Is Xbox Game Pass worth it?

Is Xbox Game Pass worth it?

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Only piracy is worth it.

Yes

fpbp

Does netflix even make money?

>Xbox is responsible for paying for online and popularizing DLCs.
>Now they are pushing hard for streaming and killing game ownership.
Fucking hell someone needs to nuke the Xbox division HQ and soon.

Quite coincidental this article comes out when France rules users can resell their digitally-acquired games.

$60 is bullshit to start

used to be $50

$30 should be avg new game price

>the Netflix model
You mean only having any interest in like 3 shows in a sea of dogshit? Nice try Phil

>streaming is the fewchuh!

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>spending 60$ on a video game doesn't make sense anymore
True
>games as a service
No

Fpbp

>paying 7 different subscriptions for fucking video games

I think I'll just pirate.

>pay £2 for 2 months
>play Gears 5 this month and Outer Worlds next without EGS
>never ever use the subscription again

haha fuck you I'll never replay gears 5 and I'll just get the outer worlds on steam in a year for cheap if its any good

imagine paying $15 a month to play games that routinely sell for $10

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I'm convinced in 3 years netflix will be nothing but cuck and gay porn. Their shows are all garbage and getting worse.

Fpbp

People don't ACTUALLY pay the premium price for Game Pass, do they?

>Subscription services
Oh boy I can’t wait for more multiplayer only micro-transaction infected grindfests.
Developers will design their games around making you play as long as possible so they get paid anything, that means more empty open worlds are boring garbage.

I want to own the games I buy physical versions of, not some shady subscription service.

The selection is pretty good, I like what I’m getting

Xbox is dead don't you realize this? this is just a desperate efforts to save it. If it wasnt for microsoft and their infinite money xbox would have gone the way of Atari

Its not streaming though, its kind of like game rentals.

DMC5, Gears, and Bloodstained could be played for like $2 for one month as part of a deal. I'd say its worth it when they have their discounts.

So if you play through more than 3 games every 2 months you're coming out ahead.

Well it’s a good model because I just bought an Xbox and got the game pass only to find there is no one playing gears 5...

Only played one game in the past 4 days. Glad I didn’t buy the game outright.

>what the fuck pay the devs shitlord they deserve it
>actually I want every game ever for 9.99 a month
I can't keep up

Yeah PS Plus was good value when the PS3 had struggled all generation.
This is the same thing, Microsoft trying to get some goodwill ahead of a new console.

>Netflix model
>they cycle games out of their service so that you can't play them anymore
>load up their library with thousands of shitty Indian or Chinese titles because they can get licenses for them for pennies
>never improve their infrastructure
>remove user reviews
>ignore customer feedback

No. This would never be worth it.

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It’s a stepping stone to streaming, when streaming becomes the only option people will just say “Well, you never really owned your games with gamepass anyway so what’s the difference?”

>Gorilla Hernandez still exists

What is the Friends of video games?

Except that I literally still don't want to play any of the gamespass games.

>xbox

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If there is a game you like and still play that is more than 5 years old you should be 100% against a streaming only future.

retard

Playing old games is no fun

If these game passes start pushing day-1 new games then I might consider it

>not liking DMC

on PC too

>Playing old games is no fun

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I dont think streaming will ever take off though. Digital only for sure, but not streaming. Even with Google Stadia fixing a ton of problems they seem to have forgotten what killed shit like Onlive, a lackluster game selection, internet infrastructure that still isnt there, and input latency. And even if they have a worthwhile library like PS Now people would still not bother with it because of the lag.

It sure is a better model than dishing out 60 bucks per game. Imagine if Nintendo did this but with first party nintendo games. my god dude

no you're still wasting money since if your only aim is to burn through single player games you can rent them at redbox for $3

please don't use Steven Universe, you're just giving away that you're one massive homosexual.

People value convenience over everything and streaming is the ultimate convenience even when the quality may be objectively worse.

Streaming only is the future the French just ensured for you.

Good job, you did it Yea Forums.

>no modding
>reliant on internet connection, makes competitive multiplayer almost impossible
>only approved input devices allowed
>always online single player
>your favorite games can be removed from the service when nobody but you wants to play them

Publishers felt Denuvo and other DRM wasn't working, so the next step is to stream the software to the end user and maintain total control for a small fee of $15/mo. The only people who will think this is a good idea are literal casuals

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gamepass doesn't use streaming to play your games and you can boot them up offline.

The last one is true but only for third party games. First party stay forever.

Netflix currently trades at $270 per share.

It made just under $6.5 billion in profit in the previous financial year.

