I have some info on the upcoming Terry Bogard DLC fighter pass for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.
During development our division was invited to take a sneak preview of Terry Bogard's moveset. here is what i can list of what is moveset will be like.
Neutral Special - Power Wave
Side Special - Burning Knuckle
Down Special - Power Geyser
Recover/Up Special - Rising Tackle
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what about pranked terry
Inputs suck ass
Most believable leak on Yea Forums, only because you didn't go into "and now, the other DLC characters; Geno, Skyrim Man, President Obama"
>More fighting game inputs instead of doing something interesting for his gimmick
>Not making a slightly different animation for his final smash when he's using the alt. skin like how male/female inklings have different idles, or making an animation that'd fit both
>doing a power geyser input on smash bros
kek
too sexual for smash bros
HEY C'MON C'MON
BABY BABY
OKAY
>believing some random anonymous doing the same "hurr leak" shit people have been doing for over a decade now
>Terry Turn's his Fatal Fury cap backwards (sorry due to this a Mark of the Wolves alt will not be included)
maybe we'll get his KoF14 getup alt instead
>Final Smash - Buster Wolf - Terry Turn's his Fatal Fury cap backwards (sorry due to this a Mark of the Wolves alt will not be included) and lunges into the enemy with fierce strength, almost covering the entire Battlefield Distance (around 60%'s worth) and will then proceed to punch Multiple explosive punches against the enemy before launching them away.
Why do you lie to us. You don't even know what a proper goddamn Buster Wolf looks like
they probably added to it for extra oomph. you never know.
Two goddamned months, I don't know if I can make it, I want my Terry.
Us Banjofags made it, you can too. He'll be here before you know it.
That's the thing, waiting for Banjo was killing me too.
Ken and Ryu's moves are all game accurate. Terry has no multi-hit Supers save High Angle Geyser and he still doesn't even spin his cap for it. It doesn't matter, Power Geyser being down+B with mechanics that don't make sense already shows it's bullshit
Since none of the other DLC characters are remotely like each other, why is everyone so convinced Terry is going to be a 1:1 Echo Fighter clone of Ryu?
>Final Smash - Buster Wolf - Terry Turn's his Fatal Fury cap backwards (sorry due to this a Mark of the Wolves alt will not be included) and lunges into the enemy with fierce strength, almost covering the entire Battlefield Distance (around 60%'s worth) and will then proceed to punch Multiple explosive punches against the enemy before launching them away.
you've decidedly not even described anything but atatatatata instead of the actual buster wolf
you might as well be describing one of andy's supers
you are retarded
Down Special - would not be Power Geyser and would instead of something like Crack Shoot or Around the World or whatever that move is called.
the only things that matter are if he'll have a female alt and if he shouts his moves out in engrish
>Around the World
what
Memes and the general need to shitpost over actually thinking shit through.
The latter is guaranteed since he does it in his trailer.
It goes around the world just la la la-la la
This is the best leak I've ever seen
No bullshit, brief explanation
How will Power Wave work in the air OP?
shut up atc geh serius
no really what did you mean
This.
The moment I saw there was no Crack Shoot, I knew it was fake.
>This is the best leak I've ever seen
spoken like a guy who doesn't even know fatal fury so you don't know what he even fucked up on
they figure out movesets before actually developing the character genius.
That user doesn't know the names of Terry's moves, there is no "Around The World".
Oh, OK.
Nah, I've been an SNK fan for many years and Terry has been my man from Day 1
This is all pretty good in terms of moveset and accurate to how he'll play
I expected Simon to have a completely different moveset when I predicted him, but was kinda disappointed by his simplicity, so due to that, I just expect anything
>bayonetta, zero suit samus
Ryu/Ken's most fundamental and iconic moves are integrated into universal inputs where you can use normal or special attack, since even though there's no difference between punch and kick, it doesn't matter since hadoken is quarter-circle forward, and tatsumaki is quarter-circle backwards.
