Seriously what kind of building was it before the war?

A megachurch/mall

>why'd they end up as nothing more than superstitious tribals?
No access to amentities, complex tools, or even salvage. There's nothing of worth around Arroyo and no Pre-War shit to loot. After a couple generations nobody would even know how to make a radio because they have no reason to do so.

it was a casual filter before the war and it continues to be a casual filter afterwards.

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>But then you wonder how they managed to make the giant face and it all crumbles

You realize ancient Egypt has similar structures, right?

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the egyptians weren't some backwoods retards in an isolated tribe. they were accomplished architects, artists, and math nerds thanks to the flow of people from surrounding areas to keep ideas and culture developing over thousands of years.

>Couple of generations
>80 years

>oh yeah let's follow the exact same path that has led us to our downfall guys

They returned to a simpler lifestyle because they knew technology has destroyed their world.

One generation is generally considered 30 years, yes.

ancient Egyptians had unironically more resources than retarded tribals

I thought everyone knew that the temple was hastily made as "tutorial" forced by the higher ups. Even the creators want you to treat it as non-canon..

Just pretend it was built by some weirdo Pre-War luddites or something man.

And what makes you say the tribals are retarded?
Do you really think the average IQ went down a couple of dozen points after the war? Hell, it probably increased because low IQ retards were the first people to die.

How do you know how many resources the tribal has access to? As far as I know it's never discussed in Fallout 2.

That would explain why it sucks ass and is so big waste of time.

Actually, strike that: Pretend it's an Indiana Jones-esque movie set built by deranged Hollywood assholes just before the bombs went off.

They ain't kangs though

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This. It always pisses me off that i have to go through it if i want to start a new game in fallout.

I assumed the tribals were retarded because their whole settlement was animal skin tents and a few crops. the only structure of any architectural significance is the trial temple, which is so obscenely out of place that they had to have come across it.

it would make a lot of sense if the area surrounding the temple demonstrated their construction prowess on smaller, less detailed scale (adobe structures, wood fort-like structures) but it's not so. They're literally just a bunch of retards squatting outside of a structure they didn't build and they have no idea how such a deeply complex thing came to be so they assumed it was by divine right, like retards..

Perhaps the vault dweller saw how evil technology and science could be when he encountered the Master and wanted his people to lead a more agarian lifestyle.

maybe before 1968, but definitions have changed now.

You can play the game, you can talk with the tribals, you can see what Arroyo has to offer and you know where they come from because of F1 the Vault Dweller's memoirs. They're worse off than what we know from ancient Egyptians, which is a lot

>but definitions have changed now.
How long do you think the average lifespan out in the Wasteland is?

pretty sure the temple wasnt made by the tribals and possibly has something to do with the weird cult stuff

>I assumed the tribals were retarded because their whole settlement was animal skin tents and a few crops.

They would be infinitely more retarded if they followed the exact same path that has led to the destruction of civilization as we knew it, though.

Perhaps it's a good thing that we should be reduced to a primitive lifestyle for man is not evolved enough to not let power corrupt him.

Well seemingly yes, considering that the village elder is daughter of the vault dweller and she's as much of a desert redneck as everyone else in the village.

I always assumed it was a prewar building with a post-war facade.

anybody over 11 years old is halfway to the tomb

Here's a interesting funfact the pit in the temple has a spire from Planescape as in actual asset from Planescape Torment which was still a year from release at the time.

The Egyptians built colossal buildings that blow even modern architectures' minds. This is but a ''simple'' face about 12 feet high carved on the side of a mountain, It probably took a couple of years, but it's not impossible.

the fall of civilization is a broad and complicated topic and what brought it about was numerous key facets that must be studied and understood. You can't throw out the baby with the bathwater, as it were, because a country with a runaway military industrial complex instigated an apocalypse. At what point to we try to learn , adapt, and overcome our misgivings instead of running away to hide in a cave?

>Arroyo tribals
>It probably took a couple of years
kek

"I taught the others the skills they would need to survive and grow strong. Hunting, farming and other skills to feed us. Engineering and science to build our homes. Fighting to protect what was ours."

-Vault Dweller's memoirs

because the whole tribal shit is retarded nonsense in fallout and it is fucking stupid.

Fry's electronics

i mean, you're not wrong. fallout is fun, but it isn't smart.

Wow, it's almost like Fallout 2 is a meme game that took everything that was memorable in F1 and paid lip service to it while doing its own thing.
Face it, it was the Fallout 3 of its time.

Thanks funfact-user!

