All jokes aside, what do you really think of these games?

Deltarune was the best Halloween present I ever got. Playing it blind along with the rest of you fags was the best.

deltarune
undertale
unrelated
Hmm...

>Undertale
Great
>Deltarune
Pandering to the furry/tumblr/reddit fanbase

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Good shit.

She's a REINDEER, their females do have horns.

Eh. They're fine but they have flaws.

>expecting a trust fund retard baby to know basic biology

>Undertale
overrated but great game
>deltarune ch1
Medicore
Atleast the music are nice though

do you expect trannies to know that?

Why do we have this thread everyday? You should know what Yea Forums thinks by now. Half of us hate it, and half of us have good taste.

Game of the decade

Undertale is one of the best games ever.

Deltarune isn't out yet. Chapter one is fine. Nowhere near Undertale level tho. The battles aren't as fun either

>basic biology
>for a fictional creature

I expect trannies who so much argument about "facts" to check their facts before making claims.
Just by googling "deltarune noelle", ALL results say she's a reindeer.
It also goes by simple logic that a monster with antlers who wears red and green, uses a candy cane shaped pencil, and its fucking named NOELLE HOLIDAY is obviously related to Christmas, and is therefore a reindeer.

Some of us aren't complete shut ins that circlejerk on Yea Forums every day like you

I really liked both of them when they first came out and I'm looking forward to the new deltarune chapters

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>raindeers
>fictional

>NOELLE HOLIDAY is obviously related to Christmas
woah dude, that's pretty racist.

im pretty sure they are

can you prove you're 18+ right now?

Undertale was a fun game I played through once. I thoroughly enjoyed it and was worth the money I paid for it. I feel like Deltarune could be of a similar vein, but I never played it so I can't make an assumption.

Are you sure about that?

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I think all Jews should hang.

Reindeer are real creatures, user. They’re literally just a type of deer

holy fugg

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Hehe, she's horny!

he based

I don't like how he's looking at me.

Love them

photoshopped

That's a siberian muskdeer.

I love both of them but I love Undertale a little more.

There’s been a ton of talk about these games lately on here, did Toby say something about releasing Deltarune soon or something?

What the fuck is this

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Godlike music
Shitty environments
Anime tier cringy characters
Fun Combats and experience overall

I was a little late to the party but thankfully I

Well what gender is that?

>did Toby say something about releasing Deltarune soon or something?
Sakurai went on forever during the last Smash broadcast about how he played Smash with Toby, and how he works for Gamefreak now. Every nintendies wet dream, and since Yea Forums is a Nintendo board, he is now a celebrity here.

>It's a real goddamn thing
I thought I completely made that up lol

Good experience.
Mediocre gameplay.
That's just my opinion though.

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Tumblrcore games
No thanks

I just REALLY hate Toby Fox's "Everybody just needs a friend" Make love not war Bullshit approach he takes to his games.

Do you want to see real deer pussy or something?

Dude reindeer literally exist

Ah yes I too remember the undertale genocide path in which I was friendly with everyone

Now user, you know that's a loaded question

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Like all things, Yea Forums loved it until it got popular. All the haters are mindless sheep trying way too hard to fit in.

Now give me those (You)'s, dumb tasteless idiots.

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Yeah and it's treated as "You're the bad guy for doing this. How dare you fight back and wanna get stronger. You psycho."

Toby is actually a part of Gamefreak now? I thought he was just making the music for that Town thing

Contrarians are really pathetic. Some people will never be happy. There's nothing even wrong with furry.

He's an Earthbound fanboy. Pretty much all of his design philosophy is based on it. What did you expect?

Only if you literally go out of your way to kill everything in every area which yes, is pretty psychotic.

just kill them if they start saying that

>durrr Yea Forums loved it!!!!
When the only two fags who had played it made a thread about it, this does not reflect all of Yea Forums you fucking retard.

there is only 3 people on Yea Forums in the first place so that's over 50%

i'm thinking it's pretty based

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And yet you're rewarded with exclusive lore on top of the two best battles in the game.

>There's nothing even wrong with furry.
that's wrong and we both know it

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Undertale anniversary was yesterday I think, Toby posted some screenshots. There was one of a new Dark World area.

There was a good write-up on it and how it works as an MKULTRA-tier social manipulation device, but I can't find it so here's a nearly as good write-up.

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I remember Toby's approach to his games too.

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Yeah there is nothing wrong with human male on female furry.
Though everything is wrong with gay furry

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Oh cool. I was really afraid the full Deltarune game would become vaporwave like Bayo 3 or Pikmin 4 after he said something about needing a team to complete it

Literally never played either, probably never will.

I don't even care about "muh reddit, muh fanbase", the game just doesnt interest me

Maybe chicks should start being as a hot as dudes then.

shit

That is subjective.

No way that’s real

There's everything wrong with furry.
t. a furry

Reindeer have antlers too, not horns

Undertale is good, Alphys/Undyne shit is weird and stupid. This facet, alone, immediately puts Deltarune on a whole 'nother level.

Literally why would you come in this thread then shithead

cuz the thread asked what i think :^)

I believe OP asked those who actually played them

Burn in Hell

I like that Undyne doesn't know who the hell she is even though the town is VERY small.

Imagine being this new.

>he doesn't know
youtube.com/watch?v=bqdA5jJGpdI&t=453
bask your eyes on its glory

wow the fanbase really is cancer lmao

I am being friendly with you user.

Finally beat undertale yesterday after years of putting it off, and goddamn Yea Forums is retarded. It was literally NOTHING like these autists would lead you to believe, the worst offence is it gets slightly cringe with the humor sometimes but the lore is very interesting, the music is FANTASTIC and the bullet hell gameplay is fun. Just don't talk to any of the fanbase who haven't even played the game and it's a great time.

