I demand a Tales of thread right now
Tales of Thread
Christopher Gonzalez
Jack Hall
I want to FUCK Emil
Jaxson Phillips
Tales is a shit series.
Austin Taylor
Stop right there! Criminal scum!
Lincoln Smith
symphonia > vesperia > stinky poopoo shit > every other game in the franchise
Hunter Green
>snacklish mirror never ever
Christian Garcia
Ok normalfag
Matthew Williams
IT’S PANCAKE TIME
STALAGMITE
Adam Jones
Well firstly to contextualize why Zestiria was bad, it's important to note that Tales games get notoriously short deadlines to meet and their budget's not too great either.
Zestiria was very likely intended to have two branching paths, or at some point this was going to be a thing and didn't pan out. Initially the promotional artwork all showed Sorey and his staple 'female sidekick' being Alisha. Rose, who ends up actually filling this role in the final game, was apparently cast and voiced extremely late into development, likely because Baba could not decide which route the story should go (which girl to put the focus on entirely instead of only partially).
In the end, he decided to put all the importance and emphasis on Rose and abruptly shoved Alisha out of the story for random reasons whilst towns after she is gone, continue to sell her weapon as if she isn't basically absent until the very end of the game.
The reason most believe he focused on Rose was because Rose is just an insert OC based on her seiyuu, Mikako Komatsu, a woman who Baba has emphatically showered with creepy compliments in interviews. Many things about Rose's character profile also mirror Komatsu, and in-game she was even engaged to an arranged marriage with a man called Prince Conan, a reference to a nickname of Hideo Baba. Also Rose's "motto" is a reference to Komatsu's motto.
>The reason most believe he focused on Rose was because Rose is just an insert OC based on her seiyuu, Mikako Komatsu, a woman who Baba has emphatically showered with creepy compliments in interviews. Many things about Rose's character profile also mirror Komatsu, and in-game she was even engaged to an arranged marriage with a man called Prince Conan, a reference to a nickname of Hideo Baba. Also Rose's "motto" is a reference to Komatsu's motto.
Brayden Moore
Them making Rose and Alisha lesbians in the anime might have been a big "Fuck you, Baba" then holy shit is it a normal thing in Japan to use your position to try and smash? Dude tanked a game because he couldn't keep in his pants, What's even funnier is that Rose and Alisha in that Rays game hardly interact with Sorey but other tales of characters. Even in Tales of Asteria, Rose was first seen with Alivan of Tales of Xillia and Alisha seen with Llloyd, Pascal, Rua and Eizen from Symphonia, Graces, Innocence and Bearseria through I don't know if either game let the girls armaitize
He also let Komatsu absorb all of the blame on a Tales-fan livestream, she literally prostrated herself to the Tales fandom with Baba nowhere in sight thinking that all of the anger was her fault for usurping the heroine they originally marketed.
Mikako Komatsu, who voiced Rose in Tales of Zestiria.
There was a good deal of controversy over the game, as the originally advertised heroine ended up playing a really minor role, and Rose came out of nowhere and she was just as skilled as the protag, who was special because he grew up under a very specific situation. Apparently, the story was re-written to give Rose more spotlight because Baba had a huge crush on Komatsu. The public outcry, when all of it came to light, was enough that she had to dogeza in public and personally apologize.
All Baba had to say was that the advertisers were fucking retarded for thinking the original chick was the heroine in the first place.
Christian Diaz
>when komatsu appeared on a Tales fan show, she knelt on the floor begging the tales fandom for forgiveness for Zestiria's poor quality, and Baba was not present at that show either. He let her absorb the backlash like a coward.
someone post it
Andrew Murphy
Ryan Jackson
Any ToArise info?
