Vidya characters who intentionally nerf themselves

Aigis from Persona 3. Her Orgia mode removes her limiter.

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Speaking of DBZ, I'm not the only one who believes that the direction of the show slowly went to shit ever since the Saiyan Saga right?
Don't get me wrong, the original Dragon Ball has some faults and DBZ has its cool characters and stuff like #17, Super Buu, and even Beerus on super but there's a couple of things I fucking hate about DBZ (and afterwards) like:
>Detailed fights are replaced with a fuckton of light shows
>Physical fighting doesn't look so methodological and instead replaced by some fast punches and kicks that tosses martial arts into the window
>Anyone who isn't Goku, a saiyan, nor the villain is now treated like crap when originally they still manage to be decent at fighting
>Introducing power levels
>Making Goku some sort of God because anyone before him can't be a challenge for him

Like I said, it has some good stuff but the show's environment is now forever tainted

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The Boss from MGS3. Could have killed you at pretty much every meeting but doesn't get serious till the very end.

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Doc.. it's been half an hour, I'm dying out here

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fuck off, piccolo is pure

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Me

Is it time?

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every single character in the Trails series

The frieza saga still had some nice crunchy martial arts bits, like when recoome kicks gohan

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based cellposter

>Evil because... evil
Also applies to Cell.

Pretty much . The series didn't actually go downhill until Freeza was killed by a literal who.

In Path of Radiance, the Black Knight uses Warp Powder to teleport himself around Tellius, but it weakens him in the process (although in the Japanese version he says that he "wasn't trying").

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Ready for your shots boys?

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Zero from Megaman

Thanks, doc!

>use Black Knight on the last chapter of the first act
>he is such a monster that he hogs all the experience from the rest of your party, effectively hamstringing them for the final act when you have to use the dawn brigade again.

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most of the forms ssjb are just wastes, they should've just kept ssj, ssj2, and maybe even ssjg. ultra instinct was cool at first, but now it's just bland. i can't wait for the inevitable "i wish for goku and vegeta to have their power from ___ years ago!! as a way to stop them from becoming gods. i miss the brutal shit like when piccolo broke goku's leg, and frieza blowing up krillin. now it's just
>punch in the gut
>slow motion shot of the character spitting
it's boring

>j

I agree, Johnny Cage. I prefer DB too.

On topic, right answer.

my main man Azrael

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Friendly reminder that Cell is only popular in Spixico and Muttland
He's one of the least liked villains in Japan

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Am I the only one here that enjoys the dragon ball series in its entirety

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HxH is better in every single way

Dbz has aged poorly

Teen Gohan is pretty based though

>HxH is better in every single way
lol

Goku vs Kid Chichi
Goku: You really need to work out more, honey.
what the fuck did goku mean by this?

>starts off by nerfing himself
>later reveals his "true power"
>but he's still nerfing himself from what he's actually capable of

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No, cell's following his nature.
Doing evil act because it's in your biological nature to do so is not the same as being evil for the sake of being evil

The difference is so small that it doesn't actually make a difference in his character.

How does that not apply to Super Buu when he's literally the embodiment of the evil within Buu?

>enjoying the Super anime
This is impossible unless you're one of those HYPE bumblefucks.

>He doesn't even know

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Based Hunterchad

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Never because Cell is only good because of Norio Wakamoto and is an inferior villain to both Buu AND Frieza so there's nothing to top

DBS Manga > DBS Anime

DBS manga is still shit.

By your own logic Cell is a bad character for being evil for the sake of being evil. After all he evolved beyond Gero's original intent of killing Goku and only wanted to test his powers like Goku and Vegeta. He was just the bad guy for the sake of being a bad guy rather than having his own motive.

I have a friend who watches that trash and he refuses to watch dragon ball. He also has the biggest boner for the raildex series so yeah...

Can you not go one thread without trying to shit on Super in some way?

We all know you have no friends.

