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>dude I am a traitor to the crown lmao

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The King was a retard to trust the gay wardens.

>Grey Wardens saved the kingdom again
>Loghain was executed
Nice try

>could've ended the blight in basically a day
>nah, fuck the king and fuck the grey wardens
>also fuck the thousands of troops counting on our relief
What the actual christ is wrong with Loghain fags?

>What the actual christ is wrong with Loghain fags?
"But muh martyr complex"

He had a solid plan. But too bad he allied himself with hitler.

loghain and anders get gassed as soon as the option is available

This. Over the years I lost almost all respect for that hack

>for no reason
i support him to cuck that faggot alistair

the start of da:o always frustrates me a bit

are there any games that don't massively cuck you out of participating in a big, exciting battle at the beginning instead of the trope "HERO PLEASE GO DO BARELY RELEVANT SIDEQUEST INSTEAD" shit

I lose all interest in DA:O after doing the (very well done) quests to gather allies
DUDE POLITICS LMAO
I love the gameplay to death but the story gets so boring after this. Additionaly 3 mages + Alistair is such a braindead powerful combo it should be illegal.

I let him fuck my girlfriend.

Loghain in the novels was based.

Loghain in DA:O was a moron.

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Same I even romanced her but was ok with being cucked by Chsd Loghain.

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What the fuck is wrong with you

As an elf I was comfortable to trust big daddy Loghaine as I made sure my party members were executed or banished.

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Cringe

>Leon, I'm still the same stupid slut stealing viruses for evil people from the first game and didn't learn a thing lmao

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Loghain was fucking BASED, a based retard but BASED nonetheless. Will kill him every playthrough / 10.

He was good umgi, for wanting to punch faggot orlesians harder

fuck off. the only reason the grey wardens won was because the retarded dragon god decided to show up on the battlefield for no fucking reason, and loghain did nothing wrong, throwing troops on the darkspawn horde without the dragon is like trying to drain the sea with one bucket

someone liked this braindead plot-device?

>playing a Mage
You did this to yourself.

>He was good umgi, for wanting to punch faggot orlesians harder
>even Legion of the Dead joinned the fight against Orlais
>Oghren one of the best companions in DAO
Better question is why Human-Dwarf friendship are so much superior than human-Elf in fantasy genre

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So why hasnt Loghain and Alistair's Calling come yet?

>he doesn't like to wear cool armor and do cool things

Based

>DUDE POLITICS LMAO
lolwut?

I wouldn't say I like him, but he's sympathetic in a crazy Vietnam vet sort of way

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this

100% the reason why I supported Loghain: Just to see that Alistair bitch loose his shit and storm off.

Because it DAO hapenned less than 30 years before DAI?

>actively tried to assasinate everyone who survived the Battle of Ostagar to cover up his conspiracy including yourself
>H-he did nothing wrong g-guys

What cu ck

It all comes down to whether they could've won that battle or not

So if it tales 30 years for the Calling to come, explain the HoF's Calling then.

The conclave feels slow and sluggish compared to the other quest lines
I don't have time to save the bitch princess

>romanced Alistair's reaction if you spare Loghain and let Anora execute him
Diamonds

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I let him live. The fucker was a piece of shit sure, but a good strategist. Also anyone who actually romanced that witch cunt is retarded. I saw her red flags from a mile away. Me and that rogue elf twink got it in with a hooker though

>The conclave feels slow and sluggish
Dude it's literally 2.5 missions

The amount of rssources he diverted for that is staggering

>throwing troops on the darkspawn horde without the dragon is like trying to drain the sea with one bucket
Except that wasn't his reason. He didn't think it was a Blight and was more concerned with invasion from Orlais (An invasion that would never come, because king Calian and the queen of Orlais were fucking

HoF isn't went to Calling

It literally doesn't.

>The conclave feels slow and sluggish compared to the other quest lines
Slow and sluggish compared to the Fade? Or the Deep Roads???

Both were cool

>>good strategist
>wastes all of Ferelden's soldiers fighting a civil war he caused
>provokes a schism in the mage tower when Ferelden can least afford it
"good strategy"

HoF is trying to prevent the calling
If he started trying to do that when he was already experiencing it’d be too fucking late

>provokes a schism in the mage tower when Ferelden can least afford it
Huh?

>could've ended the blight in basically a day
The Archdemon wasn't even at Ostagar!

He was near

He backed Uldred to take control of the tower, promising him muh freedoms in exchange for the support of the mages once Uldred got them onside, which resulted in Uldred deciding to start summoning demons all over the place when he got BTFO by Wynne and Irving.

Loghain backed the man who tried to usurp the circle and turned everyone into abominations
He also backed the man who murdered one of the Terynir families
He also sent a blood mage to sabotage an influential Arl
He also spent royal coin on foreign assassins
He also allowed his countrymen to be enslaved by Tevinter Mages
He prevents Orlesian grey wardens and an extra army from helping against the blight, while starting and perpetuating a civil war

>>could've ended the blight in basically a day
No, actually.

BUT MUH BASED LOGHAIN

>waste all your money paying foreign mercenaries and assassins
>but muh orlais

No it wasn't. It wasn't there at all, it was at the Deep Roads.

>He also allowed his countrymen to be enslaved by Tevinter Mages
And it's okay since Tevinter based

>And it's okay
What is this? There is no slavery in Ferelden!

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Ostagar is still better field than Denerim

Elves doesn't count

>b-b-but he totally loves his country!
The only thing sympathetic about him is his hatred for the king for being an idiot and being pissed that he was about to drop his daughter.

