What do you think?

I'd say no. You can enjoy seeing a playthrough but you don't know if you like a game enough to call yourself a fan if you don't actually play the game. It's like saying you're a fan of Terminator even if you only read the script.

>video
>game
>Can you say you like game when you only like video?
Gee i wonder

The only reason was because I was a little stupid shit in my younger age and tought
"ho I will not buy this game, so let's watch that YouTuber I like actually do a let's play"
God fuck I would punch my past self by litteraly got spoiled the full paper Mario TTYD story and almost got ruined portal 2
Atleast he was enough smart for not ruining the fun of the half life series

Starfox Zero probably looks great if you just watch it.

if its a ps4 game then yes totally

can you be a fan of a book if you've only seen the movie adaptation?
can you be a fan of a movie if you've only read the screenplay?

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>What do you think?
That you should stop posting literally who twitter threads.

>Joker profile pic (Smash model)
>@DatDiscordBoy
>the people
>1,526 votes

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>1,526 votes
>On Twitter, the “have the worst opinions” website
No shit people on twitter will have the worst opinions.
This is like going to Texas or California for your election polls.

>twitter screencap OP
>@DiscordBoy
Honestly this board should just burn to the fucking ground at this point.

He's right you know. My ex girlfriend watched tons of video games that I played and was a fan of persona, takes series, even Yakuza. But she never touched them why? Because they were single player and she couldn't play.

Yea Forums obviously thinks it works in the opposite direction, in which you decide you hate a game from watching a youtube video, so I don't see why this wouldn't be true as well.

>I guess but that's just cheating yourself out of an experience
Nah man, you're jut cheating yourself out of life for wasting more time than necessary on video games.

Im a fan of Asura's Wrath but I've only watched a playthrough of it..

Was homeless a while back and watched a RDR2 playthrough... when I was finally back on my feet and played it myself it wasn't enjoyable anymore. I had ruined it for myself.

>these 1526 out of 7 billion niggers who bothered to engage with a literal who like me said this therefore it's true
Social media was a mistake
Also
>username

>can you be a fan of a book if you've only seen the movie adaptation?
As sad as it is, most people would say yes to this.

Can you be a fan of a movie if you only read a plot synopsis on wikipedia?

>datdiscordboy

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I never played any dark souls but I always call people here casual faggots if they say they don't like it

Tell us stories about your homelessness

How about lending the controller once in a while? Maybe she wouldn't be your ex
...by wasting time watching a video instead?
.

yes but only if it's a jrpg

>he said, as he wasted hundreds of thousands of hours watching TV/movies, listening to music, engaging in nonprofit recreation, or reading books

>Love GMod gametypes
>Basically never play it because all my friends hate GMod and refuse to play it with me
>Have to satisfy the itch with watching Youtubers on more days than not, because these days finding good randos for a game is exceedingly difficult.

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>Discord
>Smash render of Joker
>Twitter
I think he doesn't matter

That's like being a fan of a tv show but you've never actually watched it, just heard other people talk about it.

Sure but if you're a fan then you should likely go play it at some point

can you be a fan of a book if you've only heard the audiobook adaptation?

you should play it, it's fun.

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That'd be like me saying I'm a fan of American Psycho the book because I like checking dubs.

So what does it mean to be a fan, to just like it? Then yeah, sure. Whatever.

What you don't get to do is tell others how the game should be changed.

Story-driven games with zero choices like Naughty Dog games and the like don't need to be played to be properly experienced, I feel.

RPGs that are filled with choices that affect the interactions and gameplay are a different story. You aren't a real fan and are at a disservice if you choose to watch retards scream and cry on a facecam while they make the choices for you.

>Enjoying something other people play
Are youtuber the ultimate bulls?
Bonus points if they've got a patreon or just "got" this game from their fans.

youtu.be/yuN4395r_Oo

Can you be a fan of a series if you only like its characters?
Can you be a fan of a series if you only like its music?

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Secondaries need to be exterminated

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>Story-driven games with zero choices like Naughty Dog games and the like don't need to be played to be properly experienced, I feel.
Being in full control of your character and then gettign cockslapped with "LOL NAthan loses to the niggress" is important, it affects your feeling of powerlessness against a retard that can't make a threatening woman and/or a good reason why it happens.
Someone that just watches shit happen won't go
>I could have done better in gameplay

yes

next question

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>if you only like its music
Enjoying DOOM's soundtrack is one thing
Enjoying DOOM as a game is another
Enjoying DOOM's game and soundtrack in perfect symbiosis is a patrician privilege that people that only heard or watched can't achieve.

OUUUUGHHH IM GONNA COOOOM, SAUCEEE??

