How about 'Street Fighter?' Oh, yes, you like that one, don't you?

I don't even play Street Fighter, Psycho Mantis.

Blanka

Yes, another fine addition to the gang weed gang.

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tell him i prefer kof and eat second reply's tacos

Based kojima did it again, can't wait for chapter 3

Why was Chapter Two not nearly as good as the first?

Cause it's true to the original TV series.

because the adult half of the book is worse than the kid part

I just saw it. It was okay, mostly non-stop jumpscares. Best part was when beverly went back to her dad's old apartment

The terror posed by a demon clown to children doesn't compare to what an adult feels when confronting the same demon clown
Also the movie focused on humor alot so it cut the tension and toned down the fear

Defeating IT by literally standing in a circle and screaming "YOURE A BULLY!" For the climax of a nearly six hour long story pretty much sums up the entirety of the second halfs writing.

Also, the child actors were actually better actors than the adults they penny pinched on.

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Adults can actually fight back, they did the retarded Henry Bowsers plotline (although the bathroom scene got a good chuckle out of me), and It’s weakness, while being kind of clever and making sense, makes for a cop out kind of climax.

Because there was no kid orgy

wanna hear another?
what do you get when you cannablistic clown in a society that hides from them and treats them like their from the sewer? I'll tell you what you get, BEEP BEEP RICHIE

>it's actually the fucking first Street Fighter
No wonder why this is a horror movie.

>tfw remembering the creepy clown stalkers outbreak that happened right before this movie released
Life was full of fun meme magic 3 years ago.

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The actors did their best and were all pretty likable, but the general premise is just kind of boring. "we remember the thing and then kick the shit out of it" just isn't very compelling.

I still like the first one. It's a good coming of age film wrapped in a horror story

Yes the writer confirmed Pennywise would main Blanka because he says Pennywise would play a more aggressive style.

Writer also said they wanted to use SF2 but it wasn't out yet so they had to use SF1. He didn't mention the MK machine in the movie however even though that didn't come out until after SF2. So odds are WB forced the MK machine in because they want Pennywise in Season 2 of MK11. That or the writer was just pretending to care about the arcade scene and making stuff up during the whole interview because they also failed to mention how Richy was playing against someone using Joe.

Was this scene really necessary?

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>Pennywise
>Capable fighter
Nigga he's only dangerous if people fear him people from the MK world would fucking laugh at pennywise while ripping his dumb clown face off

Joke ruined all the tension. Dude gets stabbed in the face, takes the knife out of his face and stabs the bully in the gut, then tracks a joke about the bully's mullet as he leaves. Or when dude died and right after made a "I fucked your mom" joke. Felt almost like a Marvel movie where they just had to cram a joke into every scene. I liked the jokes so I don't care, but it did change the whole tone of the movie. While not with a joke they even had to change the suicide to be a "happy" take, that jew kid was so brave and smart for killing himself. Died with a smile on his face rather then how the book made suicide seem like a horrible thing and a cowards way out.

I actually felt bad for him at the end of the movie

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could pennywise theoretically be raped if the assailants were not afraid

Didn't know Quentin Tarantino helped to direct the film.

Anyway, that is a believable prank for a kid.

Even if they weren't afraid IT can look however it wants. So, no holes=no rape.

Aww hes smiling :)

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WOHAH WOHAH WOHAH

What if you stabbed his chest with your benus?

Chapter 1 was a horror movie. Pennywise was a creepy ass clown enigma thing that feeds on your fears and torments you. In the second one he's evil bugs bunny.

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You do realize It takes the form of several famous movie monsters in the book, right? It clearly knows these kinds of things

I haven't been able to get hard enough to do something like that in a long time.

Did they show It true form in the second movie?

Depends what you consider its “true form”. They showed the deadlights in a little more detail and they also had a spider form, but nothing really beyond that

They go for Pennywise's body on top of a giant spider, but they really harp on the lights being his true form instead.

Dude has been living here for longer than any one person has been alive.

Kind of.

He was a spider from the waist down, but the spider body still had the sleeves/ gloves.

Have you read the book? It's true form isn't known or even if it has a true form. The spider thing is the closest a human being can get to comprehending it, but it's still an illusion.

>YOURE NOTHING BUT A WAIFU
>A FILTHY WAIFU WITH A QUIVERING MOIST CUNNY

Not a giant Drider. His true from is presented as three balls of light. He end on taking on some Spiderlike but still clown form. He is still a big clown with the clown head, body, arms and legs, but also grows a spider like abdomen and extra legs with spikes at the end of them.