He was a traitor to a clown, one who tried to sell his own country to the people who were rightfully thrown out not 30 years ago. The only mistake he made was not having Cailan assassinated the second it became obvious he was no good at anything.

Ok.

FPBP

>The only mistake he made
Shut the fuck up, Anora.

Is Dragon Age 4 even going to happen?
I still haven't played Inquisition, I bought it on PSN on sale at the start of the year.

Seems about right. On his own he fucks it up. He needs a tard wrangle to tell him no.

Okay, so they win at Ostagar and take even heavier losses, which spares Lothering for another week or so before the Archdemon rallies another army of Darkspawn. Congratulations, everyone dies.

>Anora
>promoting the death of Cailan

Sure thing, Orlesian.

>declares himself regent even though Anora is supposedly entirely capable of ruling, and he knows there's a son of royal blood
HMMMMM

it's ironic that loghain in his own way was a comparable idiot to cailan in terms of handling the blight

Yeah
But it seems like development is kinda fucked
All the devs were really happy with how it was going but then they got pulled to save Andromeda
After they came back they basically started again and made a deal with EA which wrote off all the time they spent on the original development in exchange for agreeing to include more ‘live service’ shit

>not remembering that Anora literally retroactively justifies his death so as not to side against her precious father
Loghainfags being this delusional

He doesn't hate foreigners, he hates Orlesians.

Fuck the Orlesians
Fuck the King

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>After they came back they basically started again and made a deal with EA which wrote off all the time they spent on the original development in exchange for agreeing to include more ‘live service’ shit
lol it's fucked then.

it's getting games-as-a-service'd

In which case retreating might have been justified, but vilifying the Wardens is still a selfish move that did nothing but harm in any case.

Are you forgetting that without Loghain, almost the entirety of Ferelden and the Circle is united behind Cailain to combat the blight? And Duncan gathered those treaties for a reason.

then he's doubly more retarded
orlais is the seat of the chantry that has a vested interest in wiping that shit out
plain old grey wardens that only focus on removing a blight
but he has no qualm hiring literal murdering criminals who charge a premium to further kill more grey wardens

So why Tevinter bad again?
>simple folk lives better than simple folk in orlais
>simplefolk have citiezenship and rights granted by laws
>can be elected into Senate or get good non-magtical education
>strong and honorable friendship with dwarves
>dwarven enclaves not becomming marginalised ghetto and didn't produce mutts like Varric
>Fights the Qunari and their queerislam
>Oldest Church
>Head of the Church is man
>while next Orlesian high priestess can be: whore who fucked half of Ferelden and half of Orlay, or black mage (surely magick shouldn't rule over the men), or 40yo feminist

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Elves? More like +1 CON lmao

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That's my point, the problem is that he's retarded.

The whole world hates Orlesians

all of that will be retconned. They are evil white men who have slaves.

>So why Tevinter bad again?
Trying to challenge god, invading heaven, and then almost unleashing the apocalypse and literally unleashing hellspawn on the entire world, might have something to do with it.

-Loghain actually had nothing to directly do with the Circle Tower falling, Uldred decided to use him as a justification to start a war against the Templars.
-He sent an assassin to poison the Arl to keep the Arl from rousing people against him, all for his own survival. All the monsters and Demons that destroys Redcliffe was because the Arl's wife is a stupid bitch.
-There's nothing inherently wrong here, it would only be hypocritical if he hired Orlesian assassins.
-Whose to say the Orlesians wouldn't take advantage of Ferelden's weakened state after having to deal with a blight?
Can't comment on the other stuff, but he hardly did anything wrong in these ones.

>tfw can't convince Alistair that we are only gonna use Loghain as a sacrifice.

>Trying to challenge god, invading heaven,
Golden city never was a heaven

The Grey Wardens of Orlais would bring Orlesian militant forces with them, they wouldn't just bring Grey Wardens. This was spoken about in the intro sequences of Ostagar. Imagine bringing in a foreign enemy, one that brutally ruled you for years, to help with something that when finished leaves you in a near powerless state.

You don't know you need a sacrifice when you make the decision, that's why.

t. Tevinter heathen
Andraste and the Maker, not dragons and blood magic, ok?
Praise the Ashes

I mean it makes sense, Alistair views the sacrifice of killing an Archdemon as heroic and an honour which Loghain doesn’t deserve after all he did to the Wardens

Exactly, there's nothing wrong with hating Orlais. But there is something wrong being being so retarded you decide to burn your entire country to the ground out of some delusional paranoia.

Andraste was a liar, the Gold City was Black before Tevinter Magisters ever went there.

Shut up and get back in your hole, Corypheus.

>Praise the Ashes
Civilization will not attain to its perfection until the last stone from the last church falls on the last priestess

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>Loghain actually had nothing to directly do with the Circle Tower falling
That's wrong.

>-He sent an assassin to poison the Arl to keep the Arl from rousing people against him, all for his own survival
And that's "nothing wrong" to you? This is after leaving the King to die on the field and then unilaterally declaring himself regent unnecessarily. Hell, even on your second point Loghain is more responsible than Isolde because he knowingly chose to work with a blood mage.

I just hope I can kill Dorian and Mae's tranny faction. I bet we'll be forced to side with them though.

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>That's wrong.
No, it actually isn't. Uldred just used Loghain as a scapegoat, Loghain never actually told him that he would do anything.

