Sengoku Rance

Is this the best game in the series Broski? It certainly has the worst translation.

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>Is this the best game in the series
dunno. outside of 7 i only played a bit of 6. the gameplay wasn't as interesting.
but i'm still curious about the later games.

It is a contender for the best game in the series, but skipping every other aspect like the mediocre porn scenes etc the gameplay is pretty much unmatched, there is no real game like it from a gameplay perspective

>It certainly has the worst translation.
Oh come on. It's a good translation with some really stupid shit in it. As opposed to the old translation which was a bad translation with some stupid shit in it.
Don't misrepresent the entire thing just because some things are absolutely ridiculous.

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This. The new translation isn't all that good by any means, but lets not pretend the old one was winning awards either

NO KITSUNE OR DEMON GIRL H SCENE WHAT THE FUCKKK
HOW WERE THEY NOT PRIORITY #1

Um, sweety, isn't this a blue board? I believe we already have several boards that could accommodate your eroge thread. Here, let me show you the way:

At least the Demon girl gets one later on. No luck for the kitsune though.

Cry more fag

The FFA mode in vanilla seems really slow paced and barebones. I know there’s a mod with the Kichikou map but any for the Sengoku map?

But it's a video game? I can guide you to some non-video game boards that could accinnidate your non-video game thread.

More like why the FUCK isn't best girl Copandon in the game?

it's unironically the best PC GAME of all time

How do I prevent rance going KIA when his unit is destroyed? Sometimes rance just gets gibbed no matter how strong you make his unit

Eh, the sex isn't even that good. Everything else trashes over half of the blue board games out the

Best girl.
Post some more of the best girl

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Don't fucking die.

Omachi bros

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Dunno if this has been posted yet, but MG recently released an update for the game: twitter.com/MangaGamer/status/1175617652263284737
Hopefully someone can upload it if it's not up already.

>How do I prevent rance going KIA when his unit is destroyed?
You don't. He is killed in action 100% whenever his unit falls. Try to keep him alive and good luck!

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id like this game more if rance wasnt such a faggot about fucking lolis

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That's scripted for most of the battles, only use Rance if you are certain he won't die.

I am guessing this is mostly just typos and stuff.
Does it change anything else? Are there any actual bugs?

Broskis...

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Sengoku Rance is more of a game then 90% of the shit Yea Forums talks about daily. Besides, you still have to be 18+, even on the blue boards. So what's the problem? Just don't post sex.

Broskis any of you can post the 1.05 patch released today?

literally meant for nursing handjobs

Shit nigger what are you doing

R.I.P. Yodogimi. You were too brave for this wartorn fucked up world.

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I saw maids....

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Easily the best fucking girl to me. It's a fucking crime they forget about her in the following games

Hope that isn't your first playthrough

F

"no" ;_;

Do it. Conquer Mouri. Do it! They've got the best girls anyway.

It is, I didn't know the sect would declare war on me the turn after I declared on Mouri.

But..
I will perservere!!!

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>Next to Mouri without Natori or Kenshin
Oh no no no no

The writer of this game was a woman, woman are a lot more testy about having men fuck little girls. Does make me wonder why her protagonist rapes everyone without mercy tho

Always conquer the east before the west. Senhime and Uesugi are MANDATORY.

Respect. Ignore the naysayers, keep at it.
I believe in you.

Broskis.. Oh.. No..

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Like you've never seen a single Ro3K or Nobunagas ambition game?

Wait, so the mangagamer version has content CUT!?

Don't put him in position where he dies.
Good stats make him more useful and survivable. Use stat textbooks to get his attack, def and speed to 6, then use the elite units satisfaction bonus to further boost them all by 1.

But in all honesty samurai aren't that good as units when it comes to lategame. Confined to front row, limited firepower without god-tier stats and unit numbers. I think I stopped using Rance at around turn 45 or so, though part of it was because I could avoid the Shimazu brothers assassination scene.

Got your superior translation right here broski

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Best nation coming through, don't mind us

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If you do manage to conquer them, it's well worth it. Like it's difficult for sure but the rewards are amazing.

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There's so much shit happening/to do every turn but you have so few actions. Meanwhile, the time keeps ticking and marching on for main story events often throwing you into multiple wars.

Holy shit how do you guys play this without getting anxious constantly? How do you do all that AND keep unit cost cap high

But I use Teru and Chinu to conquer the east. Fuck Takeda and their military and political nightmare.

Nah, they never had one. Alicesoft ran out of resources I'm guessing considering you can actually lewd the foxgirl but you just get a short text.

No. It's all there. Even THAT scene.
SR just never had a scene with the kitsune girl in the first place.

4 cucks equal one chad, eh?

I certainly couldn't handle it


So I used a guide

Is it possible for Rance to make Masamune's wives a slave to his dick?

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Nigger thats really easy. Just ignore Teru

How is a mediocre character like Senhime mandatory?

Teru solo'd my frontline, try #2.

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Lol

Its not the same... they lack the RPG and narrative.

This is an untaped genre.

You can fuck them, but they will always love Masamune more than Rance

Go into it knowing you'll need to do several playthroughs. Also using the wiki after the first time helps a lot.

>broski
Didn't know that this board has turn into Reddit Nation. Is that why we have Reddit-core game like Rance being shilled here at every hour?

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Sasusa Reddit complainer-kun.

Play the game instead of crying about Reddit you fucking retard.

So I never played a rance game before, but I felt like he was just a high level retarded adventurer who only got to high level because he's lucky at the start. He's actually a turbo-chad who literally rapes enemy women into falling in love with him and beats incredibly experienced legendary warriors with comical ease.

Is rance some kind of chosen one? Or the son of some special powerful being in the previous games but it never gets mentioned in sengoku? Why is he so powerful, is it the sword?

Nice bait kid

no one wants your pedo shit in a game

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
You'll get better at it, the most important thing is not lose Owari and think your actions through. Game offers a lot of options to handle the enemy.

Holy fuck it's the same lose who posts nintendo shit in every Rance thread.

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Sounds like someone wants a taste of the blitz boys

Pro tip mini spoiler: If you get 50 satisfaction and then go for a satisfaction bonus (even if the satisfaction bonus isn't for the 50 mark) you will get an option to acquire an addition action flag each turn. One of if not simply outright the most essential power up of the entire game.

Don't you have to get masamune to die in combat to get a sex-scene with his griefing kitsune wife? Someone said that.

Go to another thread then you fucking baby.

