Have any of you guys played the new update for Risk of Rain 2 yet?

>Those absolutely retarded challenges for skills that aren't even worth it
What the fuck was hotpoo thinking?

playing commando feels like shit now

join niggas
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Unlock more characters

I just unlocked Loader so I have all of them
usually getting to monsoon stage 9 or 10 would be easy even with mediocre items in the first couple levels but now it feels much more difficult.

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>new commando M2 does 8x200% damage twice
>16x200% damage
>focus crystals amp the damage up even more

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anyone got a vid of loader swinging around?

too bad the judgement cut replaces R instead of M2

fuck its 8x200% total so they're each 4x200% im retarded

almost all skills are worth it, except for rex's but it evens out because it's easy to unlock it.

The good side of the regen nerf is that it feels better getting any healing item

Who /ethereal/ here?

Modniggers need not apply.

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loader fucking 1 shots bosses like the old sniper from risk of rain 1

>Loader
>waifubait
You have no idea what that term means.

posting this again since the last thread just died

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Here's my 100% save for the lazy:
pastebin.com/HZeZrb5Z

cringe and bluepilled

New orange, fuck you blazing and malachite shitters.
Also mult chainsaw is metal af.

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the mobile turrets for engineer

fucking holy shit, this changes everything.
>shoots things only 20 feet away from them
>dog shit base damage
>lower health

it feels like a monkeys paw

Thank you very much.

>first fucking loop
>GLACIAL CLAY TEMPLARS
Fucking why. Already had 3 fuel cells on the third stage

it's because of the health regen changes
hotpoo balanced the entire game around it for months and then suddenly made them exclusive to drizzle
Either we're getting the regen back, or monsoon and rainstorm are going to get some heavy nerfs soon

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Just had a Gesture run with this, interesting experience.

>use it
>they debuff me again
why? it should be immunity for a certain time, this shit is worthless.

Supposedly they have double DPS, but that doesn't mean shit when they refuse to hit that far off boss that matters, and spend 90% of the time chasing some wisp fluttering just out of range.

>it's another "2 chests per map and enemiesrarely spawn" run
I really wish monsoon didn't take 20 minutes to pick up the pace

I really don't understand how some anons are having so much trouble with this. It's one thing if it was to cheese multiple stages, but everything in the trials is fixed so you can autistically route out your items and everything

It's a shame that the skill sucks right now though, it needs some kind of buff. A shorter cooldown, a slightly thicker/taller hitbox, just something.

holy shit based

:)

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>Clense all negative effects
Are nearby survivors also affected?

The main thing holding the mobile turrets back is their dogshit AI. Engie needs to be able to force his turrets onto a target by pinging them with middle mouse or something

so which ones are good?

what does commandos alternate look like

>Slowly chugs its way across the map to where you are
>Hits steam
>Flies off into the distance

You're right but the locked items is a curse and a blessing at once. This seed is amazing (Topaz 3d printer) but if you try to get this achievement when the locked items are shit then good luck.

I think the main problem with the skill is that it doesn't scale. Eviscerate is amazing because you deal more and more damage the faster you attack, this ability is locked at 800%. It looks really cool tho.

Why is the game so much harder now? Elites spawning out the ass within the first 10 minutes.

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unlock them and try them out, the good ones are the ones that you think are fun.

I don't think that we are gonna get the regen back to what it was before, but some characters will get their regen buffed no doubt.

loaders is a direct upgrade and I heard both of commandos are good.

even if they do have double the dps, i have never used the piss poor primary attack as much as i needed to with the mobile turrets. The standard gun turrets do more work.

it would be nice if they did their usual firing mechanic, just were mobile. Or flying, FLYING WOULD BE PREFERABLE, but nah, slow derpy crab walking where the pathing can go full retard. i watched one walk off a cliff while targeting ME instead of the wisp bombarding me from half way across the map.

>dog shit ai
oh my god this so very much, playing as engi is true suffering when the ai decides to go take a nap.

So what was that icon with black feathers they teased?

also

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reminder that Loader is FLAT

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>Great/Direct fucking upgrades
Commando, Loader
>Preference/Depends
MUL-T, Huntress, Artificer, Merc, Rex
>Shit
Engie until his turret AI is fixed

I also feel like there are way more elites now, not sure if it the difficulty increase is just the regen nerf

>until his turret AI is fixed
There's a mod that lets you make your minions attack the enemy you ping. When I played engie and the turrets had the inactivity bug I used that mod to fix their bullshit, worked great

Lunar item that replaces your utility skill

>Fade away, becoming intangible and gaining +30% movement speed. Heal for 25% (+25% per stack) of your maximum health. Lasts 3 (+3 per stack) seconds.

I'm not sure user.

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Imo is a good replacement for fruit when malachites start beign common. With a couple gestures and fuelcells you can get the cd to 3 seconds. Considering that it also destroys nearby projectiles it's stronger than it looks. I would consider it mid-high tier with the right build.
t.just had a 12 stage run with it

She has the hips though?
She's literally a pear.
Loader MUST have pound someone this good to produce this muscle daughter of his.

I hope it's a hotfix and not held until next month's update

just post the alternate skins already I need to see if they're worth the trouble

most of them are just alt colors
Merc's turns him into a red oni but it's still basically just a red costume

I'd put huntress into direct upgrades as well
Her arrow rain was pretty shit and now she gets a nuke and the triple dash is fucking amazing, allows for amazing dodging while having short as fuck cooldown

>MUL-T's grenade launcher has two sec cooldown the moment you shoot either one or all four nades
can you actually reduce the cooldown with cd reduction artefact? it looks like fun but having a limit on it really just makes me want to go back to railgun

I got the loader one. Calling it a skin seems generous, it's just a recolor.

How does this interact with the Lunar tonic?

I want her to bench press me

Kek, dumbasses thought her arms were small because they were bended

someone post match id

Also take note that Loader's power arms aren't connected to the exoskeleton. She's carrying those arms.

