Which class mains have the biggest rivalry in TF2?

I joined TF2 after the WAR! update. Was it as good as it looked?

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Soldiers vs. other Soldiers

>France was always the backstabber
How did Valve know?

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Not him but I do recall lots of idle servers farming kills on the opposing class.

The best

Scout v Scout

someone kills me in a scout mirror I take it personally and will proceed to tryhard him for the rest of the match like the autist I am.

What are some ways to make Pyro vs. Pyro fights more interesting.

Flare gun only

Just air blast the other pyro and pull out the shotgun. That's literally all there is to it.

With the Heavy Update imminent, what's the one thing you're hoping for?

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A time machine

tfw 800 hours in TF2 and never seen a major update before

>It's literally been 2 years since Jungle Inferno.
What the fuck

It's Friday. Where's the party van?

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we will never get anything
valve are niggers

The smallest rivalry is Snipers and Heavies. Just a one-way shitshow.

Pyro vs. everyone.
even if they are easy to handle a lot of the time i don't think literally anyone likes to fight pyro

New lunchbox items, one or two new miniguns, cosmetics that are actually good for Heavy, final comic, TFC Heavy Merasmus boss fight.

>ValveNewsNEtwork

i feel bad for the guy. he basically ahs nothing good to report anymore.

Pretty sure it's been confirmed that the next update isn't the heavy one.

>With the Heavy Update imminent
tyler pls stop
you are just getting your hopes up for valve VALVE
you are just hurting yourself at this point

Guy really should have branched out, maybe changed his name to SteamNewsNetwork.

MY DICK VS PYRO'S BIG FAT ASS
OH GOD I'M GONNA COOOOM

Depends on the map.

strawpoll.com/9bpgk8ph

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Maybe, but that requires sniper mains to actually be able to aim

>gravel pit
>10th spot overall
Yikes, it shouldn't even be on the list.

*Heavy and Pyro

Gravelpit is the best Attack/Defend map.

They're best friends, though. Listen to their domination voice lines.
youtube.com/watch?v=PA8e_D730Pw

>Dominated! I'll see you in hell! Bye, see you soon.
wait do they know about respawn times is that canon

Snipers and VAC bans

>direct hit soldier vs scunt

Natasha Heavy vs. Scout?

Mini Sentry vs. Scout

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It was fun. The propaganda contest was a highlight.

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What are some good class main bromances?

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>dustbowl going down

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>dustbowl
>the best attack/defence
is being 10 years of this shit
>is chokepoint city
>is always medic/soldie/demo vs pyro/engin/demo
>you have to either rush the second point or waste like 10 minute of you life waiting for uber/ defense to fuck up
>did i mentiong the 20 MINUTES to capture both points
also the best one is gorge follow by montain

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>Gaben gets an email from Spy
>I never really was on your side

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>tyler mcnigger doesn't know what steamdb change numbers mean
The steamdb number has nothing to do with the games internal build number.

Medic + everyone

teamfortress.com/post.php?id=3391&p=5
The memories from when Valve had a soul. Those descriptions are gold.

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This... is a bucket.

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UNBELIEVABLY shit taste, confirmed hijacked by Reddit
Also cashworks is the fucking best map of all time, I don't give a fuck it's not official

Trolldier vs Gravity

Dear God..

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Which class is the most Reddit?

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There's more...

agreed, scout v scout reaches intense levels of autism

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Every class takes skill

This. Sniper has the magic capability of turning other classes into snipers after they respawn.
>Usually suck at sniper
>One day my aim seems to be perfect
>Ten minutes later and I had turned half their team into snipers just because they had enough of my shit

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Anyone gonna post Gmod or SFM?

>t. hasn’t played Pyro

I agree.

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yeah its canon

Engineer is my most played class and you have no idea how grateful I am that even most of the good spies are too obsessed with doing sick trickstabs to ever even attempt to attack my teleporter except in passing while sapping the sentry. There are many maps where there's basically no point in playing engineer if the enemy spy focuses on shutting down your teleporter and not having one can make it basically impossible to win for attackers

Tele is the FIRST thing I aim for as Spy.

