If Valve loses the lawsuit, it will be fucking amazing!
>can sell all your digital games from the Playstation, Xbox, and Nintendo stores
>can sell all your games on Ubisoft store, Epic games store, Blizzard Battle Net, Origin, and other stores
>G2A will be put out of business
>market is flooded with tons of cheap AAA games
Fuck dudes, I hope they rule against Valve.
The best part about this it that it'll dismantle both Valve's current and Epic's potential monopoly on the market. Fuck monopolies.
They might also just decide to not conduct the same business in france if for some reason it got to that
>Every game company not conducting business in the entire EU
LMAO
Valve makes up a tiny fraction of the market. Way more games are sold on the playstation and xbox and nintendo stores.
the only viable way to make this work is either Valve going all out free catalogue, so that it is truly a subscription service, and not this clusterfuck, or compensating the devs for people playing their games, like the spotify model
or the dev gets a cut from the game trade
other than this, it is not a big deal if you take into account the real value of a game is the sales price, or even worse, the keysite price, that is usually 40-50 cents after 2 years
ofc journos will push the rationale that people buy braid for 20e in 2020, but that is only retarded or unaware people
the big thing about this, in my opinion, is that Stadia is coming, and it renders the valve model obsolete, while Epic is gifting games like no big deal because they are paying devs for giving the games away
once again, we are going into the subscription model and artist compensation of spotify, only halfway through, with Stadia and Epic
the sky is the limit
Modified business, which would probably be the same as what we have now but worse in some way to get around the loophole
Isn't this only in France though?
it's all going to be subscription only in 5-10 years anyway, this just accelerates it
>so that it is truly a subscription service
Oh great! one of those.
I do not buy games that often, even paying $9.99 a month would be really fucking bad and that would be to simply maintain my account and I bet DLC is not included into these deals (Does it?)
I would understand if Valve model changed for necessity because a better, more successful model had emerged. It pisses me off it is because of the eternal cuck legislation, it feels vidya is getting worse.
This.
>M-MUH DIGITAL MONOPOLY TOTALITARIAN STATE IS R-REALLY G-GONNA HAPPEN GOYS!!!
JEW COPE LEVELS OVER 6 MILLION
>Stadia is coming, and it renders the valve model obsolete
as much as people, americans on data caps in particular, want to downplay Stadia, the business model is the future, in terms of licensing and how to compensate devs
every other retailer is offering vaults of free games up the wahzoo, while google is just offering destiny 2 and full priced titles "in the future"
the day they start to include a vault of games in the service, it is over, not because of the user, but because google will compensate the devs on playtime
they can literally obliterate the entire market, by paying devs themselves, the same Epic is paying millions to devs during the first year, just to get the exclusives, the spotify model
I am not defending the model in the slightest, but after playing on geforce now for a year, I can honestly consider paying 15e a month to play on ultra 4k
exciting times for vidya
and don't forget microsoft gamepass on pc, that is giving like 100 games for 1$ right now, and they just added dead cells, igavania, gears 5...
I actually like Valve though
>americans on data caps in particular
I rarely hear of fellow Americans having a data cap desu - it's almost always the Europeans and Australians I hear this from. Also, it will be impossible for countless people to utilize Stadia due to either data caps, UL/DL speeds, or both, which is a particularly hilarious regression in this day and age: not being able to play a single player game you bought due to internet-related reasons. Not just temporarily being unable to play it due to, for example, having to wait a few hours for files to download, but being locked into a permanent state of not being able to enjoy the game to its fullest, had its data not been hosted on some faraway server
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>the business model is the future, in terms of licensing and how to compensate devs
How so? Also, even if it's beneficial for them, that doesn't mean that users will flock to Stadia when it's a downgrade in so many ways (see the 3 videos listed above)
>every other retailer is offering vaults of free games up the wahzoo
Yes, Steam certainly does offer thousands of free games, and paid games at really generous discounts on a regular basis
>while google is just offering destiny 2 and full priced titles "in the future"
You seem to be making a case against Stadia now
>they can literally obliterate the entire market
Specifically, how so? Do you mean that they can achieve market/user dominance by copying the Epic route and paying for timed/permanent exclusives?
>giving like 100 games for 1$ right now
I remember 10, 20, and even 50+ game packs on CDs and such when I was a kid. They all had two things in common: quantity over quality, and they were cheap - which always ended up serving as a reminder that you get what you pay for
>I rarely hear of fellow Americans having a data cap desu
then lurk more
the only people known for having data caps are lards here, thanks to TV lobbying.