Giant middle finger to all those shipfags. I love that Alphys is just a fucking loser this time around.

>Just don't talk to any of the fanbase who haven't even played the game and it's a great time.
Isnt that a requirement for every game these days now?

Really good games. Shame Yea Forums will shit on them because they're popular though and they're too insecure whenever they see an anthro character. I'm really excited for chapter 2. So Toby, release when? Keep up the good work. I know you browse Yea Forums so you might be lurking here.

You'd think so but Yea Forums is full of water-heads that try to conflate the "Offdanganstuck" hangers-on and secondaries with the game itself.

Absolutely but undertale ""fans"" are a special kind of cancer

a masterclass in pandering that will be taught for years to come. homostuck, twitter (formerly tumblr), Yea Forums at first with thick goat mom. Truly all bases were covered

Overrated, but also very good.
It doesn't do anything new, it just mixes up experiences stolen from obscure Japanese games that zoomers have never played and presents them in a new package. None of the fourth wall breaks are new, bullet hell isn't new, the choices aren't new.
But despite that, it's still a well made game, I can't deny that. I honestly want to hate it as much as the next guy, but it's simply not a bad game. The length is about right too, doesn't outstay its welcome.
The music is excellent.

I honestly don't care about the fans and I don't see why that should affect anyone's opinion of the game.

The stuff with Chara and Sans most certainly hasn't been done in other games. Especially Sans.

Wtf. I actually wanna play this now

I think it won't be 6 more years until Deltarune comes out. More like two or three.
I also think Susie is waifubait and will die horribly.

>Especially Sans
If you're talking about his awareness of the player's agency.
There's a fairly high profile yandere visual novel where you get a bad end and try to reload your save but the girl is so madly in love with you and determined to kill you she refuses to let you reload and deletes your other save files to make sure you stay with her forever.
It's very close to the same thing.

>:)

Baten Kaitos

They're great, can't wait for the last chapter of the trilogy, Nude Alert.

It's just as real as disappointing deltarune stuffing smut, my man.

That's a lotta words and no pics

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Undertale is OK as a game, though it's mostly a walking simulator without that run function. The most important part of it is its story/writing, which I ended up hating.

Because of that, I have no interest in Deltarune for the time being. I might check it out if it's ever completed though.

Great. Not the best fucking games ever like kids say, but it's decent gameplay with lots of lovable characters and good writing. Music is honestly the best part of it. Deltarune looks extremely promising, If it keeps up the quality of Chapter 1 and builds up like Undertale did it'll probably be the better game.

Someone post it

Undertale is probably goty. Deltarune not so much

Deltarune was vastly superior.

What you just described is more Flowey. I mentioned Sans.

What

Go on. I'm not gonna dig out my old GCN for this one.

Do i have to do any specific ending of undertale to play deltarune?

visual novels are not real games, user

Undertale was alright. Deltarune's prequel was incredibly lame and the full game is going to be a hot pile of shit.

No.

Kalas was lying to the player the entire game, pretending to be a JRPG protagonist when he's actually a villain. He used your god powers as a player to achieve his goals.

All Sans does is comment on your ability to reload, and maybe he reloads his own saves during his fight against you (at least I think that's what his timeskip attacks are supposed to be).
There's nothing particuarily more to Sans than his awareness of the situation.

It's pretty clear that Toby used various niche Japanese games as his inspiration and mixed them all together, it's pretty clear that visual novels in general inspired much of Undertale.

You heard me.

That's just the creative process in general. Most big franchises take directly from many sources.

Sans doesn't reload, he teleports. Flowey is the only one who reloads and you can see the Save State text confirming it.

The true ending, the only one that has the full credits sequence. Technically you don't need it to play Deltarune but it was designed for people that beat UT. Otherwise you'll miss a lot of the implications behind it.
Hell, even if you do beat it you might miss the most important implications if you didn't encounter certain secrets in UT, but at the end of the day they're inconsequential, for now at least.

Not really. While it features characters from Undertale, Chapter 1 had zero connection to the actual events of that game, so it basically mostly expected you to know who everyone is. That said, knowing Toby I wouldn't be surprised if the final game reads for Undertale save data to do something.

>I'LL SHOW THIS GUY I'M NOT SOME CRINGEY SPERMSKULL BY SHOVING MY DISGUSTING PORN IN HIS FACE! HA!

That's also not what Sans does, not at the end. That's what I meant by
>The stuff with Chara and Sans most certainly hasn't been done in other games. Especially Sans.
Sans lies, by omission, to the player. But not to further his own goals of conquest. It's out of a promise to Toriel not to harm you.
>All Sans does is comment on your ability to reload
And calls into question the obligatory or not goodness of someone with the power to reload the world at will. The most remarkable and effective aspect of Sans are the remarks on his own impotency in the face of the temporal paradoxes created by the "anomaly." It's so heartfelt and honest, not done in another game like it's done with Sans.
>But seeing what comes next, I can't afford not to care anymore...
>and maybe he reloads his own saves during his fight against you
Sans has the ability to teleport. He has no determination and thus cannot affect time.

The grossest part about this whole drawing are the muscles on an obese body desu

>People who make Susie fat.
Giving her big tits is almost as bad.

>Sans doesn't reload, he teleports.
Oh well that makes perfect sense then.

I understand, and I think he made a good product out of it. But I'm not as blown away as many other players seem to be because I'm aware of the kind of games he was inspired by and many western players don't seem to be so they mistakenly think Undertale is doing some revalatory things, when it isn't. I think that's why it ends up being overrated. But again, despite me being unimpresed in this regard, I still think what he made is good and worth the time it takes to play it. It's just not a groundbreaking masterpiece.

vampire deer you fucking retard

I know a game that did it better, more heartfelt and in 1/20th of the words.
>Twice as bright...
>...half as long. I gotta try.
>I know.

