MODERN WARFARE

Meh, it's just more CoD. Killstreak rewards will never not be a retarded feature. Could be a lot better without those. It incentivizes people to camp until they get their nth kill that they've been waiting for.

>NOOOO THIS ISNT CALL OF DUTY ANYMORE!!!!!!! FUCK FUTURISTIC SHIT AND JETPACKS AND KATANAS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you implying those are the same people who say that CoD is the same shit every year? Those people kept saying sci-fi CoD is the same as WW2 CoD and they were right.

The map with the cave is the worst map I've ever seen in a call of duty game. I'll start having more fun once I can use care packages.

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Only consoleshits complained about wall-running and the such, they already rely heavily on aim assist so any additional forms of movement is too much for them to handle.

>get forced to play with consoleshits

I've noticed that my team's chance to win is inversely proportional to the amount of consolefags on it.

No
Get out
And kill of whoever pays you for "home" shillposting

No it's shit, i shouldn't have trusted Yea Forums on trying it out

Headquarters is a fun mode. Ground War is trash

super low TTK is pretty trash
shitty sound design

i'll torrent the game tho ;)

The game itself plays great but the maps and mechanics they've added just massively encourage campers who where already a big problem in COD games
ALSO: the door sounds are way too fucking loud and FUCK that retarded cave map

It's alright. Some technical issues but it's the most fun CoD I've played in many years. Not going to buy it though.

it's shit. Only the 2vs2 is fun.
I hope the solo is good at least

Does WaW have any kind of a playerbase left? Been getting an itch to play it recently.

i filter pcccks. if not i join a game i play like shit when i notice their on pc pc sucks

Are counter UAVs bugged?

Why is the directional audio and loudness mixing so completely fucked up in this game? Footsteps often drown out gunshots, other times they're too quiet to hear at all, your own footsteps sound like they're behind you, it's just a complete mess. I can appreciate CSGO's fantastic directional audio so much more after I'm reminded that it's not the norm.

It not Call of Duty. Its Battlefield without destructible enviroments and ultra large maps. this is either a good or bad thing depending on the kind of person you are.

You don't play any worse than you usually do, you're just paired against people with a much better input device.

feels the same as always. will there be a hardcore mode with only 1 death per round? thats the old mode i loved most back in mw1 and mw2.

cyber attack

>but the maps and mechanics they've added just massively encourage campers

can you extrapolate for someone who dropped the series after Blops 2?

>It not Call of Duty

The shooting, movement, kill streaks, maps, etc. are still very much CoD. Just because it has Ground War now doesn't make it Battlefield.

yawn im gonna go listen to some anthony fantano after this maybe the joe budden podcast. i see jay richards just uploaded the new magic wand instrumental. guess ill go thumbs it down just for shits and giggles. cant decide what i want to eat today maybe a shrimp omelette. or use that 50$ taco bell giftcard my mother got me. decisions decisions

It's aiiight. They hide your deaths in team deathmatch though. That is sòy as fuck.
>listening to sub 1 kd redditors

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nah it's just COD with a BF gamemode

it's not bad, but it's not good either

little to no reason to ever touch it, there's just no fun to be had in these games

It's alright, 7/10. Kinda generic. I consider it a sleeper reboot of the sub-series. They're just pushing it to get ready to revup sales for the inevitable nu-MW2 and nu-MW3.

>having anything less than a 3kd

Not that guy, but killstreak rewards in and of themselves are enough encouragement for campers. Why be skillful at the game when you can find a nice comfy camping spot, farm a few kills and call in an airstrike, and repeat until you get more killstreak rewards? Also the maps are pretty packed with camping spots. It's basically impossible to clear all the angles where you could be being watched from so the players that aren't camping are running, jumping and dolphin diving around like a bunch of retards. So basically, it's CoD.

good. all games need to discourage KDA players as much as possible. get on the damn point. get in the damn meatgrinder you asshole

I drop cod after mw2, and this one looks like a great game, especially for the campaign + special assignements

Ttk is ridiculous. Even worse in ground war. As soon as someone see's you, you're dead. Which in 32vs32 is virtually constant.

That's why other fps are good, because you have a chance to fight back & use skill.

>inb4 'get good'

I didn't play the the beta because I'm alpha.

I mean so long as they got rid of Harrier>chopper Gunner>Nuke I dont see the problem with Killstreaks. I've only ever had a problem with those 3 in particular.

ok

It's literally BF without the constituency of Medic and Support classes. Makes about as much sense as CoD gameplay anyway.

Unironically get good though. It's more forgiving than, say, CSGO. In fact, this game is really easy after getting used to a more serious shooter like CS. A small ttk encourages more careful play.

I think the maps are the problem

No, I'm saying IW listened to these people which is why they removed the minimap last week. I have a 2 k/d though, getting rusty.
They only hide it in tdm. You can see your deaths in domination.

>come to these threads
>post about how bad it is
>continue playing it

What's wrong with me?

There's no reason to get good. As far as I can make out it's a twitch shooter.

>rush area
>scan surroundings to see if there's an enemies there
>if there are, shoot them
>if not, repeat

brainlet gameplay desu

>remove minimap
>meanwhile every game ive joined has the minimap

You can still be good and bad at twitch shooters, my guy.

Do you escape Yea Forums to play MW, or vice versa???

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I think it only shows up if your team has a UAV up. But that's 95% of the time.

>start game
>map is up

this

Why would I do that? There's a reason it's never been a successful esport like CS. It's for consolefags who want to sit on their couches and run and gun.

I'm talking about the first time the beta was up, dummy.

The worst shit is this battlefield tier recoil, cant control it since its random. The killstreak exclusion is shit, i want my uav and counteruav. Shotguns are beyond shit, 2 hits to kill? Are you fucking kidding me?. Dont like the no feedback from claymore. Dont know if its dead or did it hit something. Everything else is fine. I like the maps, the guns and the mobile barrier from R6S.

game's good
gun runner is a shit map
M4 and MP5 are super overpowered

I escape MW to post here. This game is like crack. I know it's bad but I go back to it regardless. And I endure a lot of frustration just to get that small high in each game when everything works well and I chain together some satisfying kills.

>implying you play CS professionally

I keep seeing people mention rng recoil in this one, can anyone post an example of this? If it's CS tier, I ain't playing this shit.

Dude, there's still hardly any recoil at all. I find myself using fully automatic rifles as laser guns and it just works.

>muh esport
Not him but lmao you are pathetic

cs has predetermined recoil patterns. people complaining about rng recoil are cs players.

CS doesn't have rng recoil though. Quite the opposite. I keep seeing people call CS's recoil rng but that just shows you're an absolute scrub.

Propaganda trash to get more US kids to die for Israel. Multiplayer might be good.

yeah, it's CoD
looool

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Because of controllers. Controllers cannot sustain aim on a fast moving target so your options are:
Slow as fuck movement: Halo
Fast TTK: Call of Duty

No

>I keep seeing people call CS's recoil rng but that just shows you're an absolute scrub.
If you think CSGO doesn't have RNG you are silver at best. You don't even understand the fundamentals

Nice examples, guys, you really showed me what the recoil in this game looks like.

I actually like it. But was it always that easy to hit heads in cod? I swear 90% of my kills are headshots. Last cod I played seriously was cod:uo.

