>Digital PC game stores like Steam and Epic Games Store require a cut of the profits from games sold through their stores. Steam requires a 30% take, while Epic Games Store asks for 12%. By selling games directly through a publisher’s launcher, companies like Rockstar and Bethesda can bypass these profit cuts altogether.
>The release of the Rockstar Games Launcher has also restarted speculation over a possible PC version for Red Dead Redemption 2, which Rockstar Games has still yet to formally announce. Or even discuss for that matter. Rumors of a PC version began circulating when a reference to “RDR2_PC” was discovered in Rockstar’s Social Club, but the developers have yet to acknowledge a PC port is even in the works.
>However, if a Red Dead Redemption 2 port for PC were to come out, releasing it on the Rockstar Games Launcher would be a good way for the developers to keep 100% of the profits from the sales.
Ready for round two of even more Steam drones being buttblasted?
Red dead 2 sucks. Gonna take a lot more then that dookie to bring people to that store.
John Smith
PC gaming really is dead, isn't it?
James Brown
Is it the patched version of GTASA? Because if so I'll still keep my hard copy.
Adam Green
rockstar has had a launcher thing since 2008
Connor Gutierrez
It's not.
Kayden Miller
I looked at the image before reading the thread and thought it was a mockup made as a joke
Austin Gomez
obviously it's the patched one.
Jonathan Collins
Why does every shitty publisher want to open a new storefront with 5 games in it? No one's gonna buy games from an online store unless they can buy every game from the same store.
Zachary Lopez
They could have renewed those song licenses
Easton Campbell
A bug riddled zero security launcher a day keeps the goyim at bay
Logan Barnes
It's going through the Netflix situation right now. Everyone and their mom has a platform and all Netflix gets is useless trash. Just like Steam. Seems real dead to me.
Lucas Thomas
hopefully RDR2 will also come out on Steam it's where i'm saving my NEETbux, don't even mind the launcher, but if it's R* Launcher exclusive i'll just pirate it
Adam Hill
margins all AAA studios are run by literal jews
Ryan Thomas
nobody want to pay 30% revenue fee to steam
Dylan Bailey
kek pc "gaming" sucks dick. its only purpose is to play mmo's and gsg's
Easton Cox
>free copy of San Andreas already better than Epic on principle
Kevin Lewis
>hopefully RDR2 will also come out on Steam
Absolutely zero chance. Rockstar is going to do exactly what Ubisoft did to major success. Announce the game on EGS, but also on the Rockstar launcher. This causes the low IQ masses to say "Oh wow thank god it's not EGS exclusive!" and buy it on the Rockstar Launcher, rather than get mad.
Ubisoft massively boosted UPlays user base and sales by doing the same, it works.
Gavin Moore
Steam might be die but pc gaming wont.
Isaac Cook
its going to use this regardless same as every other r* game since gta 4, this is literally rebadged social club.
Jack Clark
so thirsty for whales that they will force people off steam now? fuck those limey bastards.
Sebastian Torres
No they're just jews. With Steam they get 70%, with a console they lose 30% to Microsoft/Sony on top of manufacture and retailer cuts for every physical copy. They make far per sale less with consoles than they do with Steam but you never hear the "boo hoo muh 70%" about the Sony jew.
Charles Scott
They have
Kevin Peterson
Do you need to launch the game from the launcher for it to work or is there a workaround? Besthesda gave away morrowwind with their launcher but you could just launch the file directly and delete their launcher
Xavier Reed
"steamdrones" don't care about publishers making their own launcher for their games, it sucks and is bloated but it's their right
Go make another EGS thread you strawmanning faggot
Jack Wilson
>PC gaming won't be dead when every game has a half baked, security black hole of a launcher with inconsistent/zero refund policies across the board
Juan Perez
So this one doesn't have removed songs then?
Ian Richardson
fuck jewstar and grind theft auto
Jeremiah Rodriguez
Actually this just means Steam is becoming the de facto platform for Japanese game releases.
Juan Murphy
Idk about "this one" but they renewed licenses for sa and gta4
Samuel Howard
Makes sense they give away GTASA, given it's the last good game Rockstar made, they just make cosmetic stores with single player campaigns as a lobby to hang out in between purchases.
Lucas Baker
Rockstar just released their best game tho. Don't worry you'll soon play it pcbro
Hudson Reed
>chinkdrones still not understanding why people refuse to use their launcher
Josiah Perez
>don't have to do physical retail for PC >still sell it for $60
what a jip
Angel Ramirez
They released something since RDR2? Because that game was trash, luckily I bought a PS4 for other games as well.
David Martinez
>t. I'm 12 years old
And why would anyone care? You can pirate GTA:SA with an actually intact soundtrack.
Christopher Ross
i like this post
Logan Garcia
Making games for console is different from PC. Windows are open source, meaning you don't need to pay Microsoft anything, on console, you need the devkit and permissions from console manufacturers and a whole lot of NDA agreement.
Alexander Wood
They pay the exact same cut to every console, you moron. The reason they want to all own their own launcher is to strangle the refund system. Steam makes it too easy to get the fuck out of a trash game and get your money back, if they make their own launchers they can lower the time limits and run people through their own hoops to stop it from happening.
David Young
Nope, that's dlsite with playism in a distant second. Steam has nothing really.
Juan Brown
Didn't they already had the social club launcher for gta v?
Gavin Smith
Don't know why they would be. In the long run, massive market fragmentation is favorable for valve. People reach tolerance limits for this shit, and the more people are fucking around outside steam demanding attention, the less any particular one of them actually gets. If anything, it's Timmy Tencent who's screaming NHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO every time another publisher goes their own way rather than his. Hurts him more than gables.
Justin Martinez
Arthur contracts TB and dies.
Enjoy PCfags!
Nathan Clark
Is the San Andreas copy the original PC version or the shitty version they neutered with patches? I assume the latter
Jose Campbell
But GTA V also has its own launcher, and Rockstar's launcher has been a thing since like 2010. No one cares about developers making their own launchers for their own games except idiots.
