Rejoice PC brethren, rejoice!

Dont worry about 60fps either

So what? The PS5 may not be as powerful as a 2080 PC, but it'll be as powerful as a 2020 PC.

>reportedly
Just like the 7th gen being capable of 4K 60fps?
LOL

Don't worry Sony bros, Sony will finally deliver true cinematic FPS which will make the pc users seethe with jealousy

but thats bad news, because that means consoles will keep holding back PC games.

This actually sounds like bullshit.

>platform wars shittery
>year of our lord 2019

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>potatoe
at least PC fags aren't fucking retarded

What would compell someone to talk like this. You should be helping up your brothers,not pushing them down.

i don't get why consoles always ship underpowered compared to pc

the headline should read "Dont worry PC gamers, you are still going to get the left over shit from the PS5".

I sincerely doubt that it's going to be anywhere near a 2070 Super/5700XT. If I had to guess, despite all these rumors it's going to come out to be closer to 1660ti levels. If it actually is 2070S tier, we're either going to get another $599 US DOLLARS scenario, or Sony is going to go back to the PS3 strategy of selling at a massive loss.

Based coping retard.
The Xbox one X is at the level of a 1660

>the sheer amount of cope these peasants go through

Is the mere idea of not having the most powerful hardware something that keeps PC gamers up at night? Is that the point of owning a game system to them? Just waving ones e-peen around? Do actual games matter at all?

It is RX 580 to GTX 1060 tier. Not 1660.

The Xbone X has the equivalent of an overclocked RX480 in it, what the fuck are you talking about? The RX480 is around 25% slower than the 1660 in everything except DX12 and Vulkan. Shut the fuck up you goddamned retard.

yeah ill believe a console will have more than 20 fps when i see it

You summarised the PC gamers mentality perfectly. But don't forget that most of them still game on potatoes

T-thanks sony-sama for not crushing my pc

why its never
>Don't worry Gamers! Our game has its codebase highly optimised and every port is top notch for its desired plataform
?

PeeCee "gaming" is dead anyway.

Well if you pay $1500-$3000 for the top of the line gear in gaming, only for a fucking console to rival it for the cost of 600 bucks, then ofcourse you're going to be upset. Don't act retarded.

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True

>all that power will still go to rendering 4k and megatextures instead of stable framerate

More like as powerful as a PC of the same price. Except you can only use your toy for video games.

>won't even match a power of a 2080
>power of a 2070, which is a 1080, which will be a 4 years old GPU next year, a year where Nvidia releases 30xx cards

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>consolefags fall for lies about hardware every time and never learn
I'm getting tired of this rerun.

You can build a balanced pc with a 2080ti for about 1750,-
These 'dude 3k' pc's are custom build rigs with custom water loops and other retarded features.

Retards who don't know anything about how powerful a good PC actually is

>new gen
>already behind
wew, rip console gaming.

does anyone care about video games anymore?

Good thing that's not going to happen

>499$ APU will now be as powerfull as a 799$ stand alone GPU
oh no. how will AMD or Sony ever recover
what an amazing article of literal cope for nvidiots. buyers remorse much? sad!

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>won't even match a power of a 2080
>power of a 2070
any salsa on your claims?

>power this
>power that
Until the SM count and memory interface is known there's no real way to predict it accurately.
Also I would like to remind Snoyboys that the PS5 is not coming out this year either, by the time it's out it'll have to compare to the next generation of GPUs, not this one.

it wont match even nvidias gtx1080.

>ps5 "ray tracing" is actually audio ray tracing
>now this
oof, sonyfags can't catch a break

I won't be able to play Sucubus on ps5 and I probably won't be able to play paranoid on ps5 either
Why would I want one. Q

Why the fuck would i rejoice, that just means we get another generation of ugly shit games held back by outdated console requirements.

The seventh gen would probably be capable of that if devs were willing to turn the graphics way down.

Oh thank god, I was getting worried for a second.
hahahaha thank christ nearly had a heart attack.

Wait just a cotton pickin minute here.

I bought a RTX2080Ti like 8 months ago and the FUTURE console that isn't even OUT YET will have LESS POWER than my current OLD PC.

Holy shit give me a fucking break with your poorboxes

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Okay so wait, hol'up.
You're saying that a console that isn't even released yet, will have weaker hardware than what we have available right now, and this weaker hardware will have to last them for SEVERAL YEARS?

