Was this the peak of the car combat genre?

Was this the peak of the car combat genre?

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THREE MONTHS IN THE NUTHOUSE

Yes, but it was a double-edged sword, much like F-Zero GX. We'll never get anything better.

IT WAS THE LONGEST I HAD EVER BEEN CONFINED.

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TMB=TM2>Head On>TM1>TM (PS3)=Small Brawl>>>>>>TM3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>TM4

I think black's iterations of sweet tooth was hands down the best. I just can't put my finger on why.

He's very intelligent.

Since everyone was insane it just highlighted him more.
Also Megatron the Ice Cream Truck

Cause black was more cinematic than the previous games, it was a more realistic darker take on the series and really help usher in a new era of games for the ps2. It's amazing how well written it was for a car combat game, jaffe really made it feel like you were in a nightmare. The aesthetic too really helped, all the vehicles looked terrifying and the locales you battled in were great setpieces.

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I just realized the front of the truck is supposed to look like a face.

Would you have done what he did if put in his position?

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>cannibalize your dead squad mate
or
>starve and die and agonizing death
Can I just slit my wrists and bleed out instead?

If you're a faggot sure.

Don't act like there was, or IS much competition.

Guess I'll bleed out then.

That's cause car combat was a niche genre to begin with.

Yeah the ps3 version felt very lackluster in comparison.

Not him but I'm pretty sure thats the same sweet tooth from black.

It isn't, the tm ps3 title appears to be a combination of the black and "colorful" tm universe.

vigilante 8

Well I guess you're right, tm 2012 did feel a lot less serious in tone than tm:b.

Friendly reminder.

youtube.com/watch?v=grjU7dRqBjM

Did anyone else play Vigilante 8?

I know it made me miss Twisted Metal

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Why? That game looks like shit

This looks fun, is it any good?

I preferred Vigilante 8, but TMB was certainly a fantastic game.

It's easily the game of the decade, though admittedly the car movement doesn't feel like proper driving, which I do think gets in the way a little bit.

TM:B servers are still active on ps2 afaik.

Yes. Only problem is that it's too short.

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Eh, Head-On was still good as least. If you mean a darker game like OP then ya, shit out of luck.

>the chad plow vs the virgin charge

I'M CALYPSO AND I THANK YOU FOR PLAYING TWISTED METAL

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I've only played Small Brawl. Do they all play like janky garbage or was that one just shit?

>grants your wish only if you have bad intentions
>fucks you if you have good intentions

what the FUCK is his problem?

Y-You too calypso!

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He was quite literally an absolute madman.

He was a supreme gentleman who just wanted to watch the world burn.

somehow i cant manage to run this on windows 10

>the twisted metal contest apparently leveled every major city in the world and left them in ruins
You're telling me the military couldn't handle a bunch of whackos in heavily armed cars?

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how this faggot got his powers?

Is the PS2 servers still ongoing today.

I think so, you can even start dedicated servers on pcsx2.

Calypso! Gimme gf pls!

Calypso probably had control of the military and told them not to intervene.

Makes sense I guess, I mean tmb made more sense cause the contest only took place in midtown which was a small jurisdiction for the local law enforcement which is why they sent this satanic looking attack helicopter to stop you in the end.

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It was what gave Needles his own identity and not just a dumb JWG or Joker wannabe

I don't remember warhawk looking that ridiculous.

>Desert level
>Rush for giant crater with astroid
>Giant ant comea out and destroys everyone and everything

My nigga

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I remember some threads a while ago where the OP played Calypso and everyone wished for something and he fucked all of us.

It was pretty fun

A lot of the vehicles look different from their ingame renders, warhawk and minion where a few of them.

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It's not bad, the others (2, Black and Head-On) are way better

I remember getting hyped up when playing as the black dude in the cadillac just because of his bass wave special

I guess they didn't have time to change the models before release.

Probably not, dave jaffe said the game was already on a tight schedule which is the very reason why warhawk wasn't playable.

The TM2 comic explains it

Yes, absolutely.

Re-release please for the love of god

I'd love to give this another go without online pass, shitty lobby design, and connection issues fucking everything up

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Doesn't minion canonically die in tm2?