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mastery achieved
loader is disgustingly strong and will be nerfed due to an "unintended interaction" soon, mark my words

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They're mostly recolors. I think Mercenary is the only one that isn't just a palette swap.

No wonder she's so jacked

Required listening for loader players.

youtube.com/watch?v=lroFpZkZI8c

Commando has a different model as well. Think they're the only two.

Vanilla btw.

Well both are actives so you cant have both at the same time.
Idk if it removes the drug debuff tho, but i'm willing to bet that it does.

>it's been 6 months and they still haven't fixed the Merc collision glitch
What is Hoppo even doing in their office?
Although once they find out it basically nukes vagrants and the alloy boss, they'll nerf it immediately.

I remember reading that post in the last thread.

Commando is actually the one who has a fairly changed model. Mercenary only has the thing on his forehead. Commando has a mask added to his helmet and stuff added to his arms. But all of the models used are pretty much the same base mesh, just with items tacked onto them.

>batting jellies away like beach balls
>swinging 'round titan while it tries to laser
>supermaning into the sky whenever you want
loader is pretty fun

let me guess, it's going to be some shit like being able to charge your charging punch while grappling to an enemy since that's a good source of her disgusting damage

Is the switch version getting the updates on time as well?

no that's 100% an intended part of her kit
it's going to be some item doing too much damage because of her 2700% damage scaling

>no new engi primary
>new replacement for icewall

HOLY SHIT

she's STRONG

Someone post the new Celestine Elites please

Also take not that Loader wears a high cut T-Back. Just look at that whale tail.

anyone hostan

just bought the game

why is loader a girl?
there is nothing feminine about that character model

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Anyone else feel like monsoon has become a bullet sponge hellhole with the spawning change? I'm getting half elites 15-20 minutes in, even seeing quite a few malachites this early. With advancing levels still bumping the difficulty up, rushing through stages is way more punishing than it used to be.

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That's because She's loader's daughter

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I think that it will be beign able to sprint while charging the punch. It doesnt really makes sense and the key press is tricky, but it adds a lot of damage.

because ror1 loader settled down and had a family

monsoon is just 2hard now
commando and mul-t in particular feel unplayable due to both getting fucked early game and getting fucked late game with scaling
no, sprinting while charging is the allowed on all characters (mult, engi, arti)

The very fact we got a good idea what Loader looks in RoR , thanks to RoR2.
They are both jacked as fuck.
Loader punching fucking bosses to death while carrying thousands of pounds of machinery on his back bent to survive off the planet even have more meaning.

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Loader 2 is big cute girl with a russian accent.

Literally the only skills worth it are Engie's walking turrets and Huntress' new ult.

Loader 2 is daughter to Loader1 and you cannot tell me otherwise. It feels right considering his ending he was "rebuilding his life brick by brick".

gimme a quick rundown on new skills

...

read the damn thread instead you lazy fuck

Get to work user, make her curvier, replace pant for skintight take away the muscles, she has her suit for that.
Bigger tits too.

oh

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wow awful taste

>Start a commando monsoon run
>Actually get some alright offensive items
>Use first teleporter around 4-5m mark
>3 overloading stone golems
>die
based retarded devs

Yeah Commando has some new details, Merc also gets a thing in his head

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It doesn't feel like monsoon is trying to be a challenge anymore, just a wall of health where success is determined by how many good damage items you get and how patient you are.
that's why I play with command artifact mods

I hope these skins are an indication we are getting close to easier modding.
Has anyone looked into the code to see where skins are held and processed?

Fuck the health regen nerf.

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Merc gets a little detail on the "jaw" of the helmet as well.

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t. faggot

what does dying 3 fiery deaths give you?

sorry I don't like typical waifu shit #67,849

not sure buy i'm guessing

I'm here and I know how to mod it. It's just a normal Unity game, and Hopoo's done well to keep things well tagged. If Hopoo wanted to make the game moddable, he'd have to invest time into doing that. It's not necessarily a hard thing to do, it'd just take time and might add has potential to add bugs in unpredictable ways if done incorrectly.

I don't even have a computer or a console im just here for memes

>take away the muscles
Only if you give them to Artificer

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More attractive than the tranny "women" that make up 95% of AAA protags.

fucking hell rex's alt secondary is absolutely worthless and costs so much health besides
it's good against large, stationary targets and that isn't what he even struggles against in the first place

No Enforcer
No Buy

haha imagine wrestling with loader...

OMG THESE BASIC KATANA MOVEMENTS ARE BOTH USED IN THESE GAMES!!!!!!!!!

I am kinda waiting for the full release, dont wanna burn myself out before the full game.

how do i play rex

any US West lobbies?

Vergil is like the forefather of bullshit ultra-weeb iaijutsu attacks.

spidermaning as loader is pretty fucking fun

1) wait for a bunch of small enemies to spawn
2) take them to the brap barn by pressing R on them
3) hold down left click and spam right click on whatever the highest priority target is
4) leave the mooks alive so you can brap barn them again when your R is off cooldown
5) use shift if you need to get the hell out of there, i don't bother pushing enemies unless they're malachite wisps

1/4

how does one use this?

cope harder

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>use blood shrine with new regen
>literally never reach full HP before the level is over

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so does the teleporter just not spawn on scorched acres or what
i've been running around on this piece of shit map for 8 minutes now

Please look forward to life leech items nerfed even more.

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Vanilla US east.

would be nice if we got HP packs or something from those destructables littered around the map

>163 gold was deposited into your account

should i bother knocking enemies off cliffs

how does the debuff work

>nerf
>nerf
>every update, nerf
Getting real sick of your shit, Hopoo

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Mercenary abusers BTFO

>Oh no I can't have infinite i-frames and insane HP regen anymore!

if you have monster tooth/infusion they give green/red orbs

well yeah if there's a cliff nearby go for it
it just weakens and slows

>Lights self on fire
>"Heh, sure sucks for Merc MAINS AM I RIGHT"

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I cant access risk of rain mod chan's mega anymore D: not that i expected the mods to work with the new update but i just something i noticed

based, meet redpilled

whats up with these based retards who dont know the game has a ton of mods already

thunderstore.io/

I WANT SPIDER MINES HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DO IT

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>Current Prismatic trial has an Overloading dunestrider as the boss of the second stage
How do people have the second merc R skill without cheating?

