Games have always been political, sweetie

>games have always been political, sweetie
Reminder that if you unironically believe that the themes of war, geopolitics, transhumanism, world economics and philosophy featured in the likes of deus ex and mgs are in any way comparable to the tired postmodern-esque gibberish of diversity quotas and queer pandering, then you're a fucking retard.
Politics in games are compelling and interesting when they produce something like Morpheus's conversation with JC. Politics in games are cringe when they shove niggers and fags so that kotaku can farm clickbait articles.

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today's politics in games can be barely understood by anyone who isn't american or spending too much time online

>Politics.in vidya are based if they agree with me

Yes we know /pol/

>If you believe that actual political themes are political and just having gay and black people in your game isn't you are dumb
hmmm

>there's no agenda in "first woman president"
>there's no agenda in "equal representation
>there's no agenda in "diversity"
>there's no agenda in "inclusivity"
Ok retard

Deus Ex director and driving force Warren Spector is an old school liberal. The game does not "agree" with you, it just presents a world of Cyberpunk fantasy that allows you to interact with.

The difference between classic political games and the modern ones is that the new ones are used as Political Soapboxes.

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>deus ex, metal gear solid
politics
>ms. pac man, gone home
not politics

learn the difference

>taking deus ex seriously

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OH YEAH YEAH PH YEAH YEAH

Well some of the theories are true, stuff about the FEMA protocols, trilateral commision, employment/tax rates, the political influences of big companies, and degradation of the EU. And some theories have already been around for decades, like the illuminati. While deus ex might not be exactly the most authentic platform for this stuff it still serves as a warning for the future we are heading down.

Deus Ex has lots of things that most right leaning and even center people here would disagree with, and if you think otherwise then you weren't paying attention.

Talk about going off his fucking rocker.

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Warren didn't write DE though, there isn't much info on the guy who did. Not that I think it's writer was secretly a based motherfucker or anything.

Didn't the writer write a book about some fucking genius tyrone taking on big pharma, sounded pretty fucking woke to me, shame that DX was so fucking on point about the big things.

As long as you say you don't want game to be "political" you are doing a disservice to your cause, since that vagueness will be exploited by dishonest agents (like all leftists are).

The term you should use is "propaganda". You don't want games that are just propaganda.
"The young Pope" and "God is not Dead" are both shows that have Christianity as the core theme of the show, but one is propaganda while the other isn't.

The only bad idea here is gun control.

True, it should be a total gun ban, with all gun owner getting life in prison without parole. Maybe then you gun peasants will actually bother staying in shape and learning neat things like martial arts and knife throwing.

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Yeah, but Deus Ex is fun, redditlands is not

Deus Ex was right about jews

Enjoy your bombs and stabbings and more shootings instead

Sonic the fucking hedgehog was an environmental game by design.

>Dr Robotnik is a slightly radical representation of all humanity and the impact humanity is having on nature. In 1991, it was a very sensitive subject to talk about the environment and while I had my viewpoint, I did not speak of it. With Sonic, I was given an opportunity to express my views in a different way and did so, showing Robotnik using pollution and creating machinery which desecrates the environment and it is down to Sonic to change his ways.

It has literally always been there.

>Yep, that's how it works in every other country, more shootings and bombs, not less. Hey can we get some statistics to confirm this! What's that? The school shootings alone would ruin this? U-Uuuh, H-HAVING GUNS IS BETTER WE DON'T NEED NO PROOF!

Not true but a lot of it is also the wording
>medicare for all
Yeah that's just going to cost taxpayers mountains because of how fucked that shit is already, they need to do something better than just paying for it
>housing as a human right
I worked for a charity that did this, you don't want to do this, and you can't make this a human right, this isn't a thing you can guarantee anyone
>federal jobs guarantee
Pants on head retarded
>criminal justice reform
Definitely needs work, I can't imagine the ocasio cortez types have any real idea what needs to be done to make this effective
>immigration justice abolish ice
Pants on head retarded, countries that are rich should be able to pick whoever they want
>solidarity with puerto rico
A non statement
>mobilizing against climate change
Plans of action against this are pathetic, private enterprises are already moving to fix this themselves
>clean campaign finance
You can't clean that
>higher education for all
It is available for all, trade school not good enough for most? trades make good money, become a plumber you will always have work and it pays very well.
>womens rights
They have rights
>support alphabety spaghettis
They have rights
>support seniors
They have pensions, they have advocacy groups, they still have voting power, supporting them isn't magical
>curb wall street gambling restore glass steagall
Definitely needed

based and deus expilled

You're fucking retarded m8
You can play sonic all day and not even realise the "environmental themes" present, mostly because it's a kids game where the "politics" are presented with the insightful mind of a 5 y old
There's also a huge difference between talking about the environment and sonic wagging his fingers after each level with a speech bubble saying transwomen are women too or black lives matter or some gay bullshit like that

More of a backdrop as a vehicle for character motivations and it wasn't preachy, they wanted an easily relate able cartoony villain, that's like saying that Mario saving peach is sexist, or even some kind of evidence of patriarchal dominance when in reality it's the most simple story that's prevalent in EVERY SINGLE CULTURE around the world, so it's instantly relate able and understandable to EVERYONE.

