Military shooter

Because it looks fucking ugly.

Stop playing military recruitment shit games. The only shooters you should be playing are ones that are very much fantasy/sci-fi based and as far removed from reality as possible.

it was plastic shit

Nice catch dude, are you going to eat it or hang it on the wall?

ARMA is absolutely lousy with cheats

What game does it best? CS did it best "fundamentally" but what else is there that isn't just sides/teams (Insurgency, CoD, CS etc)?

The FAMAS looks fucking ugly but the french seem to love it

Why haven't you taken the Rainbowpill yet? Thank me later, famiglia

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There is only one (single player) military shooter. And it's name? Heh. You'll never know.

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this

Any games besides CS that lets you play as a terrorist?

Lobby $

The fuck are you doing playing in public servers lmao? Stop being an autist and join a group.

I think it was simply too expensive of a project as a whole, and not a big difference anyways. It was cheaper to just refurbish the current arsenal that we already had.

Half Life 2

we need more games with only handguns
handguns are kino

>stop being an autist and become a bigger autist

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Vietcong

tasked with making a modular all purpose rifle
>squad auto weapon
they couldnt make it belt fed
>ordinance
the underslung grenade launcher was literally heavier than the m320gl
>ranged performance
the scope required a battery and had an active life of a couple hours at most, adding more made it more heavy than the rifle it was trying to replace
not to mention the thing overheated like crazy and would literally fucking melt the handguard, the one place thats not supposed to melt

TakeDown: Red Sabre.

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Rising Storm 2 got pretty good after a few months. You can play as Viet Cong and kill Americans if that's what gets your rocks off. It's asymmetrical, so you can lay mines/traps and wait for the GI to get maimed

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What else are you suppose to play? A french soldier wielding a white flag?

>Squad got a Canadian Forces update

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Because it's a glorified overwatch clone. It has nothing to do with tactical or military shooters other than visual aesthetic

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>overwatch clone

Retard.
Siege is CSGO with hero units.

God you’re good
Here let me blow your cock

Siege is a glorified Overwatch clone. Even CSGO is more tactical and requires more braincells than Siege

> Female special operations.
Is this game a comedy?

low-TTK shooters are dogshit
ironsights shooters are dogshit
"automatic hitscan weapons" shooters are dogshit

was cool in Metal Gear Acid
>Causes a random status ailment on hit, resulting from bleeding, to burn, etc

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Go back to fortnite, child.

t. never played any of the three games mentioned

fortnite is also dogshit

I, for one, really like the fish gun

>durrr i should be able to dodge bullets HURRRR
>durrr im bad so i should survive 40 bullets to the chest

High-TTK shooters are objectively, non-arguably higher skill than low-TTK shooters.

When one bullet kills, an inferior player can often randomly kill a superior player with a stray shot. When 10 bullets kill, the player with better aim and positioning and strategy will usually win.

Keep playing your lootbox ridden cashgrabbing glorified Overwatch clone and coping

5v5 with high lethality and site/defuse gameplay wrapped in a modern warfare skin.
It's legit CSGO but with abilities and destructible environments.
If you think having characters/abilities is enough to make a game a overwatch clone but pay no attention to the actual gameplay then you might have been starved of oxygen at birth

What do you play?

I think it look great
But we're replacing it with the HK416 anyway

>Make a CoD game actually interesting by setting it during the Cold War with all kinds of interesting weapons and gadgets
>Make 3 sequels to this game with generic "futuristic" plinky plonky Mattel-designed guns and tons of stupid nigger shit like dude weed lmao weapon skins

I remember playing MW2 back in high school and thinking "well at least it can't get any worse than this retarded shit." How naive I was.

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> It's a hero shooter, but you defend an object unlike any other hero shooter, so, it's CSGO.

thats because they're french

It's ok user, one day you might actually convince someone you know what you're talking about.
Keep trying, you might just make it one day.

It is now.

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Niggers look ugly but the French seem to love them too.

what a hideous fucking weapon. what are they trying to do make the enemy army laugh themselves to death?

Jesus fucking christ what a horrible design.

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> Not overwatch, btw.
> realistic tactical shooter, btw.

looks like absolute shit, delete this

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> Tfw you will never play as the spetsnaz iron brotherhood killing navy seals with a 552SD in the Alaskan snow online and hearing that sexy voice say "terrorists win" ever again.

Why even live, lads?

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I don't know what the fuck happened, the original operators and some of the year 1's were pretty alright normal tacticool shit. Now the designs are just fucking retarded shit from head to toe.

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Is tarkov a game yet?

>modern military shooter
>play as marines
>standard kit doesnt include crayons to eat
This is bullshit, it's like they don't care about realism at all

Redditsix siege?

>shitbird telling me to cope
Yeah, you haven't played Siege

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Women got involved.

Haven't played this wipe. Waiting on 0.12. Good lord I hope they fix the horrendous task system they have now. It's getting fucking silly at this point.

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAHA

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Insurgency, Squad, PR for literal durkhas.
Would you consider playing a glow nig, or a foreign mercenary as another man's terrorist?
Then consider Just cause, GR Wildlands, the older Mercenary games.

She looks like she gets taken captive and raped by muslims after a failed hostage rescue attempt

>arma
>join a co op group
>make your own missions

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Not yet.

Will the new modern warfare be good, boys?

Kotaku hates it, which is a good sign

oh ok thanks mang

Why try when idiots still buy them.

>OP asks for a game that '''mixes it up''' where you don't play as the US or the USMC
>get mad Siege mixes it up

Because trying, is half the battle.