But I'm American and I thought he was a shit villain with the worst arc in Dragon Ball.

Oh fuck off, Buu was just a worse Cell

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they're both bad

That's a funny way of saying better.

lmao what Norio Wakamoto made him super popular

He really wasn't, especially when he started absorbing people.

At least Buu killed everyone and blew up Earth he even had a good fight with SSJ3 Goku while Cell's fight with SSJ2 Gohan was one-sided as hell, I remember being so disappointed in it after so much build up.

>Buu shows capacity for change
>Actively works to help others and proves crucial to actually defeating Kid Buu
Literally the only time you can consider him like Cell is when he absorbs Gotenks and Piccolo
Cell is fucking static he's literally just about "muh perfection"

Super Buu was pretty shitty, it's no wonder only Buu and Kid Buu return and Super Buu is left in the corner.

Soon when he got it, he went downhill but that already started after he ate 17, it got worse when he ate 18.

namek arc is overrated

Kid Buu was literally a non-character.

Cell does evil but he's not literally born evil.
Super buu does evil, was born evil and is evil

If he's not born evil how is evil in his nature?
How is a literal manifestation of evil not in itself evil by nature?

>He really wasn't
Sure he was just for the fact that he wasn't simply written to be evil because they needed a villain like Cell.

>Cell does evil but he's not literally born evil
Then it's not in his nature to be evil is it.
Meanwhile Buu was the incarnation of evil until he absorbed the Daikaioh.

>he wasn't simply written to be evil

Yes he was

Cellfag was based as fuck in the pre-release dbfz threads and I miss all the cellbros shitting on super but this isn't too bad.

Cell vs Goku was great

>Left out Dragon Ball because Piccolo Daimao trumps everyone. Fuck Arale.
Why did you hide the truth? Nobody can ever be more awesome and intimidating than Piccolo Daimao.

Reminder that Son Goku had to literally drink poison water to awaken the power of the Oozaru's latent power to even stand a chance against him. They re-tread the "awaken the power of the Oozaru" thing like fifteen times since then, but that was the first and undoubtedly coolest time.

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Doing evil =/= being evil

Maybe in terms of real life philosophy you're on the side of Rousseau, but many people agree that despite humans having the propensity to commit evil acts, humans aren't naturally evil.
Animals have to kill and eat other animals to survive, we may consider acts as killing to be evil, but that would then mean they would die if they didn't kill. If you agree that it's evil no matter what, you would be saying to live in this world is evil unto itself. Should you agree with that, you would also then agree that the Z warriors are evil themselves and all the humans are evil as well and there are no real villains or heroes in dbz.

Cell is programmed/designed to commit evil acts in order to survive and grow stronger, just like animals, but that itself does not make him born evil despite him committing evil acts

We're talking super and kid, not regular buu

Fat Buu made for a boring villain. There's a reason why his only real memorable stuff is when he isn't evil.

>I miss N*ggerlo the Dangalang man
youtube.com/watch?v=sHVy0FN-k0A

Not really, being written as evil is when a character has no real reason to be evil beyond taking the spot of bad guy. Cell fits that perfectly as he had absolutely no reason to destroy the earth or do anything that he did after becoming perfect.
To drive it home Fu is exactly like Cell but chose to be good in Xenoverse.

Cell is less popular because he isn't utilized as much as other past villains like Frieza. Exposure = popularity. The reason cell hasn't made a comeback is because animators hated drawing his spots.

To be fair most of the Downs Brigade are complete garbage anyway.

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That at least was good.

Geralt of Rivia.

>We're talking super and kid, not regular buu
And let me just direct you back to that post Again Buu was the embodiment of evil and it took an outside source to change that.

He had about as much exposure as Frieza did up until RoF which was years after his unpopularity was solidified.

Cell had Freeza's cells in him. He got off on making people fear for their lives, something he explicitly stated to Trunks after their fight. He's evil because he enjoys it.

17 vs Piccolo was better.