I don't understand how anyone with any amount of self respect can bring themselves to play this absolute abomination of...

Because the people who complain about QC act like they fucking care. Which they don't. They're just acting like they know what's best for QC when all they're doing is fucking acting like posers who pretend to play retro shooters. Sit the fuck down faggot.

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time to upgrade the amiga gramps
the sound is definitely fucked up though

You're fucking retarded. I don't know who you're addressing, again, what does this have to do with the state of QC?
Are you saying its good?

the game is not good

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THICK

>He doesn't know how to read

user, lol.. You're so cute. It's kinda funny.

Right, so you're just yelling at nobody like a faggot

>netcode wonky
>sound design too immersive and not clear enough
>can't turn graphics super low
>no clan arena
>no dedicated servers

Those are just how it is a step dowm from QL.

Compared to other shooters:
>hero designs boring in terms of gameplay
>seriously lacking in the waifu department
>no team objective gamemodes other than CTF
>pretty much just a reskin of Q3 rather than a hero shooter
>full of self referential wank rather than creating something new

All the characters except Ranger could be deleted and I wouldn't miss them. Ranger's voice lines are hilarious. That said, instead of coming up with a cool hero shooter they just rereleased Quake 3 with a couple speshul abilities.

>There is absolutely no way that there is some IP that has fallen as far as Quake.
Fallout, Zelda, and Dungeon Keeper.

Incorrect. That waifu is dogshit compared to the waifus in many kther games. She's not even as hot as the red haired ho from Quake Live.

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I don't give a fuck about your kther games. Nyx is my wife.

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It's pretty awesome when it works
But it doesn't work.

I'm sorry you have such awful taste user. People like you are why this game is just a shitty reskin of Q3 instead of a genuinely creative hero shooter.

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they need to add orbb

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If people like me were responsible for QC's state, we would have had Hunter in her bikini years ago.

This character isn't sexually attractive, Quakebab

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I LOVE QUAKE CHAMPIONS AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME FAGGOT YOU HEAR ME?!?

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I don't converse my opinions with sample_ posters. Dismissed.

you sound 40 years old desu

will they actually add hunter, bros?

game desperately needs objective based gamemodes and larger teamsizes than 4v4

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HI ESREDDIT
please go back tanks

seethe twitch tranny

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guy's I'm queueing for attack and defend so I can play something other than a mindless rush of slaughter but it's been 9 minutes so far. am I going to make it?

the quake live players are playing 20v20 clan arena again

>clan arena
i would wait three hours to play FFA than ever touch clan shitrena
inb4 buttflustered CA players don't @ me

sorry you're too retarded to play a competitive team gamemode imbecile

seriously go back. you post this shit in every QC thread. it wasnt funny on ESR, its extremely cringe on reddit and its just embarrassing at this point to see it still here years later

take the picture of sib off your wall while your at it faggot

>sib
lmao, you don't even play the game and it shows, sib is a shill

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>you don't even play the game and it shows

only about 2000+ hours between steam and beth launcherdummy

>genuinely creative
>hero shooter

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t. 15% LG accuracy

then you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
sib is a mediocre pro player who shills constantly for QC

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What does it say when your game has less features, and less content than prior titles?
What does it say when your game, which has a niche following, isn't being followed by the niche, rather prior fans of your genre who just want another good game but are left with endless critiques of the measurably failed game?
>arena shooters are boring/suck/aren't interesting anymore! You can still play them!
It's true that everyone can go back and play QL or Q3A or QW, or go mod Unreal tournament 4. But let's be honest with ourselves for a second here. QL/QC's failure is no tragedy. It WOULD have been a tragedy if the game shipped with
>solid multiplayer that is inspired by the mechanics of Q3A
>a wide variety of game modes that prior games had
>a wide variety of levels that prior games had
>level editing/scripting capabilities
>user hosted servers so people could select the experience they wanted
>official MM for stat tracking + competitive play
>no MTX bullshit
>campaign added where you could use the hero shooter elements
>hero abilities become a separate game mode they could have experimented with on custom servers/dedicated MM tab, base game uses defaults to allow players to learn the bare essentials
>demo/replay systems

QC did a few things right. They didn't allow for configs that killed the aesthetic of the game, the sound is decent I suppose, and the art direction was pretty good from what I could tell. However, the niche following that AFPS has would be supporting this way more had it been pulled off correctly. You don't make a niche genre/shooter exclusive to your new storefront. You put it out there so more people can see/'experience it.
As far as the competitive/esports scene goes, you can pay out as much money as you'd like to "get people interested", or "invested" but you will never build a following as strong as a genuine, grass roots competitive community who will build it up for you. Grassroots competitive community will get you farther.

>mediocre
>pro
user.....

kek what a brainlet got everything wrong

QC is literally Q3 with shit art and shit sound.

The one thing you got right was the cancer that is matchmaking and no dedicated servers.

The poor bastards at iD couldn't decide whether they wanted to rerelease Q3 or make the next Overwatch, so they failed at both. Brainlets desu.

QC has dedicated servers and there's nothing wrong with having ranked matchmaking.

go point by point as to why my post is wrong and i'll take you seriously, faggot

I already did boomer. You used too many words, so I summed it up for you. Get out of my thread and go play some D44m by yourself.

