Why do journalists hate FFX so much, when everyone else in the world seems to love it?

Why do journalists hate FFX so much, when everyone else in the world seems to love it?

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Do they? I thought as a FF game it game rave reviews.

FFS why do people like this shit.

My only issue is that you don't have a bar for HP/MP, only overdrive. The sphere grid was confusing for a bit but once you figure it out it's not terrible.

Why do you make shit up OP.

Contrarianism, they are literally no different from Yea Forums except the fact that they get paid to shitpost & make clickbait list about games they didn’t even play solely to appease redditors. The same critics shitting on FFX for being linear are the ones praising garbage like TLOU, HL2 & ME2

I just started IX I’m enjoying it everything has a lot of character put into it, but can someone explain what those moving green bars do in combat? The combat in general is throwing me off

I'm more concerned with the completely tedious and boring as hell trials, every character is an idiot. The game is also super short and linear as fuck. Hell considering the soundtrack I don't even think Uematsu gave a fuck about this game.

See, contrarianism just like i said

The temple trials were annoying. Honestly my biggest problem is that everyone talks so fucking slowly.

POST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU'RE POSTULATING OR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS MEANINGLESS AND WE HAVE NOTHING TO DISCUSS

brudda

hey at least it's not a crash team racing thread. furries are worse than weebs

I don't think your assertion is true.

>provides actual valid points
Hurf derf see contrarianism

Yea, don't think you know what that word means.

>soundtrack is bad

you're just wrong sweety. come back when you get your ducks in a row XD

Critics had it ranked lower than fucking FFXV on their FF game rankings, that’s how much they hate it

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The piano collection OST was amazing
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Lovedby everyone of our generation, you mean. It was a few years apart from IX, and when XI came out we were on either Runescape or WoW. For most of us it was out first, and final, Final Fantasy.

Also thought it was dumb that Auron tell you Sin is your father, and he tells you early so Tidus doesn't get all emotional at a critical time...then waits till like the end of the game to divulge oh yea Yuna gonna die btw.

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not bad just not memorable except for that Zanarkand theme or w/e

Nice bait
Nearly got me

>The game is also super short and linear as fuck
It's longer than any previous FF title though

> Besaid Island
> Fleeting Dream
> Hymm of the Fayth
> Wandering Flame
> Calm before the Storm
> Tidus’s Theme
> Ending Theme
> Seymour Omnis theme
> The Prelude
> Attack

how do people not like this game?
because its turn BASED and not cringe ATB?

you're absolutely right. it was the first one I played and was also the last solid entry to the franchise.

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i respect your opinion but there isn't a single bad track on the OST; and it's a big soundtrack, too. it's arguably the finest part of the game.

Such shit taste shouldn’t be possible

every final fantasy game is loved and hated in equal measure

FFX is pretty mediocre actually. Story was really predictable (gee, I wonder if Yuna is gonna have to die to defeat Sin??), Tidus was obnoxious, voice acting was bad, Seymour was a shit villain, blitzball was TERRIBLE, and it was linear af. I think the reason people love it as much as they do is that it was their first FF.

>Final Fantasy bad
>insta 1000000 clicks for your article
Easy

Really? Eh 6 and 7 felt longer to me but then again it was years ago

wandering flame makes me feel like a squashed apple, weeping precious fluids

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T. Zoomer who bases his opinions from the spoony video & that laugh monent which was extremely well done and sad because of how well written Yuna & Tidus are. But brainlets don’t understand this because they can only comprehend surface level storytelling

From that list Besaid is the only one I can hear immediately in my head. But I still think 3,6, and 7 are more memorable.

HAHAHAHAHA

X is not even a top 5 FF game. People like it for the same reason some like VII (muh first FF).

Kill yourself

I'm not a fan of most FF minigames but blitzball was pretty fucking cancerous

linearity is not a damning feature user. Even an open-world game like RDR2 is linear in terms of its central plotline. Devs still have yet to refine a true open-ended experience.

And it's a JRPG. The story doesn't have to be great, in fact it doesn't even have to come close. The game succeeds in creating unique (if overdesigned and questionably dressed) characters and locales. The worldbuilding and lore is solid enough, and the plot doesn't go off the rails in an incomprehensible fashion. It's the best one they've made. It's probably the best jrpg.

at the very least it was the first to incorporate a fully voiced story with facial animations. it's a landmark title

He's right though.

