Looks like this is shaping up to be the best
season yet.
Hereford is gone
Themepark is Put on Hold
Fortress is also gone (sadly imo)
New Kanal is not too different to be confusing,
but enough has changed to make it a good map.
Amaru is fun for casual trash in comp.
Goym (goyo) is a good addition to the roster
landing in B tier imo.
Big dick vector is also a plus
Thoughts on the new season?
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It's okay. I'm noticing animation bugs and frequent freezes when returning to the main menu but it's tolerable compared to previous seasons.
It's easily the worst yet outside of unranked matchmaking.
>recycled guns yet again
>new ops have boring gadgets, one is literally a capitao bolt taped to a deployable shield
>removal of night maps
>house and plane are out, casual map pool will be way smaller
>dumb secondary gadget changes
>prepping for battle pass bullshit
>dumbing down T-hunt for no reason
>shitty map reworks instead of new maps instead
>more terrible elite skins and making operators look worse to incentivize buying stuff
Siege has been on a downward slope since the start of this season, if not earlier. Ubi's greed and incompetence is killing the game slowly and painfully, and it sucks.
They turned Thermite into a soiboi
>>removal of night maps
this isnt real right? why?
"The biggest change to the map pool, however, is that night mode will no longer be available in the Casual and Newcomer playlists. It will only be playable through Custom Game. Also, Theme Park will be removed from all playlists in preparation for its rework with Season 4."
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>is that night mode will no longer be available in the Casual
But why?
Why don't they stop that Overwatch crap and start making a proper Rainbow Six game?
>Siege has been on a downward slope since the start of this season, if not earlier.
I said this during year one and it's still true.
This is such an obvious shill it actually makes me sick
End of year one was peak probably, mostly because they sorted out most of the critical bugs and added a proper anti cheat. year 2 started the decline though.
Yeah I meant to say end of year one. The Japanese ops were too sci-fi and the Brazilians both unfit for Rainbow but the game felt better.
Because ubisoft. Oh and probably uh... "data limits". Yeah we'll go with that.
New guns? Naw that's too hard for us, we're just going to keep making shitty elite skins you can buy instead, but our "data limits" keep us from designing new guns of course. And licencing guns is hard too! Just ignore the fact that all of the guns in game use fake names so licencing was never part of the process in the first place. You have enough weapons already, stop being an entitled gamer! What do you expect the same quality from new ops when compared to the old ones that you most likely paid for?
Oh and by the way, buy our battle pass too this upcoming season for some sick skins fellow kids!
because mwuh data wimits so theyre turning them off in every mode even casual so its less impactful when they outright delete them later down the line
Okay but can I buy operator skins from previous seasons yet? Or is that still gone?
>removing house from casual
Fuck goobisoft
Are they adding any more fat waifu operators?
Gotta buy em when you can goyim :^)
>"heres your japanese operator bro"
>emo girl in hood
trash gayme
The game is fundamentally different in content than it used to be, and arguably for the worst.
It's far too bloated now and with every decent addition there are at least two negative things to go with it.
>recycled guns yet again
They had a reason of licensing which is weak, but new guns are not too important.
They gave the G8A1 a new life with Amaru, since it was rarely getting used on IQ anyways,
we don't need more bullshit Machine Pistols in the game so reusing the SMG-11 makes sense.
Almost all of the pistols are clones of each other so reusing makes sense.
Its good that they reused the shorty shotty, since i doubt they would've made another eitherway, and she needs it.
I love the Vector to death, but yeah i see that Goym could've gotten a New gun, but big dick vector.
The TCSG12 is BS in a 4,5KG package. And i would like to see it nuked from orbit from both Kaid and Goym.
Again copy paste pistol
>new ops have boring gadgets
What the hell is you definition of a fun gadget? Although Amaru's ability is not too good in ranked,
it does have its uses. Mainly getting into places defense does not expect you.
Drone and if the coast is clear, jump in.
Goym's gadget is a great form of entry and area denial. Yes it's basically Capitao's bolt on a
shield, but its also on defense, making it a tool for area denial instead of a way to flush out players.
