8gb ram meme FINALLY BUSTED

>im using some shitty pc from 2005
havent played a game in a few years bros, it can barely even handle Youtube videos

Just dual channel LOL

What are you on about. I played this game on a 2080ti with 8gb ram( had 16 but 2 sticks died) and worked just fine at ultra settings 1440p.

Take the amount of RAM available in the current gen consoles and double it, there you go you have the right amount of RAM until another generation gets released, not hard

pick one

>you're tellin lies
>you have ddr4 ram

maybe superfast ram can handle the overlflow etc etc

a hammer? No i will smash it with my massive dong.

New games are gay and boring anyway user, your machine is perfect to play some good ole Quake or Half Life 1

>Not having 32gb

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You pretty much can't even browse the web casually without 32GB of RAM these days you know.
Fuck you fuckers still rolling 8gb and doing fine.

I'm on 8GB and Far Cry 5 and Borderlands 3 legitimately raped my system in memory demand

t. autismo with 40 simultaneous chrome tabs.

I can use a 1GB RAM laptop from like 2007 running Lubuntu to watch YouTube and browse just fine. Just keep it to 2-3 tabs max

>tfw kinda shoulda boughta 32gb desu

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ok retard

>PC game is poorly optimized shit because they are encouraged to make PCfags buy expensive hardware they shouldn't need
nothing new here.

Nah, and as I said I feel I am doing perfectly fine for my needs with 8

It's optimized. Just not for your toaster.

I had to upgrade to 32 for music production.

that's fine, i've had at least 16 for years now

Perhaps something similar to what happened with game sizes.

im using 16gb ram dual channel
its ddr4 and clock speed 3200MHz

"Haha 16gb is the standard now!!! 8gb fags BTFO"
>*Games immediately don't bother optimising RAM usage and the same shit games will end up using 16gb*
>*16gb is no longer enough and we have to pay for more RAM to bruteforce developer incompetence

Yeah well done retards

>tfw PC is on its last legs and need to upgrade but DDR5 isn't out yet

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No one is forcing this

Full ram doesn't necessarily mean that your computer is running out, computerlets.

PC noob here. I have a hand me down PC and I'd like to to upgrade the RAM since mine came with 6GB. My mobo is an intel GA-EX58-UD3. So could I stick any RAM stick in there as long as they're DDR3 and 1500 mhz and not exceed 24GB total? or do I have to worry about incompatibilities?

>advocating efficient programming and optimization
Geesh grandpah get with the times.

this thread is the ultimate proof 90% of 4channel users run toasters

I played the division 2 with 8gb, it uses all the ram but was playable
my computer needed like 10 minutes to recover after I quit the game though

Well I bought my PC just a little over 4 years ago and DDR4 was really just taking off then so I cheaped out and bought 8GB DDR 3 and am paying the price now

lets not pretend a lot of game requirements are not bloated af

So? 32gb ans 64gb are small as fuck unless Ur a gaymer

I'm good.

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>"my $3000 mustard rice PC can't run a video game like $500 console. it's the developers fault!"
Cope hard. Consoles since the dawn of time have always outperformed PC.

it only causes issues in a few games, the only games that were hard to run on 8gb for me were the division 2, day z and rust

one thing keeping me from upgrading my i5 3570k is the current ridiculous price of RAM.

I'm glad I grabbed 16gb when I could.

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It's yuro hours right now, so yeah, a lot maniacs that play old toaster optimized f2p games and scream about how their 750 should still run everything great but the industry is forcing fake upgrades.

I ran out of 8gb RAM in Fallout 4 and modded KSP years ago

It would be dumb to use 8gb today when memory prices are so cheap

RAM and SSD prices are historically low and supplies are already taking measures to reduce production and stop the oversupply from next year

do i buy 2x 4gb or 1x8gb

2x8

i don't want 24 gbs

Why Fuck about with 16 get 32 and be done with it

>800MHz ddr2

>tfw still on 8GB of DDR3

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end your life ASAP

I feel that there is a not-insignificant amount of people who put their RAM sticks side by side in neighboring slots.

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what's your current amount rn, do you have 2x8gb?

OP here. ram upgrading/installing requires a person to have a diploma in tech

no 2x4gb

Me too for a while, friend. I recently got another 8 GB and the difference is quite noticeable and nice, although my PC is still a bit slow. Are we on DD5 already? I don't even know and can't keep up, at this point I might as well make a new build with a 2070 and 64 GB of DDR5 RAM.