Even if everything you say is true, and the Orlesians were going to do everything Loghain suspected them of, which isn't necessarily the case - imagine picking an unwinnable war against the literal hordes of hell instead of a winnable one against a mortal enemy with mortal motivations. And then doubling down with one blunder after another until you get the country you supposedly love so much closer to being destroyed than the Orlesians ever took it.

>Uldred just used Loghain as a scapegoat, Loghain never actually told him that he would do anything.

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>-Loghain actually had nothing to directly do with the Circle Tower falling, Uldred decided to use him as a justification to start a war against the Templars.
What other reason would he have for deciding to vehemently throw in his lot with any of the rulers when they have no say in how the circles are run? Jowan also proves Loghain has no qualms with blood mages,
>-He sent an assassin to poison the Arl to keep the Arl from rousing people against him, all for his own survival. All the monsters and Demons that destroys Redcliffe was because the Arl's wife is a stupid bitch.
How is silencing a dissenting voice nothing wrong? He even conducted himself properly at the actual fucking Landsmeet.
>-There's nothing inherently wrong here, it would only be hypocritical if he hired Orlesian assassins.
it means he trusts criminals more than actual organizations meant to do their fucking job. The ending would have been fucked without Riordan's information.
>-Whose to say the Orlesians wouldn't take advantage of Ferelden's weakened state after having to deal with a blight?
By that logic, why accept any help at all when confronting the blight? Why did Loghain throw a fit at Cailan about strategy?

>Imagine bringing in a foreign enemy, one that brutally ruled you for years, to help with something that when finished leaves you in a near powerless state.
Except had King Calian not died, there would've been absolutely no problem

The fucking game? Uldred tries to convince everyone int he tower that Loghain would support them after Ostagar. The game never tells you that Loghain personally told him to do this, like how he sent an assassin after Eamon and hired someone to kill the protagonist.

Who's the retard loved by Yea Forums for no reason in Bioware's better main franchise?

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>Fights the Qunari
The Qunari are the ones who have been the most right so far, and life is better for the people who live there.

Cailan was going to die regardless of what happened. Do you not remember Loghain attempting to reason with him before the battle? He tried telling Cailan not to fight, but Cailan was a retard obsessed with glory stories and refused to listen.

>matriarchat is better

What the f*ck is Solas' problem?

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>Cailan was going to die regardless of what happened
Not necessarily true. Had the reinforcements arrived, Calian might not have been overwhelmed

Besides which, do you honestly believe that Calian's lover would suddenly turn on the kingdom he once ruled, despite making overtures of friendship between the kingdoms in private?

>literally applies to most of DA2 and DAI companions

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Maybe if you delude yourself into thinking how many forces they had against the darkspawn. The Darkspawn severely outnumbered the Ferelden forces and the intro to the battle even shows this.

Yeah, hence the whole reason they had a plan to keep half their forces in reserve and flank the Darkspawn. Or did you forget that part, odd considering that was Loghain's plan in the first place.

doesn't uldred also suspiciously ask to handle the lighting of the signal fire

>forces and the intro to the battle even shows this.
No?
Besides which, there are no logistical numbers, so don't go tell me that with such certainty, unless you have some hard evidence from another part of the game

elven "gods"

Wynne and Irving both specifically mention Uldred as having colluded with Loghain, that they spent time together after Ostagar and they're clearly aligned in the Ostagar council. Loghain clearly has no qualms about working with blood mages or murderous traitors, either.

How much more proof do you need, you want the game to have explicitly shown a fucking conversation where they go through it for you?

Yep.

b-but good strategist!

loghain complained about his over-reliance on wardens and personal glory seeking on the front line being a liability
he never said anything about how they should scrap the plan because it was shit

>No?
I think you need to watch the scene again. They were clearly outnumbered. The Darkspawn Unironically get shown as if they're just flooding the battlefield at the very start and very clearly have more troops than the Fereldens.

>Cailan, I don't think you should fight, but also I don't want to wait for reinforcements even just the ones from Redcliffe
>if you are going to fight anyway, we'd better fight with my brilliant plan
>wait, nevermind, turns out I'm not going to follow that plan anyway
BRILLIANT STRATEGIST

Do you forget Loghain's part in this battle, buddy?

Because he had a huge chunk of his forces off the field which he "conveniently" chose not to actually use.

Loghain calls Cailan a retard for wanting to fight on the front lines and tries to get him to not do it. It's the very first thing they talk about.

youtu.be/_Y6nFGZ9d0Q?t=497

And again, do you think the queen of Orlais would backstab Ferelden? Do you not realize that a part of the tragedy of Loghain's decision is that he was completely wrong?

>Cailan: Loghain awaits eagerly to bore me with his strategies
I wonder whose fault it was that the plan was shit.

Are you illiterate, or did you just forget the second part of his post like Loghain 'forgot' about his part in the plan he himself created?

Is this supposed to actually be an argument against Loghain's plan? all this shows is that Cailan is a stupid lazy fuck who doesn't care about battle strategies.

>Cailan: Loghain awaits eagerly to bore me with his strategies
That doesn't imply that Calian didn't follow Loghain's advice, Which he obviosuly did, since the reserve was loghain's plan

>constantly talks himself up for how hard he fought for Maric and Ferelden's royal bloodline
>instantly fucks over Cailan and tries to put himself on the throne the second it becomes clear he won't have his descendants ruling Ferelden
Yes, what a true patriot

I think you need to read the quote line, mother fucker. I'm specifically only talking about how Loghain tried to pull Cailan off the field and Cailan refused. I don't know what the hell you're bringing up Loghains plan here for.