>will CoD be good
no and even if it was Activision will find a way to ruin it still

I'm more interested in what the fuck they think her "armor" is supposed to be. Same with this one. It looks like they get their inspiration from vague memories of knockoff GI Joe figures they saw Ashens review once.

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There's a difference between mixing it up and throwing Skittles into a blender.

None they are all shit
except for crysis

The sad state of things mate :(

How would you do a Korean war game, Yea Forums?

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Just iron sights and a flash hider for me dudes

Reskin Rising Storm and ship it.

Battlefield with F86s and MiG15s. Maybe very early helicopters too

Just play Insurgency or Squad for multiplayer or go back and play classics like R63 or SWAT3/4.

Eh, looks like Chinese police riot armor with bits taken off

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>Game has rifles in it.
>Ejection port is inside.
>Keep getting slapped in the face with spent cartridges.

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What would a real current military shooter be like?

F-86 vs MiG-15 simulator with VR. Nothing interesting happened on the ground.

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What the FUCK is this

any game where you play as the US military

Why is AR15 literally the perfect battle rifle?

>rela life
>90% of military conflicts directly and indirectly caused by US
>probably 90% of the times they send in marines

Target Acquisition.

>Press A to open your Dear John letter
>do a qte to determine your alimony payment
>game ends with the player character crying in a roach infested studio apartment after being discharged and then having to run to the bus stop to get to his fast food job because his ex wife took the mustang he bought with his signing bonus

Drugs in an image.

fps has been boring as fuck since duke3d. worst genre in all of gaming

It's not a battle rifle.

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That could be anything this side of 40 years

>Tacticool G3

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>food and candy analogy

Play Tarkov FAG NIG

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haha long boi

>AR15
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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They said with patch .12 that grass will render out to 200m with no fps hit. Can you believe that shit?!!!!

It isn't, but everyone knows how to shoot one, so they're the best with it.

Medal of Honor (2010) got flak for this
The enemy team was supposed to be named Taliban but Americans got angry so they changed them to Opposing Force
>"Most of us having been doing this since we were 7 – if someone's the cop, someone's gotta be the robber, someone's gotta be the pirate and someone's gotta be the alien", Amanda Taggart, senior PR manager for EA, told AOL News. "In Medal of Honor multiplayer, someone's gotta be the Taliban."
based EA for once

>play this unfinished buggy mess

Yeah nah, give it a few more years.

Because the cavemen that play those games just WANT to give their money for the same shit over and over.

Alright, try this then. "Mixing it up" by throwing in a bunch of retarded, ugly as sin character designs is like saying you have big tits and it's because you're a hamplanet.

>Kike copy of an AK

Fucking kek, couldn't even make a better AK than the stupid Finns lmao

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Fortnite has alot of players too, all retarder zoomers just like Siege

Update when?

It's not Rainbow Six you ABSOLUTE RETARD

They get paid by the Department of Defense. Unironically. The DoD funds development companies and movie studios if they involve the US military and display them in a positive light.

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Really wish they had done the Ro2/RS1 situation here. Just slap together some easy breezy Lebanon or Afghanistan (less good because it'd be pretty much just slavshit) or Korea or whatever.

If a game ever does the America Army thing where you always play as BLUFOR in your perspective and the enemy team always sees you as OPFOR I refuse to play it. I'm okay with renaming them to Opfor and having them look and sound and talk like the insurgents, but fuck not getting to play as them.

It was good.

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I don't know if any other game has done that actually.

I just couldn't get into RS2 like I did with RO2/RS1. I don't know why.

Is Arma 3 good without the DLC? It' currently some 9,50€ on Steam

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Totally different types of warfare.

>Is Arma 3 good without the DLC?

Yes.

>Is Arma 3 good without the mods?

No.

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I haven't been able to find a single server on Arma3 that isn't a janky fucking mess. Even when I was part of a unit that rented their own private server it ran like fucking garbage.

The AA thing is actually a good thing in my opinion.
It would solve the problem that Tom Clancy games face at least (Tom Clancy didn't want terrorists to be playable in any of his games).

>want to play the russians in arma 3 with the RHS mod
>none of the fucking uniforms have gloves for some reason
>no one's modded in gloves for their uniforms yet
>too retarded to do it myself

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it's weapon in spanish

They don't play the same really.

youtube.com/watch?v=wmTf1VhAn-o

Post best military shooter themes

It’s not a battle rifle, nor is it perfect. But it does the job, it’s very cheap, and it’s fairly “modular” (if you have all of the proprietary tools.)

arma 2 operation arrowhead blew arma 3 out of the water
i loved the fuck out of 2 and OA but i fucking hate 3
dont ask me to list the long list of reasons, ive already done it multiple times in the past

>Get into making my own mods back in Arma 2
>Realize how fucking retarded most mod makers actually are

The problem isn't that making mods is hard or that you have to be smart to do it, the problem is that most people are fucking lazy and don't care.

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Don't worry, I agree with you completely. I miss the fuck out of OA.

Well OA came in at the end of A2 so it had a lot to build on from the community. A3's near-future setting just isn't interesting.

I want a shooter game that takes place in spain during WW2.

Didn't Day Of Defeat have Spain maps?

youtube.com/watch?v=ZiSTywA6fHY

Quality taste user. I’d shoot hooks with you in the jungle any day.

No, it had a lot of Italian maps.

BO1 had the best weapons of any CoD. Incidentally it was the last one I played.

>no canted sights
cringe

While the Spanish Civil War was interesting from a historical perspective I don't know how unique it could be from a gameplay perspective.

i want a 90s socom game with mgsv controls

I stuck it out for MW3 before calling it quits. I couldn't be less interested in the future settings it got into after that.