Why the fuck do you have 4 SSDs?

get 2x4gb. quad channel ram is the best config, even better than the standard dual channel. make sure they have the same ddr and same clock speed so you dont run into issues

ok thanks

It sounds dumb but I saw The Verge building a "$2000 gaming PC" and they actually put the RAM sticks adjacent to each other and it is a professional technology website with millions of subscribers.

I am convinced a lot of people put their RAM sticks next to each other now. If you think about it's not intuitive that you have to space them apart.

In fact I think a lot of people may be putting their GPUs in the wrong PCIe slot, they may think putting it at the bottom slot gives the case more room to breathe.

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Literally

It's been obsolete for years now

thats why its a meme to build your own gaming pc.

>just like Lego XD.

It depends on a mobo, you should read the manual for dual-channel memory for a particular mobo.

Most people run toasters and there's nothing you can do about it sweetie.
Enjoy spending thousands for nothing since games won't push for your specs ;)

retard probably disabled virtual memory/page file

Imagine being this low iq. Just imagine. Wew.

>This thread

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>16gb
What is this 2011?

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only the brazilians

GTA V didn't work on my PC with 8gb of RAM back in 2015, I thought this meme was long dead

no, in 2011 you only needed 4gb of ddr2 which came to about 15 dollars

>tfw bullshitted my boss regarding ram and got 64gb
>can edit videos and run 4 game instances of
>running bots and rendering without a single hiccup

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Either it's incredibly poor memory management on Ubisoft's part or OP's PC has faulty RAM. Probably a mix of both. OP, this is a game that was made for current gen consoles that use a shared pool of 8gb RAM for GPU and CPU. Is OP running some sort of APU setup?

youtube.com/watch?v=rYs1RfoC0Qc

youtube.com/watch?v=XOZ5CuZ4sP4

That video was ridiculous for the amount of errors made in it, RAM in adjacent slots is one of the less catastrophic ones made

good thing I was never planning to play soigames

imagine playing a game that is swapping

are you stupid?

given the ridiculous proliferation of garbage-collected runtimes in modern games (so you can stutter every second) it's incredible how many games exhibit memory leaks and just end up crashing due to lack of RAM sooner or later

/vint/ already proved this with the flags. Most PC "master race" users were outed to be from 3rd world shitholes like Brazil. They were also the main force behind platform wars and portbegging while still pretending to own powerful rigs.
>B-but muh leafs
They were shitposters as well, but they were off-topic shitposters.

Even lego sets come with a manual.

Use ssd.

The game features shit graphic, your are goddamn right

Have you tried reading a motherboard manual?

>ubisoft
lol

LMAO dude with 8 ram here

Why did Nintendo skimp out on ram so hard with the switch. They almost gave it only 2 until capcom told them that was fucking retarded but 4 really isn't much better.

my niggardly friend has been ruining our groups games with his fucking 8gb of ram constantly fucking his computer up.

Don't you worry, the Switch 2 will have a whopping 6GB of DDR4.

They are colored like that for a reason.
Literally match the colors.

>using some unoptimized westshit as the standard
oofs

I got 32gb for a VR game.

Why the fuck is RAM so expensive now?

Why don't they just put the right ram slots next to each other?

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>not have 16gb
Also who gives a shit about Division 2? Don't play normie games made by retards who can't be bothered to optimise their shit.

not fast enough

GTA5 runs on last gen consoles that have 512mb RAM, retard

You just wait till DDR5 hits, goy. Enjoy your $350 for 16GB.

No shit we all knew this. Just like when i upgrade my monitor tower video card etc you never downgrade always go upgrade.

>that feel when my 3570k is starting to show it's age and some newer games max it out to the point where I need to close background programs to get rid of the stutter

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And? Console ports are almost always bloated pieces of shit compared to their console counterparts

Bloated, yes. Require literally 16 times more RAM? No.

>tfw still got an FX6300
I didn't really care until I played DMC5. I was sure I'd be able to run it on 60FPS if I at least lowered my settings to low/med, but even that couldn't do it. That kinda killed my hype for it a bit and I'm not touching it again until I make a new PC.

Wouldn't setting the game's exe to "High" processor priority through the task manager be better than closing a bunch of random programs?
Genuinely asking because it fixed some minor stuttering I had on Far Cry New Dawn and Assassin's Creed Odyssey

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I'm surprised I found reason to upgrade from my i5 2500k.
For a game called cyubeVR.

