If Cranky Kong is the original Donkey Kong, and he's so old he has to walk around with a cane, but Mario is the same Mario, how fucking old is Mario at this point?
If Cranky Kong is the original Donkey Kong, and he's so old he has to walk around with a cane...
Nicholas Young
Justin Evans
'Gorillas' have shorter life spans than 'people', user. Also Ash Ketchum.
Aging is a pick and choose feature in fiction.
Brayden Russell
Mario is canonically 24
David Brooks
No fucking way, he's only three years older than Cloud Strife? He looks like he's in his 40s.
Dominic Morris
The whole "he's 24" thing is simply ridiculous corporate talk to make it seems more relatable to the zoomers.
Not that it has been stated in any game anyway, so it's worthess.
Wyatt Wright
I doubt that, it's from a very old interview.
Jayden Foster
I'd say it's more of an in-joke at this point, much like him and Luigi being from Brooklyn and/or the homo nintendonus.
Logan Sanders
>He looks like he's in his 40s.
Have you actually taken a good long look at him? If you remove the stache that any guy past puberty could grow, he's a blatant baby face. Only in Miyamoto's original drawings was he old looking.
Ayden Young
You can be old and still have a baby face.
Asher Lewis
Every single entity named donkey kong is the same being.
David James
When Mario got sucked into the pipe from his home in Brooklyn into the Mushroom kingdom he stopped aging.
Ethan Nelson
>stache that any guy past puberty could
haha... yeah...
Owen Brown
Miyamoto says Mario is 24-25.
Here's the interview:
independent.co.uk
>“I think it was fortuitous that we didn’t put any restrictions on Mario as a character,” said Mr Miyamoto said in a Japanese interview in 2005. “Normally when you create a character and present him to the world, all the details get filed in: what’s his favourite colour? what kind of food does he like to eat?”
>But just the one detail was decided about Mario, he said. “Aside from the fact that he’s about 24-25 years old, we didn’t define anything else”.
>“When we make a game we take care not to add incongruence to that game’s world,” he said, explaining the decision to leave most of the backstory undecided. “With that caveat, I’d like to keep using Mario in future games.”
Alexander Hill
He's basically Steven universe with a big nose and a moustache
Josiah Reyes
>Cranky Kong
>Donkey Kong Jr.
>Donkey Kong
>Drift King
>All of them the same being
Why
>Still this whole stupid Brooklyn thing when New Donk City exists and it's implied the original Donkey Kong happened there
Charles Myers
ninceldo is shit
mario is shit
zelda is shit
congratulations if you like any of the above you legitimately have Down's Syndrome
David Williams
>Not that it has been stated in any game anyway, so it's worthess.
Melee's trophy description puts him around 26.
>I doubt that, it's from a very old interview.
Here's a video with Miyamoto and Tezuka for this year's E3 where they say that he's actually young, not old like many people think
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Jackson Butler
a literal bot.
what a pathetic snoygger.
Camden Scott
I think Mario's age on that trophy comes from the amount of years that have passed since his very first game. So he'd be in his 40s now.
Gavin Parker
Rare made this mess. We don't know how the current storyline is. The Koopalings got retconned to not being Bowser's children, so it's possible that nowadays Cranky is just an old senile gorilla while DK is the same DK as always. And DK Jr is a retired character until further notice.
Carson Reyes
Damn, you just reminded me to play this again.
Robert Reyes
>Rare made this mess. We don't know how the current storyline is.
Bro, they doubled down on it in Returns and implied that the Cranky Kong in that is the previous Donkey Kong. I don't understand Donkey Kong's lore but they have not handwaved what Rare did.
Leo Stewart
It's not, it's his estimative in universe age. Melee came in 2001, 20 years after his first appearance in DK.
Jaxson Robinson
Going by that logic Mario was born in 1981. He would’ve been 20 in 2001
James Martinez
Have Mario and Cranky Kong ever interacted?
Gavin Campbell
Gorillas live half as long as humans. If DK the 1st was already middle aged with a son during Mario's first outing, and DK the 3rd was born around the same time as Mario, the time, it would sync up that Mario could be in his early 20s and running a construction/demolition joint/beer bottling factory/cement factory/plumbing business, join the army and participate in that jungle war(Nam?), get his medical degree, & deal with DK 1st.
Only thing that doesn't really work too well is DK 3 being born but DK Jr still being relatively young when Mario is an adult, unless you want to subscribe to the original version of Modern DK being a grown up DK Jr. Which still doesn't fit but whatever.
Kayden Lewis
Yes, in the original Donkey Kong.
Ryan Cook
Snake's codec in Brawl also confirms that current DK is the grandson of the original DK. It's true they haven't touched that matter in the new Country games, but they can change if they want since Miyamoto says the Mario crew is like a group of actors, changing a bit of the lore isn't hard.
