I'm replaying the original FF8 because the remake sucks...

>Suddenly

You mean after 2 discs of interaction betwen the two?

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Best girl, keep seething Autismo

>transmute Diablos card
>get Holy War
>immune to final boss
No problems there.

So the only way to survive those attacks is to be invincible, eh?

Okay at least now I know.

He was ignoring his feelings

>7k HP
They need max hp. Where tf is your ultima and curaga and shit?

I have 100 Full-Life Junctioned to HP which gives the most HP when compared to Ultima and Curaga.

What the fuck? How is there a party of Seifer, Raijin, and Fujin? Is there a mod that makes those two playable with Seifer?

>When the resident president of the geek crew accidentally cuts and scars the school shooter kid

Too fucking bad I want to fuck my students, so nobody gets detention

Selphie's full-cure limit break tho?

Then you need a GF with +HP. One of her attacks does 9998 damage

Pay attention to the dialogue next time.

Bruh, fuck that. Guess I'm gonna just use my good boy Angelo.

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Are you an actual teacher? So you check out the instagrams of your students and fap? Do they know you're leering at them?

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I don't get how Ultimecia is even allowed to attack? Just use Meltdown + limit and she should die immediately. The only attacks you should be seeing are 1 Shockwave Pulser and her final form's attacks because she doesn't die until her dialogue finishes

Well, the way my firend did it was: pop Holy War, spam Irvine's piercing shot for 9999 dmg (that whole thing when you have a set duration and can dish out as many shots as you can by pressing buttons) and Squall's whatever you call it.

Angelo's a girl, bro

"Whatever"

It's same shit, but nice try anyway

Remake is just a censored port of the original with new character model, it IS the original since they are both the same game. Say ps1 version instead

It' not a remake, but a (pseudo) remaster.
It's not same as there's no source code whatsoever and it's a very bad emulation instead.

Meltdown + Renzouken does 6k a pop.
I died to one of those big boi attacks on the final final form.

What the hell? How? Are you at level 100 with weak spells junctioned to your attack?

I don't care. Remake is remake. Original release is original. I literally wrote that I'm playing the original instead of the remake. I thought I made that clear in the first sentence.

>Remake is remake
It's not a remake, you fucking retard. It's literally just a Steam's garbage emulated port of 2013 with a shitty mod applied over it. It's exactly same release.

No, I'm at level 51 with 100 Flare junctioned to attack.
Squall's STR is 196.

I was breezing through the game without breaking a sweat the entire game until this boss, haha. In fact in some previous bosses I had to hold back to draw.

Call it a re-release then, fucking faggot. I don't care. Fuck off with your shitty drama.

Do you only die to her final final form? Has she started talking?
Once she starts talking, just keep your HP topped off and use normal attacks, you just have to keep triggering her dialogue
Have one character with the defend command and keep them using it all battle so you can't get completely wiped

They bury him and things stay as they are.

>Why did Squall suddenly fall in love with Rinoa?

apparently you get more romantic development if you drag the bitch with you everywhere.

I didn't because I didn't like her

>Not using Invisible moon or Fleabag cannon

>Not naming the dog Fleabag

Yeah I just beat it.
Fucking hell what a rush that was.

I totally entered "the zone".

great job user

Squall to Final Fantasy is what Heero Yuy is to the Gundam universe.

SHUT THE FUCK UP ONSOKUMARU

Not everyone is born with taste

I thought not liking Rinoa was having taste

Squall is awesome, he doesn't want to be the leader but when the responsability falls on him he makes shit done. He's like Wolverine.

>suddenly
Pay attention in the game's text and you may understand.

Well, you were wrong.

Ultemecia was a bitch. As a kid, I just turned my Laguna card into 100 heroes and ended up helping a bunch. Also, I’ll always remember the moment I beat it. Everyone was dead and Squall was at 1 HP because of that bullshit move, so I said fuck it and just melee’d her and beat the boss.

I screamed so loud back then, god damn.

Once you drop her hp to 0 you still have to hit her like 4-5 times before she dies

Just finished watching the ending for the very firs time (never beat it when I was a kid).

My eyes got all misty when they showed Laguna's story ending in the final cutscene. My boy went through it.

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It's made pretty blatant several times that you can't change the past in ff8, just get a different perspective on it, like going back and finding Rinoa never put out for Seifer.

You. You're 35. Stop time traveling and pay your mortgage.

I never even thought of him as particularly anti-social, he's just the only one who actually takes his job as a SeeD seriously. They're soldiers, and he acts like one.

Squall would have been 3x better if he was a smoker. Without a cigarette, he sounds like a faggot. Add a cigarette, and it gives him a 'fuck the world' vibe.

>never thought of Squall as anti-social

I literally can't think of a more anti-social vidya character.