You could conceivably do this with Terry, but how could you distnguish between Burn Knuckle and Crack Shoot unless one was restricted to A and the other to B?
i feel like since it's a totally ground-spark based move, and look strange in the air, he'll replace it with another move in the air
like powerdunk
well duh, i'm wondering what he DID mean to describe, if he at least knew the animation of the move
there's a guy who already made a decent chart for a movelist that would sound more credible, but i don't remember if he accounted for aerial neutral B
not sure if he also mentioned gentleman which could theoretically be power charge because it ends a combo chain for him from real bout special on up to motw
then how do you not criticize 1) the names 2) the description of buster wolf 3) the fact that power geyser is a down special when it could be round wave or crack shoot or even power charge, and power geyser is a desperation attack and has never ever been a normal special and it is not slow to come out
also congrats, any dork can enumerate four moves, claim it is a leak
but this is a bad one and i don't believe you know terry as well as you think you do
ken has issues too, but also keep in mind crackshoot was originally a reverse TK motion
Some of Terry’s moves (which include some of the ones in OP’s “leak”) are also more complex than Ryu’s from an input perspective. I really, really doubt Sakurai is going to do the input command route for Terry’s full moveset. It was a cute little experiment for one fighter and his Echo, but when you’re trying to convince people to buy your fighter’s pass (especially with a character who is definitely not as well known with a lot of people) you’re going to need to appeal to as many customers as possible. Feedback on Ryu has been pretty vocal about how unfun his inputs are for the Smash environment.
Burn Knuckle shows him crouching which makes me think he might have some command inputs but that also might be part of the canned animation itself.
>No Crack Shoot down B
Just fuck my shit up, OP.
nah, the canned input is the arms outward thing which he usually does
>fighting game character has moveset ripped from fighting game.
Who woulda thunk.
Which is why Ryu and Ken were shit and bad ideas, we've played them in countless actual fighting games, leave Smash Bros for all the characters who aren't in fighting games.
>Original Inputs
That wouldnt fucking work for Smash since half of them are charge inputs
Stop bringing up facts and reality, you fool.
here's how I see it
up smash - Heat Up Geyser, an uppercut with a Power Geyser explosion
forward smash - Round Wave, the close up power wave with a big but limited range
down smash - Fire Kick, a sweep kick that can be followed up with an upward kick
B - Power Wave/Power Dunk - crawling projectile that turns into an angled punch attack in air
Side B - Burn Knuckle - high priority dash move that doesn't rot in distance
Up B - Rising Tackle - self-explanatory
Down B - Crack Shoot - angled kick attack that breaks shields and carries momentum
they literally change every iteration though
>ends up playing differently from typical smash characters
>WE PLAYED THEM ALREADY DAMN IT
>since half of them are charge inputs
>terry
>half of specials being charge
and things that don't apply to terry bogard for 500, alex
oh yeah forgot Power Charge being the dash attack, would be hilarious if they also turned it to a rekka
Good luck, smash babies
>using a nu-desperation move
>not the classic power geyser
They play exactly how we've played them since the 90s, they're boring as fuck in Smash because they're nothing new or interesting. Just because nobody in Smash plays like them doesn't make them unique or amazing.
you forgot the part where he's not just Terry but a combination of Terry, Kyo, and Ryo in a Pokemon Trainer style character to match the KoF style
user they literally play differently compared to other Smash characters, that's the idea with them.
>he plays them like in fighting games they come out in their games
>those games that are focused in health bars than tossing the enemy out of the ring
>No crack shoot
>No buy
>Kyo, Ryo
No itd be a good idea to make it characters that arent so fucking similar
>Kyo
>Ryo
>similar
what the fuck am I reading
Crack Shoot will be his forward smash. His down smash will be Power Geyser while up smash will be Rising Tackle. Up special will be Power Dunk and down special will be the charging up meter for Max Mode type thing from Extra Mode in 98 and the earlier games.
