What will graphics be like in 2042?

I'm judging a game 5 years in development, probably more, with 1/3 of the promised content, split up and sold in chunks that looks like it's bare minimum effort. So yes, I'm judging what I've seen so far, because this is all they've shown in that time span.

based retard

Soul vs soulless.

I'm skeptical and you should be too, why are you so defensive? You some sort of corporate cuck? Is this one of those threads where you defend products for free because you feel you have no worth?

SOUL

Crayola squiggles.

how did they fuck up Omnislash this badly

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hopefully in the future, developers will see what a blight realism is...

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>you should share my views

based retard

Is this an auto-mode or are you unable to turn it off?

I don't get it. What is this webm trying to imply?

auto mode. They're attempting to imitate a turn based style, I guess?

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>because you've totes played the remake
And yes, it did/will. Millenials and zoomers just can't recongize it because the group up with a different generation of games. FFVII is an absolutely top-tier gaming experience due to components that can't be reproduced in the modern age. Such as the depth and tragedy of Cid's marriage and the overall silliness injected sporadically to lighten the mood from the heavy portions of the story. You can't do silly elements with ultra-realism.

based on this image I can only assume that they will be even worse.

back to redit

am I the only one who hates games with good graphics
I'm not being ironic

no better than today
diminishing returns

No, realism is pretty shit in both visuals and gameplay.

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Is this Monster Hunter?

Now that is a meme I've not seen in a long time... a long time.

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Graphical performance actually peaked years ago and once experience casting became a more common thing people were less excited about visual stimulation anyway.

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I can hear the music in my head.

Realism is a plague on creativity

your post is implying your room-temp IQ

this
games are looking so good but their gameplay is so shallow

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kek how do they fuck up the combat this bad

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go back

The problem with this game, and SE in general is that they've become so afraid of making games that don't appeal to everyone
They want to remake a classic JRPG, while also reinventing it to appeal to today's audience. This just results in a worse game honestly. The battle system looks boring as fuck, no decision making whatsoever, it's only the illusion of it. mash X until I can choose one of my big moves wow so cool.

You alienate the classic fans, and you dumb the game down for new players. Seriously what the fuck was that classic, normal and hard setting? Why? Why can't you be confident in your design and choose something.

i got the image from Yea Forums. Reddit apparently loves the combat so you would fit perfectly there

I don't remember the original game choosing attack for me.

Why exactly are people so obsessed with the quality of graphics in video games? Wouldn't you care more for gameplay itself and not the visuals? Don't you want the game to be fun and not just look good?

It autoattacks to speed up charging the ATB gauge.

I'm still waiting for the day in which games will look so good and the gameplay will be amazing.
Granted in reality it aint possible.
Also there's nothing wrong with a game pushing a system to it's limits

This.
Also choosing to go for realism while still keeping the goofy af scenes of the original because they want both the old fans and the zoomer audience who watched advent children on their dad's PC

you don't have to announce your plans mate nobody cares

The leap from 97 to 2020 is far more pronounced than the leap from 2020 to 2043 is gonna be. We're reaching a plateau

the remastered music is terrible, sucked all the soul from the original music

Honestly, the jump in graphics between 97 and 2020 isn't that impressive.

That's what I thought last gen.

People said that in 97. They said it in 2004. They said it in fucking 2014. We're not, you just can't see how far it has to go.

Much different than wait to cast thunder and you pretty much win the fight of the original?

if it's not immediately clear why bother trying to make people mad with it?

I don't hate them, but I prefer a game with more creative graphics. I'm currently playing Call of Duty WWII and it's annoying to see a extremely realistic human and the next second water, blood or smoke that looks like pixelated shit.

>you can't do silly elements with ultra realism
What is MGS5?

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I remember when a guy told exactly the same in 2008 or 2009.

Sounds like you're speaking from experience with that last point. Also why do I get the feeling that 75% of the posts on this thread are from one guy?

And he was totally correct because the difference between 1999 and 2009 is way, way more pronounced than 2009 and 2019.

Counterpoint: Try remaking Blazing Saddles in this ultra-realism high-drama phase of cinematography. All the sudden "Fuck you, Nigger!" rudely spewed out by a white lady doesn't sound so silly with moody light filters and gritty audio ambience.

One of the greatest movies ever made. I'm so happy that it's impossible to remake because it would offend every fucking person born after 1985 on the planet.

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well get holodecks as vydia

>Sounds like you're speaking from experience with that last point
Because I've known someone like that

>this ultra-realism high-drama phase of cinematography
When the fuck did that ever happen because that's certainly not how I'd describe the things coming out of Hollywood right now.