Unit stats are more important than unit numbers, good units can handle fodder enemies with three times their size. I finished my fresh true history run couple of days ago and I mostly used the money to replenish troops. Buying can also hurt you if you are stuck with shit units since it affects enemy troop scaling.
Also remember that wiping the enemy is basically only required when taking castles from the enemy. You should aim to win with as few units as possible, though having ashigaru in every fight helps tremendously since replenishing them is four times cheaper than other units.

Rance is basically a bug in the Planner System. He has no level cap in a world where level 40 makes you one of the most powerful mortal warriors.

you can also just dismiss him but yeah, as long as he's in your roster you can't clear any of his wives

Rance lore goes deep, it's not even funny. TLDR though, the Rance world has certain rules, everyone can train their skills any way they want but they all have a "cap", meaning farmers can only be good at fighting until a certain level. Rance, however, is a freak of nature with no level cap, meaning he has infinite potential to be powerful. Also yes its also the sword.

>Is rance some kind of chosen one? Or the son of some special powerful being in the previous games but it never gets mentioned in sengoku? Why is he so powerful, is it the sword?
In before some more experienced Rance lorefag slaps me.
But unless I am mistaken Rance is like a glitch in the world. He isn't the chosen one. There are others who are indeed chosen and are legendarily powerful and all that.
Rance? Rance is a commoner who was mistakenly born without a level/potential limit.

It's less that Rance has the power to do anything, because he most certainly can't. But he has the power to very successfully throw a wrench into fate itself and jumble it all up.

He's just an anomaly.
They never explain why he turned out to have no level cap.
Probably just a bug in the system.
Also he has sword skill level 2 which is top tier.
goes from 0 - 3, 0 being normal and 3 being godly

Rance is a glitch in the hero system because he doesn't have a level cap
If he tried hard he would become the strongest being in the universe but the thing is, you have to train constatly to prevent your level from dropping, and rance is a lazy fuck so between the games his level drops back to low

I gave that stupid fucking cat that gives every unit in your army +1 troop but now I can't remove the cat or dismiss the unit. Wtf do I do? The buff is shit and helps enemy scaling more than me

In-universe Rance is strong, but rarely the strongest character around. What makes him special is the fact that he has no level cap (though he is lazy and always goes down in levels between games 'cuz he doesn't train) and he can wield a sword that can hurt fiends.

Have you tried the "Omachi wall" tactic broskis?

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I saw there's an official translation for Rance VI too. Is that worth picking up? I know the gameplay isn't the same.

>All this talk about Rance having infinite potential

Heh, so he's actually not joking when he says "I'm invincible after all" constantly

And Demon King Rance shows how terrifying that would be

His.main advantage is having no level cap so if he does get experience he can become stronger than a lot of things. Not levels are easy come easy go and Rance lacks the discipline to maintain his levels.

Chaos is sentient and chooses the weilder. He feels a kinship with Rance but it's not like he's the exclusive user. Chaos and Nikkou can breach the barrier fiends have that make them impervious to most things.

There's this theory he is the son of Gai, a Demon King from before the series. But that's most certainly a meme.

The main reason he's so strong is his lack of a level cap, so he can level up to infinity if he put effort into it. Also he has a very good skillset (Sword Combat and Adventuring, both Lv 2 or A-Rank in your typical tier list). Finally according to a diviner he has the best luck one can have in this setting without having it as a skill.

well he isn't invincible since he never grinds like crazy.
The actual Hero is invincible though.

He has no level cap, but his skills are defined. He has sword lvl 2 which is the same Kenshin has, but since he doesn't like to practice he'll never surpass her.
The world also has a chosen one, but he spends his time doing sidequests while Rance cucks him out of his fate essentially.

It's ok. If you don't mind the classic feel they're alright. Sengoku and the games after it are unironically really good, so definatly buy those when they come out

>Is that worth picking up?
I fucking love Rance VI.
You're right it's not the same game though. VI is a dungeon crawler RPG. It's an excellent dungeon crawler though and a good representation of the genre and it's also a very good game as far as the Rance world is concerned.

Do give it a go if you like dungeon crawlers, or simply like Rance. One or the other. Would probably only not recommend it if you've got a distaste for both.

If you're really really bored or just want more Rance shenanigans. It's a really garbage game otherwise.

You can be too invincible though

Isn't the hero only invincible if he's the only human alive? Otherwise when he dies it just goes to someone else.

>Even daring to challenge Mouri before you've even recruited Natori, Kenshin and Senhime
Nigger what the fuck are you even doing?

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>It's a really garbage game otherwise.
Fuck you!

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Kind of weird that an unrepentantly evil person like rance is blessed with : A big cock, sword/survival talent, max luck, infinite power potential.

It suprises me Rance has been the protagonist of so many rpg's now despite being an extremely evil and cruel person

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How does Rance feel about children? I know he kills a bunch of them after they rape a certain character in Sengoku

So if you have a spare character when in a dungeon and you have them retreat, you can shuffle the characters back and forth indefinitely?
But if your deployed characters are your last characters, retreat just sends them back and you're tough out of luck? That's slightly annoying. I'll have to count characters whenever they're done for.

I'm a fucking genius.

Muri niggers can't counterattact if I give my land up to the Tenshi sect.

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Do these raccoon youkai's count as characters with character clears? I'm trying to gather as many points as I can in this first run

He is kinder towards children than most adults.

No, the Hero just gets stronger the more the Protagonist Race is decimated. The Hero cannot be killed.... that said they are not invincible. They can be wounded, maimed, tortured, digested, gored, etc but won't die ever.
However, the tenure of a Hero only lasts 7 years, from age 13 to 20. After that they have none of their Hero abilities and the title passes to someone else.

The hero will never die so long as he's the hero, no matter what.

He's very selfish, but because he's selfish he can be used as a force for good.

Bit mixed signals, but I'll consider it then. Thanks!

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Fucking brilliant

Is there any good tips you guys have to increase national cost without wasting tons of turns increasing it?

Asakura bonus

You can shuffle indefinitely but they'll only shuffle to characters with moves remaining, ninjas with good speed stats will let you shift around a whole team without giving an enemy a single turn.

Just cheat for orbs. Orb grinding is super unfun.

The hero is immortal until he turns 20, but his offensive ability is tied to how much humanity is dead. Escudo can only kill fiends when 30% are dead.

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The duality of man. But the truth is that dungeon crawling is quite niche of a genre so you get mixed reactions like this.

Conquer land, it's free real state after all.

Kids are probably the only group he shows some semblance of genuine altruism towards.

I did this. But in the final stage of the dungeon I retreated but my character wasn't replaced with anyone (because there was no benched unit with actions left and I messed up), then I retreated another character in hopes of getting back the character I foolishly retreated away. Except that didn't work and I just lost yet another character.