Not everyone is a Switchtard mate.

Holy shit have sex you absolute fucking loser how much of a fucking sperg do you have to be to click on every post you can before the spam filter outs and end to your autistic ass
Are you really so fucking needy that you need your post to show up in the replies of every other post? If you had anything important to say it'd get read on its own. No one's going to make any replies to the actual content of your post when you do this shit.

Microsoft learned absolutely nothing from E3 2013.

Official PlayStation Used Game Instructional Video
youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA

I don't know about other countries, but streaming will never take off in the US as long as there are data caps.

Not a lot compared to the entire games industry

How? There's literally nothing good to watch on it. Who keeps funding this shit?

They haven't changed their strategy at all, just rebranded it. This is the always online, you own nothing future they wanted.

This is pretty much the future publishers have been wanting for year. Subscription based gaming. Fuck that shit. I'll pirate every single one of my games if this comes to pass

A $40 game in the 90s would be worth $60 now once accounted for inflation. Games have to get more expensive.

This will only ensure the big $60 releases will sell even more since the rest will be bundled up with the trash for cheap.

How is it the future? How in the fuck does the devs get paid from this? Does one game have to share the money with all the other gorrilion games on the platform?

Where in the US are there data caps? Certainly not anywhere in the 5 states I've lived in.

>Is Xbox Game Pass worth it?
Sorta

>don't own the games you buy
vs
>don't own the games you rent, but pay less for them

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Problem with game pass model is I'd be more inclined to only sub for one month to play the new hot thing, then sub another month on whatever service has the next new hot thing, because it's far cheaper than paying $60 to 'own' the game. I don't know how it's profitable to the publishers long-term, unless they just hope people pay for a year in advance for forget to unsub.

Obviously not you fucking retard.

I pay $5 a month for access to the catalog
Its nt bad and tehre are some releases on the horizion thatmeans I will keep paying short term
Once the beta ends and the price goes up aI will stop I think

It's not a streaming service, it's literally just an online blockbuster where you pay a subscription fee and are able to "rent" any of the games in the service. You still have to download them.

Oh no! People will resell games like they always have! How awful!

People that want to watch that ONE show, or people that just keep paying for it without using it .

>remove user reviews

Reminder that they did this because everyone hated the bill nye shit.

the first season of Spongebob is there.

they learned that they can't keep up with Sony on hardware so they just shifted their focus on publishing and licensing, including on PC.

you're paying less for much more.

It wouldn't be profitable, unless most of their titles were ridden with microtransactions, game as a service and all that shit

Black Ops 1 was 75 dollars after all the DLC
Black Ops 4 is 150 dollars with all the DLC and it doesn't even have campaign

>you're paying less for much more.
thats debateable if its the netflix system.
you might get a few good games.

But the xbone has better hardware and is only considered a failure because it has no exclusives

It's not a streaming service? Go unplug your router and see if you're still able to play your gamepass games.

Doesn't matter, 99.5% of games are not worth playing nowadays.

its also on youtube

they already tried to do that you moron, see stadia.

They can though. The Xbone X is way stronger than the PS4 Pro.

vs
>pirate and own the games you didn't buy
Seriously, like what the fuck. Why is pirating the best option and fucking free?

Turns out inflation is an aggregate and doesn't affect all goods equally.
Advances in technology should make video game production and distribution cheaper.
As an example the marginal cost of generating a new license key for a game is near 0, but it's still sold at the same price as a physical copy.
Furthermore data from publicly traded companies show video games have never been so profitable in history as they are now.
Also nothing is "worth" jack, the market determines the price, nothing "has" to get more expensive. Go rent Home Alone 2, grandpa.

You realize no company will go along with the reselling thing because it makes literally no sense with digital goods. If the french succeed in pushing this shit, then it just means that subscription exclusives are the only thing we will get from here on out.

>spending more than $20 on a game
literally cannot think of a single time this has ever happened.
fuck publishers
fuck amazon
fuck alphabet group
thank thrift stores and torrents.

>author implies the only two choices are $60 per game or monthly subscription
lmao

How about $5 per game and I keep them forever. It's called waiting for games to be a few years old and buying them on sale. Pay 1/12 of the price for the best version of the game (all bugs fixed, sometimes all DLC included).

Which is why I question Microsoft's decision of Gears5 on game pass to basically be the season-pass bundled version of it. Granted I can't see anyone paying microtransactions for a games they don't own, but then again I don't have PS+ either.

The French somehow created Stadia. Don't forget OnLive.