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Squall is not an edgy non conformist. He knows that smoking is retarded and doesnt give a fuck if it makes him look cool or not.

"Whatever" is Squalls mantra for anything outside SeeD. He literally doesnt give a fuck and thats what makes him so great.

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The best character?

I knew a guy that tried to base his entire life and persona around seifer. except he was a ginger haired retard who had trouble stringing basic sentences together

Damn this scene is so fucking weird.

Squall just has a random existential crisis and storms out of the room. Selphie even asks if he's gone insane.

It never gets brought up after it occurs. It's as if it never happened.

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>"hot dogs" instead of melon pans
FUCK.
OFF.

>FMVs are 4:3
Are these faggots actually arguing in favor of cropping? They should have talked about how they could have lifted the FMVs from the original PC version which are visibly higher quality.

He's literally, like, 17 years old. CAN'T YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND!?

Refining certain cards gets you megalixers. I think they revive fallen members don’t they? If not you need to get 9999 hp. Not sure how your hp isn’t maxed yet.

>He literally doesnt give a fuck and thats what makes him so great.
You and most people completely misunderstand Squall character. The point is he actually give a fuck and is a natural leader but he blocks people away because he doesn't want to get hurt. Most Rinoa interactions with him is her trying to break this wall he puts around himself. He cares a lot about people around him, he just doesn't show.

He's really the only competant one.

I don't even use items in this game. They're kinda pointless.

Also the attack wiped everyone.

fuuuuuuUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

squall was literally a tsundere

Rinoa brings it up later when you save her and reach Ragnarok

Daily reminder

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You're a FUCKING IDIOT because if you refine items and cards you can save a lot of time from drawing

>U
It's A, retard.
Also, no - she absorbed her powers, but she's not her.

>doesn't hook up with the mommy-tier QT teacher who dresses in tight clothes, shows off tummy and COMPLETELY wants the dick LIKE SO BAD

But you can't junction items.
Plus, I never used the item ability AND I had 3x speed which made drawing much easier.

VIII is a comedy about a competent introvert completely surrounded by incompetent extroverts

cope

ff7 is better than ff8 you gay faggots

Kys.

That actually sums it up pretty nice.

AND THEN I REALISED I DIDN'T ACTUALLY WANT TO FUCK SQUALL BUT TREAT HIM LIKE A SON-BROTHER THING

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The point is that this is the shit that goes through his head all the goddamn time, and that was the first time he couldn't just hold it in and say "Whatever" instead of what he actually meant. We had been seeing his internal monologue through the whole game up to that point, but for the others it was the first time he had more than two words to say about anything, and the first time he seemed to be emotional.

I don’t think you realize but that’s exactly why he did it.

And as Rinoa points out, he's a great listener and understands people more than most. He's rational and matter of fact, but that's not the same thing as indifference.

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does cloud and lightning pay attention as well?

There's a LOT of direct evidence, across a variety of displays, backstory, dialogue, naming convention, story basis, etc. that clearly shows the intention they had that R=U. The writers for this game intends for the audience to make the suspicion that Rinoa and Ultimecia (or "Artemesia" translated anywhere outside NA) are the same person, time being the altering factor.

The ending literally contradicts each and every little piece of that HEADCANON FANFIC BULLSHIT.
Matron and Ellone gave their wizardry powers to Rinoa to protect her from Adel. Then Rinoa took power from Adel and Artemisia. Rinoa left to be the last and the most powerful witch in the universe. But Rinoa is NOT Artemisia or Adel, because Rinoa fell in love to Squall, unlike Adel and Artemisia which never felt any feelings and Adel being Centra to the boot (Odin comments on that), and humane side of Rinoa overtook her witch side. Rinoa is very powerful sorceress indeed, but ending clearly shows she's not going to become same as what Adel and Artemisia were. She essentially cancelled any possibility for another tyrannic sorceress' appearance, including herself turning into one.

He gets shit done even when he's not appointed to do it. It's pretty telling when during the Balamb internal conflict, he immediately started suppressing NORG's faction and outright forced Cid to leave the Garden defense to him ("Because you might screw up"). The guy may hate being the leader, but he is one.

What was wrong with their hands? I forgot.
I also found it bizarre that moomba were what shoomi would turn into eventually.

Shumis are crafters, so they generally hide their hands and waving them is considered rude and tasteless. When an Elder shows his hands to someone, it's considered a huge sign of respect.
Most people know nothing about Shumi customs, so when the "gift" turned out to be an empty hand, the party was pretty confused. Squall figured it out by observing the Shumi behaviour before.

