Epic paid $10.5 Million Dollars for Control's exclusivity

Cringe
That's about 150k copies which is how many preorders Control had. So obviously Epic will still profit from it

Isn't this that bad game with the ugly chick with a giant chin that nobody bought?

PC digital toy store wars are somehow even more pathetic than console wars. Unironically have sex you fat nerd

Only if you consider a handful of vocal incels on Yea Forums "everybody." People who like Remedy or videogames probably bought it

kek you pissed off some Epic store fanboys.

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>bad game
Yikes!

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only that valve didn't invent it you fucking retard

>bad game
It's one of the best 3rd person shooters in recent memory.

So they didn't pay for even 200k copies worth?
The fuck?

but they sure popularized them in the west

Why is this surprising when we already knew Epic plays for exclusive deals? Obviously it would be in the millions. Steam cultists are so desperate for literally ANYTHING they can spin as a win

Don't you wish Epic was more like Valve and just outright purchased IPs, made them permanent Epic exclusives, and never allowed them to leave their launcher?
You know, like what Valve did with Counter-Strike, Team Fortress, Portal, L4D and Dota?

Wait. It's not the exclusivity that makes you all mad? It's the fact that you're all mindlessly obsessed with an obese billionaire with a beard who says the word "open" a lot? What was that you said? Gabe Newell is your Steve Jobs and you're all cultist Apple fanboys incapable of thinking for yourselves? And that you're all too young to have any frame of reference pre-2014, thus you had no idea that Valve built Steam on the back of the exclusive IPs they aggressively snapped up in the late 2000s-early aughts? And this was implicitly done to force people into installing their launcher?

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>dog shit writing

do not bully Sam Lake

There are no epic fanboys, nobody gives a shit about them, people are just tired of autistic aggresive steamdrones screeching about how Valve deserve a monopoly and shilling for their digital platform. You're loyal to a company so you assume other people are like you. But they arent

The store lacks basic functions and instead of addressing them they just buy timed exclusives.

>only that valve didn't invent it you fucking retard
Oh no, see, it was much worse than that.
Valve stole the idea for loot boxes from Korean grind MMOs. Valve saw that total shit show over in Asia, thought "Let's do that!" and the rest was history.
Valve is so creatively bankrupt they get their ideas from Korean MMOs. I'd actually give Valve some kudos for creativity if they had invented loot boxes, but alas, they just copied it from someone else.

>SUPPORT MY SOULLESS COMPANY OR YOURE LITERALLY EVIL
the absolute STATE of you cultists. No wonder you cant gain any traction for your loony cause. You people acting like a bunch of militant weirdos over a toy store is just going to drive normies away from steam

>People who like Remedy or videogames probably bought it
They sure did.
pushsquare.com/news/2019/09/august_2019_npd_game_sales_sink_to_20_year_low_as_control_misses_out

>Valve deserve a monopoly
Stopped right there
The fact you think valve is a monopoly (and that epic isn't laying the building block for one themselves) shows you've fallen for the propaganda tossed around by journalists and Epic. The Epic games store would be fine to use if they weren't so fucking shitty with their store and scummy with their practices. Hell I've had the damn thing downloaded SINCE 2015 when they had the game Paragon.

How much are they paying you per post?

So far looks like Epic Games was a huge profit for them. I don't see the downside here for the company.

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>how DARE they criticize my favorite drm ridden digital store
most of the """epic shills""" aren't even epic shills, they're just playing devil's advocate when discussing steam.

That's not a whole lot

CS = a mod
Dota = a mod
TF = a mod
Portal = a college exam project
L4D = an indie studio they helped to finish the game for and later bought out

So yeah... There is really no truth to anything you're whining about here.

>merely pretending

Then explain the David Cage movies.

that's like 3 days of microtransaction income on Fortnite. Oh no! Epic is finished!

Seething steamdrones, Epic can buy whatever they want, Fortnite makes like 3 billion dollars a year, you think that 10 million is significant?

Get ready to keep seething Steamdrones, BASED epic is gonna keep cumming for your games, buying them up piece by piece!

>one free game has been deposited into your Epic Games Store account

Don't forget that they hired all of these people working on the games so the exclusivity is justified because the dev team and the IP belong to valve, whereas Epic doesn't own any of the studios it bribes with money, be it devs or publisher, yet they still ask for exclusivity anyway

That's assuming a copy costs $100 user. Lay off the crack

at this point, epic is more hated than EA. imagine beating that

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It must hurt to be this stupid

Valve didn't invent lootboxes dumb chink. Lootboxes existed in gook and jap f2p mmorpgs way before they appeared in tf2.

How do you know how many pre orders the game had? Also check your math retard the game doesn't cost $100

>moving the goalpost

Good job missing the point of the entire post. Very impressive.

>epic paid 10 and a half MILLION for a flop

lmao.

desu they should have stayed there, western devs only copy the bad shit from Japan and not the good it's depressing

and how much does it cost to be part of steam?

>they

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more like they are just weak trolls with nothing better to do

I'd be curious to know what games you think have good writing if this is "dogshit". The writing is mediocre at worst, with god-tier direction. Kinda like a Kojima game.

Agreed on that. Wish valve copied the cunnies instead.

...and?

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No one likes those either.

We all thought EA was the worst. We didn't know about puppets of China back then though. We just didn't know.

Friendly reminder Control is the biggest flop of 2019. It got outsold by Gravity Rush 2 the month it came out.

Sorry but Control was really good, a very well built and interesting "world"

only hated by a minority of shills paid for by Steam to create a false consensus though

There's isn't any downside for publishers to put games on Epic.
No player that actually wants to play a game is going to not play it cause it's on another launcher.
As shitty as it is for players going on Epic is the right move.

I hate Epic, hate Time, and have avoided Epic launcher . But if Capcom puts Dragon's Dogma 2 on Epic only I'm going to download their shitty launcher.
Nobody and I mean nobody is going to not play a game they want too because of one or two more buttons clicks.

>$10.5 Million Dollars for Control

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I'd sell my own mothers bone marrow for a fucking dollar I've got no shame.

Do you epic shills want to know why I hate Epic, and steam by proxy? Because I don't want to download third party garbage to play a game I legally bought!

>hurr durr gotta stop the pirates
Thanks for inconveniencing me with 100+ layers of DRM like denuvo, a disgusting piece of software that both steam and epic encourage, which destroys SSDs and isn't too good with HDDs either. But heaven forbid I complain. after all I am just a goyim designed to consume product without question, Right?

go back to where you came from shitposter

Is there a face mod yet

>in an alternate universe TF2 got a loli update instead

only vocal steamcels give this much of a shit
go enjoy another dota2 spin off
maybe gaben will make half life 3

Imagine paying 10 million bucks to get something like that as a temporary exclusive

Timmy really has more Fortnite kid money than braincells

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explain whats wrong with Control

jokes on em i pirated it

stfu chink

Weaboos truly have no taste

It's funny that Yea Forums thinks ANYONE outside of the spergs here give a shit about Epic V. Steam BS. It's a made up war.

It's yet another painfully average Remedy action game.

>it's a shooter
>but there is also supernatural stuff going on
>story itself is average at best

I mean. Everyone who knows Remedy knows what they are getting into. It's basicly more of the usual stuff. Serviceable if just like to fuck around with powers and guns for a bit but nothing more. They have been producing the same product since Max Payne - With some minor adjustments here and there.

That's nothing one would expect to get a 10 million dollar paycheck. Especially after their last games didn't before all that well.

sounds good to me
the amount of bad faith criticism this game gets is unreasonable
like people think they win something if the game fails

Fortnite is just a pile of stolen ideas, so what's your point?

Remedyfags should be glad that Timmy gave them a bit cash. Because Quantum Break was a huge flop and Control failing could have potentially killed the entire studio

Dead Space 2 cost $120 million, how the fuck?

