How, exactly, did he go from being the most beloved person on Yea Forums to the most reviled?

How, exactly, did he go from being the most beloved person on Yea Forums to the most reviled?

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Because Yea Forums has decided to become /pol/

Contrarianism.

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contrarian newfags

Because he made a game in 2015 that didn't meet Yea Forums's cutscene quota.

zoomers are faggots that's why.

/pol/ has nothing to do with it, go back to ResetEra.

He's been talking a big game for years now and it reeks of writing checks he can't cash.

MGSV

Doing something different and forging his own path. Easy to hate on that kind of shit.

Not true. There was a thread with 500 fucking replies early, 300 of which were about how Kojima is being too political and talking shit about Trump blah blah blah. Which wasn't even true, either.

He shat on ol' Donny

Neither you or the mods actually care about either Video Games or its well-being and quality.

>FUCK ANONS
>FUCK HIRO
>FUCK JANNIES
>FUCK MODS

I'm putting a the image of a sexy girl because that's what gets your attention you pathetic virgins and lowlifes.

That's what some of you want here. A new Yea Forums. And you're becoming increasingly effective in doing so.

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>"There’s actually three steps to that chiral network. For Bridges’ sake, you’re connecting from east to west and they want you to join the UCA – the United Cities of America. When you connect, you can use UCA services, but at the same time, they’re retrieving your information 24 hours a day. It’s like 1984. Some people may not like that, and say “I’m not going to connect to UCA, because we’re going to repeat the same thing that we did.” Like Trump, or the EU, these things. It’s a metaphor. However, if you get really close, they start to say, “Okay, I’ll connect.”"
>/pol/fags actually taking this as "KOJIMA LEFTIE REEE!!!"
The guy is right as fuck, he has constant anti-war, anti-big government, and pro-freedom messages in every one of his games. He barely even mentions Trump in that quote, and definitely not in any sort of negative light.
Is it not objective fact that America is divided right now, no matter which side you think is right?

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Following trends is not "forging your own path" you fucking retard.
Kojima is known for being political, though. Every game of his is a political statement wrapped in japanese camp.

Yea Forums likes kojima clearly, not sure how you came to this conclusion op. There's a reason the catalog is filled up every time he does anything.

>filled up every time he does anything
filled up with "WALKING SIMULATOR!!!!" you mean?

>YOU SEE, I INVENTED A NEW GENRE WHERE PEOPLE CAN CO-OP IN WHAT IS OTHERWISE A SINGLEPLAYER GAME!!!
>Mr. Kojima, are you aware of Dark Souls?
>W-what? No, I don't even play video games

If not even his last drone accepted his hackery at this point then they never will.

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I guess the right doesnt like Trump and EU being mentioned in the same sentence. They are quite sensitive (whoever you think the right is which is quite unclear if you think they are inherent anti-war, some history lessons maybe?)

Shit, you're right, chiral networks are really trending right now.

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>to the most reviled?
he isn't, however he is turning into gaming's george lucas, only a sensitive defensive kojimadrone would think he's the most reviled

because he stopped making video games, and went to play rl Antourage. his pretentiousness increased exponatinally, he is a fucking westaboo ,and instead of reinventing Metal Gear, he pays norman dindus billions to make shitty video gaym movies.

>muh /pol/ boogeyman

Kill yourself.

Yea Forums is just contrarian as fuck lately

Neocons aren't right wing in ideology, they're essentially the exact same as leftists. Most libertarians and conservatives are what i'd consider right wing.

Some loud retards and then most of the threads defend/don't care because they aren't brainlets and like kojimas work.

>At least I invented stealth!
>Mr. Kojima...
>.......

Gotta admit - even as a big fan of Kojima - reading that interview was the biggest facepalm I've had since the facepalm meme was relevant.

How could he say he doesn't play video games? How could he sit there and pretend he doesn't know shit about Dark Souls? How has nobody stopped him to tell him, hey, kojima, you dumb nigger, you're not creating a new genre, you're copying dark souls you fucking bag of oats?