>best weapons of any CoD
>tons of filler smgs and 3 lmgs that no one used

Not very buggy anymore. Just stuttery for some people, and the netcode needs some work.

I guarantee they will nerf those in the next patch.

October 8th

If the M4 carbine is so good, why haven't they made the M5 carbine?

It's stuttery for everyone and if you say ot doesn't stutter for you then you're a dirty liar.

Don't get ny hopes up.

The original operators had dumb shit like pocket nuclear generators lad.

Because it's so good they don't need a new one, duh.

they were cool weapons that hadn't been in a game before, fuck off if you just want the same old shit/overdesigned futuristic garbage.
fuk u actually made me want to pirate BO1 and play the campaign again.

It does stutter for me sometimes but not very often. It honestly depends on your setup I feel. People get major stuttering very frequently while others dont.

First of all, wat? And second of all I'm taking about their design, not their mandatory contrived hero power I mean gadget.

the thing is the m4 and all are just really great urban guns, but they break down and jam quite easily. They are modular and are quite nice, but if you use it outside of a nice clean sterile urban environment it just fucking eats shit.

Medal of Honor
>That CAS mission

We need more milshooters where you play as some underdog nation being invaded. Go the valkyria chronicles route.

It'd also give a good opportunity to move up from trashy weapons to captured enemy weapons and maybe foreign aid or whatever. Starting and ending with the same M4's is lame.

Yes, it is. Stop getting emotional over facts & logic, freak. Go back to Takedown Red Sabre

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If it is hardware based then it doesn't work in any kind of logical way. People with very good rigs still get horrendous stutter and it's well documented at this point. I just hope they fix it because a smooth Tarkov gameplay experience would be enough to make me overlook the nightmarish tasks and retarded loot system they currently have.

Because it faced the same problem that they found out the G36 had a few years ago. It had a tendency to melt with sustained automatic fire.

Dumb Fudd.

Lol fuck off boomer.

Play Project Reality and play as the Brits or Poles or Germans or MEC or ISIS or Russians or etc etc

nobody has the balls to make a gritty realistic political shooter and it makes me sad.

Play Operation Downfall

keep in mind that every character basically has the exact same proportions and hitboxes

Siege came before Overwatch, you stupid fuck

One of my favourite memories is playing as I think Chechnyan Insurgents on Project Reality, and ambushing a convoy of Russian soldiers with a bunch of random people. I ended up dying alone and hiding in a castle when their backup arrived.

>Still no game where you play as a Chad Force Pararescueman

>Still no game where you play as African paratroopers in the 1980's

>they break and jam easily
rofl, you're literally clueless.
youtube.com/watch?v=LyXndCxn9K4

You can even play as the africans.

semper fi cunt

What the fuck are you talking about? You sure you're not getting mixed up with Black Ops 4? Because you're describing one of the specialists in that exactly.

>machinegunning hordes of chinese commies
>not interesting

>just another reskinned marines
Wooow, so original.

>tfw gramps got to kill commie chinks and get paid for it

What a job.

MILSIMFAGS OF Yea Forums

What is your favorite role?
Frontline infantry? APC driver? Transport chopper pilot? CAS? Squad leader? NCO? What do you love to do and why?

What armaments do Canadians use? Is it also an M4?

I like to be the guy that sneaks into the enemy base and plants bombs on things.

>Day of Infamy
>Play as German's defending Normandy
>you can actually win the scenario

This is good game design.

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ar platform

DM reporting in. The MK14 EBR and SVD are usually my raifus.

Cook.

m-medic

Sailor

C7 and C8. Canadian rebrands of the M16 and M4 respectively

I got into RS2 but I miss RS1 so fucking bad, I would kill to go back to it and play it on those beautiful custom maps, sugarloaf and the other massive jungle custom map (pic related), but the lvl99 trannies rarely played those and kept kobura guadalcanal Hanto on loop 24/7 and then turn on custom maps like a few hours on the weekend.

I still miss it so fucking bad. I want to go back. I want to crawl in those dark, wet muddy bushes in Otori Shima as a Jap soldier, shooting GI's in the head from between the leaves and Banzai charging.

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Fucking Canadians just gotta be special snowflakes. Is it even an improvement?

Good news soon you'll be getting sick of the M27 instead because the Marines are fucking retarded.

The C7A2 and C8 are basically cold weather versions of the M16/M4, yes. They do get a unique APC and a bolt-action sniper which fires ultra-based .338 Lapua Magnum though.

I'm the guy who stays on the Carrier and mans the Phalanx.

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Yeah, the barrel is cold forged I'm pretty sure, so I think it's slightly more accurate. What's with your grudge against Canadians, friend?

>germany
>win anything
So it is a fantasy game?

lol

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tank commander

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Based

Is that still valid? Thought a brit or an aussie took the title

anyome who gets Rising storm 2 should put their Grapics down to the lowest settings possible
if you don't you are gimping yourself since anyone who remotely takes the game seriously does the same thing,
like on higher settings you may think you are hiding in a bush, but to someone playing on the toaster settings there is high chance that bush won't be there

do people actually believe this trash? sniper rifles don't even have scopes that scale that far. and there's literally no way they could see something that far without super optics + confirm weather it was a kill or not. even with x16 optics the targets would be microscopic black dots.

the ar15 is simply too hard to beat.

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jesus

Useless shit. People just use ATGM's to kill entire platoons from 6km.