Just grab orbs as you achieve other objectives. I never really felt like I was "grinding" orbs until the post game.

Yeah that's not how it works.
If you retreat a character, they're done for dungeon even if they have moves left.

I played this so long ago I didn't realise the translation was that bad.

I guess I will give this another go

Who is this hero guy, is a he character in rance's universe? If there's a legit hero running around why hasn't he killed rance yet for being a rapist warmonger in every country he visits

No, the best in the series is Kichikuou, followed by Sengoku and X, which doesn't have great gameplay but the story is amazing. Kichikuou is pretty much the ultimate Rance, it's like every game's story is contained in it (they changed a lot of the story of games posterior to it though. Kou and Xavier are really different from their Sengoku counterpart for example)

t. Rance pro

That can result in the "Hero" actively going around slaying millions to power up. It seems to be rare though.

The hero is only concerned with fighting demons, usually.

They have fought before. Rance almost died. He's also a major character in the final game, Rance X.

why is everyone suddenly playing this again?

Cola suggested Arios to kill off humanity's leaders so he could unlock the power to kill the archfiend.
Geimark also actually did it and managed to do it until 30% were dead. This is what he looked like after he was caught.

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The current Era of LP is relatively peaceful since Demon King Little Princess is contained and the Antagonist Race/Fiends are warring each other.
The Hero's power is dependent on a the Protagonist Race being on the brink of devastation.
Additonally the Hero levels up slower than other people although he cannot lose levels and has a level cap of 99.
So Arios the current Hero is doing shitty fetch quests while Rance does all the heroic stuff.

The hero is running around stuck on sidequests and they meet once in background lore, after so long he got too old and lost his powers and there was no candidate in the meantime, he gets his hero powers back and is a pain in the ass in 10.

I believe they have fought before X. He injured Rance but was unable to kill him.

official english release

Should have spoiled that.

I never stated when he was a hero.

There's a running joke in the games that the Hero keeps doing sidequests and Rance ends up being the one to solve the main problem during the game's time.

The current Hero is actually a retard that spends his time doing side quests while Rance saves the world in his stead. Him and Rance meet in Kichikuou Rance and also Rance X.

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The hero is more of a failsafe than a force of justice: Given how strong Demons and the Demon King are, the Gods made the Hero as a deterrence so they don't go batshit crazy and slaughter the Protagonist Race completely.

Is it possible to recruit hojo unique commanders in the true route?

Yes

Sadly the Hero Guide is a cunt that doesn't give a shit. So no Hero has ever killed a Demon King despite that being their purpose.

So they only ones I can't get are takeda and shimazu?

Yeah, you can get all 3 but only 2 out of the 3 stay with you till the end. Ran dies.

Yeah and Gele made human farms so the hero can't get a powerup while she sows suffering.

Well the guide's role isn't to actually help humanity, it's all about keeping the creator entertained via constant bloodshed without wiping out the protagonist race completely.

You can get Takeda.

You can't get Inukai, Akihime, I think Yukihime, anyone from the Demon army, and the Shimazu bros.

That wasn't becase of the slaughter though, he was so badly beaten after being caught that remained stuck as a walking corpse, unable to die due to him being the Hero of a System that had collapsed.

Geimark though is too spoilerish to be honest, shouldn't bring him up in thread without spoiler tags.

Thanks but is she a good unit in battle?

Nah, she's trash.

What happens if you attack Shimazu before the Demon King awakens?

>can get takeda
Is the bird cavalry worth the trouble?

At a stalemate, neither group can gain ground, what's going to happen next...!?
Also those Mouri nig nog yahoos cheated and took Akashi or whatever it was while in war, that's not fair!

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Some of the best in the game, but I think I need to add that Takeda is only capturable after your first game but also on every route.

You just can't.

Why?

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>Antagonist is named after a christian missionary and literally "corrupts" a japanese person into committing atrocious acts

Based japan

Hotwings are warriors that can attack the back lines. It's crazy strong against everything but other Hotwings

The game won't let you, there just will be no "declare war" option.

Yamagata has 8 in all stats. He can also attack the backrow. He also has a buff that boosts all of his stats at the start of a battle. Shoen is the same, but with slightly worse stats.
Takeda commanders are flat out some of the best commanders in the game. I think the only house that can compete is Dokangryuu, and that's thanks to Omachi.

wtf how?

To be clear, I can't capture any unique commanders from takeda in my first play through right? What about generic cavalry commanders, are they even existent?

I wish the non-canon routes had the option to trick the Shimazu brothers to go in the sex change temple.

By the power of fluffy

So how does dungeon crawling work?
If you lose you have to start over from floor 1? But if you retreat and try again, you don't start on the floor you retreated from, but floor 2 and then floor 3 on the third try?
Kind of disappointed that picture related doesn't appear to have amounted to very much. Because it wasn't too easy getting there. But fuck. I don't think this is possible for me then unless I can start from floor 17 or something.
7777 HP?

This dungeon is so messed up.
Like even if I could beat the boss, I am all out of actions by the time I get to it. Even weak shitters still need an action to be obliterated.

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Huh. I thought rance only raped women who used to be his enemies or at the very least subordinates of his enemies. But after the Senhime rape I see he just fucks whoever he wants

Get more satisfaction immediately, you need the third action per turn.

She takes it like a champ though.

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Yes they exist, and yes you can capture them.

Please spoonfeed me and say whats the best starting point to get into Rance

UESUGI FUCK OFF I'M ALREADY AT WAR IN TWO FRONTS JUST LEMME HAVE THIS ONE OKAY GOD

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Sengoku Rance

You can't attack Shimazu unless you're playing on Ran's route, where Xavier gets sealed before he can form the Demon Army, or Kill The Monkey, where Xavier never gets unsealed in the first place. They are pretty fucking annoying to fight though because they can randomly cause one of your female commanders to defect, which is actually needed for an optional way to beat them.

>everyone keeps talking about how the curse made Motonari super stronk
>break the curse
>he's actually a stronger unit than before

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Well I'm off to declare war on takeda, capture some generic hotwings before the demon army arrives.

She'll leave you the fuck alone if you are at war with her if you invade some other house's territory.

Uesugi is uncapturable when she assists your enemy, right?

Dungeon are awful busywork, they mostly boil down to trying to save the best units with enough actions to the bottom floor.
The weaker fodder can be dealt with lvl 30 and up units, start out with those first as well as ninjas with the dungeon expert skill since those reduce the amount of enemies you encounter. Swap out units that have used all their actions and only use Rance, Kenshin, Urza etc when you really need them.

Yes.

You can break his curse?