You're not streaming the game though. Besides this is true for the majority of AAA titles these days. I'm not saying that it's a good thing, it absolutely isn't but this is the way things have went.

Go and suck Gabe's dick. Don't forget to dilate.

I'm pretty sure Steam can get away with adjusting the TOS and allowing people to sell their accounts.

>If I don't take it up the ass from soulless corporations they might make me take it up the ass in a different way
I fail to see the problem here

This. The doomposter is a gigant faggot.

They're using it to get more subscribers. Quantity is the game with subscription models.

Yes. Not rocket science.

It's not bad concept, but there's just nothing that I want to play on the PC version.

>>author implies the only two choices are $60 per game or monthly subscription
It is. Buy. Consume. Spend. Don't question the bottom line.

yeah now you pay $1000+ for all content and its pure rng to even get it

*gigantic

>Patricia Hermandez

Or just don’t sell games to frogs anymore.

Sup Patricia Hernandez

>taking anything that dyke says seriously

>multi billion company can afford it so everyone else should be able to as well

as if ms would do this if their games would sell like crazy

The European Union said the same.

>xbone has better hardware
no it doesn't, it didn't even run the first games of the gen at 1080p
It was a failure because of that and the botched launch so everyone bought/buys PS4 because it has more games
yeah and it costs $400 and has no games

>Netflix system
God no
youtu.be/fDF-S68kx5o

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>Literally can't afford 2$
poorfags sicken me

Netflix is literally a DNC money laundering front.
Your subscription fee just bought the Obamas a new mansion.

well Gears 5 would have sold poorly regardless so they're using it to sell the service

>still falling for the "file sharing is theft" meme

Stop calling it piracy.

Currently I can pirate games to circumvent the assfucking, the subscription future that will inevitably transition into streaming will not allow that.

Even better. Fuck europoors.

It's worth it, but only as a replacement for the hole in the game rental business left when video rental stores went out and took games with it. So long as the games in the service are kept on a rotation, with the option to buy (and ideally - to have a physical edition printed and shipped to you) - then it's fine. As a complete replacement for buying games, it's a terrible idea and should be eliminated.

I don't really care who gets the money as long as they churn out some decent shows, and they do.

The vast majority of the world has shitty Internet, even within USA.

There's comedy specials and Bojack Horseman.

like what?

More "games as a service" shilling from paid shills. People who buy into this stuff need to have their fingers broken, it's the only way they'll learn

Think about how unbelievably shit console online multiplayer is compared to what we had on the PC 2 decades ago, and how that awful console online is now considered the gold standard of what multiplayer should be. The exact same thing will happen with streaming games. It doesn't matter how awful it is, if they push streaming hard enough for long enough people will cave, we'll be stuck with it and dumbass kids that grow up with it will think that's what games "should" be..

I once bought a month of Humble Monthly which includes access to the Trove. What are you gonna do?

No, because Microsoft has all but committed to shitting out mediocre drip-feed grindfest games to encourage you to stay subbed in order to wring as much money as possible out of everyone. Once other big companies follow expect a desolate market full of Destiny clones

>we

Castlevania's pretty fun.
Stranger Things is alright.
The Haunting of Hill House was solid.

Streaming itself gets better. Netflix is an undeniably better experience than when I was watching CNN on Realplayer with dialup.

Yes, we, everyone who wants to play games will be stuck with dogshit streaming services when the companies manage to make them the norm.

That means you're part of the problem.

>anime trash
>soi trash
>horror

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Why dont you spend $800 to make your character look like THIS

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way to move the goalposts

This is truly the most pathetic kind of posting.
>LIST SOME THINGS THAT ARE GOOD
>LMAO ALL THOSE THINGS ARE BAD

Ok, doomposter.

>You should've have to pay for anything, just share

Fucking commie

>digital only
fucking nope

The problem with this article is that it's coming from a lesbian who sleeps with indie game developers.

She wants you to believe that a subscription service that offers 100s of shitty indie games is better value than buying 1 or 2 triple A games per year.

Gears 5 may be shitty, but it's not an indie by any means.

sorry I meant they couldn't keep up on hardware sales, meaning console sales, I don't know why I phrased it that way
so you could have listed anything and it would have automatically been good? I can't help it if you listed trash

How so? I said I CAN pirate games. I don't do it very often because it's usually more convenient to just buy em. Piracy is the only guarantee that I can avoid getting fucked if they try to take those games away though. That is going to be impossible with streaming exclusives. They will take the games away and they will never be recovered.

communism isn't sharing

If indie games are taken into context, then paying a one-time $15 fee to plow through a bunch of them that i will literally never touch again is actually a good deal.