>removal of night maps
Half of the combat is inside anyways, only made combat between spawnpeakers and spawnpeakee's less consistent.
>house and plane are out, casual map pool will be way smaller
this is so sad
>prepping for battle pass bullshit
Do like i do, vote with your money, don't buy it.
>shitty map reworks instead of new maps instead
Well they've come out earlier and said that they only have so much space they are allowed to
use on a ps4 or Xbox (100GB) so instead of making new maps and removing old maps
completely, they can rework old maps that aren't getting used / have flaws.
>more terrible elite skins and making operators look worse to incentivize buying stuff.
Allot of the old faces look kinda quirky doe. Hibana was an improvement, valk was an improvement, blitz +100 Arian
Ubisoft never meant to let siege live this long.
It got way more popular then they expected (ubisoft can only make really good games on accident).
You can notice this with every update. The addons constantly break the game. The engine was never meant to do all this shit. Netcode can't keep up (it never really could btw).
>dude let's remove content and replace good maps with shitty redesigns
>dumb redditors: YES! NEW FEMALE OPERATORS QUEEN SLAYYY! NEW RARE COSMETICS! HECKIN COOL!
based as fuck
Dumb ubishill. Defending the outright removal of content and defending the "new" content not being the same standard of old content is ridiculous. They have more money than ever, they can get off of their asses and make some new guns. Stop making excuses for a million dollar company and stop shilling for free.
Also
>just vote with ur wallet bro
You're an idiot my dude.
I used to adore siege but with every update it gets worse. I played since closed beta, and what I played during launch and season 1/2 is not the same as it is now. It is worse, and ubi clearly doesn't know what to do the game anymore. It needs to be left to the community. Or make a sequel if need be.
The ideal would be server and mod support, but Ubi is too greedy to ever do that. Gotta sell those skins bro.
>year one
>you can buy a couple weapon skins if you have some spare renown no lootpack bullshit
>year 4
>MORE WEAPON SKINS, SEASONAL WEAPON SKINS, CHARMS, HEADGEAR, OUTFITS, VIP ELITE SKINS BUT LOOTBO- I MEAN PACKS GOY. ALSO DONT FORGET TO BUY EVER YEAR PASS/BATTLEPASS
>Hibana was an improvement, valk was an improvement
only because they give them elite skins and want waifubab faggots to splash out cash
>night maps? new guns? why would you want those? buy some charms instead, aren't they cute?!
>bombers are too hard for T-hunt, so we just got rid of em too
>I mean we had to remove something to fit those charms in, data limits are tough sooorry :(
i bought siege this year for $10 and it was so bad i immediately refunded it. and this was after years of updates. why the fuck do you think a new one is going to somehow be better?
>getting rid of all the good maps entirely
But why? Fuck this game after year 1. Also If you think nu Canal, Kafe or Hereford is better than the old ones you're fucking retarded.
Is the only multiplayer game out there where the number of available maps actually drops rather than increasing?
Old Hereford was so good. nuHereford is soulless. Kafe is okayish. Haven't played on nuCanal yet.
Probably. And the insane thing is people will actually defend it.
At least in CSGO I can download tons of maps off the workshop if I get bored of the default ones. Siege doesn't even have bots ffs.
Kafe is good still, Canal is too soon (although I prefer old the 'normal' look more, now it looks like a futuristic base.) Hereford though is an abomination. wtf ubisoft, nothing is the same. the old map had good and fun areas, now they threw everything away.
they got rid of bombers because redditors kept asking for a training/practise course, they used t hunt as a replacement but evidently bombers got in the way because they were nice guys trying to inject some fun into their no fun allowed compbab sweatball warmup sessions, and as we all know, no fun allowed, so they just had to go
and modes
soon casual will be bomb only because data limits
Screw this game. When the fuck is MCC coming to pc anyway?