It didnt.
Its budget wa 60mln$ including marketing , its development budget was around 25mln$.

I really liked Alan Wake (mostly because I' really into these kinds of settings) and I loved Max Payne 1+2, but if you were hyped for Control after you played Quantum Break, you're a fucking retard.

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i wasn't hyped about it but i was pleasantly surprised

FIFA popularized them.

> tfw pirate Control
> can't wait to ulock CORE VALUES outfit
> realise it's PS4 preorder exclusive only shit
youtube.com/watch?v=dfcR8AWIWyM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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That's good user. I might get it myself once it's 10 bucks or so and on Steam. I didn't hate QB, but they made some absolutely retarded design choices and I was honestly bored with it during the last quarter. The black guy actor was also phoning it in during those real life sequences. That fucking fight scene at the end, I almost pissed myself laughing

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Not him, but Control is way better than shitty Quantum Break

here youtube.com/watch?v=tzVnUXf3M9Q

EDF 4-5.

whitout thinking twice
i need money.

>10 million dollars
>Still can't optimize their way out of a paper bag.

Well, money can't solve everything.

Epic games store is the best thing to happen to the console market.

Pretty interesting. I always wondered what was the size of Sweeney's bribes.

>No player that actually wants to play a game is going to not play it cause it's on another launcher.

Objectively false.

made my day

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>No player that actually wants to play a game is going to not play it cause it's on another launcher.

I pirated the few interesting EA's games that were stuck on their malware.

>Release some shitty tps that nobody cares about
>Epic pays 10 millions bucks for it
I know Epic is making all the money right now but I'd still be pissed as an investor considering that Tim is wasting money like that

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So did they make money or not?

No.

the game flopped user

literally only steamcells quaratained in cesspools screech.
gabes cum is moving a lot in their stomach so some pain is unavoidable.

The funny thing about this whole thing is that we're now seeing actual chinese shills coming out of the woodwork because Yea Forums is so desperate to be contrarian. Yea Forums is unironically going to be responsible for the downfall of western civilization.

All I wanted to know
Thanks lads, this ones on Tim!

Stay mad bitch bois.

Good, it's the East's time to rule the world.

I'm so fucking glad I'm not a PC gamer.

Literally none of that is even CLOSE to what Epic is doing you lying faggot.
If Valve did to Epic what Epic does to Valve, actively preventing people from playing games on it, Epic store would close overnight.

Why did you reply to the same post 3 times?

>Yea Forums is unironically going to be responsible for the downfall of western civilization.

Pretty sure even if we tried, we couldn't possibly ruin it any more than SJWs already did.

you are glad that you have to pay for games instead of getting them for free? the state of Yea Forums

>implying Yea Forums will ever have the brain capacity to learn their ching chong language once it's forced on you
They'll just kill you for incompetency.

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Look at all this retardation,

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Off course they did, even satisfactory sold more than 500k copies, control doubles that easily

It also flopped on consoles.

this comment is like bizzaro world

the writing and world is the only reason to play because the gameplay is stiff and bland.

For a game that ripped off SCP it sure was uncreative in the creatures department. And the oldest house gimmick about a shifting building was extremely underutilized, probably in part to casuals needing a map for every game.

I'm gonna start developing some shitty game to get some of that sweet sweet epic/chinese money.

Did the game sell well?

The building doesn't shift though, it grows like a tumor. If you didn't catch that comparison during the game you either have a low iq or should pay more attention to the games you play, brainlet.

Epic is the Goliath in this battle and Valve the dirty merchant that gets btfo soon. EGS is a side project for Tim, his main project already took over Video gaming.

>he thinks $10.5 Million is a lot for a AAA game
the game probably sold like 300-400k on EGS

All I know and care about on this side of the market is that the devs are getting guaranteed money in exchange for limiting the release of their game on the largest marketing environment (PC) to one place.
Quite a shame for the consumer, but I won't blame the developer for not turning down guaranteed money.

So how much shekels did Tim pay 2k for memelands 3 exclusivity for 6 months?

>yfw gearbox have to do additional work to implement preloading on ebin platform
Ahahahaha

my university instructor wrote the story to this game.

they didn't pay anything for bl3 because it was a mutually beneficial relationship and sold way more than would have been minimum-guaranteed

I'm sorry I insulted your shitty SCP knockoff. But they do say the building shifts and changes so you can suck my dick fuckboy

I think there's no shitstorm if devs were paid by epic from the start to release the game in their platform instead of making steam advertise said games only to be epic exclusive

10m is a lot of money for a pixelart shit game.

I would do it.

>All the steam shilling
What did I expect from a board that literally threw Gabe Newell a party?

steam wants games to advertise on their platform even if it's a timed exclusive because they want people to find their page and wishlist it, the idea that they don't is reddit propaganda

Which game would make you give in and download the Epic Launcher, if it were an exclusive?

>he thinks people takes the epic deal because they sell more there rather than the big bag of cash for the exclusive
>they didn't pay anything for bl3 because it was a mutually beneficial relationship and sold way more
you cant be this stupid

That money is going straight into alan wake 2, right?

Iceborne

You answered your own question.

>10m
>control

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Sorry nobody bought your shitty game.

Remedy hasn't made a game worth playing sine max Payne 2

Epic is paying this big because they are paying for exclusive plus to make it 50% off.

If you are a game dev and get it as soon as you can because I doubt it will be this big for a long time. Just change your name or make a new company for your next game.

Jesus christ this place is a shithole, so many falseflaggers.

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Doesn't the Steam agreement literally state that PC games which are already released in other places must release on Steam within 30 days of having their page up and that games which are not released on PC at all must release on Steam no later than somewhere else if they want a page?

I don't care about this game or Epic store. I just want Valve to get their shit together and start cleaning up Steam's store. Trying to outsource curation has been a disaster. The sheer amount of junk to wade through if you aren't buying flavor of the week AAA make shopping a chore.

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dead space 2 was a great game. control was a POS

Wow she looks just like the voice actress

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Whatever it takes to get a (you) my friend.

>No player that actually wants to play a game is going to not play it cause it's on another launcher.
Hi, i am one of those players that is avoiding Epic store even for games i was interested for.
Your poit is disproven.

How to spot a spoiled teenager, the post.

>No player that actually wants to play a game is going to not play it cause it's on another launcher.
The thing is, I want to play a lot of games, more games than I have time to play, in fact. This means I have to make decisions about what I play by picking from my list. If some game dev is pushing anti-consumer garbage by refusing to sell on at least one of the many stores I'm willing to give money to, then that game just goes down the priority list and I'll play something else and get to it when the dev stops being retarded. Or I'll simply pirate, that's what I've done with Tetris Effect and Control.

Is this satire? This ignores so much context and the state of the industry at the time of Steams inception. Steam has been an utterly positive force.

Epic isnt blatantly negative because it's dividing an already divided industry. The PC is one platform with 10 launchers. It makes the console market look simple with its 3 competitors.

I honestly don't understand people who hate Steam and want it to fail so hard, can anybody who feels this way actually articulate why, because I have to assume its chink bots spamming Yea Forums.

I haven't bought the game because is on Epic crap. But maybe I'll get it on xbone.

>taking shitposting seriously

>can anybody who feels this way actually articulate why
muh Half Life 3

I mean, if epic decided to make games from the mods for their games, I wouldn't complain.

Pfft. Epic's so bad it's even hated by it's shill's

Im asking a genuinely question what the beef with Steam is. I do not understand. Bunch of Epic fans are like vehemently against Steam and cant every explain why. Its obvious why most people are against Epic.

Wtf, is that real?

No one is trying to spur on a PC digital platform war. We're trying to STOP IT. Unlike console fags that just egg each other on, then come on these forums and shitpost anti-Steam shit when they don't even own a computer, trying to incite the PC civil war because they're jealous of the PC gaming community.