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No. The only exception I can think of if it's walking simulator tier, where there's no actual interactivity, just an illusion of it. I'd see a playthrough of those almost like watching a shitty movie made by a pretentious college student.

yeah but how many people?
20 voters voting 17 to 3 would create those stats

There wouldn't be any ps4 fans otherwise

>1526 votes
It says on the bottom

>1526 votes
user no Baka

like not of the gameplay
you'd be a fan of the game's story, artstyle and music

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>Being in full control of your character and then gettign cockslapped with "LOL NAthan loses to the niggress" is important, it affects your feeling of powerlessness against a retard that can't make a threatening woman and/or a good reason why it happens.
I believe you can get this from seeing clips of it alone. If you've never played an Uncharted game you'd still know that Nathan is a super experienced treasure hunter by game 4 and the fact he's losing to some girl that is several inches smaller and with a build that is significantly less than Nathan is ridiculous, whether you play it or not.
I definitely think playing any game in general will give you an advantage in discussion and experience, but watching it can get you close to a feeling for games like Uncharted.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that since the twitterfag in the OP made that poll and has a Joker PFP displays he never played Persona 5, and when you have a game like that with possibly over hundreds of choices of what you say, do in your free time, and make your Personas you're easily missing 90% of the game that you should be doing yourself, especially considering it will affect gameplay, dialogue, and other story elements.

Well yeah, but you'll still be called a filthy secondary

You CAN be a fan of a game without playing it, because fan only means you like it a lot and won't shut up about it. Your opinions on it won't have any merit or value though unless you actually not only play it, but 100% it.

Can you be a fan of a football team that you only watched in tv?

stupid ass comparison. please keep your 85-IQ analysis to yourself.

I really don't care anymore.
What matters is that I enjoy what I like and that's it, other people can say or do anything they want, it's not my problem.

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People really watch full playthroughs on youtube? what the fuck.

I think if I cared what literal who niggers were saying on twitter, I'd make a fucking twitter account. Kill yourself

Wow, that is completely untrue. I can, however, be a fan of a game I've never played or even watched a playthrough of if it has lots of high quality porn.

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most of it was pathetic and boring like waking up in my car having pissed myself, the interesting stuff that happened off the top of my head was just this big fat mongolian-looking tramp that would frequent the same areas of town that I did and charge my car on sight/try to spit through the window because I wouldn't give him money

I'm a fan of some of the Telltale Games, but I've never played a single one of those.

>I believe you can get this from seeing clips of it alone.
Different user here. You get the idea from watching a video but it doesn't match actually being in that position.
An example from my childhood would be Earthbound, the part where you choose to have your legs broken, arms broken, etc. That shit isn't effective unless you're the one agreeing to it.

Anons are already fans of games even when it hasn't come out yet.

>profile picture is from Persona 5
fitting considering that 90% of that game's fans never played it

Fucking secondaries.

Can I lose my virginity by watching porn?

It's a great comparison though. Most people would laugh at you for saying you're a fan of a book if you haven't read it.

Agreed, I still believe you can see why scenes like that would be emotional and shocking but you'll never get the true feeling. I definitely think that people who simply watch walkthroughs of games and act like they're on the same levels of people that played are asinine.

This. Telltale """games""" for example

No, but you can make video essays about sex.

If you playing the game and someone else playing the game would be fundamentally different, you can not be a fan of that game just by watching them.
If the game is a bunch of cutscenes and shot-reverseshot dialogs i.e. the "cinematic experience" you can be a fan just from a video because the game isn't focused on being a game.

in chad's eye no
but in god's you will have

Sure, but if you're a fan, you should probably play it.

Unless it's a VN or something in which case there isn't really any point.

I can read a bunch of engineering books and call myself an engineer, 99% of the companies or individual people to whom I could offer my services to would laugh at my face and tell me to fuck off

Yes, but your opinion on the gameplay is less valuable.

There are a lot of Silent Hill fans who have never played a single Silent Hill game.

>DatDiscordBoy
>Twitterscreencap thread
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK Yea Forums HOLY FUCK

Kek

it's actually from smash. smashfags and nincels in general have never played P5, only watched a playthrough

why would you consider yourself a "fan" if you don't even like it enough to play it yourself?
maybe you enjoyed it but it doesn't make you a fan

My point is, as a watcher you can't really FEEL like Nathan Drake experience the capabilities and limitations of Nathan as a controllable character, him losing to nigress-chan, to a watcher, is just "oh this guy that was winning a few moments ago just lost", instead of "YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT FIGHT BACK GODDAMN JUST ROLL AND PUNCH HER IN THE FACE YOU'VE DONE THIS 30 TIMES BEFORE FUCK"

I understand ND games do whatever they want in cutscenes, but if we move this to an RPG, to "that segment of the game where 5 lowlevel fags surround you and you got captured" or the endless debate of Cutscene Dante vs. Gameplay Dante, it's just not the same. You're not really enjoying video games (an interactive medium first and foremost) to it's full extent.
Just like "QTE" gameplay.
Just like easy mode.
Just like cheating.
Just like hacking.
Just like paying to win.
Just like playing those mobile cashgrabs.

We've come to the point where "Video Game Fans™" DON'T HAVE TO PLAY VIDEO GAMES, user.

it's more like
>can you be a fan of a book if you've only listened to the audio version?
most sane people would say yes

>can you be a Fanatic?
This boils down to "Not a true scottsman" argument.
Truth is, people can end up being all kinds of ridiculous things, for the stupidest reasons.

Lets ignore the "fanatic" word, and try to answer the question, based on intent.
They would be someone who has some sort of appreciation for a product, despite not directly participating in it fully, but only partially.

>The secondaries have spoken.
Friendly reminder to gatekeep everything, even if you're an avid knitter or something.