>using ai to warm up
i expect nothing less from reddishitters
Season 3 and 4 have been dogshit, not to mention you litera6can not play ranked unless you're in a full stack because some faggot always leaves when things go south
Well that's because you're in Elo hell. Happens in basically every fps.
if you actually believe that rainbow was better before operation health, you've got some serious case of nostalgia glasses.
esports rank faggotry is killing games
what happened to hopping in a server with some buddies/randos, and fragging each other on a bunch of different maps/gamemodes?
Modern fps games just plain suck, I swear
>removing THE casual maps from casual
>good
So you want every game to be cod?
>doesn't even play the game
I was thinking more akin to UT99/Halo.
pretty sure even CoD is filled with mtx and battleroyale crap too. Also cod has no mods, which I should have mentioned being important to have in games
Well same thing goes for cars, filled with ekstra stuff that purists don't like but most people like. And not being easy to mod, opting to rather have a more refined package.
CoD does have mods, but they are usually focused on zombies or custom game modes isntead of model or texture editing. f.eks Bo3 had a prophunt mod.
Cannot speak for other user but I really liked Plane and House.
But both UT and gaylo have way more content than siege and Siege is about as refined as a polished turd. Your analogy sucks.
>new op's dont have new weapons
>no new maps either just recycled ones
>adding a fucking battle pass
>clearly obvious how little ubi cares about the game anymore
at least i can finally stop playing it after it fully goes to shit. Amaru looks like the dude from karate kid
Was not refering to the removal of maps choice, they do have their reasons for removing maps, but they picked the wrong maps to remove, even if its cyclical.
Was more talking about the shitty rework part. Outside of hereford, kanal, clubhouse and kafe have undergone good changes, that actually make them viable for ranked, instead of being trash.
Rank 150, started playing at Dust line 100% with him
Dont forget
>removing half the maps
>only new maps for several updates are just reworks
Ubi probably gave this division a $10 budget, but honestly this post launch team could have all the money in the world and still ruin the game.
>he likes the reworked Clubhouse, Canal and Hereford
Kill yourself zoomer. You either didnt play the game till year 3 or you were trash at it before they completely reworked the game.
> No new maps.
> Cash shop.
> Battle pass coming soon!!!
> Paid lootboxes.
> 4 (FOUR!) season passes.
> P2W operators
> Horrifically clashing cosmetics.
> Female operators.
> Recycled guns on new ops, yet again.
Utterly disgusting what jews have done to this game.
I really dislike that every area has 973973 doorways and extra hallways now. kinda ruins the claustrophobia when you can just go in any direction when youre in some deep shit from all directions
>pay for game
>still have to grind mllions of hours to unlock characters
>in a competitive game
how is this allowed
Retards keep paying for it.
I forgot to mention that since this update my game has been crashing or freezing more regularly what the fuck did ubi do?
Guess that roamers got pissy or something.
It's like a BEST PIZZA IN TOWN restaurant in a tourist hellhole city. The primary purpose is to sucker new players in, those who have played since beta never noticed the grind
Playing at night for maps was awful for defenders, because it gave attackers even more of an advantage while holding a sightline from a window + ACOG.
Theres nothing wrong with female operators at least most of them are cute.
>IQ
>Alibi
>Mira
>Frost
>Hibana
>>"dumbing down T-hunt for no reason"
I know no one cares about it, but my more casual siege friends play a bit of Thunt, and the changes are retarded. The entire reason for Bombers was to teach new players to aim at the fucking head, or shoot in the back without them seeing you, while also adding a bit of randomness and unpredictability to fucking bots matches. Current Thunt is even more dull now, and it teaches nothing too. I don't care if some fag got mad because a bomber blew him up and quit playing Siege, either flesh it out and make a proper bot mode (maybe add cameras to maps, so we don't have to make custom maps to learn where they are?) or leave it alone.
I don't play this game because I don't like getting ganked up the asshole all the time by people that have studied maps like a korean studying a calculus course
Women are physically too weak to take part in special forces.
they also dont use crossbows, devices that turn them invisible to cameras, poison gas, basically molotov mines or poisonous toxic needles but they are still in the game.
Sacrifices made in order to improve gameplay.
What gameplay improvements come from adding women?