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You see Peenywise as just deadlights, the spider, and what it looked like when he first arrived on earth

Casting says the screenplay was all done by one guy, but I swear it feels like there were two different people writing for it that were each going in a different direction, or some executive was forcing them to add in all the jokes. The tone flips back and forth so much between horror while staying (relatively) true to the book and oh so badass quips and goofy scenes, like Eddie making a mullet joke right after being stabbed through the fucking cheek by a switchblade

>Okay so we're going to have a Ritual of Chud, a contest of wills, and enforce the rule that Pennywise has to follow the rules of the form he's taking
>Okay but how about instead we have an anti-bullying message where they call him a big meanie and make him feel small instead

>Okay so Eddie's going to have to deal with his fear of doctors and the icky parts of medical surgery, with a reappearance from the Leper
>Hey what if we have it vomit all over him lmao while funny music plays

>Please, god, can we have the scene with Adrian Mellon?
>Sure, but one of the Losers also has to be gay

The whole thing reeks of someone meddling with it

>”Oh no, there’s NOTHING that I fear more than a big tiddy waifu...”
>IT shows up as said waifu
>*unzips dick*
>credits roll

You mean all those videos where some random fag just happened to be filming in some remote location that just so happened to have a spooky guy in a clown outfit?

I knew this movie was going to be bad. But damn, I wasn't expecting it to be THAT bad...

>when she pulls out her cock and its bigger than yours
>you: "NOOOO!!!" *camera zooms away and fades to black

No. And they even wasted the chance to make any of the many cool transformations IT had on the book. They even made a shittier version of the spider than the one from 1990...

>tfw we could've had something like this

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I don't remember them showing what he looked like when he arrived on Earth

There was that stylized montage where he was doing a bear-like and wolflike forms against the native americans, is what I think he was referring to

How fucked would you be if Tim Curry's Pennywise fed like its relative Dandelo?

Looks good, but still not as nice as the giant eye or how the spider is described on the book.

Best shot the current shaky cam low quality footage out right now has. He has a spider like butt, but it is still floofy and frilly like a clown outfit. All the wider shots of his body (there anrn't many) are to pixelated so this is the best I can show for how his "clown spider" form looks. Don't judge it to harshly on how this picture looks. It is cooler in motion but still not as cool and if they went all out with it being a drider.

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>He has a spider like butt, but it is still floofy and frilly

haha

>>Please, god, can we have the scene with Adrian Mellon?
That scene was so good it was worth them barley making the loser gay. All it was missing was the "no fags" writing under the bridge. I am surprised they worked that in at all considering they were still to afraid to say nigger in the movie. "Two crackhead found dead", crackhead printed in the paper, yeah right. Would have hit harder if it said two niggers.

Pretty fucked. Also, based Dark Tower reader.

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That's disappointing. Did Chapter 2 at least deliver meme scenes like pic related?

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WHAT A NICE GAME. I BETCHYA HAVE A LOTTA FRIENDS

I thought IT did scarier things in part 2. Part 1 was a better story though

Closest thing is the leper scene, and it's not a good meme. It's "silly music over dumb visuals."

I don’t really remember anything like that dancing scene, but it was a really solid movie overall

>Implying it would be any other Street Fighter 2 in 1989
Zoom

The book worth a read?

I don't think Pennywised danced at all? What is weird because he had more screen time as a clown in this then the first one.

They also cut back on scenes stabilized on his face, there were a couple short ones as he ran towards someone. I can only recall that happening once during the scene in OPs picture but I didn't like that scene for other reason so I forget if it did or not. I really liked the stabilized effect in the first movie and wish they kept it up but they didn't.

Is there a more hack writer than Stephen King?

>I thought IT did scarier things in part 2. Part 1 was a better story though
Nothing in 2 tops the projector scene in 1.

Because of the removal of the macroverse. The way Pennywise dies was always going to be anti-climatic compared to what he was capable of, however, if the macroverse and turtle were at the finale, they would have at least lent to the scale of the battle being waged, like the fate of the universe is at stake. At least tension could be built then, that way when they beat him too easily, it would at least feel like a accomplishment due to having saved the universe.

Shut up bitch, or I’ll show you MY dark tower

I didn't find that scary

Koontz

I love this meme.

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*honka*
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Clown in a sewer will never not be good

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Even worse, he acknowledges in the movie that he can't write good or satisfying endings, yet, he never tries to do better. Like if I act like a asshole, saying I am a asshole means I don't have to become a better person now.

>n could be built then, that way when they
I found it intense, scarier then anything in two. Most scary part in 2 is the mirror maze I guess? But I find something happening in your own house scarier then happening in a maze.

If you like Stephen Kings writing, then yes. If you've never read anything by him then just know that he spends an inordinate amount of time setting up characters and developing them before progressing the plot. It's what fans of his like though, because it makes you actually give a fuck about the characters when something happens.

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Its a fun read but it isn't high art or anything. Its also very long and overstuffed with vastly varying ideas. Despite these things it works somehow, but you can tell King was coked out to high fucking heaven while he was writing it.

agreed

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Why did they make that one guy gay when he never was

It's like thousands of years old or some shit and has been living on earth for a long ass time.

Who /wizardandglass/ here?

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Is Junji Ito the lunar version of Stephen King?

Movie opens with a gay guy getting assaulted and murdered. They were covering their asses.

hes legitimately somewhat telepathic. thats how he knows their fears and insecurities in the first place

Politics. Did you ever see that early 2000s remake of Salem's Lot? They took a character from the book that was explicitly racist and homophobic as his defining characteristics and made him a gay black man.