This is always the dumbest fucking argument. It’s shifts the “””””skill””””” from being better at pointing and clicking to being better at not being a dumbass and walking into an ambush or trap / awareness of what’s around you / using cover / tactics. Even in a high TTK game it comes down to these if the two players are equally “”””””skilled”””””” at pointing and clicking. Alternatively, in a high ttk game if one player is more “”””””skilled”””””” at pointing and clicking then they can use that as a crutch to make up for doing dumbass things or being bad at the above “”””””skills””””””.

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you're already playing fucking ARMA, that's pretty autismo. You may as well venture into the deep end of the pool if you're already wet

Spoken like 5th place.

even 2,3 km for a sniper rifle hit on a human bean is shit you will literally never sell to me. it's difficult to reproduce this kind of stuff on sitting targets, let alone an enemy soldier.

?

>muh CoD

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>set up great ambush
>get 5-6 free shots on an enemy
>you now have a huge advantage in the battle
>you will likely win unless you're an absolute shitter vs some godlike tryhard

I want to CAS in PR but I suck at effectively utilizing an A-10. I can fly it pretty well but actually consistently attacking targets let alone ones that get marked or lazed and they expect me to go and fuck it up immediately, the only thing that ends up getting fucked up is me. I wish I could git gud with the brrrrrt.

>It’s shifts the “””””skill””””” from being better at pointing and clicking to (...)
Let's start right here: no, it doesn't "shift" anything. It simply removes skill from one part of the game (aiming, dodging, etc - core FPS gameplay.) That skill cap doesn't end up anywhere else, it just goes away. The game becomes more casual.

>to being better at not being a dumbass and walking into an ambush or trap / awareness of what’s around you / using cover / tactics.
In games with a high TTK this kind of gameplay is also present, so I am not sure why you are implying it's exclusive to low-TTK casual inronsights/console shooters. Please watch this video and note the number of times one player jockeys for a position, hides to catch his enemy unaware, etc: youtube.com/watch?v=XdkDjsBiO58

>Even in a high TTK game it comes down to these if the two players are equally “”””””skilled”””””” at pointing and clicking. Alternatively, in a high ttk game if one player is more “”””””skilled”””””” at pointing and clicking then they can use that as a crutch to make up for doing dumbass things or being bad at the above “”””””skills””””””.

I am not sure why you keep scare quoting "skilled" here as if the must fundamental FPS skills (aiming, leading projectiles, dodging, moving, etc.) are not real. Perhaps you do not consider them to be legitimate skills because you are incapable of them, yet you're fully capable of sitting at a corner with an automatic 1-hit hitscan weapon, waiting for a player to produce an audio cue so you can brainlessly 1hit them - which is the standard gameplay loop in casual ironsights console shooters.

Oh, alright, just remove the hard counter to any gadget-centric operator because your disbelief couldn't be suspended for 4 fucking seconds

Fuck amerimutts

This will never, EVER be you, console ironsights FPS faggots.

youtube.com/watch?v=a-lbS7-odJ4

Glad FPSes evolved beyond that archaic shit. No matter how much you seethe, that ADS-less design you love isn't coming back

>ARMA
>PR
>SQUAD
>console

You know Overwatch was the largest FPS in a decade, right? LOL.

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Be honest here, would overwatch even be a quarter as popular without the SFM/blender porn?

Where's Project Reality?

Seething arena FPS cuck, go back to your dead games

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>less combined players than TF2

Oof... yikes.

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*gauntlets the fuck out of you*
*pisses on your corpse*

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>casual ironsights console shooters

wtf are you even blithering about?

Ironsights are a staple of PC games. Most casual console games don't do ironsights. You're also blathering about "dodging" projectiles in a fucking realistic military shooter thread.

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You know PUBG was miles above that at one point?

What does that even mean. As long as you have dedicated communities that can fill a server then that'll beat any garbage mainstream shit.

>insurgency
>milsim

The reason casuals love these games so much is because you can sit still in a bush for the entire game and you're guaranteed to get one kill

It's no-risk no-skill guaranteed gratification, the kind that inferior humans crave

'
ok, civies

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>less combined players than Candycrush

Oof... yikes.

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No it wasn't, at its peak PUBG was #3 in Asian netcafe statistics while Overwatch was a firm #1

Additionally, Overwatch had a much larger western audience than PUBG, proportionally speaking

TF2 is a zoomer trash like fortnite.

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>casuals love these games so much is because you can sit still in a bush for the entire game and you're guaranteed to get one kill

You're really bad at making an argument.

Hello, bush sitting casualfag

You're simply an idiot. No casual is going to sit in a bush for 10-40 mins just to get one kill.

Alt-tabbed while waiting for your one kill per game, casualfag? Don't wait too long, someone might walk past you

>that one autistic boomer who shits up every FPS-related thread screaming about people playing games where you don't fly around at mach 5 with laser weapons

>everyone who disagrees with me is one person
First week?

>nothing can beat arma up to this day
Feels good.

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1. Use your Microphone!
2. Join a Squad!
3. DO NOT LONEWOLF - Ever! If your Squadleader doesn't lead his squad: Report him ("!r yourmessage" in text chat)
4. DO NOT take any vehicle without permission. Do not abandon assets in the field.
4. Don't assume anything (especially vehicles) works like in a normal FPS shooter! Ask first!
5. There are no name-tags! You need to differentiate friend and foe by their uniform. Use your map if you're not sure!
6. Press 8 for a bandage that can heal you a bit if you are wounded - anything else: Go see your squad's medic.
7. Learn about the terminology of PR here.
8. If a heavy vehicle of your team gets destroyed, it only respawns 10 - 20 minutes later (depending on the asset).
9. If you get shot, your team looses one ticket. If you go dead, your team looses another ticket. Vehicles cost tickets as well. Loosing a flag costs your team 30 tickets. So don't give up too fast and wait for a medic.
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All servers enforce an 'Asset Rule'. This means that you cannot just take any vehicle on the battlefield and operate it as you wish. If you want to drive Armor, you have to join the Tank Squad for example. If you want to fly Close-Air Support, you have to be in the CAS Squad and so on.