It'll be near a 2070 Super in video quality.
After you factor in dynamic resolution and barely-30fps cap

The future of gaming is google stadia, stop discussing your irrelevant consoles and celebrate a new era in gaming.

>highly optimised and every port is top notch for its desired plataform
>30fps with dips + aggressive upscale

With cloud computing an $400 console will have better graphics that ANY PC you out-of-touch fags can build.

>video quality.
in prerendered cutscenes?

t. 250ms input lag and 20gigs/hour bandwidth required for even basic gameplay

>cloud this cloud that.
fuck off already with your marketing

Waiting for Dwarf Fortress to be a finished game before I upgrade or buy anything.

>GUYS THE NEW PLAYSTATION IS MORE POWERFUL THEN A SUPERCOMPUTER!!!1! PCFAGS BTFO!
Are retarded tech illiterates really gonna fall for this garbage again?
Did they not learn anything from the PS3?

>Don't worry
why would anyone "worry" about a console release?
>Rejoice PC brethren, rejoice!
why would anyone rejoice over a console not being as powerful?

the 2080ti by itself costs more than half that, what kind of lopsided monstrosity are you trying to build?

>consolekids
>learning fucking anything
LOL

I paid $300 for a PC with a RTX 2080 in it, I'm not concerned about the PS5 at all.

The OP
If it's not even as powerful as a 2070 then there's no point in making a new console anyway.

the graphics card will always be the most expensive part by a large margin user

SUPERCHARGED PC

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GPU is the most important componet of a gaming PC. If it isn't by far the most expensive thing you buy, you're building a workstation and not a game machine.

More overly, if everything on it is exclusive why would anyone give a fuck how powerful it is? There is a plane flying around in the sky with more horse power than my car. Am I jealous? No? So what the fuck? Like who cares.

PC audience will never bother with high end gaming until they make 4k monitors cheap, and they can't even make good 2k monitors cheap.
lg.com/ca_en/desktop-monitors/lg-27GL850-B
$700 for a fucking 2k monitor worth shit.
$700 gets you a 3600, motherboard and 16g ram, and a 1070 which is minimum requirements for 2k so basically you backed yourself into a corner, you upgrade so that you have to upgrade again. All to play Gears of My Feelings 5
If you even do the insane act of going 4k, you will never ever be able to catch up, as soon as you build your high end rig it's already outdated. PC was all about smart increments and 4k contradicts that.
tl;dr 4k was a scam to choke the PC market and push a dying homeconsole/tv market

I'm still not bothering with 4K when the current overpriced GPUs can barely handle 144hz on the current titles at 1080p.

And to make my point even clearer.

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>more powerful than 2070
and just how do you expect sony to cram a 700 dollar gpu that's almost as large as a ps4 into a box that's presumably going to be slimmer than a ps4, and will be released at approx. 600 dollars?
there's literally zero logic to this blatant lie.
ps4 and xbone were REPORTDELY going to be more powerful than the mid-high range cards at the time, then when they get released we find out their archtecture is based on a weakened radeon hd 7870. that's a gimped version of a low-mid tier card from 2011. i'm assuming ps5 is going to have equivalent to a gtx 750 NON-ti

how stupid you are?
good 4k tv is more then 1000$ if not 1200$

I hate this shit. Nothing but clickbait. A company someone get a hold of top of the line components that they can sell for a fraction of the price of currently available ones. Only way this could be possible of a gateway to the future opened up inside the asshole of a sony executive.

Who cares?

Stadia is out soon which will make all other consoles and expensive PCs invalid?

>playstationfags thinking they are getting anything but a prebuilt laptop episode
This is what? The fourth rerun? PS3, PS4, PS4 Pro, PS5.

What am I looking at here exactly

charge your fucking phone

Who the fuck is playing at 1366 x 768?

You're looking at the vast majority of the pc gaming audience, steam hardware survey for August of 2019.

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Tons of old laptops use that, BRs and Russians often can't do better. I mean, go to /g/'s desktop thread sometimes.

I see

>see headline
>must be true!
kk

And which card is the equivalent to whatever is used in current gen consoles?

you DO know that literally 90% of all computers taking part of steam survey are internet coffees in china and korea? holy fuck this place get more stupid each passing summer.

I hope the majority of those 1060 users are on the 6gb model. I also hope nVidia pulls that fucking stunt again within the same line of card.

Anyone know if the Super line is tagged as such, despite being just glorified higher clock stock?

