Greedfall

What is the best party for Extreme exploration? Kurt sucks and dies from two hits, fuck Aphra, Vasco and Petrus are more or less ok, and Siora is a low tier healslut.

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>mfw "what a shame"

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>kill some giant ass boss thing that takes like 80 bullets
>loot it
>5 gold

You get an item which you can sell for 150G

a bit of poison on my blade

Insist

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Give Siora a bit of poison on her blade and she'll graduate from a healslut into a healslut that can actually hurt enemies. I'm still trying to figure out if the healing necklaces do anything for her, though.
Petrus is great since he ignores armor and can deal damage from a bit of range, just feed him rings.
I'd imagine Aphra is good, considering she can throw bombs, but I haven't used her much yet.

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>tfw things are about to get dicey

>delet this petrus

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DICEY

>lady de sardet
it feels so fucking wrong

It really doesn't.

Indeed, it's Legate De Sardet.

She insists?

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This is one of my favorite 7/10 games

>Kurt sucks and dies from two hits
you are a fag

im legat de sardines and im of the a diplomat of the congregation of merchants

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>it's the "Sardine busts through the door and starts screaming at governor Burhan who claims he has no idea what his people are doing" episode
Wow, this one gets a lot of reruns.

>tfw fail to introduce myself properly again
why the fuck am I forced to roleplay as my actual autistic self?

it got funny by the third time

It's very satisfying

7/10 best game of the year

how dare you make siora wear that

Embrace the Congregation.

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She looks great in it. I'm helping.

>tfw there are NO 100 quality agility swords
fucking gay

You get one from the arena.

I'm interested in this game but I have no interest in managing a party or even a follower. I just want to play my character and do my thing, I don't want to be forced to have someone or a group of someones following me around, saying the same things over and over, bitching at me for playing how I like etc.

Is that forced on me in this game?

Yes. it gets really bad when you need potions

woops meant 1 handed agility swords

Damn, that's a shame but I appreciate you telling me straight. Thanks.

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This game looks like a USA equivalent of a Eurojank RPG.

How close I am.

what does that even mean

quality doesen't mean shit, ended the game with 27 quality old dueling pistol that did 555 phys and 60 armor damage, only things outclassing it by a small margin being endgame-tier musket and blunderbuss that required 5 accuracy while my blue guy only required 1(ONE!)

Sardine's first name is Legate confirmed.

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It's french

Is there any reason not to just slaughter everyone at Asili's lab?

now I'm lost

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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I did. Just keep researchers alive, they'll be useful in future. Asili as well.

I meant just the guards, since Siora was concerned about them. Asili better have some good arguments if he wants to survive this.

>Evil EVIL white men with no spiritual connection or understanding invade and pillage the peaceful femocracy of lady savages(peaceful, goddesses, powerful)
>Featuring AFRA the nigress

Cool

>greedfall 2 begins
>"when we arrived Constantine's corpse wasn't there!"
>they'll somehow resurrect him because muh demigod mev-like or something

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I took Aphra and Vasco with me and they didn't say a word about guardians.

Aphra is from the evil science unit 741 faction with the least connection to spirituality of all

Umm, excuse me sweaty, She's black and therefore infinitely more spiritual than you

Why is my character automatically against the Inquisition
This cannot be happening

>tfw the sequel will follow the new gods endings

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The ones who invade and start a war are the literal Ottoman retards
Theleme has a retarded faction but they also have sane moderates

Note quite but you will believe what you want anyway while judging others for doing the same kek

the endboss in one of the endings introduce himself to you before the fight

Because you are a CHARMlet

Gotcha. Time to do what Sardine does best then.

>greedfall 2 announced
>reveal trailer ends with Constantin saying "my dear cousin'

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The party members never dodge or block anything so they'll always die in a few seconds on extreme unless you outgear whatever you're currently fighting by a good margin.

Eat shit.

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>just 1 point in accuacy and 5 pointst total in guns
>rest is a pure magic
>a trusty blunderbuss STILL rips the enemies to shreds and deals a niggerrillion of damage with crystallization stasis
I dread to think about the damage full gun builds shit out

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Should've put more points in [Intuition] my man

I'm not sure if I'll be happy as fuck or disappointed with such low-tier plot twist.

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Easy 1700+ damage with a good rifle
And you can kill almost every enemy pack with throwing 3 element/magic grenaded
Magic and Guns are broken

Because Sardine isn't an idiot and, like Petrus, realizes that the Inquisition isn't sustainable and will inevitably result in either a civil uprising or theleme being at war with literally everyone.

Does Mev takes the knot?

Doesn't she have a bf or who was that guy?

How should I be dividing my attribute stat ups as a mage type character? Just hit level 20 and I have 3 points in Mental, 2 in endurance and 1 in willpower. Same question with talents, I currently have it at 2 vigor, 2 craftsman, 1 Charisma. I still have 4 reset crystals to play with in case I fucked up hard but I kinda feel like I should be stingy about it

Sounds like something a demon worshipper would say.

>That one native describes theleme as the people that "praise the sun"

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I'm going to eyescontact him to death.

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Knowing about Dark Souls makes Spiders already less of a hack studio than Kojima Productions at least.

>The party members never dodge or block anything

Damn, really? I never noticed this. I don't doubt you're telling the truth, but it sounds so unreal that I have to see it with my own eyes.

Give ME Aphra wife!

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They are really dumb and passive compared to enemies, damn shame

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Why does the best two-handed sword only require 3 Agility?

Just like Spectre was Shepard's first name

De Sardet has a diplomatic disposition because muh merchants

The least he wants is business to go wrong because it is a sin or something

>you can let the unit 731 researchers go and do whatever they want
Fucked up and historypilled.

Give ME unit 731 wife!

>yfw you find out that Asili gave Constantin the malichor

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Wrong. Commander was.

operation legateclip

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DON'T
Do it officially.

Is there an ending where I don't join Constantine but New Serene annexes all other civilizations?

Downloaded it this morning and have been playing all day

I'm happy bros

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>longtime Spiders fan
>mfw Yea Forums likes this game

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I legitimately want them to get a massive budget and a bigger team. Greedfall has so much potential but it falls short. I just want proper dialogue and choices, not this autopilot for like 80% of the game.