That's why anyone likes any of the FF games that aren't 5 or Tactics. The fanbase is dominated by pure nostalgia

I thought the voice acting was alright why do people think it is bad? No, the forced laughter scene doesn't count because it was suppose to sound goofy. You can certainly call it "cringe" tho

> FFV fags thinking their shit game is relevant when all people care about is 6, 7, T, 9 & 10

>journalists

FFX is an odd duck, because the people who love it (like me) really LOVE it, but the people who don't just don't think much of it.

Unlike VIII, where the people who hate it REALLY hate it.

> It's the best one they've made. It's probably the best jrpg.
Have you played IX? Because it literally blows X out of the water, especially in terms of story and characters, and it came out a year earlier.

but it doesn't match X's presentation and overall quality.

IX is half made and the side characters do not have complete storylines.

What was the point of the frog chef?

FF9’s story was utter dogshit, People ignored the lacklustre story due to how incredible the world building & characters were

Eh memorable to me is something like:
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or
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Considering the story takes up so much of your time and the cutscenes can't be skipped the story better be fucking good. But it ain't good it's just serviceable

The story is literally incredible though, best ending in the history of video games

the same could be said for ~80% of video games. If you want a great story read a book; it sounds reductive but it's the truth. Games offer a diverse variety of content and can't be judged solely on their attendant narrative content.

Im a journalist and I like the game. It's combat and lvl up systems are great. My biggest gripe is the game starting the hallway exploration.

Who cares? Quina's the best blue mage in the series.

Terra is literally the best mage in the series & puts everyone to shame

The story was fine. It was better than most FFs, save for maybe outliers like VI. X's was a fucking mess. The story put me to sleep. At least IX kept me invested.

FF9’s pacing is fucking horrible, literally unplayable by disc 3.

What does that even mean? IX is a beautiful game and one of the best looking on the PS1. It's not like X towers above it in presentation. X doesn't do anything BADLY but it doesn't do anything particularly well either. Hence why it's mediocre.

Come on guy

I never said the game should have an amazing story. The game beats you over the head with the story so much that you can't really get to the juicy battling until you're past Djose temple and that's being generous. My complaint is if the game is going to have so much unavoidable story it better be a good story to sit through. But it ain't good it's just serviceable.

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Play Tactics if that's all you want.

Incidentally Amarant is the most pointless character in the game.

> 10/10 Music
> 10/10 romance
> 10/10 world building
> 10/10 storytelling
FFX is amazing

IX is definitely in the VIII range of 'good story'.

well voice acting for one thing. X has it, IX doesn't. It looks and sounds much better than IX. This can't be argued, but it may also be silly to compare them. It's like comparing The Fellowship of the Ring to the Two Towers. They're just parts of the same whole at the end of the day

that's the worst comparison I've heard today

It's more like comparing the Daniel Craig era of Bond to the Pierce Brosnan Bond

i don't the game has awful characters and story

How can anyone hate the music in any of these games? Plot, characters and game mechanics I can completely understand having serious issues with, but the music is always superb.

it's like pre-recession Twinkies to post-recession Twinkies

>critics
>meaning people who review video games for a living
Yeah nah, their opinions never matter.

>af.
Why does this not get filtered? I hate you fucking millenials so much.

Nothing you said is at all true.

you WILL listen to my story

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Never said I hated them geez ppl simply said I don't find X's music specifically very memorable. Doesn't loop through my head like other games tracks do. More like I don't have strong feelings one way or another towards X's ost

continue to be angry

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> 10/10 Music
Some decent tunes. Nothing that puts it above any other FF though. FFIV, VI, VII, VIII, and IX all have better OSTs desu.
> 10/10 romance
Better than Squall and Rinoa, worse than Zidane and Garnet. It's about on par with Cloud & Tifa so I give it a 7/10.
> 10/10 world building
The world was well constructed. I'll give you that. Very detailed locales and races. One of the best in the series.
> 10/10 storytelling
Lmao. No way. FFX's story is about on par with The Spirits Within. Some half-baked spiritual ideas that were done way more effectively in previous entries and done with almost no flair.