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>P5 profile pic
everytime, I bet these are also the same people claiming that it's the best JRPG ever jej

I nearly did the same thing with Bioshock because I couldn't afford a ps3 and wanted to hear all the audiotapes in conjunction with the story.
Thankfully, the guy whose playthrough I was watching, Snoork, dropped the series citing that he lost the save file and then never picked it up again.

No, you're a fan of the person that did the LP.

And now you know what Fate fans felt for all these years.

No but you can definitely pretend to be one and still have a more informed opinion on it than your normalfag friends.

t. sociopath

Depends, watching a let's play and reading wikis makes you invested on the world, characters, and story said series has to offer. though it doesn't make you a fan of the gameplay style unless it has a reputation of being a spectator sport through it's competitive/speedrunning meta

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Listening and reading require the same level of participation. Watching a game changes it from an active experience into a passive one. Something is lost

You can be a fan of Touhou without playing the games.

a game? no

a movie dressed as a game? sure

>no counterargument, only insults
interesting

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NO COMMENTARY master race here.

Can you be a fan of a movie if you've only watched it and didn't create it?

Can you be a fan of a society if you didn't have an epic gamer moment?

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Only a filthy secondary.

Yes, but you've got to acknowledge that you haven't experienced it in the exact same way as someone who played it themselves. It doesn't need to come up at every juncture, but player agency, inputting the commands yourself - that changes the experience, and it's what most games are catered towards in development.

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Are you sexually active if you've only watched porn?

>yeah man i better watch TAS bot walkthrough to save me some more time

Unless you play it you have no right to talk about it. Fuck off, zoomers.

fan
noun

someone who admires and supports a person, sport, sports team, etc.:
More than 15,000 Liverpool fans attended Saturday's game.

He's a great fan of country music.

I'm pleased to meet you - I'm a big fan of your work.

So by definition, if you admire a thing you can be a fan of it. Though I'd argue you'd have to both admire and support to be an actual fan of something. So technically, someone can watch an LP of a game, buy it and still count as a fan.

Of course the fuck not. Gaming is an interactive medium. If you are not interacting with it you are not experiencing it. It's like watching a movie with the sound off and claiming you're a fan of that movie.

yes.
Masturbation is a sexual activity.

>and supports
Yeah I'm sure watching and "experiencing" a game for free is supporting them. After all, twitch views = loads-e-money for the devs

Yea Forums does the opposite.
i.e. can you hate a game so vehemently and intensely, you spend hours every day trying to prevent people from even discussing the game even if you've never played it?

Why do discord trannies like P5 so much? Seem like they haven't actually played it, and there's no gay/tranny shit in it

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can you be a fan of a game without playing it? absolutely, there are so many different ways to watch people play games
will people judge and make fun of you for it? absolutely, you dense motherfucker. no sense in flaunting your casualness

zoomers.. I can kind of sympathize though. While there wasn't Youtube or Twitch when I was a kid, there was G4TV and I watched the fuck out of it. If they had full playthroughs of games on there I don't think I'd stop watching. I'd still want to play the game of course even if I watched the whole thing since gameplay was 99% of what games were back then. youtube.com/watch?v=6DotoNoAJKI&list=PLEX4qEWdfFxLO1y8MVJn9Mzzz6q6vf642

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You should play darkstalkers, they're fun

>So technically, someone can watch an LP of a game, buy it and still count as a fan

Read the whole post.

Pirates aren't fans either now that I think of it.

>sympathizing at all
i cannot empathize with this sentiment at all

Do people actually think a comparison like this makes sense or are they jsut baiting?

My gut response was no but you pushed me toward yes

You can be a fan of anything. I love Asura's Wrath despite never playing a single gameplay segment.

But you should not accept any statements I make about the gameplay. I wasn't there.

If you wanna talk about how cute Futaba is, of course you can be a fan; but it's not gatekeeping when the conversation turns to the relevance of buffs in Persona, SMT and other games, and we rightly tell you to fuck off with your "opinion" because you've got no clue how the game's actually played.

Does it really matter in a situation where a series has so much fan created content that the fan created content basically IS the fandom? It's kind of similar to people who call themselves Doom fans but only play Brutal Doom. Sure a minority of purists can voice their displeasure but most other fans don't actually care.

This desu senpai

/thread

Just seeing this twitter profile made me instinctively angry.

I like watching videos of people playing Mario Party, but I've never played it myself because I have no friends

it mostly comes down to kids who find it easier to watch someone do a playthrough for free rather than have to get their parents to spend 60 bucks on a game. if you are an adult however and already spending valuable time on videogames, you would be a fool to watch someone else play a game than play it yourself.

That's a pretty good summation. Fan is a pretty nebulous word, feel free to ignore anyone whose opinion you dont feel is substantiated enough

Ok,
can we change it a little?

Can you be a fan of a series if you've only seen the movie adaptation?
Or
Can you be a fan of a series if you've only read the book?
E.g. LOTR
The answer is yes.

The only unacceptable one is "I'm a fan of the series because i like that one character/symbol/etc from the series, even though i know practically nothing at all of the series"

This, but also by not playing your opinion is less than worthless in regards to it's quality

>if you are an adult however and already spending valuable time on videogames, you would be a fool to watch someone else play a game than play it yourself.
Watching a playthrough can be a way more economical use of time though, which is a resource just like money. A playthrough of Dark Souls who knows what they're doing can be done in a fraction of the time than a first time playthrough

>of a series
Haha if I change the whole argument I win!