NEW PLAYERS SHOULD NOT DO SPECIALISED ROLES UNTIL THEY ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE GAME - Most Servers will remove players from their position if they are not capable of fullfilling their role in an asset properly.

As a new player, we recommend that you join an Infantry Squad first and foremost to learn the basics of the game. Make sure your microphone and mumble is setup and tell your Squadleader that you are new.

As a guideline: Don't take any vehicle without consulting with your squadleader first. Do not take any heavy vehicle without being in the appropriate squad. Do not operate specialised vehicles alone. Do not use Logistics vehicles as personal transport. Do not operate transport vehicles (jeeps, trucks) with lots of seats on your own - instead, help transport people to the frontlines.

>do not do anything without permission
>do not even think of having fun
Nice game.

because modern weaponry is all homogenized tacticool shit covered in rails anyway

to get true aesthetic you have to go back

11. Absolutely no racism!

Infantry Squads:
One issue I see is that people don't realise how important it is to get out of base and to the core contested flags as soon as possible. Don't take trucks or apcs for transport when trans choppers are up. Don't wait around and cap the first flag when your armor squads will do that anyway, don't sit around in main drilling your squad in how to walk in the perfect column formation so you can all die in a nice well disciplined way. 5 minutes from the start you need to be actually doing something useful like defending / attacking a flag cap or building fobs.
During the game if you are not in a contested flag cap, building fobs, killing their fobs or moving to the next flag then you are being useless 99% of the time, don't be useless.

Ditch the sniper kit.
In the years of playing PR, I have never once came across a situation where I thought "man, I'm glad that guy in my squad had a sniper kit". The kit has a place in the game, not in my squad though. If someone has a hard on for long range shots, a marksman is a better choice for a squad in my opinion.

Run a good trans squad.
Despite popular belief, a "good" trans squad doesn't mean that you can fly across Muttrah upside down, or land on a 80 degree angle. It means to have a good understanding on where you troops are, and getting them crates. A lot of times you will see trans sit on their pads not doing anything, its my belief that if you have a crate, you should drop it off. Crates aren't just used for building fobs, they are a good resource for getting kits and refilling vital assets like HAT/LAT kits. On a typical night, prWARs will run trans with Sprint squad leading. He gets fobs up fast and has a really good idea of what the team needs in terms of assets. I have seen our team win more form having a good trans squad than from any other factor.

Found the casual
If you can't use a tank, don't fucking waste it and ruin the entire game for everyone else because you want to "have fun" selfish bastard. Do you even know what teamwork means?

Die already, boomer

"realistic" games are never even played realistically
it always ends up being, the optimal way to play is to spam grenade launchers and rockets and shit
so it's exactly like unrealistic games, except lower quality because it's trying to be realistic

Driving and gunning in IFVs
Less pressure than MBTs and infantry love you if you give them rides.

it only existed because we were determined to not let the OICW be a complete waste (this was the gun portion of it, the grenade launcher became its own separate system that the army also tested and never used)

and then, it did take off, just not in the US. Malaysia has a boner for it for some reason

I've never seen grenade or rocket spam in Arma, PR, or Squad. Are you sure you're thinking of realistic FPS and not just BF3 or some shit?

What milsims has mai raifu?

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I see grenade/rocket spam every single time I play and of those three games you mentioned.

Literally the only game I can think of with an AUG is CS.

Arma

We need a milsim game set in the Ace Combat universe.

PUBG, Arma with mods.

wow... look at all those strong, tough looking women... they really can do anything just as good as we can...

based.
>tfw you will never provide naval gun support for ground forces in WW2 online ever again

RS2 is completely soulless
youtube.com/watch?v=ldNSMnEeKio
youtube.com/watch?v=J25_v3YXh34

The only problem i have with Red orchestra 2 is the tank shells exploding by touching a tiny pixel of a tree, everything else is ok but i wish they rebalance the whole squad mechanics like they did in RS2.

t. noguns

I wish i could go back in time and play them during their prime.

Don't the majority of military shooters usually have you play as the british, because they had soldiers in pretty much every major battle of both world wars? The only major exception being the pacific campaign of WWII.

I mean, even the modern warfare games have you playing as brits.

The AI of Crysis is fuckin dumb shit moron retardation

In battle of the Falkland islands you play as the brits
.

What other game has this gun besides Killzone

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Literally WHEN!?

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They won against brazil, and it become a bigger meme than the entire nazi shit

Try 1944

Insurgency Sandstorm

I love machineguns but they tend to be bad in games.

Why the fuck do Ausfags use the fucking Steyr EF88 instead of the M4 carbines. Asking as an Ausfag.

>implying I'm going to watch that video

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i have learned that "realistic" shooters are not trying to be realistic, they are basically just trying to be casual
for example, when you use a sniper in a modern "realistic" shooter, your scope will fly all over the place while you're prone on a level surface with a bipod deployed. i know this is not realistic, because i own hunting rifles. i can brace my gun against a tree while fucking standing and i don't have the chevron flying all over the place like i'm epileptic. let alone prone

there is this big focus on making it harder for good players to kill bad players

Why wouldn't you want to play as the good guys ?

Spec-ops. I like to fold in with frontline infantry and lead them to victory and disrupt shit behind enemy lines when they all eventually get killed off leaving only me alive.