Yes.

>can anybody who feels this way actually articulate why
It's console posters. People that don't use Steam. Typical American need for drama in their boring lives, and they think Steam closing down is super exciting so they cheer for that happen. That's it.

>No player that actually wants to play a game is going to not play it cause it's on another launcher.
Uh there's like at least 20,000,000 people on this website that disagree with you.

Its not Epic I just don't want to install another shit launcher on my pc. I'm avoiding to purchase the new cod too because I don't want the blizzard launcher.

Hell yeah

I'll install Epic when they have an exclusive I want.

Quantum Break was successful. Microsoft actually marketed it. Sony had exclusive marketing on Control and for whatever reason pretended it didn't exist.

it's cloudy exactly what sam lake contributed to the story. taken from imdb (also in the game starting credits)

>Sam Lake ... (lead writer)
>Anna Megill ... (narrative lead)
>Clay Murphy ... (written by)
>Josh Stubbs ... (narrative lead)

Is anyone here even old enough to remember how shitty the early days of Steam were?

Why should I use Epic when it's only going to be good 15 years from now when I can just use other launchers today?

Seems like Epic wasted their money honestly

>Unironically backing Remedy after Quantum Break

Remedy has been utter dogshit since Max Payne 2. Alan Wake was just passable. Quantum Break and Control are fucking amateur work

The Epic Store games are mostly pointless.

The single biggest franchise to come to PC next year, Halo Infinite and MCC (with mod proper mod support), is launching on Steam. It's by far the largest fuck you Microsoft gave to Epic, and they're going all in on a "buy and play anywhere" model. None of this exclusivity bullshit.

There's basically nothing Epic can do to drownout the raw hype that will do. Fortnite has a large audience because of the vacuum, but with the launch of both on Steam, Fornite will implode as people gravitate over.

Control makes up for Quantum Rape though

>Paid 10 million dollars for a game nobody knows about

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sorry user but most weeb games are obscure

>There was no room for Remedy’s Control, which will surely disappoint publisher 505 Games, despite it launching right at the very tail of the month

I wouldn't buy it even if it was on Steam.

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Chinks are literally subhuman

theheroes7.wordpress.com/2019/06/28/epic-games-store-becomes-first-ghost-store/

The devil? Yes.

The Ember Ghost Squad? Fuck no.

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Thanks for paying for my copy Tim!

>mentions dragons dogma 2
FUCK YOU REE WHY CANT I GO A SINGLE DAY IN MY LIFE WITHOUT SOMEONE MENTIONING THIS BEAUTIFUL, DOOMED DREAM I WILL NEVER HAVE

>EGS is the online store equivalent of China's ghost cities
>Not maintained, shit loads of money thrown into it in all the wrong ways, and crumbling

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wtf, Snoys got the superior outfit?

I guess they can enjoy it in 20 frames

>Counter-Strike, Team Fortress, Portal, L4D and Dota
You can still play 1.5 without steam
You can still play Quake Fortress without steam
You can still play Narbacular Drop without steam
You can still play Dota All Stars in Warcraft 3.

what?

wow tim actually spent 10.5 million of his hard earned chinkoid dollars to give us this game for free. thanks tim!

Thanks Tim!

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Epic only gets 12% of the sales and then you have to subtract out overhead, salaries, infrastructure, etc.

No paid exclusive is going to get Epic any profits by itself, they are using them to bring people into their store so they hopefully buy other games. That is where the profits will come in. Right now, it’s not looking like a real winning strategy. Epic becoming a “buy games that are Epic exclusive and then use Steam for everything else” store is not a successful business model. They need to develop a deprecate ecosystem.

I get dissing epic but why are there so many valve apologists, can't anons handle the thought of their prefered store to not be such a good company after all?

>why are there so many valve apologists
Literally ribbit. This place is infested with them.

I'm going to pirate the game and stream it tonight for some friends

$10,500,000 / ($59.99 * .88 after EGS cut) = 198,896.

So more accurately, Tim Sweeney's buying ~200,000 Control game keys on day 1 and just burning them so that 505 games doesn't release the game outside the EGS.

>Who?

Some faggot on ReshitEra that loves to rim Sony’s filthy ass

then there hasn't been anything you want released on the exclusively on the epic store

simple as that

Dude, they pretty much paid for the development for 1 year PC store exclusivity. That's insane.

liar
you have no interest in an of the epic games
just pushing anti epic agenda no different that game journos with SJW shit

100% false if everyone had their dream game released on epic exclusively they'd all download it without a doubt

Who here recognizes that both valve and epic are shit and instead use the store that is the most consumer friendly?

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>the building shifts
>actually it's just the walls ceiling and floor contracting over existing architecture.
>no rooms or wings ever change places, everything actually stays in the same place, just more concrete covers up entrances and office space.

I would use GOG more if they had more games released on it.
Any game that is on it and steam I choose GOG over it

But so many games are exclusive to Steam or other platforms I'm forced to play other shit. There's also the issue of GOG being seen as second class by a few devs. It's only actually burned me once, wolcen being the example.
Devs never updated the alpha and abandoned GOG players very soon after the first build went live with no plans to update the game or even release it on the platform. But they still took all the GOG player's money.

i have just been using steam for years and probably still will unless something on epic appeals to me enough to get it. i don’t give a shit about company wars i am just sticking with what i’m familiar with

gog.com/forum/wolcen_lords_of_mayhem/time_to_retire_this_and_offer_refunds

seriously look at this shit, provide a photo ID to get a steam key.
fuck off devs, I'm not going to dox myself to support your shitty practices

It sucks, I know GoG has been selective as result of this and rejecting games that will have this inferiority which is a shitty position to be in

Why do people bash epic for these exclusivity deals when it is 100% in the fault of scummy devs for going for them?

Not true.
I whould already have bought Borderlands 3 and Control if they were not Epic exclusives, now i will wait untill the deal ends or pirating them if i will end up tired of the waiting.

>if everyone had their dream game released on epic exclusively they'd all download it without a doubt
I strongly recommend you not persue a career in business.

because tim says shit like “the consumer will decide which marketplace they will buy the game from” when behind the scenes they are spending desperate amounts of money to keep the games off other platforms. if he just admited it that would be fine

>imagine lying this hard on the internet to save face and push your agenda

A dev isn't scummy for taking the money, they're making a decision that helps them continue making games with less risk involved.

(I'm moreso referring to the smaller developers, not AAA ones.)

So, let me see if i got every detail:
>Fiscal year 2018-2019 financial report
>Consolidated values up until Juny 30rd
>Game was only released in late August, yet the company had already got 10.5 Million dollars because of the Epic exclusivity
>In one year, we will know exactly how much the game generated in revenue from July 1st-2019 to June 30rd-2020

>Taking a deal that hurts your customers
Nah, that's scum.

Time investment and memories for when Valve actually made games. Not that it excuses the EGS, and especially not when people claimed Steam was "DRM done right back" back on Yea Forums years ago.
But it could also be that despite killing big boxed PC releases and making DRM the norm, Steam has done arguably some good, like opening the flood gates to indies more, integrating community features, cloud saves and shit. I think thats why Steam diehards get so upset over Epic claiming to "save PC gaming" like it needed to be saved or whatever.

I love GoG and I'm waiting for Galaxy 2.0 but its just a shame more companies dont support it, either for classic releases or newer games.

>imagine wishing so hard that people are actually lying to save face and push your agenda online

I like GoG when it remembers that it's supposed to be about old games.