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I don’t hate him. I just think his games suck. Metal gear solid 1 was great for it’s time but it aged really poorly. Thief 1, unfortunately for Kojima, was a much better stealth game released a few months later. Thief’s mechanics are the ones emulated to this day in the genre. The rest of the metal gear solid franchise is mediocre at best. The engine for 5 was cool though. A shame he didn’t make a good game with it

MGS is one of the best series in vidya and your opinion is garbage.

he was never beloved here, less hated yes, but people will never forgive him for The Phantom Pain and Guns of the Patriots, DS is just another water drop in the lake...

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Dumb newfag.

>he was never beloved here
You couldn't be more wrong.

Stay mad coombrain incel

people hate 5 for being so different to the series and having a garbage storyline. but you have to admit they did make a very fun game with that engine and you don't have to play it for the story or the gameplay you're used to, especially if you don't enjoy the other games in the series very much.

this also Konami has an agenda to slander him, so that may be reaching people

2008 when the giant shit called MGS4 was released.

>Implying
Zoomers love him, boomers hate him for wrecking mgs

....what

>he was never beloved here

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Do people not realise it was Konami who forced him to ruin MGS and not Kojima himself? Do you now know how pissed he was to have his franchise ruined, wiped of his name, and his engine stolen?

Link to interview?

His stock dropped significantly after MGS4. And then he continued his steady decline with Peace Walker, Ground Zeros, and especially TPP.
Glad people are realizing Konami was right.

>argumentum ad absurdem
I'm sure Vietnam veterans would take offense by your logic.

spbp

Because saying orange man bad tantamount to fucking your mother.

You people have no idea what you are talking about. Yea Forums loved Kojima until MGSV was released. Even up until its release Yea Forums went apeshit every time a new trailer came out, people were even postponing suicide for MGSV.
The only people who shitposted about MGS4 were people doing so because it was a PS3 exclusive, and Yea Forums had a lot of co-op threads for Peace Walker.

Yea Forums has been trashing kojima and calling him hack for a decade, ever since the Big Boss "Solid is not a real human" wankery post MGS3, then you came up with the "Fukushima was teh real writer" Bullshit, bitched for years about LiquidOcelot and half of MGS4 plot, then came the complaints about SOLID Rising getting turned into meme Crazeeh Revengeance and continous "Konami did nothing wrong" crap against MGSV, the "cut content", the twist and the way GZ was sold

Aside some people loving the postmodern aspects of MGS2 and MGS3 being literally the first MG game half of this bord played, You guys never acted like he was the "most beloved developer" ever, stop trying to rewrite history

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This is just a disguised "Why does Yea Forums hate X now" thread.

>Yea Forums stealing the credit from some dingo-eating faggots
at leats try to fake some shame

>”muh walking simulator”
If I can use a suitcase as a weapon then this game looks at least OK in my book.

>Its another Roland Klumpf Cheeto Hitler just keep dilating game.

Of all the preorders I canceled Death Stranding hurts the most.

Yeah, Yea Forums hated him so much that we sent him a birthday card in 2016.

Shit, wonder how many people an hero'd after / because of MGSV.

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Not enough, we still have too many ruisecruise fags.

It's not contrarianism to point out the stupid shit he has been doing for well over 8 years now.

and Yea Forums loved him so much that they fabricated the conspiracy theory about some other nip actually writting the MGS games while Hideo stole the credit!

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Do explain then - show us how Kojumbo is just following trends with Death Stranding. I mean, it's so obvious, right? Sorry man, one of us is a huge flaming faggot and I'm almost certain it's you.

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Because he partnered with Sony.
Yea Forums does not like Sony.

>criticize death stranding
>kojimbofags jump down your throat and scream about how literally everything hideo kojima ever makes is a 10/10 GOTY and if you disagree you're a contrarian
That's how

Because he doesn't like things that I like

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Making shit games will do that to you.