I really hate how we only got 4 drivers.

Stop seeing faces on things, autist.

I only just fucking realized that the music in the character select is a remix of the Painted Black theme
youtube.com/watch?v=JK6yEk23gKU

Another series sent to the trash pile in favour of movie-esque trite

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Considering MediEvil has a remake, I think a TM2 remake is more likely at this point

I fucking loved the ost in black.

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Same, I loved how erie some of them sounded.

Has anyone noticed a sudden increase of car combat and Twisted Metal retrospectives lately?

Snowy roads was easily the best.
youtube.com/watch?v=aOkvhqtxuZA

Yes, every one is still pretty nostalgic for those games but it also has to do with the algorithms for youtube.

Why didn't they just shoot the clown?

youtube.com/watch?v=affiUR3hE6o
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You forgot TM3

>Fucks you over regardless

but why car combat?
the videos themselves don't garner that much attention

you posted it

Tm3 is underrated.

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I love how industiral and gritty the pison ambiance sounds.
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TMB Minion is the best vehicle design in the series. Feel free to debate me.

How do you get your webms so clean looking? Mine always come out looking half assed.

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At 0:21 and 0:46 I think you can hear the Paint it Black main theme again as a siren.

I hated how absurdly loud the lighting attack on this map sounded compared to everything else

lower resolution

It's actually the same from tm2 when you use the lightning on the LA map.

>lightning attack on suburbs
>radio on one part of the map gets electrical interference

Thanks I'll try that, also what's your bitrate?

tfw crazy 8, yellow jacket, mr slam and twister, my 4 favorite twisted metal vehicles, were all screwed out of appearing in the PS3 game

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that one was about 2500

>dark side special on mr. grimm against a wall

CHOO CHOO

Darkside would like a word with you.

95% of the game is 7 others ganging up on you
5% of the time they shoot machine guns at each other

What makes a good car combat game? making one right now but i havent really played a car combat game in 15 years

Memorable characters and cars

>no car combat BR game
a PUBG sized map would actually be good

>heard u talkin shit

when I first saw twisted metal black my mind was so blown at the graphics and the character stories were great

Just dropping into this thread to agree with OP that TM:B was godly

>blow up enemy vehicle
>run down the burning body for HP

so satisfying

I tried but it still looks off, maybe it's my pcsx2 settings?

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destruction derby 1

that one looks pretty good, you could try a different interlacing mode. one of them makes the screen vibrate

Yeah disregard what I said, forgot it looks better when not in full screen.

>Twisted Metal 3
>Carmageddon TDR 200
>Flatout 3
What is it with destructive driving games and having inferior third installments by different studios?

youtube.com/watch?v=zmMu02B5Tn8

>had to fight off discount minion and blow him up to damage warhawks shields
>warhawk continues to barrage you with missiles until you manage to kill him
>rams you off the roof at random
Fuck that double nigger in every conceivable way.

Why was car combat only popular in Burgerland and some places in Europe?

>tfw will never play black multiplayer ever again

none of the twisted metal games were ever any good.

>yfw

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Good ranking. I might put tm1=head on, though

Gotta figure out how to make these webms longer.

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This. Also depending on what kind of tone you're going for go nuts with the different vehicles, I mean the "mascot" car of twisted metal is an icecream truck so do whatever.

may as well upload a YT video at that point?

Fuck all I want is a Twisted Metal 6 in the near future.

Darkside can lick my ass.

If someone were to make a new, unbranded car combat game, how close to TMB could they make the mechanics before they get copyright slammed? How could it be changed or improved without varying too far from the holy trinity + ricochet, gas can, and special setup?

>simplified/arcadey driving that still feels weighty instead of being just go-karts
>arena shooter style resource collection (fighting over where health/weapons/powerups spawn. Easier to get to stuff are either weaker or take long to get while stronger stuff is either harder to get to or out in the open where everyone fights over it)
>Cars should basically be fighting game characters. Each one has their own properties and niches. Each one should be memorable in their own right.

Maybe I will in the future.

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The first 5 seconds show nothing, that webm doesn't really need 60fps, resolution could go down to 480p, etc.