Good stuff:
Fast
Pretty nice graphics
Gun sounds are good
General game feel is great, getting kills and playing well is satisfying as always in COD

Bad stuff:
Cave map (enemy visibility is pretty bad on most of the maps but that one is especially bad)
MP5 is absolutely fucking ridiculous
Spawns are straight awful, some games they flip every 20 seconds others they dont at all and you can just spawn camp like it's nothing
Doors too fucking loud
IMO health regenerates too slow, can't re-engage for a solid 7-8 seconds after getting shot
TTK is probably slightly too low

overall it's fun but it's flawed

Yeah, I'm playing the beta, will probably buy if it goes on sale, what's your loadout?
>any sniper rifle
>any shoutgun
>that perk that lets you get 2 primaries
>restock
>dual lethals
>semtex
>stun grenade

Having a lot of fun with the beta. More fun than titanfall 2, less fun than bf4 and equally as fun as bf1 which are the military shooters I have. So I will certainly buy it

Dunno.
Don't intend to ever play it.

>cia propaganda
If they want users to consume this crap, at least they should pay users for exposing their brains to this stream of shit and not demand money from the for opportunity of being indoctrinated by perverse goverment

its regular cod recoil. its a free fucking beta, go play it you lazy faggot

Reminder that Snipefags do NOTHING to contribute to their team.

I think the random recoil eliminates this bullshit advantage that people who play a lot naturally have. There's still a skill gap between a newbie and veteran but it mostly comes down to map knowledge and knowledge of the certain mechanics.
You just don't get better because you get used to the recoil patters because you no-lifed the game for 1000 hours.

Learn to read, retard. The recoil isn't RNG based. There's a tiny amount of spread that's RNG based, but that has nothing to do with recoil. You get spread even on non-automatic weapons.

>being an experienced player is a bullshit advantage
holy shit nu-Yea Forums has to go

I tried the beta and I'd give it a 8/10. No problems with campers once you get used to the maps and character movement. Too many people (especially on Reddit and Youtube) are complaining about how hard it is because of SBMM and "campers" but I haven't had a problem with either.

Isn't the console beta over? I ain't installing a 42GB beta on my PC.

then fuck off

Not enough virtue signaling or POC. So no Yea Forums hates it

>pick spawn on one side of a building
>it spawns me on the other side of the building in a room with two enemies
epic, im starting to see why so many people grab a sniper and sit two miles from the fighting

Decide for yourself, don't ask for your own opinion.

i feel like camping is the best strategy.

Meh, could be fun. Definitely not worth 60 bucks though.

>3 K/D in battlefield games
>barely above 1 K/D in CoD
maybe it's because the last CoD game I played was MW2

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It is. I used to run and gun and got moderate success, now I know a good camping spot on every map and I keep dominating every game. The toughest part is retaking the best camping spot if the enemy takes it. In fact, I've noticed that the main hotspots of fighting on the map happen around the very best camping spots.

The recoil is RNG based you fucking retard. There's even a cvar to turn it off lmao.
Hold onto that L retard.

The only good thing about this is that it might, and its a weak might, force DICE to clean up its act.

>people are finally waking up and realizing running and gunning is for 1 IQ chimps who don't play for the objective
>people finally start camping and slowly sneaking through maps, giving tactical thought to their gameplay for once

I fucking doubt this will ever happen but if it does with this game, it's easily the best one in the series.

>playing objective gamemodes
>not playing FFA/TDM in every COD where killing IS the objective
S&D, Domination, Ground war, all that garbage is for retards.

Waiting on singleplayer before I make a decision.

Again, no. Repeating your retarded misinformation doesn't make it any more true, you mongoloid. Let me repeat my advice: learn to read. The recoil is not RNG based in CSGO. It's that simple. You just don't know what spread is and are confusing spread with recoil. Kill yourself.

>enemies are easier to kill while there's an objective
you're that goober that farms kills during Domination

How do we feel about Ground War? I find that it's pretty fucking cluttered, but fun.

If you move slow enough, do you avoid getting pinged on other people's scans? I feel like its impossible to flank because every roof shitter will just spin 180 degrees and pop me before turning back around and looking at the front line.

S&D is my favorite mode in CoD though

You can't avoid being pinged if there's a UAC up. There's a perk that hides you from the UAC though.

the instant respawn on squad mates is what makes it fun for me. If they nerf that or put a cooldown then I wont be playing it that much.

it's boring even when I play it with 4 or 5 friends, I'm probably too old for CoD now
and ground war is a fucking garbage battlefield ripoff without all the elements that (used to) make battlefield fun

>we

Sure, even works flawless with keyboard and mouse on playstation

Discount battlefield with terrible spawns

Are Captain Price and Gaz's voice actors returning? I know Gaz probably isn't in the campaign but his VO for MP is kino.

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I was actually referring to TDM in that post since I actually was meaning the objective to kill. Running and gunning just feeds kills to the enemy team and gives away everyone elses position, since if they see one retard sprint from that area, they all know the rest of the team is also in that area. Staying hidden and poking out to shoot faggots in the head is the true way to play FPS, both IRL and in games.

Not sure about the pinging, but it definitely makes it harder to hear slower moving players. Also, another benefit of moving slowly is being able to visually check and process all areas where an enemy might shoot you from. It keeps you alert and you can better tell if someone in that window is popping his head up to shoot at you.

Price's VA isn't returning, new VA is Barry Sloane

>Gaz's VA
Pretty sure IW has him on speed dial.
>Price's VA
No, he retired.

BASED. Every MW tread gets the most replies on this board. COD is back and COD is king once again!

>Why is the time to kill so fucking fast in Call of Duty?
it isn't, you just have shit reaction times

Is there a way to make this game not look so fucking blurry? It feels like everything is behind a fog.

You're wrong. I'm right. I have a cvar as evidence and you don't. There's two.
One for fixed spray patterns and one for spread.
You are 100% wrong and are at most silver.

yeah I hate that too but it's probably because I'm playing on a shitstation 4

>Resident Evil 2 remake
>Ion Fury
>DMCV
>CoD MW
>WoW classic
>Warcraft 3 remake
>Halo MCC on PC

This has been a good year for games, holy shit. I haven't felt this guiddy about buying games since 06-07

Spray patterns without spread are 100% predictable without a hint of randomness to them. Keep being retarded if it makes you feel good though.

it feels like volumetric fog bullshit from mhw, but I didnt find any settings that when disabled made it better.

I didn't like the beta very much, which is sad because I was looking forward to the game.

Flash niggers need to kill themselves

How do you ping on console, I didn't even know you could

IDK man, this game looks great but the playerbase also looks super tryhard and sweaty and fucking random and all of it just makes for a very frustrating experience my old decrepit ass might suffer a heart attack from playing this

Not that guy, but the cvar you're referring to is spread, not recoil, just like he said. The recoil itself is the same every single time. The only randomness introduced is from the spread, NOT the recoil. You are wrong, he is right. Sorry, kiddo.

boo hoo, cry some more faggot

stuns are even worse

This shit is so basic compared to battlefield 4. Run, gun, die, repeat. There's no strategy whatsoever.

Guys my last COD i played was Ghost and desu this looks just like Ghost 2.0 is my observation right?