Michael Adams
why would anyone play the official release of san andreas at this point? they removed half the music thanks to jews in the music industry and fan patches fixed everything rockstar refuses to address.
Angel Gutierrez
Console have a closed ecosystem. You have to go through Sony to put your game on PSN and that's the only way to do it. PC is open source, you don't need steam for anything.
Christopher Gomez
The consoles are drm and drive the most sales. You're not going to build your own console, the only way to reach console audience is accept sony/microsoft demands. On PC voluntarily giving up the 30% for someone who doesnt even provide the hardware to run it is insane.
Austin Ross
RIP Epic.
Michael Long
And just like streaming the only sensible move is to pirate everything
Connor King
This is the real redpill
Jason Evans
>On PC voluntarily giving up the 30% for someone who doesnt even provide the hardware to run it is insane.
And cutting your sales in half by sticking your game on a spyware client is better for profit? There's a reason every EGS exclusive only claims success but hides sales numbers regardless.
Gavin Sanders
Without defending money hungry corporations, explain to me why I should need a launcher in the first place. Can't they just sell their games from a website like GOG? Why do I have to download a client that needs to be running 24/7?
Parker Davis
You say that like it's not common knowledge. I lost interest and quit the game 2 hours in and even I know he dies of TB. If you're gonna be a booty blasted console warrior at least use something that has some teeth.
Christopher Rogers
if it was dead corporations wouldnt waste the money making their own launchers and just shove everything to steam ala the 2000s and there probably would have been a new gen of XBOX/PS released by now rather than slightly upgraded variants of 6+ year old technology.
Ryder Gomez
You dont cut your sales in half. Steam has negligible advertising power, you have to pay millions of advertise a game. If people want to play your game they'll install another launcher.
Nathaniel Brown
Streaming services required subscription, game launchers are free
Thomas Bennett
if they are giving the game away why shouldn't people just pirate it so they can play it without the DRM and add in the removed content?
Ayden Foster
>Steam has negligible advertising power >The store that's been selling GTA5 as a bestseller for 5 years in a row Retard
Leo Evans
That's just it though. The way Timmy does business, he eats those lost sales out of his fortnitebux - the publisher still gets the money as if they sold double that. For the time being it's a great fucking deal for jews that don't need good rep and name rec, but do need a big pile of stinky cash.
Jeremiah White
Are you fucking retarded? Rockstar always had their shitty launcher too. Fucking console gamers.
Jack Morgan
Epic hater here I have no issue with the rockstar launcher In fact I am going to go download it right now and play san andreas, I haven't done so since I had a pirated copy passed around the school dorms back in the day. Might even buy the other gta games if they are offering them cheap enough
Probably won't by red dead 2 since it looks shit but if they unspagheti the first (second) game enough to port it I might pick it up
Hudson Bennett
>You're not going to build your own console Sure you are, it's called a streaming service. Hence why every major publisher is launching one, so they can phase out consoles.
Leo Perry
Odds are it's probably missing some songs because licensing shenanigans
Carter Miller
You can see it in action with the EGS. Look at Metro and Borderlands 3, both launched to instant technical issues (The latter being MUCH worse). Within 2 hours of gameplay you'd easily run into these (if you game every launches half the time unlike BL3). On Steam you'd see this, say nope, press a button and instant refund. Publisher doesn't get to bullshit you or try and stop it.
But no, these are EGS games. Go and try to refund a game on the EGS, while they claim similar refund rules to Steam they are not automated. You will wait days to have a person manually approve your refund, and even then it's not guaranteed, they will give you the run around for as long as they can in a support ticket trying to get you to fuck off. But since Epic conveniently provides basically 0 community platform people can't publicly complain about these customer service issues in an officially linked forum, they have to bitch on twitter and reddit where it gets buried and forgotten and never appears in a google search.
It's a system designed solely to create an environment where broken games flourish and consumers have to jump through a million hoops to get their money back.
Josiah Price
Except the consumers lose in tv streaming since it is all spread over so many services You don't have to pay to use a different launcher so you are only losing if the launcher in question is chinese spyware
Jace Turner
>game with 100mil+ advertisement budget uh huh
Tyler Perry
Steam offers better infrastructure, looser requirements, and more potential customers than both consoles put together. If one considers the deal console manufacturers offer even slightly worthwhile then using steam is a no brainer. Of course every company thinks they can run their own infrastructure for less than the 30% cut and then they end up deciding to just offer a dogshit client instead with cost cutting measures everywhere which just encourages folks like me to pirate their shit since they don't have the decency to offer it on a competent client.
Jaxon Torres
yeah, and the steam pay for the marketing of the game? You're delusional if you think GTA5 sold well because of steam instead of GTA own brand name
Owen Evans
>Steam has negligible advertising power, you have to pay millions of advertise a game So literally every game released ever
Cooper Cooper
It really is amazing how hard the sales were boosted when if they had just made it outright uplay exclusive it would have sold like shit
Caleb Lee
Good, I am all for not letting corps trample over people but laws requiring refunds on vidya for no good reason are fucking retarded
Adam Morales
If you have a game you like and it not being on on a specific storepage is enough to make you pirate it the publisher isnt gonna consider you a lost sale. You were always never going to pay full price anyways.
Cooper Butler
This. Real men pirate everything, needing to refund is for cucks.
Camden Evans
Exactly, Ubisoft basically used Epics poor reception to their advantage and benefiting their own service instead. Shitty company but I have to admire the audacity and genius of that plan.
Brandon Rogers
>laws requiring refunds on vidya for no good reason are fucking retarded t. Corp
Isaac James
Lick those corp boots
Parker Perry
>You don't have to pay to use a different launcher
Depends on how much you value your private information because none of these launchers have any semblance of security.