>Sans lies, by omission, to the player.
That's literally what Kalas does. He pretends to have amnesia and doesn't ever mention what he's actually trying to do since he knows the player is watching.
>But not to further his own goals of conquest.
That's not what Kalas wants. He's trying to fulfill a promise he made that just happens to clash with what the player would want.

Keep getting more specific if you like, but Sans wasn't anything new.

Unironically love em both. Didn't think I'd like them but when I finally started I couldn't stop playing

Same with Undyne
I love tits of all kinds and sizes, but shit just ain't aesthetically right

>He has no determination and thus cannot affect time.
He clearly does, otherwise he wouldn't be fighting you, he also lies constantly in his fight about his determination. He lies about going to Grillby's.
He doesn't want to look like he cares but his actions show that is anything but the case.

It can work for Susie if it's treated realistically, but fat or muscular is just objectively wrong.

>Keep getting more specific if you like, but Sans wasn't anything new.
Is Kalas a skeleton?
No, didn't think so.
See, Sans is a unique character!

That's one other game, and funnily enough it's also gotten with the bad path, but ultimately it's not the same thing as Sans. And it's not a brevity thing, it's a re-contextualization of all his actions with the revelation that he knows what's going on.

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I don't like Toby Fox using same characters and same structure in a game again. This is kind of like shit AAA/Holywood use to ship more units. I mean do we really needed to see Sans again in a game?

Undyne is for fairly sizeable tits and delicious abs

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Slightly out of shape tall nerd with fairly large boobs Susie > Thin beanpole Susie > Strongthick Susie > Athletic Susie > literal garbage > bimbo Susie > Fat Susie

Before it was Sans Undertale.
This is Sans Deltarune.

>That's literally what Kalas does
You misunderstood. I wasn't saying that to "one-up" this Kalas fellow. It was a preamble to:
>It's out of a promise to Toriel not to harm you.
>He's trying to fulfill a promise he made that just happens to clash with what the player would want.
Does that promise happen to involve Kalas' knowledge of the cyclical nature of the world and the bottomless contempt Sans feels for the anomaly/the player and his desire to murder him?
>Keep getting more specific if you like
Well yes. Specificity defines us.

Idk what stuffing smut means

>He clearly does
Based on what? Keep in mind he doesn't remember resets, he's just really good at reading faces AND supposedly has some kind of machine that allows or allowed him to monitor the flow of timelines.
>otherwise he wouldn't be fighting you
What's the correlation? He fights you because he realized if you keep going you're not going to reset, the timeline is going to stop entirely just like those other timelines he was monitoring ended abruptly. For him, every fight is the first, but he treats it as if it might not be.

Undertale is a game with a lot of stuff i don't like (glorifying pacifism being the main one), but overall it was meant to be really experimental and honestly, as an experiment it works really well toshow some potential for polishing the ideas it presents.
Deltarune seems to be a polished undertale so i am gonna follow (possibly buy it) when the time comes in.

fucking newfag, the first week the game came out there were tons of threads discussing all the secrets and shit

I had stuff to say but hit it.

>Based on what?
His actions.
He wouldn't be fighting you at all if he wasn't sufficiently determined.

unironic masterpiece and the shitty fanbase claims were greatly overblown

I prefer more of an otter mode/hurdler kind of Undyne, y'know, more fish & warrior like

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Determination is specifically the power to alter fate, I.E. save and load. It has nothing to do with someone's actual disposition or will to do something. A monster with determination ends up melting, as seen with the Amalgamates and Undyne if you kill her.
You may be confusing the in-game meaning of Determination with the standard dictionary definition.

After some time i feel like undertale lacked some depth, substance, i don't know. At first i thought it's a 10/10 vidya and that it will stay in my head forever, but now i've forgot about it almost entirely. I can remember many good vidya that stayed with me, i'll forever remember mgs2, nier, umineko, talos principle, many others, but undertale is surprisingly not one of 'this kind' of games. It's too simple, emotions it provokes are strong but cheap, it relies on making you temporarily attached to characters rather than offering an actual dramatic story, character motivations are often comically simplified, blah blah

still, amazing vidya, definitely worth a play

You're confusing disposition with the in-universe stuff that lets you change the universe.

>Does that promise happen to involve Kalas' knowledge of the cyclical nature of the world and the bottomless contempt Sans feels for the anomaly/the player and his desire to murder him?
No, but we're talking about what Sans does (deceives and monitors the player before revealing himself and attempting in vain to defy him), not why he does it.
They do the same thing with different covers (lolamnesia and lolimlazy) and different goals.

I like em. They're cute and funny and fun.

Ah, I see there actually is a man of taste in this thread

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Making someone fat.

This body type is canon, except she has weak baby arms and less hair.

>No
Well there you go.
>not why he does it.
But that's the crux of my whole bringing up Sans' uniqueness in the face of user's post asserting otherwise. The pathos and catharsis of Sans coupled with the fourth wall antics, make him the best and most unique part of Undertale. People really lay on thick his battle, or Chara, and those are really good, but it's got nothing on what Sans' emotionality brings to the table. That's why I wasn't satisfied with
>Well this VN does it
Because that's just a gimmick. This Kalas guy sounds interesting, and I'll give Baiten Kaitos a look on Dolphin for sure. Never even heard of it, strangely.