HUUH

so you agree with MTX, lack of mod support, and in general fewer features than titles that released over 10y ago? Sad kid

I got it for free

Don't know what MTX is.

Mod support in a hero shooter could potentially revolutionize the genre but they're all deadset on selling skins so it'll never happen.

The old titles are pretty primitive too compared to modern games.

slash_taunt1.wav

OP didn't say there are no arena shooters, OP said that QC sucks ass, which it absolutely does. Based retard with the kneejerk eceleb posting.

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>pro
If you get paid to play a game, it is your PROfession, regardless of skill.

Just wait for halo
I enjoyed Champions more than q3a, it also runs without stuttering on my ryzen2400g with onboard graphic.
In fact i didnt encounter literally any of the problems the people complain about.
However, i prefer overwatch anyway
>I`m the real quakefan, everyone else talking about quake is just a special snowflake seeking for attentioN!
Are quakefags unironically the most insufferable videogame"fanbase" right after vanilla WoW?

This is also the same reason ut3 failed. Amazing.

I don't understand why they went "overwatch lite" on Quake Champions. Why didn't they go all out and put in crazy skill-based movement abilities that change how the game is played instead of "go invisible" and "self heal"? I feel like developers of class/hero shooters are often too afraid to make something truly unique and interesting and just go for the path of least resistance.

>This is also the same reason ut3 failed.
I'd say its because those games became a statussymbol rather than games people enjoy and allmost nobody actually cares about them anymore.
People just refuse to admit that overwatch and halo are simply the better games, but that sounds casual, right?

exactly finally someone who knows how I think. You could have varying types of rocketjumps, air control, skiing, self damage, weaponsets (most important thing by far probably). You could even put an AWP in the game for some characters so they can quickscope people while they're rocketjumping through the air. There's nearly limitless potential for creativity here. And add abilities and waifus to the mix and you have huge amounts of potential.

No, in UT's case gears happened and the unreal engine altogether. It became the steam of their creations. They became too satisfied and complacent and lost their drive and time.

Ah my bad on the ut part, thought you were talking about the newest UT, didnt read it properly.

If I had the money, I've had a vision for my own arena shooter that would incorporate just exactly that. Tons of new skill based mechanics and new weapons that really shake the genre up instead of just making Quake all over again.

best waifu 1999-forever

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>overwatch and halo are the better games
This is how I know you are an underage moron obsessed with style over substance shit.
Do me a favor and grab Warfork (it's free) from Steam and see how much ACTUAL FUCKING FUN REAL GODDAMN ARENA SHOOTERS ARE, ignorant underage child.

Quake Live actually had a decently sized playerbase when it was browser based, iirc.

I've also paid for champions pack. The worst purchase of my life. December 2018 patch killed this game. Fuck Bethesda and fuck Saber.

I miss single player Quake.

>ignorant underage child.
Irony, the post.

I hate that QC went with heroes with abilities all because of a trend that died years ago.
I also really wish they gave team modes more care.

I still want a new single player game with Galena.

Do you not realize that by posting this shit, you are admitting that you are exactly the fucking idiot I described and you're just trying to cover that up by lashing out like a little child?
Grow up and have real discussions with adults and be ready to admit your faults and biases like an adult.

>lashing out like a little child?
>Grow up and have real discussions
>He doesnt like my game! lets just call him underage
Quake is so shit that even quakefags doesnt play it.

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i play this game on an i5-3570k, 8gb ram, with a radeon rx580 8gb and before that i had an msi hd7870 with 2gb and i never had a problem running the game.

The only problem the game suffers is a dwindling player base due to the huge skill gap between newcomers and experienced players and even after newcomers git gud they meet an even bigger skillgap between experienced players and the oldfarts proplayers that have been playing since q3 and even they then have a good skillgap with the pro players.

I initially downloaded this game a year ago because I'm a quake fag and I was pretty excited when I first heard of it. But the CHAMPION / HERO system really turned me down. Also, the game ran with piss poor performance on my 2060, often dipping below 60. It's a shame to see that the current state is the same as it was a year ago.

What personally bothers me about quake is the nonexistent tutorials.
It's like you drop into a shooter in which gunplay doesnt even matter that much and the only thing the tutorial teaches is you is how to go and fuck yourself.
Quake is just full of mechanics you have to learn before you can even think about playing the game. Sometimes you have to spend days just memorizing the maps and routes to strafejump through them before you're even capable of playing the game.
It's not even much about the skillgap, atleast when it comes down to aim etc.
If i play starcraft 2 on the other hand i can simply play the singleplayercampaign that teaches me everything and imediatly join into pvp, improve and get better.
Quake feels like wasting days and weeks of time not being able to play before you can think about playing

This. Overwatch allowed me to have fun in the first minutes thanks to accessability and a working mmr system.

to be honest i dont know why they didnt port the movement tutorials from quake live or at least did something similar. Just learning strafe jumping, long jumping, rocket jumping and plasma riding/jumping with a tutorial and then what weapons work better in each situation would really help newbies out. Add a couple practice maps or better yet, checkpoint runs on the existing competitive maps with time records and shit to practice the different skills and you are done.