>no spira unplugged
>no seymours ambition
>no ject theme
>no servants of the mountain
>no sute ki da ne
>no the blitzers
>no otherworld
>no machalania woods

it's like you didn't even autistly listen to the soundrack for the past 20 years user

FFX is OK, but pic related did its HA HA HA HA HA tier scenes way better, and improved on almost every other part of FFX as well

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Nah man that story was shit and poorly written.

>The game is also super short
nigga what
>overlooking every characters' walking and running animations which makes them look like fucking special ed elementary school students

I have powerful nostalgia for IX, and it still has my favorite characters, but I very recently played through both IX and X and I have to say that X is better. X improves on almost everything that IX and previous games stumbled on. Combat is finally bearable, the story is much more focused from the very start and almost all the major characters are decently written. Playing X right after IX I really noticed how much better the cast in X was overall in comparison to IX. Also, IX's story falls apart at the end while X's story manages to stay together the entire time.

Not trying to hate on IX at all, it's still my favorite for nostalgia reasons and always will be, but as someone who can try to think impartially I think X is a better game.

Oh, you're one of THOSE people.

You'll pull up some obscure game that most people don't have opinions about and claim that 'truly, this is superior to [mainstream game] in every meaningful fashion'.

And then people play it and it turns out the menus have slightly better function flow or something like that.

An hero

that's not an obscure game though, it's tales of symphonia on the nintendo gamecube

Only complaint I ever hear about the voice acting is the laughing scene, but that's because people are retarded and don't understand it

Not him but tales games are fucking trash

The english voice acting is pretty bad. I don't think I could play it without the japanese voice acting.

STOP

The game is easily 50 hours and it's one of the best OST's out there, period.

Thanks for proving my point

This motherfucker doesn't know that Courage is the Magic that turns Dreams into Reality!

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what would you have it filtered as?
inordinately?

The story and characters are much weaker than older games, and the game is far too linear. Blitzball is stupid and the minigames for ultimate weapons can suck a dick. It's better than XIII and XV, but that's not saying much. A lot of people think that being the first with voice acting makes it intently good. It doesn't, and it marked the start of the series' decline from greatness to mediocrity and eventually trash.

It doesn't matter what it's filtered to. I want the old Yea Forums back that understood why this kind of normalfag lingo doesn't belong here.

The hand drawn assets in IX blow X out of the water.

>A lot of people think that being the first with voice acting makes it intently good.
I really don't think anyone here thinks that. Also,
>implying it isn't better than 13
Pretty bad opinion.

>all the steam versions of the old games are these shitty ass chibi abomination remakes

>I really don't think anyone here thinks that
Can you read?
>implying it isn't better than 13
Okay then. You literally can't read.

Don't talk shit about blitzbahll, still wish they would put in in FFXIV

>implying it isn't better than 13
>Pretty bad opinion.
But he said it was better than XIII, I think you need glasses my man

Saying something has a feature for the first time IS a landmark. The original poster didnt say it is the thing that makes it good.

And one user is not same as A LOT of anons. You need to step up, senpai.

vidya journalists used to be people who just didn't care that much and wanted to sell you magazines.
now they're twitter nerds

>backtracking and trying to talk in circles to pretend you weren't wrong
>Ignoring that you're literally too stupid to read plain English
Your opinion is invalid.

Dude, this was the first yome replying you. You need to chill. Your ego can't seem to handle someone disagreeing you or showing the mistakes in your argument.

ffx is fantastic and has the best ost you cucks

>But he said it was better than XII
You're right. I need to sleep.

>Tidus 'muh father'
>Yuna 'muh father'
>Auron 'yer fathers'
>Seymours gay ass 'muh fuhja, muh mouhja"
>Wakka 'Fuck All Beds'
>also Wakka 'muh brudda'
>Lulu 'muh guardians role'
>Kimari 'muh ronso horn'
>Ject 'muh responsibilties'
>also Ject 'fuck responsibilities'
>Yu Yevon 'angry spider noises'
>Sin 'REEEEEEEEEEEEE'
This the every cutscene ever.

nah i agree with the other guy, you're a bit of a puff twatter guv

>Yu Yevon
>capable of actual thought after 1k years keeping the summoning going

You both talk like underage retards. X is a mediocre game, get over it.

oh sweety it's sad seeing you like this! please come back to the land of the living!!