It’s really story focused but it’s got an awful story. 1 was better than the bare bones stories we got from that generation. But it’s story is only okay at best. 2 was really autistic. Raven sucks. It’s hard for me to understand how anyone can enjoy it. 3 was incredibly autistic. The boss is a terrible character. 4 was the most autistic thing I have ever witnessed in video games. It was straight up awful. It hurts my soul even thinking about it. Mgsv decided not to tell a story outside of a few cutscenes. Which left the rest of the game to... the boring open world. I never wasted money on a psp so I don’t have an opinion on those spin off games. The one game I really enjoyed was ground zeroes. But That was because I got it for free. And I don’t consider that a full game by itself. And if I was reviewing it based on its original price tag I would have been very upset.

Nigger, Fukushima has been a joke for over a decade until ruisecruise fags took it literally.

I hate /pol/niggers too, but holy fuck you are retarded

that's what happens when your audience grows up and you don't
people just realized how shitty his games were, he just pumps out the same games over and over again, shit got old on MGS

>i-it was justa joke!
sure, user...

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He stopped making good games

so a gamer can't dislike a game dev if they're political, support politics they disagree with and inject those into their games?

I've always thought he was a better movie director than a game developer. Just make sure he hires an editor. dear gods, does he ever need a good editor.

His writing went from shit to shittier.

His game directing went from top notch to mediocre.

The only way he is a “visionary” now is his visual style, but he can’t even take full credit for that because of Del Toro.

He lost his cowriters and editors.

Because mgs4 happened. And then 5.

>I'm a newfag so I don't know what you're talking about

It's kind of pathetic how easily people are going to give him a pass for MGSV. Like it wasn't his fault for taking years to finish a game with nearly endless support and financing.

Dumb fucking nip hack

I don't get why celebrities need to be in games. I don't really care for that. I don't dislike him though.

>be given a 100mil budget with a semi-reasonable deadline
>blow 100mil before the deadline on half a game
>be mad that your boss is asking what the fuck happened
I get missing a deadline, but not after spending your entire budget on half a product. Konami may have been a bunch of assholes for not pushing the date out for polishing but if you think Kojima wasn't a fucking hack with horrible money and time management (not even touching the retcon garbage of V in general) I wish I had that level of ignorance.

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Hes still riding on the Konami drama and people giving him the benefit of the doubt, if DS comes out and has the same fails that MGSV did, Kojima is finished

Ashamed of your words and deeds

All that needs to be said

I hate V with a passion for ruining the ability to be hype for a future release, but holy fuck do I look back fondly at stuff like the Red Band trailer release. Yea Forums was so hype as a collective. We were so happy it was getting closer and each new trailer gave us a little more hope. I can still watch them and think they're amazing trailers, then it ends and I remember how horrible the end result was.

you can't rush perfection, user
creative freedom etc

How could people possibly blame Konami, though? They fired him because he went years without any progress on a project they were bankrolling. The only proof that he was doing anything at all was spending the money on a hollywood star

This is the reason why he will never make a "bad" game. Journalists and Kojimadrones will suck his dick no matter what.

Retard

This site leaves such a bad taste in my mouth nowadays. Games should be fun to talk about, not depressing.

This shit was so fucking funny.
The guy seems up his own ass.
>Yeah, I'm making a new genre you know
>It sounds pretty similar to Dark Souls though
>D-Dark S-Souls? I d-don't even play games much n-nowadays

Nice counter argument faggot

Video games are serious!

his output in the past 14 or so years has been shoddy. still, there's probably still enough gas left in the tank to put out a truly great title.

its easy when Konami is such a shitty company, even when you forget the deal with MGSV

There's absolutely nothing wrong with using reality and current events and invariably politics in games when done properly (ie DX and MGS) it's just now the last decade people started to take issue with it when it's done wrong (admittedly lots of examples there). Granted politics ruins absolutely everything and anything and always has and always will (not just identity politics ie the ultimate divide and conquer psyop, but the regular sense of the word too) but as a wise man once said power doesn't just go away and probably never will, power usually involves politics, and there's no sense purposely avoiding it for the sake of pure escapism (unless that's what you're going for with your game) or even worse, avoiding it for fear of alienating part of your paying audience because they're purposely inflating their toes to be so big there's almost no possible way of not stepping on them.