Well, atleast they made some 10 secondvideos on how each ultimate works

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Get cancer and die faggot just like you e celeb garbage
There hasn't been a good enough AFPS in year's, UT4/QC had many issues, QC engine is a hot mess and UT4 never got finished (still got like 300h in the pre alpha) and all minor AFPS will not get enough track to revive the genre, because most AFPS players are old and don't even play videogames anymore, the ones that still play are stuck in their old games, why would someone play UT4 when he has UT2K4 that %500 more content and polish? I sure tried, in the end I had to go back to UT2K4 because Epic abandoned UT4 without giving it a fair chance, people want AFPS but players are spread thought multipe games and private servers, if your game doesn't get big enough to get the attention of new players, is not the responsibility of old players to drop their games to go to a inferior product

Is Athena the weakest champion right now?

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it would need top quality aesthetics and character design. I'm thinking we should take a page of 90s and early 1000s console games and fighting games. For example, this is what one of the waifus could basically look like:

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we could also have hot demon sluts. Bear in mind all of these champions would have some sort of crazy mobility mechanic as well as being able to strafe and bunny hop.

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This retard is proven wrong in every single thread yet still comes back to post the same shit.

You're legit delusional or if you're ironically shitposting you really ha have no life.

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it's just 3 with abilities
you're acting like they turned a Quake Arena game into CoD

I think Slash is the weakest right now that the fucking Strogg can slide crouched and literally no nerfs for the rest of champs.
The only notable change in this patch was to give Visor english voice lines and fuck up the sounds.
The way to balance this fucking game is gargabe with these 2 devs clowning around

fuck this game and fuck you faggot

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OP didn't really mention gameplay/abilities being an issue

>tfw thoroughly enjoying the game and following the competative scene

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>no server browser
>players always scrambled at the end of the match
>no grenade launcher
>still enjoy the game despite all of that
then
>december 2018 rolls around
>new update oh boy
>game runs like absolute ass right now when it ran decent before
>try to finnick with all the settings in the hopes of going back to my old preformance
>fuck it i give up
welp i tried Bethesda but your Spaghetti code just kicked me out

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oh fuck i forgot i even made this

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why is hair blue
what the fuck

he dyed it

not asking for the way he did it, asking for the reason

he's german

"If I win Quakecon I'll dye my hair"

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They eventually dropped the browser end of it and made it a $10 game which killed a lot of the playerbase that didn't play it prior to continue with a free copy.

>This game is a stuttery mess on a 9700K with a GTX 2080TI.
The game is advertised as a flagship for ATI Radeon cards, so that must be the reason why all Geforce stuff has problems with the game, mainly with all the physics-based details.

>People just refuse to admit that overwatch and halo are simply the better games,
Doesn't only sound casual, you are a fucking casual.

>eggbots

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Quake Champions died the second they revealed that they were making another hero shooter with Overwatch gimmicks.

is the game any better than during the time when i left it
t. uninstalled when eisen released

Game itself is great. It just sucks ass it's missing so much stuff you'd expect from a Quake title.
Still if you don't have a toaster and just wanna hop in and play it's cool.

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>unironically quoting totaln00bcancerass the shittest fps player I've ever seen
>defending Berthesdacancer post fallout 3
kys faggot.

what turned me off is the fucking performance drop, during beta i was averaging 150-177 fps, when eisen dropped i couldn't break 40
i'm getting a better gpu installed in a few days (rx 580 8GB), you think i'll be able to pull at least 120 with everything set to lowest?

No normies representation aside from Halo and Quake; their newest iterations suck, and Quake's skill ceiling/community has 0 interest in enticing new players.

Probably. Worth trying out performance improved a lot over time.
Just gotta try it out.

Theres a lot of plebs in TDM matches too. What drives casuals away is the fact thats pretty much the only game mode they can play without getting completely crushed. The game could use trickjump match/strafe-jumping practice maps for newcomers.

rx580 runs this game fine.

>You're a casual because you play games i dont like!
Then what are people who insist on playing the real gamer games despite not even playing them?

that's good to know
anything fucked balance-wise?
last things i remember
>rails and lg hitting behind corners
>scarborough splattering you when you're 3 meters above him
>sorlag spit blinding you
>every other rocket being a dud
>dk being worthless after nerfs
>bj being absolute dogshit
>galena spamming invincible totems and having no hitbox
>clutch being broken and able to zoom across the map
>nailguns shooting out marshmallows that magically disappear
i also abandoned my old steam acc, is my old quake acc lost forever or will i be able log in from the new account?

Plebs, like you.

nigga just play QL until Diabotical comes out

>Are quakefags unironically the most insufferable videogame"fanbase" right after vanilla WoW?
Nah, that would be smashfags

Gimme more

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Let's seperate them into smash and rosterfags. Agreed for the rosterfags
Bet you dont even play quake

youtube.com/watch?v=55Q-ixL37Q4

Also, Yea Forums plays Quake when?

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Does KStew play quake?

>Bet you dont even play quake
Not 3, initially. Was more of an UT- and WolfET guy. But Painkiller multiplayer and QuakeLive got me into Quake a bit late. Around 200 hours on Quake Champions.

SOMETIMES THE WORLD DOESN'T NEED A HERO
IT NEEDS A MONSTER

What the fuck is that cooller? Whats wrong with him?

