Where did the idea of Kirby being the strongest Nintendo character come from...

You can't kill the void, he just stilled it and sent it back to sleep. Void Termina is the literal type of immortal. It exists as an aspect of reality.

>Arceus
Can be caught by literal children and almost fucking died via meteor.

>Mantorok
Is weak as fuck currently and was cursed into being as such.

>Shulk
Nowhere near as powerful as Void or Aeon Hero

>Giygas
Lower than Void, but is probably the strongest out of the jobbers you listed.

>everything in his universe is a pushover
I dunno about that, dude.
>Kirby's Adventure: the literal personification of nightmares that, by infesting some shitty portal, prevents everyone in Dream Land from dreaming
>Dark Matter trilogy: an alien hivemind with seemingly infinite population, capable of possessing entities with ease, nearly succeeds in practically swallowing two planets, the brain of which is a giant eye that bleeds poison and can create more Dark Matter at will
>Planet Robobot: a colossal robot the size of a planet that both wants to and is capable of erasing existence as a whole, materializing asteroid-sized desk items as will, fights Kirby in a gigantic virtual reality
>Star Allies: a dark god that is most likely the progenitor of Dark Matter, the Master Crown, and Kirby, also practically the size of a fucking planet and poses a threat to the entire universe if not dealt with immediately - host to a fraction of Kirby's true power
Kirby bosses don't fuck around.

Void is an omniversal Godhead. It exists in every reality at once and everything originates from it. Kirby just beat aspects of the whole. Which is still incredibly impressive.

>GK 1-shot Nightmare
Huh? When were Nightmare and Galacta Knight ever in the same game?

Super Kirby Clash

>Void
?

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Wrong Void, my man.

youtube.com/watch?v=MDhKULwKNYg
Someone post the math.

Where ever you're from, go back.

I thought the Clash games weren't canon.

>6 apples fall on him
>dies

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They're what if scenarios.
What if Galacta Knight and Nightmare fought?
While the situations aren't canon, the strength displayed in those what ifs are canon

Exdeath would not like Kirby's Void that much. The Void dreams and creates all life here.
It's not even clear if all things must return to the void, just that they begin there.

Kuzamaki actually going into a heavy loredive made every joke about kirby's powerlevel true.
Shit like Kracko being retconned into a GOD OF STORMS THAT WILL ALWAYS REGENERATE AS LONG AS THERE IS A CLOUD ACROSS ALL SKIES.

It's a "The material itself is an isolated storyline that's non-canon but the interactions themselves still operate by the normal rules of the Kirbyverse."

The specific scenarios might not be canon, but the characters, lore, and their strength are.

Kirby's health meter is just a measure of how much shit he'll take before he decides to go do something else.

Everything in his universe is a pushover because he's the strongest

Kirby is Galacta Knight or at least I really want to believe so.

>Shit like Kracko being retconned into a GOD OF STORMS THAT WILL ALWAYS REGENERATE AS LONG AS THERE IS A CLOUD ACROSS ALL SKIES.
Kracko is literally the Black Manta of the Kirbyverse.

Considering Clash, that would mean Kirby is much MUCH older than we actually thought. Or its time fuckery.

>Gets sucked into a black hole TWICE
"If I wanted to be annoyed I'd try a diet"

>Kirby
>dieting
Skinny Kirby. IMAGINE

He is called a temporal warrior, and we still haven't seen a parallel Galacta Knight.

He's also apparently sealed outside of linear time and causality, meaning whenever someone summons him, it's basically always the first time he gets summoned.

I don't think it's possible for him to get skinny, unless he wanted to be skinny.

I'm mostly just pondering it because it makes for an immensely cursed image.

>Galacta Knight is summoned
>He's in a bed
>He's sleeping
Give him a break.

>The motherfucker literally cracks his own planet in half with a karate chop, to start.
I still don't know why this is brought up as such a prominent point to Kirby's canonical strength when
>1. Megaton Punch is a sub-game and sub-games are rarely considered canon
>2. A literal Waddle Dee has been shown to be able to accomplish the exact same thing in Hard mode / 2 Player
>3. Even if you want to say that Bandana Waddle Dee is just a god-tier Waddle Dee or something, a regular Knuckle Joe and Iron Mam pull off the exact same thing

I think it's a matter of his face-to-body ratio. Mass Attack had larger faces to drive home the idea they were ten smaller Kirbies.

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Because we have shit like this.

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He has a fighting chance against a lot of world ending monsters but most of his success comes from his friends plus a magic doohickey

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Its a joke that people eventually took seriously including the game director

and this

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If he can't fight whilst sleeping, then it clearly isn't the REAL Galacta Knight.

>1. Megaton Punch is a sub-game and sub-games are rarely considered canon
All the sub-games are canonical feats of strength.

>2. A literal Waddle Dee has been shown to be able to accomplish the exact same thing in Hard mode / 2 Player
Everything in Popstar is super strong. And Bandana is canonically only somewhat behind Kirby, like Dedede and Meta Knight.

>3. Even if you want to say that Bandana Waddle Dee is just a god-tier Waddle Dee or something, a regular Knuckle Joe and Iron Mam pull off the exact same thing
See above.

>Mario beats everything cause he's the main hero
>....
>Link beats everything because he's the main hero
>...
>Kirby beats everything cause he's the main hero
>OMG KIRBY IS LE INFINITE GOD OF POWER
Why? Not even DK gets this bullshit and he also pulls off wacky cartoon feats like breaking the moon

and this

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Kirby kills universal and multiversal gods like it's nothing.

Isn't there a theory floating around for a while now that Galacta Knight is Kirby from the far future? Is there any credibility to that?

and this

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Translation: Kirby kills wacky cartoon aliens because he's a wacky cartoon character

and this

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Kirby's power, infinite or otherwise, is not the true point of Kirby anyway.

Fuck you, it's good.

>Literally every game ever with item descriptions has retarded shit like "can delete the universe in a second" (see: Every single Pokedex entry)
>Only Kirbyfags treat it like serious lore
Why?

Nope. He canonically kills universal and multiversal shit that literally no other Nintendo characters actually deal in. Cry more.

>Talking about Megaton Punch when fucking Star Slam Heroes exist

The fucking little puff launches a planet threatening meteor 9999 Light Years away in under a minute. That is universe shattering levels of absurd strength.

and this

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Honestly, no, besides the fact that he shares the title of "Strongest being in the galaxy" and he's pink.
Temporal wishy-washy stuff could be that he's an elder Kirby who's become even more powerful, transcending the dimensions of time and space to challenge Kirby and friends.
But it's just a theory at this point. To be fair, it's more fun that way.

>Mario beats a fire breathing turtle by dumping it into lava or defeating him with objects in his own arena.
>Link slays an incarnate of godly power with a god-slaying sword.
>Kirby's world 2 boss is an interstellar storm god and longest running antagonists range from a plus sized penguin that learned to fly and an alien hivemind that's assimilating planet after planet that's split/reborn from a Galactus-tier entity.

>Nope. He canonically kills universal and multiversal shit that literally no other Nintendo characters actually deal in. Cry more.

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Because it is serious lore, maybe? Lore in Kirby actually has massive backing behind it, unlike Pokedex entries which actively contradict each other on the regular.

Because that's where we get most of our lore.

and this

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Oh shit, look out. He's falling back on Wojakshitting now.

Kirby can also die to a waddle Dee which is the equivalent of being killed by a pillow lightly touching you

and this

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Kirby's power is infinite so long as you are willing to believe in him.

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Do you honestly think this makes you look like you've won an argument, you dumb bitch?

See

Man, if only another godslayer didn't specifically choose to boost Kirby of all characters to be the one to start a rebellion against the biggest threat the entire Smash cast has ever been held up against.

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Because Mario and Link mostly just have to deal with the same magical warlords while Kirby fights gods on a regular basis.

and this

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>Mario beats everything cause he's the main hero
Throws a homosexual reptile off a platform
>Link beats everything because he's the main hero
Beats a wizard who is harassing a town

Superstar kirby is the best kirby design

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It's still a pillow pissing them off

Here's the official Kirby fanbase theory:

In the future, Kirby grew up and was trained by Meta Knight to fight in some kind of galactic nightmare war. After the war, Kirby returned to Popstar alone (Meta Knight died) and went by the name Galacta Knight. He married Chu Chu, and had a daughter Ribbon.

Ribbon got sucked into a space time void and Kirby (GalaxKnight) flew in to save her, but was trapped forever, only being freed to fight current-day Kirby and friends. Ribbon was spat out on Ripple Star.