>Epic marketing and shills are fucked

Steams DRM always was and always will be utterly pathetic.
I still dont get people who think steam killed PC gaming. Piracy is still a thing. Even if steam shut their servers today, there is absolutely nothing stopping you from getting your games back through piracy.
I dont buy games on X platform because of gay shit like internet downloads or cloud saves, i buy games as a way to say the devs "hey, cool game, i support you guys". Any other stuff that comes with it is just a bonus
If you absolutely hate the platform its being sold but still like the game, then pirate it and try to contact the dev and get a paypal email. Fucking Yea Forums got trigger to make a paypal acc so they could give trigger some cash without having to import shit.

What does Gabe Newell's semen taste like?

>there are no epic fanboys
>but Valve totally has a monopoly guys
LITERALLY nobody but Epic shills says Valve has a monopoly
Even some Epic shills are intelligent enough to not try and claim Valve has a monopoly

So you're not even getting paid while pretending to be retarded?

>$0.1 has been deposited into your Steam Wallet

Nice shilling gabe

Dont know, tell me, user.
In the meantime i'm going to buy some games on the real superior store, GOG.

>tim already made it back
Why do epic shills try to make that weasel-faced asshole into some sort of identity cult?

Quick question, why do homosexuals ALWAYS have to respond and get the last word? Are they just that petty?

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Envy

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>no replies

user,

>death for incompetence
>using a language as shitty as that
>being communist

In that case, shouldn't they just be killing themselves?
Oh, wait...

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Fuck, you don't even get videos like this from the hood.
What is wrong with the Chinese?

Don't you just love how they never approach anybody in need, not even a bleeding child?

I'm pretty sure you can download the pre-order outfits and put them into the game files, even on PC

There's still some human nature in there, you can tell because they really want to help, but get pulled back.
I read it's stupidly easy for chinese to sue people who get involved in incidents, even if they're not the culprit.
I imagine this is really fucking hard on the fairer sex.

Do you have some evidence to back your claims, steam cucks?

Aren't they only renting their souls for about 6 months?

Some probably care, at least enough to keep the bodies from affecting traffic.

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You call it a shitty SCP knock-off like there's anything redeeming about SCP anymore. The rotting corpse of the SCP wiki has been fucked to death by shit memes, homestuck references, and tumblr. If anything Control did SCP better than SCP does itself.

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incredible, this is what America will look like soon if we keep importing third world savages

Can't start a rebellion if the people aren't unified.

I need to see the term sheet first.

If you let authoritarian dildos fuck you enough, this happens.
Be glad you aren't a chink. Don't buy their games.

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Even valve lootbox is on better side as you can sold the items for steambucks.

>.webm of a youtube video
oh no

whats going on in that webm?

That woman will probably never be seen again. Fuck china.

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Imagine living in your little shitbox and getting dragged away for 10 years because you posted a winnie the poo meme

woman arrested for shitposting
very illegal in the hundred acre woods

>fairly beating your competition and being the first in the space to innovate many standards today is a monopoly
Stop using that word, dumbass.

No you sillies, she was playing Autochess when someone posted the copypasta. Thats enough to get her and her whole family arrested

>>This money is separate from the game's earnings.
well good for remedy, after quantum break flopped due to lack of good marketing on microsoft's behalf i dont blame them for taking the epic deal.

I pirated so im glad tim payed my way

I wish there was proof of this besides the twitter posts with no proof.

Not to mention CSGO, L4D2, Portal etc. aren't even "exclusives" (PS4/Xbox) and even run natively on linux.

Gamebiz seems legit and what's so strange about it? It is also not illegal.

Serves her right for playing such a dogshit game. Fuck china.

what did she posted?

>serves her right
>fuck china
pick one. was china right or wrong

Post it here to get some chinks invited to labor camps.

The orange box came out on xbox and ps3. L4d came out on xbox. Portal 2 came out on ps3. Cs:go came out on xbox and ps3. Dota 2 would never work on those consoles.

Is this one worth a pirate? I've been playing The Sinking City and it has a lot of problems but I'm enjoying it enough that I figure I'll play it to the end.

She essentially said the West was no longer the enemy, the Chinese government is.

locust copypasta just gets b& now

>getting dragged away for 10 years
if by 10 years you mean harvested for organs and murdered

reminder

>epic's chinese backers, tencent, incredibly mad because steam is a PRIVATE company, thus, they can not buy up like they did with epic
>even angrier because chinese in china prefer steam and PUBG
>they launch weird smear campaign against steam via video game media and their own launcher
>try to demonize steam with lies -- this kind of weak deception does not work in the west as it does with bugmen in china
>says steam is anti-dev even though it's the most open and most diverse for devs
>all this was done in order to try to "force" steam into a "corner" so they can get "desperate" and open the gates as a publicly traded company
again -- this kind of weak, see-through smear campaign, full of lies, just does not work in the west yet. my biggest thing is that they actually thought this would work. i'm literally baffled, but then again, it's cheating, sniveling corporate chinks who either buy up the competition or try to destroy its competition.
all steam had to do was stay still and say nothing because they knew it was tencent just throwing a misguided fit. honestly, though, with the kind of money epic and tencent has, they DID have a chance at giving steam some competition, but it's the retardedness of chinese "businesses tactics" that held them back

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She's wrong, for being chinese, and for playing shitty chinkshit game, and also fuck china. Nobody is right here, you cannot be right and be chinese.

chinese used to be good when they were pure. there isn't a single 100% ethnic chinese person left because northerners invaded and bred with them

>when they were pure
There has literally never been a time during our life span where the chinese have been "pure". The 'Great Leap Forward' ruined any semblance of culture they had left and replaced it with a fucking ant colony. What Japan did to them was a fucking favor.

why the fuck do chinks want vidya anyway?

it's just one of the biggest money-makers now

The game is written like it's a Nickelodeon live action show for teens with everything requiring the protagonists cringey inner monologue.

Planescape and Xenogears.

I had a lot of fun with the powers. It's the first good Star Wars game, if you don't count Movie Battles II

Tencent is the right arm of the Chinese Tech industry. It's like Google, Amazon, Twitter, Facebook, and 90% of the videogame devs rolled into one.

None of that has anything to do with me. I don't give a fuck if Gabe loses money. I don't give a fuck if China owns anything. I like EGS. I'm getting free games every week and I get to play Control and Borderlands 3 right now. None of your drivel amounts to a wet fart when it comes to me playing games. I don't concern myself with billionaires.

And don't you dare say they'll spy on me. That ship sailed over a decade ago. Everything everyone does is out there. It's literally meaningless to even pretend info should be private anymore.

I think it has a lot more to do with communism and the Chinese Cultural Revolution but I'm not really into jumping to ethnonationalism as the solution to every problem.

No GOG = no buy. Also 10.5$ million is literally nothing. The game was selling so bad that they had it on sale 50% off one week in. Epic shills don't get it but CONTROL killed itself for a measly 10.5 mil and will never reach its potential. If they had the game on all stores they would've gotten a bigger install base = more word of mouth = more sales = more people that would be interested in future DLC = more people interested in future installments of the game = more money long term. So the publisher killed the series for a quick buck. Very stupid.

Of course
Money is money

No, but I'd sell the "good will" of fat asses that don't even pay for my game for that much.

I don't why people are getting so upset over this when valve completely bought entire teams and studios to make exclusive games for steam

This is why Remedy is going under. Fat asses like me are the people who actually buy a lot of games. We are the ones that generate word of mouth. Having the good will of someone like me mean future peorders and DLC bought. Look with CDPR. They have my good will so i preordered Cyberpunk 2077. Remedy on the other hand will never EVER see my money. Also i will be preordering Baldur's Gate 3 the moment it becomes available on GOG. Larian are another developers that have my respect and have earned preorders from me.

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Owning a game development studio =/= buying exclusivity rights. Steam is still shit but is less shit than EGS.