If I'm being honest, I'm more so scared of what IT does in the new series than the clown itself. Like, when he made that kid's head with the spider legs sticking out of it. there was something very alien and freaky about it to me.

Not that I think Pennywise can't be scary. He has his moments, but in this one I find
what he does to be scarier.

Because it's a fucking intense book that was built around weaving the childrens story together with the adult story but for some reason they keep cutting them into 2 pieces.

>inordinate amount of time setting up characters and developing them before progressing the plot.
Keep in mind he does thisfor people that don't matter too. Whole chapter about how Jew's wife hates being a jew then she is never talked about again. Whole gay beating chapter about the cop and what he thinks about gays, then he is never brought up again. Heck the frist chapter went on to talk about the guy who owns the local gay bar, what he thinks of gays and how his bar because a gay bar. None of that matters for the story at all. He keeps throwing around names that I find it hard to keep up. Hard enough they jump around between the main cast of 7, but then to spend a chapter jumping between the names of two homos, the homo beats, and cop. It got hard to follow at a point.

Sure fleshing out the world if you keep up with it however.

Drawing of the Three is by far the best one, but they each have great moments.

BASED. Best book in the series

Didn't he literally write a story about phones that attack people and turn them into zombies?

I've said this when Part 1 came out and it still holds, but one of the biggest inevitable flaws about making It into a movie/miniseries is that it will never have established as much about Derry or the characters as the novel did
Pennywise felt like much more of a threat there, not just because it mentioned the macroverse with the proper Dead Lights, but because he spent hundreds of pages describing how deeply connected It was to Derry. The entire city was under Its thrall to one degree or another, to the point where he could push adults away from horrid shit happening to people right in front of them. They halfway mention that in Part 1, with how nobody thinks its odd how so many people go missing or with Adrian's boyfriend calling Derry a terrible place, but it doesn't nearly catch it as well as the novel did.

When they kill Pennywise for good, the city literally collapses into the sewers. It had built a nest where it landed, and over the years beckoned people to build a settlement over as some kind of honeypot feeding nest. Dead Lights notwithstanding, Pennywise was a much greater, more primal threat than a couple of movies could possibly showcase

>a drumroll welcomes a little frog balancing on a ball
>with the crash of the rimshot he stops center stage and is illuminated by a bright spotlight
Teehee! Look at me go!
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>they keep cutting them into 2 pieces
didn't the miniseries keep them both as one?

Why the fuck did they have Mortal Kombat in the arcade? It wasn't out then.

I kinda liked the movie but it was pretty bad. The chinese restaurant scene was filmed by a guest directoor or some shit, jesus christ.

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There's an arguement to be made the clown isn't even real and is just a figment of their imagination. Tbh the whole story is a mess, King is an awful writer.

They did pretty good with both movies, and kept relatively close to the source material. However, that also means that the flaws of the source material also transferred over.

All in all, it was a fun couple of movies but not overly-amazing

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pepe is shit user

>we will never get a faithful televison/movie adaptation of Wizard and Glass with Jonas played by Sam Elliot
It simply isn't fair.

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Basically, yeah.
>The story follows a New England artist struggling to reunite with his young son after a mysterious signal broadcast over the global cell phone network turns the majority of his fellow humans into mindless vicious animals

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TAKE YOUE PICK BUH BUH *OUGH* BILLY BOY!

gotta self advertise
WB owns MK

Heehee! Your words can't hurt me! Look at me go!
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>Tbh the whole story is a mess, King is an awful writer.
Finally something true

Never seen it. Unless you mean the tv movie which ughhhhhhh wasn't good

wait what the fuck did V/H/S 3 rip off a shitty Steven King novel? Just when I thought that flick couldn't get any worse

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That was one of my main issues, it felt like Pennywise barely taunted them or interacted with them. The best was him and Mike in the school, but we never got any shit like Pennywise stressing the fact that they were too weak as a group to take him on now. Also they didn't really touch upon how It was starving thanks to fucking up its feeding cycle. And they didn't mention how It was pregnant.

So much stupid shit should have been cut. The dumb head spider scene, everything with the bully (why was he put in when they changed the story to give him no impact?). It was a mess. Would have been a better miniseries with the pacing problems it had.

come up with something original, faggot

VHS1 and 2 were flawed but ultimately decent anthologies. I don't know what the fuck happened with 3, I literally couldn't finish it.

Oopsie! You seem a little bothered, user. Let me cheer you up with my squeaky little nose! Teehee!
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I liked them, for the most part, but the third one was an absolute clusterfuck

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When you see reviews like this is when you know you have something good on your hands.

Everything shitty in VHS2 was worth it for the cult short

No way fag. I prefer SNK over capcom.

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>people are still pretending the 1990 spider looks bad
it's bad in the wide shots where it's all stop motion. the puppet looks great though, especially on a early 90's tv movie budget.

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Very true.

Loved Part 1, didn't really like Part 2. Should I read the book?

correct

The problem is the lighting. I really hate the bland clown centaur we got. Even the flashback version looked cooler.