Haven't played CoD in a decade, I remember SMGs and shotguns decimating everybody, tried them out and people with their faggy rifles keep fucking me up in short range still.

Don't get this game really.

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So what's the greifing potential in this one? Can I piss off my team by corner trapping people and shit?

>Gun sounds are good
they have zero weight to them, they sound too similar

reddit tier humor

I don't know what's wrong with shotguns. Sometimes they work as you'd expect at a few meters away. Other times 2 shots to the fucking chest from a meter way don't kill the guy.

the strategy is to aim well and to know the maps

And carry around 2 claymores so you can put them at commonly used doorways. I love this shit so much

based

because movement is so slow
therefore aiming is easy and dodging is impossible
therefore high health would result in two players just holding the triggers on each other until the one with the higher dps gun wins
therefore all players would only use the highest dps gun
therefore game would become totally stagnant and completely unfun
therefore game is shit and dies

It all stems from the slow movement you get when you care about realism

Demonstrably false.Fire at a wall twice then slit your own throat for posting something so retarded.

Why the fuck Alliance is such chads while coalition consist entirely of niggers and one ugly brit woman? I guess Alliance are the real good guys

Jesus Christ, you're retarded. IT'S CALLED SPREAD YOU GOD DAMN NIGGER RETARD. When spraying at a wall, recoil and spread are combined. SPREAD IS RANDOM, RECOIL IS NOT. Holy fucking christ you have the IQ of a fucking rock. Kill yourself.

I do, except for Ground War.
Can you even really call it that with people zooming around in helicopters?

who /oden/ here

>be you
>on a killstreak
>1 more before you get your super duper highkillstreak
>you come across a sight line with two directions
>50-50 chance of dying
>look one way
>die from the other direction
>ragequit
Sums up my COD experience over the years

Wrong. There are two seperate commands. I am 100% right.
sv_cheats "1";
weapon_accuracy_nospread "1";
weapon_debug_spread_gap "1";
weapon_recoil_cooldown "0";
weapon_recoil_decay1_exp "99999";
weapon_recoil_decay2_exp "99999";
weapon_recoil_decay2_lin "99999";
weapon_recoil_scale "0";
weapon_recoil_suppression_shots "500";

You're too emotional. You lost the argument. I have facts, you have feeling.
See:

Are you just baiting at this point? Or are you unironically unable to read/retarded? It's hard to tell sometimes. Spread and recoil are not the same thing, user. You're not helping your case here.

Liked :
>Feedbacks and gun feel is very satisfying. Just like CoD knows how to do.
>Streaks are a bit harder to get and seems generally weaker.
>Movement is pleasant and feel good

Not good at all :
>Enemy visibility is incredibly bad. The only way to distinct someone in the shadows are their tag above their heads.
>I feel like any gun beside an AR or SMG is very weak in comparison or very situational.
>Ground War would be better without vehicles
>Games modes are disappointing so far
>Spawn are meh

It's fun.
Just not 60 bucks fun.

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How can I be baiting when I'm 100% correct? Nobody here has proven me wrong. If anyone is trolling its you.

It's the same fucking shit as every other game, if you want that, you'll enjoy this but if you were saying "COD'S BEEN BAD FOR YEARS, THEY SHOULD JUST GO BACK TO MODERN WARFARE" you are gonna get the same shit you didn't like about recent entries just with the brown and bloom paint on it

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they need buffs

Yeah but the graphics suck on PC. The weapons are grainy. The game is blurry.

Go open up a server right now, disable the spread and then spray at a wall without moving your mouse. The bullets will land in the exact same spots every single time. There will be 0 deviation. You know why? Because the recoil is not random, only the spread.

I have no problem at all with visibility, I don't see what all the complaints are about

Remove soap by doing this.

seta r_dof_enable "0"
setcl r_dof_enable "0"

Add this at the end of the /Documents/Call of Duty Modern Warfare/players2/config.cfg file
Set cfg to read only.

>grenade indicators
>low time to kill
>no recoil
>jam all over screen
>regenerative health
>perks
>killstreaks
>exp and unlocks
>full screen scopes
>breathing
>no lean
>awful maps
>showing enemies on the minimap
imagine playing a dogshit console fps in 2019 lmao

Ya

Niggas just turn your screen to max brightness lmao its not that hard bro

>I'm 100% correct

except you're not. The recoil is completely deterministic in CSGO.

its aite

The regular cod modes are neat. I like the sounds in this game.

However their ground war mode is not great.

>doesn't show ping/connection bars in scoreboard
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HOW THE FUCK CAN I KNOW HOW HANDICAPPED I AM WITH YOUR ALREADY SHIT NETCODE

this is what i've been saying from the start
first shot inaccuracy and recoil = rng

>we

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Probably just the fat asses who sit 1 foot away in front of their monitors all day long and doing nothing else for years.

No, what you've been saying is that the recoil is rng, which it is not. What I've been telling you from the start is that recoil and spread are two different things, but you're too much of a nigger retard to actually read. Go back and check the posts, faggot. You were wrong. I was right. Go seethe some more now.

???
Is this a console thing? On pc if you hit tab it shows everyone's ping, you also have an option to turn it constantly on in the top left corner of your screen. I'm pretty sure they are fucking with the numbers though because every game I'm in half of the players have single digit pings and mine is way lower than average on games yet it still feels like a laggy mess.

>this is what i've been saying from the start

No it's not. This damage control is embarrassing. You should just stop posting.

no

It's decent but it really just makes me want to play Battlefield instead. Better than COD has been in a very long time though, but that's not saying much.

Unnaturally black shadows on Caves ruined this map for me. I can't see shit at the distance most of the times. I mean, I get that the cave itself should be dark. but not the buildings.

yeah I just don't have that issue at all, I can see fine

You got the terms recoil, spread and spray pattern all mixed up, boyo. How ironic that you're calling someone else a silver yet you don't know the most basic, day one terms regarding the game. Keep practicing, you'll get out of silver one day!

>tfw bad regular sniper but godly at counter sniping
>go to kill some faggots sniping
>kill one
>hear him say no fucking way

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The maps are the best thing about it. For many years now, all COD maps have been exactly the same 3 lane corridor design. Every single one without fail. It's nice that they finally fucking stopped doing that and actually got some map design talent back on the series.

I played the beta last night at a friend's house, and I enjoyed it. A couple things I wish they'd change:
>The lighting on character models feels rather sketchy, and can look pretty bad mid game.
>The maps are good, but the ability to mount on one of any of the double doors would be nice.
>The gun selection us rather limited if you're not using assault rifles or smg's. Modern Warfare 3 had a ton of selections in every category, even if they weren't all that different from one another.
>The gunsmith option is rather bare bones from a distinct lack of options. Every other Call of Duty had way more customization options for each gun, but this only has a few attachments per slot.
>Increase the time spent in between matches by 10-15 seconds, or at least dont boot players out of the customization menu when everyone has loaded back into the lobby.
>Increase the shotgun's effectiveness, and seriously decrease the recoil. There's no reason to use them with SMG's and AR's.
>Allow faster running with LMG's and cut the delay between pulling the trigger and firing. If the game is going to emphasize runnubg around the map, then having slow guns is a death sentence unless you camp.
>Cut the marksman's rifle's firing rate cap. If the game wants you to snipe with it, just use a proper sniper rifle instead.
Overall, I really enjoyed the beta and look forward to the proper release. A lot of these were just nitpicks, but given how old the COD series is, I'd expect things like this to be thought of.