Ethan Gutierrez
It just amazes me how corporate executives will shoot the Golden Goose just because they want to squeeze one more golden egg out of it. The whole reason why platforms like Steam and Netflix were successful was because they were a one-stop-shop for everything the consumer wanted. Splitting them all up and requiring multiple subscriptions and launchers just serves to piss off the consumer, and either pirate your product, or not buy it at all.
Jason Sanders
This isn't like the Avengers or something you tard. No one cares about Red Dead's plot.
Sebastian Clark
Another reason why PC gaming is shit. Just buy a PS4 and play any game you want on one platform. I don't have to register for 10 different accounts just to play my games.
Andrew Reed
Woah, seriously? And for the 4 too? Unexpected. Who would think they're going to spend some money on previous games instead of pretending none of them have ever existed.
Asher Nguyen
Telemetry, user trends, ect.
Andrew Wright
Nah, that's console convert talk, the reason people shit on Epic is because they were paying third parties for exclusives, no one cares if a dev wants to make the product they created exclusive to their own launcher. That said, I'll probably be pirating RDR 2 since it's not on GoG.
This Can you retards please fuck off back to consoles where you belong? At least then I won't have to hear your constant whining and bitching until streaming services inevitably kill consoles.
Colton Taylor
They don't. Both SA and IV removed 50% of the songs completely or replaced it with shitty alternatives
Juan Ross
They could also triple dip with epic/RGL then a steam release. I do love that egs is being used as marketing ploy while epic themselves is trying to use a marketing ploy.
Its probably the gimped version that crashes because they removed some of the songs.
James Price
how is san andreas on PC? i played it on ps2. does it look better? are there fun mods?
Chase Wilson
OP is a console gamer trying to stir shit, like every other people here. ITT console fags who don't know shit about PC gaming not knowing Rockstar always had a gay ass launcher.
Nicholas Mitchell
>Source my stinky steam drones ass Bro nobody gives a fuck about uplay (see recent uplay pass shit to gain some momentum, literally failed), egs makes the most money with anno :) egs is the future because of the cut.
Carter Turner
it looks worse on PC, you have to mod it to make it look like it did on PS2
Henry Collins
I'm so tired of this shit. I've already got 4 fucking launchers on my computer. I'm going to need a fucking launcher for the launchers just to keep everything in one place.
Tyler Morales
>On PC voluntarily giving up the 30% for someone who doesnt even provide the hardware to run it is insane.
You're paying the 30% to get games on a store front customers will actually buy shit from. I don't fucking trust Uplay so the last time I gave a shit about a Ubisoft game, I pirated it.
there are so many launchers now that I have given up on refusing to use them, it's a losing battle and it's only going to get worse so you may as well just get used to it and accept it
Mason Barnes
can anyone confirm this? i don't know if this is a joke, an exaggeration or true.
Asher Russell
the PC version lacks the PS2 diarrhea motion blur. whether that's a plus or not is up to you. you can mod it back in if you want.
Chase Brooks
t. corporate shill
Aaron Parker
IT'S CALLED THE HIGH SEAS.
Josiah Wilson
>Ready for round two of even more Steam drones being buttblasted? I couldn't give a shit about it being on their own launcher as long as its not epic exclusive. It atleast guarantees I will be able to purchase RDR2 without needing epic.
Adrian Perry
Plus PC missing some props and buildings.
Luke Evans
It's been around for years now yeah. Atleast since MP3 and LA Noire.
Jordan Nelson
And moon phases
Matthew Campbell
>Windows >open source get out pajeet
Robert Myers
Okay, this is getting a bit out of hand.
I had Steam to begin with. Then I installed LaunchBox for my emulator games. I had no problem with this.
But then I got two free games with my Ryzen cpu. Great! Had to install Epic Games Launcher for World War Z and Uplay for Division 2.
I have to log into Rockstar to play GTA5...even though I have to get it through Steam. So have to wait while Steam updates...then Rockstar app....then the game itself.
This is how it is for Epic app and Uplay (Uplay keeps wanting my phone number).
I have to have a password manager to to keep track of all the info from Uplay, Rockstar, Steam, Epic, Blizzard, Humble Bundle, Greenman Gaming, and so on.
All this to play games I legally bought. You know, I hate to say this, but console and pirates may have a point. Who knows what all these browsers have access in fucking Windows (the OS is literally riddled with privacy issues by itself). Just because I play games doesn't mean I don't have a fucking life. I just want get on, play, and move the fuck on without it being a project.
Cooper Sullivan
you mean the current cut that tim has said isn't sustainable and are only doing so they can look like the good guys until they no longer need to?
The way I heard it, they botched some shaders and lighting while porting the game on PC. So, yeah, the pc version sort of looks worse.
Ryder Nelson
It's fine for me since epic was the only one I was ever opposed to anyway, I am happy to use the others
Brayden Watson
I avoid Epic, but I'm cool with Rockstar making RDR2 exclusive to it. It's their game after all.
Ethan Rogers
As long as it isn't Epic. Though I am getting increasingly pissed that these devs/publishers are making the Steam versions of their games launch their launcher as well.
Jaxon Lee
Can't wait to pi-- Oh wait, R* doesn't make anything worth playing.
Xavier Morales
where's the mac version
Jose Williams
No GOG, no buy. Simple as that.
Grayson Fisher
That's why you should be going to GOG for DRM free games with no launchers.
Adrian Cooper
I already use GOG you knob but using it won't make a lick of difference to these bigger devs.
David Gutierrez
jajajajajajajaja
Jayden Moore
Hopefully they add GTA IV, fuck that old DRM bullshit your gotta do to install currently
Matthew Hill
Steam gives me regional prices for my shitland at least.
Can I import games I already own on Steam to their launcher?
James Myers
So why is the current PC version of SA so shit anyway? I understand why they needed to remove music but they made everything else worse for some reason
Asher Cox
Is keyboard + mouse still the way to place San Andreas on PC? I tried using a controller a long time ago and some missions were unplayable.