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the real question is which is worst
>the perfect reflect pybro
>or phlog/scorth perma crit m1+w

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A good reflect pyro is nightmare. A phlog pyro isn't too bad unless he has a good medic pocketing him, making him immortal for most of the match.

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Phlog, hands down. I can at least respect a man with the dedicated reflexes to reflect projectiles.
>mfw getting killed by a reflected Huntsman arrow / Crusaders bolt

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I think something should be changed here, just walking back to the enemy spawn you almost always get to break the engis tele for free and either make him run back and abandon his nest or have the entire team be without a tele.
When spy just spams the sapper on the other end and the feed is filled with sapper broken for a minute is the dumbest shit. Surely there should be a cooldown on placing sappers or have it only sap one side or have it not downgrade the surviving side to lvl1.

retarded idea, if this ever went through then the homewrecker would have to be gutted too

scout & spy
engineer & pyro
soldier & demoman

You're a good lad. One of my favorite things when I play spy myself is to cloak and dagger on the tiny ledge above blu spawn on Goldrush map 3 and just destroy it in a single shot every time the engineer tries to build a new one.

I hate to say it since it would make my life even easier but it's hard to suggest nerfs to the spy when he's already the worst class in the game. I can't see sapper limits ever being a good idea but only destroying one side of a teleporter would be nice if he got an appropriate buff to go with it.

Everyone hates everyone

But Snipers are the worst.

Bonk scout + explosive classes

Fix this.

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defend this

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Speed up the downgrade process, that's it.

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begone, scorchniggers

>Reflect Huntsman arrow
>misses the sniper who fired it
>kills one of his teammates

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People use this shit?

I'm a detonator chad thank you very much
scorch shit is garbage once you git gud with detonating timing

>I'm a detonator chad thank you very much

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Heavy sniper. Everyone including other snipers will focus the heavy, Meaning the sniper isnt getting shot at and can countersnipe without worry and pick off everyone running away / towards the heavy

>scorch shit is garbage once you git gud with detonating timing
scorch shit lets me get rid of stickies entirely instead of airblasting them down the road until they blow up in my face and makes snipershits mad as hell so that's a big bonus
if i wanted to do actual damage i'd just use the normal flaregun

detonator is even better for destroying stickies

Scorch shot deals more damage against both people and buildings, doesn't need to choose between direct damage and splash damage, and has knockback.
Only hipster contrarians think the detonator is better than the scorch shot.

Use scorch shot or detonator to jump over the other pyro before blasting them with your primary, or swap to melee and pray for a crit.

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What's Yea Forums's best times on the courses?
Y-you guys have at least beaten Medium, r-right?

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this is so cute

the problem is there is no real punishment
>ear-reddening play as soldier
>missed shots, maybe even self damage, enemy kills you

>ear-reddening play as sniper
>miss a shot you should've hit, step back into cover, poke back out 1 second later to try again

and delivering that play gives you no satisfaction
>see sniper in distance
>evasive maneuvers
>he misses
>that's it

the solution is to make all sniper rifles act like the bazaar bargain, headshots increase "something" about the gun, missing decreases it

detonator doesn't make people upset

That's a complete lie. If anything they're equal since they both have the same explosion radius, but in practice the scorch shot would be better since you can simply aim into the center of a sticky trap and delete the whole thing without having to worry about timing your detonation.

can't delete them around corners

Whatever class you main

How is that different from the Detonator?

Literally just shoot on the other side of the corner.

Be honest, Yea Forums. Would you uber him?