Noticed that, figured they were doing it over for the new patch though.

>monster tooth orbs
those things disappear within seconds and require you to be right on top of them to pick them up, and they don't even heal that much.
You're better off with a cautious slug and just running away for a while

kek

This. I am not against the regen nerf, in fact i like it, but if you don't get healing items early on monsoon you are fucked. They need to at least add a way to heal outside items and passive regen, even if it's weak.

people have been posting autism routes for both the last prism trial which started off on the loader map which is how a lot of people cheesed that unlock as well as this prism trial

Just cheat it in man...

but user
i dont know how to

a vacuum item would be neat to suck in green orbs and bandoliers and whatever else drops

>>>>>cheating

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10 man host when?

Are mods even working right now?

>try to play mul-t
>die

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>more "beat 20 stages" challenges
Hopoo I love you but for the love of God I cannot handle these fucking endurance tests
This shit takes too long and is too mentally taxing

literally just play on drizzle

There's a guaranteed BFG in the first level and a turtle broach printer somewhere in the run. Use those to fuck him up.

They should

I've never hacked in anything until this update. I just want to experience all the shitty skills, then wait until next update.

get the preon and play like a bitch maybe?

seriously. I don't know what the fuck to do as him anymore

I did and it still took two hours, and near the end it was fucking grueling

All mods using R2API are broken to at least some degree right now.

Wait they nerfed health regen?
No wonder I keep dying on early on in monsoon, I thought I was just rusty but it did feel off when I didn't get healing items right away.

>it feels good to get monster tooth and have to manually pick up green balls that heal for 5hp
practically every healing item needs major buffs to not feel like they were a waste of money to get

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Loader is really fun but I don't like her late game plan. It's like you can't just casually walk around and slap people, so your entire playstyle just becomes doing hit and runs with shift

according to them the regen values in normal and hard were set to the easy percentage, so they "fixed" it

Oh no you have to stack the items a little to make them good instead of getting 1 white item and expect it to fully heal you.
How awful!

>her

Arti's new ult is fucking amazing, way better than the flamethrower
>great positioning
>huge burst of radial damage
>powerful recon, find everything in seconds
>unlimited fly time
>gets you out of danger instantly
>if you get headstompers, you just keep pogoing off enemies heads and dealing rediclous damage

I read that as BLACKED

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>Put this in front of Achievements in userdata
Enjoy Anons.

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look at her fucking model
also see and

Based

not gonna lie this is based

it literally says its a she on her character description fampai
she's just perflat

>spend 500 gold on a chest a few stages in
>get my tenth monster tooth so I can now dive into a crowd for those WHOPPING 60 health heals
Money well spent.

I'm not home yet to play, is the ass juicy?

If that's the case I guess it's just gonna take some getting used to.
Kinda weird since it only affects the first loop or so since items will eventually do most of the healing, making it much harder to get a run off the ground.

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Loader's got a decent ass, but it's covered by her thick pants.

if you fly too high with artificier's new move it just warps you back to the ground. gay

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>inb4 loader skin is transflag

Why is Commando's grenade so trash

>he's never hit the map ceiling before this
trimping with commando's roll has warp smashed me back into the ground so many times

It was the same with all characters since launch

I had no idea the roll could trigger the superjump, I always did it with Merc's sword spin.

invalid id

Dw its just the original color scheme from the first game.

ezpz
why is the much harder to unlock skill such utter trash tho

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I'm fucking drunk and thats the wrong picture

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WHERE THE FUCK IS ENFORCER. good game tho so far

I'm guessing 10 man user's setup was broken by the update?

play better

All mods got broke from the update, rip that thicc mod.

ah yes, blazing clay templars horde of many, just what the doctor ordered.

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>no fungus for team and self heal (especially now the base regen on hard got nerfed) and for opinion abuse
walking turrets are nice but the utility of fungus can't be understated

Merc uppercut is great. I love launching elites in the air and doing a MvC combo on them.

Same bro. Just makes me not want to bother.

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They ever change it so Engineer's turrets count on his damage page?

Press F to pay respects to Bandit.

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>mfw I just edited my save to unlock all the new shit

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Does standing on top of a boss count as not touching the ground?

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Does engineer not get a skin for monsoon or no?

Pics if you please user?

Nah, its in development(tm)

i think it only counts if you're midair, if you can walk its considered ground
just cheese the geysers senpai

Glad to hear it user. Enjoy yourself you based bastard.

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No, engie is the only character with no skins currently.

Give me his hat next. Have secondary skill kills reduce cooldowns.

an easier solution from another thread

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literally just go to one of the geysers on titanic plains and use your spinning blade move to get back to it before touching the ground. (I used the one in the water area, look as far down as you can and right click just after your model passes the green)

thank you based frogposter
i owe you my life

why shouldnt I edit my save desu

how do I unlock loader?

i wanna play some loader

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us east/south

I ended up using the Celestial portal for me.

kill eyeball boss on new map

>New Aegis and even only 1 Fungus gets them to a super shield
Engineer even better.

Siren's Call, new 4th stage map. Find eggs around the map to shoot, special boss spawns when you kill like 4-5 of them. You know your doing it right when "whirring in the distance" is in the chat log

>whirring in the distance
NOOO I NEED MY ROR2 SWITCH EDITION

there are eggs on the new level, break some of them until a boss spawns then kill it.

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I just used the chrysalis wings in the sorched acres and then let my abilities keep me in the air over the chasms.

2/4

Any cool loader acrobatic videos?