Twisted Metal didn't copyright mechanics or anything. That'd be like saying you can't make Wipeout clones when BallisticNG exists. Can't have the characters and names obviously, but nothing is stopping someone from aping Twisted Metal.

Sony doesn't care about TM, and even if they did, they wouldn't have a case.

I use webm for retards so I can't really do much.

>filesize

that webm could have been 720p 5000 bitrate, not much motion going on. also might want to start using OBS or something so that shadowplay shit doesnt show up every time

Rogue Trip for me.
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I'm pretty sure it has options for everything I mentioned.

Super mario kart 64

based

4 player MK64 was so much fucking fun man. block fort a best

Not him but I don't think it has framerate.

I might give that a try.
It only letsme mess with the following:
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crop size
trim video
enable high quality
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and threads

im going for a low poly style and a high playercount with bigger maps, has anyone tried 16+ player car combat?

thanks for the tips

it does t. making webms since they were first a thing on Yea Forums

It's at advanced, encoding.

>warehouse doesn't take damage

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Oh I didn't notice.

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straight steel

>darkside just casually rams you off the map
Kek.

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OUT FUCKING SKILLED

nothin personnel kid

Sh-Shut up!

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My sides are in orbit.

Twisted Metal 6 when?

>turning a gas can into a nuke

Vigilante 8 was better

Didn't Activision say they want to more classic remakes after the success of Spyro and Crash?

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I like both, but TM took the medal

>Beenox remaking Vigilante
Oh god no.

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loved that map and fucking around with things like those race cars in the station

I'd say yeah sure. It had a much darker tone to it though. I'm sure many preferred the more comic book tone of the second game. Second game was most certainly the best on PS1.

The whole game takes place inside Sweetooth's head.

CARIPSO WHERE DEEED YOU GOOOO

SCREW YOU!
-Love, Calypso

>prison boat level
>shocking the shit out of the guys on the chair
>blowing up the blimp

>outlaw gets a 2nd chance to make things right

What game is this?

One of the recent transformers games.

I'm positive it had to do with the edginess of the series. It was 90s American edge at its finest. Perfect really for its time. Talking mostly about TM here though.

I don't know if it was because I was younger, but I always found the wonky 90s CG of 4 to be more offputting and "scary" then most of the fucked up shit in Black.

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You fucking nailed it with the F-Zero GX situation however, TM2012 was excellent and is unjustly criticised by filtered casuals and nostalgiafags.

You mean this?

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Sony fucked up the release

Online was iffy but singleplayer and splitscreen was hands down the best on the franchise the music selction was really fucking on point too.

Also this

cell damage

best thing about 2012 is that it came with a TB black download code

TMB's architecture is underrated as fuck.

You’re under arrest. No wish no mishap.

The industrial artstyle for black was kino.

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>mfw I have no face

Industrial vehicles and a gritty world that's almost mid century art deco at times, I fucking love it.

Why would they even execute them three at a time on a big open platform ON A SHIP?

Bloody Mary's wish was literally that except a bf, the one guy she tried to ask out a long time ago and never got over. Calypso lobotomizes him to be a loyal husband physically, but he still manages to stammer out "I will never love you" to BM before she caves his head in.

It's a shame we never got the sequel.

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SUSPECT IS NOT DOWN I REPEAD SUSPECT IS ALIVE BLAM

YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF MIDTOWN CITY CODE 4432, STEP OUT OF YOUR VEHICLE AND SURRENDER PEACEFULLY

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why did car combat genre die? not even indies try to make them.

>the sound of a power missle

PSHOOWEAAAAAAAAAAH

I assume Calypso had them put there as some sort of torture, maniacs with cars are zooming around and if they don't get you with stray gunfire, ramming your platform will electrocute you to death.

That top right screen looks right out of VtM:B.

which character looked like neil young?

>SHOOT MY FUCKING CAR commercials

Junkyard Dog's driver. Billy Ray or something? The one who got fucked up by chemtrails.

No

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TIMES UP
*fires missile*

What was wrong with it?

Shut up, fag.