>RDR2 Nothing of value was lost. Call me when RDR1 gets jailed
Michael Smith
All they do is shill gta online. all that money and nothing to show for it.
Angel Rodriguez
they have had the launcher, but wasnt it just the social club garbage? it sounds like this is adding a store front type deal.
Alexander Perez
Pc trannies are already confused to no return by 2 launchers. How will those kiddies be able to handle 3?
Jaxson Peterson
I mean, Bethesda and MechWarrior (eesh) have their own. I don't see what makes this special. More companies should do this if their name is that household.
one may call him a freak, eunuch, mentally ill, dilator, it all runs of him like water off a raincoat. But call him a tranny and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: 'I've been found out.'"
Jason Evans
I called you tranny first
Jaxon Rodriguez
Seething
Nicholas White
Let me repeat it. NO GOG, NO BUY!
David Reyes
You need SA Downgrader, which actually improves the game and restores cut out songs
Luke Campbell
>there exist people who actually want to play rdr2
People could sell games on their own website for 100% of the cut. Or on Discord store for 90% cut. Or negotiate the same cut with Steam like big enough publishers do. Keep pretending EGS isn't all just about the bribe money
WONT SOMEBODY JUST PLEASE FOR A MOMENT THINK OF THE CORPORATIONS!?!?
Luke Bennett
>I don't fucking trust uplay
How does it feel being a modern believer in magic and witchcraft? This inherent distrust for the official digital storefronts of publicly traded big dick real-world corporations with headquarters you can drive up to and enter just blows my mind. You act like they're all fronted by some Yugoslavian kid in his basement somewhere and you have to download them from his .tk website, like holy shit dude you're not going to lose a kidney if you download this stupid .exe. In many cases these are literally the only possible legal avenue for them to sell a product that cost MILLIONS of dollars to produce and market, they can't afford to fuck this up. When I see posts like yours it just reminds me that no matter how far we advance as a species we will always be superstitious.
daily reminder it literally was epic shills trying to hide the fact that every store and consoles still use 70/30 split
Luis Gray
Gaben has always understood that piracy is a convenience issue, not a pricing one. Steam was successful because of the convenience it provided. We are returning to the days of icons cluttering up everything, just as old CDs used to require it's desktop space to launch now we will have to contend with 10 different launchers in their place.
William Thompson
nigga this launcher is for their games only, they're not going to pay for exclusivity deals left and right like epic does, everybody is fine with this if anything, you're the only one who lost here because this confirms if rdr2 releases it won't be epic exclusive
Epic is a footnote when it comes to Ubisoft's titles. Everyone started using Uplay exclusively once they stopped releasing on Steam. Hell you still have to use their launcher even if you buy the game on Epic so what's the point?
The only reason people can and will complain about this launcher is when it sucks just like origin just like uplay just like windows live for games and any other forced launcher to play 1 game.
Henry Martin
GTA5 still rakes in more than modern new releases. That kind of money makes a company complacent, development is too hard.
GTASA is the first game in the series that I've ever played and even though I just started it tonight, I'm already enjoying it.
I ain't touching the updated version with the cut music, though. I got the 1.0 version from that spic site someone posted in another thread and so far it seems legit.
Nathaniel Wood
r* already had a client, I dl'd GTA5 with it. Also, what's stopping them from pulling a Ubishit and having their shitty launcher on top of another storefront? This is getting tiresome.
Jacob Evans
steam is in a much better position than netflix. its by far the best store and platform.
Christopher Martinez
yeah, only if you're playing shitty single player games in 2019.
well rip GTA V, your loading screens won't be missed.
Nicholas Fisher
It's incredible, really. Ubisoft managed to weaponize everyone's dislike of Epic and not only take their money, but generate higher revenue for themselves - all while increasing their own userbase on Uplay. It's disgusting how calculated this powerplay was, but I can't help but be fascinated by its cunning.
Jacob Sanders
>San Andreas Really? A 15-year-old game? That’s the best they can do?
Benjamin Mitchell
B-But it’s for free!
Adrian Davis
>a launcher to use a game thats fucked thanks to music rights worst game to pick no one wants a free gutted gta sa besides BR
if they're releasing a launcher for PC they have to be porting Red Dead right? what other reason would they have for releasing a games launcher for a 6 year old game?
rockstar always had a launcher, the physical copies of gtav needed their social club to activate not steam this is renamed, revamped launcher is probably for something big like rdr2 or take 2 just simply want to use it for their future games like activision does with battle net
Blake Miller
Do you think silentpatch will work with this version?
Joshua Murphy
Can this GTA:SA even be modded?
Grayson Barnes
>Netflix comes out >Everyone makes tons of money thanks to this simple, one launcher, clean service >Companies get jealous and greedy >Now there are 16 launchers to manage >Everyone goes back to pirating everything that isn't on Netflix
Now repeat that but for the PC, Steam being Netflix.
Benjamin Young
Good luck pirating when DRM's are only getting stronger and stronger.
Jaxon James
DRM will never last more than a month for games people actually care about, I'm fine with waiting.
Julian Robinson
To look on the bright side, This shows they are dedicated to the PC platform, As if we didn't know already.
Zachary Baker
Anno 1800 would like to have a word with you.
Andrew Ross
Maybe now they won't delay their games for PC
Lucas Hall
This shits getting ridiculous. It's just like the new stream fad; netflix, hulu, amazon, disney+ etc. etc.
The only difference is that normalfags aren't cucks like video game faggots and only pay for one. The stream market is already crashing, yet video game launcher are still going strong.
Nathaniel Martin
JUST BRINGE US RDR2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I DONT CARE ABOUT ANOTHER LAUNCHER!!! JUST RDR2
Juan Robinson
Why do I have to sacrifice money from MY product that I slaved over purely for your convenience? This is why no one likes gamers you faggots only think about yourselves never about the people who spent years, literally YEARS of their life for your entertainment.