Burhan is orange man

But Burhan is a scientist and orange man is a climate denier.

The USA equivalent is just garbage junk aka Bethesda "mods will fix it" AAA games.

Is orange man bad?

>Petrus makes me dig up blackmail material on the Mother Cardinal
>Mother Cardinal always has my back
I'd rather have had a leg up on that shitwagon Burhan to be honest

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How effective Pistols compared to Rifles? Do they hold up (relatively) well as time goes on? I'm not sure if I want to spend 4 points just to be able to use rifles...

Better to have blackmail and not need it. Knowing someone's dirty secrets brings you closer, after all.
Burhan himself will give you all the ammo you need against him.

Imagine having Captain as your first name.
>hi captain

Theres basically no point in getting blackmail material on the turbans.
They know they are shitters and just pretend to look the other direction no matter how much shit gets revealed about them.

>Flat out admits to sending on a wild goose chase so I'd lead his spy to Mev
>Point out that the spy tried to shoot me
>"Whaaaat? Pfffft I definitely didn't tell him to do that haha"
remove bridge

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Petrus wants her position, he basically uses you by pretending it's for your own good when he's actually pursuing his own agenda

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Noticed this in the arena once I got to trial 3 and my party fucking wiped 20 seconds in before they had dealt any damage to the enemies.

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Burhan is smug because he knows that no matter how much shit you know about him, he's still made out of science and nobody can oppose science

Doing the intro in Serene I was sure Theleme were going to be the assholes but holy fuck was I wrong

I hated magic at the start, but now that I'm level 18 I can see it's pretty strong and I can solo most enemies pretty easily. I also pretty much soloed the coin arena and all of its 5 waves when I was level 7, and I finished it as level 10 or 11.

The combat in this game is still pretty fucking boring, though.

they keep talking about 'Light' and have red suns on all their shit, ergo they praise the sun

Well, that was fun. Going to play Pathfinder:Kingmaker now. What am I in for?

run before valerieanon gets to you

>De Sardet wasn't able to connect the dots and state that an old hermit = San Matheus
Come on.

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an inferior version of Underrail

Curses. Meta curses. Tiefling waifus.

multishot pistols are sex

Yeah, Theleme was actually fairly moderate as far as depictions of Theocracies go.

Why the fuck are the bridgers such belligerent assfucks though.

Character creator is the hardest boss.

its what happens when you throw all measures of spirituality out of the window
look at china

>shoot shadow bolts
>teleport to the enemy and punch him at the same time he gets hit by a bolt
>quickly teleport back and make a few pistol shots
Mage/gunner playstyle is so fun

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It's too late, the trog is in every greedfall thread.

What the fuck is the point of Vasco. I swear the fucker dies in every single fight.
In terms of usefulness:
Siora > Aphra > Petrus > Kurt > Vasco

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Okay, let me get this straight because it sounds retarded
Mackerel's mom is a young shaman
she gets abducted by the merchants - Mackerel's adoptive father included - because they think she can heal the malichor
Mackerel's biological dad dies trying to free her
she gives birth on the way back
the child is taken from her, probably at the behest of Mackerel's adoptive father
sometime between abducting Mackerel's mom and returning home, Mackerel's adoptive father dies
they make landfall, Mackerel gets adopted by the de Sardet family, his biological mom is imprisoned
Petrus meets Mackerel's biological mom, falls in love with her
Petrus reveals that he knows the family that took Mackerel in, so Mackerel's mom entrusts him with the pendant and dies shortly thereafter
Petrus remains in contact with the de Sardet family and gives the pendant to Mackerel's adoptive mom
Is that it or did I get something wrong?

Give him better weapons you renaigse. He's literally the only one who can survive in a bossfight on extreme and STEAL YOU FUCKING FRAG FUCK YOU VASCO.

he is highest dps companion

Oh, no. I'm definitely going for the Tieflings.

Didn't tuna born in a ship.
Shouldn't he/she be a Naut?.

There was no Mackerel's adoptive father in the first place. When the prisoners arrived to the continent, the Merchant Prince (aka Consta's dad) decided it's a good opportunity to jew the island and gave you to his sister (your malichor mama).

What! Do NOT worry user it IS okay user BECAUSE I DO prefer Valerie user BUT the tieflings ARE both CUTE wifes user! (They are! They are!)

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A man of taste.

Yes, and the Merchant's taking him from the Nauts by force is what severed their thousand year alliance, had the Nauts sell the location of Teer Fradee to everyone and forced the Congregation to pay considerable renumeration just to get a Neutral relationship with the Nauts back. They take their sea-given and sea-born shit seriously.

Yeap.

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Kanerah IS a CUTE wife!

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I don't think it really about Naut's -tism, it's about the contract. Fucking CoM got what they deserved for breaking it. Nauts knew what they're gonna do.

GOOD taste!

I would join them, but I don't want a tattoo.

Wait a fucking minute. Are you telling me Rifles are only one-shot? All of them?

Thank YOU user! You ARE a GOOD user!

Wear a mask. Honestly, I wouldn't mind a tattoo if it wasn't a fucking chin tattoo.

>anonymous image board
>still have people personas even without the trips
why

Acknowledging the whole 'Sea-born' and 'Sea-given' thing is a part of every contract the Nauts make. If you're working with them, you have to recognise their right to both. The CoM taking Marlin was a slap in their face.

How much of a jump is hard to extreme? I'm playing on the former currently, just hit level 17 and everything is ez pz. Maybe I'm just over levelled from doing all the side quests I could as I got them. I'm just about to investigate the mines, have got Aphra and also finished investigating the cult stuff for Theleme.

>CoM's prince face when

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It's really just him. He's a sperg that popped up in Pathfinder general on /vg/ and reappears whenever people are discussing CRPG's with waifus.

I actually quite like him. He's just so persistently retarded, it's hard not to.

Since we're talking about Pathfinder a bit

>buy the books
>looking through
>there's a picture of Amiri on a throne

Please don't tell me that in the lore, Amiri became ruler of the Stolen Lands. It's simply too stupid to be true.

The games super easy on any difficulty except if you gimp yourself.
I.e. being having a full gun/bomb build and still always using your 0 skilled sword because of hoarder mentality.