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>game is about a whimiscal adventure and learning the meaning of friendship
>fanbase: SEX SEX SEX I WANNA FUCK THE LITTLE BOY/GIRL I WANNA FUCK THE FISH I WANNA FUCK THE FLOWER SEXXXXX
>Deltarune: well since everyone just wants to see relationship bullshit we might as well just start forcing it off the get-go instead of making you work through 80% of the game to get an ambiguous bonding scene
Fuck off /utg/

>Someone calls someone else a faggot 9 years ago
>Gets shitted on and fired from job

>Toby calls someone a faggot on his romhack
>Nothing happens

How does he do it

I dunno, those arms look pretty normal to me
And she has hair. It's all just tucked up under scale-coloured swimming cap worn so the hair doesn't affect her duties

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>well since everyone just wants to see relationship bullshit
deltarune subverts it constantly and the only real pointing to it is susie becoming your friend, noelle girl-lusting after susie, and ralsei (the red herring character with suspicious actions) being a big twink for you, none of the undertale characters know who you are and undyne outright doesn't know who alphys is

While in Hussie's basement he absorbed all of Hussie's apathy and Team Special Olympics-era edge.

That's already three times as much of it, and right at the fucking prologue. It's Homestuck all over again.

Toby's gay. So faggot isn't a slur.

carried by the soundtrack

I'm gonna love when Deltarune is a better game overall and retards treat it as lesser simply because it isn't as relatable to as wide of an audience.

even from the first chapter deltarune is more relatable for me because in the short time I was in public school i was the weird kid and my mom pulled me out then divorced my dad.

It feels more personal from the get go and has a better sense for sewing plot points early.

It quite likely inspired Undertale.
It undoubtedly inspired DDLC.

At least Undertale did something a little bit different with the idea instead of copying it wholesale.

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>games

Toby just ignores any and all Internet drama, which makes him immune to it. It only has power if you give it any.

>think

>jokes

>It quite likely inspired Undertale.
Cool your jets, Rambo. UT was borne of Earthbound hacks.
>a little bit different
m8...

>being this delusional
your weeb shit did not do it first

Ah yes and he just coincidentally decided to include other VN gimmicks and danmaku and JRPG. It's purely circumstancial.
Of course.

Of course UT takes inspiration from VNs. The fucking dates? Of course it takes inspiration from bullet hell, from JRPGs. But that VN that barely anyone outside of Japan has played or heard of did not inspire UT. That was Earthbound.

Honestly, probably. A lot of the VN elements seem to be more mainstream stuff like Ace Attorney, and a lot of the Mets comes from Moon Remix (his admission) and Mother 3.

I think they aight. I much prefer Deltarunes combat as it feels like a warioware minigame and more like an rpg. However I do still think the graphics look like fucking vomit

This VN is fairly well known specifically because of this fourth wall break.
Anyone interested in weeb shit, like Toby clearly is, has heard of it.

I enjoyed Undertale and am looking forward to Deltarune.
My favourite character in Undertale is Papyrus and in Deltarune it is Lancer.

Onions games.

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tumblrshit and youtube e-celeb bait for zoomers and bronies

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why is every shitpost an anime smug girl gif in these threads

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And people say owlbears are ridiculous.

>Best version of Megalovania
>For the hardest version of an Earthbound boss
I'm thinking based.

I sure haven't.

Same here, I got hopes we will get Papyrus as a party member.

lol, sounds like your average jrpg to me

RA RA RASPUTIN
LOVER OF THE RUSSIAN QUEEN

Haven't played Deltarune, Undertale was neat though. A shame the fanbase is so awful, but that's bound to happen when your game has furry appeal.

Very good games, most of the fanbase is trash and most of the people who hate it have never played the game, but hate the fanbase, which is cancer

Please don't be this dumb in the future.

Undertale is great and filled with soul
Deltarune chapter 1 was pretty good too, i hope the rest of the game is just as good

None of you have actually played it and just shit on it specifically because of the fandom and the unsubtle morality messages, haven't you

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I mean it's fairly obvious that's the case for anyone that mayorly shits on it, either that or they only played a single run and called it a day.

Undertale is one of my favorite games of all time. The fans suck but that's not Toby's fault

Ironic,Undertale is also Pandering to the furry/tumblr/reddit fanbase

This.

Same, it gets worse with every remix.

Undertale is like an onion, it has several layers.

Love em. That's about it.

Undertale fans are the bronies of videogames

Okay but this isn't about the fans, this is about the game.

Alright. Undertale isn't the world changing thing its fans make it out to be and when you look at it too close you see the choice-based system for what it is and the path the meta narrative expected you to take. It's still a fun little game with a nice idea for avoiding enemy attacks.
Deltarune's demo is basically an upgrade in all the places Undertale was lacking and an improvement in all the others, so it's very promising.

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I like to think of the dev feverishly sitting in his stinkroom sweating over how he can be "clever" with an anagram, finally coming upo with "deltarune," then feverishly wracking his brain on how he'll make that work in context for sweet "he's such a genius omg" points.

Is deltarune even finished?

If you read what Toby said, he actually worked on Deltarune first, he made Undertale instead because it was shorter of a game.
No, but it got some traction yesterday because Toby posted some updates on the game progress.

SANS XD

Yea Forums also loved FNAF when it came out

Toby probably took from Moon rather than that VN, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't hear of it, he's definitely got a power level though considering he whipped out the ZUN horns for Genocide Undyne. Doki Doki Literature Club took that VN's gimmick wholesale though.

That would be TF2.

Indie dev bootlickers in general are always so cringe, and they all sound 12.

Doesn't mean he didn't sit there crying for weeks trying to come up with an anagram, either way you cut it, one just looks like the retarded, reaching afterbirth of the other.

Undertale was the most I was excited for and enjoyed a game on launch in years, Deltarune is looking to be the same. That said I hate how the fanbase on Yea Forums is all furry porn.

They're good. Hoes mad.

>I mean do we really needed to see Sans again in a game?
yes?

Even then, none of the returning characters are a mayor focus at all, they are there but I can tell Toby won't be using them mayorly with maybe Papyrus being the exception

boring and pretentious games.

Toby is his own boss, he also made something people genuinely love, so they forgive him for it or don't mind it

More excited for Deltarune. Undertale was okay at best, but DR looks to be adressing most of my complaints towards UT outside of its overall difficulty. It's a jRPG so I shouldn't get my hopes up in mainline story stuff getting challenging. At least the optional fights look promising going off Jevil.