>not a combination of Terry, Joe, and Mai
>how to tell someone never played Terry outside of the capcom games
You don't need to believe this fake leak to know the command inputs are there. We already witnessed two versions of power wave in the few seconds of footage we saw.
i actually think that's harder to do than classic power geyser
>two versions of power wave
?
>literally two half circles
>hard
also my point is they'll pull something from the classic than that
>*bodegas behind you*
>"He he, moetaro..."
Power wave usually always have two version. The normal power wave acts as a ground running projectile attack that goes full screen. The other version however goes only half-way of the screen, can knock back on hit and will eat other projectiles even if its a bar/super projectile.
it's not even halfway, sometimes it's just in front of terry, like his own version of kououken
I've played Terry more than most people in this thread and dropped him quickly for Heavy D and Vanessa in 98 and 02 respectively. Just because those are also his specials doesn't mean they will restrict them to specials in Smash, especially since he's had far more to use than Ryu and Ken but less normals.
>His down smash will be Power Geyser
>Not the fucking Round Wave
Chirst people just go download an emulator and play the fucking games for five minutes. This is ridiculous.
that's my point, notice how Ryu's fsmash is the donkey kick?
Both waves he did went off-screen, how can you extrapolate anything like that?
it would make more sense as a rekka because it's part of a combo chain in real bout special and a rekka in motw, dunno how far sakurai would dive into the series though
his dash attack in rbs at least is a punting kick move
side smash would probably be his qcf+D from rb
fatal fury 1 didn't even have desperation moves so you might not even get power geyser or busta wof outside a final smash, but if sakurai plays his cards right, you would at least get a meter for p.power/s.power
he'd probably use the real bout style meter tho where you get p.power when you're at high percent, which gives you overheat ("triple") geyser
he also has a launcher move fire kick which was in rb2, i never really played rb2 much so i don't know about it well
i also had to look up heatup geyser and it looks like a grounded version of high angle geyser from kof97
also seriously
youtube.com
>minute long intro
downvoted that shit, fuck you
I feel round wave makes more for a good forward smash while fire kick (a sweep kick) is a good down smash
also if he says GO BANG when he does forward smash
was talking about how originally it was just a plain tackle move, though yeah would be hilarious if it was a rekka
>The other version however goes only half-way of the screen
this version is from kof96, not from fatal fury
round wave doesn't even travel, it's just like a small ass version of power geyser
Say what you will about SNK but it is curious that they change character's movesets and iterations so much that they become "EX" variants.
>was talking about how originally it was just a plain tackle move
yeah, it is, it's done by b,f,f+C i think
I shouldn't even have to explain why you're stupid for thinking the marginally less unique one of the two would be better, though I will say I also considered down and up smash being swapped, or it even being forward smash. With tweaks each could almost fill any space.
i look like Terry irl
damn i gotta get some muscles
yet you're stupid for not realizing that power geyser isn't gonna be "slow startup to be nerfed for a regular special" instead of controlled by a condition like it typically has been since fucking fatal fury 2, where it first existed
Would be hilarious if they put a "technically anime only but also in the games move because Tung does it" where he spins with his arms.
>for a regular special
i mean smash attack
but also applies to regular special anyway
it is a desperation move with not slow startup
round wave has the proper range for a down special
sure you do max
>More fighting game inputs
Always a good thing. Smash makes my hands fall asleep, motions are unironically fun to do and make moves feel more like techniques than buttons. Ryu and Ken are more fun than 90% of the roster because they actually demand attention at the wheel.
>down special
down smash*
i'm mixing myself up even
would be hilarious if each terry alt changes the cap design, and he should finally have one that says "Super Smash Bros."
Objectively wrong. No more sexual than ZSS.
>No more sexual than ZSS.
spoken like a virgin nintenerd
>ahhh she has a tight bare belly two piece that is about the same as having your cleavage sticking out very visibly and wearing some incredibly short shorts like daisy dukes
man i swear you guys need to take those sjw guys advice and actually get some action outside of smelling like a smash player eh
>"Fatal Fury"
>"King of Fighters"
>"Hungry Wolf"
What other caps could he have? Im thinking maybe one that says Art of Fighting and another with the Garou logo. Maybe a hat that says SNK for a blue alt.