Yes, this is the widely agreed theory in the Kirby fanbase

Alvis solos all of those

It is more fun, honestly half the point of Kirby is coming up with and seeing the insane lore.
>Kracko is now immortal
>Hyness may have been the primary force behind sealing Galacta Knight
>Master Crown is practically confirmed to be a Dark Matter related entity
>Dark Meta Knight, a relatively throwaway character from Amazing Mirror, became the driving force and source of conflict in Triple Deluxe
>There is a "darkness in Dedede's heart" as per Triple Deluxe
>Suzie was trapped in Another Dimension for an unknown amount of time
>Dark Matter, despite only really being real antagonists in 3 games, are also intensely connected with the baddies of at least 3 more, other, games
I can't wait to see what they come up with next.

and this

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>if only another godslayer didn't specifically choose to boost Kirby of all characters
Lmao what the actual fuck are you saying?

Void is infinitely worse than Galactus.

You'd also be pissed if a veritable tide of those little shits kept tripping you. Also, Kirby is basically a young teen in mentality. Patience is not his strong suit.

>got rid of Nightmare, whose influence was causing people nightmares while sealed away, blew part of the moon in the process
>defeated an army of self-replicating parasytes and their leader Zero and Zero-Two which have been able to engulf an entire planet before
>destroyed a powerful trickster and a clockwork star which is capable of time-space corruption feats and was able to literally push against the sun and the moon
>destroyed this same trickster powered up by the clockwork's power
>beat the strongest warrior in the galaxy, Galacta Knight about 4 times now, this is a guy who can cut through space to open dimensional chasms and one-shotted both Nightmare and almost killed OS-star
>went through a mirror world to fight a stronger version of Meta Knight and Dark Mind
>got rid of a pesky bee that drew power from the stalk that was making use of Popstar's life energy
>destroyed another clockwork star that was being controlled by a bloodlusty AI, constantly breaking time and space
>destroyed a powerful wizard that could replicate the power of the ultra forms, who intended to bring calamity to both Kirby's and his dimension
>destroyed the embodiment of Void

His planets look like they're made of styrofoam, the black holes don't even move light. Kirby's universe is made out of solidified Pussanium.

and this

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Kirby doesn't have lore it has glorified Dex entries. Kirby's lore is so fucking non-existent that anything even remotely game-changing is exclusive to non-canon side modes. Galacta Knight is literal fucking fanfiction for example

WoL opening cutscene. Shulk uses Monado Speed, as its actual buff worked in Xenoblade, on Kirby. It's why he's the only one who breaks away early enough to get away.
Sakurai's official statement on it shortly around release.
Or do you not understand that Shulk fell a god?

and this

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But Mario IS an ultra high tier, simply because whatever setting you put him into, he will instantly become an expert.
Any game. Any story. Any mechanics. He will know them and perform them to the highest degree of skill.
Mario's power is to be damn good at everything under the sun.

Popstar, just from what we've seen via Robobot and SA, makes Earth look like a tiny drifting piece of stray space rock. It is fuckhuge.

>WAAAAAAA
Kindly go back to Wojakposting. It's easier to ignore you that way.

Things that never happened: The post

Because it triggers the fuck out of autists like you.
We're not serious, we're masquerading as serious to get you to soil yourself.

something to keep in mind is that the boss descriptions are mostly made up during localization

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So do you guys think they have anything genuinely gamechanging planned with Galacta Knight other than hype-as-shit, if not vague, boss battles?
Seriously, his only genuinely canon appearance in the series is way back in Super Star Ultra.

>Everything from his universe is a pushover.
because of how overpowered he is

It should also be noted that in the background for the Marx/Marx Soul fight, you can see hundreds of corrupted galaxies just scrolling by as a background piece.

And in 64 it was the same size as Shiver Star, which was the same size as Earth/was Earth

and this
it depends. Some of them are badly translated, but, when you get to see the original JP ones, they usually talk even more about power level stuff.

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And even then it was in the Meta knight mode

and this

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Clash all but confirms he was one of the four champions who originally sealed away Void Termina using the Spears of Heart. It's really a question of what happened to him.

64 never really gave accurate sizes of the planets. I also wouldn't be surprised if Shiver Star is actually larger than our Earth.

Kirby "lore" in a nutshell
>There was a universe destroying big bang level war in space and basically that war and destruction and carnage reincarnated as Kirby
>also here's another Super Secret Crystal Biamond Buzzword Knight you can tell he's UBER special cause he's a new color we haven't seen on a Knight yet and his pauldrens have spikes or some shit
>powerlevel powerlevel powerlevel class A type AAAA powerlevel
>BTW LITERALLY NONE OF THIS EVER EXISTS OUTSIDE OF PAUSE SCREEN BLURBS AND OPTIONAL MINIGAME MODES LOL

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and this

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and this

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Kirby is 8 inches tall.

>t. autistic Pokekiddie
Cope.

Bayonetta is still stronger though.

>Clash all but confirms
Can you please point me to where it said this? I don't have the energy for Kirby Clash but all this lore-dumping seems interesting to me. I thought Star Allies had implied that Galacta Knight was the "universal threat" that Hyness had helped seal?

Absolutely seething.

and this

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>Clash all but confirms vague shit that will never be expanded on
lmao

Yeah but Super Star Ultra's Meta Knightmare mode is canon. It's the only canon side-story aside from Dededetour, I think.

and this

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Imagine

Umm sweetie Kirby is actually 1000000 feet tall he's the epic chaos god of epic destruction k?

and this

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Its just the way most Kirby villains are presented. I know it sounds silly to say they are taken more serious but that's what makes Kirby finales so fun is how they juxtapose strolling in ice cream factories and toy factories to fighting cosmic monsters in space that are treated like real threats with music like this playing
youtube.com/watch?v=POPD80fxcD4
youtube.com/watch?v=iGGVWGJ0ZiM
Then you have the soul fights that get pretty intense with both the fight and the context around it
youtube.com/watch?v=LXwmFMOoXls

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I don't think they really use that height anymore. Everyone else is generally his height now, if slightly taller.

During the final battle against Aeon Hero Dark, Galacta's original self, he has an attack in which he actually summons the Spears and uses them to try and impale the shit out of you. It's looking increasingly likely that Galacta was a fallen hero that Hyness played a part in sealing.

Kirby is a teeny tiny cotton puff with some magical ability that lets him survive in space and destroy planets that translate to the size of maybe a city. Not the godkiller people tout.

not canon lol

to THIS?!

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Go back to screeching impotently in your Pokemon threads, OP.

It is referenced in SSB64, a Japanese guidebook and Star Allies. Pop Star was also called 'tiny' and 'small' in multiple games.

and this
>literally two final bosses in main games
>not canon
here's your (You)

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>people keep saying Kirby fights le scary lovecraft monsters
>They use Zero-Two as the "definitive" scary boss
>Finally get around to playing 64
>Zero-Two is just a fucking silly looking blob with a fisher price zelda eyeball weakpoint, a fucking stupid cactus tail, and a giant silly BAND-AID
The games are fine but I fucking hate Kirby fans so much.

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>Pop Star was also called 'tiny' and 'small' in multiple games.
Compared to what? Also, Smash definitely isn't canon at all.

and this

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...

NO BUT user WHAT ABOUT THAT TIME KIRBY FOUGHT A NON-DESCRIPT BLACK BLOB? VAGUE BLACK BLOBS ARE SEEWWW SCARY RIGHT?

>Aeon Hero Dark, Galacta's original self
Jesus Christ, why can't they show all this badass lore shit in actual mainline games?
Praying that the next Kirby game in 3D, has cool lore shit like that, a bit more than Star Allies had.

...

the nigga was fucking changing the surrounding space by blinking

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Shulk is still the strongest Nintendo character since he could think Kirby out of existence, alongside anything else.

>can't they show all this badass lore shit in actual mainline games?
Because in reality Kirby is a game for small fucking children and Nintendo would take a big fat shit on HAL if they tried to force Kirby to be edgy or mature in the actual main game

He's a fucking eldritch abomination.

We already got the groundwork in Star Allies. Clash merely confirms it for us, whilst we wait on the next big game.

No one here has called Zero Two scary. It's not a "scary" boss, if you think anything in Kirby is scary you're a damn pussy.
Zero Two is just the definitive example of the average Kirby villain: a world-ending Lovecraftian god / cosmic horror. No one claimed Kirby bosses are genuinely scary.

>Lovecraftian

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Incredible, every word you just said was wrong.

and this

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Shulkfags are adorable.

Nintendo wouldn't particularly care. You do remember that Kirby games have explicit blood in them, right? Along with people quite blatantly dying as well?

ngl, the final bosses are scary compared to the rest of the games

and this
Kirby is far from lovecraftian dude.

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>can be killed and/or disabled
>Lovecraftian

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Out of Wojaks, huh?