Kino

It hurts me that people see it as a downgrade because they're comparing a whole game to the first chunk of one.

Deltarune was mentioned in the first game.
He just likes anagrams.

Nobody tell him what Asriel Dreemurr is.

He moved to Japan. Beyond the reach of western indie scene, mobs and fandoms.

How is this power possible
I always have an urge to shout my political opinions, how do I just stop caring

A. Toby was a literal child when he wrote that, so nobody can actually hold it against him.
B. Everybody who knows about the Earthbound Halloween Hack doesn't care.
C. Toby's collaborators know he's a meme loving fuck who absolutely browse(d/s?) Yea Forums. They don't care. Fuck, Kenju used to be buddies with GraphiteKnight.
D. He made the bad guy say it.

Step 1: grow up

nice dog

It helps he was literally underage when making EHH and (while still under 21) The Baby is You.

couldnt get into undertale
never played deltarune

Undertale is okay. The battle system is creative and the aesthetics (music, sprites, etc) are fun.

That said, I don't understand why meta narratives in video games tend to attract so much attention. They aren't anything new, and the way Undertale implements it (multiple timelines for different playthroughs) has been done do death.

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Name all the examples of "has been done to death" now think how many of those are popular enough and not entry level to the meta narrative concept.

It's exactly how DDLC also got popular, entry level Visual Novel that is short and easy to digest.

I'd watch out though.
He has some very dodgy friends from that scene

Holy shit I just remembered Yu-No comes out in less than a month.

Undertale was good
unless it somehow completely shits the bed Deltarune will be a lot better
youtube.com/watch?v=9Ma-GfUeGnY

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undertale was fun and deltarune is unfinished so I can't really have an opinion on it until toby gets off his lazy ass and finishes it.

>Yea Forums NEVER LIKED UNDERTALE
>DR demo drops
>whole board covered in threads about it

>Yea Forums is one person

>>>www.tumblr.com

>how did this lazy piece of shit not finish an entire RPG in one year?

>Yea Forums NEVER LIKED UNDERTALE
I remember countless goatmom threads

Considering how long he said he'd take to finish it AND how long it took him to finish undertale, I don't believe for a second he made the deltarune demo in a year.

reminder that Toby was busy making more progress in the Japanese gaming industry in one year than most western developers have over decades

Undertale was legit one of the best games I've played in recent years. Deltarune was good, but too short, but that's understandable. I see it more as a sales pitch to try and get some support.

>reading comprehension
The demo was a proof of concept, just like the UT demo, which was ~1/5 of that game. My point was expecting him to be done a year after announcing he was starting is silly.

You want the characters to be happy about you going out of your way to kill them all?

Does he really need more support though? unless you meant morale one

Obvious shoop. That's a cow

I think he was very nervous about pitching DR, its obviously a project that mean a lot to him. I think he had originally planned on working on it as solo as possible and then changed his mind at some point along the way, and I'm glad he did.

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He must be one of those kind of people who played Undertale as a true RPG, aka "games taught me to kill to see number go up!!! why not here!!!"

I mean, he's a single dude. Even if he has all the funds in the world, delegating some of the non-creative workload would probably be a big load off his shoulders. Who funds him anyway? Does he have a patreon or something?

They're good.
I assume the point of this topic is to read all the negative comments though

The whole "all playthroughs happened because the multiple world theory is real" is everywhere, I'm not going to list everything. Look at VN works such as Muv Luv, Zero Escape, Ever17 / Remember 11 and FSN for examples.
File fuckery and condemning the player for evil actions? It's nothing new. I'm not saying that Undertale is bad nor that tried narratives are stupid, just that the people saying that the meta narrative is unique and fresh are wrong.

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>Who funds him anyways
Literally everyone who bought the game, looking at SteamSpy stats: Owners: 2,000,000-5,000,000 copies sold, which even if we go by only 2 Million is a massive ammount, that without counting the game was also sold without DRM, on PS3/4/Vita, the Switch, the soundtrack AND with all the merchandise that sells out instantly as soon it gets stock.

I dont like the bullet hell system, but it is ok.

I've never played Undertale and don't plan to. I can watch a long-play of the various story paths and get the same experience. I just don't like bullet-hells, and I'm not above admitting I find them difficult.
Deltarune, however, is made that much better by it's inclusion of the bullet-hell minigame mixed into the normal turn based combat. It takes two subpar methods of battle and turns them into sheer perfection.
Also, Susie a cute.

Thanks for proving my point though, except Zero Escape (to an extent), all of those are not well known pieces of media, which is why Undertale succeeded, it introduced many newcomers to the concept of meta narratives. But yeah I get what you mean.

>all playthroughs happened because the multiple world theory is real
undertale doesn't do that though

I dunno dude the Papyrus and Muffet boss fights are pretty fun and worth the experience imo. Same with Jevil, at least for trying him.

He wants Deltarune to have better production values and it's clearly planned to be a longer game than Undertale was. He wants a team to help him get the whole thing done sooner than later, but he's also reasonably afraid of what letting other people in on your dream project can do to it. He's basically said he's handling the music and writing and wants to delegate art, programming, etc. to other people.

They're all quite well known, unless you're suggesting that anything below the popularity of Super Mario is obscure.

Also Metal Gear has some extremely well known fourth wall breaks that include save files and hardware.

Very rarely if ever does properties doing things with complexity get popular. That is why MGS2, Undertale, Spec Ops:The Line, and Stanley's Parable get hoisted up so much for their simplistic meta narrative stuff instead of more worthy titles.

It's a good call, I just hope he doesn't ends up going with a big name publisher, as based Devolver Digital is at times, I wouldn't really like to see it's name when starting Deltarune when it's out, or god help us if somehow it ends up in the EGS

>more worthy titles.
Such as?