Neo Geo
>using promotional art
look at the in-game model dumb fuck. kill yourself
Bayonetta.
I fucking hate this
They usually dive pretty deep since the whole point is to celebrate the series the character comes from. The only thing I would immediately write off is the 2/3 plane combat system
Because even an S Power PG would be a ridiculously strong move for basically zero risk.
>What other caps could he have?
if i may make a suggestion
nah, you can come and try to make me though, i live in nova and i'm down for a throwdown
you win, you can take my ass
but if you lose, you'll be sorry!
btw my point is only standing more with your pic
it's like you want to lose this battle on purpose
>Because even an S Power PG would be a ridiculously strong move for basically zero risk.
smash moves aren't zero risk, at least in smash you can roll and shield and punish pretty quickly
but in real bout, once you build s or p power meter it has a limited time before it empties and you don't have it anymore, so there is also pressure to use it or it's gone in some time
but it would be especially dumb to make it a regular special or smash attack
he is not palutena, and even power geyser would outfuck palutena's vertical beam smash
The only reason this doesn't look sexy is because this game looks like garbage. She looks like a mannequin. Pranked Terry in Smash's style would pop middle school boners across the country.
>look at the in-game
>promotional
it's literally in the game's select screen and vs screens, dumbfuck
this
i swear these guys have never been exposed to real sexual stuff before, their biggest exposure is probably some cosmopolitan magazine fashion trend shit lol
Please.
so sexy
>waifufags forcing their meme terry because they lost with nakoruru
when will they learn
What did he mean by this?
It means waifufags are garbage and never win.
This is the only Pranked Terry you're getting and you're going to like it.
What do waifufags have to do with Terry?
>tranny: now i'm the cute anime girl!
>reality
ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease
imagine the lewds of Terry riding other Smash studs while wearing the vest and hat, yee haw
women don't actually like terry that much
self insert fags and closet fags like terry
>women don't actually like terry that much
Proof?
I like terry and i don't like nakoruru.
I would rather have Leona though.
female readers
Is not that a really old poll?.
So one magazine poll means all women don'r like Terry?
>old Brawl style final smash where she gets a few seconds of Riot of the Blood
Mite b cool
First time I've heard Kim was popular with women.
male readers
Meanwhile in 2018
Bruh these polls are literally old enough to drink it looks like 97 was the most recent game at the time
>Iori not at the very top
busted
Those are in 1997 btw
i didn't say women don't like him
just that not as much as other men
the one i posted is the women's poll
this is the men's pollthe one you posted doesn't slipt gender
No Leona and no Vice.
That's sad.
I thought Iori was the most popular male character in KoF. At least more popular than Kyo, which is part of why he gets more spinoffs and crossovers than him.
really hope this is Terry's Classic Mode win screen
kyo is the poster boy, he' always going to be up there because its like choosing Mario
Iori is clearly the real favorite character for women
he is sasuke before sasuke really
It is. It's from resetera according to Google, a 1997 poll.
poster boys get high votes because they're the most recognized by casuals who vote in these polls but don't know the rest of the characters
Terry is closer to the Mario, Kyo is like, the Marth or something.
well they are old polls where kyo was a more prominent character
I still like this fanmade moveset
This is a neogeo poll.
>self insert fags trying to cope with terry not being the favorite among women
sure max, you totally look like terry
>NOOOO LEMME IN I NEED TO SMASH!