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>talent

Some are good, some are absolutely terrible, especially combined with the awful spawn points.

Wait did they bring back being able to hear the enemy you killed for a split second after you kill them? I remember so many pure gold pissed off remarks from those moments.

BASED counter sniper chad
All I do now is play ground war because I get to do sniper battles

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Are you me?

I have W7, 7700k and 1080, how badly is this game going to run?

If your install has healthy legs, it'll run pretty well.

Oh look.
Another game where literally every single player is sprinting and killing each other in .00575289th of a second.
Whoopee.

Looks nice, though.

>Looks nice, though.
But it doesn't.

Also how the fuck one can use the little combat robot? It's so fucking slow and controls are shit, I feel like everyone just running away from me and I can't kill shit

HOLY SHIT ALL THESE PEOPLE WHINING THAT LITERAL FUCKING AUTOMATIC GUNFIRE KILLS TOO QUICKLY.

IT'S.
MODERN.
FUCKING.
WARFARE.

SOMEONE SPRAYS YOU WITH 5 BULLETS IN LESS THAN A SECOND? GUESS WHAT? THAT'S HOW GUNS WORK YOU FUCKING RETARDS.

HOLY SHIT.

LITERALLY GET GOOD. USE COVER YOU FUCKING FAGGOT. WHY ARE YOUR ENEMIES ABLE TO BE SO MUCH BETTER THAN YOU, IN THE SAME EXACT GAME? HMM? ANY IDEAS ON THAT ONE YOU FUCKING RETARDED PIECES OF SHIT?

So I tried that setting and got this. What the fuck. It's grainy as hell

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alrerady uninstalled
same shit, different coating

did you remember to set it to read only afterwards?

Turn off the film grain. I don't have that shit

r*ddit hates it

>32 v 32 game mode
>Can't queue up with more than a party of 4

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>The gunsmith option is rather bare bones from a distinct lack of options

Keep leveling your guns, it actually unlocks more slots and attachments than it shows right away. I thought the same, but figured it was just because it's beta anyway. But I have my M4 at level 20 or so and there are tons of options for it at that point.

This game is so fucking ugly with everything being the same color. And what the fuck is up with the textures? It looks like stretched 720p. The visual clarity is terrible, you can barely distinguish enemies from the scenario in certain spots.

I spawned underground, but was still able to see and wallbang enemies.

youtu.be/r86lfgTYdfw

Game's an overall broken mess and not much fun.

>B-b-but it's just the beta!

You keep telling yourself that, friend.

>10% gpu usage
>90 fps at ultra 3440x1440

????????????????????

>2019 and Yea Forums is contemplating liking cod
Just when I thought this board couldn't get any worse...

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Colors has alot of importance in COD games. Dark and gloomy as shit and it encourages camping. Look at COD4 and MW2, everything was vibrant and everyone rushes. BO1 and Ghost was washed out and grainy and shit and it were the campiest cods ever.

Why are you mad though? Also
>implying games are supposed to be like feal life
lol

Ground War would be great if the map was destructible like Battlefield and if the vehicles were actually good. But not even having a gun on the helicopter or a secondary gunner for the APC sucks. And being able to destroyed armored vehicles with assault rifles is just dumb, they're basically paper thin. As it is, it's just got nothing on Battlefield and makes me want to go and play that instead.

Where are you seeing this? I want to see what normies are talking about it but don't know how to navigate the site. Link something.

The spawns are fucked 100%
It has hitching issues and I have a 1080ti
It has connectivity issues

I love the sound for the a10, even if it's aimed at me I love it.

>we
come on, can't you have an opinion of your own ?

It shills, they've taken full advantage of fireden being gone.

Reddit aren't normies, you want Facebook to see what the actual retarded normies who buy COD every year think.

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Hold on, the pictures from archive were redirecting me to some onion site. Are the archives really gone? Is it true for all boards?

Not all of boards. Just Yea Forums and /vg/.

samefag salty you lost the argument
you haven't provided any cvars to support your argument and I have
its over. if you respond without a cvar you're only bumping my 100% correct rate to over 100%

Too much traffic?

This just in: Controllers are shit at FPS so games designed with them in mind are also watered down shit.
See: The difference between CoD1 and CoD2.

I like it. Having fun camping.

are pc players literally the worst people in the gaming community?

Why are people complaining about RNG recoil as if you can even notice it. The full autos are fucking laser guns it's ridiculous how accurate they are at range.

not an argument

Imagine typing all that out and only getting this pity (you)

>another copy paste cod
>but this time we prey on your nostalgia of an old cod
Only series that has had multiple editions and not one improvement throughout any of them.

>another copy paste cod
kys

>some useless sniper on a roof looking at me
>cap E from behind a rock
>get in little bird
>fly over to him and shoot him in his faggot head

The same can be said of basically all the annual sports games.

not an argument

That's what they say. I don't believe it though since 4plebs has no trouble hosting both /pol/ and Yea Forums.

it's a console thing

and you'd have to have a sub 80 iq to buy either.

>posts an anime image
I seriously wish anime didn't exist.

>literal Battlefield mode
I'm surprised. I hope they'll bring some old maps.

>consumes same anime gamer shit for the thousandth time
I don't even like CoD but at least it's not as freakish as liking anime

Where exactly do you think you are

bruh what
Shotguns are freaking great

Doe 20 bucks a pack maybe. But I can't see any old maps being big enough for Ground War

have you never played an FPS game with a mouse?

>therefore all players would only use the highest dps gun
Because that's totally not what's happening right now with everyone gravitating towards M4/Mp5 for ez death lasers

This. Only guns I really feel recoil with is the AK, FAMAS, and LMG's

Ground War is just an asset flip of last year's battle royale shit lmao

don't you have cartoons to jack off to?

It's called multitasking.

You have not played the game, if you have, its with a decade old stereo and not actual 5.1 headphones.
The mixing is fucking strange I will admit but the game sounds brilliant, best it ever has in any entry, honestly good shit.
>Precision Strike ready
>BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT

Absolutely RETARDED animeposter.

Oh I'm sorry. Different guns guys(and some old ones). Completely new game. $59.99+ tip please. Remember to press X to respawn after watching the laggy killcam of a missle that killed you from spawn.
Why would you buy either

>AKS74U
>with AKM magazine

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Yeah that's what I've been playing. Don't even need to sit far away, I've been counter sniping faggots who sit across point C with shields and snipers.
It's back and it's still gold
>rush into a room
>kill the guy in it
>i just fucking spAHHHHHHHHHWNED
>kill his teammate with a claymore
also I've been just throwing claymores down everywhere and I don't even need to see when I get a kill because I'll hear them.

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>set resolution scale to 100 and disable depth of field in config
>still looks like a blurry fucking mess

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Your cvars proved my point though. The recoil isn't random, the spread is. It's hilarious that you still don't realize the difference between the two. What an incredible brainlet. Absolutely amazing

I sure hope there are more maps than just the one in the beta since that one is such a one-sided steamroll every match. The side that starts by A wins every time.

It's so fucking weird. It's so off

>AK is an inaccurate piece of shit
>M4 is an amazing laser beam
Truly the most realistic COD to date.