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Does the new movie have any scenes like this?

The book isnt separated by parts, its constantly skipping back and forth between them being children and adults. If that sounds more enjoyable to you, then go for it.

The character writing was better but the "horror" was entirely jumpscares

Yup, just for the stuff that wasnt in like the leech fridge and the vampire with razor blades for teeth.

>The character writing was better
no it most certainly was not

Yeah, they should really just trying to turn Kings novels into movies/shows. They have zero chance to capture his writing. I'm dreading the upcoming Dark Tower series, because that's such a bizzaro, 4th wall breaking, every genre in one, 10,000 page epic, that I think it's literally impossible to tell outside of the novels.

every scare in both movies is predictable as fuck if you know what to look for. nothing about them is creative or interesting it's just BOO SCARY MONSTER!!!!!!

you need me

To me Chapter 1 and 2 are on the same tier. Two of my friends read the book and hate of they dropped things in film

It's certainly worth a read and it's pretty good overall despite the flaws in King's writing methods. Just be prepared for some weird stuff like the space turtle and the underground underage orgy

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The psycho kid shoving dogs in a fridge just to watch them die and smothering babies, followed by getting hit by a bunch of leeches, is much more horrific than anything any of the movies could ever have the balls to show

Is there a place where I can read it for free? Seriously, I've been meaning to read the book but I've just never gotten off my lazy ass and did it yet.

IF I need you so much then why don't you come over here and kiss me on the cock?

I liked the door thing in chapter 1 and they had too fucking MCU it up in the sequel. They really retread a lot of shit but made it worse in the process.

Yeah the starving dog foaming at the mouth made me feel sick to my stomach. Dude deserved even worse than he got.

Google a PDF or epub file. I've never paid for a book in my adult life thanks to the internet.

IT is more about the story but they advertise it as being scary to attract the normies

Replying to myself, but I have read the Dark Tower books, how connected is IT to them?

Umm, a library? They exist you know.

Fucking zoomers, I swear to God.

Proto deadlights looked badass in this one. Really don't understand why they had to stick to the clown literally the entire time they fought it.

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there was a version of this with that teekyu girls lip smacking. I was hoping youd get the reference.

The movies lived and died on Skarsgard, so they probably wanted to go with the 'safe' bet and keep his face slapped onto it

I wish they did more with the "inconceivable monstrosity" aspect of IT during the final confrontation, it's honestly the most interesting part about it

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Neat

You have this resource at the tip of your fingers that can access anything you want from the comfort of your own home. Don't be a Luddite.

having the clown still be part of the design pissed me off. like they really don't trust the audience to know that the spider is pennywise so they have to glue the frills and the head onto him? it was more distracting than it was scary. i kept thinking of pic related the whole time.

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>it felt like Pennywise barely taunted them or interacted with them.
The whole skateboard down the stairs and then following mirror maze was his taunting and messing with them at least. Also the Street Fighter scene in OP. There was a decent amount on taunting but it just wasn't as impactful.

Yeah the best part for me was the part where Richie just gets a full facefull of the dead lights. Otherwise it just felt way too overblown and long for its own good.

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ya they really dropped the ball on the final fight scene, could had been much better

Someone asking where they can read something for free and not thinking of a library is full blown retarded. I have nothing against technology, but, c'mon, "where can I read this for free?"

I guess I can understand that they didn't want to fuck it up. I mean, I still enjoyed the whole movie, but the final fight, at least to me, didn't seem as good, save for the deadlights bits as you mentioned.

Anything with deadlights is good. Even the first one where Beverly gets lighted.

source material was weaker for the adult part than the kid part, though I still liked it based on the strength of the acting

The skateboard didn't feel personal. I did like the mirror maze even if it was ultimately pointless, felt like they just did it to get the most use out of the carnival set DESU. But I did like him taunting Richie while the crowd danced in the background, and both scenes where Bill encountered him were great.

>DEEP DOWN YOU'RE JUST A FATTY FAT FAT LITTLE BOY WHO KNEW HE WAS GOING TO DIE ALONE
Fucking wrecked.

can a stephen king book ever be adapted correctly?

The first Pet Semetary?

It's late and no library is open, and I wanted to read it now. Use your head. You have something against technology if you're this fucking defensive over the Goddamn library. Go smash a printer to pieces.

I mean, I agree with you
The clown drider was a cool image, I guess, but I was disappointed they didn't go full abomination in Its final form

Also there was a fourth, green orb of light that popped up for five seconds at the end and that's probably the closest we're ever going to get to the Turtle

That part was really hilarious

No, not really.

K

Probably not because producers and directors will want to dilute the more fucked-up stuff for the sake of appealing to a broader audience, like how Junior in Under the Dome kept "girlfriends" in the closet (which was cut from the TV series)

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By Hollywood? Of course not, they can't even adapt cartoons and comics correctly.

Can someone explain the dead lights or are they never properly explained in book? I just watched the two films. From what I understand it a form of alien race that is able to shapeshift?