>implying giant corporations wouldn't love to destroy the concept of ownership altogether
>implying streaming won't give them the power to do that easily

How do devs even make money from Gamepass? You've got Gears 5 for example which was on there Day 1 and thus people have zero reason to buy the game.

Also the first season of the Pokemon anime is on there but it's missing some episodes because of censorship or something.

Inflation doesn't work that way.

MS pays the devs, in the case of Gears 5 it makes no difference though since MS is publishing it.

>implying giant corporations wouldn't love to destroy the concept of ownership altogether
They do, that's why began with digital distribution. The problem is that not only streaming is expensive as fuck, you need that everybody has a high-speed Internet and more importantly, no data caps. Streaming is dead on arrival. Go and suck Valve's dick.

my buddy dropped $1000 on pretty much every version of release they offered.
He then gave me a 6 month game pass, so that was nice. He's super into the multiplayer, which I don't find very fun, but the horde & escape modes are cool.
I don't exactly know how $2 for 2 months of playing any number of 100+ games works out, but I've delved into some interesting titles I wouldnt' have otherwise, so I'm pretty OK w/ the model as long as I can buy the games I like later, instead of renewing the pass.

I sometime pirate games to see what they are like, demo, as I have shitty taste

It is actually, It just never works out that way

>Second hand physical
>Disc wear and tear
>Box condition
>Paper art condition
>Manual condition
>All of this factors into the price

>"Second hand" digital
>Literally no different from a "new" copy

What incentive do I have to purchase a new digital game over a used one? How do you factor in used digital games without fucking up sales and prices of new copies? How do you decide who gets what from a used copy in terms of sales?

It was because everyone hated Amy Schumer's special

What about offering just physical copies?

>that's why began with digital distribution
The key difference is that you can still pirate when games are digital only. Companies won't allow you to own your games but crack groups will.

I hope you're right that streaming is DOA. But there's simply too much money to be made for companies to give it up. And like I said, if they push it for long enough, it will become the norm even if its awful, as we've seen with every other awful trend in the industry.

You don't remember having to buy "online passes" in order to play multiplayer if bought a used copy of the game? Same thing will happen here. If you buy a game "new" from a digital store, you'll get the "multiplayer access" DLC for free, but if you buy the game "used" from another player's account, you'll have to buy the "multiplayer access" DLC for $15 on top of that.

>low paid job
>earn 30$ a hour
>2 hours is enough to buy an aaa game
>takes me 2 weeks to finish
How is 60$ a lot today? Pays keeps going up but game prices stay mostly the same. I last 3 years i got 3 raises each one 15% of my pay.
Less than 0,7% of people earn close to minimum pay, thats including par t time workers and students, median is like 28$ a hour, and including all the burger flippers and other low paid cunts.
Also fuck netflix, fucking cuck station.

>it is that thing but it's never that thing
communism is a single entity taking your stuff, piracy is someone buying a pair of socks, replicating the socks and giving them to everyone for free

That doesn't address what a French court just ruled about digital ownership.

And then Netflix blamed the consumers for not finding 60 minutes of MUH VERGIIIIIINEER jokes worth their time.

If you play the games, it is. Because Yea Forums doesn't play video games, they of course hate it.

>>low paid job
>>earn 30$ a hour
this is bait
>>median is like 28$ a hour
this is definitely bait

>Is Xbox worth it?
No.

It's not like Netflix gave her a bunch more money or anything. They usually just go where the money is, people rejected Schumer so they're done with her.
You are incredibly naive if you think they make decisions based on politics.

Oh Christ no not that fucking EA shit again.

How's that gonna work with SP games? ME2 Cerberus Network DLC bullshit again?

case is appealed so nothing yet

I want them to try. Source for the previous statement BTW:
businessinsider.com/google-stadia-data-usage-internet-streaming-requirements-2019-6
There's also the fact that if there's a demand, someone will provide.

I looked it up and it seems like the average is $28 hour, but couldn't find median

You get paid on a playtime basis

>not wanting self publishing, patronage and direct purchase to be the norm
>wanting to keep the market from changing to protect hacks and now-redundant middlemen

Fuck off shekelstein.

Don't care.