Chase Bennett
Who the fuck besides paid shills and brain dead whales think epic is doing a good thing?
Grayson Moore
>purely for your convenience? You made it for money, You fucking nigger
Cooper Lopez
anyone have a link to this?
Lucas Taylor
oh boy it's the version where they removed a large chunk of the music due to copyright expiring oh lord please shit in my mouth Rockstar mm yes so fresh and warm
Owen Robinson
>Here, we'll give you the butchered version of SA that had the songs removed
Tyler Carter
>Why do I have to sacrifice money from MY product that I slaved over purely for your convenience? Because I'm the customer, fuckface.
Oh no! You gotta spend a whole second of your life to open the launcher once for your games! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Jeremiah Nguyen
Yes good goy let the cooperations access your personal information.
James Peterson
Assuming you're an actual gamedev, this is how every single industry works. If you abandon ease of purchase and convenience for the consumer, you end up destroying profit margins.
>Netflix starts digital streaming >Netflix dominates the market >Reports of movie and TV show piracy plummet >Competitors start introducing similar services with "exclusives" >Reports of piracy start increasing again
These are normies doing the exact same thing. Nobody wants six services that do the same shit.
Nolan Torres
Ah of course it's another Jewish conspiracy I should've known! The Jews wants us to have fun killing hookers so the white race will end IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!
Mods, ban this clown.
Mason Edwards
does it have multiplayer?
Ian Price
it's a worse version with cut music of a bad version of the game the game is also trash and ancient, not fun to play and the gameplay and shooting itself completely sucks
if you download this launcher you won't be able to play gtav and other stuff from just steam and through social club, it cancels them out i-i-it's a bug! you also can't launch gtav offline i-it-it-it's a bug!
No your not you whiny bitch. I don't want people like you buying my game.
Gabriel Carter
And that's why your shitty indie game is going to flop.
Jaxon Hernandez
>install launcher >it detects my GTA V installed >move game's folder to Rockstar Launcher folder >proceeds to fuck up the entire directory the game is installed to (even non-game files), messing up with all my files and folders and placing them in random folders >have to manually recover everything >launch GTA V >it doesn't work >remove every GTA V file and download it again
Thanks, so practical.
Andrew Sanchez
Your pic pretty much affirm the suggestion that 12% is not enough. 5% gross profit is not a good sustainable income for any company in the world.
Also if you look closely he specifically stated that 'store's transaction economics' and not Epic company as a whole.
Tyler Evans
actually i'm ok with this launcher. Its not like Rockstar is paying other companies to make their games exclusive to their launcher. Its just Rockstar doing it with their own games.
Samuel Bell
Steam needs to fall
Parker Flores
The difference is I need to pay for each netflix competitor Game launchers are free. Still not downloading epic though winnie the pooh can go fuck himself
Carson Scott
>Dude, if you use our launcher you'll get a free game(s) that you already have NOBODY WANTS TO USE YOUR SHITTY LAUNCHER FOR A FREE FUCKING GAME. GIVE US ACTUAL REASONS TO USE YOUR LAUNCHER. SELL GAMES FOR CHEAPER. GIVE US FEATURES OTHER PEOPLE DON'T HAVE. NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT A TEN YEAR OLD GAME FOR FREE
Adrian Wright
>make a better offer >dude wtf everyone agreed with the 30%, you can't do that Why are steam drones like this?
Jackson Fisher
Since when do you need to pay to download Netflix/Amazon/Whatever?
Isaiah Cox
>Get everybody else's hopes up with an unsustainable split >Admit that you won't be able to maintain it and you're going to have to cut the bullshit sooner or later once the Fortnite money runs dry >NOOOOO STEAM IS ROBBING PEOPLE WITH THE INDUSTRY STANDARD SET BY PUBLISHERS AND BRICK AND MORTAR STORES BEFORE I WAS EVEN BORN!
>5% of gross profit out of 10 billion market is not sustainable income for any company in the world
kek
Daniel Roberts
>another jank piece of shit launcher I might as well pirate everything now good god. All of these niggers are trying to make their own retarded service. >microsoft store >uplay >epic games launcher >battle.net >steam >gog galaxy >twitch.tv >rockstar social club 2.0 >every little faggot korean MMO with their own shit launcher I'm fucking sick of it. I'm just going to start a god damn seedbox at this point and just pirate everything. I'm sick of keeping track of whatever little retarded platform cocksucker #2553 ltd. wants to put their product on. This isn't limited to video games either. >Amazon prime >Hulu >Netflix >Disney's bullshit I think even CBS has one Thank fuck movies and TV shows are so much easier to pirate.
>tried to play gta 5 yesterday >new launcher lmao >installed the new launcher >Rockstar is incompetent as usual and broke the game for 90% of pc players >the 10% or so remaining who can play are somehow playing an older version of the game, so old in fact that insurance payouts for destroying player vehicles are a thing again Boy I sure hope some of the old school money glitches work too
what else do you want? Is it that hard for you to install programs on a computer?
Andrew Ward
Kek by excluding IV they're admitting the PC was pure dogshit
Jackson Lopez
It's pretty at 4k
Levi Howard
You know, the only fixed cost of this shit is servers,customer support and a dozen of programing monkeys. All of this is negligible in comparison to transaction fees that are variable. Additionaly when we talk about epic specifically servers are also variable because they use AWS.
Basically this cost of this shit is based around amount of customers so i can't argue that 5% is not feasible. However they need to implement variable cut for unusual transactions that exceed normal transaction fees. While it's a problem in poor countries only it's still a problem that hurt customers
Nicholas Morgan
>no mac support Yikes
Adam Evans
>TPB version is not censored, unlike the one on the launcher. I'm assuming you mean the one in the launcher has hot coffee removed, but good luck with finding a true copy of SA 1.0 on PB. Its all flooded with newer versions that are half assed downgraded and repacked. I had to scale obscure sites to finally find true 1.0 with actual OEM R* installer.