>met Aphra for the first time
>all I can think is 'give ME Aphra wife'
This fag is so persistent he lives in my head rent free now.

yes
she even had manslut harem

Came to this thread specially to gander at your autistic speech, user

millennial narcissism

some people just can't shut up and join the Yea Forums hivemind

I'm already gimping myself by refusing to use magic at all. I went guns/traps/one handed swords.

Nah, they just use the Iconics for pretty pictures. In the lore, I'm pretty sure they haven't done anything definite outside their comics and origin stories.

Kingmaker is also a really bad AP for Iconics to be a part of in canon, since it locks to them to one location pretty much forever.

Amiri IS a CUTE king wife!

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No. There never was a definite leader in story, but they seem to now be leaning towards Hedwirg (the default fighter character) from the video games being the canon King of the Stolen Lands, given that for their 'brand new improved Kingmaker campaign' they pretty much just stole all of Owlcat's storylines and companions (because Owlcat did a much better job). Hedwirg is also on the front cover of their new handbook for the series.

Dont forget to take your meds, aphraschizo

Isn't this Amiri post taking over the Tiger clan of barbarians or whatever they're called? Seems far more likely than anyone, on the face of the planet, thinking Amiri is fit for royal office.

remember, church bad, uncivilized niggers always good, choice bad, what we force you good, bomb people good

>Stasis Crystallisation

This is fucking broken.

And it's beautiful.

nexusmods.com/greedfall/mods/42
>Merchants Sell Memory Crystals
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

hmmmmm i wonder why the ai has stuff like shadow blast (or whatever its called) but not stasis

thinking

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How's magic against bosses? I know it can obliterate normal enemies but when I used it on a boss my damage was shit.

>stasis resistance amulets
>for both (you) and enemies

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How is this any different from Amiri?

Just stasis + gun them

Bosses can be afflicted by Stasis.
Thats all you need to know.

>they pretty much just stole all of Owlcat's storylines and companions
Stolen Lands indeed.

he is annoying faggot
and should hang

>been following Pathfinder since KS but chose to only play the finished product
>planned my build for days and wanted to start playing like a week ago
>but Greedfall came out that day and decided to postpone b/c of it
>it was worth it

Amiri is an Iconic. She's not allowed to just settle down in a kingdom. Notice that even in Kingmaker, all her companion quests endings have her eventually leave and do other shit.

Hedwirg just exists for the Kingmaker setting, and they used him on the front cover of the Companion guide for the tabletop. And in that companion guide, they have rules and quests for Amiri to be a companion, so they clearly now like the idea of Amiri being part of the Stolen Land story, but not as the baron/ruler, a role left to the party/player.

>>it was worth it
How would you know, though?

Shame I was hoping for a Mage playthrough

Bosses are just bullet sponges regardless of your build
Mage completely bypasses their armour and avoids dealing with some of their most annoying attacks by lighting dashing around

Stasis + Adrenaline cast works well too.

Honestly i wish that instead of Amiri we just got an OC barbarian girl we could fuck

This. Mages are safe as fuck. Lightning Dash is just one big long I-frame

oh wow
sound logical but at the same time it makes it even less convincing

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How do you lie a husband to an adult woman?
That's beyond retarded.

The Princess probably was married at some point, and they just passed you off as her kid.

This a setting where women can do whatever, so children out of wedlock probably aren't uncommon, and for her especially being nobility it's not like she would be wanting without a spouse.

*recognized children out of wedlock, versus the concept of bastards and illegitimate we used to have in this setting's relative equivalent.

Dude. Look. A massive group of conquistadors arrived on the island. They've imprisoned a local very respected and very powerful mage who was very pregnant at that time, along with some other people. The father of a child tried to get her back but died because guns. The dudes sent her to their Boss, and she gave birth to a child in a process. The Boss had no plans for her, but (You) could've become a very great instrument of manipulation and the Prince wanted to obtain the whole island with your help. So he decided to take a risk because he's an arrogant and greedy fag. And Nauts said "fuck you and your contract breaking". And then you momma died in pain because retard Petrus couldn't bring himself to help her escape or just kill her.

Didn't your "father" "died", if he even existed? I mean, everyone told you how much you resemble him, but it seems that it was a pure lie made by people who knew about adoption.

You know, Consta's dad invested an absolute shitload of resources in you, if you think about it.

>hired a captain of the Con Guard to serve as your master of arms
>clearly had a first class education - possibly even in magic or advances sciences
>made you legate
>clearly well respected by the family as a whole, and genuinely loved by your adoptive mother

I mean, if the malichor wasn't ravaging the continent, De Shark would have had a first-class childhood.

Give ME adoptive mommy wife!

>tfw you're probably going to inherit his title
Imagine if it was him who plotted the whole "let's poison my shitty son with BA's help" scenario.

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I mean, it's made clear, by Constantin and others, that his father thinks FAR more highly of you than he does his own son. He still wants his son to inherit, but basically the entire fucking family knows that you're better for the job.

I expect an evil mastermind speech in 2.
>inb4 complex motives

I've got a week off. I want to play a good CRPG.

Baldur's Gate, Kingmaker or Divinity 2? I'm also open to other suggestions, though these are the three I've been hovering over for a while.

Notice that my remark was only referring to the postponing itself, and thus it's mostly about Greedfall's enjoyment value. I'm going to play P:K anyway, the question is only when - after more than 2 years of waiting, I can hold out a little longer if it's justified. And I feel it is.

Temple of elemental evil or Icewind 2

Out of the three? Kingmaker

BG if you want a classic irpg with a good writing, but I personally prefer 2. RTwP
Kingmaker if you want a classic irpg AND modern approach to rpgs, in a good way. But, it's long as fuck. RTwP as well
DOS2 (fuck Divinity 2) if you want ONLY a modern approach to rpgs. It's interesting and the writing is simpler that in other two. Turn-based
Basically all is good, but highly depends on your personal preferences.

Unironically Enderal. Especially after Greedfall.

I mean, if he has never played Baldur's Gate, it's worth a shout. It's one of the quintessential isometric RPG's, and it's much easier to go from BG to Kingmaker than vice versa.