So yes, the complaint was that Cailan was making a stupid choice fighting up front.
Where does the entire strategy falling apart come to being Cailan's fault come into play?

Why should he have to care when he has a supposed master strategist general to do all the planning for him? Loghain is constantly going on about what a brilliant general he is

Yes, but how many troops that was is unknown, and it would have been a waste because many more would have died anyway. The fucking Arch Demon and the bulk of the Darkspawn Horde wasn't even at Ostagar. Hell, we hardly even see any Ogres there, you see more ogres at the Deep Roads than at the battle of Ostagar. Ostagar was a lost cause from the very beginning, regardless of Loghains plan.

>there are most darkspawn underground, where the darkspawn live, than on the surface
Another brilliant insight

>Where does the entire strategy falling apart come to being Cailan's fault come into play?
When the fuck did I ever say this? Are you people actually retarded? All I talked about was how Cailan was gonig to die regardless, because he decided to fight on the front lines against a swarm of darkspawn that Ferelden couldn't handle at the moment. I never said it was his fault that the plan failed and Loghain retreated, I said it was his fault that he died.

>Ostagar was a lost cause from the very beginning, regardless of Loghains plan.
Then why the fuck did he blame the King for the shitshow?
Why did he lie about seeing the Grey Wardens cut down the the king at the battle?
Why didn't he say the whole thing was a wash and they should leave?

Nice non-argument, all this does is show that retreating wasn't a bad idea.

That's a lot of assuming. What makes you think that the flank attack wouldn't have been devastating to the Darkspawn that were present, which would net Ferelden a nice victory. You also seem to know a whole lot about what amount of Darkspawn and military units there are

>Nice non-argument
Right back at you, you retarded loghainfag

Do you understand the concept of lying to save his own hide? Reteating from Ostagar at all was going to cause a schism, even if he lied about it or not, and it was clear that people thought he did it to gun for the throne even before ever actually becoming the acting leader along with Anora. Did Morrigans constant babbling about doing whatever it takes to survive not reach your ears?

And yet again: Do you honestly think that accepting help from Orlais would've ended in an occupation? Because that was certainly one of, if not the main reason for Loghain pulling out

an entire unit they sent into the woods never came back
that would make me pack the fuck up

>that Ferelden couldn't handle at the moment
You don't know that, though. You're assuming that's true because of what happens in the game, but that's only because Loghain's plan is a failure from the start. Cailan decided to fight on the frontlines because he thought his men needed to be inspired against the Darkspawn as much as he wanted to be a hero.

If Loghain's plan had actually worked instead of him turning tail, if Loghain had agreed to wait for reinforcements, if Loghain's men had even done their fucking job and secured the tower - who knows what would've happened?

Because you haven't read Silmalirion.

Loghain needed Cailan gone before he could divorce his daughter for that french whore. He wanted to keep his power, and not be blamed for the murder. Everything else is just an excuse.

>Do you understand the concept of lying to save his own hide?
At least we've acknowledged the fuck up was Loghain's.
>Reteating from Ostagar at all was going to cause a schism, even if he lied about it or not
How is losing to a force that threatened the world repeatedly before something you need to lie about?
>nd it was clear that people thought he did it to gun for the throne even before ever actually becoming the acting leader along with Anora.
They started slinging the accusations after he made the declarations seizing power.
youtu.be/PQMf-PaRNbs?t=927

Christ, it's like you people don't actually bother paying attention to any of the thing you argue about. The game goes out of its way to show you that the front line was severely outnumbered. I seriously don't understand how you can even try arguing against this.

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>your withdrawal was most fortuitous
It's obvious that these people thought he was vying for the throne before even ever becoming regent. Not to say that Loghain never made any mistakes, but retreating was not one of them.

>The game goes out of its way to show you that the front line was severely outnumbered. I seriously don't understand how you can even try arguing against this.
Nigga, what the fuck do you think the reserves were for? Do you understand how effective flanking maneuvers are?

>mysteriously, the other teyrn that might've contested his position purely on rank is dead
>person who got the teyrn killed is on loghain's payroll
really makes me think

Christ, it's like you don't even bother to read the posts you're responding to. But go ahead, keep deflecting.

Can you not read? This discussion was about how fucked the front lines were you fucking moron, and no one knows how numerous the reserve forces were. Holy shit, fuck off.

>severely outnumbered
And as we all know, numbers are all that matter in a battle and there has NEVER been a case where a numerically inferior defender beat back a disorganised horde using superior tactics, favorable terrain, traps, fortifications and/or a chokepoint.

>Josephine
I SWEAR TO MAKER! RACE OF GIANT RAT-MEN EXISTS SOMEWHERE BEANTH! THEY ARE AMONG US!

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>diverges from his own plan and retreats in a battle that kills the king and leaves his own daughter on the throne
>immediately returns to the capital and unnecessarily declares himself regent
What do you call that if not fortuitous?

Well yes, based on the dialogue in that conversation.
>He returns saying the king is dead
>He becomes regent and usurps power from his daughter
>He demands everyone work under him
>then the comment of it being fortuitous comes out
No, the accusations were most certainly reactionary

I still remember the first time I played I had Alistair duel and behead him, splattering the princess in her fathers blood, then he married her and became king. Made him the biggest Chad in the kingdom.