It was a jewish subversion of a true weapon upgrade, much like the modern F-35 scam or older M1126 Stryker. Thankfully investing in a multibillion dollar roadmap for the XM8 failed because even the military didn't see a realistic improvement on performance worth the cost.

Australians want to produce their weapons in their own country. Colt didn't give them a license to produce the M16A2, so they got a license from Steyr to make instead F88 variants instead.

Malvinas

youtube.com/watch?v=2m6PPBFGu3s

For me it's Uru

>obey some retard that orders you to walk through the empty field for 20 minutes instead of having fun yourself
Amazing game design.

yep, they don't make 'em like this anymore.
youtube.com/watch?v=G3sJC1ydpUs

too bad 90% of those players are playing arma life/wasteland/king of the hill

Americans flat out won't buy the game if the US isn't in it.

>Missed out on Modern Warfare where you primarily played SAS

meanwhile in squad
>join game with some friends
>only me an one other actually play the game on a regular basis
>everyone else wants to do mortars
>say ok
>take a logistics truck from the team to build our mortars, defenses, and bring ammo
>spend whole game chilling in the back blowing shit up
>occasionally fight off some people who try to silence us
>meanwhile in squad lead chat people are telling me to fucking help them and stop using the logistics truck
>tell them to fuck off
>now the rest of the team is complaining in text chat
>ignore them
>we lose
>only killed like 3 people with the mortars
>still had fun
>not banned for some gay rule breaking shit

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RS2 feels so arcadey compared to RS1.

fudd noguns. stay in europe/australia

Nice bait

Chopper-pilot
Don't matter what bird
Just put me in the cockpit and I'll do my job

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Arma

Arma

youtube.com/watch?v=cwgRoELH6qE

Name some good ones.

i wish socom wasn't a dead series

Imagine being this much of a genetic dead end.

I liked the look of this gun. Don't get why so many people hate it.

Anti-tank, especially for modern AT weapons. It's kinda for a dumb reason though the process for readying a LAW or AT-4 or whatever is super satisfying to me

>Muh Arma
>Most shitters use 3rd person

>playing on servers that allow 3rd person
It's your fault for playing with casuals

>Not playing the kino that'll be READY OR NOT
youtube.com/watch?v=IjscQ0HtaCg

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Please christ let it be good. SWAT 4 is like my 2nd favorite FPS.

I'd be interested in a game like CoD but from a Chinese/PLA perspective.

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Have you seen the leaks? It looks like a cardboard copy of swat4.

Military themed survival simulator set in north korea in the winter

They call it the forgotten war for a reason and part of it was how terrible the conditions were for everyone who took part in it

>F-35 scam
retard

Someone post the picture of the fishing boat the with XM8's beautifully jumping and swimming in the water.

The chinks made a bunch of propaganda CoD clones.
No one talks about them because they're all in Chinese and they look really shitty and unfun (like most Asian shooter games).

>*duct tapes the "stealth" coating*
>yep, nothing to see here, taxpayer

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intentionally """failed""" maybe

They're duct taping over the panel lines, dummy.

>No one talks about them because they're all in Chinese and they look really shitty and unfun (like most Asian shooter games).
That's a shame, I'd like to see a high quality one. Ironically I guess you'd have to get a western developer to make it.

Here's your new infantry service rifle bro

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retard

what game? looks comfy

Steel Armor Blazes of War

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maybe you should duct tape a gun to your head and pull the trigger

t. lockheed shill

I hope so as well, the gameplay so far seems to show it being a SWAT Spiritual Successor, so I hope so too.

stay mad nerd
daily reminder by 2030 there will be more F-35s in service than all post Soviet Flanker derivatives

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>lockheed shill happy that all taxpayers shekels went on his useless shit instead of actual planes
ebin

The F-35 is an actual plane. I went to MCAS Miramar and saw it fly with my own eyes.

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>he didn't hear about the carpet bombing

I like it, don't understand the hate at all.

Useless scam programme.

Seethe

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Also ugly as hell.

What other games explore the horrors of war that aren't Spec Ops?

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Arma 2 original campaign.

you know the F-35 is an export plane, right? it got shit on by two-generations-old planes in simulated dogfights. the f-15 had a nearly perfect kill ratio against it

f-22 is still the US' premier stealth fighter, and that's why they won't be exporting it for another decade

>it got shit on by two-generations-old planes in simulated dogfights.
no
>the f-15 had a nearly perfect kill ratio against it
Other way around. F-35's scored a 20-1 kill ratio against legacy aircraft at the last Red Flag excercise.
theaviationist.com/2019/02/16/the-first-reports-of-how-the-f-35-strutted-its-stuff-in-dogfights-against-aggressors-at-red-flag-are-starting-to-emerge/
>f-22 is still the US' premier stealth fighter, and that's why they won't be exporting it for another decade
They are never being exported, ever. Do you know why? Because the fucking factory line shut down in 2011. There will be no more Raptors produced ever. This is it, the F-35 is going to be the sole 5th gen export plane for the US.

haha its dead now

Airgods rule over mudpeasants. Happens in every combined arms game.

>no
Yes.
thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/07/10/most-advanced-us-jet-easily-outmatched
businessinsider.com/f-35-vs-f-15-dogfights-2018-3
nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/air-force-pilot-explains-how-f-15-can-beat-f-35-mock-battle-76166

>Other way around. F-35's scored a 20-1 kill ratio against legacy aircraft at the last Red Flag excercise.
That is an amazing lie you've just formulated, because F-35 didn't fight any legacy USAF aircraft at Red Flag.