I respectfully agree. I'm a gan of P.T. even though I'll never play it outside of the Unreal remake

>A smash fag using the smash render of Joker asking this type of question

Gee, it's almost as if he's trying to cope with something

I'm not big on fan gatekeeping. I dislike the GAMUR GIRL screening of thinking being a fan means knowing everything about the media or 100%ing it.

With that said, I know a friend that actually irks me because he often makes social media posts about being the biggest fan of things and spending exorbitant amounts of money on merch for the game series, but hasn't played them at all. I remember him making a huge deal out of the time we got to meet Suda 51 and got his autograph (he brought his copy of NMH to the event just in case we ran into him), but when I started to make conversation about the game after Suda left, he said, "Oh I haven't actually played any of the NMH games. I just really like their style."

This man immediately commissioned a TSA Travis Jacket when the game dropped. Not sure why that guy's specific case bugs me when I'm fine with people only playing a game a little bit and being a fan.

You'd understand it if you played games instead of Snoy movies

You can be a fan for sure, you can even engage in story discussion if you really went the full mile and consumed all of the story.

You have no credibility in the arena of gameplay matters, though.

>Persona 5 profile pic
Checks out. There is something so annoying about seeing ironic weebs talk online about how they love persona after they watched some zoyboy play P5 on YouTube.

Can you be a fan of a book series if all you've seen is fanart of the characters?

>can you hate a game without even playing it

Can you be a fan of a band if you've only worn their merch?

yes but if you are already wasting time in videogames you might as well do it properly. pirate it if you don’t think it’s worth the money

This is how it was for me when I began being a Pokemon fan. Started with the anime and ended with playing the games. Retiring as a fan now I'm done with SM.

If you were a fan you would like it enough to go and play it yourself.
Fan should be a term for people who actually like something enough to take initiative regarding it and seek out new content, not just people that played it once and thought “it was cool, I guess”.

Popular anime friend simulator about changing society, I suppose. And under a certain light, bending society to your will.

Smash fags are not fans of the actual series represented in smash

>thinking being a fan means knowing everything about the media or 100%ing it.
Nobody think this or ever did. It was always a strawman.

how about you try explaining why it doesn't make sense, mr. bigbrain. maybe we can have a conversation about it.

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You not only need friends, but need to have mature friends to play mario party. I've had multiple games ruined because salty faggots either shut off the console or crash the emulator by rage quitting if they get styled on too hard.

No, but the normalfags are majority now and you're all them. So fuck if my opinion matters anymore.

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It really wasn't. It's a thing a lot of snotty teenagers did. It gets ballooned to cartoonish proportions in daytime TV, but the idea of nerds gatekeeping because someone doesn't know something, or likes the wrong aspect, or us ignorant of some other aspect, because they feel like it encroaches on their self-chosen identity as a "real fan" is and was a real phenomenon.

That depends on your priorities. Watching the playthrough still gives you
>the music
>the environments
>the story/characters
>some exciting combat moments
etc.
At a fraction of the time you can use to sleep or do other things

this
you can already say if you liked it or not with a ps4 game. it's a movie. you can't change that much, in the end is the fucking same

I'm afraid of confrontation so I just make snide drive-by comments and duck out of the thread before anybody can respond to me

>Maybe she wouldn't be your ex
look, we have a 'don juan' right here

My retort was about the exaggeration not the existence of "gatekeeping".
And considering the existence of posers (which GIRL GAMERS are) I'd add that there is nothing with it. Fundamentally the only people who get butthurt about 'gatekeeping' are dishonest people being called out.

well, kojima is creating a new genre where you don't even need to play the game. is not even out and has a lot of fans already! sick bastard

have fun in your next thread

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I disagree, but Twitter users aren't people anyway, so he's wrong on all points.

this guy gets it

not "THE people"
just "(some of) the people who see this tweet"

People saying, "You didn't even finish the series? How can you say you're a fan?" would fall under being mad someone didn't 100% the content, no?

People saying something like, "How did you not know these characters were related in this way? How can you say you're a fan of you don't even get that basic plot line?" would fall under being mad someone doesn't know everything, no?

These are common gatekeeping comments.

I find it hard to believe someone can be a fan of a game or game series if they played it, but never beat it. But fucking zoomers think it’s perfectly acceptable to say you’re a fan if you’ve never even played it.

/thread

why does the label "fan" even need to be justified go outside you dumb faggots

because nowadays companies cater to their fans but of course you wouldn't know that since you're a /pol/fag who only comes here to shitpost

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>anime art style
>cute girlss :DDD
>regular teenager at day, superhero at night
>le evul and corrupt adults are running the world! teenagers rule! the police can't do anything right!
>already has quite a big fandom to get validation from
hm I sure wonder why discord trannies are leeching this game

since most games are shitty movies now it makes sense that you can fully experience what they have to offer over youtube

>fake trendy nerds will vote to award themselves fan status with minimal effort required on their part
Shocking. Next you'll tell me that poor people will vote for more welfare.