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This.
If you crash a car, you should learn how to drive, not commit yourself to walking everywhere for the rest of your life.

What homes? There are only tents in this tribe.

excellent work

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>Engineering and science to build our homes.
>tents made out of mud and animals skins
Didn't realize the Vault Dweller was a retard

New Reno is keeno

Formerly Chuck’s

Your mom is the Fallout 3 of women

Your brain is the Fallout 3 of retards.

Maybe the vault dweller taught them to carve giant fucking heads out of rock

When the average lifespan is 20-30 it easy to degenerate into tribal behaviors in a very short time

Strange skill to pick up on Vault 13

The facets are numerous alright, but they're all rooted in the same thing and that's ignorance. And I don't think there's something wrong with ''running away to hide in a cave'' after the world was set on fire, because it gives us time to retreat within ourselves which gives us introspection.

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The village elder is over 50 years old. You'd think that they'd be capable of keeping everyone else alive bit longer than 30 years?

>but they're all rooted in the same thing and that's ignorance.
>let's be ignorant about the past while we hide away in a cave and kill each other with rocks

Egypt was an actual civilization with several thousand people, large crop area, commerce and mineral resources.

why did so many structures in the original fallout games have faces on them? even the enclave oil rig has a giant face on it

If you forget everything you knew, you're getting the exact 'ignorance' you ran away from.

> Didn't realize the Vault Dweller was a retard
He was.

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the most kino place in the whole series

It was a design choice mainly forgotten about by 3, although some parts in it and even 4 have them

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>not Albert Cole

Fucking love that theme so much I used it as background music for my Gamma World games.

He was Cole

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>intelligence fair

The cave is obviously symbolic of the subconscious mind and our separation from it is what has led us to our downfall in the first place, for only an incomplete being would try to change the exterior world in such dramatic ways without realizing he must first change his interior world.

Low IQ, don't embarrass ourselves by thinking you're smart, you'll save yourself from people cringing at you

isn't the village elder the vault dudes daughter?
it does kind of destroy role playing a bit if my daughter becomes some tribal mystic when i would have taught her science and shit to grow up and how to operate plasma guns.

maybe the previous vault dweller had an int of 1?

>hut-dwelling unga bungas.

Gobekli tepi predates civilization and was suspected to have been built by tribes of people, so hut dwellers definitey could have built it.

He looks like he NTRs

Something like Disneyland

fuck off avellone the tribal shit is garbage and you know it
why does everyone hate the fucking beginning of 2 and want to be out in the wasteland with guns and shit?

obviously

*ahem*
Fallout 1>Fallout 2

Clearly a theater, duh.

introspection is the opposite of forgetting though

Yes, she is the daughter of Vault Dweller. Though in-game her INT is 5 so it seems like she's bit dull.

that's cool, never knew that

It's aretro-futurism thing if I'm not mistaken. If you want something similar check out INSOMNIA: The Ark

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introspection is forgetting while deluding yourself into thinking you're not

it's forgetting on steroids

they joined primitive tribe, and accepted their ways of living. Over time stories told by "vault people" became mystic gibberish, because people passing them did not understand "civilized world" and framed them in their scale of reference.
Arroyo tribals understood Vault 13 legacy kind of how some Oceanic tribes worshiped planes passing over their islands.

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I know it sounds like mumbo jumbo to the layman but it only takes a couple of minutes of studying symbolism and psychology to realize it makes sense.

Most americans have become illiterate tribal desert monkeys since ww2 started so it's not that far-fetched

Introspection is literally just observing your thoughts though. It's the exact opposite of forgetting.

They didn't join a tribe, vault dweller literally found the tribe with guys from vault 13 and some wastelanders. The village elder is the goddamn daughter of the vault dweller.

Your introspection is meaningless if you lack knowledge to introspect on, which Arroyo clearly has considering 9/10 inhabitants are ooga booga spearchuckers. What you're looking for is Tracer Tong in Deus ex one.

TECHNOLOGY EVIL
BONES THROUGH NOSE GOOD

Just a comment, I think the a lot of the elements of the stories of those 2 games are pretty stupid when you really think about it. But it sets up a nice frame for the rpg to take place with great atmosphere, writing, and etc. Sending the vault dweller out to kill the super mutants for example is not masterpiece plot. And the tribe shit doesn’t really make sense but it gives the game a cool vibe.

Probably a synagogue of satan where media and financial (((elites))) would plot their media narratives to drag America into a nuclear war.