>Kirby
>strongest Nintendo character
>Jobbed against Tabuu

>Lovecraftian horror is a subgenre of horror fiction that emphasizes the cosmic horror of the unknown (or unknowable)
Nightmare, Dark Matter (and by extension Zero), the Master Crown, Star Dream (or at least the NOVA it's built off of) and Void Termina all fit that description. They're all cosmic threats that swallow or destroy entire worlds without much thought, and display levels of strength and power that dwarf most other entities.

Bowser literally falls into a black hole in Mario Galaxy and lives, and Mario pushes him into it by reflecting meteors back at him.
And Donkey Kong has been stated multiple times to be beyond him.
Where is their wank?

"Lovecraftian" is jsut used as a general descriptor. Eldritch works better, since it doesn't get bogged down by literal retards who think cosmic horror was defined by Lovecraft.

>No seriously guys kirby is MATURE and EDGY
kys

Want to clarify, beyond him for Donkey Kong means beyond Mario.

>universal and multiversal
Reading comprehension?

there is wank, but it's not enough, Kirby is just that strong. It's canon that he has infinite power.
The devs makes Kirby as strong as he needs to be

and this

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Yeah, I suppose "eldritch" would've been a better descriptor.
My point is Kirby villains are almost always vague, godly, cosmic threats that completely destroy most other things, power-wise.

When did I say that? Please, point me to those exact words in that post, you cocksucker.

>Lovecraftian
You have no idea what that word means

Kirby can't defeat Tabuu in 1v1.
Wings wave and it's over.

See

>villains are almost always vague, godly, cosmic threats
They're fucking space aliens that are usually just generic ass blobs or circles. That's not eldritch

This doesn't really count because it's filled with faggots arguing about Nintendo games, but we need more Kirby threads. Out of all the threads I've been in on Yea Forums, Kirby threads have consistently usually been comfy and free of the false-flagging and anons trying to find shit to be angry about that's common across Yea Forums.

and this
>その力ゆえ おそれられてきた、全てを ほろぼし
かねない 古の剣士。クローンではなく、未知なる
異空間ロードから 時空をこえ よびさまされた。
様ざまな時代で ふういん されてきたきろくが
残るが、しょうめつさせることは できていない。"
>"The English version of Kirby: Planet Robobot pause screen for Galacta Knight is missing some lines found in the Japanese version. The original says that Galacta Knight was sealed many times over the ages but was never successfully destroyed. It also states that he was capable of bringing everything to ruin."

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>Sonic is stronger than Kirby

Eldritch as a term generlaly means "ghostly, alien, or strange." You dont need "MUH LOVECRAFTIAN TENTACLES AND SAN LOSS" to be eldritch. You just need to be surreal and blatantly alien to the rest of the setting.

That literally only describes Dark Matter. Zero Two looks the way it does in-game because of the technical limitations of the Nintendo 64.
Here's official art of it. That's eldritch to me. Go look up Void Termina. I'd consider that eldritch, too.

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>Smash
>canon
Oh, yeah, and Wii Fit Trainer is canonically able to punch people out of the planet, of course.
youtube.com/watch?v=J7dnZIGayTs

It’s a game, user. Health meters are for the player and don’t always reflect the in-game lore

They're also orgetting that once Kirby is back in the game in Subspcae Emissary, he pretty blatantly breaks the villains schemes time and time again, and shows up everyone else. Same for Ultimate.

and this

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It's not canon nonetheless. The only influence Smash has had over Kirby, was the Smash Ability, some moves that some bosses eventually got (like Dedede throwing Gordos) and the Master Hand mini-boss in Amazing Mirror.

and this

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>The motherfucker literally cracks his own planet in half with a karate chop, to start.
Not canon for the obvious fact that Popstar is never cracked. It's an exaggeration
>Then SSBU had him be the only character to survive Galeem's onslaught which furthered the joke
Favoritism at its finest.
>Kirby out speeds the light beams
>Sonic doesn't when by canon he'd have more than enough speed to grab Pikachu and get the fuck out of there
>Arwing which has been shown to go at warp speed doesn't

See and , then list your wrists.

Fuck what currently is the lore. Post what you want further games to do with the lore. What do you want to be canon that currently is only a theory?

Kirby didn't outspeed it he teleported with the warp star.

That said such a thing has literally never happened before, so Sakurai without a doubt invented it so his special snowflake could be the only survivor

It's mostly just kids who freak out over zero bleeding who don't know how to properly express how cool they find something, its because of that dang credits artwork that purposely makes him look realistic so now everyone sees him as this really edgy boss
Those are Adeleine drawings that aren't intended to be completely accurate, its her interpretation

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Kirby lore fuckin' owns.

youtube.com/watch?v=EIKb01oHDLo
youtube.com/watch?v=p4LGbIKPo6g
youtube.com/watch?v=Np8x5jp578o
youtube.com/watch?v=VLBuNju6DNs

>Everything in his universe is a pushover
Lmfao. The final boss of Robobot is a reality-warping robot planet.

>warp star
>never teleported
Are you fucking dumb?

and this
>Favoritism at its finest.
The warp star has ALWAYS been portrayed as really fucking fast to the point where it crosses galaxies in seconds.

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64 Dee being confirmed as Bandana Dee would be an INFINITELY more satisfying reveal then more generic "Recolor Knight destroyed a zillion planets for teh LULZ"

>he defeated void
You know who also was able to defeat void? Random mooks. You go by that logic even someone like Link who in that universe would be the equivilant of a mix between Sword, Bow, Bomb and Cutter abilities and he'd have zero trouble with anything in the Kirby universe

>source: my ass

Meta knight is kirby's adoptive parent but he was scared of being a bad influence so he distanced himself from him after caring for him enough to not have to worry about his well being

Kirbyfags proving that anons point that they're easy to hate.

so much SOUL

and this

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Link would fucking die to Nightmare alone.

Take your pills, OP.

I knew I wasn't fucking crazy for thinking this

I know it's called the "Warp" star but I swear I could never recall a moment of it actually teleporting, only directly flying Kirby from place to place.

and this

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With how fast it goes naturally, it may as well just be blinking out of reality whenever it moves.

Fuck off Woolie, shill elsewhere

What's your favorite final boss theme? I think Nightmare's theme is vastly underrated.

Are you? The Warp Star has LITERALLY never teleported before. It only explodes into dust when Kirby crashes

You're the one pulling doo doo out of your chu chu faggot. Do you also think Rick is supposed to have realistic hamster feet?

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CROWNED and PROGRAM are excellent.

and this

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They could just pull off an explanation later, like the void termina battle is going on at the speed of light or some shit ala gurren lagann, then I actually can't think of many vidya characters up for it.
Its all bullshit as of now though

Sakurai specifically said that it teleported. It needed to, because Galeem absorbed all of reality. Hence why Sonic couldn't simply outrun it.
He literally invented a new ability for it just to make his baby boy the sole survivor

Fully powered Ness vs Kirby
-set in empty universe
-Kirby is not allowed to copy Ness or anyone else

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>since Galacta Knight and 3 others SEALED Void
i thought galacta knight was from a paralel universe and that morpho knight was one of the ones who sealed void

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>Had a daughter, Ribbon
>Who’s a fairy, not an octopus OR a Kirby thing
>Who’s also Kirby’s love interest by the end of Kirby 64
Nigga...

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>Kirby can use the Warp Start to teleport away from Galeem
>Sonic can't use the Chaos Emeralds to teleport away from Galeem in Super Sonic

What the fuck?

>Kirby grabs a Hypernova Fruit
>eats Ness and the fucking battlefield
>takes a nap

H-HE'S FAST

Kirby: a character literally aimed to children who's whole fan base is composed by manchilds.

I have yet to see a kid who is a fan of Kirby. Kids like Five Nights At Freddy, Minecraft and Angry Birds now.

>empty universe
It's just them 1 on 1, no additional bullshit.

>Take Megaman X for example
>Agility-wise he's faster than Kirby
>At base he's pretty much Plasma ability on steroids
>Add in the fact that he can potentially gain abilities from bosses he's able to weild multiple abilities
>Put him in the Kirby universe
>The universe where random little enemies can defeat everything in Star Allies
He would kick ass, as an absolute shit ton of fictional characters would in that universe.
Kirby's universe is full of pushovers that don't fight with any logic, they just do attacks and hope they hit.

Cursed.

It's implied Morpho is closer to the Kirby version of the literal God of the Underworld.

Dark Mind or Void

Then he just inhales Ness' strongest attack, and shoots it back at him.

Yeah, ok, what the fuck is Morpho Knight? Why does he exist? Does he have any bearing on the lore other than being cool as shit and also the butterfly?