No. Absolutely not.

i've been here since 2008 you dumb bitch, shove your stupid response up your ass, who the fuck else would companies cater to, the blind ?

If you don't financially support something then you're not a fan.

Youtube is the best gsming platform. You literally cannot dispute this!

You can like a game by watching it, you can understand its lore, you can do your praise or hate or whatever the fuck, but you're not a fan if you don't have personal experience with the title. You're just some groupie trying to fit in.

Typical excuse of someone who is new here
Everyone knows you weren't here in 2008
Try harder next time, newfag

Yea Forums will say 'no' but in another open tab will be shitposting a game claiming to know what it's about and how it's literally the death of the industry without ever having played said game

I think Persona 5 is still not on the switch

I think you're a faggot for posting a Twitter screen cap. What exactly is the point of including the user if it isn't to shill for him you stupid underaged fuck

But the screenplay comes before the movie?

I do not need to "play" gone home to be a fan of it. Or not, as the case may be.

>ruined portal 2
nothing even happened in Portal 2.
>boy, i sure didn't se that glados coming back, haha, ya got me

>p5 cucks who thinks flashy bang bang shit makes something good.
>so new they don't even realize that p3 and 4 are a thing.

>People saying, "You didn't even finish the series? How can you say you're a fan?" would fall under being mad someone didn't 100% the content, no?
No? 100% is only ever referred to single games and in that cases mean completing all content that the game offer, including all sidequests and minigames.
>People saying something like, "How did you not know these characters were related in this way? How can you say you're a fan of you don't even get that basic plot line?" would fall under being mad someone doesn't know everything, no?
If you call yourself a fan of a series when you are maybe just a fan of a single game in the series, people are right in correcting you.

There are sports fans who have never played the sport. So this is valid, even if its retarded.

Video games and sports have no comparisons or cross over.

it isn't a matter of what comes after, but the experience of the content. you read a screenplay. you watch a movie. both have different structures in how they relate content to the audience (visual vs. written) and how the nature of the medium affects the final product (reading it yourself and imagining scenarios vs. actor performance and cinematography).

similarly with video games, the interactivity of the medium is core to the experience. playing is different to watching, just as watching is different to reading. the difference between playing and watching is the fundamental reason why so many people take issue with so-called "movie games".

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>they will never appreciate smt and the rest of persona and will only focus on p5 cause they're too lazy to spread their interests
im upset and glad at the same time

>since you're a /pol/fag who only comes here to shitpost
/pol/fags are way more likely to take the position that lets them dunk on degenerate diversity loving zoomers though? I have no idea how you can frame that opinion as being /pol/

Twitter screencap threads should be deleted on sight.

I don't care if you want to call yourself a fan because it's not like that title has any worth. Either way, if you watch streamers or Let's Players, you're a subhuman.

Not enough to make you "not a fan of the game". That's just dumb bullshit gatekeeping.

Some games have interesting stories but they're arse to play.

Yes but you'd be a secondary, a faggot and the reason why that series has such shit discussions at times

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i decide whether or not I like a game based solely on if there are any minorities or womyn in it and I never actually play it.

The difference is that a playthrough shows you the actual source material. You're not experiencing the gameplay itself but you at least know what the actual game looks like and how it works. A movie adaptation of something is just a completely different product. The book could be completely different from the movie for all you know.

I'd say you can be a fan of something regardless, but you can't really give a valid critique/review of it. You might SAY you love it, and that's fine, but you might not really know what you're talking about if you haven't actually experienced the game through the gameplay, so you can't review the overall experience. You can only review the parts you actually get to experience through watching a playthrough, and then you can make an educated guess to how good the rest of the game is

i think you should keep your faggot twitter posts on twitter

Of course. Remember that "fanatic" is a derogatory term.

why are you here?

Yeah there's some games I much rather watch people play than play myself. Counter Strike and Dwarf Fortress are two games that immediately come to mind.

Posting twitter screencaps should be a bannable offense
Mods and jannies are fucking niggers for not cleaning up this fucking shite
Make me a janny if you all are too lazy to do it, I'm on here probably more than the actual janitors are and not a massive cocksucking niggerfaggot
I swear I'll take care of the tranny threads too, and also clean up those fucking spammed smash threads that should be on fucking /vg/
Vote user for Janny, 2020
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Eh, i'm glad i watched a playthrough of Remnant, made me decide not to buy it, very short game

Watched, but haven't played Little Nightmares. It's only, what, four to six hours long and I've seen it twice? I'm not playing it, but the game is really amazing

Fucking zoomers.

>1500 retards on twitter is a good sample size
twitter attracts the bottom of the barrel, so take it as you will

Can you be a fan of a movie if you've only read the script?

I hate zoomers so god damn much.