If X is only mediocre then every other game must be fucking terrible

He's a nintendo fan, if ffx was on the gamecube and tales of symphonia was on ps2, he'd have a different point of view.

don't listen to him brudda, i think he's a fiend

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>sweety
Not even as a joke.

>it's also super short
What game did you play? Doing nothing but the story, with a set team of 3, is 40 hours, easy.

40 hours for an rpg is pretty fucking short

weebs are worse

how can you say that? Just seeing people post rat-faced bandicoots makes me seethe.

tidus: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHUUUH lol

facts

But this is stacked up against the rest of the series, which it's either of similar length, or longer. When taking in to account the side content, it's easily one of the longest in the franchise, and blows every FF before it out of the water. Maybe compared to Persona or Xenoblade, it's short, but in terms of what had come before it in the series, saying it's super short just isn't true.

please everyone play this rpg game tho youtube.com/watch?v=cKz4FI8FoWA

Journalists have awful goddamned taste, you should know this by now. At the time, I remember one reviewer bitching that the final boss 'required' grinding and it was obvious he was blowing through the game as fast as he could for review crunch.

Nah, I've been playing FF since getting the first one for Christmas back in '90, and I'd still put FFX in my top 5. Age has nothing to do with it.

That's 40 hours pretty much going balls deep into the story, it's like 200 hours if you include side shit

for real i have not seen a furry post a rat faced bandicoot where did you see that

Makes sense I played Xenoblades, Skies of Arcadia, Tales of ect. before I played X

>For most of us it was out first, and final, Final Fantasy
You know nothing child, most peoples first FF was VII

And this is why I quit this shitty game.

crash team racing threads

oh ok well i see what you mean

ffx live action when bros...

>whole party journeys together
>everyone is in cutscenes and interacts throughout, the player doesn't miss fun dialog because they don't have specific people at a story junction you can't return to
>everyone can be swapped in during combat, continuing that everyone is on this pilgrimage and most people have a role
>can still go off the "designated" grid and make your own builds.
X did a lot of things better than previous games, and I think the feeling of being apart of a group and the combat are particularly some of the peaks of the franchise. It makes no sense to why people split up in FF7

>everyone says that the laugh moment is supposed to be awkward and terrible because MUH TUMBLR EMOTIONS
>nobody can ever defend the fact that the scene, and every cutscene for that matter, is completely unskippable even on subsequent playthroughs, and has never once been fixed in any re-release

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Your opinion is correct and others are wrong, because YOU have your opinion. I'm really sorry others pester you with their incorrect opinions.

To anyone ragging on the translation, let me give you a quick rundown on why it's not the translators fault:

>given script, realizes mouth movements will remain unchanged from japanese scripts(japanese is a different language from english as you may know)
>Asks squeenix to pay for an expert who wanted $2k/day to reanimate the mouth movements to fit the script
>squeenix say no, so translator has to work with what he's got leading to a lot of unnatural sounding dialogue

Please don't rag on the translator, he's a genuinely talented guy, just had to work with shitty conditions

>temple trials were annoying
this kind of thing is literally why we can't have good things anymore. you people seem to want less good in general and just more instant gratification

and this was from a fucking time when people were angry at the fact that FF broke tradition with X

Imagine thinking typing like a sarcastic tumblrina makes you sound witty.

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Imagine losing your shit because people correct your faulty arguments and have different preferences.

FF12 is the only decent FF I've played. And I emphazise decent. It's really not that great.

Can anyone confirm this? This sounds completely batshit and hilarious.

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I can confirm.

x is shit
so are most FF games infact
XII is the only good one in 3d

This is the funniest shit I've read today

Wait what?

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No more "clever" sarcasm?

>because people correct your faulty arguments
Where did this happen?