I know I'm late but I need sauce

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businessinsider.com/f-35-could-not-dogfight-typhoon-su-35-2016-8
>In a recent interview with Business Insider, Justin Bronk, a research fellow specializing in combat airpower at the Royal United Services Institute, dropped a bombshell about the US's $1 trillion F-35 program: "The F-35 cannot outdogfight a Typhoon (or a Su-35), never in a million years."

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Cool fortnite character

What's would the f-35 be used for that can't already be done by the other aircraft?

Selling to gullible eurobloc countries

Then in any actual war they get shit on by F-22s

>That is an amazing lie you've just formulated, because F-35 didn't fight any legacy USAF aircraft at Red Flag.
USAF Agressor squadrons are all legacy aircraft (F-16C, F-15C).

That's a good move when its time to take over the Eurozone.

Penetrating enemy AD networks without getting lit the fuck up. Transmitting targeting data to other combat assets in theatre. Increased situational awareness through EODAS compared to previous fighters.

the reports of F-35s getting destroyed in dogfights by four-decade-old f-15s and f-16s were so devastating to the F-35 program's marketing that they started setting up simulations where the F-35 gets F-22 escorts and is essentially fed target locks and the F-22s are chaff for the F-35 to get its KD:R padded

F-22's did not have the software necessary to "feed" target locks to F-35's until this year.
F-22's have inferior sensors to the F-35 too.

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>F-22's did not have the software necessary to "feed" target locks to F-35's until this year.
it has always had the option, it just doesn't utilize it in typical war doctrine because any missile with anti-radiation would be able to kill it. it does use it in these new fraudulent marketing simulations designed to repair the destroyed reputation of the F-35 so it can be pawned off to retards seeking mythical USA war technology

the F-35 would not even be deployed for air-to-air fights in an actual war, it would frankly be mincemeat against anything in the air today

>make challenging scenarios to improve new pilots on new airframes
>obviously include defensive scenarios
>news report that trainees were shot down by their instructors during training and the fault is the aircraft
Vatnick propaganda loves these stories.

i also find it hilarious when F-35aboos say that the F-35 has "epic stealth properties". the stealth index of the F-22 is significantly lower, you should know that just from looking at the engine nacelles of the two planes

>playing as onions US "military"
>not playing as chad UK SAS

These people actually do real shit, not just sit on an aircraft carrier controlling a drone with their xbox controller.

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>it has always had the option,
No.
>to retards seeking mythical USA war technology
Is this not what you are doing right now by claiming the Raptor is still the number one fighter jet in the world?
No one has claimed it as the stealthiest fighter jet in the world. Just that it is stealthy, which is 10x better than the literal flying rust bucket known as the Su-57.

here is a fun F-22 fact: they tested it with round (unstealthy) nacelles and it had a higher thrust:weight than the F-15 in that configuration. the box nacelles reduce the thrust of the plane by 22%. even in the stealthy box-nacelle configuration the plane still smokes the F-35 in t:w even with a full munitions load

it's just a far, far more developed plane. internal munitions bay is another example

You'd get the same results by giving the new electronic suits on old frames.
I get that they want a improvement, but the cost barely justifies the product.

>losing against the oldest models
>b-but it was just for the training purposes I swear!
Comedy gold.

>hey tested it with round (unstealthy) nacelles and it had a higher thrust:weight than the F-15 in that configuration.
Provide a source, please.
>internal munitions bay is another example
The F-22 is limited to Sidewinders, AMRAAMs, and SDBs/JDAMs. The F-35 is capable of carrying a far wider variety of munitions. Furthermore, the F-22 does not have the capacity to self designate targets, unlike the F-35.
No, you would not.

the f-35 is not for domestic use, all of the domestic use is just to prop the product up and make it look attractive to eurosaps ("see, we're using, it's good honest")

here you go world-defense.com/threads/thrust-to-weight-ratios-of-all-fighter-planes.1316/
second result on google

>No, you would not.
Yes you can user. Its just hardware, as long as the frame can mount and power it. There would barely be any difference.

it's worth saying btw that the US probably has far more advanced air superiority devices than even the F-22, that are non-public. things like scramdrones or rocketdrones

youtube.com/watch?v=KBMU6l6GsdM

That's an exoatmospheric anti-ballistic missile warhead, illiterate retard.

funniest shit about that video is the booster pulsing means it's liquid fuel
it's perfectly hovering with a gallon of kerosene sloshing around chaotically inside

>the f-35 is not for domestic use
The largest orders for the F-35 are for the USAF, USN, and USMC (3000+).
Honestly, why are you even posting such brazen bullshit?
>source: random forum post
???
A legacy airframe is limited by the simple fact that it wasn't built with stealth in mind. This renders it far easier to detect and destroy. Furthermore, legacy airframes such as the Hornet/Super Hornet have a smaller internal fuel tank compared to the F-35, which means it must carry drop tanks or must make in flight refueling stops, rendering it more vulnerable to disruption.

>non-public
it's weird that you accused me of being illiterate when perfectly ordinary english was too hard for you. i guess projection is a real phenomenon

...why is banning toxic shit bad? Go back to /pol/

kill yourself, jew

That's a public and open data, illiterate retard.