>No player that actually wants to play a game is going to not play it cause it's on another launcher.
*raises hand* Hi there, I would really like to play "The Division 2" but Ubisoft has stupidly made it exclusive to their store and the Epic Games Store, and like hell am I buying off both when I have the first on Steam.

is it even possible to stop the chinese?

...then just get it on EGS, valve shill.

youtube.com/watch?v=rmBhQtB5nM0

Console people don't care about that stupid fight of steamfags vs Epic, but EA is hated by EVERYONE, so no, EA is still the most hated

so you went back to your internet marketing manager and he told you to post that, didn't he?

little advice:
just because a post is a little lengthier than most posts, it does not mean it is correct nor a good opinion. in fact, most of your post was opinion, and that is the problem in itself.
what i mean by that is "who the fuck are you and why do you think people should take your own personal opinion seriously?" no one cares about retarded cookie-cutter opinions. no one cares about what you are playing. your posting tactics are so terribly bad and wrong. it just doesn't work here

you guys might even be mixing up appeal to emotion vs. facts on the respective websites you shill on because you know certain sites appeal to certain things -- you're just either taking desperation measures or mixing up your crowds right now

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Why would you want to play Generic Ubishit: Chest High Walls 2 in the first place?

>into some sort of identity cult?
Fucking hilarious considering the whole based gaben
lmao

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Yes. Literal trash game, one step above a shitty tech-demo for stuff nobody asked for. Not good, hardly impressive. 10M for it sell like shit. Well done epictards.

Wow, you sound so important! You literally hold the key to success or failure for developers! I bet they're terrified of you, and desperate to earn your respect user.

Considering this game would've bombed on Steam anyway, the EGS deal probably let them at least break even.

get woke go broke
SCP Control tranny shills on Yea Forums BTFO

>Valve is pro-monopoly and Epic is anti-monopoly
>new Steam games are also on GOG
>Epic games are only on Epic
excuse me?

KEK

Tim really paid for my copy? I don't feel so bad now, I may buy it for 5 dollars only because I liked it, yes I like to read in my games.

>be the only one actually improving your launcher
>the rest haven't been updated for years
>OMG SO UNFAIR

Remedy is a disgraceful studio

>but they sure popularized them in the west
stfu pls lol

>new Steam games are also on GOG
Excuse me valve dron but can i buy resident evil 2 on gog? What about seikiro? Or yakuza? Which games besides some old and some indies are on gog
valve is a monopoly

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They did thats. All i hear from valveniggers
>steam revived pc gaming
By that logic they also made lootboxes a trend

If Valve is a monopoly, how come Epic, GoG, uPlay, Origin, Battle.net and G2A exist? Checkmate, chinkcel.

>Excuse me valve drone but can i buy resident evil 2 on gog? What about seikiro? Or yakuza?
you're actually advertising steam right now in a very positive light, and you are telling everyone they have good games on their platform

the real answer is that the publishers of those games would rather have them on steam and other key websites other than GOG. you have to tell the publishers and the devs of those games to put them on GOG

people who play games don't really care who is -- or isn't -- a monopoly. these people just go to the best platform. i think you are confusing video game fans and shareholders/investors

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so if epic had good games, that would paint them in a positive light?
cool cant wait for shenmue 3

yes -- you get it now. it's just that epic's store is nowhere are deep as other platforms and even key sites

you're not going to say anything about how it is the publisher's job to get the games on GOG?

I just think the hypocrisy is laughable.
Steam has an exclusive game, it makes steam better
Epic has an exclusive game, people dislike it

Not if I thought I could make way more than $10.5 million. Hence why the idea that "startup buyouts = monopoly" is absolutely fucking retarded.

Devs who don't think the money is worth it for the exclusivity won't take the deal. Simple as that.

Why don't steamdrones understand Steam is a store and not a product and its services are only as good as the games available to use them? Outside of like 3 Jap companies, Steam has absolutely nothing anymore except asset flips, weebporn, and "pixel retro platformer survival crafting zombie walking simulator" indie trash.

that is just wrong. valve made those games. if this were the case, bloodborne allowed to on nintendo, xbox, and PC

you remember, though. come onnn, buddy
>borderlands 3 for preorder on steam
>the game had to be pulled from steam when it became epic-exclusive
they had every right to be angry. if i were one of those people who were into shit games like BL3 and had the game pulled all of a sudden because someone took it away with an exclusive deal, i'd be angry too. but, you know, i don't play shit games

>Steam has absolutely nothing anymore
>was literally just whining about Steam having all of the games
At least be consistent with your shitposting

He never said Valve had a monopoly, he said the drones want them to have one. All you did was prove him right by seeing the word monopoly and immediatly flying off the handle because you've been trained to spout off the same bullshit like a shill except you do it FOR FREE for a company that doesn't give a single shit about you.

So this is the cost of exclusivity. This is why devs are going to Epic, not because epics will get them more sales. Because they’re getting a fat pay eh k.

Chinese Communist Party aka Epic games store

Good to know Valve made Residetn Evil 2 and Yakuza.

BL3 was never on Steam.
Not the same guy, just commented because I see this idiotic notion that Steam itself is a product constantly.

you know, your posting is getting better, but steam is way too big to sway someone away from it with just the mention of
>Outside of like 3 Jap companies, Steam has absolutely nothing anymore except asset flips, weebporn, and "pixel retro platformer survival crafting zombie walking simulator" indie trash
non-jp games sell more. do you bring this up because i posted a few animu pics? i'm not everyone on Yea Forums, you know

>It's Valve's fault other companies only use Steam and nothing else
What is preventing those companies from selling their game on other PC stores?

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So you dumb chink shills are so retarded that you accidentally refute each other

>Not the same guy, just commented because I see this idiotic notion that Steam itself is a product constantly.
This doesn't have to do with anything. You should actually reply and try to refute the important parts of people's posts. You are trying to change the subject. Talk about the part how it is Capcom's job to put RE2 on GOG. The publisher.

Probably nothing, but don't let that distract from the fact you said Yakuza was a Valve game.

EPIC
>Expect Payment In Communism

I'm not even that user, you dumb chinkworm.

Why do you think someone needs to be swayed? People will use whatever launcher that has the games they want to play. You guys constantly use this "muh consumer rights!" line not understanding it means nothing, because the consumer isn't involved in the production of the content at all.
If people don't put their game on Steam, Steam has nothing to sell, and people will be forced to use a different store. In the same way that the drug companies price their meds at 5 billion dollars, and everyone is forced to pay it. You as the consumer are worthless, all you can do is not play it, or pirate it and then when the market falls out after enough people do that, they'll go back to consoles. Steam created this console like account license system, and now they're paying for it.

sure you aren't

>and now they're paying for it
How?

>or pirate it
And this is why your shitty "consumer is useless" ideology doesn't fly in the PC landscape. Every game can be cracked. Every game can be torrented. Before Steam, piracy was exceedingly common. Then Steam proved that piracy is a service issue. Now Epic is the issue, and piracy is the solution.

>you're not going to say anything about how it is the publisher's job to get the games on GOG?
They wont put their games on non drm monopolies
Also valve probably made them sign a nrda so they keep em exclusive

Nice redirection, ant. Tell me right now what is preventing the creator and/or the publisher of those games from releasing them on different stores.

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no one ever said nor implied yakuza was made by valve

now -- i will tell YOU why YOU said people thought yakuza was made by valve. read carefully

it is pure projection of your own people. your people are so retarded and brain-dead, they will believe something that stupid. something that stupid just does not work in the west

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>probably
I'll take "no proof baseless accusation" for a hundred.

>This doesn't have to do with anything.
Yes it does. You posted
>these people just go to the best platform
this is completely and utterly false, millions of people used Steam when HL2 came out and it was a horrendous platfom, millions of people use Epic to play Fornite and Borderlands, people will simply use the store that offers them a product they want, or, if multiple stores offer the same product, the store they've already spent the most money at.