So why is the island covered in exploding blitzballs

First of all it has the best gameplay which is somehow overlooked by many FF fans. The combat system is simply superior to all the other entries. They went for a clear more tactical turn based combat instead of the mess of ATB and independent summons were great.
The leveling/customization system is the best too, nothing matches the sphere grid. You can go fully control the progression of all characters. Only 5 offered something similar.
There is much more side content. Some of it the best in FF, some questionable but you don't need to do it.
Worldbuilding and music are on par with other good FF. Also the party stays grouped except for a tiny moment in prison. So you don't miss content merely because you didn't pick your shit fighter on your combat group.
The pacing is much better than other entries. VIII and IX were particular offenders here.
The graphical design is excellent and breaks the generic sci-fi/fantasy that had plagued the previous titles.

Honestly the only point for which it's not the best in the series is the characters, where it's indeed one of the worst. They are serviceable at best, everyone outside the journey and the enemies in particular are trash, and half the main cast is still bland or useless. I suspect the haters are muh characters plebs so common among weebs.

>actually, unironically defending unskippable cutscenes

You've lost the plot.

yeah everybody wants the option to skip cutscenes but that aspect doesn't influence my overall opinion of a game

>First of all it has the best gameplay which is somehow overlooked by many FF fans
Spam poison early game. Spam quickhit late game.

>The leveling/customization system is the best too
It's just a worse version of XII's.

>There is much more side content
All loaded near the end of the game because the first 80% is straight linear, and a lot of the side content is awful grinding minigames. It doesn't have the exploration and side quests the older games have.

>Worldbuilding and music are on par with other good FF. Also the party stays grouped except for a tiny moment in prison. So you don't miss content merely because you didn't pick your shit fighter on your combat group.
>The pacing is much better than other entries
This is all just wrong. The music is good, but the world, party characterization and pacing are all worse than older games by a wide margin.

>The graphical design is excellent
The prerendered backgrounds of the PS1 games aged far better.

>and breaks the generic sci-fi/fantasy
But IX was the one that stopped the SciFi/fantasy setting.

It does when people try and defend ironic humor like the tidus haha scene. If you're gonna shove in that kind of reddit humor, at least let me skip it.

I love X. It's so comfy. And the music is great. Now I wanna play it again.

its real

dude, it's not "reddit humor". That scene was Tidus trying to cheer Yuna up. Their exaggerated expression of happiness mirrors the absurdity of their circumstances.

I am just glad that I didn't have a console and didn;t have to play such protag

Comfy ffx movie stream with Yea Forumsros when?

Because the game only gets good like mid-late game.

wow, it's almost like you spend half the game unlocking abilities, spells and finding companions. It's almost like.... an RPG...

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>tfw you'll never have an underwater make out session with an aeon summoning pure virgin waifu.

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Never heard of that before. it will go into the list

soon

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ok thank you fellow cool user

And the scene would've been much more poignant if Tidus wasn't a baby who constantly cried about his father issues, and Yuna would be more endearing if she wasn't a doormat.

i like X, but honestly its baffling how XIII always gets shit on by being linear as hell while X gets away scot free

true i like ff13 idk why people shit on it harshly

The only FF game I've ever skipped was XIII and i'm not a hardcore fan of the series. XIII was just so damn boring and it's only saving grace in the hour I played it was the battle theme.

If you think all RPGs are like that you need to play better games.

2 words
Boar
Ring

oh well i respect your opinion imo i think its fun

This

i respect your opinion but i like ffXlll the combat is cool i really like how you can launch enemies in the air

Back when it came out it was my favorite game ever, and a game mag I subscribed to only gave it like 89/100, without even specifying what was wrong with it. Boy, I was mad

FFX is one of the greatest games ever made. Legendary ost, extremely well written characters and story, too class turn based combat, great world with rich lore.

Even Dan Ryckert loved it and he hates Japanese things outside metal gear and mario.

You have to be a special kind of contrarian to dislike FFX or have played it in extremely poor conditions.

It's not that good user, it's just your nostalgia.

ride ze shoopuf?

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NOW
THIS IS IT

Tell me a better RPG.

There is nothing wrong with X-2

Any Persona really

I love Persona too but the story telling doesnt even come close. Not to mention battle, the world, graphical and technical qualities are all better. Music is very good im Persona but FFX is on a completely different level