What knowledge do you think they lack? The only knowledge you need for the introspection to work is that you should remember the golden rule of treating others as you want to be treated yourself. If everyone remembered this rule then human-caused suffering would cease to exist.

The real question is: why are people incapable of building new structures with bricks and stone in the Bethesda Fallout games? There are rocks everywhere, there are tree logs everywhere, there is clay everywhere. Nothing prevents them from making brick, stone, or log cabin structures. Instead, we get a bunch of squatters propping jagged and crumbling bits of steel over their heads like fucking Africans 10 years after whites are kicked out of African countries.

Turning a tree into a house is a lot harder than turning some loose metal into a house. That said, you're still mostly right. There are 80 year olds who've just been hanging out farming or fishing their entire lives in some of the fallout games, and they haven't spent a year or two building a slightly nicer house

Becau Bethesda wants a post-apocalyptic franchise while Fallout was always about a post post-apocalyptic society, the NCR being the number one example of it. Hell, remember the Moira quest you do in 3? She asks you to go to a mall to see if there are any resources in there. 200 years after the bombs. It's fucking ridicuous and could've been avoided as easy as making F3 and F4 take place at the same time as F1 but on the other side of America. But no, we have 4's Commonwealth existing 210 years after the bombs and it looks like an asking-to-be-euthanized retarded child in comparison to Vault City or Vegas

Every time you access a memory you distort it, easily demonstrated in the lab. Focusing inwards long enough will make you forget everything you know, but make you think you still know it, slowly making you more and more crazy.

Only way you stay sane is with constant error-correction through directly interfacing with reality.

FO2 is retarded, more news at 11

user, people have been building log cabins since before clocks were invented. I'm supposed to believe that people are sitting around maintaining robots and computers that were considered top of the line by pre-war standards, but they can't take all of these tree trunks sticking out of the ground and make structures from them? Even the original games had people living in new mud and brick structures. The only reason Bethesda Fallout games can possibly do this is for "aesthetics" reasons.

I literally agreed with you, if you'd read past the first 18 words of my post

>If everyone remembered this rule then human-caused suffering would cease to exist.
What about masochists?

I never played 2. The second I saw it had to do with white people pretending to be ooga booga aztecs or whatever the fuck they were, I lost interest.

i assume sandstone is easy to work with and that one vault had some civilization rebuilding kit
were there others that didnt build out of junk?

>Every time you access a memory you distort it.

That's why we write books.
Or in this case probably cave paintings.

>Turning a tree into a house is a lot harder than turning some loose metal into a house.
Yeah, maybe if you're planning to stay the night instead of settling. Give me some basic tools like an axe and a knife and a hammer and even I could build a house on my own in like a year that's better than randomly piled up garbage. Then maybe I help my buddy make one, and it turns out less shit than my first one. And over time we figure out better ways to make them.

One might accept that not every random asshole is able or interested in doing that, but as soon as ONE guy does it, and demonstrates how much better it is to live in a proper house that's insulated and doesn't leak and shit, people will start emulating him and the ability to build houses to live in will rapidly spread across the wasteland.

>that's ignorance.

TECHNOLOGY BAD
NATURE GOOD

I like how the tribals can't contribute anything of value to the world while everyone else is using technology to rebuild infrastructure and provide protection to the isolated communities of New California.

You have aptly summarized the second half of my post, in which I implied it was odd that people lived their entire lives without bothering to improve their living situation.

maybe people dont want to build nice things because it attracts people that want to shit all over it

Bethesda's fallout works better when you think of the bombs having fallen just recently, not 200 years.

Everyone in Arroyo is getting high on the same stuff that Hakunin is doing. No wonder they dont get any shit done.

>Duude...can you like...go punch the plants in my garden?

Masochism is still rooted in desire and desire is the root of all suffering. Also I would argue to say that masochism comes from an inferiority complex which is probably caused by humans who forgot the golden rule.

Oral traditions also transfer knowledge reliably. Usually these were passed down as songs or very salient stories that were easy to learn and hard to forget. I read one story about some native australian tribe that, during a severe 100-year drought or something, managed to find their way to a hidden water reservoir miles away from where they usually traveled, because some 60+ year old dude who only knew about the place because his parents passed down directions on how to find it to him in the form of a narrative story that was easy to remember.
So you can memorize stuff very reliably, and repeat it, if you've practiced how to do it and the memory is constructed in such a way that it's difficult to corrupt (like e.g. a narrative story that only makes sense if you repeat it precisely, thus reminding you that you're doing it wrong every time you make a mistake).