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>windows requires 0 B of RAM

>windows requires 7.5GB RAM

setting it to high definitely helps in some games

Not him, I have one stick of 8GB DDR3 and the division 2 + discord is working fine on ultra.

this makes me remember using game booster to squeeze these extra RAM that would make a difference

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So I have to upgrade just for an Ubishit's shitty game and double-layered DRM + Tencent Store?

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I agree, but...
>using shitty unoptimized console port ubitrash

Yuropoor here, ram prices have risen since Zen2, 2x8 3200c16 used to be ~70€, now it's around 110 at least in my country, maybe german stores have better prices idk

poorfag here
I have one of those recent i5, a 1050ti, an SSD and 8Gb of RAM
Would upgrading to 16gb really make a noticeable difference at least for the short term?

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Do you max out your RAM? If no it's a pointless upgrade

No.

16 ram is pretty much minimum for many games now.
Hell even if a game only needs 8 ram it still has to share that 8 ram whit your OS.
So just by having 16 you make sure the game will always have enough ram to itself.
Just cause 3 for instance required you to literally close all background aps or it gives you a Low memory prompt and you would still get occasional frame drops and chugs.
16 gb completely fixes this issue.
16 gb is also the bare minimum for "PC" version of Breath of the wild.

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RAM is cheap as chips now, 16GB should always have been your minimum.

Not him but you have one for your OS, One for games, Music, general stuff, and porn

>16gb new strandard.
Poor poor RAMlets

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i use 8gb and have no trouble with any of the games i play, so i'm not sure what all the fuss is about

I have literally yet to find a single instance where i required more than 16 gb of ram.
Even under heavy load i barely go above 12 GB.

Isn't Intel doomed because they have to rethink their entire manufacturing process to escape Spectre flaws?

wired.com/story/intel-meltdown-spectre-storm/

I feel in the future, another chipmaker will take advantage of Intel's fatal flaw and release new chips with a different manufacturing process that doesn't have any Spectre vulnerabilities.

This is good. It felt wrong to me how only one company can dictate chip designs.

This, the onlt games i have that i cant get to run well are post scriptum and squad, and i dont thi k theres a PC on earth that can make those technical messes run well

But thats ubishit

I'll upgrade when I encounter a game I can't play. Since I avoid most AAA stuff that will be a while.

Intel didn't invent x86-64 but good luck to anyone else having the fabs to compete with intel or AMD

AMD has a solid shot, at least to take a huge chunk of the marketshare from Intel. the new Ryzen processors are selling like fucking crazy.

>I have literally yet to find a single instance where i required more than 16 gb of ram.
You don't build your shit for today + 2 weeks.
Also imagine having 16GB RAM DISK with 16GB RAM still available.
SSD fags with their toys can go cry in the corner now.

16 GB of memory

Like 13 GB dedicated to game

13 GB = 16,000,000,000 bytes = 16 billion bytes

An image stored with raw RGBA per pixel could store 500,000,000 pixels.
You could store the state of 118 4K bluray screens.
You could store the state of 250,000,000 particles interacting given a simple struct state for each particle.
You could have a minesweeper grid of 70,000x70,000

>It felt wrong to me how only one company can dictate chip designs.

It's not that only one company had the power to dictate chip design it's that it's super expensive and difficult to get into CPU manufacturing thus no one wants to break into the market. The fact that even AMD exist is a miracle. It's very unlikely anyone will try to break into the desktop/server CPU market in a long time.

it's not a good idea to randomly stick ram onto the mobo.
you should check the mobo's manual for the ram configurations available and upgrade following the one that fits your situation.

it's pointless (unless you use you pc mainly for photoshop or the like). save the money.

Watch out for:
Max ram capacity
Channel layout
Max clock speed and version (e.g. DDR3 1066 MHz)
The physical size of the sticks and if they're going to fit with your cooler.

24GB master race here.
I wanted to buy 2x4GB and accidentally got 2x8GB, but at least I'm good on ram for the next decade, I guess.

That's retarded. Computer parts are never future proof and if you had the money for retarded buying decisions like 32gb, you surely will upgrade when necessary. By the time 32 woule be necessary you had already bought a new system, you retarded consumer.

3700x son

>You don't build your shit for today + 2 weeks.
Literally 1 minute including reboot to upgrade ram, so yes you do

>share that 8 ram whit your OS
What?

>16 gigs of RAM disk
Do you ever even fill it? I never run out of 2.