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>200 hours
thats what i play in 2 weeks, so guess you agree that quake is shit. However, i totally agree with the ut. A shame its dead

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i like quake champions, its fun. way more fun than clan arena which is also the reason i stopped playing quake live after over a thousand hours. if champions doesn't survive i really dont see any arena fps ever being successful because they clearly tried despite its flaws and its definitely the most fun arena fps with more than 10 concurrent players

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Quake Champions problems are mostly technical and the lack of updates fixing those technical issues. Its a real shame if thats what is going to kill the game.

quake live is much worse

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play Nexuiz then you fucking scrub

overwatch is like a mobile game. i guess its okay to pass the time idly while you're waiting to play a better game that actually takes mechanical skill?

>they clearly tried
>1 year without content
>they clearly tried
>2 years of shit performance

clearly

Quake 3 really is the best FPS ever made, it's just all around perfection. Hard to believe QC is by the same company.

you have serious mental problems if you think QL is worse than QC, weak bait

a quake game that runs like shit, doesn't have physics that feel correct, has bounding-based hitboxes, and a shitty cargo cult class system that is already outdated - it was doomed from the start. its survival this far out of the womb is testament to how desperate people are for a real game, not to how much Quake Champions resembles a real game in any capacity

>I don't understand how anyone with any amount of self respect can bring themselves to play this absolute abomination of a game.

Because a bad Quake game is still better than 95% of other online shooters you can play

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diaboticle

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doesn't have people spamming the cloaking ability and the AOE poison ability so its not really representative of the experience. game is actually complete trash

QL could use some improvements.

>no objective based gamemode
>no real waifus

You don't even play the game, how would you know.

yeah, its a moldy steak, its still a steak! who cares about the bad parts, look, it's mostly good!

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>meow meow
reminder this retard also thinks the broken spawns on Awoken where you can get a spawn kill half the time are acceptable

i clearly did and quit because its shit, idiot. what's that supposed to say, that i don't put up with retarded game design decisions and have some level of discretion to not want to consume garbage all the time?

Fucking this.
The conceptual basics of QC are so goddamn good. Take Q3 gameplay and take all shit from mods and different games into different champions. The fact that barely any character synergize with each other is huge plus for balance. Adding all of that plus known brand plus huge amount of money from zenimax it could be ez money bqck. But ShitError & Co. couldn't even handle such an easy task.

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this
twitch.tv/agentjkezoor/clip/AltruisticCreativeTermiteDoritosChip

Like these?
Quake is shit and even league of legends requires more mechanical skill than quake.
Stop pretending quake is something only for real gaymers.
(Overwatch doesnt require more skill, but its a lot more fun)

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diabotical waiting room

how the fuck is this acceptable?

>Quake is shit and even league of legends requires more mechanical skill than quake.
0/10 bait

>mmo player finds arena shooters too hard
what a shocker

There's just never any reason for me to play QC as a guy who's new to Quake.

>started playing QL a bit a few years ago
>now play CA fairly regularly like most of the NA scene
>play it for its teamwork and strategy

Now there's QC

>lag problems (possibly because I'm not on ethernet)
>graphics clunky, doesn't FEEL smooth even if it runs at 140+ FPS
>art direction edgy grimdark trash
>NO WAIFUS at all
>character abilities barely any impact on game outside of Athena
>everything monetized, can't even change my fucking name without paying 10$, don't have all champions unlocked
>no clan arena which is already a pretty boring gamemode, instead just autism grindfest deathmatch modes

Just being honest with you guys. They really need to fix the lag, the art direction, the gamemodes, and the lack of waifus.

no one wants to play Q3 with fat robots

Yeah you're right. Just stop gaming.
People who actually play any arena shooter, even if shitted, are still better than the people who just talk about arena shooters and thats it

i play some qc , last patch is quite good in term of performance .
Also my shit opinion about why Quake Champions failed miserably :
-the worst launch time period ever , summer 2017 , they competed against the rise of the BR genre
-Early access fuckery , the game was not polished enough after the closed beta , they should have pushed the release one year away , this would have allowed more time to fix the performance and the many bugs .
-they needed to attract the younger audience more , the artstyle should have been like fortnite.

SciFi channel original series tier setting+Rocket Power from Nickelodeon=Quake Champions

For the mechanical skill
youtube.com/watch?v=o8vGaC4OZIs
About 1/30 of the actual requires knowledge to only play 1 lane, and its only early laning phase
youtube.com/watch?v=fM31j9KpUtU

Your turn quakefag

Only fags complain about this. Spawn killing has been part of Quake since forever.
Yeah it looks dumb and is super apparent but you can avoid it by simply strafing to the side as you spawn. And you can use it to your advantage against the enemy as well.
It's really not as big a flaw as it seems on the first look.

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Literally no one is interested in Q3 with actual graphics which is essentially what QC is. QC actually has more of an edgy, grimdark 90s aesthetic than Q3 did, which is just so dumb. People want beautiful, bright, clearly legible games, not everything washed in shadows and space engineer girls from a 80s sci fi novel.

Fortnite artstyle is too childish though, it puts off the older audience. The ideal is somewhere in between, like the rest of the hero shooter genre uses.

Fuck off autist. Quake is the highest mechanical skill game in the world outside of possibly RTS (non RTS player here, just aware of how much autism those games require at a high level).