Aaron Sullivan
Why do Steamcucks act like competition is a hatecrime
Its better for you, tge consumer, Steam isnt your friend you drones
Hudson Flores
Like, you have 0 advertisement from doing that. You won't be able to support transaction all over the world unless you are a big company. You won't be able to implement regional pricing withouth fucking it up because it's not easy.
It's not impossible to do, but you need to be AAA company to do that shit.
Andrew Baker
>GTA SA with butchered soundtrack No, thanks. Though iirc, you can put your own songs into the game
Wyatt Phillips
PC gayming is dead AYYLMAO. Everything that made it superior to cuntsoles is being systematically destroyed because epic faggots and edgy steam haters are too busy sucking their own dicks to notice. Congratulations, you played yourselves, I hate you all.
James Bell
they are subscriptions
Owen Martinez
>he trusts steam instead
Cameron Young
>he trust people milking his money while doing nothing instead of people that make his vidya
Austin Morgan
Has a single exclusive come out for PC all 2019? Or the year before that, or the year before that?
Colton Kelly
>However, if a Red Dead Redemption 2 port for PC were to come out, releasing it on the Rockstar Games Launcher would be a good way for the developers to keep 100% of the profits from the sales
you can bet this is exactly why they are doing this and will be responsible for most of its downloads
Dylan Roberts
PC gets shitloads of exclusives and entire exclusive genres. Just that no single game is held up as 'the chosen one' that everybody needs to shill constantly to justify the platform
Jayden Bailey
probably still doesn't work properly on modern OS´s without patching and tweaking it
Carter Myers
>graphics >mouse control >not paying to play online
no no but im going to go buy a console cause i have to install a few programs yup
Hunter Edwards
I might go pick this up just for the free game. Wha ta re the conditions, do you have to buy another game? Is it the remastered version?
Jeremiah Hill
>10 years ago >"PC is the best, there's no worries about exclusivity on there" what went wrong, bros
>get hopes up >admit words >still make a better offer >"basedjack crying lol you epic shills are like this!" Why are steamdrones like this?
Josiah Diaz
>downloading a launcher is the same as buying a different console ok
Parker Lee
nothing has changed
Thomas Miller
test
Cooper Myers
There are no exclusives on pc. It's just steamdrones sperging out
Aaron Perez
>i love china bad What's wrong with loving China?
Luke Cruz
>pirating loads of big games for free while Tim Sweeney pays the developers for me
Doesn't look like anything's going wrong to me
Carson Phillips
it must be the gay no music version afaik only the old disc versions are the good ones.
Benjamin Carter
Lmao, Steam and GOG already have such a large library of games on sale so often that I as a consumer can wait out anybody that wants to peddle a shitty launcher,
William Rodriguez
There are three options >Piratefag that belive pirating is moral >Buyfag that belive pirating is immoral >Simply a faggot that follows his favorie corporation
Benjamin Rivera
It is
Benjamin Rogers
Except that's objectively fucking wrong moron and the reason is steam takes THIRTY percent of the profit.
Imagine how fucking stupid it is to lose 30% of your profit to Valve, then lose another 30% to tax. Its moronic to use Steam ever.
Parker Miller
Launcher also stops GTA V from being played without an internet connection.
Why are all these publishers literal cocksucking Jews?
Cameron Barnes
>Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft spend hundreds of millions to create their platforms both physically and for marketing >Valve have a few servers they host their shitty platform on Yeah exactly the same bro high five
Cameron Reyes
Fuck epic, they are greedy
Gavin Phillips
Except Steam has a few features that sometimes make its version of the game worth the price. It's nice to have a built in workshop for mods and to have an overlay so I can chat to my friends while Im playing. If that is worth the cost then I'll buy it.
EGS offers literally nothing over just pirating, and told me that my email was now compromised after I used their shit for the Unreal Tournament Alpha
Jaxon Garcia
I don't care, I'd rather pay a premium and have less bloatware installed, if a game isn't on steam I pirate it, plain and simple.
Nathaniel Martin
All distribution platforms are greedy, You dont fucking need to take 30% or 12%
Cameron Rivera
>steam takes THIRTY percent of the profit
I love this new push by shills to make the industry standard cut some kind of scandal out of nowhere. Yet it only ever applies to Steam and not consoles etc
Charles Williams
Seething
Grayson Bennett
See
Asher Lewis
>people dont realize that something is wrong until competition comes along Welcome to capitalism. Epic have a better product than Valve and making your own distribution platform is better than Valve or Epic.
Blake Ward
What the fuck are you talking about?Console are currently sold with no profit or loss, my friend with deep understanding of the situation. Money comes from royaltes
Jaxson Smith
Transaction fees alone are 5%. 10% is bare minimum to make any profit out of this, and it would only work if you had economy of scale at the level of steam
Jacob Allen
Pulled out of your ass
Jeremiah Gonzalez
1.) Nobody gives a shit how much it cost them to set up their stores in the first place. That's not something anybody factors in. 2.) It's laughable to think that Sony and Microsoft are paying for marketing for the vast majority of games
Kayden Nelson
PS4 was making $20 on each sold during the beginning. The only console sony lost money on was the ps3. Just for reference sony has sold 100million consoles you multiply that by 20.
Easton Barnes
>1.) Nobody gives a shit how much it cost them to set up their stores in the first place. That's not something anybody factors in. Its obviously is because developers are a-okay with paying for access to xbone and PS4 but are setting up their own stores on PC
Dumb fuck you just sunk your own argument. Have a nice day.
Brody Miller
>competition Consumer doesn't care if publisher gets 70% or 88%. People who you are trying to convince that steam is bad literally don't care about the argument you are making.