Got a few things running in the background

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>Hell even if a game only needs 8 ram it still has to share that 8 ram whit your OS.
shouldn't have pirated :P

define "fine"
what are your low, high, and average fps?

>start up Rust
>EXCUSE ME SIR IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE LESS THAN 10GB OF RAM SO GAME WON'T RUN GOOD
what the fuck went so wrong?

>start up Rust
There's your problem

>1200 Mhz

is that shit bugged?

reminder that the wii had less ram than the psp

fuck knows, it just works.

I have 2 sticks of ddr4 8gb ram in my pc. An it's super fast I cann't imagine needing any more ram then this.

Something about DDR being dual so speccy only reports half the actual speed

Speccy cuts speeds for some reason. I have 3200Mhz DDR4 yet it says something just under 1600Mhz.

A lot of PC vidyas are horrifically unoptimized.

You clock your RAM to 3200MHz?
Else you're running your ram under clocked.

I can run TD2 with my 8 gb of ram. It just looks like literal vomit

Yes XMP as always. Speccy is just shit. It doesn't show overclocks either, and thinks my 1070ti only has 4GB of VRAM.

Triple channel return WHEN?

Never. Just buy HEDT goy.

>>not even 12gb ram is enough for Division 2 on LOW settings on my rig
>Implying

Still sitting here with 4GB DDR2. Good games dont need more than that.

>2047MB RTX 2060

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Says the corelet. How you're dealing with the stutters, my man?

>not knowing how DDR memory works

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>t's not intuitive that you have to space them apart.

If you can't figure out or at least question why ram slots are in color pairs I'm afraid your IQ is below 80.

Why are poorfags this buttblasted about RAM requirements again?
Memory isn't even expensive, 16 GB of decent speed RAM is like 90€.
I still remember the seething back in 2012/2013 when 4 GB became too little.
In a year or two 32 will be the new gold standard.

>DDR - Double Data Rate
why is Yea Forums full of brainlets?

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>a professional technology website with millions of subscribers.
In 2019 this amounts to nothing more than dumbphone reviews of the hottest new iPhone and other Apple trash.

>hobbling your Haswell tier CPU even further by using slow memory

>needing 12gigs for the Division 2
>when the beta ran smooth as butter as Division 1.
More like Ubisoft is retarded, user.

>16 GB of decent speed RAM is like 90€.
Yikes.
A good 16GB 3000Mhz CL15 kit costs 72€ here.

Even less then.

Should've bought it when it was like 55€ but people told me it would go down even more. Still pretty decent prices, maybe I'll upgrade to 32GB when I get my next wagecuck paycheck.

when has 8g of ram ever been acceptable? 16 has been the norm for EASILY over 5 years now

I bought my kit for ~85€ back in 2016.

God developers are such a joke

You'll not get me to buy another 16GB of RAM you google chrome using shill

> Coding standards in the toilet
> Soon you'll need 128 gigs just to start Windows!!!

> This is a good thing!

Fuck computers

>just built a new PC
>tfw putting it through it's paces
Goddamn this silky smooth framerate is orgasmic.

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Ram has speed?

Doesnt Intel have to pay royalties to AMD for AMD64?

>memory is cheap as shit
>games and software gets more complex
>more data to store and operate on
>let's use assembly level optimizations so we can save 7 kb and take 5 years longer

If you throw it
Of course it has, everything in you computer which deals with data has speed

wtf photoshop doesn't eat that much ram lmao

Well, if hard drives become cheaper then that's not a problem. Either way, the only reason sizes are getting big is because higher fidelity and wanting more performance. There was an user a some time ago about compressing shit, so I'll link the thing again: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space–time_tradeoff#Compressed_vs._uncompressed_data
If some genius individual/team comes along with a cuhrayzee algorithm then that'd be great, but for now we can't do shit.

Of course. What did you think the difference between DDR3 and DDR4 was?

Reminds me of the article from Motherboard which claims building a PC is too hard even in current year. Fuck tech sites nowadays.

Yes, good idea to up it to 16 GB.
Even entry-level Macs have 8 GB now, there's no way that is acceptable for ultimate PC ~performance~

>The Verge building a "$2000 gaming PC"
That shit was hilarious.
youtube.com/watch?v=M-2Scfj4FZk

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It's easy as shit if you aren't clinically retarded.
youtube.com/watch?v=KGU7QXXHVgs
Even this Japanese school girl can build one. Surely you're just as able to do it.