>Not capturing kenshin before the sect
You are to blame.

Road to Hades is the second hardest Dungeon, and yeah Gunagan is a bitch. If you retire you can start where you left from, not sure what happens if you lose.

Gunagan is a special superboss there's relly no benefit of beating him other than a CG for bragging rights.

If you wanna go for it though proceed until floor 17 and attack him the next turn, you'll need almost a full roster of unique commanders to stand a chance, specially the Fiend that joins you at late game

This is the second hardest dungeon in the game.
When you try to do this (and especially) orochi. you need to have done quite a few other dungeons for the levels and have 20+ decent level commanders

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How to replenish action points of the commanders for another dungeon raid after I retreat ?

She's uncapturable in general. The only way to recruit her is to reject Kensei's offer when he takes over the house and beat the living shit out of the remaining army, which should by all means be massively reduced by that point because Kensei is a fucking moron and removes 70% of the house's armed forces just because he insists women should stay in the kitchen.

Yeah it involves beating the Takuga group and clearing their characters.

>How to replenish action points of the commanders for another dungeon raid after I retreat ?
You can't, they're out.

>Kensei is a fucking moron and removes 70% of the house's armed forces just because he insists women should stay in the kitchen.
But that's based.

They repleneish for the next turn (not action fan)

Is buying more troops the only way to do more damage? None of my dudes can kill anything

Oops I declared war on them early, will I still get kenseis offer or did I fuck up?

You need to raise their stats, but for the most part a lot of early game units that you find are kind of shit. Best way to get decent units early on is to call in reinforcements but that requires quite a bit of satisfaction.

You have to reduce them to one territory to get the offer.

rate my big brain takeda encirclement tactic i'm about to execute

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The offer only happens after you've been at war with them for quite some time. I think it happens eventually after you've conquered their first province and have been cockblocked from conquering in their second one for a couple of turns.

>If you retire you can start where you left from, not sure what happens if you lose.
I retreated at floor 17 though, but when I exited I was met with picture related. Kind of felt like something of a kick in the gut.
On my previous attempt when I lost on floor 18 it said 0 afterwards. But now after my second attempt and after retreating after floor 17, it just says 1. That barely helps me at all!

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But it's difficult to even get to Takuga without going through Mouri.

You actually need to declare war on both Hojo and Uesugi if you don't want one of them be conquered by Takeda on your first run.

You fucking moron who declares war to Houjo AND Uesugi at the same time??

Not good, now they can attack you from any side.

Is sabotage worth it?

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Each time you try the dungeon and retreat, you claim 1 floor. So if you do it 16 times...
Still, it is just an optional superboss.
There are worse thing that can happen

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And to think Rance only learned anal sex was a thing in 6.

Oh shit. I captured uesugi how long do I have before takeda captures hojo. I have to pierce through Tokugawa and the Hank kingdom to get there.

No, it just lowers their morale rating and "wastes" an action. You can usually besides a few fights take any territory without doing it, some fights are trickier and require some good commanders to take before the turns are used up.

Battle prep is more consistent

>Each time you try the dungeon and retreat, you claim 1 floor. So if you do it 16 times...
>mfw I didn't realize I could do that my first time through
>mfw trying to get the pearl dungeon in one go with low level units only

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what if I am fighting someone I can't win against and I want to just hold them while I fight different side?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
FUCK TAKEDA

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what do?

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You are doing fine since you are on war with both. The first run has a trigger where if you declare war on either Uesugi or Hojo and ignore the other one, Takeda conquers the house you didn't declare war on within couple of turns.
Mouri also does the same for Tanegashima and Akashi.

It's really easy to defend territories unless you picked a fight with someone dangerous really early on. You can let them take a few territories if need be as long as you don't let them completely take one.

Battle prep at your borders.

Gay bird is here now.

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There is essentially no penalty if the enemy captures an individual holding within your area, as long as you don't lose them all.

Get one foot soldier and 1-2 high damage units for the front row
Maximize casualties on their side.
Remember that each faction can only attack once per turn.

This. If an enemy keeps counterattacking to retake lost territory on their own ground, you can just reload until they decide to assault on one of your territories that is not about to be taken over.

you dont need two walls even.

But they attack 3 times and Mouri + the twink are already getting ready to kick my ass

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The flaming homo is such a cool character.

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>He attacked the Youkai kingdom
OHNONONONO

you can brute force that lineup broski

2nd best girl, also helps that he is a boy too.

>cleared ashikaga
>didn't get any items
YOU FUCKERS LIED TO ME

tfw i want to replay this game but the porn is too vanilla

How do I acquire speed texbooks?

>Playing Rance for the porn

RNG, you get random speedbooks and speed is usually the rarest one.

So Rizna wants Int instead of Atk and Atk is practically wasted on her?

>Hello, Rance? I am GAY! For YOU!

Oh yeah, they're kind of different, I usually wait longer until I deal with them.

Correct.

Luck. Those are the rarest to adquire though.

Attack only affects physical attacks, onmyoji and mages use magic which depends on int.
Rizna is also poop since mages have shit speed multiplier so she never has time to attack more than once and even then she'll probably take a hit before it.

>Nippon's foremost onmyouji
I don't have mouth and I must tell you to go fuck yourself Aru

I forget when you get operation permits but when you do get them then defending becomes a lot easier because you can just let them retake any areas that you lose.

Oh shit I completely forgot about those. thank you for reminding me

I always thought it was either Uesugi or Hojo and Tanegashima or Akashi, never knew I recruit them if war was declared simultaneously on them.

It's a specific word that isn't actually 1:1 with "diviner" and is easy to figure out the meaning of through context alone, I don't understand the problem with it

The permits are really useful against them, never go to war with them if you don't have them, otherwise you will waste a lot of turns.

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Not him but I would have probably preferred diviner too. Can't say I care that much though.

War situation report:
I've managed to push back the yankee horde, I can't defeat the Mouri final defenses at Izumo, but I managed to win the battle they asked for so I got a province, also took one from those Tenshi devil worshippers but I'm at an impasse now, hmm...

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If I skip the porn, am I missing anything? I don't dislike porn but I find them dull and a complete waste of time.

When you're freed up some more, go to Miko Institute, relatively easy to take and has one of the best units.

No, they're kind of vanilla and boring, a bit funny with the music and the way Rance acts but not really worth reading.

>sometimes Rance just gets gibbed

Save often and learn who the tough guys are. Rance pairs well with a strong Foot Soldier for the entire game, there are stronger units but he gets unique stuff as the protag and firing off a last round Rance Attack is always good for tipping a battleground percentage victory.