What the fuck is up with performance on PC?
I used to get a solid 130-140fps but now GPU usage drops to 50-60% and I barely get 80-100fps at times. What the fuck?

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Can anyone tell me how to play in the night vision maps? I've played it before. For some reason it's disabled?

Also can you hear console players in voice chat?

ur a dubm faggot nigger kys suck my penis cock u dumb fuck nigger

>actual 5.1 headphones.
I don't think you know what 5.1 means.

The strange thing is, the AK was not inaccurate like that last weekend. I used it primarily and did great with it, but now can't hit shit. They literally nerfed the fuck out of it in between beta periods and I have no idea why. Perhaps to see how imbalanced the M4 actually is with no competition? Beats me.

How many war crimes will we be able to commit in the campaign?

I think it was part of the special playlist only
then it turned into "ground war"

>tfw people are gonna eat this shit up like the drooling retards they are
It's literally the exact same game that has been remade for over a decade now. All Infinity Ward has to do is toss in some gimmicky equipment and a shiny coat of paint with each installment, and the players rush to shovel money into their pockets.

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>40GB beta
I piss on westshit devs

Night vision maps are gone, they keep cycling different modes out each day.

>NOOOOOOOOOOOO SOMEONE ELSE IS PLAYING SOMETHING I DONT LIKE NOOOOOOOOOOO THIS CANT BE HAPPENING NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IM A FAGGOT I SUCK DICKS
kys nigger

It's a rotating playlist. Gun game 2v2 w/e replaced it.

Does anyone else have seirious FPS issues?
My PC is exactly as the recommended specs yet the fps is constantly fluctuates between 40 and 70 in minimum.

Maybe it's because I don't have an SSD or W10?

>Not having an SSD
>not having WINDOWS 10

You deserve it.

probably the latter

>It's okay for us to fill our mouths with shit if we enjoy it! Stop being so judgmental!

>caring about KDA

Deserve what?
Playing any other FPSs at max settings with locked 60 FPS?

Why does the OS version matter?

COD is really desperate at this point. Despite them pandering hard to WWII nostalgia a few years ago and doing the whole battle royale gimmick last year, these games are still on a steady decline in sales each year. Now they're going all out to pander to Modern Warfare 1 and 2 fans in what I imagine must be their ultimate last ditch effort and I still don't think we'll be seeing a huge turnaround for sales. They want their old sales numbers back and they aren't going to succeed. These games still sell well, but not cultural phenomenon well like they used to. It's a dying series, albeit slowly, but definitely dying and nothing can change that.

There has been a steady decrease in overall sales for the last 3 CoD titles and a massive drop in player retention do you fucking SERIOUSLY think this blatant nostalgia pandering isn't just to bring the crowds back in? If it was the exact fucking same there would be significantly less hype you turbo nigger just fucking leave cunt

I'm glad Fortnite happened. Because atleast it made CoD look like a shit proposition in comparison. One is free and updated weekly with new shit, and the other is a $60 yearly rehash. Fuck Activision.

What's the point of precision rifles? They're inferior to ARs at mid-range fights and obviously snipers will shit on them further out.

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>It's literally the exact same game that has been remade for over a decade now.
Well I haven't played this game for over a decade now, so it feels fresh to me.

>admits the game is one big attention grab for nostalgia
>"how could you possibly think this game is exactly the same as the last one!?"

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Unfortunately Fortnite caused the cancerous Epic store too though, so the damage they helped do to COD and the like is outweighed by the damage they've done to PC gaming. Somehow Activision and COD are the lesser evil to me at this point.

>Reddit aren't normies
>imfuckingplying

Reddit is literally the facebook of forums. A bunch of corporate bootlicking retards getting fed propaganda and trying to flex on each other on absolutely everything. It's as normie as it fucking gets.

Hardcore mode. Put a silencer on it, use iron sights or acog scope and you one tap people from anywhere. It's truly the greatest feeling.

Equipping quickdraw on the lever action and one shotting people.

Is voice chat cross platform too?

It legit feels like this game is running at 720p or something like that. It's so fucking UGLY. I also noticed that it barely uses my GPU at all. It never goes beyond 20% and I have a 1080ti.

Kda is the only reason I play. The satisfaction of not being a camping faggot and gettign a 2.5+KD from running and gunning is an amazing feeling.

Ok, I fixed it. Deleted the CFG and let the game create a new one. Performance levels are the same as before.

They haven't even damaged pc gaming that much man, you give these chinks too much credit.

Why does my character need fucking glasses even with film grain and blur turned off? This DoF is fucked.

Yes, but who the fuck who is actually playing crossplay? I disabled that shit after one match because of how blatantly easy it is for PC players to ruin the game for everyone else and because the netcode clearly suffers trying to play across different networks.

If you unironically play any cowadoody you are a hopeless retarded faggot and deserve to be curbstomped and raped by a Syrian.

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They took one of my most anticipated games ever, Mechwarrior 5, from me man. I fucking hate them.

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COPE retard.

D R O P P E D

Oof, my condolences.

the modern warfare subreddit /r/modernwarfare

Why are you excited for a PGI product?

>Yea Forums complains when games have low ttk
>yet Yea Forums also loves rising storm 2 vietnam
I suspect people just use low ttk as an excuse to complain about cod because it's popular.

>the IW Defense Force stationed in this thread
The shills are easily singled out via their excessive use of edgy ""Yea Forums"" vernacular. Maybe if Call of Duty had innovated on the genre, instead of spending years of development time slapping other shooters across its label, they wouldn't have to rely on such a blatant pandering scheme.

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As a bf fan it's pretty fun

>do we like it?
Only the Grounds War, rest of the game sucks.

Huge difference, Rising Storm 2 and other shooters like it are fun and appropriately paced for the realistic damage model. COD is just mindless sprinting and dying or camping in a corner and killing the mindless sprinters. You obviously have never played any PC fps line Rising Storm.

based redditor

NOOOOOOOOOO!!! STOP TALKING OF ANOTHER GAME THAN SMASH, DEATH STRANDING OR FF7R!!!!!!!! FUCK SHILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOOO!! STOOOOOOPPPP!!!! IF YOU TALK OF ANOTHER GAME YOU ARE A SHILLL!!!! SHIIIIIILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHIIIIIILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SHIIIIIILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SHIIIIIILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SHIIIIIILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!

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>NOOOOOO I WANT TO SAY WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO NOOOOOO STOP DOING STUFF I DONT LIKE NOOOOOOOO I SUCK DICKS IM A FAGGOT NIGGER
yes it is ok
if people want to fill their mouths with cum shit and vomit its none of your business retard

>if people want to fill their mouths with cum shit and vomit its none of your business retard

Care to give us some examples?

who the fuck is we?

play it for more than an hour and you'll realize it's shit
kill yourself anime incel

The presentation and especially audio is substantially improved over past iterations and the basic input feels good but barring simple ballistics simulation the core mechanics have still not developed at all from CoD4.

This is especially apparent when playing with a mouse, you can feel how little reticule deviation and aim-punch there actually is while firing and it's clear that all they've done is is add a lot of really exaggerated cosmetic recoil animations so the shooting looks more difficult and impactful in videos, it's still the same old spammy laser-gun shit though.