>Can you not read?
Ironic.
>and no one knows how numerous the reserve forces were.
Christ, it's like you don't pay any attention to what you're arguing about. I think you need to watch the scene again, because the game does a pretty good job of showing how many of them there are behind Loghain when he orders the retreat.

Except that's the reason the reserves exist in the first place. Lure in the Darkspawn with a weak frontline, and then send in the reserves for a hammer and anvil strategy. The frontline is not inherently fucked if Loghain follows his own plan.

Fucking calm down, man

No, but it does in such a scenario where your forces are actually getting swarmed and you just end up charging the rest of your forces at an overwhelmingly numerous foe. This isn't like Thermopylae where a smaller force held out against a larger one with proper tactics and stratagem on good ground. the Fereldens shot some arrows, threw some dogs, then chard head on into the darkspawn like retards. They didn't use their surroundings to their advantage. So yes, in this situation numbers are extremely important. but so are logistics, such as having good support, but the Dark Spawn also have this. Did you not notice the flying rocks headed towards Ostagar? The Darkspawn also had their own pseudo siege weapons known as Ogres. The frontlines were dead from the start.

>Morrigan milkers mod
neat

Lol, contrarianism at it's finest.

>weeb newshit doesn't know about dragon age bait threads

You can't have Alistair kill him AND marry Anora, redditor.

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No, that would be liking him. Fucking pantsu on head retarded anime stories with cutscenes out the ass and subpar shit gameplay. Every "game" described that he took part in.

I've been here longer than you've been alive, child. Cute reply though considering it wasn't a new IP in the thread. I suggest lurking moar.

nothing personnel, kiddo

This is all assuming the reserve forces were enough to do what you're saying, which no one knows of. The funny part is how your try shitting on me for making assumptions about the battle (despite me only talking about the frontlines and showing how outnumbered they were while also mentioning that the reserve numbers are unknown) while also making your own assumption on how the battle would play out if Loghain just charged.

Oh fucking please, by this logic the Darkspawn forces were even bigger than initially anticipated.

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Keep lighting up my Yea Forums tab, newfriend.

>The funny part is how your try shitting on me for making assumptions about the battle (despite me only talking about the frontlines and showing how outnumbered they were while also mentioning that the reserve numbers are unknown) while also making your own assumption on how the battle would play out if Loghain just charged.
...you can type all that out and you're still too thick to understand what his point is?

Not the same user, "child"

Why would that make a difference when you replied again? It's like taking candy from a toddler.

>This is all assuming the reserve forces were enough to do what you're saying, which no one knows of.
THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT

>e-everyone look at what an oldfag I am, right guys! Look!

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I seriously think you need to read the quote line again. You morons seem to just start frothing at the mouth when people don't just agree with everything you say, in this case Loghain and his retreating.

You sure showed me, kid. Keep posting best girl.

Holy fucking shit nigger, I never argues against this for fucks sake fuck off and go learn how to read.

>my assumptions are always right, because I say so
>and yours aren't because I say so!
I think you need to get a functioning brain, instead of using the same deflection whenever you have to address an inconsistency in your argument.

I'd also suggest learning the difference between 'quote' and 'quoted'

How embarrassing. Wish I could be a 2cool5u oldfag like yourself. Bet you have a qt3.14 gf and all

Then what EXACTLY was your point? That the frontline would get smashed? No shit, that's the point of the reserves

>>and no-one knows how numerous the reserve forces were
>actually, by the same evidence as your own argument, the game clearly shows...
>wtf no! By this logic the Darkspawn were already bigger than what I've already tried claiming!
Great "argument"

>go learn how to read.
Ironic.

Talk about embarrassing, you can't stop your underage self from replying.

I did.

epic!
epic for the win!

Literally the self control of a toddler, are you having as much fun as me?

I have seen nothing but hatred for him here. Nice try though.

Sure.

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yeah

A pathetic shell of a man, I'm glad my Cousland ended his miserable broken life

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Then you need to lurk moar. All the MGS threads alone should be proof enough that most of the board is braindead. I'm not even going to touch the death stranding shit.

Where is kuro you cockmongler?

>Cousland

>retards loved by Yea Forums for no reason
He's voiced by Simon Templeman, there is no way I could dislike him.

Is it me or DAI companions looks a bit pathetic compared to DAO and DAO:A?

>You cannot wish to be a man. It will lead you only to frustration.

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Interesting, an user user from the bizarro universe where everyone loves Kojima. Please, tell me all about this Yea Forums there.

Do you even browse this fucking board you braindead mongoloid?

But user, I thought you asked for the best girl?

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Yes, kuro is best girl.

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NuBioware is shit, news at 11.

Yes I do. Why are you so angry lol

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I have no patience for imbeciles.

How mighty will fall

>Fucking pantsu on head retarded anime stories
I don't think you belong on this site.

Yea Forums certainly has a history of praising Hideo and also Kojima. Were you here for the Phantom Pain reveal, before people even knew it was a MGS game?

I'm just being facetious. I don't really have much so I'll leave you with this sleepy Kuro.
Have a pleasant day/night, user.

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What imbeciles are you referring to?

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>No reason
>Director of MGS
>Director of MGS2
>Director of MGS3
>Director of MGS4
>Director of MGS Peace Walker
>Director of MGSV

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Anime is fine but retarded shit like that doesn't belong in video games, especially with garbage execution.
I'm more anime than you ever will be, newfag.

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Lol fuck off play Last of Us if you need 'muh mature games for mature gaymers'

I take it you didn't rike it?

That's not a game either, just like MGS. That's the whole point of hating that dumb fuck Kojima.