Both movies together as one 5 hour long IT movie is a B+. I hope they do end up making the supercut version but I don't think it'll make the movie any better unless they have a butt load of deleted scenes like it is Lord of the Rings.

I'll try that. I definitely want a thumping good read for the night.

What the fuck else are they supposed to do?
You want them to do a 6 hour movie? Or you want to cut even more story to cram both time periods into a single film?

His short stories are the best bet. His novels are just too convoluted to translate well. A few have been though. Shawshank Redemption and Green Mile were both pretty good adaptations.

what's this meme about It book and jewish underage orgy, some kind of metaphor?

The Dead Lights are a malevalent entity that exists outside the universe
It's best described as an infinite latticework of orange light that's filled with pure hatred and resentment for pretty much all living things, and considers itself to be the only significant entity in existence

It can't really meddle much with the universe, but it can apparently shit out offshoots of itsself that float around trying to do as much harm as possible to people. Pennywise/It is one of these offshoots. As a tiny part of an infinite ball of cosmic Hatred, It is incomprehensible to mortal eyes, so their minds can only make sense of it by envisioning it as some of their deepest fears. Since thought has morphic affect on It, that actually turns it into whatever it is they're seeing

Swirling orbs of light and destruction. It's explicitly made to be too alien to understand.

>shawshank redemption was by stephen king
I had no idea

The deadlights are an eldritch abomination that can't be perceived by the human mind, and they're also a separate dimension at the same time. It's an extradimensional entity basically on the level of God. It can shapeshift into anything it wants, and the "spider" form you see in the movies is basically an approximation of its true form, the closest thing the human mind can think of.

Looking at the deadlights causes people to go insane because it's something they can't possibly comprehend. It's like looking at the true form of an angel. You will shit your pants in sheer terror. It needs to take a physical form in order to feed though

I think James McAvoy’s a great actor, but did anyone else feel Bill could have had better casting?

>metaphor
It actually happens. It's for plot reasons, but it actually happens. Go read the book

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In the book they get lost as kids after defeating It for the first time and run a train on bev to strengthen the power of their friendship so they can escape the sewer

>crowd danced in the background
That felt weird to me. While creepy, IT was always shown to be afraid of open spaces and groups of people. Quickly disappearing whenever people left the room or ran into a random person. Then for that one scene he is out in the open and in the middle of a crowd, and suddenly he can mind control them all?

Dead meme

I thought they fucked each other before fighting IT. I really need to just read the fucking book.

>strengthen the power of their friendship
I took it as more so they don't forget what has happened. You always remember your first time so in order to make sure they don't forget this stuff like every other adult, they had to run that train. Can't forget a 5 guy 1 girl underage sewer train as your first time.

the crowd was an illusion user

Stand By Me was also one of his short stories that went under the title "The Body".

Both the climax to the childhood arc and the adult arc happen near the end of the book

They beat It as kids, then fuck, then it jumps back to them as adults where they fight It a second time

In a way, the entire book is one big analogy for childhood and the loss of innocence, with the idea of sex being the big gateway to Adulthood that you can't really turn back from, it was equal parts them finally moving on away from their child selves as it was one big coke-induce dream King thought up after plowing his wife one night

you gotta be fucking kidding with me, right?
what the fuck Stephen King

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Richy was never looking at them to even need the illusion there. Afterwards they just went back to practicing their cheer routine. Unless I missed something I am pretty sure they were real. It was just a weird part written but someone who didn't understand Pennywise

I like deflated pennywise personally but I haven't seen him posted around much

>with the idea of sex being the big gateway to Adulthood that you can't really turn back from
Haha yeah, as an adult I can say I have indeed had sex which makes me truly grown up haha
What kind of manchild is in their 20s without even holding a woman's hand haha what babies

Learn to google you fucking retard.

It's final form reminded a lot to this shit.

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Cocaine's a helluva drug

I think the original kid Bill was better, a little torn on adult Bill, but I think I lean towards new adult Bill. I think both kid and adult Richie are better in this one. There was a certain charm to the original, but hearing some kid joking about a Jew getting the tip of his dick sliced off and saying "WHERE'S THE BEEF?!" cracks me the fuck up. That kid was the fucking star of part one.

I know how to Google you half-wit. I was asking if it was available at all.

Find it yourself you stupid fuck

That's exactly what I'm doing ya simp.

Have you tried the library?

This thread is better then any IT thread I've seen on Yea Forums

The recent movie was a comedy. Nothing scary or serious at all almost like a parody of itself. That being said I had fun watching it with people who laughed.

Not exactly a high bar

Yeah,in one of those new 24 hour libraries that are popping up all over the country.

>This thread is better then any thread I've seen on Yea Forums
fixd

I wish they'd explore more of the IT that terrorized the natives. Imagine going full Wendigo.

That green orb was Maturin?

I have a pretty out of this world idea for you, boss, might be sort of a long shot though
Wait until it opens

Naked lady, deflated (baby) pennywise and when Richie and Bill scream at the little kid come to mind.

The ending when he became Verne Troyer.

