Fallout has such a cool setting

Fallout has such a cool setting.
Why don't you like the games anymore?

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Because it feels like Bethesda doesn't care about the narrative aspects and just wants to make a stupid playground.

because it no longer has such a cool setting. It's only two or three games away from being stock science fiction.

>anymore
I like Fallout 1 and 2 just fine because they are good games. I've never liked beshitsda aberrations because they are hot garbage

you know all that 50s bullshit was never a part of the original games right?

because shit gameplay is not something a setting can make up for

It was, specifically pre-war. Post-war was Mad Max.

The original two were soulless Mad Max ripoffs.
All Bethesda did was inject personality into an otherwise completely derivative series.

why can't bethesda into vehicles?

good one

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Fallout 2 immediately ruins the vibes. The "franchise" died shortly after that. Then Bethesda bought it and somehow all the autists come out saying Bethesda killed it when they made it more popular than ever and kept the spirit of F1.

The autists attack and derail threads because it's not the failed F2 group anymore making it anymore. They spearhead this thought by using NV not realizing it could not be made without Bethesda setting everything up for them in the first place. Think about it, if NV never had been made and none of this would be happening.

Ugh I'd love a fallout with cars

Because the new games are shit.

Why is Fallout 4 so shit? It's a bad everything, RPG, shooter, settlement builder, crafting, survival. Even in 3 there's some enjoyment to be had.

Bethesda can barely get horses to work in the gamebryo engine.
Cars would be a fucking disaster.

>two or three games away

This. Fallout 3 brought the retro-futurism back from F1 after F2 ditched it. Maybe Bethesda leaned more into it, but I'd rather have more of it because that is what sets Fallout apart from other postapoc games.

Because Bethesda (and New Vegas too, although they tried to salvage what was left) completely retconned the setting in favor of the 50s aesthetic meme (which is a creative dead end, btw).
Listen to this shit, and I challenge you to tell me what's"50s" about it.
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Just play the first borderlands game

they would need a large map scale? not to mention with something off road you could get past hazards and mobs easily

>go to new reno for gambling and tiddies
>come back to find its been jacked
I was fuckin livid when that happened. Still the upgrades they give you are great especially after the end game where they pimp it out into a hover car with max fuel cap.

50s is all about car culture, Fallout should have cars and design maps for it

when it went from a depressing doomed world sim where mankind was trying to mitigate its slow descent into extinction and instead became manbaby 50s fashion simulator (now with added roman cosplayers)

It has the most infantile fanbase and I'm kind of glad the games are still being made because they're now a containment zone for funkopop collecting mouth breathing retards, some of which crawl out of reddit to defend that garbage here.

that car is a vehicle you can own and use in Fallout 2 you fucking poser

I've never liked the setting, a lot of things in it don't make sense

Vault-tec and the robot shit has always been very scifi, that doesn't change what the society was like before the bombs fell or that they were still using vacuum tubes and terminals

Nah borderlands is trash

I know this, but one can dream

Well, Vault Tec is supposed to be this enclave of people who have lived with pre-war comfort and tech for 200 years, so you are sort of proving my point there. That being said, I have nothing against the occasional vacuum tube or retrofuturist looking asset. It starts to be a problem when you throw all the other influences and themes out the window and make your entire game ooze with 50s whacky retrofuturism.

That's what happens when you try to be a jack of all trades

Vault City*

Smart post.

Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel was a better game than everything Bethesda made put together.

I enjoyed fallout 4 until HEY CHOOSE ONE OF US AND GENOCIDE THE OTHERS

Why wouldn't you want to genocide Fallout 4 factions? Especially when you seem to enjoy its garbage gameplay.

Because I can't get past developers aggressively being mad at fans for asking basic questions about contradictions inside one game, let alone a total lack of fucks given for the series as a thematic whole.

>had
That's why

Because the newer games are nothing like 1 and 2.

I like the *actual* modern Fallout.

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The 50's aesthetic is absolute shit.

The 50s aesthetic was great when it didn't go full retard. Fallout 3 was fine, perfect even. Then they started going so "retro" that they shat out guns that would be considered outdated by the 1920s.

Fallout HAD such a cool setting. They lost me with Fallout 3's tiny computers.

The only thing worse than not having choices that actually matter is being really proud of having false choices.

New Vegas was the last good fallout game and over half of its content was cut before release.
Fallout 4 and 76 couldn't even come close to an unfinished buggy mess.

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Everyone's rambling about 1950s aesthetic... Am I the only one who remembers how much art deco there was in the original Fallouts?

>tfw even if Bethdesa never bought Fallout it would still be shit today

Interplay was running the series into the ground long before Bethdesa was. I know people like to pretend FO:BoS never happened but still.

Just enjoy 1/2/Tactics/3 and let it go otherwise.

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>1/2/Tactics/3
You mean 1/2/NV?

Fallout 2

No I actually meant 3/4/76

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play Fallout 2

Van Buren seemed pretty interesting

I don't even need to watch those videos to know he counts ideas about the Legion from Van Buren as 'cut content' for New Vegas. Legion was gutted yes but not 'over half the game's content'.

>new vegas had multiple factions to pick
>OH YEAH WELL WE CAN DO THAT TOO
>the institute, the smartest guys in the wasteland using their science skills to make the dumbest shit possible with no coherent motivation for any of it
>the brotherhood, who have gone from tech hoarding fanatics to unga bunga krug no like krug smash
>minutemen, the self-insert faction that doesn't have any identity other than bland good guys
>the railroad, who are obsessed with worshiping robots and nothing else, i struggle to find anything else to say about them because that's all they have going

play fallout 2 or use one of the many vehicle mods for fallout 4

1, 2, NV and even Tactics are better than the Bethesda made ones.

>Tactics 2 was gonna take place in Florida and have mutated Gators and shit, but got cancelled

Florida is a perfect setting for Fallout, the place is already a wasteland as is.

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There's still this.
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Hm could hover cars work?

Facts

>mfw wasteland 3 is finally going to have the fucking winter setting i've been waiting for

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