Boomers like myself can never really hate Kojimbo. He gave us MGS

I've always thought he was a fucking hack

Because the community decides who is on top, when someone starts talking about how amazing they are and how revolutionary they are being shows they are just pretentious

>How
MGS4 and V. happened.

Who?

Even if it's true?

I loved that period on Yea Forums where fucking literally anything could happen in video games where Kojima was involved

>JOAKIM MOGREN
>Hayter is coming back as the REAL Snake/Solid Snake
>Zone of the Enders is in the MGS universe
>Chico is Quiet
>Venom is Decoy Octopus
>The scientist/surgeon behind the world's first head transplant is actually working for Kojima and it's all a big meme

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Did this quack actually succeed with the head transplant??

They really weren't that bad

Especially when it's true honestly.

Is that a serious question?

No apparently he abandoned it after having a child (paid off because it was going to work and they didnt want to horrify the public)

I just wanna know how horrible of a butchering the show was, or what excuse he made in order to bail out of it...

Ah yes won't somebody think of the executives! We need more gacha and less real games so Mr. Kozukistein can afford his next yacht!

honestly if he manages to make a better soulslike than sekiro, I'll buy it
>bought the dark souls remaster
>twice (PS4 & PC)

>Granted politics ruins absolutely everything and anything and always has and always will

Some of history's greatest works of art have been incredibly political. What a stupid statement. Hell, everything is political to a degree. If you don't think that something is political it's because you either conform to, or are ignorant to, its bias.

>(paid off because it was going to work and they didnt want to horrify the public)
[citation needed]

I remember this

He was ready to do the surgery, had studied it for decades, got 2 donors for it, got the money for it, but backs out because he "finds love" lol

>Australia
Hahaha oh my fuck I remember that. What the fuck was he thinking?

>being a kojimafag in 2019

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These are wrong.

The Russian volunteer who was due to receive the procedure backed out. There has been no further public word on it by Canavero.

>to the most reviled?
I wish, the man could take a messy diarrhea dump in a box and call it "Shart Splurting by Hideo Kojima" and you'd have Blojimbobdrones on here defending it and eating it up

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imagine being a quadraplegic man with nothing to loose and still getting scared of free surgery

Why does anyone take this man seriously after the whole "words and deeds" nonsense?

That's Russians for you.

Literally everything ever is inherently political to a degree. You just use it as a blanket excuse when you really only dislike contemporary critique(only when your pea sized brain can perceive it aka when it's blatant) cause you're trying to run away from the real world and your issues.

What did Kojima's games do to you?

MGS4 was a movie and MGS5 was the dumbest shit ever. He stopped making good games so people stopped riding his dick, not a difficult concept

Friendly reminder that Kojima has only made 1 (ONE) good game

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I dunno. I don't like MGS but I've got nothing against the guy and I think Death Stranding looks interesting.

word

this
fuck the /pol/yp cancer, making that board was a mistake

This. Just imagine Yea Forums shitting on Anno it's ridiculous. Contrarian zoomers are just going to have to learn to respect the culture that came before them.

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>wtf there are people who don't suck some nip's dick to hell and back because he used to make a few decent games? FUCKING /pol/!!!!!!!

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>decided
kys resetera revisionist

He spent the entire MGSV budget on celebrity dinners and gave us a less than half finished game.
He then went on to make a walking simulator while having the nerve to act like he created a new genre. Dude is a hack.

When he was allowed to do whatever he wanted with MGSV.

KEK did he actually say that? Jesus fucking Christ this guys is hilarious....

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>walking simulator

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Good God fucking dammit what is it now Yea Forums? you fucking act like kojimbo fucking metoo'd you

It's a propaganda workout.

Zoomers don't know Tomokazu Fukushima was the real mastermind behind MGS.

>I showed a movie director a trailer and my translator explained it
>He said I was right!
Jesus

>W-what? No, I don't even play video games
Or read books. All he does is watch netflix.