An eldritch spider would have been cool, not really what it was but something it would use. they could have had it alternate between forms trying to interact with the kids, but couldn't, so it turns into a tarantula thing that walks on the walls, leaps, webs.

The scene where Pennywise was putting on the makeup was the only legitimately unsettling scene in the entire movie and it was so short it was obvious it was just there for trailer fodder

No. They already had to haul ass through the dense as fuck material as it was. Adding in more shit that wasn't even in the novel would have just made it worse. Instead of the five minute sections of each character getting their tokens for the ritual they'd be cut to 3 minutes. By far the worse part about about this movie was the pacing, adding in more would only hurt it.

I think it was
It's only on-screen for a split second, but it's green and appears after the Dead Lights were vanquished
When Eddie holds up the spear and says "This kills monsters if I believe it does", the tip also starts glowing a faint green

It's not any kind of confirmation, of course, but I took that to be the Turtle

See the Turtle of enormous girth
Upon his shell he holds the Earth

Shoo shoo librarian.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot about that part, the spear did look green.

Stephen King cinematic universe when?

My first thought coming out of the movie was that there's no tension. The first movie has scenes like Georgie, Patrick, and the painting that are pretty well-orchestrated. As a horror movie it's a fun watch,

In the second movie, outside of the bleachers and maze kills, there isn't really any of that buildup. You don't feel any danger in the Losers going back and reliving deleted sce-err, memories.

His thought is slow but always kind. He holds us all within his mind.

They really stepped up Skarsgard's role in this one. The makeup scene, the bleachers, and "Kiss me fat boy" were all gold.

You're right. I just thought the native imagery was cool and wanted more of that instead of what we got.

Too bad he was barely in the movie for more than 5 minutes at a time and completely obscured by the excessive CGI

If they really wanted to keep Pennywise in its final form, then they should've had him be a limp puppet of a body that either flops around and/or Things out for the spider to manifest from his body.

I can't tell if the scriptfaggotry or the lack of awareness about futa disgusts me more

God, imagine if Pennywise made some comment about not fucking about anymore and had the spider burst out from inside his clown form like it was shedding its skin

We already kind of have that

I think all the humor backed them into a corner where they really couldn't have Pennywise suddenly become a no-nonsense actual threat.

Didn't they kind of do that in the original miniseries? Tim Curry's Pennywise was actually pretty funny, but the spider was no joke.

The issue is in the movies, the humor aspect was focused on the main cast with them cracking one liners and quipping endlessly when in the mini-series all of the humor was brought on by Curry which makes a hell of a lot more sense when he is masquerading as a clown and making him even more unsettling in most scenes knowing he's an actual threat

Curry's Pennywise was funny, but the narrative treated him like an actual threat
One of the ongoing things in Chapter 2 was that nobody took clowns seriously any more, so the narrative started weakening its own villain and shot itself in the foot

Pennywise molting would've made for a creepy visual, if nothing else.
Doing the spider itself as a final form is a challenge, but I feel like if they did some crazy effects, like the biology of the flashback to IT's arrival (but fleshy), or something like Annihilation's basement shapes as a constantly shifting image it'd have worked.

I'll need to see it again and see if I agree with this or not. I've only seen part 2 once so there's not a whole lot I remember besides a few highlights.

My dad loves Koontz's books, gimme a rundown on why he's shit I'm really curious

why was he even a clown if It is supposed to manifest fear?

Can you actually kill whatever the fuck pennywise is? Don't a couple post-IT books imply it's still "alive"?

Honestly I'm just joking. It's just a running gag that King always pokes fun of Koontz. Like when he made Koontz that dickhead in the asylum who was treating Henry like shit. He got killed by Pennywise in the form of a rabid dog.

I've never even read his books. Not sure if Koontz does the same thing with King either.

Because he find it fun and also it is an easy way to lure in kids for when he wants a quick snack.

Originally it was to make it easier to lure children closer. Children being his preferred targets because it was easier to manifest the fears of a child. The clown was simply bait.

Koontz admitted to a rural Georgian sheriff that he can't read. He just types letters on a page at random and if he thinks they look too long he just hits the space bar.

Because A) It has to follow the weaknesses of whatever form it takes. Werewolves are weak to silver, so it would be weak to silver if it turned into one. Clowns don't have any associated 'weaknesses'

And B) Kids ideally loved clowns, so it would use the funny laughing man to draw them closer. I guess you could say that Pennywise was out of date and didn't realize nobody really liked clowns any more, but that's kind of a shitty cop-out for Part 2

Pretty sure those are his off-spring. Last I checked you can kill "IT" but only in the metaphysical sense. No physical object can kill it, unless you actually believe. That's why kids are the both the strongest opponents and weakest prey. They truly believe what they see, and think they can kill a monster like IT with something like a slingshot.

Also, the lucky 7, or losers club if you will, had Maturin to back them up, which probably powered up their ability to fight him on a metaphysical level.

They killed the manifestation of the deadlights that was Pennywise, but no, I don't think you can kill the deadlights themselves as they are an interdimensional being.

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Did the Deadlights actually survive? If that's the case, what was even the point? It can just manifest into another physical form and come back to terrorize and eat children.

