WoW Classic's future

4) As a general rule, where deviations from classic design paradigm can now be judged as making the game worse, fixing these mistakes would also please most fans of those specific expansions.
5) Aside from fixing undesirable deviations from "classic design", there are a lot of unquestionable issues with the expansions that go outside this scope. For example, a major problem in TBC progression is the fact that T6 is easier than even post-nerf T5 (which people often confuse to catchup gear being too powerful). It would also be too easy considering better players now. These sort of mistakes can also be fixed, making the expansions directly better.
6) In the process of doing these revamps, you also make the expansions feel fresh.Fans of the expansions will get to hear those Karazhan organs or fight Algalon the Observer, the things people do care about when they say they like the expansion, but things like new theorycrafting (for Wrath at least, seeing as that its class homogenization efforts is one of those mistakes that clearly needs to be reversed) would keep the experience somewhat fresh.

The biggest issue about flying mount is how it essentially killed WPvP.

Resilience is another major mistake TBC had.

TBC was good to me overall.

>Implying Blizzard are competent enough to do any of these well

any. but fix end game for the love of subs

You will sit in your contentless game while spamming for an invite to asmon layer and you will like it. That'll be $15

True classic is the most retarded idea.

I'd like classic+
But on the other hand I would like to be a deathknight.

I never got to play much of WOTLK but when I was a kid in retail vanilla I always wanted to be a deathknight, I really liked playing them in warcraft 3 aswell as dreadlords.

i would kill for lich king pvp again
the feel dude
probably i wouldnt play it cause i love the memories

>The biggest issue about flying mount is how it essentially killed WPvP.
No it didn't. Supermajority of PvP encounters take place, not when you're traveling from point A to B, but when people contest a limited resource like a farming spot or access to instance entrance. These elements are present in TBC to pretty much exactly the same degree as they are in vanilla, it's just Skettis Mafia over Devilsaur Mafia or Elemental Plateu over Tyr's Hand.

The major impact of flying was not realized until Wrath, the premier raidlogging-stay-in-Dalaran simulator. Now there is no farm to contest, you get summoned inside raids, you can queue to dungeons from the safety of Dalaran, and because nobody's grounded, the last possible opportunity to have world PvP would be to assault those few guys traveling to raids to pop up summoning stone inside or something. But because of flying, that opportunity is denied too and world PvP is totallyd ead. Throw in hyperinflation making fast flying affordable to everyone, 225 skill mount speed being buffed, cast time being halved (which also means it's worth it to fly, not walk, between mobs, so the window of vulnerability is reduced even more than you might think at first glance), everyone and their mother gaining CC abilities that allow disengagement, etc.

This of course does show that flying was a shortsighted addition, but flying isn't INHERENTLY very impactful. The negative effects to world-PvP are non-zero, but as I tried to demonstrate, they were LOW, and in TBC it also enabled outlandish world design, it was used as an actual mechanic, etc, and those benefits compensate for the harms.

The change with biggest impact to world PvP was 1.5.0 anyhow. The second would be change in player mindset ("it's red it's dead" -> "even if I win the fight, I lose time and gain literally nothing of value").

>resilience
Please explain your problem with it. I'm pretty sure that it's going to be a problem with Wrath implementation.

I honestly really do like the idea of classic+. The more I think about it, the more I realize that the entire expansion model just doesn't really work for a social game like Wow. Adding more level 60 content might actually be the way to go, especially if the gear obtained through that new content is defined more by its usability rather than raw power.

The problem however is that in doing such a thing, it would essentially be a continuity reboot of Warcraft. An idea that I like in theory, but rarely actually works. You only need to look at the complete mess that is the comic book industry for proof of how quickly such a thing can go awry.

No, what I think would work best is if they just took whatever lessons they learned from retail and classic and made a new World of Warcraft game. One that actually knows if it wants to be a MMO, or a single player game with Co-Op dungeons and raids.

>The change with biggest impact to world PvP was 1.5.0 anyhow.
Is there any way to get around that though? Besides removing battlegrounds altogether, obviously.

> The second would be change in player mindset
I think that has more to do with the fact that the reward is just crap most of the time. Honor just isn't that great of a reward, especially considering how much you need to buy anything good.

To play the superior version of the game of course. Look how awesome retail is compaired to your nostalgiafest

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Give me WotLK and I will be a happy user.

classic+ obviously. they'd be fools not to follow OSRS's formula

30+ people waiting for a rare spawn and a small chance at a mount. then logging out to play something else (most likely classic). repeat once per day

why does everyone hate flying?

The ones where they give paladins crusader strike and make blessings last 30 minutes. Everything else I could give to fucks about.

What content would you want the most from a Classic+ philosophy?

Flying ruined trivialized getting around, world pvp, and seeing the world. Even blizzard knows it was a mistake and they attemptes to undo it in WoD but their child like fan base kicked and screamed loud enough that blizzard caved and let people use flying again in WoD zones.

Outland, but with a actual good story.

Here comes all the retail and ff14 trannys to say the game is dead in a desperate attempt to save their game.

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FF14 is doing just fine. It's pretty much carved out its own niche as "Basically just a single player game with dungeons and raids".

Well, you could at least increase the importance of world content to compensate. Let's compare the importance of farming in TBC and Wrath:

Would you rather spend your time farming materials for this: tbcdb.com/?item=28442 or this: wotlk.evowow.com/?spell=55185 (that's the Weaponsmith BoP weapon in Wrath so I think in a sense it's the closest equivalent: there admittedly is also Titansteel Destroyer ilvl 200 epic, but that's realistically just as obsolete by the time you could get it due to better options being available from Wrath's trivial dungeons). Now compare material costs. Then account for the fact that you kill mobs overwhelmingly slower in TBC while even fresh 80s can pull areas of mobs and then cleave them down instantly -> less time spent farming for the same amount of mats. Then consider the fact that eternals in Wrath come primarily from Wintergrasp revenants which don't even spawn for the faction not holding WG to make absolutely sure enemies are definitely not going to contest your farm (and that's before you could buy them from Frozo the Renowned... in Dalaran)!

In which are you going to put yourself in the harm's way and in which case are you going to stay in Dalaran because there's literally nothing to be gained from the world content? When there's a reason to go out, when there's a reason to fight to contest limited mobs or something, you don't need PvP-oriented players to start fights. BGs might have eaten up most of the players who seek PvP encounters for the sake of PvP, but Devilsaur and Skettis mafias are still going to be a thing. A thing you could do is to add more such elements to the game.