>ROR2 SWITCH EDITION
have you been under a rock because ror2 came out on switch like a month ago

>break all eggs on loop 1
>spend 20 minutes sweeping every last fucking corner with royal capacitor in hopes of finding the last egg
>nothing
>difficulty in loop 2 is significantly further than necessary but bosses are dying so it's cool
>back in the siren stage
>miniboss spawns immediately on entering and some of his fuckboy backup balls are elite
>whittle down about 90% of his 2 million hp pool and die to a tagteam of glacial jelly and blazing elder lemurian that popped up inside my asshole while I was making kiting circles around the stage
FUCK this boss

Does the new boss have a launch up move, because it sent me fucking high into the air

The chargeup move that gives it shields is basically 2-3 gigantic titan fists. so yes they launch

>kill giant mechanical eye
>no achievement
do I have to do something else now? beat the level maybe?

does transcendence work for the huntress rally point delta challenge?

It's probably just me but getting through stages seems to take forever now, i cant even complete a loop. I probably relied too heavily on guillotine before the patch. Oof

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yep

which character? I feel like commando and mul-t are both just death sentences on monsoon right now. The rest of the characters suffer but aren't as hard hit. Loader is simply OP to the point of ridiculousness.

>Loader is simply OP to the point of ridiculousness
shh

how the fuck do I punch things in the air

Anyone else have a bug where the Loader boss keeps losing and regaining health whenever they do the big shockwave attack?
Made it a hell of a lot easier let me tell you.

don't bother using her primary punch while you're going FAST. It slows you down too much to sit around punching things slowly in the air or the ground. just wait and charge up your shift punch. nice that all the proc items scale to 2700% damage too

Look at the thing you want to punch. Then you have a few options
>hold shift
>hold m2 and time m1 to hit it once and let go
>hold m2 and press m1 whenever you get near it without letting go of m2

hold shift and right click, release shift when close.

that health they gain is a shield effect, when they lose health it's just the sheild going away.

Im in Scorched Acres and CANNOT find the teleporter

ive been stuck in this shitty level for 30+ minutes, walked across all terrain possible and opened every chest trying to find this piece of shit

wat do?

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I don't think it's a bug, it's meant to be a shield that only lasts temporarily so it goes away automatically after a few seconds.

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bored

get in for some games

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sometimes its under the ramp

Ah alright. I clearly wasn't paying attention then.

>unlock loader, don't know what to expect
>get bionic commando fisticuffs supreme
Best character

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Commandos actually fun with the new skills, feels like a completely new character, just wish his grenades exploded on contact. I can see why hot poop was worried he and bandit were too similar.

I miss the old mul-t railgun sound

this holy fuck, loader is incredibly fun, it also helps that she has the best ability in the game by far.

Where is the log entry of the new map?

Is there a list of all the new skills and what they do?

her kit is fucking amazing but the shift is going to get nerfed in some way, I absolutely guarantee it. It's too easy to just charge it and run into things being completely safe and mobile AND getting barrier for things you hit along the way, and scaling makes it so the damage is great at all stages of the game.
In return the m1 should be buffed in a way that gives it a little more utility. being able to bounce a bit while in midair doesn't help at all because you're vulnerable as hell while using it.

>Loader is like a living spiderman in RoR2 much more than 1's variation
I think I just nut guys.

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Yeah doing commando. I did a few runs and It got to a point where I was screaming internally. I did play huntress and Merc eventually. They fared a bit better. Just have to see how hotpoo decides to tweak the game i guess

>Loader
>Brainstalks
>throw out 10 pylons every elite kill
>pylons kill more elites
>eventually becomes a laser rave

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it's on top of the crashed ship, on the part closest to the edge

>commando
I cannot even clear the first stage with him anymore. don't worry, you're not alone.

read the thread

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Can I get an edit of any Broly image but with Loader
damn she strong as fuck

>Oh no!?

I honestly think the character needs better baseline defenses. Commando types need Merc and Loader tier defenses, Merc and Loader should have double. The game is do-able on monsoon, but it's basically just a slot machine at this point. It's balanced like shit in monsoon.

ive looked under literally every bridge

i think i have to suicide my character at this point, might be bugged or some shit

109775241053557855
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Quickplay is extra trash today

it's so good that i feel like there's almost no point in pressing buttons other than shift or mouse2, melee is kind of useless, and her ult is fine to throw out for procs i guess but it's hard to notice anything happening from it when you're ramming through enemies at lightspeed for 2700% dmg

F

>and scaling makes it so the damage is great at all stages of the game.
It should be this strong, nothing in the game feels good as you level because nothing keeps up with the scaling unless you supremely luck out with drops, it's shit.

>Loader new skill can grab smaller enemies
I feel like I have some idea what I want to draw
youtube.com/watch?v=df_gyuFlFnI

any advice for the merc prismatic trial challenge? fuck this shit is hard

Kek

Do it

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How are the MUL-T skills?

>Have any of you guys played the new update for Risk of Rain 2 yet?
>playing risk of ,reddit.
fuck off back to your tranny general/discord shill

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has a grenade launcher and a powersaw, way better than railgun but nothing beats the minigun

Explain how to save edit. I only want the skills because I'm too lazy to put that much effort into unlocking them.

that explosion had better be a will o the wisp proc

not bugged youre just bad at finding the tele

>>playing risk of ,reddit.
how new are you?

I want loader to pick me up

>replying to tourists
don't give them (you)s, they value them highly

3/4

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wait loaders a women?

got this on switch and hopped into single player, is it really just go fast fast fast?

feels like I get hounded pretty quick

RoR2 Loader is. She's a big muscly woman.

Steam\userdata\96356144\632360\remote\UserProfiles

find your profile and paste the achievements after

how do i reverse the regen change

trying to host a 10-man
ctrl+alt+~ 'connect 75.83.147.96'
no mods, just trying shit out

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see it's strong at the expense of the rest of her kit besides grapple
i'd rather have it be slightly less good and have a fully functional kit

You DID obliterate on monsoon today, right Yea Forums?
commando's new m2 is the best, btw

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Everybody shoiuld be this strong, you shouldn't have to scrape and luck out to do decent damage. Bad enough you can get one shot by those flying pokemon no matter how strong you are, but dps is flat terrible for most survivors.

what's the downside of phase blink which just looks like normal blink but 3 charges

Can someone post the xml data for all the new items and skills please?

there is no downside. some of the new skills are just direct upgrades

Yeah, as Commando too

...