>Drider
shut the fuck up with that shit right now

>never was big into IT even when it was a miniseries
>"a killer clown stalks children" wasn't engrossing enough for a horror book apparently
>there's shit about eldritch prophecies, turtle gods, and sewer sex
Stephen King, not even once

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him banging his head against glass
shriveled baby pennywise

In a book that takes place 2 years after IT a character from the book passes through Derry and notices a clown in the sewer with silver dollar eyes. King apparently confirmed it was pennywise. So to answer your question I have no fucking idea.

Stephen King's It is actually a lot more interesting than the miniseries would make it out to be. I assumed it was just another typical horror movie as well (which is why I also avoided it like the plague as a kid. Did NOT want to watch it after hearing about some killer clown that can turn into blood and shit).

Maybe its his offspring? Didn't we hear about him laying some eggs? Either way that opens up the door to part 3. Fucking hell man.

Yeah, Dreamcatcher mentions him by name at the end of a chapter

Clowns might be a good way to get an undercurrent of fear going in the kids.

Essentially they were banished rather than killed. The Crimson King (the antagonist of The Dark Tower and The Stand and many other King novels) however does use them again. Just not in any "pennywise/IT" form.

It truly can't be killed. It's just going to keep coming back, doing the same thing ever 27 years no matter what. Maybe that's a metaphor for old childhood fears. They never truly "die", just sleep.

>tfw want to play sfv but only want to play Vega because he's handsome like me
>tfw he's dogshit
fuck you capcom buff my nigga and I'll play your shit ass game again

>they clearly show Pennywise bite a girls face off and a kid being eaten in one chomp with blood poring everywhere
Tbh these scenes kinda shocked me at first because most deaths from the first movie were done off screen like Georgie’s death

I thought Dark Tower took place before Stephen King's It. Does it take place after it?

do you remember dandelo from book 7, the todash monster that feeds on emotions?
IT is the same sort of thing, though much more powerful, and only really feeds on fear. IT's basically just a very powerful todash thing.

>like Georgie’s death
His arm getting torn off then him being dragged into the sewer screaming was worse than anything in chapter 2

Same. First scene in part 1 did spend a "shock" up my spine the first time I witnessed it, especially hearing Goergie screem "my hand". The miniseries was toned down for TV, as you couldn't really show that sort of violence in 1990 television.

In a way though, it was kind of creepier, the implied deaths. They were left up to your imagination, whatever horrible thing your mind can conjure up.

The Dark Tower takes place outside of the concept of time. It's far too complicated to bother trying to summarize it.

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Yeah I heard that IT does come from Todash space. Based on what I've read, IT is pretty typical for a Todash monster, isn't he?

I couldn't take this seriously imagining Skarsgard prone on the ground sticking his face through the set

Langoilers remake when?

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The tonal whiplash of bad comedy in the middle of otherwise serious sequences hurt the movie badly. Even removing it for a more serious cut wouldn't really fix it, that screentime was at the expense of what should have been serious scenes.

The best scene in the whole movie was Bill's inner confrontation during the finale, where he affirms to himself that he was a good brother and what happened to Georgie isn't his fault. Ben and Bev's scenes were also pretty good, though not nearly as powerful.

Ritchie and Eddie got a reprise of the shitty doors joke from the first movie. The closeted gay dude and the guy who is about to sacrifice himself don't get any kind of introspection, no personal confrontation with their actual worst insecurity, just a shitty rehashed joke. Mike got nothing at all.

>green orb
Scene right after they crush the hard. Blur to the left side is them standing around. Green Orb spins in a circle above them for a second then fades away

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>Get stabbed in the face by an asylum escapee
>Quips
>Another characters stabs said escapee in the back of the head, instantly killing him
>Quips then pukes
>Never brought up again
The humor was so fucking dumb post-kids

So at the end of the first film, they beat Pennywise up and his head splits open showing something cosmic right before he falls. What was that? I don't think it was addressed in Chapter Two

There it is
The closest we'll ever get to the Turtle in a movie

Pennywise is going to be in Dead By Daylight as the next killer after Demogorgon

Nothing about todash is typical. Essentially it's a catch-all for supernatural monsters. Some are psychic vampires, others are like the creatures from The Mist.

I really hope so.That's all I ever want.

Georgie’s death and arm being ripped off are done off screen. The camera cuts before you even see anything.
In chapter 2 Pennywise fucking erases a kid from existence with his mouth. His blood sprays everywhere and his scream gets cut off. And the camera never cuts to a different shot you get a clear shot of everything.

So they have a variety of abilities and forms. I heard that people can get sent to Todash darkness, and they become blind and deaf, swirling around until one of the todash monsters eventually kills it or eats it or something.

A glimpse into the todash space dimension. A space between spaces where the deadlights came from.

every time someone mentions demogorgon I get interested, then immediately realize it's not what I'm thinking of

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Looks like it is just black. All the specs are just hits flesh flaking away and he is hollow inside.