Waddle Doo wants his FUCKING UMBRELLA BACK

>Kirby punches Ness full force and sends his constituent particles flying off all over existence, whilst destroying the entire battlefield in the process
>takes a nap

Remember your pills, OP.

DO NOT open this

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And why would Ness not be able to counter and or dodge it?
All your doing is >KIRBY WINS LOL, you're not actually saying why he would win, just going off of the assumption that Kirby has automatically won from the start.

Why didn't I listen?

bro

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Just a friendly reminder that he's watching kirby...very closely

I will never stop screaming at how they managed to make the fucking butterfly that appears in almost every single game not only a character, but also a boss and possible plot point

Retards. Correct answer: Ness shares his favorite food, Steak, with Kirby, and they both take a nap together.

>voredroid

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So Ness really wouldn't stand a chance, huh?

He's been here forever. The JP text implies he's physically composed out of every soul to have ever fallen into the Underworld/Hades/Hell.

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Because that's how HAL would treat it.
Make Kirby as strong as he needs to be.

that looks nothing like peach

look at meta knight in the last pic
he knows

>MetaKnight looking at the butterfly in the last panel

KINO.

Yeah, I know. I understand that he's the butterfly. But what exactly is the point of Morpho Knight being a character? Do we have any clue what he is beyond the fucking butterfly? Does he have any real connection to the lore at large?

His only chance is doing as says and placating him with food.

Dumb fuck tranny

>much faster than Kirby

>a character that regularly jobs against Kirby has feats crossing the galaxy (see and )
>random dark matter mooks crossed the solar system
>Zero usually travels across the universe in his Dark Star form
>Void Termina is said to perpetually roam across the cosmos
>all the FTL feats in the series where characters are seen crossing the universe

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Want more shit on Adeleine, Shiver Star, and Meta Knights past.

Ness' various 1H-KO knock kirby around, kirby cries because he thought they were friends, ness realizes he's been a dick and apologizes
They then eat a cup of lifenoodles together

From the looks of things, he's the Grim Reaper of the Kirby universe and apparently showed up in response to Galacta's screams/"Pleas for life".
Also something about Another Dimension

He's Kirby's Beast of Revelation. See

I never noticed metaknight giving the butterfly that wary stare. He knows something is off about that thing.

Are you for fucking real right now
How long have they been planning shit with him

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So when does metaknight fight Aeon Hero at full power?

Everyone forgets the fact that OG Zero is the one that shot its own blood at Kirby and tore its eye out. Zero Two mostly has the angel/back from the dead symbolism going
It's from Star Allies, so not that long ago.
In Kirby's Super Dream Arena of course.

Never. He will forever get blueballed.

>Waddle Doo goes so fast he literally phases out of existance

>Summons the strongest warrior and "wins"
>This isn't even my final form

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I don't really care about Kirby's power level - pit every mainline Kirby final boss against each other. Who wins? Hard mode: No Void Termina, since it's clear he'd win.

Star dream. no contest

I think Galacta Knight being considered the strongest warrior in his only canon appearance basically tells us that true Aeon Hero isn't ever going to be a real thing, since it's who GK used to be or whatever.

Galacta Knight, he 1-shot Nightmare in his base form, that's speaks for itself.

>defeated Galacta Knight two times already
it's just a matter of time
inb4.: b-but not canon

Star Dream

I feel like Star Dream is fuel for getting corrupted by 02/Dark Matter.

Either Star Dream or Galacta.

Didn't Galacta Knight 1-shot him?

*teleports into Kirby's reality*
>CHAOS CONTROL
*goes Super*
>CHAOS SPEAR
*spears a frozen Kirby through his entire body*
>BEHOLD, THE ULTIMATE LIFEFORM'S TRUE POWER!
*removes power binding rings on wrists and ankles*
*completely obliterates Kirby to the point where nothing, not even atomic particles remain*

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Can Dark Matter corrupt a machine?
Also, >implying Star Dream isn't truly just Robot Zero-Two
Star Dream Soul OS has the mark from Galacta's attack, meaning that Galacta just made it the robot equivalent of angrier.

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God I hope they fuck off with this RtDL shit and do something interesting with Kirby again. Planet Robobot was the peak of their current design philosophy and Star Allies ended up feeling mediocre and phoned in as fuck. I really dont want another RtDL game

release robobot on the switch already dammit
bundle it with triple deluxe and RTDL

>t. Shadowfag fanfiction
What really happens is that Kirby succs him into oblivion.

Galacta Knight one-shot Star Dream's base form, not full-power Star Dream which is connected to and using Access Ark's offensive capablities.
Really the battle comes down to the Dark Matter swarm, including Zero / 02, and Star Dream.

Galacta knight can one shot anything. Besides said hit activated the Soul operating system in star dream?
>corrupting an unfeeling machine

>SSBU had him be the only character to survive Galeem's onslaught
That was less about strength though. He is just the only character who had a gimmick that let him outrun it.

A rerelease of RTDL, Triple Deluxe, and Robobot with Star Allies level graphics would be fucking glorious.

Has Kirby ever moved in frozen time before?

kirby: *was a hologram*

Why does Kirby's power level upset nerds so much?

Is it that the tryhard hardcore gaymen can't stand a cute pink ball being so powerful? That's what makes it good.

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I get that, but Galacta's BASE 1-shot SDs base, upgrade SDSOS to his nova form and that's a challenge

beam mage?

baby game

Kirby literally can't lose, HAL will just make him stronger

>"MARX!"
>"Oho? You're approaching me?"

Yeah okay, but let Donkey Kong get at him with his ol' reliable double-barrel shotgun. Fuck's Kirby gonna do?

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Make DK look like Kaptain K. Rool?

That's Goku and Frieza, not Jotaro and Dio, idiot.

>Survives Chaos Spear
>Throws Friend Heart
Now he's a friend.
The point is that Star Dream survived it (maybe) and is powerful enough to open portals to Another Dimension. And that's without factoring the Access Ark (given that Zero is presumed to have the Dark Matter swarm)
It's clear that thing is operating on massive power.

C G

>implying Goku and Frieza aren't just Jotaro and Dio in another form

>implying Goku is anything like Jotaro
El stupido.

Anyone can be as weak or powerful as the game wants them to be, it's really not as serious as people make it out to be

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There's only one way to settle it now...

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Galacta Knight. He one-shots BOTH Nightmare and Star Dream.
that attack is literally a one hit kill move.
*starts moving in stopped time*
>POYO
*goes Hypernova*
>Poyo!
*Inhales the planet*
>P-Poyo?
*Absorbs him and completely erases his body and soul*
*Split out his remains and trasmute them as star-shaped energy*

OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
So can Galacta by cutting the air.

You could argue it back during the finale of the Namek Saga. Anything else is a big no.

bring it on

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Oh shit.

>So can Galacta by cutting the air.
user did say mainline final bosses, but yeah Galacta's most likely the stronger man.

I still found your reply to be humorous.

Not to shit on your dinner, but technically Galacta Knight isn't a mainline Kirby final boss.
>King Dedede
>Nightmare
>Dark Matter
>Marx
>Zero
>Zero Two
>Dark Mind
>Magolor
>Queen Sectonia
>Star Dream
>Void Termina
If you really want to stretch it, you can add in Necrodeus, Dark Crafter, and Drawcia.

Don't forget that he is bigger, faster and stronger too.

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That's all that matters, really.

DESU, I'm quite tired and I'm seeing Jojo faces literally everywhere after watching it over several days. 99% certain I just saw Giorno in the corner of my eye

His adaptability, Kirby is capable of cloning anyone's abilities.

How many video game character do you know almost get their own galaxy destroyed over a slice of strawberry shortcake? Kirby will mow down anything or anyone that gets in his way, it's just how he is.

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you forgot someone

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Fine.
Galacta Knight was Star Dreams last resort, not Dark Matter.

Dark Nebula is just a rogue piece of Dark Matter. Under the Dark Matter swarm you'd have Zero / 02, the regular Dark Matter forms, DMB, Dark Nebula, and Dark Crafter, as well as potentially the Master Crown if you believe that theory.

>Spoiler
Was that not clear in-game already?
He even overrode the ban on Haltmann put on the space-time road/Another Dimension portal just to grab the authentic article rather than throwing out another clone.

That's because despite Star Dream's astronomical computational power and processing, it could only produce a failed clone of DMB. Considering Star Dream's power, it's truly amazing that it couldn't properly clone a single member of the Dark Matter swarm. Plus, one Dark Matter's kind of a pushover. But the whole swarm, plus the brain? That's a different story entirely.

This just leads me to believe that Galacta Knight could fight Zero without it being one sided

Are Kirbyfags the most autistic people in the Nintendo fandom?