You don't really lose anything if you just skip them. I've never really liked porn scenes in visual novels, they are always needlessly wordy.

you gonna have a bad time without Kenshin

Do you even do an event with a blank icon ? Or just go for a purple icons (which should be an event right?)

It's like a couple minutes of reading each time, aside from fun character interactions is some cases , what do you expect to miss?

ah yes
suffering

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Whisper into my ears softly Teru. Do continue please.

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one hero did kill a demon king only he died 20 years later from his injuries while also giving the birth gele who was cruelest demon king in history.

>>>>>>>>>>Client state

what??

Which one is better?

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Shizuka is in this version too, right? It's really sad my favorite girl was just added later on and doesn't have (important) events with Rance.

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Texas's rule! Bang!

Arunaru, they way she talk is arousing

ASDASDASDASADASDDAS

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basically how I cheesed the bridge fight, retreat rance and kentarou before they get aoe'd or single targeted by Xavier.

Finished my first clear with 59 points, used the wiki to look at units, but didn't follow a guide. How much better did you guys do than me?

The Hero didn't kill him he just shaved off 50 years of his lifespan. That Demon King died of natural causes a while after giving his power to Gele.

It's fine, just some pedophile. You don't need him.

I'd say the new one for sure. The old one feels like it kind of messes up in the middle. Specifically the "It has never been used." line.
With the new one her answers are quick, snappy, more consistent. Or so I'd say. It flows a lot better and sounds more natural.

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Are assassinated units always killed in action by the end or something?

Rance is the Gotrek & Felix of this world.
He just fuck around and end in saving the continent/world situations.

Not always, but the chance is very high

>First clear with 59 points
I knew what I was doing since I finished the game multiple times 7 years ago, and still only got 30 in a fresh start.
119 points with absolutely no bonuses and first game restrictions is quite amazing

Why does she ruin every game she's in? I'm tired of having to babysit her. It's even worse in X because unlike Sengoku you have zero down time in X. The clock is constantly against you and if you fuck up more than once prepare to get a bad ending. At the very least you can finally fuck her in X in a what-if scenario, but that still doesn't make up for it especially considering it's locked behind a bullshit secret boss.

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It's the isekai curse.

she cute tho

She cute though. Would befriend.

>Oh come on. It's a good translation with some really stupid shit in it. As opposed to the old translation which was a bad translation with some stupid shit in it.

Nah fuck this, same shit with the muv translation. Constantly throwing around stupid language that doesn't fit like dude/broski is like a bump in the road that takes me out of it everytime and makes me angry.

AASFGOKSRGKOPMGSRKLMÖSRGKLÖMSRGRKSGML

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Worth if they kill captains or reduce the Soldier numbers.

Nothing particular in mind, but I'm asking just in case as some porn in VNs are plot relevant.

is 119 the most anyone can get? That's crazy, the bulk of my points came from near the end of my run right before bridge I made sure every character command possible had the "Endgame Points" skill. I played Sengoku Rance like 5 years ago so I knew the basics but I was an impatient shit back then so I used cheat engine to play the game and I got bored after the first playthrough

Now I'm quite excited to do my second clear, do you guys do 1* or 2* difficulty for your second clear and Ran Route prob my best bet right?

Get fucked

How do I get closer to Kiku? Do I need to get closer to her sisters first or someting?

FOR
FUCKS
SAKE

SHIT GAME KUSOGE GARBAGE IPKOMGRSOEJPRGKSRGSIPKOJRGWSPKLIJORWGKLJRGWITOHEKLJRESTGUIOH

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That's what you get for stepping to best and most wholesome house.

>traded shit mage for a good ninja
I don't see a problem

Her sex scene in X is such a win moment it's worth every trouble.

Zoom zoom

The random seed for the assassination is decided at the beginning of the turn. However, it does it for the order of the assassination attempts, so if you can use assassinate before Kiku it can maybe foil her attempt. One option is to deploy Suzume with a tactician and hope that she gets a speed buff that ensures a faster turn order than what Kiku has.

Gotta capture her before conquering Mouri, she wants you to kill her Dad to clear her

>traded old hag for one of the Mouri hotties
Good deal

Protip: in dungeons Sill's heal give Rance action fan, so you can spam Rance attack every turn on boss.

>P.O.W.
So it IS possible to capture them before conquering all of Mouri?
I swear I kept trying and trying with multiple capture skills but I just never got any of them. Oh well. I won in the end and acquired all of them at once.

At first I just figured I remembered wrong and that they were actually uncaptureable. Guess I had the right idea from the beginning, just shit luck.

didn't you have to capture the miko institute before that cool girl unit kills herself, or was that for the second playthrough with enhanced starting stuff

How do you cockblock Shimazu from doing anything in the Ran route again? Do you have to vassalize certain countries?

Rizna is good against demons and Xavier.
Also Hannies cant touch her so she can defend alone.

You can but I find that RNG is set for the turn so if you don't capture them after like 10 attempts then you need to reload a different save. One of the sisters can't be cleared unless you get her before you conquer Mouri.

For real? So it's fucked then? Damn.

I gave up halfway through VI. I liked the game but it became a bit too grindy and dungeons were just annoying to get through.

I often have no trouble capping cappable characters if I have a unit with that fleeting battle skill.

Some people were suggesting the Mercy Charge or whatever on Ranmaru but I thought it's just better to have a footsoldier dedicated to the role rather than a foot soldier

>in dungeons Sill's heal give Rance action fan
Holy shit it does!? Damn.
Still don't know if I can beat the boss though.

The maximum is like 300+ points earned (plus 20 from doing the routes).
The most I know someone actually getting legit is 295
Ran can be rushed, same as Kenshin but even kill the monkey can give tons of points (since you can always y use permits, worry much less about commander levels and can do shit like gathering the treasurer, get 30000 unites and fuck 300 women)

Have they changed the requirements for the human faced doggy or what? I don't remember costing it 80 search points in the fan translation. Or maybe I recall wrong.

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a samurai*

That only matters in star runs where you're actually using her specifically for that, and she's not nearly good enough against demons to put up with her lackluster performance all through the game.

JUST

JUST FUCK MY ASS RAW WON'T YA? YEAH
HAHAHAHAHA YEAH HAHA THIS IS GREAT HAHA

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Why does an eroge have such a kino OST?

youtube.com/watch?v=vLIszDR0g9c

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I think she is magic immune, but her troops are not so you need to bring her troop size down to 1.

There's several events that lower the search requirement, not really worth doing most of the time though.

That's what you get for not having an all-guard chump, newbie.

Imagine being this cucked by rng

It's a kamige that's why

rekt

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Don't those guys still start with regular guard? That's turn one.