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detonator can destroy stickies without relying on a surface, so it can destroy traps around corners
not always possible or convenient

I'm a pyro main, and I absolutely will say that reflecting takes a good degree of skill to master. It requires you to be familiar with the behavior of rockets and pipes, while also having to make snap aiming decisions to make sure you dont just reflect at your feet and blow yourself up. Most soldiers and demos dont expect pyres to actually be able to use m2 properly, and if one of them is using either a banner or shield, you absolutely shut down all of their offensive capabilities. Reflecting makes you a hard counter for demoknights, as well.
Phlog, on the other hand, is what you choose when you just want to mindlessly frag without much regard for respawning times. Phlog+scorch is a shitter combo that is absolutely used as a crutch for people new to the class or just bad at the game, while true patricians will run stock+shotgun or stock+detonator for mobility.

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What if I run stock+Scorch until the enemy team starts bringing out their own Pyros, then switch to stock+shotgun?

Since when did the detonator destroy stickies

since before the scorch shot was even added you retard

Every time chat starts complaining about Pyros, you can bet its do to them getting reflect killed.

If he's in the proper positioning, sure. I always end up wasting my uber on dumb fucks anyway so why not.

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A solid choice. Hell, sometimes with that I'll even go for the manmelter for free crits. Enemy pyros never expect you to whip out an instant 90 damage.

>most convincing argument for education
god damn

There is a special hell for medics that uber phlogs but I admit, sometimes the opportunity is so perfect I just can't resist giving it to them.

One of the greatest joys in TF2 for me is fucking with Engineers as Spy.

There's very, very few situations where it wouldn't be possible. Generally if a sticky is close enough to damage you walking past the corner, it's close enough for the scorch shot's blast to get it. Maybe on Gravelpit BLU spawns it wouldn't be possible, I don't think I've ever actually had to test that, but I can't think of any others off the top of my head.

Detonator destroys stickies with the detonation. It won't destroy stickies if you don't detonate even if you hit them directly.

>is the best medigun in your path

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I really didn't know after 5k hours.

>In the zone
>firing rockets
>trying to clear up an area for a sentry
>"Woop, better go grab some ammo! I'm pretty low and I need to reload, now would be a good time for a retrea-"
>medic pops uber on me
>i eat shit
>we both die
medic, please, i...

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brainlet: phlogistinator
glue eater: backburner
boomer: degreaser
whale: ugly war paint flamethrower
big brain: flamethrower
genius: turbine torcher, smalltown bringdown, other plain skins
ascended: nostromo napalmer

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post bad/underused weapons you think are fun

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I can't blame you since it's not actually listed on the stat card for either the Detonator or the Scorch Shot.

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Heavy v Scout has been canon since Meet the Scout

Detonator has better mobility than scorch shot.

The detonator's mobility is very situational due to the high HP cost and relatively low force of the blast. Most of the time it's just not worth the HP cost to use.

t. doesn't know how to detonator jump
they're more powerful than you think, and a lot of the jumps that are worth doing have health packs nearby

this

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>blocks your path

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The update competition itself was bullshit, because people just farmed kills. Then valve "rolled it back" but they had no way of knowing which kills were legit or not, so we don't know who truly won. They just gave the Gunboats to soldier.
To be honest, they should just release them for Demoman now too.

>To be honest, they should just release them for Demoman now too.
sure, as long as they replace stickies

>implying
A det jump doesn't get you anywhere near as much height as a rocket jump.
A perfect det jump can get you just barely enough height to jump to a second floor, but that is a perfect jump and only just barely.

Highlights enemy buildings for the team through walls while sapping. Like the spawn outlines

>implying det jumping is hard to do
youtube.com/watch?v=hgSdBW9njK0

I never said it was hard to do, but everyone flubs a jump now and then.

>The days where the quickie launcher/ali baba's wee booties combo was still a thing
Take me back

On defense its good stuff. Being able to lock down multiple entry ways gives me the big pecker

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trickstabs are for gay bois

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Alternate way to extinguish teammates and being able to store and then unleash crits a la Frontier Justice is pretty cool. Flare gun or even a shotgun is always better but it's fun if you know the enemy team has a lot of pyros. It was probably really useful when Jungle Inferno first launched considering everybody and their mother was playing pyro.

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