I'm supposed to talk to the native villagers to get information out of them but literally nobody is talking to me except for 1 who is refusing to answer my last question what the fuck? Is this bugged? It being a bug is always an option in eurojank so I'd rather ask than potentially searching in vain

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What about Neverwinter Nights?

Avoid the Enhanced Edition if you go BG
Beamdog shoehorned some unnecessarily woke new content and also delisted all unmolested versions because their edit was underperforming in comparison.

Eh, I personally find it overrated. It didn't age well.

SoU and HotU are great. The OC is a fat steaming pile of shit. There are modules better than any of them.

I highly recommend Tales of Arterra.

Man, installing tutu is such a fucking chore though.

You SHOULD play Pathfinder Kingmaker AND romance Valerie user! You SHOULD romance Valerie user BECAUSE she IS my BEST wife user! (She is! She is!)

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>Tales of Arterra

Nice. Persey is the best succubus romance in CRPG history. prove me wrong.

The official campaigns are tech demo tier.
If I had to choose freely, I'd pick Gothic II or Temple of Elemental Evil (with Co8 and Temple Plus both installed)

>succubus romance
sounds likje a fucking trap to me

Isn't Valerie supposed to be supermodel hot?
Here she looks like a cute uggo at best.

she uglyfied herself

She IS cute!

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Now that I think of it, P:K certainly lacks WHO DO YOU THINK I AM lines.

>be baron/king
>cant even introduce yourself
pretty lame desu

Nah, it actually works well. Succubi in the setting are literal fapbait set up by the demon lords and devils, who know that powerful mortals are still basically horny monkeys and willing to trade inordinate sums for attractive partners. Persey's old master literally paid a dragon egg + some other shit for her, even though he'd originally set the deal up for something else (a far more valuable something else) entirely.

So Persey is basically an emotionless sex slave, and helping her break out of that shell is the crux of the romance. It's good.

Greedfall was a point of no return. Now I need to satisfy my appetite for fancy introductions in each and every title.

I remember one intimidation check like that and it's apparently very easy to fail to convince some woodcutters of your importance.

Nvm found the nigger

FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUU----

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the hearts of men are black with corruption and must needs be cleansed

Back to tree planting

[Charisma 100%] Threaten violence

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Somebody give me the 411 on this game and whether or not to buy it.

Do not open this image.

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There's an enemy that burrows into the ground that will show you how bad your party is at fighting.

>Zap a motherfucker with stasis
>Increased 50% dmg on next hit
>Teammates just stare

What the fuck guys, i'm trying to backline and support with voodoo and all you guys do is stare at monster cocks and DIE

They do it because they don't want to break the cc.

What does a pleb who can't get into cRPGs play?

CS:GO and Dota 2

Are there any legendary ring in the game? If so where, and how much mental do I need to wear them?

I don't know if I'm into warpaint or something, but the painted female natives are all pretty hot

They DO give me GREAT soreness!

what does this mean

Mev kinda does something to me desu.

What!

She's pretty sexy.
>Kurt is scared of her
A woman worth getting.

What DOES this MEAN?!

I am male!

A BIT OF POISON ON MY BLADE

A BIT OF MONSTER COCK IN MY ARSE AND LETS GO

>everyone call Kurt to help with chimes fixing
Truly onii-chan

I THINK he's LEGIT mentally ILL (He is! He is!)

MEV NO

No!

YOUR MAGIC IS RUNNING OUT, TAKE A POTION

What!

What!

>only upcoming modern rpgs are american

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I think shotguns have two shots.

Divine Ring requires 4.

the only rifle ive seen with more than 1 was 'officer's rifle' or sumthing and it had 2 RoF
pistols go up to 6 or 8

Does anything bad happen if I just send brother Virgil away? Why do I get the feeling he'll slaughter the whole expedition if I'm not there to babysit them?

If you want a revolver rifle go play arcanum

No, he comes back later and you'll be there to protecc them

Oh, good. I've done too much for these dummies to let them die now.

The firearm sounds and slowdown on enemy deaths are so on fucking point, it's amazing.

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Just tested this not long ago. 3 of us vs 1 (skull) Bandit. They just stood there waiting for the Stasis to expire (which is not necessarily bad) or simply backtracked (?). Not a pathfinding issues as there was a clear line between them and the target.

>you can sneak attack bats
Nothin personnel

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I want to fuck Mev

Thank YOU user! You ARE a GOOD user!

Why didn't Vinbarr just kill Constantin immediately?

So I'm reading that after level 45 you stop gaining skill points, attribute and talent points. Has anyone done any grinding and know if this is true?

Thanks. Based on this, Pistol DPS must be a clear-cut winner most of the time. Currently, I'm using a 4 RoF rifle and it's day and night compared to a 1-shot.

I'm just trying to figure out whether Rifles justify that 4 skill points or not. I'm uninterested literally everything else on that line, and I'm stacking Accuracy anyway.

What does it matter? I ran out of skills I wanted to get around level 25

I don't get it too. What the fuck is this "muh stone prison" thing

A BIT OF POISON ON MY ARSE

it's not really "bad" as it gives the player what is intended (breathing room to chug a pot or ect)but it just feels a little janky

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More interested about the attribute points then anything else.

>chilling behind some buildings
>combat starts up
>get shot through wall

Well thanks I guess.

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Does anyone else feel like the writing and general gameplay took a jump off a fucking cliff and shit the bed after meeting with THAT tree?

It jumped right after you stepped off the boat user

Kill yourself racist

RENOUNCE

Outside of some general jank and awkward shifts in tone it was generally fun until CORRUPTIONFEST2019 starts in. Everyone suddenly acts out of character, skill checks and crafting solutions are all gone, and everything is heavily railroaded with a handful of generic bosses. Thankfully they all die to gunpowder and steel.

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I see you haven't played DMC

I just realized that the blacksmith in new serene can make any tier upgrade, he just charges you a gold cost on top of mats. Is craftsmanship the worst talent?

My fucking display died the day I was going to play this and my new one will only arrive next week. Fuck me

Only one point. You'll get +1 from the gloves and +1 from friendly Kurt.

I played the earlier ones in my younger days, but DMC5 is still on my backlist. Only got about 30-40% of the way though so far. Did it have a similar issue?