3/10, still not sure if everythings working

read the thread retard.

Do zoomers even understand that time has been going on before they were born?

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I wish the helmet was better on this skin, also red effects.

Huntress is the best survivor hands down

>grabs mags
youtube.com/watch?v=czTksCF6X8Y

Thanks!
Sorry i just jumped to the bottom of thread

It feels fucking awful, why would they do this.

Man, loader is an illegal amount of fun
Why is melee in this game so good compared to ranged

Torrent when?

Fuck off hot poop you nigger, new regen is terrible and the discord faggots sucking down your turds think difficulty makes their e-peenis bigger. None of the healing items besides the slug are good. They don't scale at all.

Punching alien fags in the face is better than just shooting them.

how do i play loader on monsoon?
i keep getting fucked easily

Humans naturally like using their fists and physical prowess

I did mine in the last seed, but some anons mentioned this seed having a BFG as well as a 3D printer for the barrier item

This update just confirms that the most fun characters would be ported RoR1 characters instead of new shit.
I hope the last two characters are Miner/Acrid

engineer spider mines are vastly superior to the default ones

>Slicing Winds is both the hardest one to get and the worst
Nice.

>charge her charged punch while using M2
>abuse M2 more
>Unlock her alternate M2 since it's a flat upgrade

loader's secondary and utility should be swapped. literally just FIXED the character
also there should be an item that has a chance to apply a bleed based on how much damage you do with the initial hit

Best way to do Commando's 20 levels?

I'm gonna tell you her punches are fucking great, but you need 2 syringies to get em to do the work you need. Her grapple is good, but I wish it had less of a cool down and should swap positions with the rocket punch. The floating shocker is also great but I forget to use it because of teh cooldown.

Scrap barrier+Knuckleboom: You keep swinging you live.
Grapple fist: Tarzan swinging.
Charge Gauntlet: Choo Choo, motherfucker!

And knuckleboom usually lets you keep swinging in midair. Vagrant has never been this easy.

editing xml desu

the commando alt skills are trash

because all the ranged characters have piss poor damage scaling and no defenses or regen.

See, the problem with Acrid is that Acrid is the only RoR1 character that's pretty one-of-a-kind. Like, you can't just say "oh it's another Acrid" like you can with Commando or Loader.
Which means the best way to add him would be to use the implied time bullshit in RoR2 to forcibly rip him into the future.

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I honestly prefer not having teh grapple pul enemies in since I use it to escape a lot.

>start game
>put into prismatic trail
>kicked upon ending
i dont think this style of hosting works yet

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just grapple a wall or big guy to escape then.

Probably helps that she takes absolutely no falling damage whatsoever.

where's all the loadette lewds goddamnit, I must whack the pp to thicc musclegrill

Just grapple a wall, the ground, or use your R to give yourself a grapple point then
Large enemies spawn frequently enough that it's not really a problem

Why the fuck is Loader so fun?

Anyone know what to put into the .xml file for loader?

>complete a prismatic trial as Merc without falling below 100% HP
>transcendence does nothing
>prismatic trials always spawn pure bullshit like overloading worms on the first stage

She looks like a dork, and it's adorable.

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I'm going to unlock Loader and then just save edit the items and skills. Not going to subject myself to that trash.

the last two trials have made it easy as fuck to cheese
note how it says "100% HP". Transcendence damages you to 1 when replacing the barriers. This seed has a BFG and a 3D printer for the barrier item

Same, Chrysalis with 1 fuel cell was enough

I think the grapple is on right click because it's slightly less awkward to hold and release m2 with good timing than shift, and getting backup mags helps your mobility directly.

What are the new enemies?

Flying guys from stage 4 of Risky 1, and a giant spherical drone.

Yeah that would be rough. Regen completely fucked commando

>QA played exclusively on drizzle and thus never found the discrepancy between the regens
Fucking INCREDIBLE

Artificer feels a lot safer to play as now that you can fly as her

I feel like now it's too skewed in the opposite direction. Should be 250% for Drizzle, 200% for Rain and 150% for Monsoon. Current regen feels like jack shit.

>never getting the drone call in equipment
>Fireworks always spawn the new special boss on Sirens Call so it obliterates my fucking drones
>no fuel cells to blow up the boss and no bungus ever

Mind you, Rainstorm is explicitly stated to be the way the game is meant to be played. Monsoon should be nuts.

The skill sucks anyways.

I saw someone else had issues, but I started over and over and it didn't take me to a prismatic trial.

Attempting ten man Risky 2, no mods. CTRL+alt+~, connect 47.147.73.195

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even rainstorm is pretty awful for survivability if you don't get any straight regeneration items.

2/10

I find it funny that commando started off as the character with a boring dogshit early game and amazing late game and progressively got worse every patch to the point where he is now practically unplayable

3/10

bruh they didn't do shit to commando, he was garbage from the start

Vergil DLC looking really weird bros

You shittin' me? His new abilities are pretty great.

I really like how monsoon is now. It's actually stressful, and you have to be way more careful. It's a proper challenge now, as it should be.

5/10

>what is the sticky nerf
commando was proc KING, once you got the ball rolling his attack speed went through the roof
now attack items are far too rare thanks to typed chests and a saturated pool and the regen rollback was the nail in the coffin
I can't even beat the first stage as commando anymore, how am I going to even try them out

>Complete Prismatic Trial as Mercenary
>Without taking damage

Oh fuck off

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>all these changes
I fucking knew something was up when i played it earlier, thanks for confirming my suspicions

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He literally got buffed this patch, the fuck are you on about.

>suppressive fire buff
it's okay but there aren't enough attack items to make a difference until like 2+ loops
>new abilities
unavailable
regen change completely fucked him

Confirmed WORKING. Other user fucked something up. Unfortunately closed right now.