>Failed Clone
It can use the rainbow sword, that's a MAJOR improvement.

>OP still crying
Seethe.

Unrelated but I'd kill for a restoration mod that replaces the coconut gun with DK's shotgun

fuck you, here's the ranking of every final boss
>Void
>Void Termina
>Galacta Knight
>Star Dream
>Dededestroyer Z
>Dark Mind/Zero
>Magolor
>Drawcia
>Zero Two
>Necrodeus
>Dark Nebula
>Dark Matter
>Nightmare/Marx
>Dark Crafter
>Team DDD
>King Dedede
>Robo Dedede
>Queen Sectonia
>Yin-Yarn
>Gryll

If Dark Nebula is the "Lord of Darkness", what does that make Zero (and Dark Mind)?
Smash exists.

no, that'd be either pokefags or smashfags

>Now, you're probably wondering what I'm gonna need all this speed for

The Dededestroyer Z can make Kirbys, put it above Void.

That's simply how Star Dream's cloning works. DMBClone could wield it because the original specimen remembered the Rainbow Sword from it's fight with Kirby. That's why we saw Sectonia's original appearance when her clone died.
The clone of DMB still couldn't properly use the actual, regular Dark Matter form, and could only fight using lesser forms of its attacks in DL2, where it was a much harder fight because DMB had the skies and the full mobility of its normal form to its advantage.
I'd doubt DMBClone could even, like, assimilate with the rest of the swarm, if it were alive.

/thread

It took Galacta and three other guys to even stop Termina, much less kill him.
Unless the heart spears have the same powers as the Love-Love Stick, Galacta would get swept by Zero.
He'd probably be okay with 02, since he's much weaker and doesn't have an absurdly specific weakness anymore like when he was alive.

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the pokedex is canonically written by children, dumbass

I did put it bellow, because apparently it is a glass cannon, since it can be destroyed by the clones it creates
It depends. Pokemon like Arceus weren't, if I'm not mistaken.

that shit isn't cannon.

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The "lord of darkness" shit was a translating fuckup or something, I think. Some Japanese manual confirmed Dark Nebula was a rogue piece of Dark Matter. I'd assume it being stuck in the chest is what kept it from dying when Zero Two and the rest of the swarm was finally killed off. Zero's the brain of the entire Dark Matter swarm and it can create them with little effort.
Dark Mind is just as similar to Nightmare as it is to Zero. I still don't fully believe it's the mirror version of either of them, it's too different. I don't believe it is related to any of the other Kirby bosses.

Zero is probably 25% of Void
So is Galacta Knight, it's a fair fight.

>kirby powerlevels!!

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Here's your (You)

Kirby already has a princess look, no need for him to be android 21.

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>Star Dream managed to work through the genetic clusterfuck that is Sectonia's DNA and figure out what she originally looked like from that
>couldn't perfectly clone a single Dark Matter
jesus

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>doesn't have an absurdly specific weakness anymore like when he was alive.
The crystal? Thats why the dark matters wreck it in the intro of the game.

So is this why Dedede shifted from being the big baddie to more of an ally pretty early on in the series? He's like, "oh shit better not fuck with this guy anymore."

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>It depends. Pokemon like Arceus weren't, if I'm not mistaken.
Have a source? I'm genuinely curious if that's true.

I don't really. It's been a really long time since I last played Platinum.

He's still Kirbys rival, but the microsecond something else happens, he'll help Kirby.

Kirby is a master of guns and knives.

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He goes from being a flat bad guy to a more staunch anti-hero around the crisis with Nightmare. And from there, he goes full hero, with only bits of their rivalry breaking throw nowadays.

From what I heard, "Lord of the Dark" is what its referred to in Japanese while the english version gave it the title "Ruler of the Underworld". I haven't heard anything from official sources saying that it went rogue, just that it had shared a name with Zero and Zero Two (Dark Zero).
I brought up Dark Mind because Team Kirby Clash refers to King D-Mind as "the King of Darkness". Dark Mind is connected to Zero via Void, so I'd assume that Dark Mind's less of a mirror version of Zero and moreso a straightforward incarnation who prefers making Mirror versions of people. D-Mind makes me theorize that it's body in Amazing Mirror is just a form it took that particular time.

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If we aren't counting Galacta Knight, it's down to Zero / Dark Matter and Star Dream. Zero wins.
If we do count Galacta Knight, it's a close battle between Zero / Dark Matter and him, with Galacta Knight eventually winning out.
The Dark Matter hivemind/swarm/race/whatever is just too powerful for any of the other bosses to beat it. Zero's practically untouchable without the Love-Love stick or something emotionally like that, and Star Dream's an unfeeling, emotionless robot - since it wouldn't be able to fucking destroy Zero it could easily overwhelm Star Dream and either corrupt it or boil it to shreds.
That said Galacta Knight has sheer, universal power on his side. He'd eventually eradicate DM after a close fight, I think.

And this

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he's been an anti hero/rival to Kirby since Kirby's adventure so it's not like it's anything new he's just a greedy fat fuck that gets mind controlled/possessed alot.

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>ignoring Void Termina

He does have a light form

That's a very interesting take on Dark Mind and something I hadn't considered since I personally don't care for Super Kirby Clash and I haven't read up on its lore yet. Very interesting thoughts.
I need to replay Amazing Mirror anyway. Are there any more grand revelations like this in the Clash games, other than the Aeon Hero shit?

DNA altered by mirror magic no less

Why do people assume the "infinite power" thing is unique to Kirby and not something he has because he's an incarnation of Void? Dark Matter, Gooey, Zero, etc probably have infinite power as well.

That's why he said it'd be close, 1 of the 4 heroes vs 1 of the new matters

The original post said to ignore Void Termina because Void Termina unanimously would buttfuck every single other final boss, including Galacta Knight, into dust. The discussion isn't as interesting when every answer is the same.

Zero probably does. Gooey is a possibility. But there's no way random Dark Matter mooks have infinite power.

oh, ok then, sorry.

thanks to a Aeon Hero attack we know that there are multiple Void Terminas, not Voids or Void souls, just Terminas

Assuming Void Termina is in the equation, would it side with Zero and the Dark Matter? Is it clear whether it's explicitly Dark Matter or just the origin of it?

What the fuck?
Okay, so what is the difference between Void, Void Termina, and Void Soul?

Not many. The games were the first to introduce the concept of "Parallels" with Parallel/Another Susie and Parallel/Another Landia. A neat little touch is that Parallel Susie doesn't have a hairclip like normal Susie, since it was said in an interview that it's a treasure to her.
The Stuff about D-Mind mostly comes from the website, where it's revealed that D-Mind's form is actually a reflection of the previous King of the Dream Kingdom (i.e. Dedede's TKCD/SKC counterpart)
Also, It confirms Zan's words on the Kirby Twitter that the Jamba Heart came from Another Dimension, since Aeon Hero's rift attack shows it floating in there

everyone knows Mario is the strongest

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Yeah, but the point is that there's way more stuff that can hurt him as 02 than as Zero.
He might not have even known about the crystal at first. He might have just seen Ribbon running off with it, figured it was something important, and sent some Dark Matter blobs to go wreck it.
A few, yeah.
>Nightmare knew enough about Galacta to summon him, so they might have met sometime before the imprisonment
>confirmation that Sectonia was always kinda fucked, and the Mirror just sped it up
Gooey and Dark Matter were both created by Zero, so they're probably not on the same level.

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It's just the origin of Dark matter... Soul matter, Dream matter and Heart matter.
It would destroy everything unless everyone ganged up on it at the start.

we kinda already knew that from SA but astral birth void termina is the true void, guessing the other ones were like parts that split off like dark matter from zero

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Void exists in all dimensions and is implied to be connected in some way to the concept of "Chaos" - the state the universe was in prior to the creation of everything.
Whether Void Created it or was Born from it, is the question.
Void's pretty hell-bent on destroying everything, so that depends on how omnicidal the Dark Matter might be.

There is only 1 Void
Void Souls are probably just that, Terminas that 'died' and are removed from existence when they are defeated.

Shulk's power level is extremely contingent.
He only had his godmode briefly and surrendered it. Plus his power is entirely based on the environment he occupies

That was never true.

Mario isn't all that powerful really, the only true power he has is jumping anything else requires a power up save for the rpg games which are kind of their own self contained things.