>people who play games don't really care who is -- or isn't -- a monopoly
People should thats why drm companies get stronger(like valve)

A pirate, by defination is not a consumer, and Steam did nothing to curtail piracy. Piracy constantly stays the same or rises and has every year. The entire notion Steam did anything to curb piracy was marketing bullshit from Steam itself.

>no one ever said nor implied yakuza was made by valve
lol do you get off on being wrong?

>agreeing with him
Nice, chink. You are learning.

>A pirate, by defination is not a consumer
I am consuming your media without paying you for it. Deal with it, faggot. Steam turned an entire generation of pirates into paying customers, and no matter how much you try to rewrite history, it's not going to work.

hey, Yea Forums
take a good look at this post this kind of idiot nonsense is a part of their culture. you know, lying

some really good examples of chinese culture ITT

If you believe anything you just typed you're an unironic drone.

Yes, but EA is still worse.
Justice for Pandemic

I mean, the game was a colossal sales failure so in hindsight the EGS deal was probably for the best.

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I lived through that era, unlike you. Grow up, teenager. Lying doesn't make you cool.

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>valve made those games
>valve made those games
>VALVE MADE THOSE GAMES
I knew steamdrones were sad but shit.

10.5 million that Remedy won't see. They already got paid and I doubt bonuses or residuals are on the table.

Big shout out to my favorite creepy wanker Tim for paying for my copy

Also what I was thinking.

>What is preventing those companies from selling their game on other PC stores?
Gee i dont know maybe bribing or something money related for sure we are talking about companies that MAKE MONEY so theres no reason for the game to be exclusive to steam other than money really it should be available everywhere but the obvious reason is 100% valve keep em hostage

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DAMN he pretty buff for a middle aged chink

Because a company with
>more money than them
>more revenue than them
>and deeper ties to multiple devs and publishers in the industry than them
has now made it their sole mission to destroy and replace them.

The digital foundry guys pointed out its weird control didnt focus on optimizing the ps4 version since it has the largest potential source of sales.
I think because of epic the remedy guys chose to focus on pc/rtx stuff instead. Possibly nvidia too.

>fact you said Yakuza was a Valve game.
Where you retard quote it please

>Bribing
Ah yes, Steam has totally bribed every major studio that has released a game on their platform, and nobody has ever spoken out about it. Please, user, do tell me more, before you take your medication.

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Olygomonopoly

Thanks for proving you're a drone, because otherwise you'd know that Valve created more piracy by forcing Steam on HL2 than they ever prevented.

Why? So I can quote the post again and you just say I'm retarded for no reason?
Fuck off, go huff Gaben's farts.

another lesson in chinese culture, Yea Forums

this post this is actually a tactic they learned from israel. chinese scholars believe israel controls the US and they have been studying on how they did it for awhile now

in this specific case, projecting your own problems, wrongdoings, and putting words in your opponents' mouth is the very idea

>Piracy constantly stays the same or rises and has every year.

Then why do we have data on piracy rates going back up on television shows with the advent of every fucking network ever having their own streaming services?

>Borderlands 3
Kek. Imagine actually wanting to play the worst that triple-A has to offer.

Man Valve fanboys are the gift that keeps on giving.

I want Steam to fail so Valve would have to stop being so fucking lazy and step up their game.

Are you retarded?

>Valve created more piracy by forcing Steam on HL2 than they ever prevented.

Is that how they were able to turn the markets of Russia and China into viable places to sell games and actually make money?

Piracy went down prior to that retard, what with everyone just needing to have a Netflix account and that was it. I figured that didn't need saying

>Remedy had a $10 million free bonus to make a video game
cool

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but valve is shit. they don't makes games anymore. they turned into investors who are looking for the next big thing while they collect money from steam

They never did that though. Chinks and slavs only play their F2P or multiplayer only games, the monetize the first through microtransactions, and the second by having an unplayable pirated version. Both regions pirate everything else, and Steam never changed that, nor is there literally any data to suggest they did.

Yeah and I'm not actually Chinese.

Timmy Tencent in 2008:
>WAAAHHH PC IS DEAD THERE'S TOO MANY PIRATES
Timmy Tencent in 2018:
>STEAM HAS REVIVED PC GAMING AND NOW CHINA WANTS A PIECE OF THAT PIE

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It's a renamed SCP foundation.

I think a big issue is the performance problems.

Piracy didn't go down though. Piracy never go goes down, because pirates will pirate things like always. The only people who cause piracy to fluctuate are ones who start pirating for other reasons and thus it always rises or stays steady.

Do you actually have any data to back up the shit you're spewing?

Theres the exact same number of pirates as in 2008, theres just microtransactions, lootboxes, cosmetics, and other things like that that make F2P or online only (i.e unpirateable) games the most profitable.

>Theres the exact same number of pirates as in 2008
Back up your claims please.

Feel free to go look up media industry reports on piracy and notice how it never has a massive dip and instead just stays basically the same or rises.
now can you point me to a single bit of evidence that Steam accounted for a drop in piracy that wasn't made by Valve themselves to market to publishers?

I asked for some data, not for you to send me on a search of something so you don't have to actually back up your claims.

Looking at that article, yeah, he's right. Console is a much bigger market than PC is. PC is pretty much a high-end niche now and everyone knows it.

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You're the one who originally made the claim Steam stopped piracy you fucking drone. Type "Media piracy rates" into google and back up your own bullshit claims

I would and then have an employee leak a crack of my game somewhere, It's already paid for what do I care.

>It's just a pure coincidence that the market exploded, revenues skyrocketed and everyone stopped thinking of piracy as a major issue when Steam blew up!
And it's just a pure coincidence that Epic, who had crawled away with their tails between their legs, are now coming back to feast on scraps left behind by Steam.

>You're the one who originally made the claim Steam stopped piracy
I quoted you in two different spots to make it clear you're talking to a new person

Oh yes nevermind le BASED GABEN would never do anything wrong NEVER anyone saying otherwise is a schizo lmao PRAISE GABEN THE KING OF THE KING PC MONOPOLY :^)

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>Console is a much bigger market than PC is
No it's not, Timmy.

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He's the king of PC, alright. But it's not a monopoly, seething chink. :)

>the epic shill calling other people shills
oh the irony

False, I can't be sure Epic (or rather EGS) will still be around 20 years from now, whereas Steam I'm reasonably sure will be, and GOG likewise and is even better since you can just backup all the installers just in case. I have nothing against Epic besides it being Tencent/CPC property and the recent shady stuff, I'm even learning UE4 and admire it for how good it is, but Steam is not a public company and won't get bought out while it has enough cash to keep its servers and service online for decades to come. Buying from EGS feels a lot like buying from any of the other failed digital distributors that have ceased to exist. And before you ask, yes I do require my digital license to remain valid for at least 10 years whether I'll be playing the game before then or not, otherwise I might as well just forfeit any illusion of owning a 'license to play' and pirate something anyway. Supporting developers is good but not at the cost of actually spending money on thin air.
It's also worth noting the communist party really hates videogames with a passion (as it hates everything it can't control 100%) and even disregarding all the Xinjiang concentration camp stuff (and I don't know why you would disregard that but for the sake of argument) I can't reconcile that with making a purchase from one of their companies, especially when I spend hundreds on games every year.

>Steam turned an entire generation of pirates into good goys accepting drm*
:^)

The market exploded because League of Legends became the most popular and played videogame of all time and proved that F2P multiplayer games with microtransactions was a viable business model.
Steam existed from 2004-2010 and no one gave a shit and still bitched about piracy because it didn't deter anything.

Steam is not DRM. Steamworks is DRM. But I don't expect a dogbrain like you to understand the difference.