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git gud. The last two trials have been autistically mapped with step by step guides on the damn thing too
>Challenge is to stay at 100% HP as Merc
>Barriers don't count as health
>There's a fucking barrier item in a 3D printer in this seed

But does loader have abs underneath her suit?

PC crashed, will come back up in a bit

It didn't work for me. That sucked.

>regen change completely fucked him
The regen change affects all the characters the same. I don't see how it could be the "nail in the coffin" for any character in particular.

No I'm playing on ps4 cause I don't have a pc. Lol.

the same way to do long road, given you can't use glass
>have a solid first loop or obliterate, dont give up until stage 4
>cycle the shop for reds that you actually give a fuck about
you want up to 2 teslas, you want plenty of clovers (too many clovers makes the runald/kjaro procs drop your frames, aim for 5 but don't give up ukes or will o wisps), 5 meat hooks, 100% crit,
runald and kjaro (if one procs, so does the other), 3 ukes is enough, get wisps jars, sacrifical daggers are great, bleed daggers are nice but they can't crit so they fall off and so does gasoline, and get like 5-10 tougher times, and of course syringes are godly
Don't feel like you have to avoid the "B tier" items, just keep in mind they will fall off if it means you have to choose from a shop

phoneposter begone

What's happened? I stopped playing when the plant guy came out, I unlocked him and never used him

If that one retarded nigger from the devteam hasn't figured out that the point of Early Access is to have your players be your QA yet, this game is fucked.

New patch is more fun than the last one

>The regen change affects all the characters the same
small brained take. commando already had a tough early game due to low damage and an average mobility skill. drawn out teleporter fights are now nearly impossible to survive without really good items.
I played commando, artificer, mul-t, loader, rex, and merc today and it's clear which character is still in the shitter. The rest can loop just fine on monsoon or at least get to stage 4 before things get shitty.

the problem would at the dev level, if they didn't inform or write down anywhere that regen is supposed to be lower on higher difficulties, then it'd be impossible to notice anything is amiss.

what is the item in this game that makes the sloshing sound when enemies die?
I cant tell if its gas, will o the wisp, ceremonial dagger, or just late game xp

Yeah man, players would have reported the health regen bug on the first day! Oh wait

personally i don't see those numbers nor do i see "remote/userprofiles"

Why you have to be so mean :( if I had a pc I'd be using it for basically everything.

regen change definitely wrecks him the hardest. His new m2 is pretty good though. Don't really like the new R

>Loader is out. Heavy melee with big dick burst damage and Spider-Man grappling
>New items
>New stage
>New achievements for every character, each achievement will give an alt color or an alternate skill for a loadout.
Some skills suck, like Engie's mobile turrets because the AI is garbage, while others are basically flat upgrades. Most of them are just side-grades and are a matter of preference though

Have they added any new characters? I only ever liked Merc

How is Merc? I liked playing him the most, especially endgame where you could just play as fast as you wanted and one shot everything

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Loader is pretty much the warrior to Merc's ninja/rogue. Heavy melee damage in single bursts, and just as fun with its mobility

Loader is Merc but with BIG DICK DAMAGE replacing iframes, so yes.

user was a retard and pasted his own user id in there. Replace 96356144 with whatever numbers you see.

I just spent 3 hours looking for a crowbar printer on huntress and the new utility is fucking awful
please tell me her new m2 is broken

t. never got past the first loop anyway

>early access
miss me with that gay shit, nigga

how do you fight the imp overlord as loader?
I always get punched harder than I can punch him. Do I really just have to only drive by with shift and r?

where the fuck is the loader porn

his new abilities kinda suck ass, the upward slash is okay however, he's still mostly the same save for the regeneration being fucked for everyone now

Are any of the new arti skills good?

Loader dom arti sub when

if you're using m1 at all you're pretty much just playing suboptimally, the shift does ridiculous damage and is 100% safe

I just wish Loader basic melee was more of a punch than some silly arm flail

Her new teleport is better for dodging, objectively. Shit like Greater Wisps are a joke and you can dodge plenty of shit that your old cooldown length would hinder you.

Her new skill is an R, its okay.

Haven't really played since release, I take it this new Focus Crystal item is really good for Mercenary?

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Yes.

bruh everyone used sticky except for the slow hitters, is not an only commando nerf.

Which is better for Merc, Whirlwind or Rising Thunder?

Do you mean his general performance, or his new skills? Merc is still pretty good if you git gud with him like before, but his alt skills are mainly a preference thing
>Alternate M2: Rising Thunder
If you've played DMC then it's like High Time. It's a large jumping slash that deals high damage and carries both you and an enemy up into the air. It's range is fairly short and you're sacrificing horizontal mobility, but it's a pretty big jump and the damage is dealt in one hit. It does not change if you are in the air like the default M2 does either.
>Alternate R: Slicing Winds
Sends out a Wind Slash that then explodes into an Eviscerate style AoE. It can hit up to 3 enemies and deals a lot of damage, but it still has a high cooldown. Does not have I-Frames like Eviserate does. The projectile is fairly flat because it's a slash so it can take some time to get used to aiming it.

Does picking up lunar coins fuck your 20-round run for the Commando alt skill?

you're not thinking of the big picture.
commando was the proc king, every single m1 is two shots and he has the fastest and easiest path to ramp stickies.
Every character in lategame with 20+ stickies is going to obliterate everything. But commando's midgame applying stickies at a safe range helped him immensely scaling into lategame.

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It depends on your preference, they're both good
>Whirlwind
more mobile overall, Longer lasting hitbox, multi-hit, can stall in the air, large AoE around Merc
>Rising Thunder
Sacrifices horizontal mobility for vertical mobility, single hit in front of Merc, carries enemies into the air. Can function as a super jump

If we get a new M1 combo for Merc that lets him stay in the air while attacking enemies, then I'd probably pick Rising Thunder. For now though, there isn't much that you can do to follow it up and Whirlwind feels more flexible overall.

anyone have pics of the arti, huntress, rex and Multi-T skins?
I've already seen the commando and merc ones
and I guess Engineer doesnt have an alt.