In any case, it won't be pulling me away from Insurgency.

based

Its none of our business until they decide to talk about it then they get to be mocked.

>tfw no well made shooter where semi auto assault rifles with ACOG scopes are the name of the game
no squad and insurgency are not well made

Already played it for about two days.

>In Quake
Lmao. Most people rush 1 gib weapons shut the fuck up

It's not rng-BASED, it's still has rng but for the most part it follows a predictable pattern that it will follow.

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RS2 has recoil, free aim, leaning , bracing and muzzle-based ballistics, it actually takes a bit of skill to use your weapons.

I hated it yesterday, but playing it today its actually pretty fun. The snipers are horrible and need a buff and the maps seem to cluttered and close other than that pretty fun pilled

I feel the complete opposite about all your grievances

Use the first shotgun. I destroy people with it.

Need to remember to matter what happens, if you dont see them first, they will kill you in this game regardless of gun.

also suitable map design for a low ttk game

call me when they reintroduced hardcore mode in the beta.

Hardcore mode is for shitters

Hello Guys, I'm From Russia and SONY automatically refund this game to me cause new COD is banned in Russia.

>game looks amazing
>plays like shit
its cod ghosts all over again
FUCK

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nah the slower pace is the only way to play cod. I can't stomach the zoomer run around 360 noscope playstyle.

I'm 110% correct. You have no counter-argument.
>It's not rng-BASED, it's still has rng
>not RNG, its still RNG
the absolute state of your brain lmao

Why does he look like a WWII German sailor?

I've done no research. Is this a true to the original remake of CoD4? Is it just a sequel without a number, or something different? Can modern CoDs run on a PC that isn't all that modern?

>company spits out new edition of game almost every year
>expect it to be good for some reason
So you hate videogames?

>hardcore
>slower pace
The even lower TTK is for shitters who cannot sustain aim on targets that already die in less than 100ms.

It's basically a reboot of the first Modern Warfare. Some of the same characters, totally different story apparently. And no, this game is a mess on PC so if you have an older one it probably won't run at all. COD PC ports are notoriously bad and unoptimized

>hardcore
>slower pace

One hit kills in COD is the most casual fucking thing ever. You legitimately have to be bad at the game if you struggle with regular enough that you think hardcore is better.

mad/10

Its called team DEATHmatch you idiot

It's an updated "re-imagining" of the general premise of MW. There's a few shared characters, but new story and everything. It's basically a reintroduction of the subseries.

Why haven't they shown any of the campaign? I want to see if it's actually Warcrime Simulator: 2019 like the achievement list hints at.

It's revealed at the end of the match though.

GTX 1070 8GB, i5-6600k and I run stable 144FPS @ 1980x1080 with low/medium settings.

>have a i5 6400 with a rx 580 8 gb
>still get 60 fps while the game looks great
what are these optimization issues people are talking about?

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The graphics on console are embarrassing

>low/medium settings
>on a 1070

Yikes

Yeah but it's still hidden during the match.

Ever shoot guns in real life?

Thanks guys, doubt I would bother with the story. Gameplay wise is what I meant really. Is that unchanged or like more recent games? I didn't like MW2 so my interest int he series dropped off after that as I don't like Sci-Fi as a setting either.

I've only recently upgraded from 4GB RAM. I heard before they had an artifical lock that wouldn't let you run the game without 8GB. As it is, I have this setup right now.

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Honestly I don't know. I'm running it over 60fps just fine. These guys must have some shit prebuilts or got memed into a shit configuration.

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>launch missile
>people indoors survive
>be indoors
>get killed by missile

Literally every time. I've yet to be saved by being inside. This shit is so ridiculously fucking broken

It's okay.
They need to fix the stuttering when spawning, and for fucks sake they need to get rid of whatever makes the game so blurry, it looks as if I activated FXAA x64

Basically plays like every COD from the last decade

>144hz vs graphics
???

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Anyone else unable to get into a game? We've been sitting in the lobby for 10 minutes now.

>needing anything over 60

Full retard

The game runs so fucking well. Ubisoft should take notes.

Any cod Bros know if they're keeping blackout or is that staying to the treyarch games?

>eyes cant see over 60
based retard

They can't see over 48 actually, but 48 looks bad

do people really believe this?

I've yet to have a play session without the game crashing. This game will be shit

Best CoD in years.

>Finally get a game where shotguns animate in a satisfying but realistic way
>It's for a fucking CoD game

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Rumours of BR mode but I doubt it'll be called Blackout.

Not sure we'll ever actually see that mode again. I don't think it was anywhere near the kind of success they hoped it would be.

You mean you're complaining that you can't get bullshit kills after someone gets the drop on you?

Bf4 has overpowered shotguns.

*dabs*
you lost the argument

Fuck, so far it's been the only BR game i could stomach.

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Imagine buying a new game lmao. You're paying activision to lose access to content you already bought ahaha. Meanwhile, TF2 has access to all content ever been created.

retards do

>Doors too fucking loud
Honestly, I like this. It makes objective defense a lot more interesting and increases the choices you make over the course of the game. Do I want to open the door and toss a flashbang or sprint through guns blazing? I could open the doors and bait an opponent or grab their attention but actually be flanking them. It's good stuff. People who want to play stealth are also presented with a challenge if you adequately prepare for a Sam Fisher type.

Yeah but they don't animate very realistically. Same with pistols.

The advantage is still theirs, how is getting a kill through skill bullshit? That said, I'm not that guy and I'm not complaining about the ttk. I've managed to kill a few guys that got the drop on me, it's far from impossible

The sound mixing is all over the place though. Gunshots seem a lot more distant than they are. A door opening will be louder than gunshots at the same exact distance. I think I'd have an easier time locating enemies with the sound muted because as it is it just manages to throw me off. I'm way too used to infinitely better directional audio

i was thinking in buying it, then i realized that there is no steam version and is exclusive to battle net

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>tfw only got into one match this weekend
>and a tryhard 2v2 match at that
Why the fuck couldn't it let me try anything normal, it just kept searching in the other playlists.

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Is there gonna be new stuff today?

I was thinking of buying it before I spent enough time with the beta

Yes, no HUD actually slows down the pace of the game. You have to rely on your senses instead of just looking at the minimap/compass

The TTK is so ridiculously low it punishes any attempt at playmaking. Instead you hold position until you have enough info to peek-fire or until someone runs past you. Not very high skill cap. Whatever that duos mode is cool though.

>aim at guys head
>doesn't kill him
>aim at his torso
>get a headshot kill
>playing having fun
>suddenly I get blown up by a killstreak missile
>respawn
>get immediately killed by a VTOL
>respawn
>barely cock the gun animations before killed by the VTOL
>respawn in front of an enemy who shoots me

fun game lads

>no arab faction
i dont get it
is it problematic in mutliplayer?

It doesn't slow anything down you LARPing retard. People play the exact same. There's nothing "hardcore" about hardcore mode. It makes a casual babbies first FPS even more devoid of skill.

>unironically considering even for a slight second buying the latest COD rehash

And there goes half your Yea Forums cred

if you're in a party can you not hear other people in game chat?

>And there goes half your Yea Forums cred

Oh no, what am I to do now

my game is a bit blurry, what is causing it?