Uhh, I think I've done everything aside from that tree. That doesn't inspire confidence.

I think the game was rushed. I still had plenty of fun leading up to the final bits though

I mean, considering it's still Spiders making it, it's a small wonder the game holds up for as long as it does.

They're getting better I'll give them that much

Aphra's voice is way nicer than I'd expect.

OIII ANONMENAWI

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she even creeps my boy kurt out

I just can hear the guy that sell stuff in the city.

>ARE YOUR BOOTS WORN THROU-
>ARMOR MADE TO ORDA

Are there any easily missable sidequests I should do before doing the Princes Secret main quest?

MAY THE SHADOWS ENGULF OUR ENEMIES

vocaroo.com/i/s0O6rG4ViA5R

every day until you like it

I [ INSIST ] that you shop here - De Sardine

He just wanted to sell shiny stuff to people.

This game is janky as fuck and considering all the bugs I've encountered I wouldn't usually give it a second glance but goddamn there's something about it that keeps bringing me back in. It evokes the same feelings I had when playing the first Mass Effect, maybe Spiders will be able to fill that BioWare shaped hole in my heart now that they've gotten their first big hit. And considering how they improve with each game they release I can't wait to see what they have planned next.

I like that they give De Sardine a pistol for cutscenes, not only is it aesthetic as fuck especially when he executes dudes with it, it also prevents the issue at the tutorial of animations not matching the weapon type. Kurt tossing you a ring and then you acting like you were holding a sword sword was hilarious. It's a nice change of pace from the default swords/murderknives in other games

Who should I support to be the new high king/queen and why?

lmao, there is literally only one reasonable choice and you still have to ask?

You mean Derdre, right?

Is this worth pirating?

Yes. If you like it, please give the devs money so we can hopefully get a sequel or more games like it some day.

Theleme without the inquisition are pretty decent people.

That's kind of the theme of all the factions. They're all essentially good, except them being there brings in the worst of their people.

except ottomans

Nah dude, the Bridgers are all assholes. Aphra is literally the only one who condemns it besides the Governor, and he's either hilariously incompetent, or blatantly flaunting his corruption in your face with bald faced lies.

>made out of science
>still relies on the nauts who are literally only totally dominate because of their magic science

They have their own Mengele

can someone make a vocaroo of the double renagsie line?

I apologise, it seems I forgot I forgot to introduce myself properly.

What's the consequence for sparing The Bridge Alliance spy? The one that shoots the druidess?

During the treason mission is it possible to "arrest" all the leftenants without losing any rep? The one on the top floor doesn't seem to give an option for the recruits to stand down.

If you arrest the left tenants then you miss out on the big guy. arrest the main guy instead of the underlings. it also helps to bring kurt with you. i dont remmeber losing any rep when i was convincing the left tenants to stand down

the cute native mutant with the skull face paint brings it up every time you talk to her. Didn't change my rep at all, I'd just kill him if I did it again, ended up killing him later when he shows up again completely meaninglessly

Is there any negatives about leaving them alive? I already killed the 2 in the basement but i'd rather not lose rep.

Wear a Naut disguise for the third one. Don't ask why.


>If you arrest the left tenants then you miss out on the big guy.
Wrong.

I arrested all of the lieutenants and still got the main guy. -1 coing guard rep from one of them, yes, but I still got to friendly at the end of all of it

wait whot? how come i couldn't arrest the main guy w/o letting the left tenants free? it was either the 3 or the big guy

>Wear a Naut disguise for the third one. Don't ask why.
I tried that, didn't work. Maybe because I read the commander's letter first?

Why do they pronounce lieutenants as leftenants anyway. They're not even natives.

Because they rightfully know that your stasis should only be broken by a big-ass mace to the face or a bullet, both delivered by yourself.

thats how you pronounce it you barbarian

I'd say it depends on what you're wanting out of your gun. If you're wanting big ass burst, then you're going to want a low ROF weapon. Rifles seem to trade less damage for higher rate of fire though, whereas high ROF pistols tend to have significantly less damage per shot than a dueling pistol or such.

How long until sseth releases a vid on this game and Yea Forums suddenly starts to hate it?

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In the end it doesnt matter since the rifle speed tends to speed up when you spam the shoot button.

I dont think this is intended but this clearly makes rifles a win since they pack more dmg per shot and they're more fitting w/ a merchant character anyway.

Oh fuck it's a Europe thing apparently.

How to filter the mentally ill waifufag:
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Fair enough. Though, it seems to me pistols also seem to have a quicker startup, so might mix with melee builds better as an interrupt. Perhaps I could just be imagining that.

My Sardine is a magic gunman though, so I tend to like the lower ROF guns for the big numbers from stasis.

Well, the level design is certainly copied directly from KOTOR, so Bioware feel is there.

>rifle speed tends to speed up when you spam the shoot button

Does it make the char skip the reloading animation or what?

my Sardine is like yours.. I don't even use my main weapon now. I'm wondering if the stat bonus from agility and strength also applies to guns?

yea im not sure its intended. if you press the shoot button one at a time it shows the animation reload but if you spam it, the char just shoots faster. also compare your speed from aphra.

But that also works with high ROF weapons as well. You empty your mag, then spam to speed up the reload, and empty again.

Anyone seen a Legendary / Unique Naut themed armor set yet? It's the only thing im missing.

Too new for sseth. Unless he gets a review copy.

>Cunt Inquisitor
>His very prophet and God prayed the very spirits he calls demon
OH NO NO NO

Absolutely BTFO, I fucking loved that quest

Am I the only one that fucking loves this soundtrack?

No, Olivier Deriviere delivers once again.

Theleme church is basically Islam
>Rich merchant exploit a bunch of retards in making him a Prophet for his own cult to get richer
Except Mattheus stole Magic knowledge the gods of the island gave him and used it for make people depicting him as God

So I finished the aphra recruitment quest and I'm kinda confused why she stuck around. It just went from talking about a remedy to the party formation screen

God damn, this game really is full of Banter.

>I must leave you
>IF ONLY YOU WOULD ALL LEAVE

>I assure you, this is just the handiwork of a few fanatics
>IF THAT IS THE CASE IT'S PROOF OF YOUR INCOMPETENCE INSTEAD OF YOUR GUILT

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When you get legendary merchant set?