I loved Twisted Metal Black. I remember watching a trailer for Twisted Metal on PS3 years afterwards, and I remember seeing a player-controller helicopter, and I immediately noped and never gave the PS3 version a chance. It seems like the series died with the PS3 Twisted Metal.

Completely unrelated, what do you guys think is the best ending scene in the whole series? For me, it's Club Kid and his Alaskan rave:
youtube.com/watch?v=WCBRb6q3K1s

gods what a great intro

I like how Midtown has a single specific city code relevant to arrest the leading contestant of a population-slaughtering demo derby. They'd make Mega City One proud.

That was kind of shitty and a stretch.

I'm surprised they have a high enough budget for an attack helicopter.

I SEE A RED DOOR AND I WANT IT PAINTED BLACK

Fucked up online

NO COLORS ANYMORE I WANT THEM TO TURN BLAAAAACK

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Wow, I'm so happy people actually still care about TMB after all this time. Definitely my favorite game on ps2, it's so good.

So is the turret on minion sentient and has a mind of its own since it locks on to everything automatically?

I WAS SO CLOSE TO MAKING IT RIGHT

I could imagine it has a camera feed inside the cab so marcus could aim it.

We just need ONE new good car combat game to revive the genre

Snowy Roads is top tier but for me it's this:
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I solid that having an arcade release would make Asians understand the appeal

Nothing will ever top this.
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THE KING OF THE CAR COMBAT GENRE COMING THROUGH

MAKE WAY

STOP COMMENTING IN THIS THREAD NOW BECAUSE IT IS MINE

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THIRD PERSON CAR COMBAT

FIRST PERSON CAR COMBAT

FIRST PERSON SHOOTER ACTION

TOMMY TALLERICO SOUNDTRACK

EVERYONE LEAVE THE THREAD

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I don't suppose anyone played the Full Auto series?

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*draws dimes in your path*

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I SAID STOP RESPONDING TO THE THREAD

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NO NO NO NO STOP RESPONDING REDLINE IS THE KING

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Cope.

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>TM2012
huh I didn't know this existed, I think this is the first time I've ever seen somebody mention it at all. Weird

>they swapped Mr. Ash for Dollface
18 years later and I’m still mad

it had so much potential

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So THQ owns Carmageddon now and the company has been trying to make a comeback with the IPs they have now
Do you trust hem?
thqnordic.com/article/carpocalypse-now-thq-nordic-acquires-carmageddon-ip-stainless-games

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>Yakuza
Mein neger, this game looked so good on the og xbox.

Fuck off faggot, dollface is best girl.

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it's time to go home, black

youtube.com/watch?v=SkbKq9dSwWM

NOOOOOOOO BLACK WHERE ARE YOU GOING!?
youtube.com/watch?v=xoFs8REgq8I

>that preacher guy who just wanted to be free from the demon possessing him
>in a world where demons are real, it turned out there was no demon inside him, he was just crazy
>with no hope left, he offs himself

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Good atmosphere and personality in drivers, setting, and cars

aaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAA *thump* REPENT! *explosion*

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My favorite shit. Played the fuck out of that level.

>I was out like the dying heartbeat of a little girl
kawaii, sweet tooth-sama

>let me tell you about the dreams boys and girls, those were some wonderful dreams
Kino.

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You just posted it, no other car combat game reaches Black. It's just Twisted Metal 2 but now it runs at a decent rate.

I didn't really get into it until I emulated it, but god damn is it fun. Fucking love Sweet Tooth and Specter.

I'm annoyed there hasn't been much of an indie effort of making a TM styled car combat game. There was that F2P MMO and some random unknown indie game, but overall it's like a completely dead genre.

If I had money I'd totally just make a Twisted Metal clone, just give it some good car physics and you could easily have a pretty deep, skill based game.

I hate what they did with him in the ps3 game.

I really want a car combat game based on transformers.

Free aiming like that in a TM game could be really fun.

V8 1 and 2 were honestly fantastic as well. They were both better than TM2, but their campaigns sucked in comparison to TM2.