Killstreaks are so fucking retarded

ure fucked

>hhgurhgh please tell me what to think i NEED validation from strangers :'(

the bottom 2 smaa options blur the absolute fuck out of everything

>therefore game would become totally stagnant and completely unfun
Yeah because past CoD games were totally varied and all about player choice and expression. Totally wasn't that every gun killed you in 5 shots

So is it a remaster or remake or basically mw0

Not that guy, but where did he say it was different in past CoD games? Are you retarded?

It's one thing if you use cover or do something skillful (even drop shotting) to get the kill, then yeah. No problem there.

If I get 3 x's on your back and you turn around and one-burst me with an OP weapon, the balance is shit and the basics are gay.

The recoil isn't rng based though. The spread is. This amount of denial and damage control is unprecedented.

Feels worse than blops 4

Well then we're talking about balance on individual weapons, not ttk in general. Whole different story.

>CoD TTK
>fast
Nigga this game is casual as fuck. Players have massive health pools.

What game are you playing LOL

>still refuses to aknowledge difference between spread, recoil and spray pattern

These are 3 different things. School yourself.

You're retarded. It has regenerating health, but that doesn't mean the health pool is big. Players die in a blink. There are very few FPS games I can think of where the ttk is shorter.

It's fucking awful.

>The recoil isn't RNG based.
>Except the recoil is RNG based
I'm currently 120% right and nobody has proven me wrong.

>WE
>DO WE
fuck off hivemind faggot and go back to your safe space reddit or whatever you trolling scumbag
I like it, fuck what "WE" think tho. I do things I enjoy, not what some hivemind brand loyalty says

>maybe if I quote him as saying something he never said, I can convince myself I'm right

How is that working out for you? Meanwhile, what I actually said is 1. the recoil is not RNG based, 2. the spread is RNG based, 3. the spread and recoil are not the same thing. You must have a literal sub 60IQ if this can't get through your thick skull. Not even joking. You are clinically retarded.

The recoil isn't rng based. The spray pattern (what you're mad at) is.

Sit down .

get a load of this brainlet

it's none of those. it's a new game, with a modern setting, that in not story-connected to the original trilogy. why is this so hard for brainlets to grasp?

Feel free to watch this video, faggot. It'll prove you wrong but then you'll come back saying you're 130% right because your denial is clearly unable to handle the truth.

youtube.com/watch?v=octRQYnnuig

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it's just free xp unless you're some kind of noob with a pistol

Are you actually implying they're the same thing? Fucking lmao, is this bizarro Yea Forums? What's with all the literal retards today

the discussion started because of
I'm 150% right, nobody has posted cvars proving me wrong whereas I have.
Hold onto that L and stay mad

netcode seems pretty wank

Imagine being so incredibly mad that you have to keep telling yourself you're more than 100% correct to feel better, despite being absolutely wrong. You'll be a silver forever my guy. Maybe you should play a less complex game than CS lol

160% correct now. you're still wrong. still mad. you lost the argument. I'm right.

I don't know wtf ttk is, are you a navy seal?

cant wait to grind gunfight desu

>posting cvars makes me right

Your cvars literally proved you wrong, faggot. You just showed that you literally, unironically, seriously do not know the difference between RECOIL and SPREAD. When you disable the spread of a weapon and leave the recoil on, you have eliminated all the randomness from the shots. Clearly then, the recoil isn't RNG based. Well, it would be clear to a non-retard. Do you even dare watch the video I posted?

These are levels of mad I didn't even know were possible

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>Your cvars literally proved you wrong, faggot.
If I say lies that makes them true
You are wrong. You lost. Hold onto that L.

>I'M CORRECT I'M CORRECT I'M CORRECT SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

lmao

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I see the shilling campaign is ramping up.

>get proven wrong
>I'm n-now even m-more right!

kek, this fucking guy

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being emotional because you lost an argument only makes me more right.
i'm currently 170% correct

spray pattern might as well be called spread pattern, it's the same thing, and recoil is what causes the spread. so yes, basicly the same thing and you're a massive dumbfuck mongoloid

180% correct.
You still haven't proven me wrong or posted cvars showing as much.
Sit down kid, you lost :)
The sting will wear out in a bit.

>keep increasing the percentage of how correct you think you are each time you get proven wrong again

Wow, dude. That's incredible.

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>people have been arguing for four (4) hours about the difference between recoil and spread in cs:go

on-topic: i just hope the single player campaign is cool as shit

>recoil is what causes the spread

No, recoil and spread are 2 different values, you retard. Recoil is always, always, ALWAYS the same. Spread is the random factor. Take out the spread and the recoil has NO RANDOMNESS to it. Holy fuck, how is this difficult to understand? It doesn't get any simpler. You're gonna have a really fucking hard time with life, dude.

fpbp

you haven't proven me wrong
you lost the argument
when i state facts and back them up and you fail to address those facts, that means i win
starting some meta argument because you lost and need to dodge only further proves me right
you need to learn when to concede, this is embarrasing for you

>autistically comforts himself about his correctness in percentages
>y-you're mad!

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>recoil is always the same
>except when you change the recoil cvar
oops, looks like it isn't the same

you haven't proven me wrong
I have.
you lost the argument
I haven't

Stay mad lmao

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i like how it looks with everything on the lowest settings compared to everything on high

>spread and recoil are the same thing

Except that's wrong you fucking retard.

youtube.com/watch?v=octRQYnnuig
youtube.com/watch?v=octRQYnnuig
youtube.com/watch?v=octRQYnnuig
youtube.com/watch?v=octRQYnnuig

>absolute garbage netcode despite being one of the move popular games on the planet and makes almost infinite money
>gun balance is horrible and it won't change because it never does, shotguns are absolute trash and sometimes don't even kill at point blank range, carbines suck shit. Anything that isn't an AR or an SMG is worthless
>runs super hot despite not looking that good, it has a retarded lighting system, and everything looks fuzzy by default
>ground war was shit
>sound design makes no sense
3/10, the only saving grace was being able to shot on console users for a few matches.

>>except when you change the recoil cvar

You mean the spread cvar?

played it for two days. not buying it.

>maps are too dark
>characters blend into walls
>can't see if teammate is friendly or not directly in front of you because friendly players don't have silouhettes, but instead have blue dots over their player model
>enemy player comes in front of you, blue dot representing friendly behind a wall, you die because you can't tell
>default M4 weapon is the best in the game
>even if you see someone directly in front of you and fire first, it takes 5-6 shots to kill them, but you always die in 1, even if they're using the same gun
>shotguns aren't good even at close range, require 2 or 3 shots. Outclassed by faster ROF weapons every time
>semi auto rifles suck ass
>m14 has accuracy problems regardless of range. point blank with sight over target results in a miss
>air killstreaks killing you through buildings
>ghost perk w/ silencer is required in order to win
>controller kiddies have aim assist out the ass, basically gimping yourself if you use M+KB

see:
your retarded
>you mongoloid.
>Let me repeat my advice: learn to read.
>Kill yourself.
lets talk about whos mad. the person who hasn't sad anything aggressive, addressing the lack of counter-arguments, or the child smashing his keyboard telling someone to kill themselves

I find it amazing that people are willing to keep posting their false information for literal hours despite the actual information being a Google search away. What causes people to act this way?

it's the same fucking game, minus a gimmick or two, for the past 12 years.

