OOOHHH WHAT A DAY

>OOOHHH WHAT A DAY
WHAT THE FUCK WHAT DOES THIS GAME WANT FROM ME

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It wants you to stop getting your fucking ass beaten and to stop taking all day with killing angels

combos

It literally tells you.
Don't get hit and don't take forever. Also find the optional fights. Combo really shoudln't be an issue most of the time if you don't get hit and keep attacking.

> harder difficulties just spam enemies that take no hitstun

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Don't use items or die

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It's simple, once you know. The idea is to sustain your combo, avoid damage and do it as fast as possible. The last two come later but for now focus on maintaining your combo.

Those numbers on the top right are your combo meter. If you take too long dealing damage to the enemies it drops. To sustain it keep attacking. You can hold the attack button to shoot with your guns as you punch or kick. If the enemy is too far away you can use the regular shot to maintain your combo or, if they block, taunt to keep the meter from dropping. Start there and with practice you'll get them double P's.

>Decide it's time to unlock Jeanne
>go and plat normal
>start up Jeanne
>take one hit, get a silver or worse for damage
>can't fucking get above gold for combos even if I slap on Gaze of Despair because you don't get points for dodging normally anymore, only if you moth within or perfect parry with MoMK
>enemies are aggressive as fuck still, so can't do really anything but dodge offset WW spam, which gives you shit for combo
Fairness and Fearless in particular can suck a fat dick, jesus christ, I hate those fuckers so much.

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Keep your combo up with the generic pistol shot, maximize your dodge-offset efficiency.

>shit at every single platinum game until I figure out how the mechanics work half way through

why does this always happen, am I retarded?

>have a ranking system all the way from Pure Platinum to Stone

>die once
>Stone

If you're really going for it, if you so much as get hit, return to the title screen and then continue from where you left off. Thank god they mitigated this in MGR with a restart from last checkpoint in the pause menu.

Dyeing implies you got hit a ton.
If dieing didn't matter you wouldn't worry so much about getting hit.

You can't be good at a game without understanding the mechanics dude, what are you even complaining about

>what are you even complaining about
Am I?

Well, your frustrated tone seemed to imply not being proficient at the game until you completely understood the mechanics was somehow a problem. If it was not the intention then my bad.

>your frustrated tone
Sorry didn't try and imply I was frustrated.
but I might be now that I think about it. I want to learn the mechanics early on, but I don't want to just look them up. Mostly because I don't want to spoil the experience.

dodge to use witch time and vary your attack moves so u get more points

Just fuhgettabouddit.

Well, that's one part of the experience you clearly don't seem to enjoy discovering for yourself, though. You probably can look up combat mechanics without spoiling the game itself too much.

BAYO 3 FUCKING WHEN?! I'm dying over here.

I love experiencing the learning curve, but the jump from stone/bottle cap to pure platinum seems instantaneous.

it also seems like a lot of this is tied to the upgrades.

I gave the fuck up when gracious and glorious.
Fuck that, I wasn't even enjoying myself that much but then those cunts came along and just ruined the little fun I was having.
I never liked platinum games.

>I gave the fuck up when gracious and glorious.

I really don't recall having a problem with these two when I played.
Were they toned down for the wiiu version?

Grace and Glory are the normal blue and red versions.
The white/gold version are Gracious and Glorious, first show up in chapter 10. You don't get WT off of any of their attacks.

Maybe you're thinking of Grace and Glory. Gracious and Glorious are updated versions of Grace and Glory that show up in Non-Stop Infinite Climax and Hard, they can be a really big pain to deal with.

>The white/gold version are Gracious and Glorious, first show up in chapter 10. You don't get WT off of any of their attacks.
ahhhhhh that must be what it was.
All i remember hating was the motorcycle sections, but that does sound like it was a bitch.

Has anyone done a full stone statue run

>Pure plat all the fights but die 5 times outside of combat

>Playing hard mode for the first time
>Chapter after Fortitudo, the first scripted G&G encounter
>mfw FOUR after the first two
Could not stop laughing. I thought that sort of thing would be reserved for NSIC. I love this game.

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Temperantia is such a piece of shit. No matter where he shows up it's awful.

Cone Bayonetta>short hair Bayonetta
Short haired Jeanne>long haired Jeanne.

>die to one of the instant death qtes that someone playing for the first time will probably miss
>rank goes down a whole grade
Platinumdrones will defend this.

Lets be honest, Temperantia's whole arc and the levels associated with it are the worst in the game.

>Spend 40 minutes on an angel slayer run
>get punked out to Fairness and Fearless

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>game infamous for having instadeath qtes
>think you'll be fine if you slack off and not pay attention during in-game non-prerendered cutscenes
You deserved it

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Dodge Offset

I can barely get through it on normal. Hard must be a fucking nightmare.

I don't do that bad. If I am hit once it's gold, twice it's silver, mostly I get Platinum or Pure. But I die, over and over until I figure out a near perfect run. I wish I didn't punish my score for when I keep trying.

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>continues: 60
Jesus dude, just go back to the title screen and it'll load your last checkpoint.

In terms of W101 they're really slow about giving you your full moveset. You really are gimped until Operation 005.

In my defense I didn't realize Infinite Climxax still had Witch time. So I had the bomb brancer eqiped and had to defeat the Luman Sage with no Witch time.

Now it would be easy because back then I didn't realize how over powered the bird's spiral swords are. But at the time I had to defeat him by only damaging him with the bombs that drop when I dodge because he would dodge literally every single attack.

>QUIT WASTING...
>MY TIME
I would never go for PPPPP combos because I think they're too slow and enraged enemies can block you out of your WW, but I will intentionally fish for them when playing Jeanne just for that voice clip.

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>BOOM!
>THEEEEE EEEND!

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I played it at launch, so no one knew about the instant death qtes. It was stupid then, and it's stupid now. Like I said though
>platinumdrones will defend this

No, it implies that you missed one of the fatal QTEs that happen every second cutscene.

It's literally a non-factor if you pay attention and/or on any run after your first.

>DROWN
>LEAVE ME
Rosa is the best.

games like this make you finish the game with failing marks only to play it again on new game+ and get passing marks - it's the process

it means
you'll get better rankings on your second playthrough

I just started Infinite Climax. Wish me luck, bros.

I wish Bayonetta was my mom

Don't die. Do as many verses as you can.

In 1?

Git fucking gud.

For some reason Bayo's
>TOH!
I really dig. Like in PPP-P with the sword or when she kicks Jeanne in the first stage transition in Isla del Sol.

Yes.

You weren't gonna get platinum on your first go through a level anyway so I don't see how it matters. It's true QTEs suck but that's not the reason.