I'm talking about Terry is #1 because he's the poster boy for the company, Kyo is the poster boy for one of the bigger subfranchises even though he hasn't been the star for a good while.
joker: brand new type of meter that activates him into the bar-none strongest fighter in the whole game
hero: move that opens up a brand new menu that lets you choose between 4 other moves, randomly generated from 20 moves total
banjo: new move that lets you pound your way through any other attack or damaging item/projectile (other than grab) 5 times per stock
terry: "u-uhh.... he can input........ the same way ryu could in smash 4................."
no way, i don't buy this shit. there's so many FF/KoF staples that could be brought over to smash in amazing ways (another new meter that activates new single moves, such as buster wolf/input chains (i used to play another game that incorporated this amazingly)/tfinding a way to incorporate the tag-team mechanic in his moveset, maybe by allowing other fighters to come in for a quick attack after a certain input).
terry is far and beyond the most excited i've ever been for any dlc fighter ever in a fighting game, so if it really does just end up being inputs the same way ryu/ken have, then im gonna be disappointed beyond belief and will probably never buy another piece of smash dlc ever again
married men typically are
He means for KoF, not for SNK in general. KoF was their biggest series throughout most of the 90s
Anybody of who knows anything about Terry knows his moveset writes itself just like Ryu
Fuck off.
Iori is one of the very few okay edgelords. When his powers get jacked in the Ash saga he just tells Chizuru to stop being a whiny bitch and keeps right on fucking people up
>as always, retard leakfags forget that Power Wave can’t work in midair
>still goes for the most basic bitch obvious moveset possible
>still forgets about moves like Power Dunk and Crack Shoot.
>is still pretending to know about the inner development of the character, and Sakurai’s thought process when thinking up moves
偽物とゲイ。自殺しって!
Mostly because they know not to take him too seriously so he doesn't get insufferable.
i'd say the reason why kyo has dropped down not because he stopped doing anything in the story
(i mean when was the last time terry really did anything)
but they kept changing his design. his delinquent design is obviously his best, but they couldn't be bothered to keep his headband in future deisgns
his white jacket has a cool cross undershirt at least
but his black jacket is boring. its not like he's the fonz
then his kof14 deisgn sucks really bad, he looks so bland and the jacket is ugly
Kyo was created as the kof mascot
Even so Kyo was just never really that popular overall. I think his core fans just all grew up without him. Part of the reason they soft-reset the timeline is because he was a goddamn 28 year old HS dropout by the time of the start of the Ash saga
OOF, that's some heavy gyno. Literally no difference from muscle futa.
terry fags are gay as shit
>No Max Mode
Seems like a huge omission here.
Except this is a 100% man and muscle futa are women with dicks
>しって
we already know terry's gimmick is gonna be a meter that activates new moves. he'll definitely have inputs but i suspect a basic bitch moveset by default and power dunk/crack shoot/buster wolf stuck behind the meter, and power geyser for the final smash.
or maybe power geyser for one of the meter moves and star dunk volcano is his final smash, though i'd personally rather have a garou alt over that.
just too much to deal with to give terry such a basic moveset
>we already know terry's gimmick is gonna be a meter that activates new moves
Really? When did Sakurai confirm this?
Ehh his popularity was at least legit enough back in the day for them to keep writing excuses to put his delinquent version back in for a while or to include it as DLC. Problem is he's based off of 70s shounen heroes which people don't remember as much these days. .
That's another reason why we need this.
i am sakurai so i confirmed it
I get you but honestly a lot of his potential mechanics pool already exists in Smash in one way or another '94/Extra Mode would be a little silly since he'd have to have breathing room to charge. I could see it making him weaker in multiplayer but potentially overpowered in 1v1, especially if they tried to represent the bonuses you get under 20% health. A single Advanced bar that charges with hits/damage and immediately pops the charge at full might make more sense
disagree. everyone said the same shit with joker in how he'd feel too much like pokemon trainer before realizing there was other ways to summon a persona that made sense while also representing the character. just gotta reinvent the wheel a bit is all.