>open up quake live
>30 clan arena servers, player cap 16v16 spamfest
>one free for all server with 20 players on fucking hells gate
>1 freezetag server where you spawn with all weapons (aka just clan arena again)
its not quake 3, stop pretending its still good. allowing tasteless faggots host all the servers was a mistake. its absolutely worse than quake champions where you can get ctf, duel and tdm reliably. you can't say the same for quake live, they dont even play quake in that game, quake IS item control, i bet you didn't even know there is more than one gamemode poser faggot. go back to your glorified csgo

>moba
>mechanical skill

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I get you identify around your game mode but no one else feels the way you do. There's a reason most people play CA, which is because most people like working as a team for an objective more than they like autistic powerups. It's not that we hate play deathmatch, it's just that it's not that fun compared to executing a simple, fast paced team wipe. There's a reason CSGO, TF2, and Overwatch all revolve around objectives.

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>Quake is the highest mechanical skill game in the world
20 Years ago maybee.

You could have at least said RTS, rather than MOBA which is just a degenerated version of strategy games

I've literally never seen 16v16 in Quake Live I don't think it's even possible. Only aimlets hate CA btw.

>-they needed to attract the younger audience more , the artstyle should have been like fortnite.
You're correct, your opinion is shit. Plenty of colorful quake clones out there and nobody plays them.

Quake is not item control, it's rocket jumping, strafe jumping, bunny hopping, 3 dimensional maps, RG accuracy, LG accuracy, and rocket utility. Those are what make the game fun. Items add an impressive degree of strategic depth behind the scenes.

lmao imagine being such a delusional boomer you defend literally dying less than a second of loading in

I could, but the argument was league is harder, Rts has obivously a higher skillcap than moba

there is teamwork in ctf and tdm, shocking im sure. you only play ca because you find gamemodes that actually came with quake too hard. you dont know how to control items, you dont know where they spawn, you know where the highest point in the game is and how to hit a rail thats all youve learned and you get demolished by kids with 1 week experience in duel which crushes your ego. and then you pretend like quake live is quake 3, you know neither freeze tag or clan arena are gamemodes that came with quake 3? and yet thats all quake live players play, and here you are shitting on a quake game where people play quake gamemodes, its ironic

>Spawn killing has been part of Quake since forever.
right, when spawns were random and you couldn't force them

don't argue with him. I guarantee he has sub 20% LG accuracy.

even with an SSD it takes like 5 minutes to load into a game and start playing.

this is what you get when you prioritize ebin graphic over gameplay

Item and map control is what wins games though. Thats why pro players can beat aimbot hackers: youtu.be/B8IOvXPg_Gk

Are there any players still in Australia? I miss my stroyboy

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What, you like good games? Fucking casual.

Game was fun. Great gameplay. No one plays so I stopped.

You don't even play Quake what would you know

will you play his game?

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yeah i meant a more colorful , brighter , and little more cartoon like in the art design .

Impressive rant but things change buddy. I'm new to Quake and I see no reason to devote my time to studying DM and duel in QC when I could play a simpler, cleaner QL and play clan arena where I can just focus on my aim, teamwork, and map control. Literally never played a game of duel in my life btw.

Yeah and Rapha's obviously a highly impressive, intelligent human. Maybe they could have items if they had a team objective mode less primitive than clan arena, IDK. But the fact is most people who play FPS either want to play BR or a team objective mode. And CTF is not a team objective mode, it's deathmatch with a couple flags, it plays completely differently from TF2 gamemodes or a team survival mode such as CA or CS modes.

top kek, are you the authority on quake? rocket arena is a quake 3 mod. and clan arena is a modification of rocket arena where you have full health and armor. is team fortress a representation of quake? urban terror? fanon faggot, aiming is one aspect of quake, its not a twitch shooter but clan arena is a twitch shooter gametype. you dont even play quake, you play the equivalent of mge in team fortress 2

Every true Quake fan will try it, there is pretty much 0% chance Diabotical doesn't kill QC.

yeah we just have to wait 5 more years ;_;

you arent changing my mind by just admitting unskilled players find it too hard to learn something new. bet you are straight off cod boat

self-referential post?

>Every true Quake fan will try it
You're talking about the max 100 people that ((actually)) play arenashooters?

still waiting

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No, again, I'm not going to play Q3 but with fat spherical robot characters. Why would anyone want to play as fat little spheres of metal? Most uncreative game idea I think I've ever seen.

I played UrT in my youth. The combination of movement speed and quickscoping was pretty hilarious. Aside from that I get none of the references that your post is assembled out of.

More references. While my references are positive (emulate these other, more successful games) your references are negative (other games are shit, Quake most remain pure). There is no need for Quake to remain pure. Perhaps they should create a fork where they release a pure version of Quake 3 with actual graphics for people like you, but they should definitely be trying to bring the core combat experience to a wider audience as it's easily the best aiming game I've played thus far.

Oh right guys, remember 2v2

100 human beings and a ton of slavs. Russians love Quake for some reason.

>sound design too immersive and not clear enough

when people keep showing up behind me making absolutely no sounds I don't find that immersive. irl if somebody runs up behind me I can hear them. irl I can generally hear things behind me just as well as I can hear things in front of me. the word you're looking for isn't "immersive", it's "cinematic". look into how Overwatch do sound design. QC seems to do the same thing. sound is treated as an enhancement of the visuals rather than a system of its own. they're literally turning the volume up on things you can see and down on things THEY THINK aren't relevant to you.

