Why aren't Japanese Devs getting getting on the Cyberpunk train yet? I want my AAA Open World RPG Ghost in the Shell game NOW.
Why aren't Japanese Devs getting getting on the Cyberpunk train yet...
Lincoln Richardson
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Ryder Cruz
I want a SWAT game based on that but you play as Section 7 instead.
Carter Thomas
FF7 is Cyberpunk.
Juan Thompson
>Open World RPG Ghost in the Shell game
sounds good.
Grayson Brooks
It's more Dieselpunk
William Martinez
>deiselpunk
>no deisel to be found anywhere
>energy source is instead some bullshit magical mcguffin
No, it's not. If Midgar being a dystopian megacity with robots and shit didn't tip you off, Jenova should have.
Juan Garcia
Jenova is an alien though
Jason Allen
ive only watched a bit of stand alone complex but gits seem rich with content to build a game around. i like the cyberpunk aesthetic and gits:sac gets it right with a cool looking future world with interesting technology and characters. get to it, japs
Carter Barnes
And?
Noah Gomez
It's aesthetic is dieselpunk, not the fucking power source.
Luke Smith
The aesthetic is clearly cyberpunk. Do you have eyes?
Liam Cruz
the funny part is fossil fuels do exist in their universe but it's some long-lost but still superior form of energy people had forgotten about until Cid uncovered an ancient airship.
Ryan Flores
You dont have to specifically have the namesake energy source to be in the aesthetic. It's not really cyberpunk, it's like someone ripped off Eberon Magi-tech and mixed it with Dieselpunk.
Bentley Price
>totally not cyberpunk
>dark gloomy futuristic city with Neon lights, and a strong class seperations
>nope, not cyberpunk
It's cyberpunk blended with high fantasy, but still cyberpunk.
Jonathan Turner
Cyberpunk has been dead for like 20 years
Andrew Butler
LOOK AT HOW NOT CYBERPUNK THIS IS GUYS!!
Julian Sullivan
Not only that, but the entirety of FF7 remake part 1 is in Midgar
I don’t give a shit about your akshully bullshit, it was clearly inspired by Cyberpunk and Cyberpunk is clearly what the devs intended. It has Cyberpunk themes and tropes, and Kitase himself said that Midgar was supposed to be Cyberpunk, whether they actually created the game with the Cyberpunk genre faithfully is another question but if they say it’s based on Cyberpunk then it’s based on Cyberpunk no argument
Logan Carter
Open world high fidelity RPGs with customizable protagonists are a western thing. Japs don't have the budget for that most of the time.
Austin Brooks
Oh, the zoomer is talking about the Remake. I thought you meant the original one.
Owen Green
Maybe the first 5 hours
Daniel Ward
It was inspired by 90s anime Cyberpunk, not western 21st century Cyberpunk
Thomas Cook
looks like a normal city with that huge thing in the middle
Josiah Williams
Not only that, but Deiselpunk is more like Mad Max, and REQUIRES by genre definition that Deisel be the primary energy source. Deiselpunk is basically Steampunk, but replace steam with deisel, and clockwork with Desert Punk Rock aesthetic.
Cyberpunk on the other hand doesn't rely on an energy source for the aesthetic. The primary angle is the class division, and a futuristic dystopian and gloomy cityscape. Both of which are present in FF7
Hudson Allen
I mean't with a set protag. That being Major herself
Jason Martin
That’s not even official art
Thomas Gonzalez
GitS isn't really for open world format. GitS game would fit more on a level based stealth game like Metal Gear Solid.
Hunter Cruz
The original was Cyberpunk too. You'd know if you played it.
You don't get to call me a Zoomer, when you don't know what defines Cyberpunk and Deiselpunk.
Still Cyberpunk.
If you'd played FF7, you'd know that Shinra is on the top disk of Midgar, and that the city is layered on top of itself.
Aiden Russell
Hell, the genre is so broad that even Lain is considered Cyberpunk
Grayson Watson
>GitS
Nah
>Akira/Megacity 23
Now we’re talking
Carson Mitchell
>fit more on a level based stealth game like Metal Gear Solid
just reskin metal gear rising.