Cosplayer Kyoko's outfit for his embarrassing costume was a goddamn inspired choice
it really depends on how far sakurai digs into the fatal fury series gameplay
ff1 is really simple stuff outside lanes, it doesn't even have desperation moves
ff2 is the first time you have moves like power geyser and other low life moves called desperation moves
keep in mind the mechanical changes i'll note are ignoring lane-based ones because that won't work with smash as it is
real bout was the first in the series to introduce a super meter, and if you were in flashing red life (half your life bar really) with this filled up, you had access to your level 2 as well as your level 1 super
it also had what's like an alpha counter mechanic where you do a specific special move if you have half your meter filled (h-power), it's called a break shot, like terry's was his power dunk i'm afraid with all the counter shit sakurai has, he'd make this his down special except probably replace it with crackshot, but that's more of a rock howard counter
there were also feints since ff3 (i think)
motw changed how you get p-power to just be a level 2 buildup now instead of be flashing-life based, and also had a top system which gave you a C+D attack and just defend to give life back, but i doubt any of that new stuff would be in smash
but it also had breaks which canceled your special move
if anything, i'm very inclined to think sakurai would use the real bout special style meter with high percent to activate p power mode, but how to delimit power geyser once you have high percent would confuse me
for all i know, it could be done the same way as inklings charge up their ink, by holding shield first then pressing B, which requires it to be done on the ground since you can't air shield into it
i also still think power dunk's animation may replace power wave in the air, just it won't make you fly up and forward first, maybe just forward at best if at all
They already got the sexy pranked angle with Terry so taking the piss out of him being a Kyocuck is the next best thing.
I want to massage and lick his back
Dunk is going to be a weird one to fit in but it's pretty fucking iconic not to have it
Are they already retconning his hair back?
>people still think SNK or anything/everything SNK related revolves primarily around KoF
>even when a character doesn't originate from KoF
>even when recently SNK has been trying to make games other than KoF along with it
>even when something is not automatically set up as having a direct connection to KoF e.g. Terry's inclusion being shown as Smash Bros Ultimate X Fatal Fury
>some can't even reconcile that SNK's most recognizable or popular might not be a KoF original character or protagonist
>not necessarily limited to this thread but some have used the same arguments against something not KoF possibly being prominet that some smash players have used against Terry like uhhh relevancy and hurr when was the last game made/dead series
Goddamn I like KoF and hope some nods to it are included and have defended it several times in the past, but some people are insufferable. It doesn't help that some have thrown shit fits in the past because whatever KoF is new isn't exactly like or a carbon copy of their favorite immediately deeming it shit, and in one especially retarded occasion making a petition demanding they bring back a game that almost killed SNK while completely shitting on the new one because it wasn't like the one they liked. Those few nutcases are no better than the more obnoxious meleeniggers.
The rest of you are alright.
As has been said, FF and RBFF just don't have much to go on for unique mechanics. I really doubt they'd be crazy enough to do the lane shit
FFS is essentially the Turbo and Japs love Special.
yeah, but it was a move he had only from fatal fury 3 on up, and sakurai is very classical
granted, it IS in kof95 which is the kof game he primarily touched even when it was kof96 that introduced rolling to the series, for which was inspired by smash brothers 64 which defined all the meta and inspired samurai shodown vi's meta especially
i just feel it'll either be a counter move down B to simulate a break shot and god knows ultimate's fetish for counters, or be an animation for air neutral B in place of power wave because
>power wave
>in the air
crackshot might be some kind of aerial move if not a down B
the only sure things are burn knuckle, power wave, and rising tackle being his up B
either way, i trust sakurai to come up with something that makes sense, even if not competitively sensiblelittlemac
A bunch of the mechanics that have been attributed to KoF didn't originate in KoF, it originated in other series as well. Even some of the relatively newer mechanics akin to dream canceling or canceling specials into supers for example originated in Dominated Mind.
As stated the problem is some people refusing to acknowledge anything other than/automatically assuming KoF or when others ask about something KoF is the first fucking thing they point to even if their role in that series is pretty fucking minor and they're more fleshed out in other series (Terry being a huge example of this).
KoF borrows as much from it's predecessors as much as Smash was an inspired by KoF. Hell one big reason for KoF's creation is its predecessors. Not acknowledging something other than KoF like many do is purely asinine and glosses over SNK's contributions to FGs that came before it.