Metal Gear Rising: Reveangance

Nigger you are basically comparing orange juice with tooth paste.

I'm gonna write you up for that one, partner.

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>A monster with determination ends up melting, as seen with the Amalgamates and Undyne if you kill her.
Sans isn't a monster though, he's a human wearing a mask.
Why else would he bleed?

He likes to drink ketchup and it goes to his bones

I hate having to invoke this fucking theory, but...ketchup

I like them.

I like 'em. Undertale was pretty neat for a short game with such a simple system, the story was entertaining and had a couple good twists towards the end and the soundtrack was amazing. It also did a good job at setting the mood with such simple graphics. It was pretty easy for a bullet hell game but it kept switching it up so it wasn't that boring. More of a "figure out the patterns every time you find a new enemy and you'll have no problem" kinda deal.
Deltarune is shaping up to be more and better.

It’s Ketchup, plus you hear him disappear off camera in the same manner as all the other monsters turning to dust

>bimbo susie
Not if you slowly are able to get her interested in more girly things over time because she knows you like to see her in them

It's obvious he's just spending his own money on artists and programmers he likes. He got one of his big inspirations to do characters for Deltarune and half the undertale artbook is him talking about artists he poached.

I actually got the theory that he is actually a Darkling or whatever the people from Lancer's world are called. Deltarune does a few mentions to blood as a whole. First time is Lancer with the "gonna beat you smash you into blood!" giving the hint that the people from that world do bleed, which is solidified by how hard the game tries really hard to never let you see someone die in there, even if you fight, everyone runs away before they are killed. Then we got that one monster at the town that asks Kris "how does it feel to be made out of blood?" so monsters not having blood is still a concept in Deltarune too.

He just likes wordplay

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Does... does it actually take you that long to come up with an anagram?

Adding to this, Darkners are the only ones that have color in their dialogue portraits. Even in the Dark World Susie's portrait remains black and white because she's a Lightner.
But Sans is inherently black and white. So even if he IS a Darkner his dialogue portrait would remain the same.
I don't buy into the "Sans is a Darkner" thing yet, but it was interesting to note.

One thing that doesn't fit is that you'd have expected Asriel to find out when he absorbed Sans's soul. Unless darkners and monsters have the same kind of soul.

Right this too, the one thing that doesn't closes completely is Papyrus, unless Sans is not his actual brother by blood, getit? and instead is just a way they both call each other because how close they are, like Kamina and Simon in Tengen Toppa.

Eh, I mean you are right, but either they are the same or it´s not such a big deal for Asriel since it's just one soul, plus what was he going to do? "whoa there stop the rainbow, this guy's soul is weird what the fuck"

There can also simply be things that Toby overlooked, we still don't really know if he's a Darkner or if he's just trying to bamboozle us

How does this theory add Papyrus into the equation, considering he's his brother?

Considering Undertale as a whole, I highly doubt he overlooked something, the fact you could go way back with the umbrella and the dialogue for all NPCs would change blew my mind, the attention to detail there I swear.

Mentioned it here

We don't have any known metaverse rules. It sounds like a copout but it's already clear from DR that things are a more than a little bit different.

>some random virgin comes out of nowhere and drops one of the best vidya OSTs ever, putting many old pros to shame
How did Toby do it?

Imagine growing up on here. One of us was bound to break through.

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Just listening to a bunch of vidya tunes, unironically.

>Susie is the Warrior
>Ralsei is the Mage
>Noelle is the Healer
What's Kris?

Deltarune chapter 2 is being released this halloween
screencap this

God I hope not.
Annual releases would be shit.

Ye it does, Toby told me himself

A demon

The entire story would be extremely easy to predict if chapter 2 is released on its own
You already can with chapter 1 alone

How deep into the game will the cult section be?

Toby already said he's releasing the whole game at once. No episodic releases beyond Chapter 1 which acts like a demo.

Undertale? Incomplete- glad I pirated- still enjoyed
Deltarune? Not played.

>encounter Sans in Deltarune
>he doesn't even seem to care I'm here
>doesn't recognize me even when I explicitly make it obvious I know him
So is Deltarune a prequel?

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It's very possible Deltarune is whatever place/universe Sans was trying to get back to in Undertale before giving up.
Or it's just unrelated.
Who knows.
Probably Toby Fox, but he's not gunna talk.

>Gerson is dead
>Asriel is alive and at college age
>MK, Catty and Bratty are older
It's not a prequel, it's not a sequel.

>A is highlited in undertale
>R highlughter in deltarune
A for Asriel
R for Ralsei

He's just fucking with you

Toby himself said it's its own separate thing.

died appereantly

even if it is good the fanbase will forever put me off of it.

i was never a big fan of cave story or homestuck anyway

It could be a prequel in the way that it ends in the universe being remade
>believing Toby

It's own separate universe. Go read the statement again. A connection is well within the realm of possibility, but obviously not a certainty.

>Sans is being honest.
Doubt

Susie is a barbarian or berserker.
Kris is a fighter. Or maybe paladin or cavalier if you want to get more specific.

>believing random headcanon

Field of Hopes and Dreams used to be my favorite area theme but Scarlet Forest really grew on me.

>Incomplete
Mind expanding on this? While I agree the genocide route felt a bit lackluster at times (one shotting most bosses excepts Undyne/Sans) I think Undertale was a pretty complete package.

Without the game, there would be no fans, and it says something about the game if the fans are this obnoxious.

Why would a dev spoil their own game? Plus Toby is a massive troll and loves to fuck with people.

Ralsei's post-reveal portrait sucks and I'm mad we have to suffer it for almost a whole game.

He's probably still miffed that there was no hard mode beyond the first temple.

Good.

How is defining a setting spoilers?