Juan Kelly
Why did zoom zooms suddenly obsess over cyberpunk? Was it because cyberpunk = blade runner memefaggotry was so potent now every bored kiddie replicates the format with slight variations?
Jonathan Peterson
People need to understand that cyberpunk is not "neon rain city" but story about politics, transhumanism, mega corpo and religion concern about human body/machine, they souls and how humanity is changind using they own creation. Its not just, hurr durr neon and rain. Its only background god damnit.
Nolan Price
Astral Chain is pretty Cyberpunk
Evan Fisher
Cyberpunk NEEDS a city to be Cyberpunk, but the stylization of that city doesn't need to be so strictly defined. The idea that hurr durr FFVII isn't Cyberpunk cause "it's not a MEGACITY stylized like Akira or Bladerunner," is retarded and thoroughly limits creativity. I mean, Midgar is an incredibly imaginative city within the Cyberpunk genre.
I mean, Matrix is Cyberpunk as well, but a gloomy rainy city with Neon Lights isn't even the backdrop. It's regular city in modern times, with the future being ABSOLUTE decay run by machines, and tiny little spaceship thing for the majority of the setting.
Ethan Phillips
>Ghost in the Shell
Ugh..? Gay! Though I admit its aesthetic could be nice in a vidya.
Eli Green
>The original was Cyberpunk too.
He says as he post the most diesel punk city on the game. You don't know shit, m8.
Jonathan Torres
my checklist for cyberpunk content:
-rainy
-neon light
-futuristic city
Jeremiah James
What he means is the extremely specific type of Cyberpunk like Bladerunner, Ghost in the Shell and of course 2077. The type most familiar and attributed to what defines Cyberpunk.
Ayden Nguyen
People who think that's all that constitute cyberpunk need to stop being such plebs and expand their tastes and exposure. Cyberpunk isn't so narrow, and several Japanese games exist with that aesthetic.
That's like, basic bitch tier level of understanding of what Cyberpunk is.
Cameron Hughes
GITS is overrated.
Isaiah Wood
even so it would make a good game setting.
Isaac Johnson
cyberpunk isnt about the aesthetic you pea brain
Nathan Gomez
It is. Aesthetic conveys theme you stupid moron.
Jayden Baker
many good things are overrated, that does not make them worse though.
Josiah Baker
the vast majority of the games were not in this aesthetic, but i will grant you that the remake is, yes. That's cyberpunk, No, final fantasy is not generally a cyberpunk game.
Nolan Flores
Hell yee
Adam Jones
Synthwave was a mistake.
Nolan Smith
No, Final Fantasy isn't. The first 5 are hard High Fantasy.
VI is where it started to get experimental. Not sure where to place that, but it was a blend of Deisel and Steampunk mixed with Fantasy. Tbh, I haven't played this one yet, so I'll leave the labelling to people who have. But that's where the shift happened.
VII took it one step further, and mixed Cyberpunk specifically with Fantasy.
Then VIII was weird.
And from there, the rest of the series decided to blend Fantasy with various levels of Sci-Fi Aesthetics.
I believe XII was the one that was very Steampunk Fantasy.
And idk what to say about X, it was just Sci-Fantasy, kinda like VIII, but with a strong Oceanic theme/aesthetic running through the whole thing.
Jose Jenkins
here's your cyberpunk
James White
Oh yeah, I wanted to add, but forgot to cause I got too caught up.
FF as a whole isn't Cyberpunk, but VII most defnitely is, yes, even the original. Not just the remake.
Nathaniel Watson
I wonder if there's stuff you can do in some of those buildings
Angel Bennett
How the fuck would GITS work as open-world? You open-world niggers are retarded
Aiden Wright
Play Ruiner.
Gavin Hernandez
Is it good though?
Gavin Sullivan
would be good since japanese devs would actually make it cyberpunk themed, instead of just pretending like You Know Who
Juan Baker
It's the only twin stick shooter I liked.
Tyler Gray
Japs don't care about western garbage and neither should you