Yeah that was a rough change. in scorched acres you basically had to hope you got a kjaro/runald and a couple other high tier items to get going on monsoon but now you need all that+woodsprite or leech seed or both

God Loader is so much fun, going full Spiderman is great.

THANKS user I CAN TRY THOSE THINGS WITHOUT GRINDING LIKE CRAZY CUZ IM BAD

I just grappled in a circle around a golem's face while charging a punch, released, killed him in one hit, and came a little.

I love this character.

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It's hilarious how people keep bitching about Vagrants too.
>Land on the motherfucker and wail on him (even on Monsoon, an early Vagrant can't hurt you that much)
>When he charges up, just power dash away, then come back and finish 'em off
Obviously doesn't work late game when there's 3+ of them and everything's a fuck.

>late game
by then you should hopefully have at least one or two backup mags so that you can swing away if things get fucky

loader's charge punch feels weak
am i doing something wrong?

i dunno about you but I literally die every time I fight a vagrant
I've looped monsoon but only because I got 0 vagrants
charge it fully, it's both the strongest hit and the single strongest ability in the entire game

Did they release sacrifice yet? Not bothering to play again until they do.

>beat a prismatic trial without taking damage
What the fuck were they thinking?

Exactly. By that point it's mostly momentum swings into power dashes that crush everything.

Her ult is godlike, what are you talking about? I've gotten good procs and noticed bossfights getting nuked by it why I'm charging my big boy punch.

there are a few things you might be fucking up
>1. Hold down the button to charge it fully
>2. Using it with momentum scales the damage similar to facestompers, so charging it while using the grapple hook will give you retard strength

I agree, I want Merc to have a better m1 replacement, something closer to loader. His rising slash is awesome to dodge with and deal damage with, much easier to stay where I want in the air. His eviscerate replacement is garbage though, hard to hit with, you lose your i frames, and he absolutely needs those.

speaking of which i just got a leech seed+woodsprite on first stage

side note: new m2 is really good for bursting enemies

can we talk about how fucking good focus crystal is with commando's shotgun?
2x800% with a point blank meat shot was BUILT for this item

You'll still be waiting for a long while because the update with Artifacts isn't due until Winter. I'd ballpark it around February or early March.

Holy shit Loader's animations are broken how am I supposed to make anything with this

host when

No
only shit in your inventory matters, that being said, dont pick up lunar equipment and try to ditch it later
go to the shop, just dont get blue items

>take away the muscles
Back to the fag parade with you.

I'm doing it right now you double lumerian

>Default M2 lets you stay airborne and is good for hitting targets like wisps, otherwise you have to do a short jump when using it for damage on enemies
>Alternate M2 lets you carry grounded targets into the air
Why the fuck do they have to be in the same slot, they'd combo so fucking well

>use the grappling hook
that's probably it, i didn't think to combine them

fighting vagrants is super fun as loader, you niggas just don't know

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Closed. Thanks to those who joined.

LOOK OUT, HERE COMES THE SPIDERMAN

see

I like to live on the edge

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US East
Monsoon
109775241053612084
Lets unlock some shit

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Am i the only one who likes new merc's r?

did they fuck up the 2 man scaling for monsoon? it is absoulely fucking stupid how ball busting it is right now, if you dont get perfect items, perfect dps and pray to god not elites as bosses then you might stand a chance
as soon as the 30 minute mark hits and you havent hit the 6th level you might as well give up because the scaling just gets retarded

>having a good run as Artificer
>get a Celestine elite
>die within three seconds

What the hell do they even do?

monsoon is just fucking gay right now
too many items feel absolutely required

It needs a tweak, but like Commando's M2 its probably not going to get a bigger projectile size.

I like it but it's a pretty big tradeoff desu
>give up I-Frames and mobility
>Get a projectile and slightly more damage
I don't think anyone has tested the scaling of Slicing Winds yet either. We know that Eviscerate scales off of Attack Speed, but we don't know if Slicing Winds gets any benefits like Commando does

I don't like that it replaces eviscerate, but I do like it a lot.
See: and

I think maybe whirlwind 's air slash should just be the default attack for Merc in mid air for his m1.

Would never gain traction on that circlejerk of a discord server hotpoop's got running.

it shreds bosses early on, which is commando's weakpoint

Fuck me, I still haven't unlocked rex, and I feel like this patch is making anything above drizzle really hard unless you got the correct items, or having others to helps you in multilpayer

You can sometimes do this with even the lesser wisps and fling yourself across the map, but it's pretty finicky and the grapple seems to break randomly.

Where the fuck is Bandit, Enforcer and Sniper?
They were my favorite RoR1 classes and none of them are in the game. It sucks.

All the achievements required for the new skills and skins.
>EngiKillBossQuick TreebotDunkClayBoss CommandoNonLunarEndurance MageFastBoss BurnToDeath HuntressCollectCrowbars EngiArmy TreebotLowHealthTeleporter LoaderSpeedRun CommandoKillOverloadingWorm ToolbotKillImpBossWithBfg ToolbotGuardTeleporter HuntressMaintainFullHealthOnFrozenWall MercDontTouchGround MageMultiKill MageAirborneMultiKill DefeatSuperRoboBallBoss MercCompleteTrialWithFullHealth MercCompletePrismaticTrialWithFullHealth MageClearGameMonsoon ToolbotClearGameMonsoon TreebotClearGameMonsoon MercClearGameMonsoon HuntressClearGameMonsoon CommandoClearGameMonsoon LaoderClearGameMonsoon EngiClearGameMonsoon

Paste this in your save xml behind the achievements bracket.

invalid

Enforcer is dead according to lore, and Commando getting a shotgun is the nail in his coffin. MUL-T is sniper with his rebar puncher. Bandit is available with mods, and with the new skills he'll only be better.

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Bandit is in the game, but you need to mod him in to get him to work. There's an extended mod for his dynamite fix. He's basically complete besides his dynamite, so nobody know why we don't have him yet.