What about Hideo? Do you like him?

>Director of MGS4
>Director of MGS Peace Walker
>Director of MGSV
Seems like a good list of reasons to hate him

Please explain to me how MGS isn't a game?

Why are you playing as a woman?

Based and NTRpilled

Stop resisting. Sooner or later you're going to be converted. Just let it happen.

It's a dogshit version of pacman with garbage camera view interrupted by cutscenes every 5 minutes. Dumb fucking cunt should direct anime because it's obviously not working out in this medium.
Unless of course you are braindead.

The writing of Dragon Age was awful. None of the characters were likeable. A lot of them betray you for the sake of drama.

In fact, practically everything in the game happened for the sake of drama regardless of if it made any fucking sense or not. The *majority* of characters acted retarded just to push a conflict.

I mean, THEORETICALLY, if I were to let some NTR happen than at least with a Qunari because the comparsion to a human is just unfair and it's not as humiliating

I want to have SEX with Ada Wong

Ah I see, you're just retarded.

>It's not working out
>Every single main iteration of the decades old series is a gigantic success

Lel how stupid are you

>It's a dogshit version of pacman with garbage camera view interrupted by cutscenes every 5 minutes.
wot
And 5 has the absolute least amount of cutscenes in the entire series. In fact, that's probably one of its flaws, since the story is rather thin

You just don't understand his oldfag ways, kid

>None of the characters were likeable. A lot of them betray you for the sake of drama.
Nope?

>A lot of them betray you for the sake of drama.
Who? Zevran "betrays" you if you don't get his approval up, which makes a whole lot of sense. Lilliana betrays you if you decide to piss on her saint's ashes. Are there any more?

Sheil joins Caridin if you chose branca

Which also makes sense, I suppose

I am totally agree.
>Bioware will never make characters like Sten or Wynne

>bioware rpg
>can become a cuck
Like clockwork

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Fucking subhuman Kojima dickriders should be publicly executed. You need to play a real stealth game like Splinter Cell to understand how fucking braindead you are.
Stupid fucking gimps.

Why wouldn't bioware make another Wynne?

Can you not keep track of where the conversation is?

>my Cousland
how does it feel to be discounted version of Amell?

>Why wouldn't bioware make another Wynne?
Because instead we have histerical bitches like Anders or Dorian or "I don't care about magic"like WEWUZien

Not really, watching a TV show and pissing of people in multiple threads while having dinner currently.
Still applies, if you are defending Kojima or any of his games you don't belong on Yea Forums. You are subhuman.

Nobody is defending Hideo or Kojima, only objecting to your apparent lack of mental clarity. You also seem a bit autistic, my dude

>every MGS is a giant success
>5 has the least amount of cutscenes, it's the WORST
>nobody is defending this garbage
Do YOU even follow the conversation you fucking mouthbreather? Am I talking to drunken toddlers? Do you have brain problems?

>every MGS is a giant success
Which is true
>5 has the least amount of cutscenes,
Which is also true
>it's the WORST
Where was this said in combination with the above?
>nobody is defending this garbage
It's stating facts, not defending.
Stop sperging out, man

>Magecuck
Sad

>Which is true
Which makes him perfect for this thread because it's a mystery why anyone with half a brain would like this retard.
Keep up, child.

>You need to play a real stealth game like Splinter Cell
It's the most piss easy game I've ever played

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Single-player games are not hard, I'm not sure what your point is.

But we're talking about whether the post chain is people defending him, not about whether or not he's suitable for the thread. Why so indignant? Just shitposting, or do you genuinely have this repulsive personality?

Why not?

Metal Gear is significantly more challenging and has a story that doesn't put you to sleep.

People are defending him though. Are you unironically fucking retarded? How is saying that the game isn't shit because it sold well not defending him?
You must be braindead, there is no other reasonable explanation. I bet you think calling a game "fun" is also a valid opinion when you can't bring up anything worthwhile to explain why you like it.
>it's popular so it's good
How much of a fucking degenerate are you? Please call your mom in so she can explain to you what's going on in this thread.

AI is predictable and easy to exploit. If you want challenge play against other humans.

Ah yes, I too enjoyed the amazing story of fistfighting a masochistic cyborg ninja and tricking a levitating man in a gimpsuit. Pinnacle of storytelling.

>calls someone a cuck while his family got cucked by the same bannerman twice
How does it feel when mage is better than you in melee?

You mean the guy whose bloodline I erased?

You were asked to explain why MGS 5 wasn't a game. You went on to say
>It's a dogshit version of pacman with garbage camera view interrupted by cutscenes every 5 minutes. Dumb fucking cunt should direct anime because it's obviously not working out in this medium.
Which, first off, the whole pacman analogy makes no sense.
Second off, there aren't cutsences everywhere. The main critisms of 5 is the lack of cutscenes, in fact. It's the game in the series that's pretty much all about gameplay
Third off, it clearly is working out, since the series sells so well. These are the three points the subsequent replies responded to.
Seriously, good luck with your condition. Shitposting or not, this is pathetic

>amazing story of fistfighting a masochistic cyborg ninja and tricking a levitating man in a gimpsuit.
It truly is.

Mage is okay if you play a lesbian or something I guess. Cousland is for men though.

>Please explain to me how MGS isn't a game?
>You were asked to explain why MGS 5 wasn't a game
Nobody said MGS5. I didn't even read the rest of your post. You are too fucking dumb for me to care.

does anyone actually unironically believe he isn't a traitor? surely everyone understands the definition of traitor and how this guy is a textbook treasonous cunt?