>477938748
you're actually ESL aren't you. holy shit lmao
i bet you're a spic who looks up to the US

>toxic
All retarded zoomers who keep using this word incorrectly need to be hanged on the streets.

trap sprung :^)

lmao your proof is that some retard on a forum postulated that the raptor might have had better t/w ratio if it had circular nozzles, his numbers sourced from a hodgepodge of wiki articles and russian defence forums? shut the fuck up, nigger.

quora.com/Why-does-the-F-22-have-different-exhaust-nozzles-and-what-are-the-benefits

educate yourself on what box nacelles are and why only the most expensive & highly developed stealth fighter programs use them

>1.18 - F-22 (T/W = 1.37 with Round nozzles)
LMAAAO. That's what retarded stealth meme does to good planes.

stealth is actually so good in air to air doctrine though. you will never outrun a missile once it has a lock, so preventing a lock is much more valuable

i know what 2d TVC nozzles are you slavic monkey, i'm just laughing at how much bullshit you are pulling from your HIV infected butthole.
F35 wins again!

>MILSIMFAGS OF Yea Forums

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you know most f-35 variants don't even have a 1:1 thrust:weight ratio, even with round nacelle, even while 100% naked, right?
the box nacelle f-22 with full munitions load has 10-15% higher thrust:weight
looks like f35 loses again, just like in sims

>NIGGERS OF Yea Forums

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Not for the heat signature when you "stealth" coating glows like a fucking christmas tree.

not sure what you are talking about, but i doubt you considered some thermal characteristics that lockheed didn't

popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a25605878/air-force-pca-fighter-jet-cost/
>$300m unit cost for next-gen f-22 replacement
OH NO NO NO JINPINGBROS

oh no, this dude definitely knows what hes talking about, especially since he constantly misuses the term "nacelle" to refer to the nozzles on an aircraft and tries to claim that the raptor can carry more weapons than the f-35.
top notch avgeek stuff right there, totally not textbook vodkanigger disinfo.

>OF Yea Forums

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>Yea Forumseddit

"stealth" coating sucks at dissipating heat and all 5th gen planes glow bright as fuck in flir. Good luck dissipating heat with flat nozzle when you whole body is a perfect target.

the main heat signature issue with planes is obviously engine exhaust, that's the reason for the box nacelle, to conceal the exhaust better. i doubt the body of the plane getting hot matters that much.

Is this some weird bizzarro world where 5th gen fighter aircraft don't have radar, guns, missiles and FLIR of their own? jackass, if an enemy can see you on FLIR, you can see them too. if stealth was truly a meme, there wouldn't be so many wannabe stealth fighters in development like the Su-57 and J-20.

Modifications would alleviate all the problems of legacy crafts.

COD4

Modifying a legacy airframe to be as stealthy as an F-35 would make it much more costly.

That's for confirming you know nothing about flirs.

Modern QWIPs are so good they made it primary sensor instead of a radar on eurofighter, retard. And they are absolutely passive. You stealth is a fucking meme.

Because fish can't fly

ir is a nonissue man, radar has been the bigger dick sensor since WW2. you are larping right now

>Modern QWIPs are so good they made it primary sensor instead of a radar on eurofighter, retard.
>You stealth is a fucking meme.
Meanwhile in the real world, the FCAS and Tempest are both LO shaped. I guess both BAE and Airbus have been memed on!

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is this dipshit really trying to argue that the main sensor on the eurofighter isn't the AESA radar?

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>You'd get the same results by giving the new electronic suits on old frames
legacy aircraft cannot be upgraded to the extent of the f-35

Quantum radars, QWIP IRST and X-band radars will make them obsolete soon. Stealth is dead.
>be 5th gen
>can't go supercruise because will glow hot like a star on flirs
>can't deploy weapons in supercruise because have to open weapon bay door at subsonic speed
>can't turn on radar at full power because will be detected by EW
>can't carry any actual weapons because they don't fit inside
>have to undergo expensive maintenance all the time or any scratch on the anti-radar coating will reflect radio waves again
Being a 5th gen stealth plane is a living meme.

>You stealth is a fucking meme.
whoa, why havent you found a job in the defense industry yet? you could turn the whole thing on its head

The scar ALMOST replaced the m4.

legacy aircraft are nearing the end of their service lives, which is the whole point everyone got on board the JSF program in the first place.
you better tell the PLAAF, VVS, USAF, RAF, and every other wannabe big swinging dick of the skies that lmao

>Quantum radars, QWIP IRST and X-band radars will make them obsolete soon. Stealth is dead.
hmm that must be why every single country on earth right now is developing next gen stealth fighters

The whole stealth selling point revolves around the single fucking scenario (((they))'ve been shilling on for the long time: First 3 days of war against some goatfuckers with outdated radars. It's useless after that, it's useless against any technologically advanced adversary, it's useless in any defensive scenario.

it doesn't lmao... you don't know what you're talking about. a modern stealth aircraft is nearly undetectable to radar

only a matter of time before the M27 takes over

>retarded /pol/ user knows nothing about defense industry other than he hates joos

color me surprised.

being able to see your enemy before they see you is completely useless. i expect you to conquer entire nations within the next few years with your amazing intuition for warfare

so somehow the jews have manipulated every single air force (including their own) into buying stealth fighters because of some 46d quantum checkers where the elders of zion conquer the world through the obsoletion of stealth??? have you actually thought through this scenario or are you just spewing faggotry onto your keyboard like every other braindead retard on here?

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*airborne radar
*is ancient and, pray to god, is not an PESA/AESA
*is not coupled with any optical detection system
Year, completely undetectable*

>somehow
Literally no one is buying them except US vassal states that were forced too. It's a massive security breach for them too, because F35 sends all data through US, so say buy to any sovereignty and independence.

LAT, Grenadier. There's something magical about playing as a terrorist trying to zero-in a RPG on a tank all the while screaming islamic-sounding obscenities.

>Literally no one is buying them except US vassal states that were forced too.
>US sells high tech fighter jet to allies only
WTF, you mean countries that are opposed to us can't buy our best gear? How is this allowed?