Astral Birth Void the the source of everything, down on a multiverse level.
Void Termina (Destroyer of Worlds) is the body it creates. Each universe has it's own Void Termina
Void Soul (Essence of Chaos) is the same as before, but when Terminas die, their body vanishes, leaving only it's core. Void Soul is their core, the true form of a Termina

Worded like a reddit post

Okay, so... Void is the big one, it exists everywhere in is the origin of the four matters and everything. Void Termina is the personification of it? Like, the body? and it can split off and become other Terminas? And the soul is just Void's soul? Am I getting this right?
What the hell is soul, dream, and heart matter? How did a single F2P boss rush game get me so out of the loop on Kirby?

A rattata can make Arceus faint

astral birth is heavily implied to be reborn again, whether it be bad or good depends on who interacts with it Kirby and friends made it smile at the end so if we ever see it again it'll be a being of pure good.

in the japanese pause description of Void, it says something like "Souls, Dreams, Hearts and darkness all originate from Void" don't remember it exactly

play star allies if you wanna know about the void, read the boss pause screens and the hyness rant.

if you want I can give you a comprehensive list of all the Kirby lore we know about the ancients and void

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They had the dream stalk to get Sectonia's DNA but what did they use to clone Dark Matter?

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>The Staff that gives the wielder free movement through space-time is weaker than the Magical Girl Staff
Shit, I'd believe it

see

The sœy obsession with lovecraft epic elder god shit is just pathetic at this point. It’s not cool

>The Stuff about D-Mind mostly comes from the website, where it's revealed that D-Mind's form is actually a reflection of the previous King of the Dream Kingdom (i.e. Dedede's TKCD/SKC counterpart)
I think you're reading too much into it.
The Masked Dedede set mentions "the king" of the Dream Kingdom used it, even though there's no way the events of Revenge of the King could have happened since Kirby's only just met Bandana Dee in the Clash games. The Clash games are likely just an isekai-storytelling thing.
What's probably happening is either
>Dark Mind's using Shadow Dedede as his new host
>Dark Mind made a Dedede body on his own
but in the second case, Shadow Dedede would still need to exist since Dark Mind never met the original.
What's probably happening is either

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You joke but you're not actually wrong.
About the God of Destruction bit of course, not his height. That'd be stupid.

>so if we ever see it again it'll be a being of pure good
Nigga we've seen it twentyseven years ago, it just got more colourful with the years

Turns out Sectonia was kinda always fucked up. Things just got worse when Taranza brought his "gift."

Most of this lore actually comes from Star Allies.
>The Ancients based their transcripts of Void on a "shining form" from a different dimension.
>Void Soul (and the behaviour of the core in general) is the result of Void growing a soul,but the darkness Hyness filled it with is clashing with it. This is why it changes moods and faces every second.
>The whole "Soul, Dream, Heart, Dark" thing, from what I understand, is worded in a confusing manner from what I've heard.
>The Jamba Heart Void was sealed in is not the only one. Others exist in Another Dimension. Star Allies' Guest Star showed Hyness attempting to open a portal to Another Dimension to find one and Heroes in Another Dimension was the follow up to that.
>Zero is heavily implied to be Void's incarnation in Kirby's dimension.

stop replying to bait.

>Kirby's Adventure: the literal personification of nightmares that, by infesting some shitty portal, prevents everyone in Dream Land from dreaming
To be fair the 2nd half of that was Dedede's doing to prevent the nightmare from actually getting to everyone, but also don't forget the fact that 1/3 of the moon got completely destroyed by Kirby's battle with it.

wait how so? was she always obsessed with her vanity?

I'd like that very much, please. It's been forever since I played Star Allies.
I believe I saw a theory stating HWC had been scoping out the planet for a while before PR, and had most likely scooped up DMB's remains after Kirby defeated it in DL2.

kinda.

basically this
Translating "busshitsu" as "Matter" is kind of a stretch, though, and I don't think I've ever seen a Japanese person ever mention anything besides Dark Matter.
It probably just means "everything comes from Void", but people are forming this idea in their heads and running with it because it sounds nice.

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explain,what is the lore

In a way, yes. The Mirror just amplified that to a fucking trillionfold.

but user, Dark Matter literally fucking explodes at the end of Dream Land 3. Unless they went looking around for it's atoms on the atmosphere, that sounds ridiculous.

well, dark matter possessed dedede in the dark matter trilogy, what I think happened is that dark mind did the same to dark dedede in the mirror world, mirror world Kirby is pretty pathetic so he destroyed the mirror world, that's why it's in shambles, as for dark meta knight he's loyal to his king since he's basically meta knights inner evil side much like dark dedede is.

dark d-mind is basically dark mind taking over dark dedede for the long term since nobody was there to knock him out of the body like dark matter got knocked out.

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It's isekai story-telling, but in this case, the "King of the Dream Kingdom" is implied, both by that set and D-Mind using Shadow Dedede's form, to be Dedede himself (which is why I said counterpart).
For reference, Magolor's words from the site are:

>闇の王の姿……ボクどこかで見たコトがあるんダヨネェ。
>たしか、コノ国の王様がこ~んなずんぐりむっくりな姿だったと思うンダ。
>モシカシタラ、その王様も鏡に映ってしまったコトがあるのカモ?
>その姿を借りて、イビツな黒い鏡の親玉が出て来てしまったのカナァ?

Star Dream Core's theme song is officially titled "Soul 0 System" and the core looks exactly like a Jamba Heart, perhaps it's connected to Zero/Void on some spiritual level?

Perfect rulers don't exist, Sectonia's was her vanity, being royal allows you to live a pretty much perfect life, it's not hard to understand why she won't settle for anything less than second best.

isn't King D-Mind literally named "Black Dedede" in the files?

Why else would Taranza decide that a Mirror is the perfect gift?

He's called something like "Black Masked Dedede", probably because he essentially functions as a Masked Shadow Dedede.
Within context of the actual game though, he's referred to as "King D-Mind"

No, the Hyper Zone exploded.
Dark Matter was on Pop Star before the Hyper Zone has. If there were any sort of remnants of him left in the Rainbow Islands from when he died the first time, Haltmann could have gotten his hands on it.
That fight's directly based on Shadow Dedede's from TDX, so that makes sense.

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because he was thinking with his dick

>We will never officially get Nigga Dedede in the mainline games
It hurts.

I'm really started to fall down the rabbit hole that is Kirby lore. I'm scared anons.

Don't be scared, Kirby lore and Kirby threads are genuinely some of the only good things on Yea Forums left. Hopefully we'll have a good few months before the trannyposting hits Kirby.

Kirby lore is surprisingly deep, despite the shortness of his games and the cutesy looks. The joke started because most final bosses are universe ending horrifying primal forces and HAL kinda adopted the meme and had Kirby defeat the literal strongest warriors of the universe.

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Just go play something comfy like Epic Yarn to snap yourself out of it.
And don't think about how Yin-Yarn's body is actually the needles

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If you want to stretch it, the Japanese wiki claims that the Dark Matter seen in the Hyper Zone is the same one from Dream Land 2.
However, the games don't make it totally clear outside of Dark Matter using both forms whenever it shows up and the Dream Land 3 one (and the ones Zero makes during its fight) being the only "traditional" Real Dark Matter designs .

It's not as much as the memes would lead you to believe, but it's still very much a thing.

Start of with something simple, like King Dedede.

Void is an eternal primordial entity that spawns everything else.
Void Termina is the Void being filled with negative energy and becoming a lord of destruction that obliterates worlds.
It's heavily implied that Kirby is the Void being filled with positive energy and simply becoming a friend that wants to laze in the sun.

Why the fuck did Yin-Yarn give such a shit about Dream Land again?

Then how did Kirby beat Void?

He's greedy and wants power, but he's content to just be the beloved king of Dreamland
He tried to usurp Kirby's food before but realized Kirby could kick his shit in and quickly gave up on that dream, now he just helps defend Dreamland from cosmic threats alongside Kirby

oh, that should be fun

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Because he's a dick.
There really isn't any other reason.

So what is Zero in relation to the Void / Void Termina? Is Zero a negative energied Void?

Kirby had help, it was a 4 on 1.
Say what you will about gameplay but I'm pretty sure Star Allies wants to emphasize the benefits of friendship and teamwork to the end.

>Dream Land will be mine!
>...Not sure what I'll do with it, but I'll figure something out.
He's not a complex guy.

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that should be fun indeed

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it's gag manga power, the same thing that makes arale technically the strongest in dragon ball

basically for guys like sakurai and toriyama, the purest a character is the stronger it is

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It's implied that that's the case.
Void's name is literally a synonym for Zero.

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It's even more blatant in the Japanese version, Void is straight up named "Nil".

>Everything from his universe is a pushover.
No, they just SEEM like pushovers because of how much stronger Kirby is.

Pretty much. And it seems like it's almost predetermined for Void to develop into a new Zero given time. It seemingly requires external factors to not become like that.