>Cousland is for men
>cannot do anything what mage cannot
>for men

youtube.com/watch?v=ul8j9I90ueM

this video is enough proof that this character is a retard and not worth listening to

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>Nobody said MGS5
Huh, you're actually correct. Sorry about that.
At any rate, you are a very disgusting person to interact with, my man

>when mage is better than you in melee?
What did he mean by this?

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>>Director of MGS2 (a shitty sequel that took like 8 years to resolve the plot)
>>Director of MGS5 (a game that meant nothing to the overall MGS series)

sounds like good reasons for me to hate Kojima

For one he can bang Morrigan with a firm grip while mages are weaklings that don't even lift

It's hard work but it gets the replies flowing in.

Arcane warrior with battlemage, enthropy and spirit-creation spec

Though I had a sneaking suspicion, I got a bit riled up. Well played, user

>mages are weaklings
Sure thing m8

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>battlemage
If you're taking Awakening into account, Rogues are easily the most overpowered class because they can become literally unkillable, followed by Warriors.

Even in the base game once you know what you're doing Warriors and Rogues overtake Mages.

>mages are weaklings
I'm going to be swinging a claymore at you, in heavy armor, while I'm shitting out fire storms.

Yeah? What's your Strength stat, mageboi?

That's what I thought.

Who needs strength when you can literally convert it from magic?

Neither warrior or rogue cannot go through the content solo so easily as mage

>Yeah? What's your Strength stat, mageboi?
Warden Commander gear says that 42+

Damn, DAO had such an awesome looking sets

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Its too bad we don't get any playable older women in more games

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You can't though, only use it to not collapse under the weight of a suit of armour. Doesn't mean you can pick up a woman as easily.

Warriors can, and arguing the relative merits of which class is better on a solo playthrough is a little tangential to the original point.

>A mage desperately emulating an actual warrior
Loving every lol

Magic becomes the strength stat when activating Arcane Warrior stance, I'm pretty sure

>warrior
Warrior? No, something much more superior

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Only for equipping weapons and armour. You do get bonus damage from your spellpower but it's not as good as building pure strength or being a warrior in the first place.

>pure strength or being a warrior in the first place.
In case of two-handed weapon mage really performs better than warrior since can increase haste

But you'll have none of the utility and magic auras that AW has

>He doesn't play a Male Cousland Two Handed Warrior that makes the most selfish and chad choices
>He doesn't use mods to make Leliana and Morrigan look better and to allow you to romance them both.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, nu/v/babs, you aren't cucks, r-right?

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I too enjoy doing that, I also like going that one magic class that is a warrior, arcane warrior i think? and just making anti mage choices

I have a bad news for you user

Blood Thirst + Swift Salve

Utility fair enough, and the magic auras are nice but they're not really necessary. In almost any given situation the best way to handle combat in this game is just 'killing things as fast as possible'
I was talking specifically about the attack/damage bonuses of Combat Magic vs playing warrior, user

>Blood Thirst
Ewwwww

Unlocking the power of blood is the future, user. Don't you want to be part of the future?

Before Awakening Blood Thirst is legit the best buff in the entire game, it's so OP

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>decide to keep Avernus alive
>unlock Arcane Warrior
>unlock battlemage
>DAI
>HoF went for searching cure from the Calling
If the path to salvation leads through the halls of purgatory, then so be it.

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So lore mentions that Tevinter still have golems gifted from the dwarves, does this golem made from dwarven souls or it's spirits binded into golem's armor?

Avernus was right and did nothing wrong, it's a shame he'll never show up again.

Made from delicious souls. They were given before the Dwarves lost the use of the Anvil, Tevinter still has them because they didn't use them for anything unlike the Dwarves who wasted most of theirs trying to find the Anvil again.

>Avernus was right and did nothing wrong, it's a shame he'll never show up again.
He and Wynne was the only good mage characters

>good strategist
>he loses against you

yeah sure bud

Morrigan was, too. It's not her fault she was raised by her bitch mother. Irving was pretty cool.

it's 10-30 years depending on one's involvement in the blight. HoF was knee deep in darkspawn throughout the blight so it makes sense that he would get the calling in inquisition which is a decade after origins

If Loghain is such a good strategist, why did he lose?

fpbp

Because he was never preparing an army against you, or never wanted to fight you, and you gathering an army of dwarves, elves, mages etc. were beneficial to defeating the blight, so he more or less let you get away with it, especially as not-France weren't involved.

Game still has him act like a retard, same with the King in Fable 3, although at least nobody pretends he was smart

>still no female Qunari romance

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And nothing value was lost

>HoF was knee deep in darkspawn throughout the blight
So as Alistair

Not if you dont take him on any missions and keep him as a benchwarmer :^)

>Irving was pretty cool.
Irving so as wewuzien is that he was more politic, rather than mage.

Too bad Flemeth was ruined in DAI

Wasn't there a tweet by a dev saying he didn't put one in on purpose because he felt people would fetishize the qunari too much, why are normalfags so scared of big titty fantasy races

yeah and he also didn't want a dwarf romance because he felt dwarf women look too similar to children

Nobody tell him women shorter than 5'5 or actual midgets exist

>players aren't allowed to fetishize races
>but shitty NPCs are

Fuck Gayder. I hope he never works in the industry again.