>totalbiscuit died before arena shooters did
Who's laughing now fatty

Surely there's more than that. Even Xonotic gets like 50 people on a good day. Hows the player numbers in QL and QC?

>no servers
>no mods
>no defrag

game is nearly done, it's already far more polished and release-worthy than QC is which has been in early access for almost 3 years now

Diabotical will definitely be out within 6 months

kek you should try Paladins, they decided to have different sounds for every champion and they mixed it so you can't hear them over the noise of battle (picture a constant low roaring of explosions). There's nothing like getting ganked in an FPS because you can't rely on your ears to tell what's directly behind you. My QC experience is mainly getting raped by that sliding bitch because she makes no sound while doing it, and then ragequitting.

they tried at first
november 2018 is when they completely gave up

>UrT

no one in the history of the game used UrT for Unreal

please kill yourself

fucking eggbots what the fuck man? couldn't they come up with something better?

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you aren't even making sense, i refuse to believe you read my posts. im the one saying quake champions is actually good and its trying plenty of new things. in fact i wouldn't mind more new things, but clan arena does not belong in quake. its a tutorial gametype that people never grow out of, over half the game is cut out. its so welcoming every other gametype stops being played because nobody is willing to learn, its cancer.

you're so dense

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I kinda like the bots but they better have good customization that doesn't rely on microtransactions.

how do we save the arena fps guys?

only things I can think off are
>add new interesting weapons that aren't just from quake 3 again
>add major mod support from the get go
>make more fun and interesting maps instead of just boring balanced maps made for competitive.
>add domination/victory lines for every character like tf2 merc's have.

kek

yes

What a surprise, more welcoming game type is more popular. Presumably the lesson learned here is if you want Quake to become more popular, you should make it more like Clan Arena.

>good art direction
>waifus
>innovative gameplay decisions
>turn it into a true hero FPS

Might as well ask how to save RTS. Game has interesting core elements, but also requires literal autism to play well. Take the good from it, leave behind the bad.

Just do the opposite of what they did with Champions and it's bound to work out.

What, actually make the fucking game?

Am I the only person who actually likes the eggbots?

yes

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Ranked community races, basically take the idea of races from Path of Exile. Two weeks-One month time, top 5 players get some kind of small price and commendation, like t-shirts, figures, that kind of shit.

they just look cringe

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you know what vibe im getting from this
the same vibe i got when i saw microvolts gameplay during my busiest tf2 dayss
this shit will fucking flop

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>Fighting vibrators in Hanamura.
Looks kinda lame visual-wise.

>socks and sandals

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shut up xhep you're a pussy I really wanted you to go to quakecon to get arrested and raped by black men in jail.

go back to ESREDDIT.

>There is absolutely no way that there is some IP that has fallen as far as Quake
Oh, brother...

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>nobody is playing QL
>overwatch comes out and it's instantly popular
>ok people like hero shooters let's make a spin on it
>NOOOOOOO WE WANT A PURE ARENA FPS YOU CAN'T DO THAT
>they listen to people and nerf everything
>the game is now basically QL with better graphics and a few new features
>still nobody's playing quake
Just admit it faggots you think that arena FPS is boring. Otherwise UT4 and QL would've not been dead.

bro... don't do this to yourself. the game looked playable a year ago as well. the game looked playable in april this year when 2GD said he was going to release it THE SAME MONTH. the game being playable has no effect on an actual release. 2GD will only release it when he completely runs out of funds to keep developing it. which might be never, depending on how deep his pockets are. it's astounding how long the project has been going. the kickstarter money couldn't have lasted for more than a few months so who is paying the bills of two programmers and a few artists and all of 2GD's personal expenses? he doesn't have another job, he develops Diabotical full-time. probably made it with bitcoin or inherited some money. any way, Diabotical won't kill QC because by the time Diabotical comes out QC will already be dead. It's already down to late Quake Live numbers. when the farce "pro league" concludes bethesda will surely refuse to give them another penny for this dead POS.

>the game is now basically QL with better graphics and a few new features
no, it absolutely isn't. having varying movement systems, hitboxes and damage-dealing "abilities" in every game mode makes it a completely different game that doesn't appeal to the same audience.

also UT is barely playable on anything but top hardware and has like three finished maps. the majority of that game feels like a placeholder (because it is).

>overwatch comes out and it's instantly popular
Because Blizzard still had its goodwill from past games. Overwatch is slowly deteriotating too.

2GD is waiting after quakecon 2020 to release diabotical, all the pros are playing qc so he needs them after their contracts with bethesda expire.
to me it's vaporware.

Bethesda already basically abandoned the game. Which is the main reason players are leaving.

It is indeed a sad state of affairs.

It is almost as if they intentionally wanted to kill arena shooters.

is qcon 2020 going to have a prize pool? this year's qcon didn't pay enough for, I think, anyone to even justify going there, let alone practicing hundreds of hours for it. I could understand the "pros" (they're technically all semi-pros expect rapha) going hard before the million dollar tournament as there was a real chance you'd win some money. but any tournament after that has had barely any reward beyond third place and even the podium spots don't pay enough to justify any amount of preparation.
not that Diabotical is going to have big prize pools likely, but you know, if there's no money to make either way you'd think the players would choose the superior game out of their own volition. let's say someone wins the "pro league", how much does he earn for that?

kek at quake fags

>muh rapha
>muh tourneys
>muh pro esports

admit you don't play the game more than 5 or 6 hours a day

>is qcon 2020 going to have a prize pool?
I don't know, but bethesda made players sign a contract so they're getting paid something. I'm sure they're shutting down the game after qcon 2020 tho, ""e-sports"" is the only reason the game is still alive and that's probably because bethesda/id planned big things for the game and now they are obliged to face their contractual obligations.