This year I:
had 11 years of mmo accounts deleted
cancelled everything except prime delivery
had all my launcher/service accounts deactivated
switched to old backlogging via emulation

fuck iot, fuck x as a service, fuck cold bugman programmers turning into techno aristocrats that sell your own life and privacy to you and farm you like cattle for cash

and fuck jannies

>communism is a single entity taking your stuff
For the ideal purpose of sharing

>piracy is someone buying a pair of socks, replicating the socks and giving them to everyone for free

Glad you admit it piracy. And using an actual physical item is a bad comparison compared to a digital game. Considering replicating a physical item is far more complicated because you need resources and good luck getting resources out for free.

it's probably around $16-$17

Easy, if you're worried about digital reselling, don't make digital copies. Not a single business died because of people reselling stuff.

yes. it has newer games coming to it every month. everytime I buy a game it goes to gamepass right after

>good luck getting resources out for free
the process of sharing files isn't exactly free either
>For the ideal purpose of sharing
the key word being ideal

>Stealing the game is obviously the only solution to these issues!

Just admit you're a NEET

>this is definitely bait
Its what it is, fucking google it you twat. Why do retards like you pretend its lower?
I earned 25$ when i worked as a plumber helper, i quit went into first IT i could get, and my starting job paid 20$ but i did fuck all, got some raises now its alright and i still do fucking nothing all day.
Life is good in the richer countries.

Faggot article writer that doesn't know the sheer amount of debt:equity ratio Netflix has.

Fucking retards who write this, start reading Forbes, Klipinger, etc if you want actual people with a brain, guys.
Don't read this tripe.

Also if you want polshit, read National Review then too. There you go. Stop giving in to clickbait by high school dropouts or fucking liberal art degree faggots.

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>Stealing
Nothing has been stolen. Papa publisher redefining what it means to steal for the sake of projected profits doesn't count.

I buy all my games physical. Get fucked.

In 2017, the median hourly earnings of wage and salary workers in the United States was 14.63 U.S. dollars

is your company a national company, if so, give me their name, i want to apply

Because Netflix only licenses shit. Game companies own their IPs.

damn where do you work fren?

>The Pirate Model is here
So close, Patricia, yet so far

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Please don't make me watch a video of a gay degenerate ever again, this guy is cringe af.

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argh

>play FOTM new online game for $1 in its first month
>it naturally dies out
>move onto next offering

Beats spending $79.99 and then having dead lobbies and dropped support for the sequel 6 months down the line.

Did that already release?
I honestly think it'll take a few iterations and a bit more ownership erosion before such things fully take off.

no online game, nigga.

But user, think of the poor shareholders and multi-billion dollar CEOs! How will they shave gold truffles on their imported beluga caviar if we're not constantly changing the law to protect them?

If games swap to streaming the industry will have become a perfect consumer mill.

People actually buy games brand new for $60? Haha suckers

How come reporting other players does nothing?

OY VEY

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Google disagrees though
eurogamer.net/articles/2019-06-27-dont-expect-games-to-be-cheaper-on-google-stadia

They're not rich without reason. They just need to be exposed to actual market forces again. It'll force them to use their wiles productively.

That translates to 24$ median. But you are right, my state is 28$, few states fucking lower the average.
Dont look up stats that include per capita, they include unemployed and people on warfare so they will hover around 15$.

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Not him but why would 14$/hr median translate to 24$/hr median?

>owning what you buy doesn't make sense anymore
Fucking clownworld

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I never wasted $60 USD in my entire life tho.

>That translates to 24$ median
what the fuck are you on about?

Image you retards,
Per capita median income might be around 14$ or what ever, but niggers and spics dont work or pay taxes. Median for full time workers will be double that.

>Subscribing to a whole serivce monthly just to play ONE game I might be wanting to play for a week.
Netflix is bullshit, I ain't subscribing just to watch Chapelle and Castlevania.

yeah, i don't replay games or even finish them anymore, there's no point for me to buy them, i will go full microsoft next generation

So you meant 24$ for full time median and 14$ for part and full time median

>the French
wat

Nothing in your image says median for full time workers though.

>There's also the fact that if there's a demand, someone will provide
Google couldn't get fiber rolled out even when they were paying the us govt to do it.
Fucking TWC and Charter 'promised' to have no data caps for the first 7 years of the merger

You're a stupid fucking nigger if you honestly think ISP are gonna bother doing shit for the sake of stadia/gp

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How do the creators of shows on streaming services make money? Does Netflix and Hulu send everyone a monthly cut or something?

>So you meant 24$ for full time median and 14$ for part and full time median
No, 24$ for those who actually work, 14$ including every freeloader who's in the workforce but dosnt work, per capita means everybody no matter what they do or dont.

If it's a Netflix/Hulu production they just pay for the production, otherwise they pay to have it on their service; it's usually a fraction of or the budget of the film. The real question is how do they keep up with that business model since I doubt they make that much money even with millions of subscribers.