Well FF7 (PS1) Is not:
Episodic for starters.
And
Has a full open world.
FF7 Remake is:
Episodic
Not open world.
So yes, the original FF7 has better gameplay.

Blazing Saddles was very much trying to be offensive to send a message.

your younger self would not be able to beat that boss in the original
give a kid a controller and have him play the remake, he will mash a button and win

We are on the verge of a major graphics upgrade due to ray tracing.

The current RTX cards are kinda bad but watch out for next gen.

It doesn't matter when the gameplay will be shallow and games will be censored to hell

>Guard Scorpian attacks the shit out of them
>Tiny numbers splashing everywhere but they never go below 90% HP

STYLE
OVER
SUBSTANCE

Are you being sarcastic? Go watch a move from the 70s. The first thing you notice how much lighter it feels. There's no picture filters. There's no constant ambience. There's no artificial darkness. There's no forced drama in every scene. Actors in general smiles more and were less intense. It was another world. A much better world.

The types that seek to be offended don't give a fuck about context. If you said a bad word, your career is over.

The irony.

Pretty much every single person who uses this meme is a certified retard.

Yet another trashy meme that claims to despise mindless conformity yet revels in it.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Go watch 12 Angry Men.

The fuck are you talking about? The gym fights in pokemon red and blue were harder than that shit, and I played that when I was a kid.

it better be full-dive by that point

remember to buy dlc materia faggot

At least in the original FF7 the only time the game removed control from the player was during FMVs, which were brief by the necessity of storage space. I can't wait to see how it pans out when the game has to stop every 3 minutes to waste time on fully voiced conversations with NPCs, let alone the exposition dumps among your party members.

There's only so far you can go, if you think we can go another leap as large as the mess of polygons in the original seven to the remake graphics you're delusional. The improvements to graphics will be stuff like realistic shadows and Ray tracing and shit like that, no where near as impactful or noticeable as now and 20 years agos differences

I was born before that movie even came out. I am old as dirt. 12 Angry Men showcased amazing acting and a rockstar production crew (the actual written story was shit and they made magic out of it). It didn't rely heavily on all the smoke and mirrors that movies today over-use to cover up shit acting and writing. There wasn't a film-cut every 3 seconds. Some of those shots in 12 Angry Men were over 3 minutes long - uncut. The idea of a 20 second uncut scene in modern movies is insane, yet alone 3 minutes.

Graphics are only causing the cost of game production to skyrocket. We cant sustain things they way they are going.

What was this horse guy's name again? I remember you need to search the train graveyard defeat it to get a materia or special item.

no, you just buy the materia as dlc

Why does this sound so familiar?

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Better than 2019 graphics

Stop lying its a automated mode and you can hold to attack by default

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I anticipate that since 9th gen will bring about a surplus with graphical fidelity, a peak that cannot be surpassed, devs will finally learn that good gameplay is superior and focus on that instead.

at least, I hope...

when you spend millions making games you cant reall afford to make it niche, even nier automata needed a waifu to make the cut

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It's from a little while back.

Aerith still dies in 2042

Exactly the same, and at 30fps, as to be playable on the latest 72K screens.

What the FUCK did you just say to me?

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>You can't do silly elements with ultra-realism
That Frog!Cloud with a mini-Bustersword on his back must have been my imagination then...

I think you just prove his point.

will we see a bahamut summon in this first episodic game ?

What I'm looking forward to is where VR is going to be at in 20-30 years, pretty much completely for the porn possibilities. To be able to be like "I feel like fucking Tifa today", and then just being able to do it.

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>the gacha fag has had his brain melted by playing too much gacha, and now all he can think about when playing other games is gacha
rip

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They'd better. Do regular Bahamut in this one, then Neo Bahamut in the next game, and then Bahamut Zero in the one after that.

>Really_Itchy_Leg.gif
lulz

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Yes, I proved the point that
>You can't do silly elements with ultra-realism
but at the same time I was refuting the implication of that post that FFVIIR is an "ultra-realism game".

That bottom picture is so blurry. Stop playing PS4 games on your CRT from 1984.

yeah i was playing Metroid earlier and i was blown away by how deep and complex the gameplay is. you can aim in 8 different directions shooting out two different types of projectiles. You can even get an upgrade that lets you jump HIGHER.

modern games are fucking shallow garbage

>Such as the depth and tragedy of Cid's marriage and the overall silliness injected sporadically to lighten the mood from the heavy portions of the story
>can't be reproduced in the modern age
what the fuck are you babbling about, you incoherent retard?

Isn’t that what you’re doing to though?