>i'm assuming ps5 is going to have equivalent to a gtx 750 NON-ti
brainlet.
sony is paying for new gen APU's, maybe even Microsoft too. thats what RDNA is.

My friend claims that the nintendo switch is more powerful than the PS3

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Based deceptive retard.

"Current gen" is no longer current gen, compare it to "next gen" which will be out in under a year

both were shit and overpriced
if you stricly looking at the TFLOPs of both, i guess switch is more powerfull

Yes, I'm sure internet cafes in china have an overbearing number of gtx 1060 in their rigs.
How fucking desperate can someone be in their denial?

It is.

That's not the point, those casual core gamers are still gamers

>have an overbearing number of gtx 1060 3GB in their rigs.
this but unironically.

The ps5 is going to have a card that is the equivent to a RTX 4080 that will release a year after the console for sure.

But console graphics are already dogshit

>at least PC fags aren't fucking retarded
>GTAV hacks are selling like hotcackes
>lewdmods for REmake2 are selling like hotcackes
>at least PC fags aren't fucking retarded

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its not coming out today is it ?
in 2 years a 2000 dollaritos pc won't be worth 2000 dollars
anyway
enjoy your fake 4k 30fps exclusives i guess

A good 4k tv thats great at gaming, and actually has legit hdr wil send you back over 2k.
But, thats 65" and destroys any high end monitor thats also almost 2k. (Modern oleds are 4k 120hz with freesync)

youtube.com/watch?v=rKcWT1LIH3M
Imagine what they would have to do to fit that shit in a console.
PS5 would have to come as big as the OG XBOX, with a mandatory vertical position, ventilation ducts and dust filters. And, it would be loud as fuck.

It's coming out september next year. I'm obviously accounting for that, and that time frame is reasonable

>audio ray tracing
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
laughing so hard rn

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Your friend is not only correct but nobody, except like fucking Naughty Dog, knew how to make games on that piece of shit for the first like 5 years of it's life cycle because of how fucking retarded the CELL processor was

PS3 was a real piece of shit that got there in the end.

2080ti- 1200,-
9700k- 280,-
Mobo- 100,-
16gb ram- 70,-
Pc case- 70,-
Psu- 80,-.
1800,- I was off by 50,-. But then you have the best of the best perfomance wise. Getting a 9900k will only get you about 1-5fps extra so thats not worth the cost,since the difference between 160 and 165fps is not that big of a deal.
If you look around it can get even cheapers if you focus just pure on performance.

>an apu can run anywhere near as powerful as a 2070
you're a fucking idiot, not even in the next 5 years

>80
>psu
You're trusting that monster rig to some shit or what? The entry level for gold psu is $100-120, for a basic seasonic plus or whatever.

>implying toady isn't going to die soon
>implying the magic update is ever coming out

It isn't really about power as much as it's about what you can't do on a console. I don't think we really need much more than whats already available for a long while. I have both consoles and a PC so before I get the inevitable
>buzzword buzzword seething cope buzzword console wars matter
Stop pretending to be retarded.

PS4 Pro is a 300 watt machine, a typical desktop machine tier power consumption and it cool just fine.
You can't compare it to laptop because laptop have a form factor that they need to adhere.

>wow this console will have the same performance as a card that costs twice as much it
imagine being this retarded

Thinly veiled sour grapes for death stranding thread

to be fair my PC doesn't match 1080 GTX either LOL

Sorry I was basing it on dutch prices here.
It's with a gold psu, dont worry Im not a retard

Do PCunts actually worry about getting outperformed? Ps5 will be probably on the same level of 1050 ti or 1060 6gb.

seriously these cucks do these every fucking time. Listening to them drone on about how great their console is going to be is so mind numbing.

And every release they are quietly hushed off until the next revision announcement

>Do PCunts actually worry about getting outperformed?
Of course not. It's corporate fanboy-slaves false flagging to jerk each other off.

>it's a next gen console is going to do 8k 240 fps and be 300 dollars episode

You fall for this every decade. A brand new console generation is only as good as a lower mid tier PC of that time period. My 2080ti 9700k will outperform the entirety of the next generation including revision PS5 pro plus slim ultra edition whatever.

PS4 Pro GPU is already on RX570 tier, it just being held back massively by CPU.
I used to pair my old 480 with an amd FX and when I switch to 3600 the performance almost doubled.

The CPU bottleneck is real with PS4 Pro.
Which is why they can push for higher res than full HD but still retain the same fps.

You serious?