Porn
miss wrote, was trying to exclude hereford from the good reworks list, but didn't format right
>>recycled guns
There are already a fuck-dozen guns in Siege which cover a variety of roles. You can only mildly change the stats on an assault rifle and give it a new model so often. Do you really just want a new gun model even if it has barely any different stats from Assault Rifle #49?
>>new ops have boring gadgets
I don't see how that makes it any less boring from the other trap ops, nor do I see how a grappling hook is fucking boring
>>removal of night maps
If you don't understand why night maps were removed then you have no clue what the fuck you are talking about. Literally the only purpose night maps serve is to make it arbitrarily harder on defenders to spot attackers outside as opposed to daytime. It's nothing more than a handicap that has a 50% chance of appearing per map, and the aesthetic variety does not offset it being an unnecessary pain in the ass for defenders.
>>house and plane are out, casual map pool will be way smaller
If you are starting out with Siege, how can you be expected to familiarize yourself with maps when each round you're placed in a completely different map? When you started out there were probably only 12-14 maps in Casual to begin with anyways. Imagine having to start out with 20.
>shitty map reworks
Hereford used to be an objectively shit map with only one way up from all floors except basement, which made it super easy for attackers to clear out roamers and other surprises by moving from top to bottom with the knowledge that defenders can't possibly get them from above, as opposed to almost every other map in the game which is what made the information game important.
The new hallway at Club connecting bedroom to server room was important to making defending the bedroom objective way less fucking predictable and giving roamers some more reliable rotation routes. Kanal as it is lacks way too much interconnectivity that again makes match in it too predictable, so any changes to this can only be an improvement.
There we go, finally somebody who is not a "they removed something" crybaby.
>If you are starting out with Siege, how can you be expected to familiarize yourself with maps when each round you're placed in a completely different map?
You are the reason why multiplayer games become so fucking casual trash. If you are someone competent enough and got more than 2 braincells and play the game enough then thats not a problem.
im glad plane got removed though fuck that map
They are cutting where they can so they can add more ops because they wanted 100 operators, and to also probably add more guns if they can make the room, just cut out favela
>Do you really just want a new gun model even if it has barely any different stats from Assault Rifle #49?
Yes I do. They look and sound different than the previous guns, and its a good opportunity to represent each country the new operators hail from.
>You are the reason why multiplayer games become so fucking casual trash. If you are someone competent enough and got more than 2 braincells and play the game enough then thats not a problem.
The only way you can learn maps in Siege in the hard way by repeatedly playing them, yet the process is expedited when you have 20 maps to learn at once instead of like, 12. The rate of learning for newbies will be much slower considering how the map you just played won't appear for like another 10 matches.
It's like learning the match-up of a character in Tekken only to never find an online opponent who plays that character for over 20 matches, so you can never put that knowledge to practice.
>Yes I do. They look and sound different than the previous guns, and its a good opportunity to represent each country the new operators hail from.
Alright, I take what I said back. I can respect this.
Instead of removing maps they should just keep doing what they do with the banner you see on the menu that puts you on matches only on the new maps.1-2 matches are enough for me to familiarize a new map.
>Instead of removing maps they should just keep doing what they do with the banner you see on the menu that puts you on matches only on the new maps
They're not removing maps outright, they're only rotating them every month so they will probably be available on said playlist next month. And this map rotation isn't there for people who just want to play the newest map, but for the new players who don't know ANY map to begin with.
Imo they should remove some of the shotguns from the game, and guns that never get used.
The Aug A2
Some of the pistols
SR25
TCSG12 (i just hate that thing)
and maybe the 6P41
Also allot of the shotties can go.
The FBI, GIGN and frost can share the xm or super 90
The mosberg can replace or be replaced by the supernova, this would also change Ita12 shotty. (not the shorty)
Stop shilling this stupid fucking tranny game, it's been downhill since Y2 and the only reason to play it is that there isn't a better competitive shooter out on PC at the moment, recycled content is boring even if it's under the guise of 'for balancing reasons' which is absolute bullshit, data limits are holding the game back but Ubisoft are more focused on new cosmetics > gameplay improvements.