>doing the land dispute quest
>talking to the teacher dude, going through his dialogue tree
>"hey whats this option here about a previous colony"
>massive fucking spoilers
God fucking damn it spiders

wenshaveye near the boss

Should i put kurt in coin guard or merchant gear if im trying to keep everyone geared with stuff from their own faction? The only reason i ask is cause his starting armor is merchant not coin guard

You should put him in Commander Set rewarded after finishing the Coin Guard storyline

He's listed as a Coin Guard even on the game's official promo materials. Btw I'm trying to do the same thing, just gave Siora the armour rewarded for achieving Nice relations w/ the Natives plus the legendary Warrior King's gauntlet and boots.

A good crpg with horrible kingdom management.

Not him but what's so horrible about it?

I am De Sardine, Legate of the Congregation of Merchants and THIS is my favourite merchant in all New Serene

>exit game
>computer hangs and lags for several minutes

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any decent inivible armor mod yet? not playing till I can hide the hats and prevent them from clipping thru my hair

>find a good turban
>you now look like a literal dick

literally fucking who

I haven't gone poking through game files yet. Is it easy to rip the music out or are we shit out of luck on that?

Does Petrus even give a fuck about religion? If you take him to see the cave Mattias chilled with the natives he gets all pious, but otherwise he doesn't seem to give a fuck.

Must be RAM or virtual memory, especially if you didn't close all (or most) other programs beforehand. Generally speaking, Greedfall is not that memory hungry (I think it starts around 3.5GB usage) but I noticed that it doesn't always tolerate Alt-Tabbing and multitasking while it runs.

The regular Serene Noble set is actually better. Disappointing.

That shit is revealed pretty much at the beginning. though. This game is weird in that it has no real twists or revelations, but alot of plot points that brought up and not really elaborated on until later.

No need to rely on such solutions, the official OST has already been released.

youtube.com/watch?v=l8r3DsbOAtU

I mean at this point of the game the point of armors is fashion. I could hardly care about stats anymore.

Mix & match for maximum /fa/

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Damn is there any better weapon than naval officer sabre? With upgrades shit is better than any unique weapon

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Why does Petrus give off creepy Uncle Badtouch vibes?

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>Doing the fuckload of quests post-coup
>Everyone is now friendly towards me except Siore who's nice and the FUCKING BRIDGE ALLIANCE who are still suspicious fucks
Seriously fuck those guys

Because he's a priest.

ironic, considering sardine's adoptive uncle was probably a diddler

Is that the real reason why Constantin hates him?

It it true Kurt has never renigged on a contract?

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>tired of wearing starting hat
>don't want to lose intuition bonus

do you have it maxed?
just bring the companion around

just use a mod to cheat a little. i put a few fluff points into shit nobody wants to actually level up.

now i can play the game the way I want to while being able to do that parkour bullshit

try to improve your science game and equip aphra

the bridges look down on uncultured peasants

Bishop Domitius can't catch a break, he keeps getting BTFO over and over again

>nexusmods.com/greedfall/mods/43
neat if you can mod combat to be harder and if it retains companion banter/comments

British English, but yes.

Yes, thet are worse
They are ch*vs

>not wearing armor sets
intuition bonus isnt even that much.
and the intution dialogues highest i've seen is 2.
just keep it in your bag and equip it when you need it

>spiders: we don't support mods guide
>modders: remove entire mechanic from the game
kek

they can't even protect their code well

>Does Petrus even give a fuck about religion
religion is only the source of the church's power, he only craves to control that power

did they really shit on modding itself? or just say they weren't providing tools and whatnot?

i needed a 3 in intuition to convince the theleme govna to reveal the truth about his god native-loving ways

No, they just weren't willing to put the time, money, and effort into actual modding tools.

Is it possible to romance Constantin?

Mother Cardi? There's also a charisma bonus plus the favor she ows you for that

the nauts are not sea gypsis they're spaniards: Vasco, Cabrera and Fernando give it away

how do i recruit Aphra, I'm already at the treason mission and haven't met her yet

it's ridiculous, in Mass Effect you recruited all of your lackeys on the 2nd main mission or so

you have the option to use blackmail too

How do I get Siora to wear a hat? I got a unique hat for natives and I have no need for it

do the other main quest, the bridge alliance expedition quest

you have to do the bridge alliance mission user

>there are retards here who believe the mc is actually named Legate
Your real name is obviously Grinblod, it's like you dont even pay attention

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his name is de and if you don't like that you can go suck an egg

That's a misspelling

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you're mother was a misspelling

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But user..
You missed the joke yourself

yeah thats the joke retard

That's rude you meanie

i'm not wrong though you double renaigse

>calling the Player Character the "mc"
He's not a fucking hip hop DJ.

his entire name is Commander Legate

>double renaigse

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YOU CAN'T USE THAT WORD
IT'S OUR WORD

love me some regex

Is De Sardines the Rin Tohsaka of Yea Forums ?
All she seems to appreciate is old man dick.

Which is idiotic, mods are extremely important for single player games and even more so for RPG. I mean look Skyrim , the game is mediocre at best but with thousands of mods available is still one of the most played and bought games to this day almost ten years later.

Lady Derdre Sky who is going to build a wall and make the illegals pay for it, the honest merchant Ullan from your own clan and best ally, or Dunncas the hippie tree hugger ?

yeah.. Kurt, Petrus, his professor, the list goes on..

i mean i guess its just not their focus atm.. really hoping we get a sequel at least.

I don't think I have felt as comfy in a game since Dishonored.

I'd pay good fucking money to have game set on the continent. Hell, even just in Serene - the tutorial area is so well done that when I got to the island and realised I didn't quite like my character's look, I restarted and actually enjoyed it more a second time.

Even played Mars: War Logs before getting GF and there is just something about SPIDERS that just oozes atmosphere no matter how bad the quality

Is there a list of ending slides yet? I'm pretty sure I did everything the "good" way but I'm not sure about Ullan's ending, but he was pretty bad so him resigning might be the good ending for him.