1440p and 4K monitors are cheap now. Even mcdonalds workers could afford those. Those models that feature freesync and low latency mode have dropped in price considerably and are in some cases just another $50 above the lowest priced monitor in the same spec class. And those monitors with gaming performance (low latency, high refresh etc) arent a world away in price class, you can get a 1ms 1440p 144hz monitor for $350 today and it isn't shit either. The biggest cost for high resolution gaming is the pc hardware required to run it, but if we only talk about the monitor itself, its not that expensive.

>lg.com/ca_en/desktop-monitors/lg-27GL850-B
>$700 for a fucking 2k monitor worth shit.

That would be $700 for the best performing monitor ever made for the consumer market. Its still in the same price class as the other monitors in its segment, but it still outperforms them in pretty much every way.

Most steam users aren't adult western men with cash to spare. They have a lot of users in second and third world countries, plus internet cafes who cant really invest that heavily in to their hardware. Steam surveys don't really reflect what the market offers.

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>people good at a thing sell the service
wow user you are like really really really really really smart

no you didn't

Last I hard it will be as powerful as an RTX 2070 at best, a low end GPU in 2020.

Yes I did.

Where are those 120fps PS3 games Ken Kutaragi promised us? The PS4 can barely handle 30fps and now Sony is prepping their next console to have 4k. What's next? 8k gaming? 12k? 24k? Will the PS6 do your taxes and kiss your wife too? I bet it'll conveniently be a neat $300 too. It's a pretty good deal for people who only love playing Fifa.

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>27GL850-B
This shit is 2080ti equivalent of monitors, nigger. Your average pleb won't bother and will just buy some TN shit for half the price (or even less).
Also, 4k is a meme.

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Sub 30 fps again confirmed already I see

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120fps > 10-30 choppy fps(the best result any console gets)
This singlehandedly deletes any reason to get a console aside from non-multiplat exclusives.

Change my mind.

human eyes can’t even see above 30fps so your argument is moot

I'm so worried g*mers! What if my little white PClitty gets outclassed by Sonys Big Black Box? Our g*merhood bros... How can we compete...

His argument is a cuck?

I've had a 4k monitor since 2013 when I built my PC.
I haven't even bothered upgrading a single part yet.
I can still play every game released on high settings, some in 4k.

this pic bothers me because it was made based on the final product rather than what really happened, so here's some corrections

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>most PC fags still only play at 1080p according to steam
>complain about stronger systems
Lmao

Even if its as good as a RTX 2070 (protip: its not), we will have ampere by the end of 2020.

Fuck console faggots.

Consoles run at 1440p with bullshit interlaced checkerboard 4k stacked on top, basically proving what everybody has known for years: 2k was the sweet spot, 4k was a marketing scam.

Based retard didn't get the point of my opening post

Ignore this, I was meant to direct it at someone else's post

haha yeah theres 2000 dollars worth of components in a 500 dollar machine haha YES

If by 'we" you meant 5% of PC gamers, than yes.

If you do end up being in that 5% then
Have fun wasting 3 grand

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That headline is pretty funny if you think about it. Of course the consoles wouldn't match a high end card, that still says nothing about its actual power but leads retards to believe it must be the next step down from a 2080.

Steam have 90million active user.
3.5 million user on 1440p and higher is pretty darn good.

You don't need a fucking 5g to do 4k nowadays and most people would opt for 144hz over 4k resolution.
Fuck off.

The PS4 will have the GPU power of a 400$ gpu on release date at best.

Anyone who acualy believes the PS5 will have a 800$ gpu but cost only 400$ is brainwashed by marketing.
Bonus retard points if you acualy believe a PC stronger than a Ps5 will cost anything more than 700$.

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>haha take that pc muskrat ace! You have to buy a 700$ monitor!

Consoletard proceeds to
>waste 800$ on the newest consoleshit in order to keep up with mid tier graphics card on PC
>Proceeds to waste 600$ on a 4K TV that can keep up, even then most likely it's checkerboarding anyway.
>has to pay to play

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>every PC below 2080 is garbage
How does it feel you play on garbage hardware PC cucks?

>waste
More like invest
>800$
This is what PC shit eaters to do to play broken ports

lol cope

They sell at a loss on consoles

>we will have ampere by the end of 2020
keep paying more for barely any gains
I hope at least AMD pushes RDNA2 to compete and bring down these stupid prices

>1080p is standard on PC while consoles like PS4 pro or Xbone X have 1440p or 4K
This is embarrassing. PC holds back gaming

>less than 10% of PC cucks play above 1080p
>many even below
>c-consoles are weak, they hold back gaming!