I don't have 32gb because I opted for 16gb of good ram instead of 32gb of dogshit.
Am too poor to afford 32gb of 3200 cl14 RAM.

To be fair, most people there overreact like retards.

It's a good video to show someone who is new and afraid to build a PC.
>see? that fag got everything wrong and it still works

Thread should've ended there.

How is this news to you? I've upgraded to 16GB a year ago and I still felt that I did it kinda late.
Only absolute poorfags still sit on 8GB.

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>anti static bracelet
Do I actually need those? I don't use those and never got my pc fucked.

Just touch the unpainted part of your space heater. Same effect.
You should be fine in 99% of times even if you don't do it anyway though.

Just discharge yourself on a piece of metal before touching the circuits.

You don't. It's there just to be extra extra safe.
PC components can handle some static.

How are you this stupid while still acting like this much of a victim, OP?

>discharge yourself on a piece of metal
Ah ok, that's what I do. Thanks.

Those are essentially a holdover from ye olden days.
Modern components are built well enough that the kind of discharge you could realistically get while putting a PC together won't brick anything.

Something like upper 50 on an old oc 970 and a trash i5 on 1080p.

>mfw still 4GB ram

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>8 gig ram
hope my reaction image doesnt make you lag

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My second PC has also only 4GB RAM. I only use it for internet and general media consumption though. It's fine. Especially if you use Loonix.

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kek, based

I still only used above 8gb in my pc for work calculations

>no one wants to break into the market
You need a x86 license and afaik currently only VIA has one besides Intel and AMD. It's not that simple.

retard newfags just find a private torrent tracker and download some more RAM, pirate style

>tfw you fell for the 16 gib ram meme

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Got my new PC last month and opted for that because next gen prep. Biggest tech nerd I know said 3000 minimum on the speed so it was very expensive.

Bros....

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>tfw 24GB DDR3-1333
It was so fucking cheap bros. Forgive me.

>this retarded bait thread again
haven't you been BTFO yesterday, faggot?
kys

its almost like videogame sizes are increasing...

I played it just fine with 8gb

On Win7, right?

Yes

Thought so. Fuck Win10 and its bloat.

>even at low settings
are you retarded? graphical settings only change how much graphical resources are being used, the game should use the same amount of ram irregardless of your settings, the only thing i could imagine changing it would be resolution and texture quality, but those two things usually rely on vram.

x64 Win10 uses 2 gigs. That's the same as Win7 x64.

>division

Maybe pick a non-dead on arrival generic turd person shooter game instead.

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Just don't wear wool when building a PC and you'll be fine

Carpets are more dangerous

is 1333mhz good in 2019? just curious

should be 1337mhz

Older CPUs don't really care that much about RAM speed, at least not in games. Coffee Lake and Ryzen CPUs do though

Older cpus have been less hz sensitive, newer ones can utilise the speed to a much larger extent. If youre building a new machine you should check out ram overclocking benchmarks.

i've had 32gb ram for three years already. Yea Forums has always been behind the curve because you're all ignorant about computer hardware & software. every time a PC building thread comes around literally everyone of you projects your total ignorance in the topic by just telling each other to buy cheaper parts, as if spending less money is somehow better than getting the parts you actually want. ever heard of a thing called patience?

i bet most of you are still using windows 7 and 1080p monitors. pathetic.

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>1080p
Of course I do. It's the only choice if you want 240hz. 4k is a meme.

Brainlet here, why is this a bad thing?

stop bloating you windows you fucking retard. most the retards who have similar complain is because they bloat their OS hard drive with useless shit that eats the RAM

what do you mean? the ram? you want dual channel and that only works if you use specific ram slots, mostly the 2th and the 4th slot. you don't put a graphics card into the bottom slot because it's connected with less lanes which means you're not getting the full performance

looks like an unoptimized game. I can't count how many new games these days have memory leaks. FUCK THIS SHIT.

Well, it's enough for me since I have no intention of playing whatever the fuck Division is

I have 6
AMA

>playing ubisoft games
Please tell me you don't actually do this.

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Its either shit tier optimalization or they fucked it up completely and memory leaks happen

>being this new
the RAMlet cutoff was set at 12gigs years ago, lad

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the first line of psps even. 2k/3k and beyond had almost 3 times the RAM of the wii

>i've never actually been on /g/: the post

16GB only became neccesary last year. BFV, Horizon 4 are what i noticed taking up a tonne of RAM. You're aliteral retard if you bought more than 16GB before last year.
>i bet most of you are still using windows 7 and 1080p monitors
Call me when 4k 144hz exists and we have GPUs that can do it.