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>all these characters have these tragic backstories
>then sweet tooth is like nigga i just wanna gut some bitches and wish my head wasn't on fire

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Needles represents marcus' homicidal tendencies he's kept bottled up for years. If needles or calypso discover marcus in the dreamworld needles would take over as the dominant personality irl. That's why he drives minion, he wants to stop needles and wake up from his nightmare

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Ah yes, the style of some 90's comics where you could do violent implications and basically have corpses and gruesome deaths, but they avoided implicitly tearing people apart on-panel, creating some weird cheesy appeal.

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The end

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TOO SOON

>TOO SOON
Agreed

Mario kart balloon fight multiplayer and PS1 twisted metal

fuck this clown btw

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THE SOUL OF THE FIRST ONE DEEEAAAD

Each character in general interpret or represent the way needles/marcus sees things in the real world. Take out outlaw for instance, he's needles/marcus' interpretation of law enforcement as a whole. Miserable lunatics who kill the very people they are bound to serve and protect.

Interstate 76

Agreed, TM4 was creepy as fuck and Sweetooth was nightmare inducing.

Huh, I thought Twisted Metal ps3 was just pulling the whole 'little sister' thing out of it's ass

Calypso is an alternate form of needles, they're both missing an eye, both have burn scars on their chest, both are bald.

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>calypso has gamer head

>wrecked police car as a front bumper
Such a fucking rad design.

I never knew the guy who made God of War also made Twisted Metal, what a fucking legend.

>reminder that normies lack the iq to play car combat games as in they can't be bothered to check the controls screen

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why? There isn't likely a studio that's trustworthy enough to make something worthy to the franchise with a reasonable projected budget

lol no

I disagree with you quite a bit here sir

Dave jaffe made a video on his youtube basically saying how asshurt he was that god of war became huge after he left.

>like twisted metal except GO FAST

Easily one of my favorites on the PS2

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Holy fuck how have I not noticed this?

There's a lot of great designs for black that never got used.

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That's not really far off from the final version.

The ingame version is totally different from the character select and cutscene renders. It's probably the beta version but the devs didn't have enough time to change it.

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I like cars

CALYPSO WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

I think the exact opposite. The offline options were kinda barebones but online was 10/10 fantastic.

>online was 10/10 fantastic
When it fucking worked I mean

Anyone remember this game?

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I do.

youtube.com/watch?v=W6i-FanLX5M

Poor Dollface

youtube.com/watch?v=M15l4KVSt1c

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Cool

Honestly gotta agree, most of the singleplayer mode stuff was kinda bullshit.

Yes. Too bad it was all a dream.

youtube.com/user/Darkscorpius/videos

This. I was fucking obsessed with this game's horrifying aesthetic back in the day. There was quite literally nothing else like it.

What's that crazy bastard Jaffe up to these days? Last I heard he his latest shit hasn't really been up to snuff.

god no-face is still such a badass character, i'm glad his ending was one where he didn't get fucked over.

y'know? that was the first time i ever knocked someone out with one punch.

I never really liked the whole 'TMB is all in his head' thing, to be honest. Just makes the delightfully shittastic world and characters a lot less interesting.

>europoor
>our version had all the cutscenes, bios and loading screen story removed
>no pedestrians
>yellow cab “secret” entrance is already open while the US version has you shoot down a passenger plane into a building
I went back to return the game after an hour as i honestly thought my game was broken, the clerk pretty much laughed in my ten year old face so i just threw the into the dumpster.
Lesson learned.
Also, vigilante 8 2nd offense is still goat.

>There was quite literally nothing else like it.
There still isn't, really.

TM3 is literally trash.

What the fuck?
You can do THAT?

Yup. TMB has a ridiculous number of details like that.

Was that entire thing about the devs dying in a plane crash and the game being delivered by their ghosts a ruse?

I liked Rogue trip.

Vigilate 8 > Twisted Metal

Same

Opening level was kino
m.youtube.com/watch?v=HOvMRIEYIn4

Carmageddon > All

Nice

He literally out drove the Devil in his car

Who was your favorite character?

Unironically, all of them aside from the alien saucer and helicopter.
I adored the character bio drawings and art style but if i had to pick one i’d be Nightshade, both her vehicle and her.

