What vidya series went through this fate, Yea Forums?

Team fortress

look at tf2's development history

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Conker was never funny. People only found it funny because it was the only N64 game where the humor was something other than puns. It's EgoRaptor level 'poopoo peepee hehe' when you look at it objectively.

Sometimes this works though. Late Seinfeld Kramer and George are better than their early versions.

Tales of but each game got progressively more and more anime.

Kingdom Hearts. It gets stupider every game post-KH2. Sora goes from a usual teen into a dunce like Goku.

it was an improvement.
that shit looks boring

Fallout

Monkey Island, only even worse.

Zelda series with Wind Waker
And soulles Awakening remake

Mass effect
Duke Nukem
Borderlands
Fable

Yeah I agree

Commander Keen.

Well that and the fanbase

Commander Keen is a series that doesn't matter

If the Awakening remake were free people would be more comfortable calling it decent or even good. The style fits nicely.

fallout

The ONLY good answer ITT

Real life

This only applies to the Soldier as a character

Its like 90% movie references. The only reason it works well in any capacity is because the level design was fucking great.

He didn’t deserve that fate.

Disgaea has this pretty bad, especially with the first game's cast. Almost all their guest appearances are explicitly after the events of their game, but it's like absolutely none of their character development happened, and sometimes they even fucking regressed as characters.

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>Speed based gameplay
you mean momentum based gameplay

Mass Effect and Assassin's Creed

yeah id say KH

doom
wolfenstein

MGS
From
>hey this game has cool cutscenes and VA, I guess that's somewhat "cinematic"
To
>A HIDEO KOJIMA GAME DIRECTED BY HIDEO KOJIMA on every single fucking mission

Red Alert

Fucking Borderlands is the biggest example.

>First game's vanilla campaign is mostly played straight with a few light comedic moments sprinkled throughout. Mostly dark comedy.
>Sequels are just nothing but nonstop fucking outdated references, memes, and "WACKY IRONIC DIALOGUE XD!"

>release a direct sequel
>undo all the development
>especially for Etna and then shoehorn a brother in for her to try and fix it

and now the series is shit

God what the fuck happened to ass’s creed?

DUDE NUKA COLA LMAO
GET IT??
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DRINK RADIOACTIVE MATERIAL AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THAT IS SO CLEVER AND FUNNY HAHA THOSE DUMB 50s PEOPLE WERE SO DUMB AM I RIGHT??

Nu-Flonne is a great example of Flanderization. I hate what the newer games did to her.

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Borderlands

borderlands

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Almost all of them because game publishers don't know when to just end a series.

>First two games and New Vegas are all about showcasing the horrors of nuclear warfare and showing humanity rebuilding and recreating new civilizations in the ashes of the old world.
>Bethesda's Fallouts: DROP NUKES ON YOUR FRIENDS, LMAO!

Bethesda are just the worst.

Spyro up until the remake.

> Speed based gameplay becoming boost based gameplay
I think you mean momentum based gameplay becoming speed based gameplay.
Boring shit.

Ratchet and Clank

dead rising

For each Borderlands past the first one, it feels like the writers tried to make every single line of dialogue funny. As if every single interaction with every single character had to be a joke. I hate it.

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yep

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Halo.
Master Chief went from super soldier blank slate to saviour of humanity.

Senran Kagura.

After SK2 timeline getting nuked the whole shit went downhill fast.

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watch dogs
not that first game was good though

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Humor that tries way too hard and is forced in the most unnatural of ways is the absolute bottom of the fucking barrel. Even hardcore Borderlands fans can't defend the games terrible attempts at trying to make everything "humorous."

Ape Escape
>dude look at the monkey lmao
>what do you mean there was a specifc gameplay formula and good soundtrack? ape escape is just gimmicks with the funny monkeys in it
and also Fallout and Silent Hill's Pyramid Head

I seriously fucking hate the writing in 3 especially, NONE of the dialogue in the main story is funny, there's more of it than ever, and you can't skip ANY of it.

>New Vegas
>rebuilding anything
Decades after the bombs fell and people still can't clean their fucking houses

Also ultra dated movie references.

No. The first game is about committing crime. Every GTA game following is a parody game based on the idea of gta3.

Sonic once Pontaff took over, but in that case it was more of a direct leap from stage 1 to stage 4

devil may cry

Super Monkey Ball

Deus Ex

Yea Forums

"Patrician vs pleb" has always been a part of the site culture, but than it literally went into "contrarianism for the sake of contrarianism" and went from satire to actual extremists who commit mass murders.