If you didnt execute him and forced exiled that stupid bitch cunt and put Allister on the throne youre a moronic nigger

You ever noticed how people that hate real life racism LOVE fantasy racism, like they'll joke about how much they hate elves/dwarves or whatever, almost as if they have this racism pent up inside and vidya is their only release

I love all forms of racism, fiction and nonfiction

>This thread has been literally nothing but pure unmemy discussion about the game itself
What went so horribly wrong with Bioware after ME1 and fucking DA:O? Why did everything after just have to be so bad.
It says something when even on fucking Yea Forums there is can be a full thread of actual discussing about a game that came out more than a decade ago.

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EA. The obvious scapegoat, but I really think it's true

>What went so horribly wrong with Bioware after ME1 and fucking DA:O?

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That's not what your mom said last night when I was making her scream by giving her my 14 inch dick

>Director of MGS2 (a shitty sequel that took like 8 years to resolve the plot)
brainlet

Honestly, I liked how Amell fits into the story much more

Leadership got high off the success of ME1 and DA:O which made them think they can just fuck around and still pump out a success, which lead to unreasonable expectations towards the developers, which lead them on a path of progressively worse games.

>brainlet

The Patriots were not dealt with until MGS4

That's not why you're a brainlet. Unfortunately you're too much of a brainlet to comprehend why you're a brainlet.

I'm not sure if there's a term for it, but i'm honestly excited for the trainwreck of the next game, they've already made numerous statements about the game being political i think and i just want to see how much irl politics they'll force into it only to have it backfire, i know i shouldn't

>they've already made numerous statements about the game being political
[citation needed]

>Great "argument"
Funny, since someone else even mentioned nothing about have any details logistics, yet you assume the plan would have worked without flaw because you think you see a shit ton of forced int he background with loghain while ignoring the darkspawn forces with the same thing you used to try and claim there were a ton of reserve forces. You don't have much self awareness, do you?

How does knowing when the bad guys were dealt with counts as being a "brainlet"?

I said i think, though if you google ''dragon age 4/dread wolf politics'' numerous results come up, still i wouldn't put it past them but i remain hopeful, since most ''hurr durr this game will be about trans qunari feminists'' type news comes from idiots as well

>three (3) hours to respond
>"You don't have much self awareness, do you?'

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Nah, I know what you saw. I'm just giving you a hard time because it's a single statement by the narrative director that's been taken out of proportion, mostly because a lot of people are retards who don't actually know what a narrative director does. A while back there were a bunch of bait threads and naturally this led to even more people complaining about it without bothering to check the primary source.

I mean, it might still be a trainwreck, who knows? With EA anything is possible. But on the other hand the two people most responsible for retarded politics in the previous games have both left, so maybe there is hope.

Honestly, I think that Bioware simply passed the point of no-return after DAI

>Not ME3

What the fuck? Was that actually an option?

Maybe. Like I said, the two biggest reasons Inquisition had as much garbage in it as it did have both left the company, so we'll see. They can hardly do worse than what they had.

I still feel like it'll be a trainwreck simply because of what i've seen in the past few years, but Andromeda and Anthem were bad because of the game itself, not ingame politics, although a small part of me does hope it becomes a political trainwreck and i have no idea why

ME3 could be counted as incident, while second fuck up says about regularity

Lamar from GTAV. Complete retard that does nothing but be an ignorant nwah getting Franklin into trouble and/or ruining his life but because he's the one Franklin calls for the save Michael and Trevor ending people on here defend his dumb ass vehemently

What is "Live service"?

Oh boy, because people totally have nothing else to do. That response doesn't even make any sense from an argumentative view.

Yes, Leon, we know.

It's just amusing that it took you three hours to respond, but you still haven't understood something that's more than clear enough in the original (and other) posts.

Morrigan has a plan to get pregnant and draw the dragon's spirit in her unborn baby. You can romance her, agree to the plan and refuse to be the father.

I think. I've never actually cucked myself.

Ah, alright. I was too mad at ME3 myself, and will never not be mad, but I can understand clinging to hope.

Because dwarves are bros

bioware is dead... you don't need to defend them nor their forced plots anymore.

>you don't need to defend them nor their forced plots anymore
wheredoyouthinkyouare.jpg

>Fucking pantsu on head retarded anime stories
Yet your argument to support your opinion is: "I've been here longer than you've been alive, child.". Is that supposed to qualify you? Being in Yea Forums means you have a broad, precise and smarter vision of videogames? Also, do you really want to gloat over that?

Was there more satisfying moment than small clip after saving amaranthine?
Well after selling Fenris of course

There were other reasons for those, and anyone should've seen them coming. Anthem was made by the remnants of the ME team after they'd lost everyone with talent, and had a horrible development on Frostbite besides. Andromeda was made by a completely new (as in from scratch) team to try and cash in on ME, because the ME team themselves were tired of working on the property, which should tell you all you need to know by itself.

I'm not saying it's going to be good, or even that I'm hopeful - I'm just ambivalent. But it'll be interesting to see how it turns out.

>Director of MGS
>Director of MGS2
>Director of MGS3
The truth is out Kojimadrone, we know Fukushima was the true brains behind the operation

>Director of MGS4
>Director of MGS Peace Walker
>Director of MGSV
Nothing to be proud of

He couldn't see the future though. He was a literal coward.

>starfang
doing it wrong
Cailans arms are the best arcane warrior equipment through the entire game and all the expansions

Kojima actually believes he came up with stealth in games and he thinks co-op in otherwise singleplayer games is something he invented with Death Stranding. If people still can't accept that he is a hack then I have no idea what else has to happen