One, single, bit of conjecture mitigates your entire argument against it. Because you base your opinion of "Artemisia can't be Rinoa" on one single emotional display: Rinoa is in love with Squall. You even further this as, "Rinoa is kind, and will be forever."
Can you guess what that single point I have mitigates your contradiction?
I'll give you a few hints:
Artemisia is old. Very old. Centuries old at least...maybe more.
Rinoa is a brat. Young, selfish, egotistic, spoiled, scared, impulsive, stubborn and close-minded.
Rinoa over and over and over again states and shows her biggest fear; being left alone. She hates that. It infuriates her.
Junctioning Guardian Forces in Final Fantasy VIII causes memory loss. The more you junction, and the more powerful it is, the more you lose. And quickly. Just a few years of junctioning can lead to more than a decade of memory loss. Still yourself, still emotional, you still know your own personality, but you can't remember events or people or places or things. And it gets worse as time goes on.

Piece it together yet? How your idea that, "Rinoa can't be the big boss because she's nice and in love," can ultimately become negated?

She forgot. Between centuries (or more) of existence as well as her own access to at least one Guardian Force (Griever), she simply doesn't remember. She loved Squall, maybe even spent an entire wonderful life together. But he can't live for a millenia. He died. He left her. So did her father. And her friends. Over and over and over again. And she hated that. So what's a wildly depressed Time Controlling Sorceress like that to do, scared of the prophecy that someone would come to kill her and their name was "SeeD?"
And I'll say it again: that is only ONE point that refutes your contradiction. It is NOT the SINGLE "headcanon" bit of theory that supports the large amount of evidence in-game that points to Rinoa becoming Ultimecia, eventually.

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>Squall figured it out by observing the Shumi behaviour before.
So, uh, did you all forget the scene between that Elder and Attendant that occurred literally seconds after that?
youtube.com/watch?v=EMlI8Mqud3c

Attendant remarks,
>"What a sham. They probably know."

Attendant, similarly confused by Elder's "gift" commented before that,
>"Elder, I can't see what you're holding, either."
Then, after a pause, he comes up after ellipses,
>"...aah! This is amazing! Incredible! Wow! What amazing gift Elder is giving you that I can't see and neither can you!!"
>"Now gtfo. Immediately."
>"Wait, hang on. It feels bad going through all that for what you just received. Take this Phoenix Pinion. Now you can summon the Phoenix GF."

Attendant (and Elder) went through all that because Attendant wants to be the next Elder. He's a jerk who feels he deserves it and is super-qualified for it. He's seen as being uncouth and unwise by the current Elder. But, Attendant could at least feel bad for making Squall go do all the work the ELDER was supposed to be doing (it was the whole point of this sidequest: motivate the Shumis to completing their task. Squall ended up running around the whole village doing all that work while the Elder + Attendant fucked around doing nothing because they're lazy). When confronted with this, Elder demands Attendant to go help with the statue, too, as punishment for talking about it.

The fact Squall is coming up with all the "reasons" about showing Shumi palm being polite and respectful, following that embarrassment of being present with nothing, and the juxtaposition of the rather crass dialogue after is supposed to be funny and entertaining. You're not supposed to take Squall's assumptions and reasoning as "FF8 Canon Lore."

Criminy. I haven't played the game in more than a decade and even I remember that.

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>She forgot. Between centuries (or more) of existence as well as her own access to at least one Guardian Force (Griever), she simply doesn't remember.
Even if we leave the rest of your idiotic drivel aside, this right here is flat out wrong. Griever did not exist until Ultimecia met Squall; it's outright stated that she conjured him from Squall's mind, forcing Squall to essentially fight himself.

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Just admit you have no arguments and you've been owned on the web by people more experienced, more knowledgeable, and more smarter than you, kid.

You're completely misunderstanding the whole sidequest. You're outright told that Attendant doesn't want to be the next Elder - he admires Laguna and wishes to travel the world, which Elders are not allowed to do. The Elder sent him to help with the statue to figure out who he really was and because he was resentful of the rigid Shumi customs and didn't want to evolve into Elder. The Elder explains it to you after Attendant leaves.

time to start using items and learn to play the game properly then

>I haven't played the game in more than a decade
Well that was obvious, seeing the entire wall of bullshit head-canon you just typed.

I hated Squall when I was younger. Turns out it was due to shotty translation.

I agree, Attendant NOT wanting to be the next Elder was my "lack of playing for more than a decade" shows and I was wrong. But
You morons. You act like "Shumi palm" is legit, when it's explicitly a charade. The only positive you're supposed to get is that Elder is letting them around the village. A little break from their quest to save the world. Golly, what a nice guy.

Except that it's a fetch-quest scavenger hunt that takes more than 20+ minutes to just find and deliver 5 stones between no hints on locations, screen transitions and elevator rides. And that Elder ultimate isn't a truly nice guy and is a dick to Attendant for pointing out that, despite Elder's good intentions, it fucking sucks to have to go through all that.