8 gigs has been pleb tier for a couple years now. 16 gigs is standard with 32 for future proofing.

>phenom 2 1100t
>HD6950
>4gb ram
>still run everything just fine
Obsolescence is a meme.

RAM is RAM
you just fucked up.
more size is better than "Gaming" RAM.

I just recently upgraded to 16 GB and have yet to see a game use more than 8.5.

Oh no, a shitty Ubisoft shooter that nobody plays uses a lot of RAM. I'm so suprised and shocked.

you're a retard congrats

>muum bring more ice to the bathtub, i'll be playing witcher

I cheaped out and went 16 when i built my rig thus year but I plan on going to 32 within the next year just to future proof since it's not exactly expensive.

gotta flex on those poorfags

Unfortunately yes. Win10 is a MASSIVE resource hog, especially when it wants to update in the background. That is compared to Win7 and the like.

Nah man it runs an ice cold 65c.
Perfectly safe operating temp for the hardware.

You do know that there's 4 slots on a mobo? Occupy two sticks for 16, buy two more and stick'em in when you need it.

So you took a picture of a sysadmin's PC specs to flex on Yea Forums. Good boy

>not having 16gb since 2010

Ok, so say if you only had 8 gigs of ram. You don't think that all of that ram is going to your game, do you? Especially not with the amount of ram chrome and windows 10 consumes. You're lucky to have 4 gigs left for vidya. 16 is only the standard because it guarantees that you'll have enough ram left over to play games

I don't understand anything about RAM quality or even different types. Like what the hecks the difference between DDR2/3/4 anyways. Either way all the games I play still run at plain old 8GB so I'm gonna get two sticks of 8 and call it a day.

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i play div2 on high/medium with 12 gb of ram, a 1060 and an i5. i capped my frames at 60 and it's almost always constant. you probably have some russian gayporn virus, i don't know what you did to fuck your pc up but it unironically works on my shit machine

>Like what the hecks the difference between DDR2/3/4 anyways
Data transfer rate. DDR4 memory is fast enough that modern processors can leverage it to boost their own performance significantly.

Same here.
My MOBO can handle 32GB, though the CPU fan is in front of the 1st slot and I could only use 16GB.

downloadmoreram.com/

Weird. I currently have 5.8 occupied and my browser only takes 1.3gb of that. I do have Battlenet open though

>tfw single channel
How big of a difference does it make?

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>intel cpu
user....
that's the first thing you need to replace

Depends on the CPU and task. It absolutely fucking cripples Ryzen in video editing and compression. But it doesn't do much for games on a old sandy bridge.

Most games don't need 4GB let alone 8GB. And anything over 12 is high end.

16GB ram and up as a standard would have several drawbacks and unnecessary consequences, not just from a profit margin, but for optimization issues. The more RAM a system has, the harder it is to optimize a game for a larger userbase with varying amounts of the stuff. Imagine you were designing a game and you needed it to run on all kinds of machines within specific hardware margins: increasing a standard like RAM only makes it harder for devs.

This is why games are launched with shitty optimization tools sometimes. Even with 64GB's of ram, the game can still run like shit. You'll notice this problem frequently with triple A PC games, and even some low-brow titles.

My last PC was 7. I closed firefox, discord (fucking 400 MB of RAM), and used the basic theme. It was not ideal, but I could play all my vidya fine. I don't know why 10 is so so bloated, this is the LTSC version too.

12GB is actually the bare minimum for BOTW. The highest I've seen the game use is 8GB. Windows uses 2GB for itself. So that's 10GB used and 2GB free.

LMAO, did some child make that? I routinely use >32 GB for simple hobby projects.

>specifically test budget build on unoptimized ubisoft trash
>this is somehow proving 8GB isn't just fine
Keep in mind this is the same company that published siege, an online only fps game, that uses 70GB of bloat just to function. Meanwhile overwatch despite all horrible flaws has more gameplay functionality and great graphics at just 20GB file size.

It's stupid.

It's tantamount to asking your buyers to have a high end video card. Why do your customers need to buy the best video card, you're designing the game, create a reasonable margin to play in. The price isn't the problem, it's literally the mark of a lazy developer.

>he uses his PC for productive tasks
Get out, normalfag.

