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Soundtrack tends to be better tho.
name 1 game with choice and consequence
also name 1 wrpg without generic artstyle
>name 1 game with choice and consequence
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Yeah nah fuck that. Name 1 game with actual NPC interaction
>shitty artstyle
>choice and consequence
>subjective
>not inherently a bad thing
>just the early ones
>not inherently a bad thing, plus there are ones where you can
>Shin Megami Tensei says hi.
>what the fuck does this mean is what i would say if a cared
This recent stigma against JRPG’s is becoming very fucking noticeable.
We are in a golden era where we are getting a lot of good shit other people either missed out on and without getting cucked to region exclusives.
I blame Dunkey, and Arlo, those faggots are in the hive mind of casuals who pretend they know JRPG’s because they Paper Mario and Undertale
your opinion is like my opinion but shitty
>shitty artstyle
>implying that western RPG have an artstyle that is not generic fantasy
>implying modern WRPG have choice and consequences
>implying modern RPG have meaningful NPC interaction
>implying character creation is a good idea
Bump
Its more or less that the general gaming hobby is more accessible now, and the average joe likes twitch shooters, brs, open worlds, and loot simulators much more than jrpgs
Factually correct
Only people who think jRPGs are good RPGs are incel weaboos
Wrpgs are just shitty Tolkien ripoffs...
fact
though i’d argue a lot of “jrpgs” are just low budget action games now
>dumb jrpg fag can only think in terms of setting and plot, too mush brained to see all the ingredients of a game
>makes sense because jrpgs have no gameplay
It upsets me that Secret of Mana 3 is finally get a full fledged 3D remake that’s better looking than the first remake but fags are throwing it away because they don’t know or care why it’s fucking cool.
Xenoblade remaster will also be the first time the game won’t be handicapped by hardware and will get all the unused content
they’re throwing it away because the first remake was fucking awful
Wasn't it revealed that all these posts came from one redditor?
Don’t forget faggots who say more JRPG’s need to be like Persona 5
Yeah but you don’t need to be a fucking scientist to see how much better the remake looks by the visual design and shits on the first game’s remake attempt
it’s because we’re not in the 90s anymore and it’s easier to make a game with both story AND gameplay without the need to be reduced to menu selection battles. Also japan has since lost its ability to write so the one thing jrpgs had going for them doesn’t even apply anymore
>>shitty artstyle
>>implying that western RPG have an artstyle that is not generic fantasy
Yea, lots of them do Without even going into scifi, we have games like Arcanum, Planescape, and Vampire, which are all infinitely more interesting than inconsistent kitchen-sink waifu fantasy
>>implying modern WRPG have choice and consequences
They do. Greedfall, Divinity OS, most recently. Play something other than skyrim you casual.
>>implying modern RPG have meaningful NPC interaction
They do, see above.
>>implying character creation is a good idea
Character building is the entire point of a rpg so it’s hilarous you think an extension of this is a bad thing.
why are wrpgfags so insecure
you don’t need to be a scientist to see that it’s being made by the same retards as the first. Trailer that’s nothing but long special move animations doesn’t help. The visuals are the least of the first remakes concerns
I see you're changing your style redditor
kill yourself weeb
This or they're generic sci fi.
Beep thread
Why are fatfucks westfags obsessed with character creation?
which games?
because dungeons and dragons, which many wrpgs are based off of, was based around character creation and character building, so the inclusion of the feature is the inclusion of actual pen and paper RPG mechanics, which is something everyone but JRPG fans want in an rpg
why do jrpg fags call visual novels and action games rpgs
>Character creation
>Good
Yeah I too love having a bland protagonist without any personality
d&d mechanics only fit for board games,not computer games
Why not? This is a type of role-playing game after all.
>JRPG vs WRPG thread
>The only WRPGs mentioned are ones made ~20 years ago
Just admit it, Western games have been shit for decades.
> shitty art style
generic anime is a thousand times more visually interesting than generic gritty art where everyone looks like they smeared dirt onto their face
> linear story
If a wRPG actually had the resources to have a nonlinear story, it would blow them all on graphical and systematic improvements instead.
wRPGs don't have nonlinear stories. They have a bunch of "choices", all of which put you onto routes where the writing is zero-effort trash. Because it would be a waste of time to devote any real resources to something one in a thousand players will come across.
The only things that are SOMETIMES well-written in wRPGs are the things that every player will come across eventually, assuming they follow the content.