You can get the best ending picking Ullan if and only if all your teammates and factions like you

Otherwise pick the hippy

The hippie tree hugger for an unlimited lifetime supply of free DUDE WEED LMAO

So which other spiders games are good?Are they are all more linear than this quest-wise?

Continent would be neat, but I think it would be interesting for them to go with the colonialism theme in other scenarios. Have the Congregation go to the Far East and try to get the nation to open up their ports for trade, for example.

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Like as in friendly ?

I know, it's just that thinking about what it could've been is disheartening. More quests, more weapon, more NPCs, more zones, more everything, sex mods .

Does Congregation rep do anything?

you need it for best ending

I dropped this after 20 hours. It's a solid 7/10 but it started showing its limits.
>win every fight with a bomb
>copy paste buildings and interiors
>npcs that just stand there looking at the walls
>too linear character progression
The story didn't hook me up so I had no reason to keep playing.
This title was a good thing for the devs though, it will give them notoriety and they will probably receive an offer from some big publisher for their next game.

Is anyone else experiencing these issues? I also get random lag spikes, sometimes when out in open areas, sometimes when opening menus, sometimes when the game switches camera angles during conversations. I don't know if it's a problem with the game, or something wrong with my machine. There's no way this game is that resource intensive; isn't it a Unity game?! I didn't even have this many problems with Batman: Arkham Knight, a game that was notoriously unoptimized.

I've noticed having nothing else open helps A LOT

Turn down cloth physics too. Every time I turned around the game would stutter

>tfw I find out I accidentally sold my intuition hat

youtube.com/watch?v=TRXdxiot5JM

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is my game bugged or am i missing something

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I'm just at the part where Constantin goes missing. I know he plays the part of the useless loudmouthed fool, but pre-sickness he was endearing like a clumsy pup trying its best and watching his despair during the sickness is genuinely heartbreaking. I've already been spoiled on the ending and I just know this is going to hurt my soul isn't it?

>found an exact clone of my de Sardine in one of the native villages

Spooky

>no way to save your cousin

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they weren't lying when they said you look like them

your legate is basically an ascended NPC, special by accident of birth

>nearly %90 of your dialogue is predetermined
It all makes sense
I wish they had the budget to get more voicelines done so you would get to choose flavor text in all dialogues like mass effect and shit

Is it possible to romance Constantin?

Only if you are able to headcanon the rest of the ending in 1 of the endings

That one is made up, yes. Ask the professor guy with the camp quest.

Is this game worth 69.95 dollarydoos? I just bought a house so money is kinda tight but my backlog is unappealing.

It's French, actually. You guys picked it up when Normans were gangbanging your women.

[Alt+236]

I wouldn't say it's worth that much. 30$ max

i'd wait for a sale, but I would definitely get it at some point

All we all in agreement that the Congregation of Merchants are the most based of the three powers on the Continent?

Well I've still got ELEX for a janky ARPG I guess but I've gotta admit a lot of things about it are bugging me. Only two hours in though.

Finally beat it yesterday. 60 hours with literally ALL sub quests and map clearing. Seems like Dedra as yass queen is not canon and I plan to make a Dankus a king.

It doesn't improve. You can surpass the jank by eventually becoming an unkillable demigod, though.

But it gets dropped to Suspicious not long before the end.

They're neutral and mostly contract-based so i guess so?

>arabs went on the island guns blazing and managed to piss off the locals for numerous reasons
>Theleme's moderates are okay but fanatics are idiots
>coin guards have all sorts of fuckery going on for them and only the old guard is good
>natives can be sly backstabbers as well
>Nauts trade favours for children
Yes.

Is it good ?
Does it fill the void somewhat?

is there any point to completing the notice board missions?

Wait a bloody second
Storm's version of Stasis receives all positive modifiers from upgrading the normal Stasis?
Does this extend to the stasis grenades too?

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Should I have questioned Aidan on Constantin and Catasach's disapperance? I want to know if this will have an effect of some sort. I chose to go to the bridge camp first since its neraere

No. They’re poorly executed

What's gonna happen to the Nauts once everyone discovers they literally use tools? I'm assuming the Bridge Alliance would've found a way to navigate the seas since they're all science and shit.

I was actually hoping they were using some kind of water bending. Though kidnapping babies seem abit much but if thats how they reproduce then fine

As soon as Aphra was introduced I gave her a native mask to cover up her ugly mug, no way I'm the only one.. r-right?

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You are the only one because any sane person would just sack her
Also
>wojakposting

Based. Didn't see wojak I feel retarded now desu

that would involve spending gold
i just left her at the camp/estate

the nauts are a glorified child prostitution ring

nexusmods.com/greedfall/mods/43
LETS GO

But that's not coin guard

How the fuck am I supposed to know what quests to do at my level? The skull marker doesn't help for shit when the enemies turn hostile the moment combat starts.

just run user

most enemies won't follow you more than 20 feet

No I mean quests that culminate with killing an enemy and they turn out to be skull level. I'm clearly doing stuff out of the intended order when this keeps happening but how am I supposed to know?

More like Aphro

Male de Sardet's first name is Guillaume

i did her quest for the science bonus and experience, but she is to stay out of sight and talk only when spoken too from them on

It's actually Mi-Cha'ld.

I WAS GONE FOR 10 MINUTES

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I'd imagine between the dependency people had on them already, their vast experience as sailors/shipwrights, and basically having their claws in every nation due to the child trade treaties they'd still be fine. And besides knowing they use these tools and you yourself knowing how to use these tools is a whole different matter, then again the bridge alliance in-game are kinda morally bankrupt so maybe they'll break a naut to figure it out.

i was actually thinking after ships the nauts would be the one to discover air travel and become aeroNauts. maybe in a sequel where we play as constantin's bastard son or something.

How did this game do in sales btw? Enough for a sequel?

What if the reason all the Governors' palaces and Coin Guard Barracks are all the same is because there's an architects guild everyone contracts out to like the Guard and the Nauts?

After walking into the barracks in New Serene I thought it was actually a nice touch that the layout is the same - why wouldn't you replicate the original design in a new colony?

Question: do these kind of talents require both paths leading to them or just one or the other?