>unironically great game caught in the middle of a crossfire between assblasted steamdrones and epic games store, because game's publisher decided to take exclusivity deal

Add to that the fact that MC doesn't look like one of these run-of-the-mill Japanese women characters, and what we get is a perfect storm of hate for the game, a storm which started for all the wrong reasons.

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It's unironically one of the best shooters in recent memory, though.

I mean I got it free with my videocard, but I'd pay $30 for it

>The market exploded because League of Legends became the most popular and played videogame of all time
Objectively false. It's not even as big as Minecraft is. Tencent, as you probably know, being one of their employees, is also a bunch of liars that fake player numbers.

Steam by its very nature is DRM by tying every purchase you make to an account which must be verified and logged into to to obtain the rights to download your purchase

That is when literally every AAA game has online component with loot boxes and rich people are paying majority of the revenue.

>Steam by its very nature is DRM
Yet I can unplug my ethernet cable and play games just fine.

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hey dipshit I know you werent born yet, but LoL existed before Minecraft and Fortnite were released

Performance is shit on consoles, yes.
But if you're talking about the PC version, you really have no room to complain if you don't at least have a 2070. People always bitch and moan that PC games are downgraded for consoles, then when one comes around that's actually meant for top-tier hardware they bitch and moan that they can't run it on their mid-range desktops from 2014.

Can you download them without signing into an account that checks to see if that account is assigned the license? No? Cool, enjoy your DRM client.

>Can't download Steam game unless you prove you own it by letting a server check your licence
>Can't play physical disc game unless you prove you own it by letting a server check your CD Key
How in the fuck are these different, literally everything is DRM by your definition

Yeah dipshit a CD Key is DRM, Are you literally fucking retarded to think its not or just 12?
You want to a know game without DRM? The Witcher 3 completle collection physical edition, you insert the discs, install it, and you're done.

>LoL existed before Minecraft
Smelly dumb Tencent nigger. Go rewrite history elsewhere.

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Never thought I'd see someone on Yea Forums defending lootboxes but then again we have people defending Epic now too.

>be Remedy
>make Max Payne and get a cult following
>repeat that success with Max Payne 2
>lose Max Payne to Rockstar
>produce Alan Wake for MS
>game is decent but a financial flop on the 360
>Remedy push for a PC version in order to find Alan Wake 2
>MS greenlit it
>the game still fails to meet expecations
>their partnership with MS goes on and they produce Quantum Break
>sales result into MS stating "Not every game needs a sequel" and the partnership ends 2016
>make a publishing deal for Control 2ith 505 Games who support the development of the game with 7 million USD
>sell the games release rights to Epic for 10 million USD on PC
>do next to no marketing for it
>game underperforms on all platforms

Remedy had a hard life

Don't bother reasoning with the brainless idiot. It's the same kind of argument those dumb people in porn threads use to say everything is cuck shit because a girl in a game has sex with someone that is not the main character.

:^)

>Steam isn't DRM
>Steam stopped piracy
>Steam made the PC market explode despite the PC market "dying" the entire 00s when Steam existed for 7 of those years
Are Steamdrones unironically 14 years old?

lootboxes are cancer but government regulations that restrict freedom are worse

EA should be free to shit up their games with microtransactions, retarded whales and children should be free to buy them, and sensible people should be free to make their voice heard by not buying their games

>>Steam stopped piracy

Absofuckinglutely nobody is saying they 'stopped' piracy. Steam did however turn a bunch of pirates into legitimate customers by providing a good customer experience, turning a bunch of places previously thought of as hopeless into places where people actually buy games

>Don't you wish Epic was more like Valve and just outright purchased IPs, made them permanent Epic exclusives, and never allowed them to leave their launcher?
>You know, like what Valve did with Counter-Strike, Team Fortress, Portal, L4D and Dota?
Nnooo dont expose valve scumminess

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Why do you keep talking about Steam in a thread about Epic? It really is living rent-free in your head, isn't it?

Is this the part where you pretend Notch posting a proof of concept wouldn't take off in popularity for another 4 years is the same as League being a fully functional game?
Feel free to look up total player data for each game from those times

>N-NOOOOO STOP POINTING OUT I WAS WRONG
Fuck off, chinigger.

Source?

>fairly
Yeah just just like microsoft with windows am i rite?

>people who play games don't really care who is -- or isn't -- a monopoly. these people just go to the best platform.
Not valve drones they seethe at epic literally who exclusives

Well if you want to use beta proof of concept branches, the first for League was in 2005 as an offshoot of DotA

>b-but epic
Pathetic

>Starts his post with b-but Steam
>Gets mad when the thread is pulled back on the topic of Epic
Never change, chinigger.

You actually are 14 years old aren't you? How does neo Yea Forums not know what DRM means

You sure as hell don't, since you keep calling Steam DRM.

By valve drones only lmao

>its not DRM you just can't obtain the product you bought unless you sign into an account that had a license tied to and then check that against a server!

>Don't forget that they hired all of these people
Then fired them afterwards they just used them

>It's not DRM, you just can't obtain the product you bought unless you put the disk in your computer!

Helping, or the desire to help isn't "human nature". Adapting is. You already explained why they don't help and that's because they're punished. Would be a lot less people helping others around the world if there wasn't so much positive reinforcement from it.

Muh cart

Nope

Digital
Rights
Managment
Its almost like Steamdrones are all 12 year old console migrants...

>so what's your point?
That Valve, inspired by Korean grind MMOs, brought loot boxes to the west.
>Fortnite bad
Okay then zoom-zoom.

>No player that actually wants to play a game is going to not play it cause it's on another launcher.
Ohhhh the cope.

>Yea Forums is unironically going to be responsible for the downfall of western civilization.
Oh no steam will lose their monopoly :(

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>Digital files are on analog medium
>Can't access them unless you use the analog medium
OH NO NO NO IT'S NOT FAIR BROS, I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS DRM TO INSTALL MY GAME

>Monopoly
You don't know what that word means, sweatie.

>being this ass devastated you were exposed as a drone

Yeah

>I honestly don't understand people who hate Steam and want it to fail so hard, can anybody who feels this way actually articulate why
I dont like drm monopolies

>be remedy
>release Alan Wake the same week as RDR1
>be surprised when your game gets overshadowed
I bet the genius who came up with that idea still has a job.

>buy and play anywhere
Really? Where else can you buy it

>You were exposed!
Rent free, chinky. Rent free.

MS decided that

Based

Could any Steamdrone tell me how Steam is pro consumer?
>If Steam is pro consumer why do they continuously allow publishers to wipe older or pre "remaster" versions of their games from the store just to force people to purchase the newest version?
>If Steam is pro consumer, why do they not test older games and ensure they are working on modern OS like GOG does?
>If Steam is pro consumer why did they lead the forefront on paid mods, lootboxes, early access and DRM?
>If Steam is pro consumer why did they trojan horse an always online DRM system with account based license registration into their most anticipated game?
>If Steam is pro consumer why do they refuse to curate their store and allow literal bitcoin miners, trojans, and completely non-functional games to be sold?
>If Steam is pro consumer why do they force you to agree to a ToS which states they can and will share and sell your data to third party partners, or else lock you out of your account with no way to download any game you have purchased since they offer no version of offline install?

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The CS guy got fired for being an actual pedo.

How dod either of them probe him right? Only retards like the two of you think ANYONE purchasing games wants a monopoly. Not a single person, even the dreaded valve fanboys you're keen to constantly strawman, gave a shit about launcher exclusives until Epic came in moneyhatting the games they datamined from their users' steam wishlists in an attempt to make a monopoly.

>I still dont get people who think steam killed PC gaming.
It killed physical games you retard

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It's kind of interesting to watch a market shift happen in real time
>strong female MC
This is already a dying trend and the sales of games like this keep showing it time and time again, not sure I'm too excited for whatever the next trend is though.