I was glad to leave thos shit sniffing faggots behind the moment I got my Highwayman. Cruising around the wastes doing oddjobs to pay for my fuel was great. Fuck the lame ass ooga booga shit.

>I like how the tribals can't contribute anything of value to the world

To the world? You mean to human desires? The world couldn't give 2 shits about our accomplishments and would be better off without them.

Technology is bad because man thinks he can tame nature, not knowing that our separation from nature is what's causing us to suffer.

Well, the games constantly bring up the date and year and how many centuries ago it was. But let's not just blame Bethesda about this, New Vegas by the true creators of Fallout itself still had everyone living in bombed out shithole locations including the shining jewel of the Mojave New Vegas itself

>and his followers from the vault
There were no followers, he was kicked out by the Overseer and wandered into the wasteland alone.

i guess you could call the arrangement i made with your mother every weekend an oral tradition

lul

>tribals can't contribute anything of value to the world
I beg to differ, profligate.

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>Oral traditions also transfer knowledge reliably.

lamo no. They transfer a general idea of something but they do not give good accurate accounts of anything. The longer a story is told, the more a story changes.

>desire is the root of all suffering
yeah tell that to starving people

Why do people starve?

>if everyone did [thing] then the other, undesirable [thing] would stop existing on its own
Sounds like utopian thinking to me

Aren't arroyo tribals supposed to be stupid as fuck and believing in stories and made up tales? I remember there were some lines if you have high intelligence questioning the idea of the GECK even existing when you ask about it around the world

no food

>several thousand
Lmao they had a few more than that

That's how it works in my mind, the bombs fell like 10, 15 years before the Bethesda games, otherwise there wouldn't be food and medicine everywhere, let alone 250 year old food and medicine that's still usable. Plus I've restored a few radios that are 50 and 60 years old. While a lot of the wires and switches are still good, EVERY capacitor in radios that old are failed because the electrolytic oil in them has long dried, turning them from capacitors to resistors. Bethesda wants me to believe that people are using almost 300 year old computers and robots without having to replace massive amounts of the components with recently manufactured ones?

Come the fuck on. There's suspension of disbelief and then suspension of reality.

why do they have no food

I admit I'm an idealist, but I'm not ashamed of it.
People should never forget how things could be were we to live more harmoniously imo.

>yeah tell that to starving people
Not that guy but you're stretching the word "desire" a little farther than its rational meaning. There's a big difference between a lust and a need. A starving person NEEDS food. It's is not a desire so much as it is a necessity.

They don't believe his act though. Even himself stops talking like that and starts to speak normal if you are retarded so you can understand him.

The point is a starving person is suffering regardless of what they desire

>Guize even I could survive in the wasteland
>It's easy to build a house I could do it by myself with an axe

This is what happens when you dump perception for intelligence

A Fry's obviously.

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Yes where he met other people who had left Vault 13.

>the guys who made ion fury will never work on a 90's fallout inspired post nukeular apocalyptic game

It hurts to live, bros.

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TECHNOLOGY BAD
MAN SHOULD NOT TAME NATURE

Well, I guess it's back to designated shitting streets and women dying in childbirth because humans couldn't evolve good pelvises. You know we traded a lot for these brains of ours that allow us to comprehend the world naturally to a level that we can progress as a society to the point where some random user is arguing over a digital campfire of how nature must dominate man and all this was unnatural.

Sure, but a starving person doesn't have the luxury of lusting after something more than food. Such is the case with tribals. They subsist off the Wasteland. Survival is their primary prerogative, unlike people who live in cities like The Hub or New Vegas. Technology gives man the ability to peruse something other than his own continued existence and that's why the results of that lifestyle are inevitably disastrous. Sisyphus comes to mind. Work for a lifetime to push the boulder of civilization to its peak only for it to collapse once more.

loving the mental gymnastics in the replies to this post.
just accept that it was bad writing and move on.

Caesar wasn't a tribal mate. He was a big brain civic who took a buncha dumb tribals and used philosophy and propaganda to make them into a society.

He even did it because he feels that a technological society is the ultimate end, but a brutal and oppressive one is required to reunite all of mankind.

Because nature buttfucked them with a calamity that could've been prevented with agricultural advances made in the last century.

He said sisy haha

Probably some reality TV show set

>If you don't agree with that fetal alcohol syndrome 12 year old girl from Sweden, you're a racist!