Good taste.

MY PEOPLE
Molo gang represent

Why am I laughing so much at this dumb bullshit? Goddamn nuanced Yea Forums humor

>he didn't post the good one

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I remember renting it as a child and liking it quite a bit. I spent the night in the office of my dad's bar and played it on a small CRT on the floor.

...

>this asshole and all the enemies have unlimited specials.
Oh joy.

Wasn't this being remade? How does it stack up against Twisted Metal?

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The game was amazing. Played the shit out of it.

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One of the worst car combat games ever.

Watch Jaffe's video about TM. He explains what you should NOT do in a vehicle combat game.

Reminder that when they were making TM1 japanese publishers told them to make game colorful and happy and shoot fruits instead of weapons to appeal to japanese market.

Reminder that Halo killed car combat
youtube.com/watch?v=19x5wXklS6s

No, it didn't. It's a slow pased boring WoT-clone trash

No Carmageddon 2 several years earlier was

david jaffe is a huge faggot SJW now

>Some retard made a video
HALO KILLED CARCOMBAT GUYS

youtu.be/12MNzZxqBI8

I forgot the game had helicopters in it with car magnets that you could use to save teammates or drop enemies with.

Even the devs apologized for it back in the day in some magazine.
TM4 was bretty gud.

A little better, but still complete trash. The formula stayed the same: bad physics, retarded car design, bullet sponge enemies. At least 3 had decent maps.

That's very true. Jaffe himself said he thought the game was too hard, probably because of how they all gang up on you. You have to use hit-and-run tactics all the time, no matter how well-armored your car is.

Just copy Twisted Metal and you should be fine. One recommendation: Make machine guns feel and sound more powerful. As much as I love Black, it had the worst machine guns in the whole series. The projectiles looked and sounded like liquid blobs.

What did they say about the bikini girls?

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You can't copyright game mechanics.

They got removed from the final version and replaced with text screen.

>TM3 and 4

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It's too bad they never tried to combine TM's gameplay with the destructable structures from Mercenaries.

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Transformers Devastation.

What a great game.
Also, Yea Forums clan was one of the best and its members were in the top ranks.

They got removed from the final version and replaced with text screen.

The entire game is a delusion in Sweet Tooth's head. It's not supposed to make sense.

Pop'n tanks is better

Looks kind of like Max Payne crossed with Parasite Eve.

Absolutely not.
TM2 is kino and objectively the best.

Because every genre except FPS and TPS died during the seventh generation.

Because you can't make a walking simulator out of a car
>...or can you?

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So is that as awful as it looks, or is it like 50 Cent Blood on the Sand where it looks like it can't possibly be good but is somehow kind of fun?

Why didn't Calypso ever use his powers to fix his face?

He can't use his power on himself.

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Reminder that Minion was originally these jackasses:
youtube.com/watch?v=AkFMw3F5hVo
youtube.com/watch?v=4Hvjp7WxONg

>unlimited specials
I think that was just Axel. The other cars had their own bullshit, like Mr. Slam having unlimited freezes.

That's a pretty shitty power.

Is that why he uses his power to fuck over everyone on their wishes? Because he's pissed off that he has all this power but can't actually benefit from it himself?

head on is fucking garbage, you stupid reddit fuck

I hated it because “ultra hard” difficulty was barely TMB normal.
It’s a game for babies.

Vigilante 8 2 was amazing but the one big thing that was total bullshit was that there wasn't any cars that dropped Top Speed stats when TOTALED so if you wanted to get the cool chassis legit you had to kill a ton of cars and make sure not to TOTAL them and hope one drops.

Vigilantefags need not post in our glorious Twisted Metal thread

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Dreamcast version “fixes” that and characters like Chasey Blue, Obake and time stop guy do in fact drop three top speeds when totaled.

My nigga.
We'll be the only two in the thread.

Make that three.
I loved that sea world level with the killer whale.

TM2 was a mistake.
TM1 and black is what the franchise should have been all the time.

This force holywar is retarded. I love both those series and they are totally different.

I never commented on the game itself. But every time there is a TW thread some V8nog comes and kills it.

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