Banjo-Kazooie

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GTA always had something humorous to poke around. But i feel that newer games are trying be seriously too hard.

Please stop.

DMC

Fallout

This.

Good picks.

The thing that kills me is that the writing in that made up example is STILL better than most of Borderlands' dialogue.

>the level design was fucking great
Conker was the turning point for Rareware

Everything from Conker on has been boring shit.

Knuckles has been the butt of every joke, turning from a lone guardian to a complete jock with ego problems. Luckily, Sonic Forces gave him a leading role, a responsible role, and much like Shadow, he was much like his best incarnations, Sonic 3 - Adventure 2. This was something I deliberately wanted from the series, and it delivered, that day when I realised Knuckles was cool again, it was amazing. One of the only series to ever deflanderize it's cast.

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It's what you get when you make the setting in a somewhat contemporaneous setting.
It's gonna get political, and people are not going to like that.

I want to say Danganropa, but thinking of 1 and 2, there are some pretty hyperbolic characters.

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What would you say 3 misses out on that 1 has?

little late there champ

Ignoring the New Vegas DLC where you get to launch nukes on your chosen faction and the giant solar beam gun from the base game

>a complete jock with ego problems
Literally what he was in Sonic 3

>the level design was fucking great.
the level design was ok, but the fact that the gameplay bit ass makes me reluctant to praise it for level design. Many times you're going around a map trying to figure out what to do next, and don't even get me started on collecting the bees after Barn Boys or navigating the Teddies stronghold.

Only the first game was like that.

This has been my biggest problem.
I can handle jank if it's an appealing setting.

STALKER, for example, is not a very good without serious modding. It has a ton of problems that I wouldn't put up with at all if I didn't love the premise, concept, and environment of it. My only complaint is I wish the series had stuck closer to Roadside Picnic in some respects but I understand why they went the way they did.

If Bethesda bought STALKER this is what would happen
>bandits are now le random borderlands tier except with a slavic aesthetic
>women now in the Zone and multiple strong female characters who look like bulldykes added into the game
>all quest characters are immortal
>Freedom becomes the good guys because "they like freedom" thus are progressive American liberals
>Duty are bad guys and become Nazis with gas masks and glowing red eyes
>Bloodsucker population quadrupled, given the spotlight, and are put in areas where they don't make sense because they're iconic
>big green super mutants added to the game
>zombies now scream and run at you and are everywhere
>more closely resembles Metro Exodus

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Not relevant at all to the discussion faggot

>appearances are explicitly after the events of their game, but it's like absolutely none of their character development happened
this pisses me off so much, like no one finished the game, they do the same thing with cloud. by the end of the games he has chilled out a bit, has a sense of humour and says shit like "lets mossey" but in advent children and cerberus he acts like early midgar cloud.

>can't skip it
Thanks for saving me the pirate when it gets cracked. This is the worst thing in any fucking video game. Unskippable cutscenes/dialogue peppered heavily throughout the game makes it an instant 0/10.

The MGS series definitely fits to a T.

he was batshit insane from the start

Flanderized the moment it began.
Its really a series you shouldn't take all too seriously, let's be fair.

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I really hate how everything must be political nowdays.

It's really hard write something without forcing politic bias on it?

3 felt like it had a different mood from 1
some of the songs didn't felt like Terada composed them in the same way usually

>STALKER, for example, is not a very good without serious modding.
The sick bulletdrop of the Vintar BC is in vanilla.

> first two games and new Vegas
>new Vegas
Of course an obsidiot NV nigger throws that game in the same light as 1 and 2

Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi. No, I'm not commenting on the quality of the gameplay or the games themselves, it just feels like the humor element in Paper started getting more and more tongue and cheek, and with M&L it feels super slapstick, with Luigi and Bowser the butts of 99% of the jokes (especially when it comes to physical or pain-related gags)

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New vegas is far better than 1 and 2

I have only played 3 and NV, and if that alone gives me enough to make an opinion than I wholeheartedly agree with the claim.

I'd say early game Cloud was more cold and dickish, but mostly because he just saw the Avalanche stuff as a paycheck and wanted to remain distant. You see him joking around and lighting up once he meets Aris and the situation has changed.
Nu-Cloud feels more like a completely new invention to appeal to teens in the 2000s.

Animal Crossing

Fire Emblem with 3ds onward pushing the waifu / dating sim shit to the next level.