I get so tired of out betters telling us we need to live like stone age peasants while they own beach front mansions, fly everywhere in private jets and have 8 cylinder luxury vehicles. Just a week ago, the Obamas purchased waterfront house on Martha's Vineyard on land that according to his own administration will be flooded by global warming within this half of the century. That's how you know these global warming fucks are full of shit. The only people who believe it are their idiot voter base and disabled Swedish 12 year olds.

Harmony is not for a single person to decide, there will always be outliers that can't be just cut out from the picture, otherwise you will inevitably arrive to the conclusions that you need to genocide this or that for the good of "everyone".

I don't know how you reached this point from that post, but I'm going to assume it's because you're a fucking retard

We're having fun user. Please accept it.

I'm guessing you lost focus somewhere between what I was replying to and me hurting your political feefees.

>He even did it because he feels that a technological society is the ultimate end
An inevitable end, but one built on tribal blood and steel. Ceasar sought order above all else and that order was only attainable via the ass backward tribals that struggle to survive on a daily basis. Anyone hard enough to survive in the wasteland without technology is hard enough to kill an NCR soldier.

>Anyone hard enough to survive in the wasteland without technology is hard enough to kill an NCR soldier.

You don't need technology when you've been genetically evolved to survive several 5.56 rounds to the chest with nothing but football gear and some latin.

Caesar's soldiers always get wrecked in my game and I don't know what's causing it

Would they have fit in?

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try atom rpg

Only if they are half-intelligent, do relatively harmless shit like raid the whole town's garbage cans, and you have the option to mercilessly exterminate them even though they're not a real threat only to find out later that, in response to your violence, they have militarized and started butchering the locals.

>Anyone hard enough to survive in the wasteland without technology is hard enough to kill an NCR soldier

Just like Native Americans in the North and South fighting Spanish conquistadors right?

You realize the Aztecs were up against a coalition headed by them right?

Wasn't the Mojave a tribal ridden shithole before House woke up?

>Just like Native Americans in the North and South fighting Spanish conquistadors right?
Are you implying the American continent is even remotely similar to a post-apocalyptic wasteland? Even the Aztecs had huge temple cities dude. They built cities in swamps, had public water distribution, and were quite well-off in many cases.

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It's not a far drop from the average amerimutt. The only thing they need to read is walmart ads.

Which just further supports my point.
Aztecs had it easy compared to Fallout tribals, but the Aztecs still got their buttholes reemed out by the Spaniards who had just a little better technology.
Tribals struggling in a wasteland would absolutely get their collective cunts tore out by the NRCs fat cock

The number one killer of Natives was illness from having no immunity to foreign germs and viruses. Not actual guns or war.

In Fallout 4 the sole survivor can literally build anything instantly and with his bare hands

Foreigners didn't have immunity to local germs and viruses either and look who ended up surviving. Sanitation, bitches.

Fallout 2s writing is absolutely retarded. 1 and NV are the only good Fallout games

Bethesda aren't very smart. Also for some reason they maybe never looked at places like NCR or Vault City in 2 which are extremely clean, well guarded, and have properly built and furnished houses in them. I'm willing to bet we'd have gotten something akin to a proper city (with big buildings) if Van Buren ever came out, too.

no offense but i would like to cuddle with your mom

Most NCR soldiers were kids with no training.

I think it's character writing is superior to anything bethesda, but the actual plot and a lot of the quests are pretty boring and nothing ever really hits the same level as finding the Master for the first time.

Fallout 1 and 2 both had far more complex computer systems running unattended for centuries as well as robobrains.

The NCR are still on the same playing field though. Their ability to grow food isn't that great and the structure of their government and economy prevent them from efficiently expanding or building a proper military. Meanwhile Ceasar has several American states under his heel and an army of people that subsist on radioactive mutant fruit and whatever the fuck "healing powder" is. Life is cheap in the Legion.

The face portraits in FO1 feel so out of place, like they came from a GTA game or something.

>not playing the superior crpg
Why am I not surprised?

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everyone in the old fallout games look kinda cartoony
but i get what you mean
these look too much like charicatures

Nice thumbnail, poser.

My bad, here, take one of my screenshots.

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This is the best head-canon

Rent free

>better technology
You mean a fuckload of diseases.
Literally that is what killed most of the aztecs.