>Susie is a barbarian or berserker.
That's typically what Warrior means in DnD derivatives.

Field of Hopes and Dreams is just too fucking groovy for me. Maybe I'll listen to Scarlet Forest for a while later and see if I also grow to like it.

He means he didn't finish it, retard.

Because it would be more satisfying if a solid connection was made later, within the game's story instead of Toby just going "lol yeah it's totally a prequel/sequel"?

And Hussie said the Alpha/Beta timelines were their own seperate things too.

>random headcanon

Is it just me or is deltarune an anagram of undertale?

I thought it might grow on me but nope, I still don't like it.

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It's actually an anagram of Nude Later

Some kind of weird reset happened.
Susie's the Mad Dummy. Like, literally.

Got into it because a friend recommended the soundtrack for a listen, bought the game played it through like i would any RPG and found it lacking.

Then i did pacifist and actually enjoyed that and got most of the way into genocide but saw how many i would have to kill and didn't know about murder bridge so i stopped.

Deltarune was enjoyable, having sections be in a town and the dark world i think is really neat, it has me optimistic for part two and i hope high hopes it will be good.

Both are good.
Maybe a bit overhyped but that's never really a valid criticism as it has nothing to do with the game itself

They're both unrelated.

Good, Ralsei sucks.
Susie is Suzy.

You don't see Suzy because she's fucking dead.

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Yeah, I seriously fucking hope he puts his hat back on.

I hope he goes back to the hat/shadowy figure, I dislike using the words but it's literally soul and souless

He looks fine.
You act as if Undertale is known for its graphical fidelity and detail.

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>Undertale
>Deltarune
>unrelated
Toby is such a fucking troll holy shit, how did I miss this

Toby doesn't engage in internet or twitter drama. Plus he's self-employed

the horns and ears in ralsei's portrait are completely different

It's a downgrade from black Ralsei and half of them look awful. I'm not asking for masterworks, just competency.

>Fan of Earthbound and find the game just fucking fun when it came out
>And then...the fanbase happened
youtube.com/watch?v=nR31ymMSUA0

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>caring about the community around a single player game
Why do brainlets do this? Just don't engage if you don't want to, no one is forcing you to play with other people.

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Skeleton should have been in Smash.

The fans are directly responsible for Deltarune being pandershit.

Except it isn't. Noelle is gonna lose the Susiebowl.

>being pandershit.
....what? How is Deltarune pandershit?
Also Toby said he's had the idea of Deltarune before he even created UT

I actually think this is pretty cool, and there is much, MUCH worse things the fanbase made on youtube.

Fuckin kino

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Massively overrated 100% but it's not a bad game

What if there's a genocide route in Deltarune

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The wrong skeleton got in smash

>it's not one of the ones where Sans starts to sing badly
Thank god

>Tumblrina artist rant in the video description
They'd better be a fucking damaged white girl (girl)

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god i want to fuck asriel

Hat Ralsei is the best character portrait out of both games. It's a damn noticeable downgrade

There's not. You can't even kill anyone in the demo.

The only thing more overrated than Sans and Megalovania is Breath of the Wild

Have sex, dilate and fuck jannies.

You're damn right.
Genocide route was a mistake.

The reincarnation of the homestuck fandom, but unfortunately mixed with the normalfags and minecraft creepypasta kiddies. The game itself is fantastic and is a bit of a wayback machine to another era, but its cancerous fanbase brings it down considerably.

I love the music but 2016 and 2017 were cancer because of it all. also when i found out they were mostly OCs it ruined it for me, don't even hate furries but something about trying to secretly shove a fetish in my face pretending its not grosses me out.

>That essay in the video intro
Definitely is.

What if it's the ONLY route

Undertale is the HHH of video games. It's an 8/10 hyped as a 10/10 thus coming across as a 7/10.

>the idea
that can mean anything.

They are just ok

Oh you're just insane. Gotcha

The fuck is HHH

yea the music was pretty good
youtube.com/watch?v=MobkO51msMI

Horseless Headless Horseman?

A wrestler you dumb mark

Not that user, but Ralsei is pretty much cute UwU goat boy, made perfectly for the people in utg

what is this

Good thing he will die.

Undertale was great, don't feel the need to play Deltarune though.

Short for the horned reaper?

One word: Zoomers

>also when i found out they were mostly OCs it ruined it for me
what did he mean by this

>human male on female furry
Disgusting.

Hero

How the fuck an I supposed to know user meant Triple H and not a movie with three Hs?

I cannot stop listening to youtube.com/watch?v=aiIbv74bHKQ and it's making me mad.

disgustingly based more like

Music is talented in its making but predictable and pedantic in concept. People praised it up and down but every song sounded like it was made by the books and had nothing exciting or truly unique about it. Reminded me of those people who are really successful writers and they're legitimately skilled in both storytelling and writing but they stick to writing basic dreck to feed an established audience without ever doing anything original or new.
All the "twists" in the story were predictable.
All the characters were predictable.
The jokes weren't very funny beyond good comedic timing. The gameplay was good but so basic that it becomes boring very quickly.

Undertale had several homosexual pairings, Deltarune has implied homosexual pairings. This is very clearly done solely to appeal to the tumblr shipping fanbase who comprise of nothing but literal cattle-humans who are as fat as they are stupid.

I would call both "good" games in the sense that when you go down to a cheap supermarket and buy some cheese it tastes like it should and doesn't come with mold on it you consider that to be "good" cheese.

I liked the fact that even a year after discovering Undertale I was still learning new stuff about it. A hidden room, a new interaction, a clever joke I missed. And it was the same for Deltarune. Things you wouldn't normally find unless you autistically search for them. Toby just packed so much shit into his games and I personally appreciate small unnecessary details. It made the world feel more alive and ever-changing. It's nothing revolutionary, but I really like it when I can tell that a lot of effort has been put into something. And for what it is, it's great.