Because almost 20 years ago most of the fans were teenagers that thought they were smart for "undertanding" the plot of MGS2, there even was a meme about it.

>Just imagine Yea Forums shitting on Anno
But they have always have retard.
Don't speak of things you don't know.

Pretty certain it's this one
gameinformer.com/interview/2019/09/16/hideo-kojima-answers-our-questions-about-death-stranding

What? The entirety of MGSV was a homage to Moby Dick.

everyone shits on Anno even Yea Forums, there's a reason he's universally called the "George Lucas of anime"

more like your mom's dick

MGSV broke Yea Forums's collective mind like a two bit doujin whore. It killed /mgg/ with one swift blow, along with regular spoiler Metal Gear threads. Probably nobody was here when people from here sent kojimbo a card for his 50th birthday, and Yea Forums became australia for a day. I think everyone actually managed to leave, I believe I am the only one left, haven't seen a single positive metal gear thread since September 1st, 2015. Change my mind.

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Metal Gear Solid fags got BTFO by V. In their anger they did a 180 and now hate kojimbo

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Yea Forums shits on anno all the time nigger

He's not reviled. He's not even in the top 100 most reviled. He's a hero who puts his all into making great games I enjoy playing.

I think it was when he was praising GTA 5 that started a lot of questioning around here, people were worried he was going to make an open world game. And then he did exactly that while claiming to have invented dark souls' multiplayer aspects

>”George Lucas of anime”
That’s Tomino.

He stopped making games with a lot of cutscenes and started making movies disguised as games.

nobody in that thread believed that article lying tranny

Didn't he get fired from Konami from being against mobile games??

Why are you killing your own kind brainlets?

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Moby Dick the 1998 TV movie, not the book.

Naming characters after a thing you like, so brilliant. I love when Snake and Hal laugh at their names being like that movie. I'm gonna write a love story where the characters are called Romeo and Juliet, I wonder if anyone will catch the subtle homage I'm doing.

Aside from your desire to be a speshul individual with your "lul am I da only 1 lef ^_^", you're not really wrong. It suffers from the same issue Mass Effect does. You can absolutely love the earlier titles and even if you make a MGS3 thread, you'll still be reminded of the absolute trash that comes later on and it sours the experience.

I often create inflamatory OPs against older metal gear games but I actually like those games.

Kojimbo is not my own kind.

The story must have flew so far over your little head, I feel sorry for you.

This. He's essentially the Rosa Parks of video game development right now.

Not saying Konami was in the right, but the moment he got let go and Doritos pope and everyone just beat his dick apart with massive praise it went to his head hard. Gotta love it when hes on twitter being like "I WAS ALONE! I STARTED FROM NOTHING AFTER KONAMI! JUST ME AND MY LAPTOP!" When everyone and their mother were doing anything they could to throw money at him.

He started posting on social media and people learned what a retarded faggot he is.

The theories were more fun than MGSV and they were better than what we got.

Kojima's so far up his own ass that he can see what he had for lunch. Add on that DS looks underwhelming despite all the potential and hype and its no surprise people are over this guy.

Literally this

but it wasn't kojima who made the parts we remember from "his" previous games. one man does not make a game, or a movie. it takes a team of people. there were translators and co-writers involved.

And now Konami is turning Castlevania into phone gacha shit.

well in dark souls other players invade or get summoned, with phantoms being hints so there is some sort of "matchmaking" where players appear physically in your game.
Death stranding has players interconnected in the game where they modify the environment without manifesting physically, therefore it doesn't have any kind of direct matchmaking making it different than dark souls and I don't think any other games do this "strand" mechanic

at least he's not anthony burch
youtube.com/watch?v=eB6tqxqwSfU

Pretty much this.