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people like the clown

Todash is a state that allows traveling between universes. If someone gets lost during this state they end up in todash space, from which you cannot return. And yes, eventually you will be killed by one of it's inhabitants.

I mean yeah, I like Pennywise. Who doesn't? But I also liked that form of him in the ritual of chud. Wanted to see more of it.

this is the one time someone from /tg/ can actually say drider in a sentence. let them have their moment.

That's a terrifying thought.

I enjoyed the reference to The Thing In it, also he looked cool as fuck when he hit richie with the dead lights as a giant spider and his mouth unhinged

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What the fuck is a drider anyway? yeah yeah, I know, Google. Spoonfeed me anyway, I ain't got time for that shit.

spider centaur

A DnD monster popularized by RA Salvatore in his Forgotten Realms novels

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Drow version of a centaur. Top half Drow (a dark elf kinda race), bottom half spider.

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Thank you gentlemen. Figured it had something to do with this, but wasn't entirely sure.

Also a meme some fucking dedicated faggot on Yea Forums is obsessed with

That scene actually gave me goosebumps.

Why Yea Forums of all boards?

Because IT is a movie

Oh yeah, of course.

fpfp

Without a doubt he is going to be in. I can't imagine him having any good dialog but T800 isn't going to have any good dialog either. As long as Netherrealm gives him a Deadlight face beam attack I will be happy.

>Fatality is launching the opponent across the cosmos to face the full brunt of the Dead Lights
I would straight up fucking buy the game just for that

>Pennywise would main Blanka
>Stuck it out with Blanka for years even when he got dumped in ST
>IT 2 takes place in 2016
>2015 was the last year of USFIV on EVO
>SFV was released in 2016 with no Blanka
So in universe, it's Capcom's fault he comes back?

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Everyone has something they're afraid, even people from the MK world. All he needs to do is take that form, maybe something from the MK world itself.

>takes the form of nigger screaming on his mic

Are you afraid of niggers user?

>dancing scene shows what's apparently IT arriving on prehistoric Earth, complete with prehistoric plants
>Chapter 2 has IT arrive in the last ~300 years

>1989
>MK is out

The only scary scenes that stayed tense throughout the entire thing was the beginning, the house of mirrors and the girl behind the bleachers. Otherwise they were ruined by "ooga booga monster".

Fuck off Pennywise, you broke the punch button trying to spam E. Honda's hand slap like a fucking scrub and now your eldritch ass can't convince Rocco to get it fixed. Fucking Faggot ass Clown.

nice viral marketing

>Let me show you the dance of my people

I liked the scene of him putting makeup on

>I know what you are, a fucking nigger
Was that line really necessary?

>I guess you could say that Pennywise was out of date and didn't realize nobody really liked clowns any more

>Pennywise just sitting the sewer all mad that nobody likes Clowns anymore and doesn't know what kids like these days to lure them in.

wtf am I even looking at here? Why are there aliens in It?

I had absolutely no idea the comedian character was supposed to be gay. Even the faintest notion of him being gay did not cross my mind once during my viewing.
Do I have real, non-meme autism?

Pennywise crash-landed on earth way back before the dawn of man

Pennywise is actually a hole in reality to an eldritch realm called the Todash Darkness / The Deadlights, of which is a lesser avatar. It's a Steven King book, its always aliens.

I thought the scene with the old lady started off nice, and liked the shots showing her in the background doing weird shit, but then she turned into a big CGI monster and it fell flat. All they really needed to do was for

Would Pennywise die to fireball spam or throw spam and then cry and call you a cheater?

TV series.

Genuine question, how can anyone find Pennywise scary? I laughed at him every time he appeared both in chapter one and two.

For a lot of people clown makeup lands in the uncanny valley or evokes the idea of a corpse, which makes them very unsettling. Add anything sinister to the mix on top of that and it cranks up to 11.

>Blanka comes back as the inevitable DLC pick
>Tokido found dead after being beaten by "Penny" in Grand Finals

No, but I've jumped a few times in the theater due to how ear-shatteringly LOUD some of his scenes were

Not scary, but his creepy moments before doing something was what made it more thrilling than the actual killing imo

Because they already beat IT once, it's not going to be much of a surprise that they beat it again.

Can I get a quick rundown on the turtle

I'm pretty much jumpscare vaccinated and can't get my balls in a twist from: Sudden noise, Sudden scary images, sudden anything.
I for a fact, have to get some tension going before the actual scare to get me somewhat, otherwise my heartbeat gets the tiniest of raise and my eyes widen a bit, but my brain stays as calm and collected as whatever scary istance happends.
My gf in the other hand was a joy to see get her rattling for safety in my arms whenever a jump scare happend, made me laugh more than whatever gay excuse of humor the film had.
I grew up watching nightmare on elm street and playing resident evil 1 and 2 at about 2-3 years old, so there is that

Are you me? I was chuckling at the scares while my GF was clinging to my arm hard enough to cut off circulation.

So then what were the ayys in Dreamcatcher?

How would Pennywise act playing games like Call Of Duty and Fortnite? Would he micspam the whole time playing call of duty? would he just taunt in fortnite?