Why do people say that Windows 10 uses up a lot of RAM, it literally uses the same 2GB as Windows 7 x64

>the turdvision 2

play better (optimised) games, shiteater

this infographic is like 4 years old
anyway, by today's standards, more than 16 is tryhard or 4k video editor tier

individual ram sticks are getting pretty beefy nowadays so even if you have a moderately recent computer with only a couple slots, it can probably be bumped up to 32GB of ram easily. I bought a hunk of shit walmart laptop with 4GB ram with only a single extra slot, added an 8GB stick and now I can pretty much do everything I'd really need to. I'll probably replace it with a 16GB stick some time to extend its life. RAM is by far the easiest and cheapest upgrade you can do for a computer, so it's not like you're dropping fucking $2,000 on a video card.

Especially in the integrated graphics/laptop sense, ram goes a long way cause half of it will be turned into VRAM for video games or graphic intensive things, so with my 12GB setup i get 6GB RAM + 6GB VRAM.

the only necessary thing when upgrading ram is making sure they run at the same speed, cause it will only run as fast as the slowest stick.

Posting asians is cheating. Their kids can already do nuclear physics.

>mfw still using 2+1gb single channel DDR2 ram

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you are a little late.
16gb has been the standard for at least 2 years now.

>Not having 64gb

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>i actually think that video games are the only thing that use RAM
do you also close your browser and reboot before launching games or close all but one of your 20 game launchers or other things poor people do to justify using outdated hardware?

>mfw 8 GB and can run Persona 5, BoTW, with every shader already cached.
Stay mad :)

>16g
>waterfox, photoshop open up
>new session
>10 tabs
>3-4 Yea Forums threads, couple youtube videos one of which is playing
>pc starts feeling sluggish
>check ram
>5.5gb

That's how it's fucking SUPPOSED to be.

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You have to tell your computer to utilize your ram.

Especially if you're using Windows. It won't automatically cascade the extra capacity or use the extra speed. Regedit and some tweaks make it necessary.

>parents just randomly come across free 16 gigabytes of gaymer ram after supposedly known thief friends come to our house
hmm well now i can play quake champions so ram is definitely a bigger deal than i thought it was

What games do you play?

You have a 16GB GPU then?

>have 8gb ram
>720 monitor
>i5 2nd, rx 470
>bought PC for about 150 bucks
>all games work fine
>download battlefield
>crashes
>upgrade to 16 gb

fuck dice

I meant waterfox was hogging 5.5 and I was sub 3 available.

Oh shit. That too... I think you can even limit the amount of resources programs use specifically.

>turn off services in accordance to the /g/ wiki
>600 megabyte idle in windows 7
>400 megabytes if you actually use an up to date operating system like xubuntu

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retards downscaling 8k images to fit their 1080p TN panels "because it looks better"

>using SSDs for any media besides games
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

You think this has an impact?
Code grows with systems
Its is inevitable

Dude, sometimes it's necessary.
Want to experiment?
Go download Zestiria, don't play it because it's a fucking piece of shit, just walk around at 1080p.
The texture shimmering will literally have a dick come out the monitor to rape your eye sockets.
The only way to fix that is gedosato or sgssaa. And gedosato gets rid of it complitely at like, 4.5k.

>showing a screenshot to prove ram
holy cringe

>been playing this game for hundreds of hours with my buddy who has only 8GB RAM
>retarded OP shows up
oh yeah im sure next time he boots up the game he wont be able to play just because you are a retard lmao

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>only have 8GB
>get Forza Horizon 3 because it was easy to pirate
>doesn't even get past the first splash screen unless I close every background process
>when it does the actual game chugs and stutters like fucking crazy and is borderline unplayable
>try GTA5 as a sort of benchmark
>RAM usage maxes out again if everything in the background isn't closed and stutters exactly the same
Honestly RAM sticks are relatively cheap in my area, I'm more worried about this putting it on non-adjacent slots shit you're saying. I think my Mobo only has two slots anyway so I'm assuming it should be straightforward.

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>preset settings
>1440p
OP confirmed retard
based as fuck outing himself so much

If it has 4 slots, take the second and fourth slot, run Speccy and see if your RAM runs in dual channel or single channel, if it's single channel use the first and third slot.
Or, alternatively, just read the fucking motherboard manual.

Thank goodness I don't play shit games then.

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umm, yes? Per GB its much cheaper to buy SSD than mechanical. Where im from anyway.