Legitimately retarded, intentional homicide rates with firearms are completely unrelated to legal access to firearms, stats back this up, just look at countries with strict firearm control laws with extremely high rates of firearm related crime, the US is the only country where this is not true, however when looking at it by state/county, it becomes true.

Who are you quoting?

switzerland has guns
switzerland doesn't have niggers
go fuck yourself

Deus Ex is a game about a man eating candy bars and drinking 20 bottles of wine all at once.

I dont think you can carry outside of your property but other than that yeah
America has a nigger problem moreso than a gun problem

don't forget smoking crack cocaine and turning into Neo for 10 seconds until you huddle up in a heap of your own vomit in a corner somewhere

Deus Ex was still shitting on capitalism. The conversation with Isaac in Hong Kong proves that by mocking the separation of powers.

>deus ex criticised some view of our alt-right strawman, haha i win
End yourselves, people this retarded shouldn't be able to breathe properly

They do it the entire game you fucking idiot.

Any statistics for this, 100% curious to see.

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The point is it doesn't fucking matter, you can make a Marxist game and if it presents its themes maturely and respects the moral grayness of it all then no one would fucking complain
The problem lies within unashamed intersectionality propaganda designed to excite the little Twitter brainlets
And you don't fucking know me you stupid nigger, why the fuck would you assume I'm some wallstreet diehard capitalist
End yourself

You get mad when people shit talk billionaires, d't you?

>postmodern-esque gibberish of diversity quotas and queer pandering
there's absolutely nothing 'postmodern' about those things you retard, you listened to jordan peterson too much

postmodern is when new things are bad

yes there is
The belief that there is no objective truth and that our communication medium (words) is a man made construct leads to the rejection of notions of "fact" and "objective truth", which is replaced by a new system by which the value of something is determined by it's source. If the source belongs to a privileged class, white male and rich, it's evil. If the source is from an oppressed class, it's good
The communist class war was extended to nearly all aspects of a person's traits and this type of generalization serves as a way to cover up the many holes in this philosophy and let the crazed activists run wild.
Diversity quotas are good because we need more black people in positions of power because black people are good. If black people are not good it's because white people did some wrong to them at some point. More women need to be in positions of power regardless of their skills or qualification but because they're women and women are good.

nice infographic

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what an elaborate strawman, can can you show me some postmodern philosophers who espouse this sort of thought?

Are you sure that you aren't just taking constructivism and adding your own bullshit to it? Because it sounds a lot like you're taking constructivism and adding your own bullshit to it.

go drink some bleach, shit for brains

then:
>"groups of powerful men will use manufactured crises to wrest control from national government bodies and the citizenry to create unaccountable global power structures that will eventually be invulnerable thanks to the development of godlike artificial intelligence"

now:
>"praise be unto google, long live zuckerberg, glory to globalism, and death to the nazis!"

it's gonna be a bad century, isn't it?

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absolute kino post

A writer explores a topic and then arrives at a conclusion, a propagandist writes a story for the explicit purpose of arriving at a predetermined conclusion.
As already stated itt, Spector is a leftie but Deus Ex has no inherent biases while shit like Life is Strange 2 is nothing but "Drumpf Bad, Whiteys Bad, Christians Bad, Illegals Good, Homos Good".
It's not about the aligning with my beliefs, it's about the game making me physically fucking cringe because of how blatant it is with it's biases.

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oh booho
who doesn't it shit on

lgbt people

does it have any?

Not in an overt manner but they are not portrayed in a negative light either
And in mankind divided the Australian boss guy Miller is lgbt and he's portrayed as one of the most morally sound characters in the game

>they are not portrayed in a
You just said they're not portrayed. Retard.

Isn't that that disgusting fat sack of shit with a wife that looks like something out of a freak show?

What? TB died like a year ago, mate.

>Left media: Ban Guns
>Left media: Promote mental health

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>"Not inhaling fluorite chemtails is so cringe, you guys!"

Whatever you say, Shilluminati.