But you said superior CRPG

I'd have liked fallout becoming some weird post apocalyptic D&D a lot more than "Faux americana 1950s nukes nukes nukes did I mention nukes nukes nukes nukes"

Also when it comes to the technology that did have an impact, it was just steel weapons and horses. Have a book - Armies of Mesoamerica by Ian Heath. It's not some apologistic drivel like that guns germs and steel jackass and focuses on the way the Mesoamericans and Spanish fought. It notes how the Natives (Covers North Americans, Meso, and South Americans) were never very phased by guns, they knew quickly how to drop down to prone right before it fired, to rush them as they reloaded, the noise didn't bother them. Horses fucking terrified them and were a seismic gamechanger for the mobility they brought. While steel armor was largely not used and even dismissed as less effective than quilted corselets by the conquistadors. However swords were considered incredible and far superior to anything the natives had. Rather than guns germs and steel it should have been Horses, Germs and Swords.

Also Cortez won because he had all the people who were sick and tired of the demonic Aztecs align with him.

Im just shitposting, I dont have a superiority complex when it comes to these two games.

Give Underrail a try though.

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Don't worry Fallout 2 is not canon.

fuck off Todd

What a jewel of a society. I wonder what destroyed it, letting women vote, letting women kill all their offspring, or opening their borders to barbarian hordes.

The reason why Vault-Dweller left.

This is so painfully true that it fails as a troll.

>I wonder what destroyed it
Sectarian violence and smallpox mostly.

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Oh, Orange Men Bad™, I forgot.

play ashes 2063 m8

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I'll check this and ATOM out.

The Vault Dweller didn't know how to rebuild civilization, he had basic survival skills that he taught everyone and they remained isolated for 80 years; lots of knowledge got lost and became lore in that time. Hakunin wasn't from a long line of sacred holy people either, his dad probably just started as some kind of drugged-out ex-chemist weirdo and went with it.

Temple of Trials is 100% retarded, though. It's literally just a tutorial dungeon that was forced in by the publishers.

>help us GECK
lmao@theirlives

generations would be shorter for tribals

It was built by a race of scorpions as a monument to the memory of mankind, who had elevated the scorpions to sentience through genetic experimentation in the time Before. A scorpion elder had prophesied that man would go extinct as a result of the nuclear war, and that scorpions even further enhanced by nuclear radiation would inherit dominion over the earth. The reason they are currently hostile to man is their belief that man did indeed die out and that the current humans are nothing but husks, so different in demeanor from the ones who created them, and so they have sworn to cleanse the wasteland of this affront to the memory of the Makers. The second skin of the one presumed to have been the Defilers' greatest champion is enshrined in the Temple of Man, taken as a trophy to remind the scorpions of their greatest victory. When the humans' so-called Chosen One dares intrude upon the sacred halls, the guardians spare no effort in its defense. Indeed, to fall in holy battle against the Defilers is the greatest honor a radscorpion can hope for in this life.

Mods are a thing.

>little better technology
>gun smithing/ plate armor

Supposed to be a former theater or cinema.
Lame writing. Remember, you are just the grandson of the Vault Dweller, there are towns within a walking distance. They hand waved as that "Vault Dweller mingled with some tribals and wanted to live a simpler life", but it's just lame writing, something that goes beyond suspension of disbelief.

>casual filter
You can finish the game with 1 Agility.

This image gives me a huge urge to replay F1 and F2.
You know what, fuck it, im gonna replay F1 tomorrow.

>Horses, Germs and Swords
Thanks for the book recommendations, that makes a lot of sense. Just think how effective the Mongols were in conquering with intelligent use of horses (and that was against people who had horses).

It was a zoo, museum, or theme park.

underground zoo is a stupid idea

Maybe a museum?

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How's it so good bros? The soundtracks of Fallout 1&2 are all masterpieces.

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Fallout games have such terrible lore

Humans easily revert to their primal instincts. Even in their lifetime stuff like Alzheimers can do that.

At our core, we are monkeys. We're not as civilized, or higher-than-thou, as you think. Even now, we still hate one another for trivial reasons, or have no issue clubbing someone over the head, or whatever it may be. Everyone here has thought with their dick, right? Monkey instinct. Riots, stealing, and near mass violence? Monkey rage.

It'd be easier for them to revert to a bunch of primal savages easier than you think, plus 80 years is a long, long time.

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They nailed the gloomy apocalyptic atmosphere.
youtube.com/watch?v=geLiEiAiQJA

Why? I have seen darkly lit zoo areas intended for fish, reptiles, insects, etc. I'm not talking about lions and giraffes here.

Is that why liberals and commies are running and ruining America.

Okay I chuckled!

>I'm not talking about lions and giraffes here
oh okay, I thought you were.

Is that your mom in that picture? Man is above the monkey and other animals

Are those typically more educated and have higher average iq scores?

Maybe he was a 2 int retard run