Those are called secondaries
And at best they're a fan of the person playing not what they're playing
At worst they actively try to subvert any of the discussion about the game to serve their own purposes. MatPat

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>to their fans
You're a fucking complete mongoloid.
Catering to zoomer "fans" into bullshit retro hype is not catering to the fans.
If you weren't born when a series started, or you were too young to walk, you can never be a fan worth listening to.

there as never been a better time to drop video games as a hobby

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>DatDiscordBoy

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It's kind of the reverse, actually nearly all of old vidya is cracked wide open to enjoy, and there's more than a lifetime of vidya to play.

i can understand if it's a game that the average normalfag cant access for whatever reason, like DoA venus vacation or a game that's hard to find nowadays like Xenoblade 1 or something, but when it's just watching Fortnite or Smash on youtube, why the fuck do THESE people exist?
And why is it always kids? whenever im at family parties, my 5 year old second cousin always watches me play smash on my switch, and then i ask him if he wants to play with me, and he declines and just would rather watch me play video games instead of actually playing it, and it's always kids who like fortnite who do this, it's so bizarre.

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Most games are garbage to play but easy to watch these days.

You can be a fan of anything. Just don't call yourself a gamer. I don't call people who watch wrestling on TV, wrestlers. Nor do I call people who watch MMA on their youtube, professional MMA fighters.

If you're watching shit, you're a watcher, not a gamer.

No! Fuck how I hate retarded zoomers. You are literally worse than a nigger if you watch long plays of games you haven't already beat.

Only if the game is barely a game, i.e. a VN. Even if it's something like Ace Attorney, searching the levels and solving the puzzles is a part of the experience. If you watch AA on youtube, you can say that you're a fan of the writing, art, and music, and you can say that it looks fun, but you can't say that you enjoyed the game.

>You can't hate on Halo 2 you never played it

cool, proof of democracy not working

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Basically thisIf it's a movie with littlle gameplay like Until Dawn, it's fine to just watch it. If it has more gameplay than cutscenes, you can sure say you're a fan of it but you won't really be one until you give it a go.

Underrated.

hate to bring food analogy
but you cant hate food if you've never tried it

the state of this place. go back you fucking faggot.
>DUUHH YOU DONT HAVE TO ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN GAMEPLAY TO BE A FAN OF THE GAME DUUUUUHHHHH

Yes, you can.

well you can, but it makes you a retard

are you talking about nu-doom and it's wub wub metal?
CRINGE

The Order 1886

Not an argument.
>Watch gameplay of Zelda BotW
>Think it'd be really fun, you like the exploration and story shown in the videos.
>"I think this is a good game and I'm a fan of it."
>HURRR YOU GOTTA PLAY TO KNOW WHATS IN THERE THATS GOOD (You)

You're not a fan of the movie or the book in either of those instances. That's like asking me if I'm a fan of milk if I've only ever eaten cheese. What the fuck is wrong with you people, get your autism checked.

If by retard you mean a functional human being with working sense of smell, yeah.

>oh wow now that i actually played this game it actually sucks, this is my opinion now that i have the actual experience to form of my own.
we're done here

Only on Yea Forums would you get people unironically defending this garbage.

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You don't know what it's like to have ever played the game yourself, you can call yourself a fan but you've only watched it filtered through a lens, sometimes that lens has a personality attached to it.

you cant have a full opinion if you've never experienced something. a gut feeling can only get you so far, retard

I always thought the "I don't ACTUALLY play video games" saying was just a meme or something, but seeing this and reading the thread seeing anons try to justify this is scary. Even if it's a telltale "game" the player themselves are the ones still making the "decisions" thus creating a connection there, from game to player. Watching let's plays is not playing video games nor does that justify being a fan of said game. Games need to be played. If you can't purchase a game that's one story but you shouldn't say you're a "fan" either way. If you're watching high skill level gameplay is another thing. I myself never really could bring myself to watch let's plays of games I had never played even when I was younger, for the most part I always liked watching different point of views on games I had played think back to the first couple of months Dark Souls had been out seeing people struggle with the tutorial boss using a broken straight sword for example. Even with story first games, you wouldn't tell someone to just sit down and watch a cutscene compilation of the entire Metal Gear series, would you? I wouldn't. I suppose times have changed and with a changing fanbase things that were once deemed unacceptable are now okay.

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>I-I-I h-have the last word
Think again dork.
>Now that I played the game I nkow the controls are awful, but because the story and exploration I saw in the video is still present, I'm still a fan.

All of the retards who voted yes in that poll only like whatever game they watched instead of played because it had a quirky funny let's player who screamed and yelled a lot. If all playthroughs were simply longplays with no commentary, that poll would be 99% no.

What’s a fan anyways? Feels like it doesn’t even mean anything these days. What are the requirements, do you need to simply like the thing or is it something more?

>literal who
anyways, I used to think this was the case but after long deliberation I've realized it's absolutely not the fucking case. No discordtwittermeme poll will dissuade me.

>it gets good after you've eaten it for 50 hours

They don't care about the game, millions of zoomers are friendless and want their existence to be validated, they want to do something with their digital friends while they pay for their digital "best" friend to entertain them all.
sfgate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/Instagram-and-Pinterest-are-killing-Gap-6830762.php
>Young people want to purchase experiences rather than actual stuff, and when they do buy clothing or shoes they want to be able to showcase purchases on social media.
>Young people want to purchase experiences
>Purchase experiences
>Their entire life, if it’s not shareable, it didn’t happen
Want to test your love for videogames? Use the "day one" trick.
A lot of people buy a game at day one not because they yearn for the game but because they don't want to miss the first day of intense compelling discussions about the game on the internet. If they miss that they will be left behind, and it's likely they won't give as much of a shit about the game as they thought they would. That is actually the number one reason of backlogs, people don't feel like it because they're alone in their experience and if they try to talk about it they'll be "lttp, faggot"ed.