This might be a good time for me to remind you that it's a culumative effort to search for shit like this. All the points you've put into the event so far are subtracted from the total needed for the next time you attempt the event. So if you spend 16 search on that 80 search event, you need to spend 64 more on it for it to finish.

The dog is worthless though. Personally I'd save that for more useful events.

All guard chumps are for the backline user

youtube.com/watch?v=pDO7klKQZZc

good shit

Who is the best son?

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hey uuhhh how do you open the text log

Wait
>Hanny

Rance...

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nvm i found it

>a hanny
Uh

I still can't believe Rance fucked Hanty and a Haniko

Rizna's kid obviously.

Why is there a dragon in there

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Which ROTK game is the best? There's so many of them.

Dunno, but at least surely none of them can be as bad as their dad

*kills your entire team*

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got to play big if you want to win big.

That's the son of Patton and Hanty

how the fuck can you lose to the easiest final boss in the game?

Zance is fine with incest unlike Rance

I managed to survive the blitz once, but I forgot that it's the easier part and the actual hard part is trying to find the three generals once they join random houses.

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He didn't. The Hanny isn't anyone's son and the dragon is Hanty and Patton's child.

I don't like her hair.

Not if they're boys.

I played free for all yesterday with Takeda
>barely recruited prisoners
>didn't capture any unique chars at all
>even lost some good units
>still conquered the entirety of JAPAN
They're just too good.

Yeah, I'm picking it just because it can be selected as an NG+ bonus. I've got nothing else to do since I've just got the permit set and waiting for the territories to conquer themselves.

She's in quest, a shit unit in quest at that.

I mean not in every single case, but Rance did do stuff like destroying the pedo orphanage without ulterior motives.

based Copadonchad of ascended taste

Zance is his dad if you replace wanting to fuck every hot girl with wanting to straight up take over the world. The rest of Rance's kids are pretty cool though Mouri is a bit of a nutcase.

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i wanna a miko

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just a little more bros...

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Why are you not using the spoiler tag you stupid piece of shit is Yea Forums always this retarded? Fucking newfag.

can you fuck that smug bitch top left

Fuck off.

She's the first one to get fucked

yes

You are about 6 years too late if you are looking for a Yea Forums that is still tempered with some semblance of reason

Go back to your dying general you sperg. The Rance series is finished, who gives a fuck about spoilers?

If you don't do this Takeda will eat one of them

Sengoku Rance is often confused as Strategy Game.

its not. Its a puzzle game. You just have to find the right order to do thing by trial and error. Every not designed as "correct" path is a wrong path that will leave you to ruin eventually. The freedom you have is illusuonary.

Git
Gud

did she get crushed by a leaking ass?

Truth hurts?

Has anyone mentioned Rance's lack of level cap yet? I'm not going to bother reading the replies, because I want to be the one to talk about Rance not having a level cap.

Is it worth going to war with Takeda to prevent them from taking Houjou? My army sucks 2bh

Do you have battle permits? Without them you gonna have a bad time conquering them.

No. Takeda will massacre you.

Done bros. I'm about to play Rance 6, any advice for newbs?.

Be frugal with Presents.
There's lots of repeatable friendship events so don't worry about it.
Only use Red Coupons for Presents.
Use Fan Patch on top of the official.

Forget everything about sengoku and imagine the opposite. Only that will make VI fun for you.

Cheat for the orbs if you get burned out grinding them. Otherwise have fun and its a great game.

Why not declare war with Houjou? They are easier to deal with than Takeda.

There is no shame in using cheat engine if you feel like you hit a point where you feel like grinding solves a problem.

Brood War is often confused as Strategy Game.

its not. Its a puzzle game. You just have to find the right order to do thing by trial and error. Every not designed as "correct" path is a wrong path that will leave you to ruin eventually. The freedom you have is illusuonary.

i don't have a route to houjou
i'm taking on uesugi right now and i haven't killed the tanookis and hannies

In that case don't bother, Takeda are hard to deal with on first run even if you know what you are doing.

Correct. Except Brood War has multiplayer, which gives it actual strategic component as opposed to campaign which only offers limited freedom and influence of your strategic choices within the corridor made by developers

>last save 5 turns ago
>and thus senhime abando-

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Thanks. Rance bros (eroges in general) are the best and most helpful anons in this board.

If you don't follow the build order in multiplayer, you're fucked. It all boils down to your mechanical skill in fighting 30 years old interface, no strategy involved.

because they are all from reddit or vg (reddit)

>he doesn't know

Should've listened to her when she told you she lives to fuck shit up.
Also I'd recommend saving every time you use an action flag.

>last save 5 turns ago
What the fuck, I'll save after looking at satisfaction bonuses and then deciding not to get any

>read up on Rance lore
>everyone goes to hell regardless of what they do
Well shit

You underestimate the autism of /haniho/

You can also sell your soul to the devil which is a marginally less painful fate.

>Defeat Iga clan last action of the turn
>Decide that it's time to push west next turn so I can face demon army quickly once they show up
>Fucking Asai-Asakura decide to declare was on me during the enemy phase
God fucking damn it, no, I don't want to face your worthless little fucking nation and your stupid fucking pandas! Go away!

The gods are cruel

It's just a process where souls are purified from old memories and such before reincarnation.
Those who deal with devils don't actually go to hell though.

Dying is a sucker's game

which rance game is the best?
i know this one is the most popular but that doesnt always mean it's the best

They visually resemble sengoku rance but not even the most RPG-heavy games in those series play anything like it.

VI and Quest are pretty good, but most people agree that Kichikou was the pinnacle of the franchise.

'There's literally nothing wrong with KIA or POW.

it is the best

Depends on what sort of gameplay you like since they all have different styles. My favorites are Sengoku, X and 03.

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X objectively is the best game.

are the third reinforcements from each nation worth it or should i do something else with my satisfaction now?

You can just cancel without losing a fan

leazus 3rd reinforcement is god tier and zeth's is pretty strong

X>SR>KR>03>IX>Quest>VI>IV>01>5D>02
The top three are amazing. The rest are pretty good except 5D which is meh and 02 which sucks

Kichikuou, Sengoku, 03 and X are usually considered the best gameplay wise.
Sengoku is probably the best in terms of replayability. X feels more rigid in that sense.

Yes they're worth it.

Magic is pretty much a worse version of Rizna, and Leila WILL be lost if you lose with her on the team while fighting the demon army.

what makes leazus's better? zeth's is a mage like rizna and rizna is pretty strong

Pretty patrician opinion here.