Jace Lee
Easy, the jumpman you see in the original DK is the father of the mario brothers
Austin Morgan
I mean after he became Cranky Kong.
Austin White
Then how is Pauline still alive in Odyssey?
Benjamin Smith
Botox
Kayden Price
>unless you want to subscribe to the original version of Modern DK being a grown up DK Jr.
That was never the original version. Rare just didn't know what they were doing in the DK64-GBA era.
Sebastian Sullivan
I can't believe so many people are still surprised with the "Mario Bros.are young twin adults" thing. It was never stated they were old, only in American live actions.
Ayden Gonzalez
There ya go.
Sebastian Walker
She's the daughter of the original Pauline
Cappy is also the son of Jumpmans hat
Parker Scott
He's mentioned as DK's grandfather in Returns so that's still effectively what they're going with.
Xavier Long
Wow, he looks kind of like me. I even have that shirt.
Caleb Ortiz
That was Lady, not Pauline.
Charles Carter
I think trying to line up Mario and DK's ages is overthinking it. Like how Maggie Simpson is still 1 year old, but other babies like Apu's kids are growing up.
My question is who is Baby DK, Cranky, Jr. or current DK?
Thomas Gomez
Yes, but if they want, he can still be his grandfather without being the original DK.
Camden Anderson
I would say current DK. Tezuka has once said the Yoshi games are a separate scenario, so there's that too.
Luis Bell
Retro Studios' DK was intended to be a new generation of DK, succeeding Rare's DK, meaning that that game's DK was intended to be Rare's DK. That explains why Cranky's personality was overhauled to be less mean-spirited, and the island is different. Nintendo probably backed off at the last minute due to the implication being that the original DK is dead (and it begs the question of who exactly are the other Kongs).
Owen Rodriguez
I bet DK Vine can explain what's really going on, they seem to know a lot about DK canon.
Nathaniel Clark
>meaning that that game's Cranky was intended to be Rare's DK
That's what I meant.
Logan Ross
That's just a joke. Old people can say whatever they want.
John Russell
Cranky is the only one that makes logical sense.
>but the bib!
DK'94, scrubs.
Oliver Morris
Since we are talking about that game I just want to say that this song is awesome.
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Kevin Edwards
Parker Brown
>Nintendo almost released an update with full-fledged level editor instead of the crapfest that is Mario vs. Donkey Kong.
It's not fair.
Blake Bailey
Juan Evans
Mario is immortal, obviously.
Liam Barnes
Mustache-less Mario is giving me motion sickness somehow.
Jace Perez
The first Mario vs. Donkey Kong is really good, it's the sequels with the minis that are not.
Eli Brown
me too
Jacob Wright
How did he do it, bros?
Andrew Martinez
what
Mason Green
I remember when NoA's twitter account was used as cranky kong and he was just shitting on casuals. I wished they did that again.
Christian Barnes
Word of god is non-canonical, mario's age was never stated in any game, therefore, he doesn't have a canonical age.
Charles Wood
>what’s his favourite colour? what kind of food does he like to eat?”
Red and Pasta with Mushrooms
Was this not common knowledge?
Parker Martin
Melee is crossover game, and as a result not canon to the mario series.
Tyler Gutierrez
Mario's favorite food is mushroom pizza according to an old, official Mario vs. Donkey Kong website.
Nolan Flores
He was stated in Melee to be 26 though.
Jack Hernandez
That was an estimate, though he's in his mid-twenties at least, yes.
Jonathan Barnes
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Logan Parker
Non-meme answer since everyone here is spouting shit
>The original DKC had DK & DK Jr. Shiggy told them that he doesn't want Jr. in the game. Rare then proceeds to give both a makeover and DK & Jr a new identity. Cranky was created to be old DK while the other two are original characters. This caused a paradox as to what happened to DK Jr. and why Nintendo doesn't know what to do with the story's canon. Here's what it would have looked like if rare didn't do that
Fuck Yea Forums for this misinfo in the thread. Educate yourselves you fucking dumbasses
Justin Cox
That looks pretty neat for a fanmade thing, he should give those sprites to someone so they can make it into a romhack.
Grayson Hughes
Jumpman was a different character to Mario, just like the old Donkey Kong is a different character to the current Donkey Kong. Pauline doesn't even recognize Mario, she just speaks to him like a passerby who's helping out.
Dominic Reyes
Cranky is the OG Donkey Kong
Jumpman is Mario's father
Pauline is Mario's mother
Ayden Bennett
>24-25
In terms of fiction that's the Japanese equivalent of being 32.
Elijah Lee
>Pauline doesn't even recognize Mario, she just speaks to him like a passerby who's helping out.
Didn't play the postgame, I take it. She admits she was too busy for pleasantries.
Why does Mario always go for the bitches?