>How so? Also, even if it's beneficial for them, that doesn't mean that users will flock to Stadia when it's a downgrade in so many ways (see the 3 videos listed above)
I recommend you take your time playing on Geforce Now, and judge for yourself
>You seem to be making a case against Stadia now
What I am telling you is that Google has not included game offers, other than destiny 2, and once they offer a vault, things will ramp up a lot
My point is the compensation model to devs, based on playtime/exclusive deals/whatever, because ownership is something people are moving on from
>giving like 100 games for 1$ right now
the current games they are offering is full of new stuff and AAA titles
I think you may have a bad case of journo parroting
pay a buck for gamepass or sign up for geforce now, and get your own experience
>Continued
>Do you mean that they can achieve market/user dominance by copying the Epic route and paying for timed/permanent exclusives?
This logic applies to Steam as well; nothing is stopping Valve from exercising this option, should they so choose. Also, as a reminder, even if Stadia ends up being beneficial for certain devs/publishers, that doesn't mean that users will flock to Stadia when it's a direct downgrade to other services in so many ways
I'm glad that it's working out for you in that it allows you to play on ultra 4k for $180 every year, and you're okay with paying $900+ over a period of 5+ years for that instead of paying a far lower price to permanently have this ability for all of your games instead of only the games that you bought through their service, but surely you understand that all of this doesn't have mass appeal, right? Why would I, or most other people, want to pay a drastically higher price to be able to play at so-and-so resolution & graphical settings *only* for specific games, and having to pay full price for games while paying a $180 a year fee just to access them, instead of just buying a better graphics card, saving several hundred dollars, and having that ability for *all* of my games?
>ultra 4k for $180 every year,
what? it's free, retard, and you play your own library
why you keep parroting journos lies, lad? are you retarded?
the amount of lies of this shit, for the love of god
>I recommend you take your time playing on Geforce Now, and judge for yourself
Fair enough. I'm gonna head out after this post to do that
>Google has not included game offers, other than destiny 2, and once they offer a vault
Google stated that they will not be going with the "Netflix model" of paying a subscription fee to access free games, so I doubt they'll offer any sort of vault in the foreseeable future. After trying to find info on this just now, all I could find was a recent article saying that Google won't offer free trials for (console-type) games at the launch of Stadia, but may/may not consider it in the future
>the current games they are offering is full of new stuff and AAA titles
Fair enough. I checked it out and not a single game they're offering appealed to me (or I already had them in my Steam library which, unlike this service you're telling me to get, does not force me to pay a monthly fee to access the games I own), with the exception of Hydro Thunder. I was interested in buying it, but obviously I'm not just going to buy something blindly, so I read about it first. Turns out they couldn't be bothered to include multiplayer for it, so that ended up being a hard pass for me. I'm just not into generic AAA games, nor the types of generic indie shit that always get shoveled onto consoles. See for yourself; this lineup is absolutely abysmal in my opinion:
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>I think you may have a bad case of journo parroting
On the contrary, journos shill "games as a service," Stadia, and all of this other money-grubbing bullshit like their jobs depend on it - because they do. Also, you may wish to view those videos I linked in my post, which you clearly didn't watch before replying. For someone who supposedly cares about things like journo parroting, you're doing a very good job of being willfully ignorant of the points & proof I've posted...
>>ultra 4k for $180 every year,
>what? it's free, retard, and you play your own library
Calm down, child. By Stadia's own admission, 4k is only available for the annual fee of $180 a year. Also, you can only play "your" library if your internet connection allows it.
And you may wish to view those videos I linked in my post, which you clearly didn't watch before replying. For someone who supposedly cares about things like journo parroting, you're doing a very good job of being willfully ignorant of the points & proof I've posted...
Please point out 3
You know just because you can legally sell a digital license doesn't mean Valve has to provide you a way to do it through their right? All this will do is allow people to sell their steam accounts without getting banned.
>Continued
And now I'm off to uphold my end of the bargain: trying out Geforce Now. But after seeing how piss-poor MS game pass was, I don't have very high hopes for this
Reminder that Stadia will be dead within 3 years, 4 at the absolute most, just like the vast majority of services & things Google launches
>child
hahahaha
I was talking about geforce now, turbotard
>Please point out 3
>4k resolution and 5.1 surround sound audio included free
that is like saying I have a ferrari because I saw one parked on the street
>no system fps lock
who wrote this? hahahah
>free
it is like you forget you have to buy the games on steam
>controller requires smart phone to work
what? hahahaha
It is like the guy that wrote this garbage can't even grasp you have to use your own hardware and pay for the games on Steam, while Stadia makes you pay for playtime on their hardware
not sure if this is the work of a literal 12 yo, or a journo who can't into tech
^ The filename was Stadia5, Data problems; such a huge amount of data will need to be streamed that monthly data caps will kick in fast as fuck, literally within a few hours for some people
btw. Just thought I'd point that out for your benefit
I tried Geforce Now and as soon as somebody starts watching Netflix, the game crashes.
It doesn't matter though. The money printers won't stop supporting business models like stadia. All your information on their computers is progress. They won't have to snoop any more. They'll just have it.
Alright Timmy, it's time for bed now. You can defend the multi-billionaires, focus solely on ad hominem attacks, refuse to look at the pictures, quotes, and video proof of the people who disagree with you, and continue throwing a temper tantrum tomorrow morning, okay?