If you're able to keep the first few days of gameplay to yourself without sharing it with anybody compulsively, you probably truly love gaming and videogames. If you need to jump back and forth to talk about it, and it isn't about asking for help but just talk back and forth, and if you can't play and enjoy videogames during a long internet downtime, you don't.

>watch game
>no need to buy it
>saved 30$ and a pirate

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that has nothing to do with my point, why would you eat it for 50 hours? just actually try it, and then see if you like it or not. how is that hard to understand?

>Asking for permission to be a fan of something
???????????????

okay? that still proves my point. don't know what you were trying to accomplish.

so what you're saying is, zoomers are way too secure and dont want to even attempt to live life on the edge or else they'll get their feefees hurt or get a scratch on their knee.

Nah, I watched someone play it but I still call myself a fan :^)

Don't call yourself a fan if you're not a fan. A fan covers everything, you just like something specific.
If you started playing RE from 4, you're not a RE fan, you're a RE4 fan.

>What’s a fan anyways? Feels like it doesn’t even mean anything these days.
It means nothing to people who are not true fans of stuff, that's the point, destroy gatekeeping to act like something you are not so basically you won't even have to commit to a fucking hobby meant to be nothing but enjoyment
>I'M A HUGE SUPERHERO NERD
>oh yeah? What issues have you read last month?
>Oh I just watch marvel movies
Fuck you that ain't being a fan.

Some of my favorite foods smell like shit

It counts for last of us or anything else on PS3/4 really

I guess so, but don't expect me to take your opinion on it seriously.

>discordt****y

No credibility desu

anyone have that one comic that explains how fandoms get destroyed because girls and dudebros enter the small friend circle and then the games start pandering to normies? i feel that one is relevant somehow.

You can be a fan of a game just seeing it if the controls are ass. People love a lot of games despite their bugs, just because of music/story/themes, which are all able to be absorbed from Youtube vids of gameplay.
That's my point. You can be a fan of a game just watching someone play it if the non-controls aspect are good enough basically. Doesn't mean the game is good, just that you can like it.

lmao

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then that's not being a fan of the game, that's being a fan of music and story etc.
read and

fucking kek

Can you be a fan of a film you've only read the synopsis?

Can you be a fan of a book you haven't read but know the general plot?

Can your favourite food be something you've only smelled?

that'd be like if you said you were a fan of a game only because you find one character hot and nothing else

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>Can you be a fan of a sports team if you dont play on it?

How.is this even an argument??

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Well it makes you a fan of watching the game, not playing it. Which are 2 different things. Like if someone had never played football but loved watching it, he’s a fan of watching football, not a fan of playing football. Again, 2 very different things. Which is apperent because there are so many people who play it but have never watched it on tv, and so many who watch it but have never played.

Also, what in the ever living hell is wrong with zoomers? Watching video games is when your friend is playing and you are waiting for your turn, and 90 percent of the time it’s annoying, hurry up nigger I want to play. The fact there are so many braindead zoomers not only watching people play video games but many who don’t even play themselves just further proves how completely fucked their generation is. I could understand women doing it, watching others have hobbies was always the closest many of them would get to it. But men are doing this. I am horrified of what the world is going to look like when corporations really start pandering to zoomers. I’m guessing saying, “idiocracy wasn’t supposed to be a documentary” won’t be a joke or stupid meme anymore, rather seen as naive to think the world would be that smart. It has to be environmental for an entire generation to be completely braindead like this. Some chemical we started using or something?

You're not a REAL sports fan unless you have brain damage from getting tackled repeatedly.

If you're a fan of the game, why haven't you played it?

You can be. Some people cannot physically play games, or certain games.
Though if you're perfectly able to play the game you're a fan of, but don't, are you really a fan?

More useless gatekeeping. Those aren't really arguments just bad opinions. People are fans of the sonic franchise, but I doubt there's many fans of Sonic 06. Are they not franchise fans cause they don't like EVERY entry? No, right? So why can't I be a fan of a game without liking every aspect of it (such as controls).

Can you be a fan of a game if you've never played it or never even watched a playthrough of it? Asking for a friend

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I like Off but I've never played it.

Yes, because being a ‘fan’ is an incredibly low standard.

>why yes I’m a fan of playing football
>oh, I’ve never actually played it

Considering video games are exclusively an interactive medium (otherwise it would be a movie or book)you must be a special kinda of stupid to be a ‘fan’ of something you’ve never touched.

>Discord
Sorry but I don't listen to transsexual pedophiles.

Imagine being a "fan" of a movie you only read about.

i actually think you should play the sport to be a fan of it even if it's just for fun like going outside to play some soccer in the field. watching on TV is just a fan of watching sports, not a fan of sports.

No, never. This is something I'm firm on.
Games have one thing to differentiate themselves from other entertainment mediums: an interactive experience. If you take away any agency the player has, it just becomes a watered down movie.
Even if the game doesn't have a fail-state, or with a game you could call a walking simulator, there are still choices presented to the player in the form of how to explore their environment.
And past all that, why the fuck wouldn't you try to enjoy something to the fullest if you're supposedly a "fan"? It's not like watching some fag play the game is faster than playing it yourself.