William Jackson
>Epic have a better product than Valve
Except they obviously don't. Games companies could release on Itchio and Discord store and take 90% cut. The only reason anyone is using Epic is for the upfront cash payment, which doesn't really constitute a 'product'
Kayden Parker
GoG will be dead soon because of other storefronts like epic
Anthony Anderson
>muh jews Kys
Wyatt Ramirez
>Consumer doesn't care >is posting in a thread where people are caring about what percentage is taken lol
Andrew Flores
so i download the game from steam and crack it simple
Adam Nelson
People who claim that they care in this thread are paid shills.
Isaiah Green
>the fact you can take more than 70% if you want to do it yourself suddenly makes the 30% unreasonable
lol
James Baker
>Consumer doesn't care if publisher gets 70% or 88% Except the more money a developer gets the more money they spend on their games instead of Valve sitting on their fat asses doing LITERALLY nothing to earn it.
Fuck you 30% is too much end of discussion.
>more and more games moving to epic or leaving both and making their own platforms Too bad facts were not on your side
Austin Perry
>Except the more money a developer gets >developer gets Publisher gets. And publisher puts it into its fat pockets. Developer is not profiting from this.
Andrew Walker
the opposite
James Thompson
30% is too little. Should be 70. Fuck devs and fuck publishers.
James Williams
>implying I'm going to install ANOTHER FUCKING LAUNCHER I've had San Andreas for free all along - on the Pirate Bay.
Logan Taylor
This is not how this works you faggot, unless publisher is not a publisher but the owner of the whole studio and publisher at the same time.
Luis Jenkins
>If people want to play your game they'll install another launcher. bethesda thought this too but we saw what happened by the time rage 2 came out
Levi Watson
to be quite honest, this is what i felt when i wanted to log in to gta online last night.
For years i haven't bought any Ubisoft,EA,Blizzard and all the fagass rest who use launchers. kinda gave rockstar a pass because their launcher was less bothersome up until this point.
Fuck everybody. Will be playing indies and games from devs that actually that care for their games and refuse to cut deals with kike publishers.
James Stewart
dev teams get paid upfront and sometimes they get royalties but the bulk of the profits go to publishers
Ayden Lee
And why are Ubisoft and Bethesda still putting Far Cry 5, Ass Creed Odyssey and Rage 2 on Steam? Almost like their launchers are unprofitable garbage but it's way too embarassing to back down and close them
Gabriel Moore
>masterrace More like master inconvenience
Jonathan Myers
Source:your imagination about the world
Jose Lewis
i see literally no harm in buying a game and then cracking it so you dont have to download pesky launchers
Connor James
its better than having 3 machines to play 2 games
Ryan Sanchez
He says while imagining buying games magically makes the devs wealthier
Jaxon Perry
man you are stupid look at how wealthy companies like ea and activision are as opposed to the long list of dead dev teams who were under them you must be some kind of consolefag to not understand how this shit works
Ian Gonzalez
anno is irrelevant since you can get it indefinitely for $1 (or less outside of murica) via familyshare
Daniel Roberts
dont care. they can release their own games on their own launcher. just like steam does.
Jason Lopez
All I see is PC growing like crazy. All these companies can now safely build their own launchers and release their games independently on PC. It's both a bad thing and a good thing.
Carson Hughes
>Share Percentages
The more effort and cost required from the publisher, the larger of a percentage they’ll ask for. Especially in the case of lending money, publishers will usually have a higher rev-share percentage they receive pre-recoupment, and then drop down to a more standard rate after that. The rev-share amount may be different per each platform, for instance if a publisher handles all the porting costs and management for Nintendo Switch – they may receive a larger percentage on that platform. akuparagames.com/2018/07/30/publishing-101-should-you-partner-with-a-game-publisher/
Publisher operates at a cut your absolute fucking faggots.
Aaron Clark
They've had the store front since GTAV dude. Heck, maybe even since Max Payne 3.
Wyatt Reyes
i dont believe that blizzard has been getting £10 per customer and their games have only gotten worse over time, less content and more PLEASE BUY OUR STORE MOUUUUUUUNTS they have their own launcher as well so no 30% shenanigans there
Jaxson Robinson
PC PIRATES ALWAYS WIN BAYBAY!!!!
Alexander Clark
>more launchers >dead platform
I don't get it. That's like seeing more movie theaters open and saying that movies are dead.
Adrian Bell
I stopped pirating shit a long time ago when I started working and could just buy games. Starting to look like it's back to piracy. Fuck them I'm not installing a bunch of proprietary shit on my computer. Fuck them.
Jonathan Murphy
Does San Andreas have controller support?
Jackson Diaz
Rockstar has always had its own launcher with Social Club, it's just that they didn't force you to use it.
Robert Adams
It was a piece of garbage and I still don't understand why they called it "social club". What kind of club is this? How is it social? I never socialized with anyone.
Nathaniel Baker
All we hear is: we console bros are still r-relevant gaga, always relevant gugu
Ethan Ward
>literally YEARS of their life for your entertainment. Are you releasing your game for free?
Nathaniel Turner
its more like more chemical plants showing up and dumping toxic waste all over your nice countryside
Ian Lewis
No it isn't.
Jason Bell
To be honest. I don't really care anymore.
I wish Sega release their own platform. The more the merrier.
>dlsite No self respecting jap companies will ever consider releasing their games on that han gure platform.
Dylan Diaz
it is, enjoy your subscriptions and 10 launchers
Jordan Russell
>Ready for round two of even more Steam drones being buttblasted?
It's NOT about Steam you megaretard. It's about the shit that's also currently happening with paid monthly bullshit of movies. It's the exact same bullshit.
Chase Flores
Launchers are free, retard. I can have 100 installed without any issue.
Hudson Edwards
HAHAHHA
I CAN'T WAIT FOR RDR2 AND GTA 6 TO NOT EVEN LAUNCH IF IT DETECTS ANY FILE MODIFICATION
>game series gets popular and last so long due to modding >Rockstar and T2 take steps to fully eliminate modding from their games
I can see it now. They want full and total control over the game files on the users PC and Steam won't cut it for that.
this new launcher sucks dick and I still own the original dvd so this bribe doesnt help me. I doubt they updated this because of gta online, that has been running for 4 years already, so yeah that might be true.