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you confirmed me you are parroting blogs
you literally take every fact and defend the opposite, ignoring the big picture again and again
the whole narrative about google closing stuff is the funniest... it is one of the biggest company in existence, and they create projects that then lead to adding those features to other projects
that is literally how they work
more blogger shit
hahahahaha
once again, go play some cloud games, get a gamepass, get your head out of journos and lerddit ass
you will enjoy a lot of stuff
Is there a Stadia hard mode where you can only buy games at midnight on a full moon or something?
>I can honestly consider paying 15e a month to play on ultra 4k
Why would you want to pay for that basic feature which has always been free and tied to your own PC's capabilities? You're literally saying you want to pay $180+ every year for a company to take away something your PC can already do, then sell that ability back to you
Next, are you going to say you want to pay 15e every month for Geforce Now, Stadia, or some other service to give you permission to use your computer's mouse? lmao
The absolute state of Stadia and Stadia-like service shills. Pathetic
Video Game Crash Number 2
>Buying AAA games
>I'm going to ignore every point that proves me wrong
Are you genuinely underage? lmao
>Data problems; such a huge amount of data will need to be streamed that monthly data caps will kick in fast as fuck, literally within a few hours for some people
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Have fun attempting to play unplayable games after you hit your data cap within literally just a few hours of gameplay in a single day, dumbass
what if I don't want to buy a PC, and play on my smart tv? I use geforce Now all the time
it is the same song again and again: a dude that has never played on any cloud or vault service parrots journos and lerddit narrative thinking he is on the right
the difference is, you can play on the cloud for free, or for a feed, and cancel any time
you are taking your $1k pc for granted
You might be talking to the wrong user.
>hurr durr I am losing my games if stadia closes
nobody is telling you to buy those games, you can play your steam uplay and egs library on geforce now for free right freaking now, but you are too retarded to try, and prefer to watch, like and subscribe your youtubers
worst of all, you are probably a patreon
>Imagine paying a monthly subscription and the streaming is shit.
>Then you have to deal with customer service just to get a good hour of gameplay.
Monthly subscription is too much of a headache. Theres alot of shady shit that can pull of with that.
I agree with that... just cancel the subscription
everybody agrees the bad thing about a subscription is that you don't have ownership, but the good thing is the lack of attachment, and how you can jump from one to the next in a couple of clicks
people tend to get married and shill one service or the other, when they can enjoy every service
one month I am on netflix... if I get tired... let's go to other... it is so damn simple
streaming will render platform wars obsolete, because you stop having to buy and support your own hardware
it is not rocket science
Welcome our subscription overlords then
>remove the line in the ToS where it says that you aren't allowed to sell your steam account
Problem solved
sometimes i read posts like these and spend way too much time trying to figure out if it's a retard or a shitposter. either way you need a break from Yea Forums user.
not him, but that is true
the console business is way bigger than PC
a PC successful title sells 500K during its first month, and it sells millions on consoles
there is a lot of normies with playstations and "nintendos"
>entire EU
France. German court rejected similar lawsuit.
And French ruling is unlikely to spread, or even hold, because it's based on arbitrary expanding definition of ownership to items rented via subscription, which is pants on head retarded.
Though from what I understand, precedents have no importance in European courts, and every judge can decide whatever he wants, which is why you can have many different rulings on same issue and they are all considered valid.
reminder the French fine is pocket change to valve
This.
Games as a service is a disgusting, anti-consumer concept. You can be sure that all the companies will start heading in the direction of Google Stadia if this ruling does end up becoming relevant to all. Hopefully it is limited to France, or just the EU, so that not all of the west is butt fucked by it.
free subscription to steam service, provides access to currently F2P games, expires after a year and needs to be renewed
currently paid games will be "expanded catalog" you need to pay extra to have access for
this ruling is so shaky, above is all it takes to get around it. Literally just rewording things
t. has no fucking clue what monopoly means
>all publishers move to streaming games
oh boy i cant wait
sounds plausible, but it still does not take into account current bought licenses, that valve argues are a subscription
that's correct, absolutely. i was just commenting on user's need to be pedantic when it was clear the person he was replying to was talking about the pc market.
>Stadia is coming
oh, I sure can't wait for ping drops and packet loss in my singleplayer games
>has a variety of choices
>muhnopoly
Holy shit you're retarded
>resell games
>all those cheap games flooding the market as they undercut each other
I'm all for it. I'll pick up those bundle games for pennies each.
>DDOS stadia servers
>can't play singleplayer games
>These multiple competing companies hold a monopoly
Consumer right courts in EU work differently. They call business in violation to abide ruling by specific date, after which they will start slapping fines on it.
Don't care non americans can die in hot fire. Hey just going with the fact that americans are hated no matter what so hey i'll join you guys FUCK YOUR THIRD WORLD SHIT HOLES GET NUKED!!!