I've opened it up several times to clean and I've only seen it have two slots directly next to each other, but I remember either Speccy or CPU-Z saying there are 3 slots with 2 unused. Either the software is fucking up or the third mystery slot is in a seemingly unrelated spot on the mobo that I haven't bothered to look at twice.
I'm gonna go double check the manual once I get off work, I didn't really bother to read the RAM specifications because I only had the one stick so it's not like it mattered.

>tfw 4 sticks of ram so all slots get used.
I have 2 2g sticks and 2 4g sticks for a total of 12g. Currently they are stacked 2244, should I change it to 2424?

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Is this b8?

Are you actively seeing your friend's screen or are you just assuming his performances is as good as yours?

Buy a fucking IP panel, peasant.

finally the 8 gigs on my rx480 will be put to some use

Should I buy two 8gb or a single 16gb of ram? What brand is good?

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>32gb with shitty timings / speed
>not 16gb at 3600 with fucklow timings so everything is snappy at desktop and in vidya

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It's b9

youtube.com/watch?v=m4IVxcanx14

lol, stop using a computer and start playing a instrument

Two sticks for dual channel. Brands are irrelevant.

64gb its the standar faggot

If you have free ram slots on your motherboard, you do not have enough ram.

>user doesn't have the same amount of vram as system ram
Get on my level

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i got 32000 cl 15

kiss my ass.

2x8 with the tightest timings that fit into your budget at a given clockspeed.

disingenuous. uses a $500 videocard with 8GB of GDDR6 ram built into it, so it's actually
>16GB
>24GB
>40GB

Compilers already use assembly level optimization but it is still up to the programmer to respect the coding standards and I bet those fuckers don't try to respect them (or can't due to time imposed by publishers).

IMC's really, really do not like dense memory configurations at tight timings and clocks. Those mega speed kits you seed advertised for Intel (i.e 4000mhz plus)? They basically don't work in real terms as you need a cpu capable of handling it (lol silicon lottery) and a motherboard capable of supporting it.

CL15 at 3200mhz isn't particularly tight these days. You should look into the tweaking and guides people have done for memory (a lot of recent ones will focus on ryzen) as a good kit can get down to CL12 (or lower for benchmark runs) if your cpu can handle it.

I play piano. Any modern composer uses a computer extensively, though. I've written full orchestral pieces that've easily taken up over 10 gigs of ram just to keep the project open.

Thats not how ram works user. vram doesn't fill up because system ram gets full (but system ram WILL fill if you run out of vram to a degree as games will often cache into system memory).

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at least ram prices are now stable and affordable
not many months ago they had gone up like 4x for no reason at all

Doesn''t have to run a bloated browser.

>get your own computer made for you by your boss
neato

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1?

wat

Integrated circuits are explicitly designed to use ram as VRAM, so they're truthfully one in the same. If anything the VRAM on a dedicated videocard is faster than standard RAM sticks, and that's the only significant difference. Without VRAM, it will use RAM instead. If you got 8GB of VRAM, then that's getting used up before regular RAM. That test would have played similarly with only 2x2GB RAM installed because the brunt of everything is being offloaded onto the videocard.

i got a new laptop with 2x4gb of RAM. it's OK in most games. the new modern warfare beta is using close to all of it, though, and i think it caused a blue screen (something about memory management)

i may upgrade in the future.

>2019
>2400mhz ram

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I've been playing with 8GB for 7 years, with my 660ti, and i5 3570k. Currently playing Borderlands 3 on high settings.

I feel you, the best choice would be to you to try the LTSC version, it's like night and day between that and the normal version of 10

Slow down there horsey - you are wrong and need to revise your theories.

> If anything the VRAM on a dedicated videocard is faster than standard RAM sticks
While vram and typical system ram have different priorities to what determines speed (in a very, very simplistic way vram is more about raw bandwidth and system ram tends to prefer lower latency) its easy to say vram is faster because its physically closer to the processor that is going to be using it.

>Without VRAM, it will use RAM instead
No. GPUs and CPUs do different things (shocking I know) and a cpu related instruction is - and cannot - use vram as its memory pool. GPUs can cache onto system memory but that is slooooooooooooow as shit and basically non viable.

>That test would have played similarly with only 2x2GB RAM installed because the brunt of everything is being offloaded onto the videocard.
That sentence is complete gibberish.

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...at 30 fps 1280x720.

Single channel memory is outdated technology. Always get two.
G.Skill is good, Corsair is good, HyperX (Kingston) is good.