Jason Garcia
Meh. I'm just gonna keep doing what i normally do. Buy most of my shit from smaller online stores and pirate what I can't or dont want to buy. It's pretty simple and time tested, user
Landon Garcia
>giving money to russians and pajeets
David Cooper
Better than giving it to steam
Joseph Cox
not really
Liam Rodriguez
The opposite you retard. If anything, this is what happens when the PC is too popular.
I wonder if the over saturated market or launchers will be similar to streaming sites, where customers are driven to privacy again because they be bothered will all the bloat.
Ryan Reed
I don't want to support a company that's basically got a stranglehold on PC gaming. If it weren't for steam we likely wouldn't see as many publisher storefronts popping up.
Isaiah Ross
I don't know about all that, but I'm ready to replay GTA:SA
Asher Morales
RDR 2 PC NOW
Christopher Wilson
PC cucks were always cucked. Imagine unironically thinking consoles are for peasants when you don't even own a physical copy of the game LOL
no someone else would have done it anyway and we would be in about the same place
Michael Thompson
I already downloaded it because it's better than the fucking Epic Store already
Asher Lewis
>aiming with a controller >ever
Thomas Sullivan
don't download or install this the game is also the bad cut version and it's a really shitty game either way you won't be able to launch and play gtav, max payne 3 etc from steam and rockstar social club like you already did, you will have to do it from this extra launcher also won't be able to play them offline
Caleb Jones
GoG and Steam are all I need or want. Only exception was Anno 1800 on Ubishits DRM client
I'm not really interested in RDR2 any more, especially after how awful and greedy GTA5's multiplayer mode turned out.
Benjamin Smith
Imagine being so much of a virgin that you need to stock videogames in your house or even own a game specific device.
Christopher Long
giving away some buggy unpatched game that fans have to fix with third-party mods to play it the way it was supposed to be is pretty insulting. it just shows how little they care.
Jordan Baker
>buying shit you technically do not own Imagine being this cucked
Levi Gray
so rockstar just said we are lucky they just us keep our steam copies of their game ssince we are a bunch of filthy pirates
Justin Jenkins
You can play Civ and Astral Chain on the PS4?
Daniel Brooks
>keep 100% of the profits Huh, I guess servers, their maintenance, customer support, billing and security are all free.
Nicholas Adams
Living in terror that corporations will take away your videogames seems more cucked to me.
Leo Watson
>buying shit bold assumption
Cameron Gomez
chinese people live in china
Levi Diaz
If Steam would have just lowered their cut none of this would have happened. Fuckin greedy Valve
Chase Baker
some things you don't pay with money the price of having another botnet launcher on my PC is extremely high, higher than purchasing GTA SA for full price
Leo Bennett
Haven't they had the Social Club thing for a while though? What's the big deal lol.
Also >''people'' actually thought RDR2 will be an epic store exclusive there's no amount of bribe money sweeney can pull out of his arsehole that is gonna beat the profit RDR2 PC port is gonna make
Joshua Butler
this
Juan Rodriguez
>haven't tried GTA V in years >install because hey lets check out the launcher aswell >install launcher, ok cool >run GTA v >curious what my online character's status is >spend 10 min trying to log on >restart 3 times >get finally in after 7 minutes >5 minute casino trailer plays >finally in >im infront of the casino somehow and not in apartment as usual >i step forward a couple steps >im teleported to the entrance and a cutscene plays >its a cutscene that advertises the casino >5 minutes later finally the unskippable cutscene ends and i leave casino >killed outside by godmode hacker camping casino >finally get away from the area >lambasted on my phone about stupid fucking shit they want me to buy >Alt + F4
Steam's cut is lower than any physical store though (which is the eco space steam went into), and they had custom share deals with big publishers. Evidently it wasn't enough, because why would anyone publisher go on steam when there's someone on the other side of the street saying "I'll guarantee you 500000 sales if you're on my store"
Landon Williams
Don't underestimate Timmy boy ever again.
Logan Parker
Who cares about physical space when it comes to PC games? Nobody anymore, so the fact that Valve charges less than that is irrelevant.
Fact is, the current climate pushes towards charging less and focusing more on volume, regardless of if that is an overall good or bad thing.
Jacob Fisher
Obviously publishers do, otherwise they wouldn't be charging you physical prices for digital releases. The margins of profit went up so significantly for publishers when steam came along that it was insane. They cut all the distribution costs and kept charging the same (in a lot of cases actually increased prices).
Julian Scott
I already hit that point a couple years ago before EGS launched.
I will never install another launcher beyond what I have (Steam, Origin, Uplay). If your game isn't on these, it's not getting purchased. You were late to the show and you missed out, too bad, so sad. I can find plenty of other games to play.
Josiah Cooper
why would steam users be mad? this isn't the same thing as another company paying for exclusivity
Xavier Clark
>"why do I have to spend 5 seconds installing all these free launches to play my videogames?"
Same. I fucking hate that I got coerced into installing Ushit, though. At least they gave me World in Conflict for free.
Leo Anderson
i found the original HOODLUM version on rutracker very easily
William Reed
This topic is always so amusingly retarded. Every big publisher who invests big time in this industry would be retarded not doing their own thing for obvious reasons.
My Steam account is from the Steam launch and boy it was hated by the community for almost a decade. (2003 til 2009)
Also, the most popular PC games were never on Steam like The Sims, LoL, World of Tanks, Blizzard games etc.
Matthew Murphy
Why does the fucking game crash shortly after starting up now? Its not even FUCKING PLAYABLE now
John Sanchez
Take your meds steamie
Henry Myers
Steams monopoly is finally breaking HAHAHA
Justin Allen
A free game, that can't be modded or played offline.