>Magic is pretty much a worse version of Rizna
wot m8? Magic is the better version. WDB is good

Magic has white destruction beam and can erase 2 units when you use it.

Lelia Is just a better foot soldier + warrior

>woman are a lot more testy about having men fuck little girls
user women love fucking loli

ok but should i do that or make toshiee a kabuki actor

It takes best parts of samurai and foot soldier and combines them. Replenishing soldiers is 1$ a piece including taxes.

He gets a pretty significant stat boost if you do it and the follow up event, since he turns into Keiji.

No. And don't bully Mitsuhide.
Both of those do nothing on first time. At second time they upgrade the respective units, but they turn from bad to mediocre. You are better spending those bonuses elsewhere.

Kabuki actor if you are a memelord, otherwise reinforcements.

besides what people said leila also gets a special move on her unit that does insane damage to units with a higher troop count than hers (which is most units)

Get the reinforcements and fire the other guy.

You see rance is beyond concepts such as good and evil or hero and devil. He is a singularity, a glitch and the greatest being to ever exist. I say this unironically. The creator god, a whale who enjoys watching the mortals suffer and who has destroyed entire races when they bored him, finds him amusing. Rance is so unique that the creator god ended up allowing himself to be born as one of rances many kids, and ended up changing for the better because of the experience as a mortal child of rance. Also the hero is a pussy and rance fucked his girl

Only Urza is worth it. All the other reinforcements are average at best.

Doesn't bullied Mitsuhida have a clear report at least? Worth to do it, at least on ng+.

Based Battlerchad. Go touch their boobs like you were meant to.

You should have another fan by now

lmfao if you can't beat the game in multiple ways doing whatever the fuck you want.

Did true history on 57 turns, wonder what bonuses I should get. Action flag is 10, operation permits cost 5 so it would leave me 1 that I can't use.

His replacement can't be cleared according to wiki at least. I never bothered using it since he has only two actions.

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so hard to decide

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Rance is a an alpha male, all pedos are effeminate betas. It would not have fit the character.

What's the gameplay like?

BARREN WOMB

Why does the nip fantasize about the white man conquering their country and raping all their women?

Ah right she can't be cleared, she's under "commanders under your control when game ends" section of game progress report.

To be fair all of his female siblings are prime breeding material. Would be curious what their double infinite level glitch would create

Nigger the series has been over for years and that wasn’t even a spoiler about any of the story. You dumb faggots need to stop coming into threads if you don’t wanna see spoilers you gaping asshole

>Keep getting attacked by new foes whenever I try to deal with the fucking monks.

wtf man

Action flag>Relationship>Summon forces

Fug, I just wanted to breed Kenshin before he revived.

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This nigga is a big dumb dumb. Leila is a very powerful unit as is magic. Urza is still the best reinforcement unit period, probably in the top 5 of best units

Reset is for protecting

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Until Part 2 happened.

At first I was kind of turned-off from all the rape but i'm starting to really like rance

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Say it ain't so user. I'd die if anything happened to her.

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Are you referring to the fact that she got a featured spot on blued.com?

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Jesus fuck I have no idea how to play this. Should I spend my gold on expanding my commanders's armies? And should I even bother recruiting mooks?

>was gonna work out, study japanese, and do a guitar lesson, do laundry, just be productive on my day off
>spent the last two hours playing this game
I forgot how addicting this game was. It's basically just Anime Civilization.

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I just died to the last floor of a dungeon, should i just restart my save?

DELETE THIS!

Save gold for replenishing troops, spend excess gold on recruiting.

You're missing how much of a dick rance is

Yeah.

MORE LEWDS PLEASE

fuck i just spent 25 minutes on this

Just one more turn broski

>should I even bother recruiting mooks?
It depends. Fuuka from your first province is weak but can be important later, Mino three lead to one of the cheese or, dare I say, slimy character. As for prisoners, most uniques and half-uniques are at least decent, and some non-uniques can generate with great stats.

25 minutes on a dungeon? Just reload your save, don't make a new one.

you recruit as many dudes as you need to address your needs. or that is if you feel you aren't conquering shit fast enough or you need defenders or whatever, time for more guys. you can always dumpster them for better uniques. if you are brand new to SR you are probably not being as aggressive as you could.

The roster is out of 30, right? Leave 1 spot open in general.

How far am I in VI? I just finished fighting forehead girl for the first time. The grind is starting to get to me now.

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Yeah i carefully took my time so that i get enough actions left but then i got fucked by the lvl60 hanny that killed the best characters i saved for the last floor.
Unfortunate

Very close to getting to the best part of the game. Cheat if the grind is annoying you.

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Are any of those extra characters worth getting when starting NG?

I kill him, right?
Is peace offer any good?

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Elina is good, others are so-so. You should aim for house bonuses if you want to start ng+ with really good characters.

Diviner is okay because she's the only diviner you can get early outside of house bonuses. The monk is godlike at soloing battles early to mid game with the -50/-100 damage item.

you just gonna let some old prick do what he wants? you gotta think like rance to get the best results in this game

peace doesn't get you pussy
nothing else matters

Kill him, else you'll lose out on Kenshin as a commander, and she's up there alongside Natori as one of the best units in the game.

If you want to recruit the best Samurai in the game kill him

You have to conquer Uesagi in 5 turns else you lose on all their commanders, peace offer gives you warrior reinforcements from time to time and you gain Uesagi as a vassal.

Peace only comes once you've conquered the entire nation user.

cunt uesugi always shows up when i try to get the mikos, i just want to recruit himiko ffs

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I got lucky and snagged Himiko after my first encounter with her. Wasn't able to get Goemon though.

>turn
>money
What the fuck are you doing

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goemon is a cunt anyway, i just want my cute himiko but she wont show up REEEEEEEEEEEEE

We've been helping him since release. He did the infinite stalling of Honnouji

Doing my second playthrough and absolutely cheesing it now on 2* beating first fiend at 40, was going to do Kenshin route but I forced ashikaga to surrender so I can't. Should've used a walkthrough. Guess I'm gonna fight the demonking.

Naruhodo

Do yourself a favor and just look at a walkthrough for all the route conditions. It's not as simple as what the mansion tries to tell you. Save yourself a lot of wasted effort.

If you really are killing it with a score I'd just complete it like it is your first run and give it another redo with a much higher score to spend. Makes things so much easier.

A B C user

ALWAYS
BE
CONQUERING

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This, pretty much.

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You need to win the all out battle before you can capture them. In order to character clear them you must capture and hire them before winning and advance their dialogue. Same for 4some scene.

no seriously, how the fuck do i get this bitch to show up?

