Alright guys lets admit it

They'd both benefit from taking ques from each other more.
Japan will never make narrative on par with RDR2. America will never make a game as fun as BotW.

>rdr 2
>botw
Jesus christ cunt get some taste
I bet you love Game of Thrones too

And 99% of all US games have a generic fantasy world and Hollywood-tier story (or completely shit story, because the game focuses more on open world and sidequests).
Both can be equally great or shit. Totally depends on the game.

Generic western spaghetti is not a impresive narrative.

Swap them

Mass Effect

dead

mmmm all those words in my mouth. thanks for adding all of them to my sentenced

>Japan will never make narrative on par with RDR2.
you're right, japan's kino stories are way better than that shit.

Why do mods never delete East vs West threads when they are the very definition of flamewar/faboyism that is against the rules?

at least you shat on both and did't show generic Japanese bias like/v/ is so boring with their drone nip mentality

Makes you win. | Lets you win.

you didn't even try to hide it

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What else is there to discuss? 80% of the faggots here do nothing but participate in shit weeb threads that are just thin excuses to post shit-tier porn.

T. Only played ff13

I enjoy reading the rants some of the more explosive tubro autists get into, no other sote would have me read a debate about how Saga Frontier is for casual scum

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>AAA JAPANESE GAME

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>one game

Christ just look at that character design. Have jap devs literally evolved at all since 1990?

>AAA WESTERN GAME

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Japan was the first country that made a video game with plot, Donkey Kong.

God that game is a mess above and beyond

both RDR2 and FFXV are garbo. Sure if you want to watch a western movie you could watch RDR2 but it's not really a video game

name at least one soulful game made in the us

>polish indie game in alpha

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was that released before wizardry?

What would make it a "video game" user. You fags started using this shit when BotW dropped in early 2017 but you don't even know what you're talking about. There's a long story sure, but there's tons of stuff to interact with, level up and collect. Before I even started chapter 2 of the game I had logged in 40hrs by doing sandbox actives, getting better horses and equipment that was engaging.

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is witchfire it's name? what platforms?

There were entire text games like Zork long before Donkey Kong

found it. hope it gets a good launch. looks cool

What are some western games with good stories that aren't movies?

Wasnt this announced ages ago? I havent heard hide nor tail since that Game Awards trailer

World in Conflict

Why not take best of both worlds and make a game with an intriguing world and a good story?

Came here to post this. As much as I love jarpigs they dont really world build.

Basically what >477879272 said but he was crucified for praising a game that Yea Forums culture doesn't want to acknowledge

Actually letting me control the character and not giving me control restraints for blatantly cinematic reasons in certain areas

Yes, because I only play games to be reminded of just how boring life truly is

>story
When the west can make a successful murder mystery series like AA or Danganronpa, I'll start consider them to be competent at writing.
Still can't believe that there's no one western writer who is good enough to make a Ace Attorney-like game since fucking 2001.

It's just a VN with simple menu-based gameplay. You don't even need to hire voice actors.
If budget clearly isn't a issue for this to happen, it must be talent.

BEEP BEEP

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>dark souls
>logic or consistency

LMAO this noob hasnt actually played the games and only watches *lore* videos on youtube

Game of Thrones was good until season 4. People who like BotW probably liked GoT right up until the last or 2nd last episode though, just mindless sheep who follow whatever the internet tells them is cool.

Fixed

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>Japan
>Good gameplay
Nah.

Saying "FUCK" 50 million times doesn't count as a good story.

botw is literally skyrim with ubisoft towers you sperg

>America
>Any gameplay
Roving Every Raff

Americans only know one world and that's Tolkein's mediveal fantasy copy and pasted a million times. Americans just can't think of anything different than your vanilla orcs, goblins, and trolls.

>Atmosphere
Disagree

Fixed it for you, baby

Don't worry, I do it for free

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>Japan
Video games
>America
Political garbage

This desu

>America
>story
I dunno, VNs do exist

Metal
Gear
Solid
did i just destroy your poor weeb brain. jap games are political

Japan
>focuses on politics within the game's world

America
>only focuses on politics in the real world

Beat me to it.

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sorry, I don't think the Americans are good at anything compared to Japan regarding vidya.

Jesus fuck, no.

user i can not even begin to describe why you are retarded.
hey at least they do more than your country

Character creation, not sure why Japs are so adverse to it. There's a few notable games that have it, but in Western games its a way more common feature.

assblast already getting started

only dungeon crawlers really have those in jap games. Stuff like etrian odyssey. Due to them being based off of wizardry and DnD

Probably because you have no arguments

America hasn't made a good game in years, let alone a good story

Well there's Soulsborne games, Dragon's Dogma, MMO related like Phantasy Star too.

user how is the story of the dismantlement of nuclear weapons anything BUT political. Do you think 2 had no political commentary too!?
well mmos are the obvious exception to the no character creator rule

Yeah but nobody is ever gonna mention drumpf and racist maymays in a jap game, at the very least not like western devs do.

I can't think of a single recent American game with character customization

Again, no argument

Halo is a great example of western vidya. Amazing storywriting, cool universe, great soundtracks, bad gameplay

>it only counts if its about drumpf. Racism stories where never in games like radiant Dawn.
>talking about the political message when you said it doesn't have one is not an argument.
Yes facts are not always arguments

also, 20 years ago

Souls and DD aren't MMOs

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>Amazing storywriting
>Duke Nukem as Master Chief blasts different aliens than usual
>FLOOD
I don't agree

yes but phantasy star online is. i was talking about just that one with mmos. sorry

The most political view you can get out of MGS is anti-war/anti-nuke

so politics in games.

Holy fucking BASED

Halo stopped having a good story when 343 took over

there's a whole lot more going on in halo than duke nukem. There's multiple arcs and they blend together pretty well.

>bad gameplay
faggot

i agree

See And

He's not complaining about them being unrealistic, he's complaining about them not even making sense within themselves.

Yeah as we all know, the western Silent Hill games is where the series really picked up from that japanese trite.

Absolutely retarded argument. There is a clear difference between using real world history as inspiration for a game's setting/plot, versus a poorly written piece of fiction that is primarily used as a heavy-handed push for some real world political agenda. People who complain about "political garbage" are obviously referring to the later. Metal Gear Solid wasn't trying to get real world laws passed

Reality

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>danganronpa
>competent writing
LOL. jesus christ weebs are so fucking stupid.

objectively superior to realism

>outlier

>story
TRANNIES GOOD
WHITE STRAIGHT MAN BAD
ACCEPT NON WHITES
ACCEPT IMMIGRATION
BORDERS BAD

Based

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West actually does REALLY good world building
Japan does better game levels.
but america does better level design aesthetically.
I would also argue that japan integrates story into gameplay better too.

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Why are some of you associating the American flag with "the West" and not the USA?

cute girls and gameplay, west gets everything else right.
sadly cute girls and gameplay is all I care about.

because the divide is east and west.
Korean and Taiwanese games have similar design principles as Japanese games.

I'd be mad that jannies would delete such a good thread but it brought me so much joy that I can't. Watching him crash and burn in real time was glorious

>He says this when tes exists

>Generic medieval fantasy setting
Holy shit mind = blown

By comparison, it's good. I was arguing Japan has better videogame story writers than the west.

Tell me what western game that can form a equally successful story-focusing franchise then. You can't.

>People actually defend generic nip shit

>>People actually defend generic nip shit

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Any MGS runs rings around RDR2 and to top it off HAS ACTUAL GAMEPLAY

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