It's still incredibly smaller. Of course you could back up your claims, but we both know that isn't possible.

>Could any Steamdrone tell me how Steam is pro consumer?
it isn't, but it's one of the least bad solutions among many more bad solutions

Quantum break was unironically more fun than Control for me.

Lisa Kudrow aged like milk, but I would still suck on her pussy.

If you told me a few years ago console wars would come to PC i'd look at you in disgust

Steam drones derailed the thread you stupid nigger

Kek

haha nope

>steambucks
Sounds like casino fake money

valve drone pls

How about you stop talking about Steam then, chinky? Talk about Epic without using the word "Steam". I know you can't, because your shitty store doesn't have any merits of its own, but go ahead and try, just to humor me.

Buying whole devs is worse at least these exclusivity are timed steamdrones will get to play them later

valve literally stole those ip for peanuts now they only belong to steam.

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It's okay. Epic pays for the copy i pirate.

Why are there so many runes for "steam"? Pretty sure chink talk is one rune for one word. Its not some weird janky name like "glorious heaven home game" or something is it?

Look at the second reply you retard its impossible to talkabout epic without pcbros seething

It's interesting how epic just goes all in. It'll have to be years before we see data

So is this not the same where they pay that much for exclusivity in that number of cash copies?
Like, with hades from supergiant, epic paid I think $800,000 USD, but in exchange for that upfront cash, they get 100% of revenue from all sales until they've recouped their cost, then it's the 88/12 split, like a weird loan.

I think the game looks fun

Yeah, so let's support EGS instead, who also wants to monopolize the market...

You can play Borderlands 3, Outer Worlds, Shenmue3 and more exclusively on the Epic Store.
Wow that was hard.

>You can play Borderlands 3, Outer Worlds, Shenmue3 and more exclusively on the Epic Store
False. I can pirate them.

can you pirate them? Is there a crack for outer world and bl3? Genuinely curious I thought bl3 was some new super denuvo thing.

sure. being poor sucks

Where's that BL3 crack then?

For that there are missing a few Zeros

If you have no morality based hangups with piracy why aren't you simply pirating every game? You're not paying Gabe just for some useless social features are you?

>like people think they win something if the game fails
welcome to Yea Forums

But I am pirating every game. Again, you bring Steam into the picture. Rent free, stupid chink.

yes because the devil like god is not real so it's free money unless your definition of devil is jewish banks then no i'm not gonna

>at least 5 different steamtards spamming about Gabe saving PC gaming from piracy
>not a single one of them post a single source for the claim
top kek and then they say every tweet or article that proves no one but them gives a shit about using a different store is fake

WTF is that real?

>10 million for a guaranteed flop from Remedy

why?

thats not true at all, PC is bigger and more accessible than its ever been before

Pretty good deal for a goty, Tim already made his money back for sure when even fucking world war z sold 700k++ on egs, steamie can enjoy his shovelware filled spyware in the meantime.

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Steamies hate reality

Steam drones not even fucking once, they are mentally ill

>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST USE EPIC STORE - YOU'RE CHEATING ON ME- I MEAN STEAM

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Stay on the line steam cuck, epicchad farms his epic legendary loot this weekend, I'm not sure when you get the chance :)

>Epic intern.
Go make a console you lazy bitches, we don't want the console cuckoldry on PC.
Your fucking bosses at Epic had lootboxes in Forkkknife btw. Valve don't hold copywrite on lootboxes, and didn't invent them.
>console slave.
No wonder you don't mind Epic's pathetic console practices and inferior infrastructure.

UNREAL

haha what the fuck man. The level of shilling (for free) for Valve Corporation reaches even lower levels than Yea Forums on Reddit

Take your meds steamie, before you kill yourself, lying on a vietnamese basket forum for months is mental illness, Fortnite is literally the first popular game that literally deleted random lootbox bullshit now you can even fucking vote for the skin rotation so even that rng is not there anymore. Now back to playing shartifact, daddy gaben needs the booster pack money.

>Upvote/downvote icons on /r/fuckepic are literally GABEN GOOD, SWEENEY BAD

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If he was working for Epic at least he'd be getting paid to shill for a corporation, unlike Valve shills who are doing it for free.

Ugly femcel protagonist

God I hate rvalvecocksucker tourists

cope

Steamies need to have sex

>unpaid intern getting paid......
>PC nonexclusivity = Valve shill

Good one intern.
Epic fools are the only ones defending third party game exclusivity deals on PC, they are the only ones who can be shills. No one else is saying games can't still be on Epic Store if the pitiful exclusivity deals are gone.
That clown shit also rewards devs that probably should to go out of business, all around no reason to cape for that, unless you are a shill.

>Epic fools

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>Baldur's Gate 3 is on GOG
>Cyberpunk 2077 is on GOG
>VTMB 2 is on GOG

>>Cyberpunk 2077 is on GOG
>>VTMB 2 is on GOG

Also on Epic Store

oh you mean the company that actually lets you sell the items that you get and also buy them in the market place the company that does not have some shitty extra currency where you have to pay 10€+ to buy shit and where you don't see directly how much some shity as skin cost to trick young audience and which is convenient priced so you have to buy another 10€+ to get rid of the rest your money spend

yeah you are right fuck valve

>world war z sold 700k++ on egs
Proof?

I don't know about 700k but I have this

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Valve is literally disputing a court ruling to let people resell digital games.

that ping pong money is endless it seems

So? Valve and devs would lose literally billions if this passes worse than second hand or even piracy.

They still get a cut and its literally like their own currency

>>So? Valve and devs would lose literally billions if this passes worse than second hand or even piracy.

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>Cyberpunk 2077
Thats made by gog you retarded valve drone

No... not the billion dollar corporations... what ever will they do?

To think they went through all that work just so I can pirate it later on

good, that ruling is fucking stupid

yeah valve is not being by subsidized by chink government it needs to make money you chink

I know right reselling your DIGITAL games stupid frog were probably paid by chinks

>>good, that ruling is fucking stupid
>NOOOOO YOU JUST CAN'T RESELL YOUR GAMES

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Good job chink you will need it for your social credit

good question

New thread

If they don't manage to dispute it, they'll implement it in same cuts that Skyrim modding would have worked.
30% to Valve, 40% to original publisher, and 30% to person who decides to sell their game. And there will probably be tons of regional blocks, as well as limit on not being able to resell games right after they're released.

>Thats made by gog
So? Epic exclusives are NOT made by epic most of the time so i really don't see your point.

No games are forced exclusively on Steam, shill, less games are on GoG due to the no DRM stance(A good one but a lot of devs are stupid about DRM).

Epic can have those same games too if the devs want to put it on their store, but Epic only wants shit that hasn't released yet, because they are shit and no customers would go to them if games released on their shitty store at the same time as on Steam.

>hey bro wanna buy these 1s and 0s i got for a dollar in the humble bundle

New thread

Its made by GoG and is releasing on Steam and Epic Store, because CD Projekt Red are pro consumer.

They literally sold their soul to china, biggest steam userbase is from fucking china, they sold their biggest tournament to china, gaben is sucking chink government dick for his legal version of steam china,gaben produces chink propaganda segments (pic related, ti how great is china segments)

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>Valve invented lootboxes
Are you actually fucking retarded?

He'd need to sell something like 1,4m copies to break even though

>Valve stole the idea for loot boxes from Korean grind MMO
Except you can sell the lootboxes for $$ if you don't want them. Big point to leave out

Get your brain straight subhuman, yes it's true tf was the first western game with hats

New thread

Based

Who cares.

SFM models are here.

When's the porn?

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New thread

Unironically would be a good shemale character model

chinks dont know shit about games.
they definitely dont know how shitty western games are.

love how both chinks and westacuck devs get btfod