Loader is nice and all but what's up with the bitchslaps that is his basic attack? This doesn't feel like the loader i knew

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to be fair, they fucked over the game balance again so playing on drizzle is actually understandable right now
>Change the health regen rate of every mode except drizzle because drizzle was intended to have higher regen, but it was accidentally applied to other modes
>Balance the game around this the entire time
>Suddenly remove it

It's a girl this time, that's why she bitchslaps now.

Thank fuck somebody else said it. I hate her running animations and her M1. Like some retard who happened to find the loader suit. RoR1 Loader's punches were direct, with finesse. Loved that.

>talking shit about loader's daughter

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Not to mention ror1 refers to loader as him when you clear the game as loader

I figure hopoo's smart enough that when the logbooks start rolling out, none of the RoR2 characters are the survivors from 1. They all lost their humanity and such.

honestly I feel this is compounded by problems from last patch
typed chests prevent almost any sort of useful damage items from being in the pool
players were heavily reliant on guillotine and the nerf is 100% deserved but now we have shit for damage

>loader's daughter went to the planet in order to find a suitable husband

SAY IT WITH ME

ALL WHITE GIRLS FUCK LEMURIANS

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join me lads as we take on monsoon in a futile attempt to unlock ebic skins

>64 fungus
>2 teslas
Wish I got this sequence in a multiplayer match

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Nothing scales well in this game, which wouldn't be a problem if your character's damage, healing, defenses scaled as well with leveling, but they don't. If you try and point this out the discord completely shits all over you because "harder is gudder" even if the gameplay suffers for it.

>sold out to Gearbox
>abandoned the first game
Forever pirating.

>monsoon
>team dies
>it'll take like 15 minutes to kill the boss solo
>even if you do the run is ruined due to scaling
This is just a permanent feature of the game, and I hate it. Either the ball gets rolling or the game is forewarning you to kys.

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hopoo said a long while ago that RoR1's code is so spaghetti he'd rather remake it than attempt a fix. The guys behind the RoR1 mod loader agree that RoR1's code is fucking awful. It's a miracle the game works as well as it does.

>>abandoned the first game
The first game is finished though.

breaks when you get too close to it iirc

Yeah, hotpoo need to fix this asap, since a lot of people on steam are already screeching about the game is hard now and the skill unlock challenge is bullshit

PS4 has proper online play with no glitches while PC is stuck with direct IP garbage and multiple gamebreaking bugs.

how are people this dull

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see

She must have some killer abs under those clothes

>anime avatar
gee I wonder

Yeah that's what I said. It's not the survivors from the first game. They're either on the planet, or fucked off.

>Loader is disgustingly strong and will be nerfed
She seems weak as hell desu. She's strong in the beginning because her punch has huge flat damage on it, but it scales like utter shit.

wow, it's almost like locking progression behind challenges creates an adequate skill curve and extends playtime...

what amazes me is that they have 19 hours, which is plenty of time to unlock everyone.

you are just flat out wrong
charge punch is digustingly strong and a completely safe move 99% of the time
2700% damage scaling means any and all proc-based items will literally take off half of a boss's hp per tick by lategame
t. monsoon player who knows the character by now

Wait. The boss that unlocks loader drops a red?

Needs an edit with the saw going "whrrrrrr..."

That's pretty cool.

It is cool but he should have less hp

I mean I just spent an hour and half run where I was loaded with items and the punch hit for jack shit even at mach speed, but alright bro. Max speed punch with like 7 crowbars and a crit did barely 1/10th of a bosses HP by the end.

>loader's alt costume is supposed to be construction yellow
>the lighting in the game makes it a gross yellowish green like MUL-T
dang

PS4 and Switch both hard crash if you get White Undershirt (M) twice.

does not reflect my loader experience at all
fully charged punch takes out massive chunks of boss healthbars especially because you're allowed to hit more than one boss at once
do you have any screenshots of your items or gameplay footage we can look at

>Engi
>recruit 12 minions at once

How? Would the equipment that spawns a bunch of drones activate this?

I might just go full fuck it mode and unlock all the secondary skills

is the seed for the topaz printer already gone?

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Regen nerf killed the game.

it does, get a few drones then pop the back up
wa la

>Keep trying to do Moonson in under 25
>Get fucked by bosses every time.
I don't remember having this much difficulty on the first loop if I rush it.

It's because of the regen nerf.

git gud

>wa la

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>have started taking cautious slug over literally any other white
regen nerf hurts boys

>Enforcer is dead according to lore
delete this immediately.

Why are you lying on 4channel.org?

The only possible difference is this was done purely in multiplayer. Her damage was nowhere even close to what you were describing; I was loaded down with Alien Heads, Backup Mags, and Afterburners to the point where I was flying through punches alone and it still took forever to chew through bosses.

Are they still gonna add on extra skills to characters in the future once they finish up with the currently planned ones?

try in solo and let me know how it goes

I know Sniper wouldn't work too well in the game but man I would love an active reload character and that little drone fella was so cool.

There are skills that are unfinished in the loadout menus.

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>get no/shit healing items because of shit RNG
>get stray-shotted
>die

Make anything within the AOE invisible

get a healing drone faggot
those things can last you a loop and a half and should tide you over until you get real healing items

I know, but I mean after the unfinished skills are done.

There is no reason to believe enforcer is dead. This is just a meme from brainlets with no reading comprehension who think because the medkit lore has a robot that is worried for enforcer's safety that he must have died. On top of that it is just AN enforcer as enforcer is a job. There's no reason to believe it's the same one. Hopoo has said that none of the 'returning' characters were on Contact Light.

The wrenches just show what will be there when early access is over I'm pretty sure. They've indicated that they would continue supporting the game, so it's likely there'll be more.

>drone gets stuck in a wall because drone AIs fucking suck
>die

don't go into the tunnels in the swamp and magma cavern stages if you want to keep your drones. Shepherding drones is easy, except for the big snow drone, that thing is always doomed.

Loader is a fucking blast to play as, I love rodeoing fools, charging up the punch, slaming them on an upswing, and having another grapple ready before i hit the ground.

Loader + Bandolier + 5 Loaded Mags = fun times