I wouldn't be surprised if Star Dream/Galactic Nova/all the Clockwork Stars really, were made by the Halcandrans by replicating Void to the best of their ability. Everything leads back to the ancients, the Halcandrans, and Dark Matter/Void.
Doesn't Star Dream teleport in a vial with Dark Matter during the fight? Could be Haltmann got his hands on some during his travels and then Star Dream replicated that piece over and over, smushing it together to make Dark Matter Swordsman Clone.

Ok but watch this
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Either another incarnation of Void turned to darkness, or a form of matter (obviously dark matter) directly born from Void and only one step removed. It depends on if you think Zero is an advanced dark matter/dark matter boss or something that, itself, creates dark matter. If Zero is able to spawn dark matter, it is probably an expression of Void.

get ready for the lore:
>ancients are masters of technology
>they create wondrous machines of great power (nova, star dream and magolors ship, the lor starcutter) that can rip the universe asunder and delete souls and other crazy shit
>banish hyness for using dark magic in a world of science
>the jamba heart gets sealed by four heroes
>one of said heros is aeon hero, also known as galatica knight
>aeon most likely gets corrupted by a jamba heart and gets sealed away in a crystal outside the laws of time and space
>ancients get wiped out, only leaving a few bits and pieces behind on halcandra
>magolor seems to know about nova and their existance
>landia was guarding the master crown, which apart of void was lurking inside which is why magolor went crazy
>the master crown is used by void in some of his attacks
>morpho knight as some kind of connection to the ancients, possibly one of the four heros like aeon or some kind of rival to aeon
>morpho was sealed in the form of a butterfly that seems to follow Kirby and friends around
>magolor's clothing is similar to hynesses appearance
>ancient tech and magical beings are the only things that can summon aeon hero, better known as galatica knight from his prison
>galatica being trapped in time makes it so he can never truly be defeated, each time you meet him it'd be his first fight from his perspective

also sectonia's true from was basically taranza untill she encountered a mirror that corrupted her mind, but that isn't related.

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>live in a world filled with yarn beings
>leave yarn dimension just to turn new place into yarn dimension
>Could take over yarn dimension instead, but instead just throws randos into his sock like it's a trash can

Astral Birth reincarnates as Kirby, that's why beating him gives you old school Kirby and the bonus level is the first level of Dreamland 1
The series is a time loop

Do we know for sure whether she was always queen or not? I always figured she only became a ruler after she got her power and just enslaved everyone

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>If Zero is able to spawn dark matter, it is probably an expression of Void.
One of Zero's attacks is to create miniature versions of Dark Matter to shoot at Kirby and Gooey.
It and Zero Two are also the cores of the Hyper Zone/Dark Star respectively. The background even speeds up whenever the fight changes (Dark Matter to Zero, Zero to Zero's Eye).

There is lore stating that she was a fair and kind ruler before Taranza screwed the pooch.

This may seem like a retarded question, but in the past I've realized it's apparently a genuine point of dissent among various communities: Is Zero Two explicitly the revived/undead version of Zero, or is it possible they are two separate but similar entities?

maybe, but it'd be more likely that he'll be a creature like Kirby or maybe gooey.

I think the dark matter family arc is finished for the time being, we have zero info on the weapons of legend.

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She probably wasn't originally queen, but Taranza and Sectonia might have lived in Royal Road with the old queen as servants or something.

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>Dedede had a limiter holding him down
>that's why he was pretty weak up until TD, when Taranza removed said limiter through mind washing
>from TD onwards, Dedede gets stronger to the point where he became to be one of the strongest beings on Pop Star
deepest lore

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same thing, just revived

>Kirby's stomach was described as a pocket dimension in Squeak Squad
>Being swallowed by Kirby means being sent to a void in another dimension
What the actual fuck is this foreshadowing

one of the bits of armour actually references that sectonia's beauty form was actually one of sectonia's close friends, I think it was the sectonia flask or mask

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in Triple deluxe it's a black hole, the laws of reality don't exist there

It went without saying before, but HAL's been acting coy about it lately. The anniversery booklet states that Zero has an "unknown connection" to Zero Two and Dark Nebula/Dark Zero because of their similar names/attributes. Granted, Void basically confirms it anyway.
Then you get stuff like the Japanese wiki, which has to classify the Kirby 64 Dark Matter seperately, since they're technically only Dark Matter-related in the english versions (even though it's painfully obvious that they're related).

Didn't Dedede get eaten in the anime and see a universe?
Granted, it's the anime, but still.

Are you sure? I'm seeing wikis that are stating different things. With how Taranza acts though you'd think he was always royalty and by extension Sectonia

I want to see Mario pilot a mech that isn't the one from Paper Jam.

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>With his limiter he got sucked into a blackhole and survived
>He TRAINED himself to inhale and hover like Kirby

I want an entire Kirby game set in the mirror world, where you play as Shadow Kirby and everything is needlessly edgy like it's Eversion.

>Didn't Dedede get eaten in the anime and see a universe?
Yes. In the anime, all things eaten by Kirby go to an alternate universe inside his body. Kirby is also able to remotely access every single thing he has ever eaten.

>starts edgy
>gets cute and peaceful at the end
I like it.

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>using wikis
Well, there's your mistake.
Just from memory, the closest I can remember is the "Sectonia and Tarana were once good friends" line from TDX, but that has nothing to do with her being queen or not.
Also, I remember one of the Miiverse interviews about TDX mentioning that Sectonia got the body before being queen.

Got both right here.
>A glass modeled after the queen who once ruled the people of the sky. Her obsession with her own beauty was magnified by a certain mirror to a tragic end.
>A lovely mask associated with a ravishing queen. Supposedly resembles an associate of hers from before she attained her great beauty.

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>tfw grew up with Kirby Superstar and Kirby's Dreamland
>years later realize Kirby is an unstoppable force of destruction
>he's also just a babby
>Thank the heavens he fights for good and just wants delish snacks

Videogames are weird.

I want to fuck kirby

>Shadow Kirby makes the world a better place through his actions, teaching Shadow Dedede and Dark Meta Knight the meaning of friendship
I like it. A Shadow Kirby game should also be significantly harder than the normal game since Shadow Kirby is canonically weaker than normal Kirby in Amazing Mirror.

Actually, they could just make a regular Kirby game involving the mirror again, and then EX Mode is Mirror Mode, where you play through modified versions of the game's levels with harder bosses and enemies replaced by edgier shadow versions (wouldn't be as much work now as it would be in the past since Kirby games use models now).
I want to see Shadow Bandana Dee and what weapon they would give him instead of a spear.

Reminder that Marx nearly destroyed Popstar because he didn't eat his Snickers

maybe her friend was the true queen and she got jealous and taranza thought she looked good as she was but got her the mirror which then lead her obsessive behavior.

dark metaknight called her ulgeh and she straight up murdered her friend so the mirror would give her what she wanted.

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>bait thread
>becomes lore thread
I can dig it.

it's just a prank bro.

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actually, I think it went more like this

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Thats the beauty of Kirby threads. When there's new content to discuss, actual interesting discussion can happen. It's just a shame that overtime they attract a lot of attention from shitposters and baiters.

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>Sectonia Soul eats four of the super duper fruit that you use to become super
>Rips herself off the bean stalk to start attacking you directly in her turbo zombie mode
hal sure does know how to add that detail into their baby games

>Well, I want to control Pop Star!
>OK ->
>fucking rams his entire body into Pop Star
Clockwork Stars. Not even once.

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Taranza after figuring out DMK corrupted Sectonia vs Dark Meta Knight
who would win?

yeah taranza's an idiot, fell for their bullshit like 3 times.

and people call marx and magolor master manipulators.

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>Mr Dnimkrad
It gets me everytime

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I love how terrifying and goofy these stupid things can be at the same time so much

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This is probably my favorite meme from these threads.
This is probably a close second.

>squishy wizard vs BLOODBLOODBLOOD: The Character
no contest
Only twice.
The SKC fight only happened because the Kirby team saw a guy with horns and a cape and thought he was Nightmare

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What do you guys think are the chances the next Kirby game is Kirby's Mario Odyssey and we actually get a full-fledged meaty 3D Kirby game?

>Dnimkrad
Genius.

I dunno if HAL can just do a Odyssey quality 3D game right off the bat.
That said, they'll probably be doing something new.

Hal is hiring for Kirby at the moment, for people with experiance in HD game development or something like that, the next game is rumored to bring something new so it could be that.

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Is THIS why the ancients died out? Their shit kept going full retard after achieving sapience?

Dark Meta Knight is a fucking beast dude. Taranza relies mostly on hypnotic magic, which is how he "battled" in Triple Deluxe, by controlling Dedede.
Dark Meta Knight, on the other hand, has at least some level of control over the Dimensional Mirror and the Mirror World as a whole.