>Universally a loved series on Yea Forums
>hivemind shuts down any criticism of it
>video essays start coming out
>MGS2 unironically starts being prided around as one of the holy three best games of all time because it's a post-modernist masterpiece
>You can see image posts in the era including it in the first 3x3 threads and on that god awful 100 best games of all time that changes everytime it's posted
>the hype for MGSV becomes unreal
>people hold up Ground Zeros and everything Kojima has done as literary mastercraft unironically
>other people start getting fed up with the Kojima dick-sucking
>ironic shitposting starts
>Fukashima meme starts
>MGSV plot twist guessed at the first hospital demonstration, even speculated and guessed correctly in theory threads.
>People who ride Kojima's dick expect ruse twists
>Get pretty much what was already found out, plus an unfinished game
>MGSV being a bit of dud in many respects gives shitposters fuel to shit up Kojima threads
>Eventually Death Stranding revealed
>Kojimabros get hype again
>The people tired of Kojima praise threads on page 0 (who I'm sure are rosterfags too) go into full contrarian mode.

The full history of Yea Forums and Kojima summarized by some faggot.

You forgot the site playing embedded MGS4 music for a week on release.

I'm still mad about that "twist"
at this point not having a twist would've been a bigger twist

>watches movies all day
>doesn't even play video games
>makes a "game" that focus on walking, cinematics, and movie actors
>claims he created a new genre that already exists

the playstation memes literally write themselves at this point

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I figured the

"universally loved series on Yea Forums" covered that.

Honestly, I think it's just people inflating Kojima's writing too much. The theory threads alone were shit that I think even Kojima would never think of unless it was fed to him with a western movie.

You can only be so pretentious during interviews, and only have so much hamfisted politics that inaccurately reflect real world stuff before people get tired. That quote about not playing many games and film and music people understanding him better basically gave credence to every shitpost about him.

>The guy is right as fuck
Is that why he said he's scared that America haa right wing people?

The real answer to this is because he’s making a PS4 exclusive. If it was a switch or multiplat game people would be sucking him off again.

>doesn't even play video games

Honestly, the shitposting I see on Yea Forums makes me feel most of them don't and just latch onto whatever sseth, mandolore, or another youtuber has to say about a game

fpbp

MGS4 and V happened.

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Maybe he meant he is right, not right

Only shithead zoomers and contrarians bitch about based Kojima. The man is a living legend, to be exalted and cherished as a prodigious man who has influenced generations and generations to come.

But Kojima had done nothing """"anti/pol/""" and was vilified before the recent shit. You brainwashed loser

He was vilified before recent events bub

>right is anti-war
wew

You forgot the notes you can leave for others. Work exactly how you just explained

You can't leave notes in Death Stranding.

Time makes an enemy out of everyone here.
See also Kamiya and Gaben

Becoming incomprehensible might be a factor.
Running the mouth on social media inevitably results in this.

Xcucks doing what they always do.

desu I find Death Stranding bland, but the main problem is the open world. That was also an issue with MGSV.
Death Stranding just seems it will be a fetchquestfest while running around with huge intervals of nothing happening...

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I actually contributed to that, put one of the few boktai cards in it.
This was before his hackiness had sunk in though

That guy Hideous Kajima's love hate relationship with Yea Forums has always existed. I think it's more safe to say that Yea Forums has always been an outlet for him, and the entire point of Yea Forums is for people to act/say/worry on things that people have no ability or desire to do themselves, or else become depressed or isolated. It's kind of like the first time most people start using Facebook, you think, fuck this fucking bullshit, I'll just ignore these idiots and write stupid memes as a hobby. Then it turns out that those people aren't stupid, they actually enjoy posting stupid posts about how fucking lame it is to be miserable and stupid, so it becomes a much easier outlet for people to let their feelings be heard. Like it or not, it's an outlet that is not really open to people who have no desire or ability to do it themselves. There is a limit, though, which is that Yea Forums is for the people who have no hope or reason to do anything better than doing what they do.

This post is so retarded I can't even tell what side of the argument you are on.

EVA is star wars
Gundam is star trek

I think the strand mechanic/gimmick makes sense as a "genre" and new games will use it, like imagine playing minecraft and everytime you generate a set of chunks there's a probability of it being someone's else's chunk with another's player structure like a house with loot in it, it would make MC so much more interesting to explore here as now there's a set of predefined structures