Girls can be fans of something without doing it, as they gain nothing by doing it. They were designed to be life cheerleaders, forever on the sidelines gestating the next generation of doers. If they cannot be fans without doing they can’t be fans at all. Men however were designed to do, if they only watch they only have an interest. A man who only watches may as well cut off his dick and turn into a tranny because he’s not only not a fan, he isn’t a man

>Playing a game you hate

I'm fascinated by Silent Hill franchise and I've watched playthroughs for the first 4 games and the first 2 hours of homecoming before dropping it, but I still don't consider myself a fan of this series because I haven't actually played any SH game, well except for the demo for SH3 and that was too much for me.
Idk, I think you need to at least play 1 or 2 games in the franchise, and at least beat 1 of them, to consider yourself a fan, but at the end of the day, who cares, as long as the "fans" input doesn't effect game development for the next one, I don't think it matters.

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Any girls or people like this should be immediately disregarded for being vapid culture vampires.

>But men are doing this.
tis the way of the soiboy, who are basically delicate girls but with beards and soon to be chopped off penises, how did it come to this?

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Depends what you're a fan of.
>Story
sure
>Gameplay
no.

Games going mainstream was a fucking mistake

Why haven't you played them though?

>bad opinions
You're not a fan so you can't decide what opinions are bad. You don't have to like all entries but you have to play the major ones as it's the only way to draw proper conclusions.
Imagine calling yourself a tomb raider fan if all you played is the modern uncharted clone shit.

>Can you be a fan of the actual sport of football (as compared to the entertainment product that you watch on television) without ever playing it?

That's more in line with what's being asked. Your question would be like asking if you can be a fan of an LPer without playing the games that he's played, which is obviously "yes".

The answer is no, BTW. You can speculate on what playing football might be like and whether it seems fun, but if you've never been out there running, catching, throwing, and dodging, you're a complete armchair quarterback.

Nope, the people are wrong. You cannot be a fan unless you played it yourself and actually enjoyed it.

The game requires problem solving and reflexive challenges and the experience is personal to each player. Secondhand playing is being a fan of someone else’s interpretation agreeing with potentially your own. The second is the equivalent of a laugh track in a sitcom to the point you end up not thinking for yourself. TL;DR you can’t unless it’s a movie game

This. I was interested with where the story was going with both mafia 3 and RDR2. But both games had such boring gameplay that I just went to YouTube to watch the cutscenes instead

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Telltale-style games.

Too big of a pussy to go through it myself sense of dread and loneliness is too strong, gives me anxiety, SH is not like other scary or horror games i've played, it's not like alien isolation or resident evil.

twitter is so fucking gay and useless

gas everyone on twitter

Play Darkwood.

>start watching playthrough
>player doesn't pick make the choices I would pick
>he keeps doing it
>get slightly annoyed and stop watching.
even those games, with their lack of any meaningful choices I still prefer to play them and pick the choices myself.

Incels are the biggest sex havers around because they watch a lot of porn.

Make me.

Fucking secondaries.

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If it's a visual novel or something like that, sure, but if it's something like a 2D Mario sidescroller where it's just gameplay and no story or anything else I don't think you can just watch it and be considered a fan.

People who haven't played a game don't have the right to decide, so most of those "yes" votes are moot.

This isn't like sports

Quien chingados es ese pendejo?

The kek is switchfags assuming they're getting P5 and not the retarded dancing game based around P5.

>implying you never watch an Ex clear

Secondary fans are still fans, they're just filthy secondaries.

you type like a fag

I wish this applied to politics as well. So many people voicing their opinions as fact just because they're a celebrity that knows how to act or sing. Congress doesnt tell you how to act or what to sing so dont talk about their job if you never spent years studying economics or political science

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>terry in smash
>suddenly everyone is a fan of SNK

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If the game has competitive aspects, I'd argue you can enjoy it the same way that someone can enjoy sports despite never having been in a team or something.

How do you know you hate it if you've never played it? I don't go to any Astral Chain threads talking about how much it rustles my jimmies because I never bought it.

Pic caught me way off guard

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I think you have found definitive proof that all Twitter users are retarded. Congratulations OP, you did it.

No, but you could declare yourself a fan of sex.

>football fan
>do you only watch football?
>yeah
>dude you can't be a fan unless you actually play football lmao

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They're getting a musou, not a dancing game

>sports analogy
Here's the difference smartass. Football requires physical activity and friends, vidya does not. There's no excuse for watching some fag play a game instead of playing it yourself.

You're a poser until you beat Drakengard 1,3, and Nier, before you go to Automata.

i only agree if you enjoyed the game enough to buy it after watching the playthrough
you're not a "fan" if you're passive

Depends on the game

>watching from the sidelines as someone else is having all the action
Now where have I heard this before?

Yeah. I'm a fan of starcraft broodwar but I've never played it. The proleague is very entertaining.
If OP's pic was talking about people being fans of a video game because of a movie/anime adaptation then you would make sense.

>Do you like the game of football?

vs.

>Do you like watching football?

Two different questions. And in this case, we're asking if you like the games themselves, not broadcasts of people playing games.

Ita less being a fan of him than being aware of him