What ending did you go for?

I ended up with neutral first because I forgot to be friends with undyne, went for true pacifist right after. Part of me wants to jump right back in to do a genocide run so I get the whole experience but also I feel like it would be sort of a shitty note to end my experience on.

What's more important to you, user? Experiencing what you want to experience, or feeling that, just because you can, that means you have to?

I feel you and I was the same, I won't tell you what to do but just gonna say that if you are looking for a complete different range of emotions and experience, try the genocide run.

>managed to die to Toriel trying to speed up the fight so I can backstab her easier
>that face she makes realizing what she did
Fucking nice, I'll get you in a minute Goatmom

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Are you replaying the game or going for Genocide?

Genocide, already did True Pacifist

I'm really particular about games, but at least I'm not pretentious enough to say all this bullshit instead of "it's too basic, it should try to be more creative."

I could never manage to get her to kill me.

Cool, I assume you know the requirements already, also a small neat thing I recommend you to do, when you get to Muffet, instead of fighting her normally, just keep dodging until the end (and then kill her instead of sparing ofc), her dialogue completely changes through out the fight.

I found out about 72 from being linked from a twitter thread from his city song tease. I can't stop listening. Am I slowly developing a thirst for weeb tracks?

You have to do it on the attack where all her fireballs gather on the bottom apparently, and have to have 3 HP left

Is it weeb? I don't really play many jrpgs and the ones I do have rather different aims with their soundtrack (basically Souls). If this is how more typical jrpgs usually do their music, I might actually start to get into them.

pretty bad games, but if you like trashy anime tropes and story based shit, you probably love it

haha I want to fuck a spider haha what haha

I hate this fact so much

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post yfw you played Deltarune on the day of release when you still didn't know it was Deltarune and Field of Hopes and Dreams started playing
Honestly glad I didn't wait, discovering that it was a game at all was a fucking ride.

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>some autistic nigger comes in and complains that the game isn't too basic

How about instead I explain exactly why I think something is why it is so I don't have some turbofaggot immediately start this cyclical argument bullshit over some trash nobody cares about?

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It's an actual track from a Japanese artist's album he composed and sung a couple lines in english for.

youtube.com/watch?v=poKI_MY0Bkw.

At the very least it's better vocals than The Baby is You

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what

Deltarune release was teased as a "Survey" thingie, people didn't expected an actual game behind it

Cheese metaphors don't make your argument better.

the demo was really vaguely teased as a "survey program" like a day before it came out

Deltarune came out through a Twitter post by Toby, in which he teased an undefined thing, then gave a download link for something called SURVEY_PROGRAM. That was Deltarune but no one knew that at the time.

I can't believe Papyrus is fucking dead

Undertale is a boring game that too many people give a pass because of WOAAAH META stuff and a good soundtrack
I didn't play Deltarune because I hated Undertale

Damn, Toby is actually pretty good at backup singing. RIP Knight #74. Hopefully Knight #75 figures it out sooner and avenges you.

>a group of people in a dedicated thread about a demo liked the demo so not a single person can possibly ever dislike the full game
I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS SHITPOST

>and the bullet hell gameplay is fun
You clearly haven't played any bullet hell games if you seriously think that you can call undertale one. It never gets worse than a touhou (one of the easiest bullet hells) stage 1 boss's patterns

UT is my favorite indie game next to Hotline Miami 1+2, DR is a pretty good first chapter too, i trust Toby to make a decent game.
Fish pussy best pussy

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I thought Deltarune was more fun to play and i'm pretty sad that it likely isn't its own thing and will have some direct connection to Undertale instead of just being some alternate universe reusing characters

The game is fun if you like shitty rpgmaker games and romhacks. It hits a lot of good points amid some mediocre aspects. It's like a purse, there's nothing in there for you.

It's possible to be both.

>It's like a purse, there's nothing in there for you.
I don't understand what you're saying here.

And he believed in you

undertale was a very neat little concept with a little too much cringy tumblr bullshit characters

I like deltarune's combat a lot more than undertale's, the jevil fight was incredibly fun, but I feel like the undertale "execution points" and "level of violence" gimmicks don't fit the improved party-based gameplay and might end up holding it back.

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Do you play romhacks? Weird indie RPGs like OFF or Hylics? The occasional VN? If not, you aren't really the target audience, much like the contents of a woman's purse.

protip: sans, papyrus, and gaster and you are the same people from the first game, but everything else that happens is a completely different timeline.

trash

I'd be cool with that except (You) aren't Chara because everything directed at (You) was said to Chara in UT and Chara is clearly separate in the intro to DR. Unless I'm confused and there's some divide there, the whole genocide ending is a mindfuck on multiple levels.

a man needs a sauce

you, as in literally you the player

We don't know that for sure though.

you mean the guy who abuses some unknown form of teleportation power, has a bedroom door exactly the same as the quick travel doors from deltarune, and is the only character beyond fucking flowey and chara who is actually capable of talking directly to you in the fucking menu screen.

I get neighbor kids to play while I lounge and eat grapes. The meta is too much to bear.

this is literally an azumanga daioh joke

I hate Toby Fox physically, I dislike that kind of man. He has the Chaplin disease. That particular combination of arrogance and timidity sets my teeth on edge. He is arrogant. Like all people with timid personalities, his arrogance is unlimited. Anybody who speaks quietly and shrivels up in company is unbelievably arrogant. He acts shy, but he’s not. He’s scared. He hates himself, and he loves himself, a very tense situation. It’s people like me who have to carry on and pretend to be modest. To me, it’s the most embarrassing thing in the world—a man who presents himself at his worst to get laughs, in order to free himself from his hang-ups. Everything he does on the screen is therapeutic.

>I
Stopped reading there, who cares about what you think?

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Sounds like a (you) problem kiddo.