Aiden Reyes
Alexander Perry
>Xillia will never get any form of anime adaption
>not even a fucking port to new consoles or PC
Hudson Wood
>Being hyped as anniversary tales
>only sold less than 350k in it's first week, xillia sold 550k, even xillia 2 sold more than 450k in it's first week
>second week sales drop, the biggest sales drop ever in tales franchise, 94% more drop
>the most return game to the store ratio ever for tales franchise, it's also the most returned game for all games in japan for 2015 (you can buy it for 100 yen, roughly 1$ on amazon japan store)
>The most hated tales of ever, japan really rage, angry, disappointed, and disgusted about this game, outburst at 2ch, yaraon, 2chan, NND and other outlets, spamming countless insult, harrasment, and hatred. Namco had to release the DLC of alisha for free because of that (and scrap other scenario DLC, because the rage is only getting bigger)
>The lowest rating tales of ever in amazon jp (probably the lowest rating game in japan of 2015)
>Have a whole wikipedia dedicated for it's shortcomings
>Death threat and harrasment to fujishima (rose and sorey character designer) so much that he had to delete his twitter
>Death threat to hideo baba and his family, harrasment and an attempt of murder? (it's reported that he got a packet containing some sulfur/acid adressed to him), so much that he become afraid and paranoid, he never appear on public again since his last interview for zestiria in april, which he got heavy backlash regarding alishia situation
>At his last interview baba is quoted saying "The Zestiria team that worked days and months throughout the past three years were truly heartbroken by all of this.?
>Terrorism threat at tales festival, the tales fes is guarded by a batallion of army and police, with baba nowhere on sight, he's not even there to announce new tales of berseria (baba usually the one who announce the new tales)
>Voice actress of rose doing dogeza and apologized for the fans and quoted saying "please let me join the tales family too", which only further enrages the fans because it was not Baba
Jace Adams
He takes a cut in pay and the loss in social status is HUGE. When you join a corporation in Japan, you basically join it for life. They will take good care of you if you do well by them. But if you fuck up like Baba did you will be given insultingly menial tasks (or nothing at all) to do until you quit on your own. He will likely never be trusted or allowed to do something important ever again. Social status earned from your job is a huge deal in Nippon- his shamefur dispray is going to haunt him for a very very long time. He'll be ridiculed and shunned for the rest of his time there no doubt. And no other company will take him in since he's a faithless ronin by leaving and has a public scandal attached to his name. He's dead (career-wise).
Brody Taylor
tell me about dawn of the new world, is it good?
Angel Bell
fuck no, maybe if it was standalone it would be a decent ~6/10 but even still the antagonists are pantsu on head retarded
also the world is small and the story is fucking terrible due to how it's fucking tied to the original symphonia
how annoyed you'll be by the MC and his walking onahole will depend on you
David Nelson
Kevin Nelson
My, aren't you an idiot? He got hired on by SE right after he left Namco. He fucked up there too.
Brandon Peterson
all of these posts are several year old reposts
Didn't Sqeenix set up a bunch of these small-scale studios to make assorted jRPGs since Final Fantasy proves Sqeenix really doesn't know what the hell the jrpg market wants anymore?
I didn't keep track of all of them. That Setsuna dev studio was one of them, though.
Squenix has been doing this for A LOT OF TIME, they are fucking leeches and use underhanded methods, seriously, read up what happened to GRIN (the now defunct company who made Bionic Commando rearmed and 2009)
To sum it up they got the hopes up of the entire company saying they wanted a huge FF project, gave no clear indication on what the fuck they wanted, they just wanted something open world, once GRIN did the initial sketches, concept ideas, etc, Squenix started sending specific instructions on what and how they wanted things when things already began moving forward leaving everyone on GRIN clueless. Then, started faxing documents in bad quality, asking for several things, sometimes contradicting themselves, reviewing things that GRIN made in a bad light, someone from there got suspicious, sent them the very same document Squenix sent them and told them "how is it going" and Squenix said it was a bullshit idea, etc, pretty much acknowledging that they weren't reading shit and were just bashing them just because they could.Either way they got royally fucked because they spent a lot of money on this project, and Squenix bailed out by cancelling everything with no remuneration at all.
Aiden Evans
Can't wait to buy Arise. Had a lot of fun with these two
Yes I enjoyed Zestiria :)
Ryan Ortiz
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