Probably much less than we have seen since 1996. Wouldnt be surpised if micro led 4k 144hz console gaming and 7ghz processors still isnt a thing

As opposed to the original? Turn-based is the most shallow gameplay style to exist

It was decent for its time. You could of course argue that ff7 is a reskin of 6 is a reskin of 5 is a reskin of dragon quest etc. But im not willing to play a reskin of ff15. Let alone pay for it.

zoom zoom

wrong

it didn't look like a clusterfuck at least

FF7's combat was a masterpiece of strategy and innovation

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convenient how the other enemy is killed in this gif

Dark Nation goes down in 3-4 hits

Is the FF7 iOS mobile port worth playing? I’ve never played FF7 before, and I’m thinking I should before the remake. My friend just gifted it to me on the app store

>Telling someone they have an IQ of 21.
That's not nice.

everyone knows the elevator boss is better in this section anyway.

>ultra grim dark and realistic!
>squats scene
>cheesy corneo
>frog
>same over the top dialogue
>same ridiculous weapons
>same anime abilities
>same lighthearted romance with obliviousCloud
>same ridiculous enemy designs
Of all the bing bing doom posts, thus one is the laziest. Stop being disengeous and just admit you don't like the graphics.

Well considering we're rubbing up against the limits of silicon, not much better than 2020 sadly.

Can't shrink dies much smaller than they are, because of quantum tunneling, even if we move to something with a higher thermal tolerance like GaN (also vastly more expensive, hope you guys like $20,000+ computer hardware) that only extends this so much further.

The way things are looking the best smart phones of the future can hope for is to end up a little weaker than the best desktop computers of today and that's it. Desktop computers meanwhile will get 5-10x better than they are today and stop, but we won't see the 100x increases we saw in the past ever again. We'll be hitting a limit and have to live with that limit for the foreseeable future. Be prepared for computer technology getting better and smaller to plateau dramatically for 50+ years or more and then abruptly stop while everyone struggles to figure out some other way to make computers smaller/faster.

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1-2 if you play that fight properly. Penultimate boss of Midgar and you can beat him in less than 30 seconds.

It's a fairly safe stance to take, that realism is the death of fantasy regardless of what context you're making this statement about.
All those things you mentioned now stick like a sore thumb in a game with those dour dark miserable smoky graphics.
This is literally like DC trying to make Justice League "funny" by upping brightness in post.
I'm reserving the right to decide after they show what's out of Midgar, if even places like the Gold Saucer and Costa del Sol are dull, drab and boring like Midgar, they can go fucking die.

>piss easy boss
>still immune to basically everything
Why do final fantasy games do this again?

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Same, but I'm not counting on it.

>literal projection and opinion
>I'm reserving the right to decide
>decides to take the stance of pedantry anyway
Yeah no. They don't stick out any more than they did with enormous block people in prerendered backgrounds preforming them. I swear, only literal contrarians have a problem with a remake including scenes faithful to the original; and then trying to spin them into something that doesn't "fit."

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>realism is the death of fantasy
Fuck off, you pretentious twat.

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much better than reality, since we all know improvement towards reality is linear and infinite.

>they'll still be remaking the same shit in 2042
The absolute state of weebs.

because they dont really know how to make mechanically tight games.
they only know how to cobble a lot of entertaining ideas together in a way where people tolerate the absence of that competence.

We are *ALWAYS* on the verge of a major graphics upgrade due to ray tracing.

It never happens because rasterization keeps getting better, faster, and 'real time' raytracing requires that you fake everything with machine learning in order for it to not look like garbage.

I hope vehicles keep the same aesthetic.

youtu.be/KCfAuI9ElEA

Name a "competent" and "mechanically tight" JRPG. FF hating faggot.

How can Crysis even compete?

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Dark Souls 2

Remember, detrimental status effects mostly exist to be used against the player, not by the player.
This is especially true and evident if they persist after battles.

What the player is allowed to do with them is generally a design afterthought, and most devs err on the side of caution or else you get stuff like the Poison effect in Tales of Symphonia.

Look how far we've come in 12 years...

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Nocturne

Dragon Quest, the grandfather of the JRPG somehow managed to get by letting the player inflict any status effects they want. It's only Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy inspired games that have this design flaw.

Pixel art

everyone is replaced with PoC and trannies, actual retards in wheelchairs, all guns removed

I'm from the future

you are retarded

Why are graphics improving but gameplay hasn't since the year 2000?

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so you need to buy the new graphic card you stupid goy

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Yeah, they did it by allowing enemies to just fucking attack you while they're CCed anyway

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You couldn't have found a bigger strawman, retard.

It's a reaction image you fucking sperg lmao

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No graphics, the experiences are are streamed to our consciousness directly. Your mind is being told in an abstract way the emotions and reactions that it should have.