I really want diabotical to succeed but like I said before, it's vaporware to me until I see a release.

yeah some of us have jobs and families

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>This game is a stuttery mess on a 9700K with a GTX 2080TI.
Works fine on my 3570k + rx580 potato. Seems like your overpriced computer is just that.

If you put hundreds & hundreds of hours in a game but claim it's not good, your credibility is very questionable...
(If you made an effort a few hours or got rid of it after a week-end because you couldn't handle it anymore, it would be way more convincing)

How does an OK looking dude like Jehar end up married to a landwhale like RottenRose?

If an IP is dying then let it rest in peace, don't turn it into Overwatch because none of the Blizzcucks will come play your game.

some people like fatties, it's pretty common user.

he's a total beta cuck for starters. I'm amazed that he has a partner (female).

300h is nothing for a multiplayer game, but nice mental gymnastic boomer

>how do we save the arena fps guys?
>everyone misses the point

Arena fps just need to be made fun again, not muh super serious esports. Back when arena shooters were big there were still loads of shitters playing them. People just had fun with custom servers, silliness and fun game modes.
Now all of that has been pushed out because they just want to make the game entirely around 'pros' and obviously that's not 95% of players.

Remember that the high skill esports scene for Quake just organically came out of the games being fun, Quake was never some deliberate attempt to make the ultimate esport.

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Imagine even wanting to touch a fat person, ew.

>People just had fun with custom servers, silliness and fun game modes.
Because there was mod support and private servers, something devs don't like today.

the man who killed Quake

the only man who can save it

The problem with arena shooters like Reflex and Toxic isn't that people don't want to play them, they're just victims of being dead games. There was never that rush of players that provided a decent atmosphere to play and learn the game in, so even if you're interested there's just no reason. Look at classic wow - vanilla servers were around for ages before nostalrius, but the best of them only ended up with 2000 players for a month or two before dropping off to 400 and even lower numbers. It wasn't until nost that there was something with a good enough marketing campaign to draw the player base needed to be sustainable, even with the server not even being that much better than something like scriptcraft. A big name like Epic releasing a legitimate arena shooter that there's a reason to play over Quake Live would 100% be successful.

I tried Toxic but it wasn't a good game, felt more like COD than an arena shooter.
>A big name like Epic releasing a legitimate arena shooter that there's a reason to play over Quake Live would 100% be successful.
you mean like UE4? also who wants to download that spyware store. Diabotical is the only alternative but it's not coming out this year.

kek the levels of boomer delusion in this thread

>i-it's just marketing and execution guys! The core gameplay experience can remain intact! That's why no one plays our game, because it isn't being packaged properly!

Explain how Quake Live has hundreds of players at any time of the day despite being a 20 year old game that they actively tried to kill (loadouts patch, putting a price tag on what was a f2p game) to make people play QC instead.

It is literally that though. When was the last time someone actually made a big AFPS game and properly advertised it? Look at CRPGs, everyone thought they were dead, but thanks to good campaigns they ended up selling millions with games like Divinity: Original Sin and Pillars Of Eternity.

socks and sandals are peak comfy you pleb

Because it's a great game, but that doesn't mean it's going to be around forever, or that hundreds of players is enough of an audience for iD to keep making games.

brainlet

say that to the fashion police when they knock on your door.

In your home maybe but not outside.

the real scoop is that we need a new tribes game

you can create a br fortnite size map in diabotical so somebody is going to make tribes clone eventually

an indie tribes clone will just end up like all the indie quake clones, why play a tribes clone with no people when you can already play tribes 2 with no people? We need an actual new tribes game.

why did midair fail?

just do a quake like nudoom, fuck multiplayer
getting permanently instagibbed by a no-life that plays the game 24/7 is not fun

tribes is too high skill floor for the vast majority of people, and too high attention span for the vast majority of people, it truly is an elite sport

the nu-wolfenstein studio wants to make a new, single player quake game with Q1 aesthetics.

>make more fun and interesting maps instead of just boring balanced maps made for competitive.
>add major mod support from the get go

I didn't say anything about having a major esports scene, frankly I think that all this tryhard esports cancer in games now has killed online games.

esports are just normal videogamers except better, boomer

its because of private lan party clubs that were very popular there during 00's, the library of games varied from place to place except for q3a and cs1.6, there was 100% chance to find either of those or even both installed on every single pc in every club you would come across and were probably the reason why that cultural phenomenon even happened in the first place.

it failed because the 100 people following its dev cycle close enough to buy the game weren't enough to keep the servers alive
Tribes has mass-market appeal, it just needs the right marketing

Quake isn't dead and it will never die.
It's just niche, when will you get it?

That's not true, they made a big thing out of Sacrifice, Slipgate and CTF and there's plenty of silly modes like Hot Rockets or the one where everyone is Scalebearer.