Sonic Forces did a lot of things right in its ideas. The story, while certainly not good, it was definitely a step in the right direction. The same could be said about everything else, except for the gameplay and Classic Sonic.

Deus Ex was based on real life conspiracy theories with a near-future setting. The Squeenix pretty much threw out any references to real life conspiracies.

bone apple teeth

>complains about boost
>shows gameplay of speed panels and spin dashes that act exactly like boost

I believe that was the point, user.

Silent Hill.

Silent Hill 3 began the strong flanderization with LE BLOODY WALLS AND RUSTY THINGS EVERYWHEREEEEE WOAHHHH WHAT ABOUT LE RANDOM TWITCHING IMAGERY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT SH IS ABOUTTT!!!!!11

Doom's care is fucked up when you realize it's more about memes and pop culture around the series than just the games
Hence the movie design of the BFG and comic book references

Diablo

You know he's going to be back to how he was before Forces in whatever game he shows up in next. They didn't take a long hard look at Knuckles and decide to fix the character, they just needed to slot Sonic characters into some shit resistance story and he was fortunate enough to get handed a role that necessitated he not be an utter dumbfuck.

the truth hurts

when will you guys stop posting this damn letterboxed garbage?

seems I struck a nerve

Shame. Oh well, Path Of Exile exists now

This desu.

>CE: soldier with advanced kit, characters treat you as popular but ultimately just another Marine
>Halo 4: legendary godlike figure, pseudo-religious bollocks about being the Forerunner's chosen one, embodiment of human destiny, blah blah blah
>every scene has to be super pretentious and heavy, no more cracking jokes with Johnson
>literally a plot point that Chief can disobey his CO if he feels like it and his CO will get fired for daring to go against him

He's basically turned into a Chuck Norris joke taken seriously. Never has a writing team vanished so completely up their own asses. Hopefully they dial it back with Infinite.

>New Vegas
>dropping more nukes than Fallout 3
>epic solar gun for blowing shit up

I think Master chief has kinda won that rep

i mean, if you singlehandlely tore down armies and literally save the universe from annihilation, wouldn't you be considered the same?

Remember when Hitman was about an inhuman sociopath killer clone instead of le wacky memster in le epic flamingo outfit xD?

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Final Fantasy XIV, from the tone set in 1.0 to where it is now with retarded crossovers out the ass.

Huh? What's up with the tea?

Maybe NIS should stop using the first game's cast in everything BUT NO it's almost in every fucking game they made

this, i mean, most on las vegas got saved with the nuclear defense system Mr. house put in place, and yet the place still looks like detroit today

I don't know. I've always liked the feeling of being "just another soldier in the battlefield". And there are not many games that can do that. Maybe it's my autism, but named characters ruin a lot.

she's playing games with him and wants him to admit he misses her company, albeit as a servant.

go play the arma series then

Feels kind of like Takaki lost his way with Senran but I hope with a fresh start at Cygames he'll make a game that's as good in tone as 1 with good gameplay to back it too.

That’s how the first game was.

>post-KH2
>conveniently ignoring that KH2 is the game that introduced all of the bullshit elements

I fucking love the arma series user.

these are the objectively correct answers

Up and Down And All Around

you can't hardly stay as "just another soldier" for long if you start accomplishing heroic stuff

even in real life some soldiers stood out way above the others

Odyssey is the best Assassins Creed, up there with 2 and Black Flag, is not like AC was ever amazing, the first game was just new.

>in a somewhat contemporaneous setting.

GTA III to SA had very little and when it had it was decent

The problem is SJWs invading the industry after it consolidated itself as something big

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Poe's law, or why we cant have nice things and have fun.

I member when there was tiddy monsters and sluts everywhere in the series.

/thread

I don't mean to defend Borderlands' trashy writing, but you can go into the options menu and lower the dialog volume to 0. You can turn off subtitles, too.

I think the term is the Flanders Effect referring to Ned Flanders from the Simpsons

Great example. DR2 was pushing it, but 3 and 4 took the zany bullshit way too far.

Rune Factory got more and more over the top with the anime trope waifus with each new installments .

Hey, sometimes you have to shoot the Mexicans.
It's Trump fault for not building the wall.

EVERY chick in Blood Money had a big rack. I miss old Hitman, tits aside.

boost sonic refers to something else
I can't be bothered to explain what it is but I'm just here to tell you that you're wrong. You're welcome.

Came in this thread to post this

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underrated

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