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At best it will be around the same power as the current low-mid end AMD GPU's.

Based.
Some "master race" they are

Also based

so better than PC fags have? Based Sony.

will it be just rx 5700 i guess

more like 540

No, about the same as a 1060 6GB, so around either 580 or 590 performance at BEST. More then likely lower then that.

Still not upgrading my PC until this dumb one sided war between EGS and Steam stops being a thing.

I'll buy a PS5 tho.

You gotta love how PCretins only constantly brag here about superior multiplats at 4k and 60fps when only 1% of them can achieve 4k alone, not even talking about 4k+60fps.
>almost 20% can't even reach full hd
Hahahahaha

It's been getting worse lately too
Review bombing is more rampant than ever, I genuinely can't find a single useful review for console exclusives because of the flood of dishonest 0s and 10s

Remember when the PS4 was a "supercharged PC" but ended up getting BTFO in every multiplat by a 7850, a $150 card?
Imagine actually believing Sony's marketing lmao

And still shits on every PC at the same price? Yeah, I remember.

The games on consoles usually look like they're on low/medium settings, with shit FPS, compared to PC. That's not really a bad thing it's just the way it is with a console, you get what you pay for. I do not understand why people take these articles seriously.

Here's a faithful tl;dr of why nobody upgrades pc
>have solid ultra high 1080p rig
>ask for upgrades to play at 1440p on /g/ or any other place
>lots of shitposting, poorfag namecalling and recommendations for $2200 from-scratch rig to run shit at ultra high at 4k (this is true even for single components like heatsinks or psu)
>any other request but the ultra high 4k tier is ignored or mocked
>people start second guessing their choice to go 2k because they bought into the 4k insults
>"eh, maybe I'll wait when 4k gpus get cheaper"
Which will never happen because the point of 4k is to have an impossibly hard to max out resolution so you can sell hardware for-fucking-ever.
Console users instead upgrade because they're like the idiots that buy $800 mountain bikes to drive in an urban environment: they do what others do, they never question what they're recommended, even if it's fucking retarded.
It's also easier to justify spending money on a console + tv because you can watch movies, sport, and just about anything you want on a big screen, which is also a socialfagging tool for normalfags, on pc you don't get the same bang for the buck, inch per inch. Plus the fact you don't spend a premium to live off console scraps.
It really doesn't, God of War would run on a 1060 at higher detail and framerate. That is, if it was on PC.

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A 1060 in 2014 (ps4 release) was a decent card you retard

1060 beats PS4 pro performance, original PS4 is barely at the same level of a 960.

Getting the price down is more important than getting every last drop of power you can squeeze.

Because no one but a bunch of faggots actually cares about power and stuff. People who buy consoles want to play videogames, nothing more.

underrated

I just bought a 650 dollar pc with a nvidia geforce 1660 and I doubt it's gonna be as powerful as this thing.

nvm, I still doubt I buy one since I know my brother will buy it day 1 as long as their are enough units that he can get his hands on one. I'll just play it at his house.

Don't forget a decent 1080p is also SUPER cheap, making it sort of ideal for just starting out in PC gaming, unless you have money to make a PC that can handle 1440p or 4K and can also afford a decent 1440p or 4K monitor to go with it.

>Master race
>Recommends 1080p gaming if don't have money to burn

PC players don’t even play games. The ps5 will win by default since PlayStation owners actually play video games.

so? Its not like consoles run well at even 1080p. 99% of console games that are even remotely demanding run like shit by lowering making use of dynamic resolution or lowering a lot of other stuff heavily.
On PC you're running at native res all the time for a majority of games.

>Consoles can't even run 1080p
>Thinking of 8 year old ps4, acts like ps5 isn't a thing and we are just gonna use ps4 for the next 20 years

The console market is shrinking, we'll see if the combined LTD gets to 100m, it looks unlikely.

Oh, great. Another gen where my current PC is already running leaps around consoles that aren't even out yet.

thrilled.

But why do switch games look like shit? downloaded the dragon quest demo recently and the models popping in was hilarious.

Battery technology is stuck in 2010.

If the PS5 will be able to run every game at 60fps 1080p i will be impressed.