>Arena fps just need to be made fun again
>tfw absolutely no one plays freeze tag

Matchmaking came into existince because of this pseudo "esports" shoved into games now and matchmaking killed most public servers and server browsing.
I have nothing against pro's playing each other in an giant lan events but shoving all this shit online is what killed online multiplayer games.

I would if Champions had it.

>the nu-wolfenstein studio

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>play some comfy 200 iq afps with your bros at lan
>this happends
Post yfw

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Champions is a fucking disgrace.

same shit happened multiple times with apex this weekend and it was lan too 0 shit was given

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Halo is UT but refined, agree
OW is factually bad

Post your QC nickname so I can shit on your face in 1x1.

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I'm not into overwatch clones.

You are all shit players.
Don't pretend that you are Quake fans or that you know anything about Quake at all.

You can't even play it well and you wouldn't win a map against me in 1x1.

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Fuck off to your retarded palagarbage, subhuman ape.

>Halo is UT but refined
You have never played UT.

>You can't even play it well
Yes, and?

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okay, animeposter, why don't you go fuck your boihole some more in a different thread

>boihole
fuck off fag

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t. identifies as weebshit children and dogs

>lacking in the waifu department

I hate people

according to tribes fans the physics felt off.

nah, ascend did well considering its low production value and minimal marketing.

Bros...

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>"G"F

>wants q3dm6 AGAIN
Bitch, I'm getting a divorce.

starting to think you CA haters may be right... I always play team based obj gamemodes but with map control being the only obj in CA, and one team typically taking map control in the warmup period, it's kind of bullshit

On that note, how do you guys think a defusal mode or a payload mode or control points would work in Quake?

hunter is 100$ female

Warsow has bomb defusal.

still waiting for a game that has rocket jumping, strafing, and bunny hopping, but high quality game design on top of that

Works fine on my r5 2600 rx480 machine :^)

Ikari
Yuropoor fellow here , can play on EU serveur or US east coast
Fight me 1V1

>payload
no thanks, payload shit restricts map movement.
>defuse
it's on Quake Champions already it's called slipgate/attack & defend. I like it now that it plays more like clan arena.

>no thanks, payload shit restricts map movement.
Might be an interesting combination though, if the map has enough space on either side of the payload for flanking.

>it's on Quake Champions already it's called slipgate/attack & defend. I like it now that it plays more like clan arena.
Tried that, gave up after a 16 minute queue. I'll give it another shot.

take your bootleg chinese overwatch out of here.

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i want to be the egg

this is not a good waifu quakebab

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nah I think payload/escort is more of a hero shooter thing as it needs bases for spawning and slower movement like TF2 or overcrap.
>Tried that, gave up after a 16 minute queue. I'll give it another shot.
user, most of QC' playerbase arranges custom games via steam and the other shitty furry purple software. I suggest you to join one of those groups. I play every night with other players on custom and we try all the game modes and stuff because quickplay sucks.

In fact, I don't know why QC has quickplay instead of a serverbrowser.

This is

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terrible

Now listen here fuckface

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Looks boring as fuck, how can anyone enjoy more than 20 minutes of this?

I thought the russian speaking Visor was badass. Russians are never not cool.

>unfunny screechy voiced stupid heroin addict with no tits
>made useless by 3/4 of the maps in the game
>noarmor
>strogg can crouch slide now too because fuck you

They gave him English lines with the newest update because they want to ruin everything.

Skill requirement gives quite a big high. Self improvement is a big drive to compete. You won't understand it just by watching.

If its stuttering its because you didnt install it on an SSD, I get 60fps constant with a 1050ti and a G4600.

It's still shit though

Trying it now and it seems alright. Could use a lot of work though, for example maps designed for the mode??? lmao

So it's like Tribes except elitism over FPS skill instead of skiing? Gotcha.

Wow, A&D is a lot of fun. I'm actually focusing on playing this game, something I've only ever done with QL. However, I gotta say, it feels a LOT easier to land rails and LG in this game than it does in QL.

So youre just writing in this fashion to sound like a massive faggot primadona who can't form an actual sentence surrounding the discussion? Gotcha.

Thought of a cool gun for this genre. Lightning gun except the longer you don't miss a shot with it the more damage it does.

ut3 was a perfectly good game, and it seems a lot of the people who refused to play it realize that now

your waifus are shit quakebabs

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sylux's gun from metroid prime hunters, then

a sure way to drown your forums in whiners

Really enjoying A&D but all I can think of is how much better it'd be with dedicated servers, an ELO system, and map voting. Also again QC is incredibly warpy compared to QL.

>300h is nothing for a multiplayer game
For a game that you like, sure. But 300 hours into a game that isn't good? Lmao, you'd have to be retarded to do that.

Halo 5 is good and packed with content

>imagine making every character neon green

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If that's all you care about why not play a sport?

Yeah before they removed the browser element it was pretty active - pub games going all the time in all game modes.

Also before they put in loadouts.

Shit was cash for a while. Super fun.

the lack of gore really killed it for me

why is the weapon design so much worse in this game than Q3?

>lightning gun beam and sound
>railgun design and sound

Only the shotgun and rocket launcher are alright.

to tempt you into buying the quake 1 LG and et:qw railgun

>tfw mm times are getting longer and longer
Rip quek