I'll make a webm of the scene and post it for you twerps.

ff8's translation is shit and makes him out to be more of an asshole than he actually is

Webm won't fit, readable, for being 3 minutes long. I hate Yea Forums's size limits

Here, have a direct link to the scene.
youtube.com/watch?v=JHi_WIU-IWY&t=20m40s

It starts at 20 minutes and 40s.
1. Elder has good intentions, but rather than just telling them to enjoy their stay, he tries to pass it off with further "gifting" by presenting them with nothing. A pointless and frankly arrogant display.
2. Attendant further tries to justify with arrogant and condescending display (even if it was not Elder's intention to be interpreted as such) with lies, that they're stupid for not recognizing how obvious it should be they're being graced with something amazing like seeing his hands.
3. Attendan also ends their interation with an apology (without stating he's apologizing) for what he feels was fucking embarrassing (because it was) by giving a Phoenix Pinion.
4. The two party members talk about how that was a load of bullshit, and ask Squall, "right?"
5. Squall comes up with some assumption nonsense to justify the foreign cultural exchange they just witnessed. It sounds educated and high-brow, so the other two buy it and remark, "Wow! Makes sense, i guess we were wrong! What a great guy."
6. Instantly followed up with Attendant stating, "What a sham." Which Elder agrees it was. He then justifies it as them "taking a break" instead of giving them any kind of actual reward for the LONG side-quest they just went through collecting stones.
7. Attendant calls Elder out on the bullshit.
8. Elder says fuck you, go finish the statue, no sleep until it's done, gtfo.

IT'S A JOKE. It's not real Shumi Palm Respect bullshit.

Again, you're ignoring the context of the entire quest and lore. The Shumi are extremely humble, peaceful and conservative people, who pretty much never say bluntly what they mean. You go through something similar with the Sculptor before, who lets you run around collecting stones only to later admit that it was just his way to make you see and appreciate their village. Attendant doesn't like the Shumi ways, so to him, it seemed stupid. Here's the Japanese explanation of the scene:
>長老の贈り物が、外界の者であるスコール達にその真意を見抜かれた際にもったいぶらずに渡しゃあ良いものを、と発言したせいで、不眠不休でラグナ像の完成をさせろと命じられてしまった。
>As the meaning of Elder's gift was correctly deciphered by Squall and his team, who were outsiders, Attendant exclaims that Elder should have given them something without the roundabout pretension. For this he is ordered to help build Laguna's statue without sleep or rest.

I actually more enjoyed explaining and reminiscing the scene via my posts than actually interacting with you, as you're too stubborn to admit that the "Shumi Tribe Elder Palm" being an ultimate sign of respect is mostly complete bullshit, as Attendant points out and Elder agrees. Even if it relates to the conservative nature of the tribe. And your Japanese explanation (from who knows where, copy pasted from some ff8 wiki, go ahead and link to me it's from the Ultimania guide) continues to simply frame that 4 minute cutscene, ignoring ALL the shumis in the village in their "speaking" animation, show their palms to you and talk with their hands moving about. The only one who doesn't is the Elder, meant to look refined and is simply placing his hands in front of him (a common cultural display that the individual is aware of his posture in front of guests and is making the effort to be polite).

Context, irony, fallcies or otherwise all point to this comedy of this scene. Elder succeeds in his plan to give the kids a little breather. Attendant breaks the 4th wall for the player to comment that "I did all that fucking work for this Shumi Elder model to show me his hand, wtf?"

Not wanting to steal your bully's girl makes you a faggot.

This scene fucking destroyed me
>Quistis baring her heart and soul to him
>Squall is literally looking away deliberately ignoring her
>she snaps and tells him that she just wants him to listen, and not to talk
>he tells her to go and talk to a wall if she wants that
What a fucking madman

Mind you, the part about letting the SeeDs experience a few moments of peace is true - that was the main reason and Squall correctly points it out ("they sincerely tried to make us feel welcome"). Attendant, however, is more like a normal human than Shumi in his nature, which becomes obvious later, when he declares that he wants to evolve into a human, while Elder notes that the Shumi and Squall's SeeDs are kindred spirits and equally bound by their inevitable fate. I actually agree that they might have exaggerated the gesture's importance a bit (which is more obvious in the Japanese version, where Squall adds the Shumis gave their welcome a playful touch), but your interpretation of Elder being a dick and Attendant being right is wrong.

That's Quistis' problem, though. She likes to think she understands people, but she doesn't because she never truly listens to them. Recall when they remiscence about Seifer in Galbadia; Quistis repeatedly gets his motivations and personality completely wrong, almost disappointing Squall.
>Quistis: I never would have guessed he meant it seriously...
>Squall: (The guy is always serious. You should know that by now.)
So Squall was right, weirdly enough. She wanted to talk at something, not with someone.