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Just one

I'm going to Vinbarr's sanctuary and I'm still suspicious on Bridge Alliance. Are there any quests I can do for these? What's the scientist house in Hikmet for? How can I obtain that quest?

nexusmods.com/greedfall/mods/33

Thanks.

Thanks but I don't like cheating.

you need to romance aphra. dont worry you can pump and dump

It would have to be mainly theleme for the Portuguese-vibe and religious divide.

user it's not giving you free points, just more freedom on what to spend them on

Americans can't do eurojank because it's 90% soul and bugmen don't have one.

has anyone noticed these

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>He hasn't heard the term Eurojank before
Eurojank are games that typically come out of European countries that have AA game budgets with AAA aspirations so they end up with less polish "jank". the term mostly refers to the hundreds of European platformers from the 16-bit era that failed to compete with Japanese and American mascot platformers

a tryst on your doorstep
how unsightly

These faggots are making annoying sounds in my house. Worse than thousand Ullans

Really makes you think

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Same energy

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How the fuck do I bind this key? Does it have a default that for some reason can't be rebound if reset? I don't want to redo all the binds but this is really annoying.

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Default should be MMB. I ran into an issue where the game wouldn't let me rebind the default key as either Primary or Secondary if I got rid of it while rebinding.

How much does faction reputation matter? I'm friendly with everyone except the bridge alliance who just slipped back into suspicious again due to being backstabbing cunts again.

Do you know what it's called in the settings menu/what else MMB does by default?

Not that user but its also used for locking on to a target and is labeled as such in the settings. Can't seem to find a separate keybind for it either so it might just be the same one for both of them

My new key for target lock didn't work and rebinding it to MMB didn't work either but after resetting and putting my preferred key for target lock to secondary it works now. Thanks gang.

Much

Dammit. They're really making it hard for me to side with them at well anything they do.

Do Asili's quest and don't kill him.

Can I somehow change my character's appearance in the game? I'm tired of starting over with new characters, they are always a little bit ugly. Save edit?

>"Something is wrong, normally you would hear birdsong in this area
>birdsong plays during this entire sentence

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>cast storm
>even the bile projectile of the tenlan is stuck in midair
Based af.

>then explode yourself and kill everything that's still alive with fists
Magic is the best in this game.

>Stasis bonuses extend to Storm stasis too
>can lazily gun down the entire battlefield afterwards one after another

Stasis abusing rapier and gun wielding de sardet is canon desardet

>patch comes out
>stasis doesn't work for bosses anymore

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Honestly this game is fucking great. It took me a while to get into it simply because it's been so long since I played a game like this but it really reminds me of pre ME2 Bioware. The dialogue writing isn't always super, it's a bit wordy and you often listen to conversations where you know exactly what people are going to say (yet worry that you are wrong and might miss something if you skip), but as a whole the story, themes and characters are very engaging. It misses a few things from its obvious inspirations like inter-companion chatter. Who you choose to accompany you is for the most part inconsequential it seems.

More like cringe desardet.

Bosses can barely be put into the stasis already
It works for like 3 seconds
The most important thing is the crystallization debuff.

Well it was enough all right. I hate these people but at least I'm friendly with all factions now

Hey, man, the Bridge isn't all that bad. Remember all those genuinely nice and helpful people, like... uhh...

It's enough to make a shot with applied crystallization debuff.

just stab them a bunch

Errm...

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magic is broken, just spamming everything into a living death by level 10

after experiencing island ottomans the alchemist in the prologue seems like a fuckin saint

It honestly feels like the only sensible named people in the Bridge are Aphra(whos worst crimes are invading sacred spaces and pointing a pistol at your face) and the white scientist in the prologue who genuinely tried to avoid the shitty experimentation the other bridge scholars were doing

Almost everything is "broken". Normal difficulty is simply much too easy

>Aphra "(to Mev) JUST GIVE ME A FUCKING FORMULA" from BA
>sensible
I mean, she's better than most, but it still shows.

Can we all agree that peepee poopoo googoo gaga.

Magic is broken in a very fun way. You can deal huge damage as a warrior or a gunner, but as a mage you're a teleporting kung-fu demigod on top of it.

>the white scientist
He was still selling literal snake oil and profiting from your tragedy. Fuck him.

Speak native please, renaigse.

-Not-imprisoning him affects something or not? And what if i say truth to that evil mustafa who gave the quest?

Which is also refillable without any gardening

Hard is easy too. They just kill you in 2 hits

I have beat the game, played 40h, maxed out Technical tree, as Bomb Sniper with coated swords, and I have absolutely no idea what rate of fire even does or what reload animation you are talking about.
The only delay with shooting is the shooting animation itself.

Same for extreme

Don't think the prologue choices affect anything, no. Makes sense, considering how far you are from the mainland, but it's also hilarious since there's maybe a dozen choices in the whole game.

Okay sorry, let me reword it for you.
Unga bunga ooga booga ugg ugg poopoo peepee googoo gaga

I don't speak Bridge Alliance.

My theory is that the bridge people in Serene are generally ok guys. But on the island are just the dicksheads that went off WE GONNA KICK SOME NATIVE ASS JIHAD VULT.

>prologue choices affect anything
And what about arms smuggling? Guys from my native board say it must be affecting something. At least you get your little piece of reputation.

Not really. When you ask Aphra about their universities, it suddenly all makes sense. They're raised to be cold-blooded backstabbers.

Nope, I was shocked as well

Based Nauts

If it affects anything, I wouldn't know. Doubt it, though. You can't prevent you-know-what anyway.

How exactly does the ordo luminis function if the main theological leadership doesn't agree with them? Are the cardinals just separate from the order so they can say "n-no we don't support this, they did it behind our back" and then no matter how hard ordo luminis infringes on their rulers terms, they go scott free, and the theocracy can feign clean conscience?

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The only thing affected by the prologue is rep I think.

It's a shame about this games balance, because with tricky animations and more humanoid enemies, it could be genuinely engaging.

Where do you think lord turban stole his strategy from.

pretty sure inquisition is like their inner anticorruption agency and doesnt have to report what they do exactly

They are rebuked by the cardinal several times for going behind her back with the implication that they are under her authority.

yeah but thats after you bring in proof that theive been going absolute retard

But they are never punished, how do we know cardinal actually is against it and not just doing her pr function?