What I'm looking forward to are the upcoming buzzwords they are gonna come up with. I still laugh when I see people talking about "checkerboarded" 4Kinda.

stop making these terrible threads you inbred

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I mean, PS3 couldn't render fucking grass in RDR

imagine being so fucking blind

I guess you don't know what supercharged means.

>his name is almost Salt
lmao

PS3 couldn't render anything transparent like grass, water, blood, that is why Mafia and RDR had no grass and NGS 1 and 2 were "censored", they simply had to remove polygons (chopped off limbs) and alpha blending shit (pools of blood) otherwise no way that shit was running higher than 10fps.
See: Bayonetta. Kamiya made the game around the 360 so there was a bunch of transparent shit flying all over the place, including pubic hair. PS3 had a botched quick port and all around a disaster.

because they need to sell them to people dingus, nowadays zoomers play vidya on their 900$ potato phones if you approach thw market with a 800$ console they will meme at you and laugh

You cannot be concerned with the performance of a console without conceding that consoles are inferior PCs. That's the long and short of it. Consoles have their benefits, but performance is not one of them.

Why are there no competitive companies who build PC's for your average person?

2080ti bros ww@???

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I think those prices have a spare zero

How is this fucking good?
It means that consoles will hold back games again

And that's a good thing

Salz is the german word for salt.

>actually thinking console faggots know anything about technology
it's all so tiresome

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Why would I care about the power of consoles? I am not "worried" that the ps5 will be stronger than my pc. It's less flexible and I'll get more powerful hardware if I really want it within a year. Console wars are for console players.

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>again
So long as multi-platform releases are the general amount of games for obvious reasons, consoles will always hold games back.

Hopefully next gen consoles are at least 2060 levels otherwise it'll probably be a really underwhelming gen

Consolefags are emboldened by Epic's war on PC gaming.

>reportedly
>no official specs from snoy
oh boy i can't wait to see it all get sweeped under the rug when PS5 has no backwards compatibility and is actually more on par with a mid-range GPU
but you retards will still shitpost about it for the time being

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shitposting aside none of you fucking console idiots actually believe that a 500 dollar machine will have the gpu power of a 1200 dollar card and a cpu that won't bottleneck it to hell (another 300 to 500 dollars) right? If you think sony can work some magic to make such a device and still keep the price at 5 to 6 hundred dollars then please let me know how that's possible.

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Well, you think MS/Sony can afford to spend like 500$ alone in GPUs for those boxes that should cost 499 or less for the entire package?

After the 360 and PS3 lost Microsoft and Sony ass tons of money, you're retarded if you think they're selling them at any notable loss again.

God this board is shit. Retards will reply to the worst bait. When’s 8ch coming back?

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This is bad news for all PC gamers.

The better specs consoles have, the better it is for PC gaming, as technology will progress.

Don't forget having no CPU either

Should be this month

It's the nature of consoles anyway. Anyone who's expecting Microsoft and Sony to subsidize consoles with a 2080ti equivalent GPU in them + Ryzen 3900X is a complete retard.

obviously, but its nothing to rejoice over.

>AN APU EQUIVALENT TO A RTX 2070

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Feels good :)

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Are you mentally retarded?

>illiteracy
console friends sure are fun. he didn't say anything below the 2080 is trash, he said consoles use trash.

>PlayStation
>Nigger
What do you think?

Me thinks he is

does anybody have the version of this with souls games

Where's your monitor or cooler or storage retard? Your cpu price off by half and your mobo cost is off too.

You don't factor a monitor into a PCs price just like you don't factor a TV into a consoles price.

Why would I be happy that the ps5 will be shittier? that just means the graphic ceiling for the next 8 years will be lower.

That's a PS4 game, brainlet. A PS3 wouldn't even be able to get that game running.

>ps5 will probably be sub $500
>2070S alone costs $600

Anyone who goes PC next gen is actually a moron

I got both my 32" va freesync 4k monitors for $400 canadian each and that was a good year ago. Just don't be a moron and wait for a sale.

Why would PC gamers worry either way?
Like as if cheap hardware is a bad thing

Why not? If you bought a TV so you can play your 4k games at 30 fps, it's no different than pc users when they base their build around their monitor. Sounds like you're trying to save your ass because you thought left out half the cost of building a pc so you could win an argument.

The userbase of Yea Forums is little kids whose parents buy them one console. They then feel the need to shit on the other consoles. That is what console wars are.

Consoles are holding back gaming.

>it will not match the power of 2080
>it will have high visual quality games that will never ever touch nvidia hardware
Pointless.