The wrong person is the mad person. Therefore, you. Recoil is not RNG based. Spread is RNG based. Recoil and spread are not the same thing.

Kill yourself lol

that's not what makes someone mad. see? you don't even know what being mad is haha
another argument you lost

Chopper gunner is in

recoil is the pushback on the gun in response to the explosion of the gunpowder, retard.

You know, what I find amazing about your autism is that you literally proved the following claims true with your cvars:
1. Recoil is not RNG based.
2. Spread is RNG based.
3. Recoil and spread are not the same thing.
And then you went on to argue that they are the same thing. I don't think I've ever encountered anyone this retarded.

Funny how the internal stats are showing all 3 platforms are about even in skill level, looks like p cucks are just up their own ass

Not in the context of the game, you mongoloid. In the game, there are two variables called recoil and spread, one of which is random, the other of which is not. Don't reply to me if you don't even know what's being discussed, you dumb fuck

>>even if you see someone directly in front of you and fire first, it takes 5-6 shots to kill them, but you always die in 1, even if they're using the same gun
This is just the shit netcode at work, if you actually pay attention to the killcam the person was shooting you as much as you thought you were shooting them. Not a defense, but it is what it is.

Source?

Why is it worse than when I play CoD4?

>explosion of the gunpowder
>in a video game

You do realize that there isn't actual gunpowder exploding in video game bullets, right? It's just a combination of sounds and visuals and some computer code, user.

Realism mode is nice

And so is nuke. Idk how to get it but game ended with one. Most likely the guy under the map camping spawn that got it.

>enemy appears for 1 millisecond
>kills me
>killcam shows them shooting at me for 2 solid seconds

Online gaming will always be shit.

>remove the HUD
WOW ITS JUST LIKE REAL LIFE NOW
>incoming cruise missile
neat now I can't even try and make an attempt to avoid some gay killstreak shit because there isn't a map

>his ass

>line up a headshot on a stationary target
>take the shot
>it doesn't even hit him
>he turns around and immediately kills me

thanks

I don't understand how the game still feels exactly the same when it has a different engine now. They are actually going out of their way to make the game never change, and yet they wonder why the series only sells a tiny fraction of what it used to.

I've given up even trying to run from them. When I hear one incoming, I know it's coming for me and even closed spaces don't provide cover, for some reason. I get killed by the missile every single time. I basically just leave my mouse and keyboard as soon as a missile is announced.

when does the beta end?

Tomorrow

>the internal stats
ok shill
kys

Tomorrow morning I think

the concept of recoil is still the same.

the cope

>Shoot a guy at point blank range with a shotgun
>He shoot me back with a smg and kills me
>Killcam shows that I didn't even made that shot
Nice

Not in CS. The recoil value gives every weapon its unique spray pattern and is absolutely deterministic, i.e. not based on rng. This is what CS calls "recoil" so discussing real-life recoil and gunpowder is useless. The randomness of where your shots will land in CS comes entirely from the spread value, which is basically a projected cone within which your bullets will land.

Get in a building you fucking idiot

Did CoD4 prioritize region locking? I really don't know what answer to give, but yeah the newer games have terrible online.

>shoot guy with shotgun from 2 meters away
>clearly hear the shot going off and see the gun recoiling and the muzzle flash
>lolnope
>die

>Standing shot with a scoped rifle

Source please.

I keep getting killed by the missile even in buildings. And I'm not talking next to a door or window, I'm deep inside a building and the thing just fucking ends me.

>no source

Sure man, we're the ones coping. lmao

>NOOOOOOO WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE BEST

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>the shill cries out in pain as he hits you

>have to make up "internal stats" in order to feel better

Awww

>controller kiddies have aim assist out the ass, basically gimping yourself if you use M+KB
WHAT THE LITERAL FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?? KB+M kicks ass, you're definitely just shit. console players are still at a big control disadvantage even with crutch aim assist, plus they have a huge visibility disadvantage. tiny ass fov and no way to turn off depth of field which creates those visibility issues you're talking about.

>different engine
You can still run against the wall to gain speed, an ancient bug from the q3 days.

Wasn't that in the first Quake? I literally just watched a video on speedrunning E1M1 where they did that.

>internal stats
>internal
>stats
>I N T E R N A L
>literally admitting to shilling

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Whenever someone says they're using a "new engine" nowadays, that just means they modified an existing one. Literally nobody is going to write a brand new engine from scratch.

Can I get the standard service AUG scope? Can I get the 5.56mm AUG conversion?

>having the game aim for you in a game with wide open spaces, terrible lighting, and no dodge potential is "disadvantaged"

No, it's trash.
>Shit maps
>Shit balance
>God awful netcode

No and No

Fuck

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you mean this? it hasn't been a standard since the mid 90s

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Not that guy, but if you're having trouble against console kiddies even with their little assists, you must be truly terrible at first person shooters.

When they announced the game earlier this year, they specifically said it's on a new and different engine from the rest of the series. I guess I shouldn't be surprised they were lying.

Honestly, it doesn't matter how good it is, it's the new CoD and it's going to be filled with microtransactions&lootboxes.
Could be the second coming of CoD4 or whatever, I'm not going to get fucked in the ass by activision for it

Epic would desu

>Ground War revolves around sitting on top of the buildings overlooking C and shooting across the bridge
>Can't reload while sprinting
>Everyone dies within 2 seconds

At least I can get under the ground and kill people, and make them all made when I nuke them LMAO

It's really nothing like the original MW. It just feels like Black Ops 4 with a "Modern Warfare" coat of paint. COD is just a cheap imitation of itself at this point.

Oh god, I'm a caveman and don't know anything about engines, should I fear 343's attempt with the Slipspace Engine?

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>little assists
>meanwhile there's at least 1 console player in most matches going 50-1 every game
>the killcam is just him whipping his aim around and snapping onto people

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Most of today's engines are based on engines that are decades old. It's sort of difficult to say what qualifies as a "new" engine. The Source and idTech are different engines, right? But they were both born as modifications of the Quake engine. So their claims aren't completely unfounded, but they probably reused a lot of tech from the previous engine, which was also based on the Quake engine.

I'm getting paid either way AHAHAHAH

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You must be terrible at this game. I played it on my friend's PS4 and now playing on PC it's like a whole different game. If you think you're disadvantaged on PC, I can't imagine how shit you'd be on a console

Those stupid motherfucking retards replaced gunfight with realism, it was literally the only saving factor about this shitty ass game.

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this is a call of duty thread, why are you talking about cs here?

>too much recoil on the ak
okay let's unlock some attachements
>ak turn into a soviet laser rifle just by putting a compensator and a grip
this game is a fucking mess

No and in the full game, respectively.

Their 64 player conquest map sucks ass, think BF3 Metro style meat grind

Based

Halo is dead and 343 are garbage, so yes but you shouldn't even buy or play whatever dogshit games they make anyway. They haven't made a single Halo game yet and they aren't about to start now. If you want to play COD, just play COD

i didn't say i was disadvantaged on pc. im just saying there are a ton of people that know exactly how to play to the strengths of these "little assists". someone thats practiced with controller enough to be average with aim assist is a fucking god with it.

and this sin't anything new with pc cod. i played a lot of bo3 and iw on pc and the absolute shit stompers were always using controllers

The Kar98k hasn't been standard since 1945, yet I can still use it