>people are mad over this
I'd kill for a remake of KotOR or Mass Effect.

Eligor is another one of those nonsensical FF7 enemies. If it's in, the Hell House should be as well.

I think they'll be superbosses, or maybe Eligor is a train graveyard boss?

The remake looks so fun. Doomfags need to step up their game

>actual house sized Hell House superboss
WANT

1997
>cool background
2020
>a fucking aircraft hangar

>Cloud doing break dance moves whenever he is standing too long on one spot
based

It's the train graveyard you retard.

Wait, they're actually adding in all the wacky ass enemies from the original? I know it's still Square, but I felt the mildest spark of hope in my soul just now.

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So all the summonings will be in this remake?

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only thing XV did well was enemy designs

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This. It has many open spaces like this when you move the trains around. There won't be battle transitions, unlike the original.

>Special edition already sold out
This game will be unstoppable

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Please tell me they're going to get more. This is the one game I actually wanted to get the collector's edition for.

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We are going backwards now, budgets exploded and now publishers want to reign it back so graphics will go back or stay the same for most titles.

They will still run like shit of course, because they won't be optimized. The reason being, they get money from nvidia to keep people needing to upgrade.

You were born before 1957? Lucky user, barely dodged the draft in time.

Did you watch the last gen games being touted at e3 or nah?

The entire industry is fully embracing diversity hiring, which means they hire less skilled people if they have a vagina or dark skin pigment.

With this being a fact you seem to think things are going to get...better?

>when you spend millions making games you cant reall afford to make it niche
Don't spend millions on it.

If you just got it gifted then play it you fucking retard, yes you should play it before the remake.

BASED

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Gaming will be dead in the west since people wont be able to afford games. Somewhere by 2030 qe4 as in qualitative easing 4 stops and the economy goes into negative interests rates. Which means you have to pay a bank to store your money and banks pay interest to borrow from each other. This will be the last dicth effort to postpone a collapse and a collapse will happen forcing countries to dump the US dollar and store in other assets like gold, bitcoin, and asian markets. The money flowing into asia will keep the markets gowing in japan, china and korea as well as south east asia. The us dollar will reach its true value which is closer to 2cents plus a huge debt that will turn insolvent. The us will have to cut deals and treaties mostly treaties of non interferance to china. The job market in the usa will collapse and things like universal basic income will now be impossible since no one will loan money to the usa after this. The only asset will be americas population. Everytime an american is born banks loan the us government about a .75 of 1 million. Youre the product. Which is why america is the oy g20 country that taxes theyre citizens even if they move abroad. The middle class will be lost and people will struggle just to eat the basics of foods. Imagine going from 1st world to an economy smaller than mexico. There will also be a population reduction and not i dont mean murder and other conspiracy shit. I mean a brain drain. People with money who can affors residency in other countries will leave along with their business and capital. Its gonna be ugly. Economics fag here. If you havent hedged and invested elsewhere some of that house and property equity prepare to get butt fucked come 2020. People are gonna have equity in their houses dissapear over night. Imagine 200i x3 or x5 plus the student loan bubble on top. Youve been warned. Also starting fall 2019 do not put money into startups. Peace.

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Scary. Fuck that.

Yeah? We've known since E3

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new bad old good

I've never played FF7 but it looks so weird how you have this sort of steampunk/sci-fi landscape with these classic JRPG characters and monsters doing magic shit and fighting with big swords.

Whh are people even giving this shitty episodic """""game""""" any fucking attention? Ally hype and talk should have died the momemt they showed it was a XV clone and E P I S O D I C. Kill your fucking selves.

Because it's a PS4 game. They're nostalgia-driven soiboys. I bet most of them cried at the reveal in 2015.

you realized he was talking about gameplay, not narrative, right

What's interesting is that FFV in particular breaks the mold super hard, many bosses have a ton of specific status weaknesses which is how things like Four Job Fiesta can work with any job combination.

The problem after that point is that the player has no legitimate way to know that without a wiki open. If these things were broadcast in advance and the player had better agency, these strengths would be more apparent on a first playthrough, not just a replay.

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imagine wanting this hard to dislike everything

top looks better

will every ff7 enemy now be a 10 minute boss fight with summons and shit?

Pretty sure they made Eligor the train graveyard boss.

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Big enemies will be.

Expect Hell House to be a miniboss

Fuck off with your censored game.

based

makes sense. I wonder how the grinding will work and how will enemies re-spawn. maybe there will be a timer. have they said something about this in TGS? don't know japanese.

Certain areas outside of story areas will have respawning enemies. Reactor guards for example don't respawn.

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