> dumbed down turn based mechanics
It's not "dumbed down" if you develop at roughly the same time but don't follow a retarded trend. Like, for instance, managing ever larger parties, with ever larger selections of useless attack options.
> character creation
I prefer it when the protagonist is allowed to visually fit in with the rest of the cast, even if they're a blank slate.
> choice and consequence
see my notes on linearity
> actual npc interaction
see above
jrpgs are like wrpgs but with cute girls
dnd is even better on the computer because it does the calculations for you. The benefit of dnd in person is that the conversations and interactions can evolve in more ways, not that you personally roll the dice and solve equations.
It had no rpg mechanics, or gameplay mechanics for that matter. That’s why it’s called a novel
>rpg thread
>no jrpgs are mentioned because they are not rpgs
Huh?
Ever since graphics started getting really good, the JRPG scene has gained one thing that's fucked it all up:
Anime tits and ass.
Now that games can be judged on their inclusion of T&A, they no longer need to challenge the player and offer a meaningful experience.
A huge amount of JRPGs nowadays have reduced to nothing but waifu vehicles.
Because dead genre
>responding seriously to a Beep thread
greedfall was released like a week ago
>wrpgs dont have shitty artstyles, linear story or dumbed down mechanics
>wrpgs dont have a lack of choice and consequence
based retard
Imagine thinking trash life Fallout and Deus Ex have good gameplay compared to Ys, Bloodborne and Monster Hunter.
JRPGs are universally terrible.
>b-but le “classic” JRPG!
It’s shit too.
JRPGs are like WRPGs but better.
cRPG is the true master race.
wRPGs are like jRPGs but with:
-a shitty setting
-overly convoluted mechanics, while ambitious, don't make for a fun game
and a lack of:
-unique character designs
-a focused narrative
-an identity outside of Tolkien-esque generic fantasy
this is your brain on anime
Lol
Why are western only cucks so insecure? Imagine caring about the origin of a game
this
THIS THIS THIS
UPVOTE HAHA
Imagine actually buying western games when it's been clear for decades that western publishers would slit their mothers' throat for a nickel.
b-but jrpgs have le ebin cartoon girls I can coom to and spam this board with
>Arlo
>REEEEE WHY IS THERE SO MANY PORTS AND REMAKES OF GAMES I DONT CARE ABOUT
>REEEEEE GIVE ME A PORT OF PIKMIN 3 AND #REMASTERTTYD
Hello beepzorz
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So basically wRPGs are better because they have bigger budgets?
"Choice and consequence" is a marketing term and doesn't actually exist.
Dunkey still hasn’t explained why he lied about the snail
WRPGs; you play a campaign with basic intreractions in a bland openmworld
JRPGs; you play an already existing campaign, where the gameplay is tightly designed based on the actions previous players made
kill yourself
tfw I like all of those games but also modded Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 are my favorite video games ever
WRPGs are JRPGs but with
>trash Tolkien ripoff setting
>empty open world with filler side quests
>forgettable music
>generic "realistic but will age badly in 3 years" artstyle
>TONS of bugs and jank
and a lack of
>originality in world building
>good boss fights
>memorable moments
excuse me real rpg coming through
>there will never be an RPG that allows you give your character personality traits which completely change the dialog and even the options you can choose
how come when jrpg fans criticize jrpgs it's mostly about gameplay issues or hating on certain characters but when wrpg fans criticize jrpgs it's autistic shit like not being able to customize your character's haircut?
ROLed and RPGpilled
beepzorz thread, he's too embarrassed to use his original images now
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But typically vastly better gameplay
>wrpgfag seething about jrpgs thread #45172
if wrpgs are so good why arent they made anymore
Daily reminder this is one JRPG autist falseflagging to get people to shit on WRPGs.
That already exists though?
Is it still JRPG if it's made by westerners in RPG maker?
Because nit picky and knack 3 have a little something to feel like batman xD
Dunkeyfags are some of the most brainless drones that I’ve ever seen
Depends, are they in japan or not?
What exactly is so horribly and evil about classic menu-based RPGs?
There's nothing evil, but is it fun?
>you like something that triggers me you are buzzwords buzzwords
You sound exactly like the sjws and tumblrites you constantly rage against.
Yes
Fair enough, I just see JRPG gameplay as a vessel for the story more than anything else. t. I enjoyed LISA fairly recently
what game