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Thanks bros. I think I'm gonna start over, the whorehouse kingdom is kicking my ass and all my commanders except ranmaru and Shibata are shit, including Rance himself.

Is she even any good, I captured her but seems pretty meh

Rance has a slow start, try to get him to 500 troops soonish and use stat books on him.

Look buddy if you want to play obscure Japanese ero games you're just going to have to suck it up and actually study Japanese.

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Do tenshi have any good commanders I should be trying to capture or should I just destroy them and move on

>senhime wants to be defeated
>alright i guess
>she dies
>forgot to save
yep i'm a dumbass

what do

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I forced a surrender on one state after beating a few of their towns, and instead of it becoming mine, it became a client state. What are their benefits? It's like a owned state but worse, and I can't conquer it again since I can't declare war.

very strong early-mid game but falls short later.

Reminder to vassal Tenshiism if you want a second Natori

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Nyohoho

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the only state worth vassaling is tenshi. the rest give no benefits. for actually conquering a state, you usually get some sex and commanders. you don't get that if you vassal them.
tenshi gives you seigan if you keep them alive, so it could be worth it

>Same for 4some scene.
Aw fuck. I did get this on my initial blind unguided playthrough from 10 years ago. But now I apparently fucked it all up somehow.

>You need to win the all out battle before you can capture them.
The what now battle? This I don't remember. Did I even face this battle before I conquered all of their territories? I don't think I did. You mean a battle with Mouri and all of the sisters, no?
Was I too quick or something? Because I did kind of bumrush them hard

Ally guard plus into all guard

>vassal Tenshiism
How?

Shengin is one of the best monks in the game as far as I'm concerned. I forget how you get him though. I think you gotta declare war and force them to surrender before the gourds start breaking.

All-Guard if you can raise his Int a lot.
The upgraded Ally-Guard and the passive skill that has them start with tons of guard if not.

The translation was incredible, just not sufficiently proofread.

Don't conquer their last area. Finish the event at honnouji and wait a turn or two, they should ask to cease hostilities as a beginning of turn event.

You can send Senhime into autolose battles to avoid this risk.

Initial guard up.

Do not bum rush Mouri if you want to go full maids. If you fight them for awhile you should get an option or cutscene for an "All Out Battle", which will be something like Rance + your choice vs Mouri and all 3 daughters. If you win you get a province no matter how big it is, if you lose Mouri will pick Rance up and twist him apart in his bare hands. After the All Out Battle you can take the maids as POWs normally.

If you get all three you get a great flavor cutscene with Mouri. If you wanna bang Kiku you need to build affection until she dares you to beat up her dad.

The only good thing about the Big Boy Mouri is that he always does a 200 damage no matter the enemy, which is only really useful for routes that involve a lot of dungeon diving.

motherfucker
>turn 21
who did you conquer first? im on 11

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On a first ever playthrough, any advice for what to do with these guys and who I should concentrate relationship points on, I also have 1 attack book and 2 intelligence books to use

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That bitch is freelancing in every single faction i wage war against. Never manage to catch her and i refuse to savescrub that hard on my first file.

If you are war with them for long enough they get impatient and challenge you to an all out battle with their best commanders. If you win you get a whole territory regardless of how much you own and then the girls become capturable.

I feel like people are sleeping on Quest Magnum as one of the better Rance games
Magnum fixed the story scope problem and it's super replayable with the way it handles NG+ cycles

It seems drugs can be good for you

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he's a decent staller for defense, his uncursed is a great above average unit and all his forms pull weight in dungeons. he's also hilarious and canonically he does shit like force Xavier to spend eight hours straight fighting.

Is this diviner lady that good? I thought all diviners except the hojo guy were shit
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>I feel like people are sleeping on Quest Magnum as one of the better Rance games
IT WOULD HELP IF MANGAJEWS RELEASED THE FUCKING GAME

>play Mamatoto
>realize just how far back some of Rance's characters go
They reused like three fourths the characters in that game.

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How is rance satisfaction bonus working? I just hit 10, should I use it straight away or wait?

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>If you are war with them for long enough they get impatient and challenge you to an all out battle with their best commanders.
Damn. I did recall something like this. But after a couple of turns of nothing and I started to question whether or not it'd happen at all. So I figured it was likely an event that'd happen when they got cornered, so I cranked my offense up to the max and calimed all their territories.

So always leave at least two of their territories until you get the all-out battle then? One that can be given to you which I guess is a prequisite for the event, and another so that they can remain themselves afterwards?

>Play Miko Institute in Free For All
>Underrated "generics" like Himiko and Goemon completely fuck everything
>Then Takeda looks at me
FFA always turns into Shimazu vs One Eye anyway, aside from that odd run where Hara becomes an unstoppable superpower for no reason.

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What is bottom left even meant to criticize? The full heal thing? Something else?

>vassaling anyone
>not just conquer tenshiism after the temple event

Isn't it required to get Seigan?

Use, get Rance attack or wait a little bit and use it to get reinforcements from another country (You need to wait for Rance to mention his other adventures offhand for that to show up)
Don't bother with Kabuki or the other shit unless you just feel like messing around

Souun, Omachi and any that happens to have all guard shikigami are good.

Also if you get the mino three later you can get a special unit with a satisfaction bonus

This is no doubt the worst mistake of this entire run that I did. Should have been very easily avoidable too.
Man this will bother me. Oh well. Guess I'll just have to take it now. Not going to rewind 15 or whatever turns just for another do-over.

Vassaling is pointless, but Tenshiism (and to a small extent Tokugawa) are the only houses worth doing it to.
>Seigan, a slightly worse Natori with no upkeep required, like all monks
>Easy Troops and P.O.Ws until they vassal
>Iga never gets Gourded

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FUCK YOU TAKEDA
I FUCKING HATE YOU

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just started playing today, i'm at turn 10 fighting ashikaga, who are spamming ashigaru with guard on their last territory
is there any specific unit type to counter these or do i just have to increase troop count on my shitters until i can overpower them? any newfag tips welcome

How do i do that? battle without any units at all?

who is this girl

>send her in
>So I send no one in?

>start new game
>battle against Hara at turn 4, not even their province capital
>got SenriQ's cup as post-battle loot
How does post-battle loot work again? I know turns ending in 6 guarantee a stat book but what about all the normal battles?

that's the only way i know to autolose

A smelly girl

He means fights where you're guaranteed to lose due to story reasons. For example, trying to fight Kenshin with Rance in the army will make you autolose. You'll only know what fights that'll happen in after your second playthrough or so its kinda useless advice.

He's talking about battles you're supposed to lost, the Panda waves are a good example.

Eh the Mino Three has an event tied to them?