The official Planet Robobot OST even uses it as a small jumpscare.
This is Disc 1.

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>Fountain of Dreams ia a conduit for Nightmare Wizard to return
>NOVA goes on a crash course for Pop Star and has no qualms unleashing a genocidal warrior
>Star Dream is reactivated and repurposed by Haltmann, devours his memories and eventually his soul, decides to get rid of all organic life in the name of total prosperity
They do get points for the Star Rod, I suppose.

This is Disc 2, on the other side.

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Very high, the next game is supposedly part of a new "era" for Kirby and the final Void battle felt like a symbolic ending of Modern Kirby. Also, one of the celebration pics is called Farewell to Kirby and concept art of it implies that the sunlight Kirby was heading towards in it is the dimension/space with Void in it.

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ahhhhh

those comics are the best, I swear

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>We have gotten to the point in the franchise where Kirby just chills with Zero/Void Termina

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Not just that, but
>HiAD's level music was the last areas of the previous three games, plus Rainbow Resort
>the Arena rest area music leading up to Void had music from every single game with a Soul boss (including Canvas Curse), and the last song was from the last cutscene from Return to Dream Land
In any case, it's not like Yea Forums will care. Even if the next game plays absolutely nothing like the recent ones, Yea Forums will still call it more of the same unless it's something like Odyssey.

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>Mr. Dnimkrad, the jolly mirror fellow
not even once

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>A clockwork star will never OKAY > 3, 2, 1 your planet

Seeing an unholy giant clockwork cat bearing down on the planet rapidly would be something out of a fucking horror story. Especially with those soulless eyes.

t. didn't watch right back at ya

>more of the same
What's wrong with that, anyway? I understand the last four main Kirby games have been similar, but they were all excellent Kirby games in their own ways.
I play Kirby because I want a nice, easy game to lay back and enjoy myself with, and then panic and freak out at the final boss, and then gruelingly obsess over 100%ing it. The past four games have delivered on being enjoyable, fun, and especially fueling quality conversation and lore.
Not that I necessarily think every Kirby game should be a RTDL copy, but what's with the bitching about Kirby being samey? Why is it a bad thing that RTDL was excellent and HAL decided to expand on its presentation and engine in the next three games? It's not like they're NSMB-tier where you can't fucking tell which game is which because of the unoriginality.

Now that you mention it
In Kirby Super Star, it is possible to see Nova fighting both the Sun and the Moon at the same time. Were they Mr. Shine & Mr. Bright?

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everyone is a pushover in kirby because you're so powerful, you know that right?

>Copies Kirby's face and replicates the friend making ability in his own twisted way
>Sends out weird kirby/dark matter looking things that try to inhale you
>Void's full theme slowly turns into the original 8-bit kirby theme overtime
>Beating Astral Birth Void unlocks Classic Kirby
HMMMMM

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Not to mention the unholy cat screech just before impact

I always assumed that was the case, dunno if it was ever stated though.

nice headcanon

>headcanon
>literally does all that he listed in the battle
go away OP

i don't believe i came to any conclusions ma'am

>the game made by the creator of Kirby doesn't have accurate Kirby information

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>twisting facts to fit your headcanon
nice bait

>the game made by the creator of Kirby doesn't have accurate Kirby information
source then? Also, this might have been rebooted anyway, because of Robobot.

Hopefully all the retarded "lorefags" that failed to see the irony of the meme all cry and fuck off when the next mainline game is another normal 2D platformer.

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wait a second is that....oh my god

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I want the four ancient heroes to be clarified on, and whether or not Meta Knight and/or Morpho Knight are related to them.

I occasionally see screenshots where Void's face takes on that silhouette, but I don't know if they were faked or just something I didn't notice.

but then who was phone?

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The entire point is to be speculation bait. It's not made to actually mean anything

youtube.com/watch?v=3DyA-aeUsss
>Void starts with Kirby's face
>Void Soul creates small Voids, that happen to have Dark Matter's petals
>Astral Birth Void's theme devolves into 8bit Green Greens
>Beating the Void literally unlocks Classic Kirby
fucking retarded shitposter, that is the only and last (You) that you'll get from me.

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>Again twisting the truth
I'm glad you're not posting here again. You wont shit up kirby threads anymore with your ironic "lore" shitposting

i.imgur.com/976TaRA.png
youtube.com/watch?v=Dee2BAnvkjA
In the youtube link you can see that each tree section is about Kirby's height and 20 of them equals 5 meters, making the individual sections .25 meters which lines up with that also.

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>This is what the "Master Crown can't possibly be related to Dark Matter noooooooo" posters do nowadays
kek

>assuming shit based on nothing because you want your DUUUUDE KIRBY IS ACTUALLY A DARK MATTER GOD OF THE UNIVERSE XD meme to be real
God I fucking hate /r/Kirby raiders

I like the lore and I too enjoy simple platformers from time to time. I did enjoy Blowout Blast for what it was, for example. You did enjoy Blowout Blast, didn't you, user? You're not simply shitposting just for the sake of shitposting, right user?

i'm still lurking have another one
sorry it's kinda shit, but the thread's almost dead and i had to do it fast

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What parts of the truth is he twisting?
He literally just states what happens

see
Don't worry. The /r/Kirby ass lore memers will fuck off once the next mainline game is revealed.

He isn't twisting any of it, the Kirby fandom just has this retarded segment that screeches in horror at the thought of anything being implied instead of explicitly told to them. They need Kumazaki on twitter to confirm x or y to accept reality, it's hysterical.

Kirby isn't tied down to the constraints of being a normal ass person.

>OP is now backpedalling to "everything I don't like is reddit"
pffftt. Good thing this thread is dead.

weak bait

>another Kirby thread destroyed by the confirmed /r/Kirby raiders
It's a shame that Super Kirby Clash and it's actual game discussion didn't scare them away for very long

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based as fuck user. keep it up

heh I like it.

No, but that's because he's living in what amounts to an extremely elaborate Fischer Price playset and is moderately powerful, not a godslayer.

shit bait dude, try harder.

New game to trigger headcanon cucks WEN

hey it least their better then you-know-what posters.

Do you mean... THE CHART?

Dare I.....

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>everything I don't like is reddit
get cancer and die faggot

spoken like a true raider

Reminder that everyone who claims all "lore" is bait is just a Marx or Dee rosterfag who feel like any other character being important to the story is going to magically hurt their fave's chances at getting in Smash so they feel a need to downplay it 24/7.

it's a nice small touch how astral birth void doesn't even bother going for your friends. There's also something bittersweet about how in his full bad orb form the game talks about his reincarnation into a better life

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>he thinks the chart is some kind of shocking, thread-derailing thing
that thing is ten years old everyone's seen it by now
i wouldn't be surprised if HAL even knows about it

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You know...I had(still having) fun with this game and enjoyed all the bosses and remixes. I'm going to spare 10 bucks in support. Great improvement over the 3ds version

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no I was talking about borb posters, never ever under any circumstances should you bring up that forbidden cursed image

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I love metaknight

You've just summoned them
You fucking idiot.

the threads dying anyway.

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reminder kirby's power is so infinite and universe destroying, he can wield literally any power somebody has no matter what rules are applied. he can wield the monado, use the powers of literally anyone. imagine what other "chosen one" weapons and powers he can steal: Thor's Hammer, the infinity gauntlet, the dark hado powers, Goku's ki, Superman's solar energy, Saitama's strength, Godzilla's nuclear energy, Kenshiro's quickness, satan's hellfire, god himself. hell he could probably copy any Jojo characters stand. literally nothing stands a chance against him if he's able to become and preform just as powerful as his opponent MULTIPLIED by his own universe ending powers

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Who cares really. I mean, your funeral.
WTF BROS I THOUGHT WE 4CHANNERS WERE BASED
OHNONONONONO

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>everything is cute
>therefor it's weak
edge

and he has a KNIFE.

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Reason to add a smash board #63823873283823

EVERYONE IS HERE that Matters

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tell you what, when they add an e-celeb circle jerk twitter screencap board then they can make a smash board to their hearts content.

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>taranza
>mattering
>forgetting about pitch, nago and chu chu
laughing_mage_sisters.jpg

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NOVA was some god machine or something. And fuck knows what Marx was.

Sakurai just likes jacking it to his pink waifu.

literally a 5 year old posted this

>sakurai
user, I...

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Marx is a fucking asshole.

Bullshit. The mage sisters don't matter. It ahould have been hyness like they planned originally

its ok no one remembers dreamland 3

this piece of shit got away with summoning a cosmic device of untold power and basically your a fucking moron

...click here to find out more.

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