Why do WoW classic player hate this race so much?

Why do WoW classic player hate this race so much?

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They don't hate the race itself. Them being allied with Horde is the problem.

Aw man I have this sudden desire to masturbate instead of paying any attention at all to the thread or OP.

I don't want no damned dirty elves in my horde. Alliance can keep them, give me ogres with 40 IQ

Ita alliance babies crying that they never got their special snowflake blue eyed elves. So they rerolled and came to the horde, and they played green eyed elves, but got salty still the eyes wernt blue and they couldnt rp in goldshire or gank 5 v 1 anymore so they just ruined the horde woth their presence instead. If you play alliance you deserve castration.

Because they're essentially pretty humans, so they can't say
>play fantasy game
>pick humans
So they have to suffer all the faggots playing dress up and they can't say shit about it.

Elves are faggy and deserve to be hated. Night Elves got a free pass for being akin to Drows, but Blood Elves are pretty much just regular-ass elves and are, therefore, huge faggotrons.

Any savagery the blood elves had was lost at the end of BC, causing them to lose the only thing that made them interesting in a faction filled with interesting races.

Playing a horde means you're willing to roleplay as an abomination and have given up on life for the game. Playing horde as a blood elf means you want horde cred while basically playing a human with long sexy ears

Post her feet pls

I don't. I just don't like them being in the Horde like this user said Ideally, I would want a loose confederation of all Elf races. That included Night Elves (including Nightborne), Blood Elves and Void Elves.

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damn that guy checking her ass out

I enjoy big ass panda women

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blizzard ruined the blood elves by making liadrin

Pretty sure what you're describing is just 13 year old Forsaken players. Orcs/Tauren/Trolls are hardly abominous.

>Night Elves got a free pass for being akin to Drows
Dude, how the fuck are Nelves and Drow at all similar?

Too bad they look like inbred trash in-game.

This idea can only end in disappointment because Blizzcucks would never allow elven racial supremacy in their liberal wonderscape.

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Always good to see Ken workin outside of music.

I rolled a Paladin Blood Elf and the amount of butthurt was off the charts.

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how could this happen?!

whatever man just post more horde slags

They don't, it's just that all the kids and the trash players flock to that race. They're doing it with undeads now too.

I have never in my entire neet life seen an image that is both ugly and curiously makes me interested in seeing porn from the artist. Fucking bravo Yea Forums you delayed me from shitposting in a cunny thread or save the princess thread for about 3 minutes.

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>tfw they fixed paladins in BC/Wrath only to ruin them again

oooooh fuuuck yeah

But I thought Blizzcucks loved Elves more than their own race in WoW. The game's elves have became iconic.

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Because elves exclusively belong on the side of humans so their men can marry them

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>Those ugly-ass sausage fingers
lmao do retailcucks seriously fap to this?

those aren't sausage fingers you retard

But if all humans marry and impregnate their Elf waifus, there will be no more Elf waifus for the future generations. Only mutts.

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Because it should have been Blood Elves for Alliance & Goblins for Horde

Blood elfs didn't fit Horde and their inclusion made no sense
Their playerbase is retarded

This

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I have 2 issues with the bloodelves. First them being horde is not really correct. I mean I get it horde gets a pretty race and alliance gets a monster race with draeni though the females are like ultra babes sorta defeating the purpose the other issue is the are like 60% of the horde despite being in lore like 20k in existance. Arthas wiped out 90% of the elves and of those 90% of the surviors became blood elves.
>inb4 hurr durr lore doesnt matter
A near dead race shouldnt be the most populated. The reason high elves were playable is they are to few in numbers and it would immersion breaking. So blizzard just add shit like the mantid and snek people ill play those guys.

>tfw no isekai or any fanfiction about that

Oh God, Mommy..... ... Mmmmm...

Would it have been better if furfag worgen switched factions with blood elves.

I hate the players, they're 99% subhumans with garbage opinions. The only people who should play blood elves are those who recognize and enjoy who they are from Warcraft 3.

>I mean I get it horde gets a pretty race
The in-lore explanation is that Lor'Themar feels obligated to Sylvanas for the defence she put up against Arthas back then. But he can't possibly be ok with collaborating with Undead (the greatest irony of them all since it was Undead/Scourge that attacked the High Elves) AND watching them attack and kill other Elves AND destroy and burn to the ground a fucking World Tree.

All of these make him either a cuck or a fucking retard, no matter how "level-headed" you describe him to be. He has become irrelevant.
Which is a shame because he looks fucking badass.

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There should have been a 3rd faction.

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When they actually let Lor'Themar do things he's pretty cool. I genuinely wish he'd be the next warchief even though it won't happen

Random question, in lore who is actually stronger between High/Blood Elves and Orcs?

I remember in one of those shitty canon books of theirs I read like 15 years ago they revealed all the elves had super strength beyond that of any human and had one of them pick up a boulder and toss into the sky like it was a toy.

Skin colour

Well when I said I get it I meant from a meta example the reason blizzard made BElves horde. Its so they get a pretty race. They could had written a thousand reasons for them to be alliance. Or kept them NPC with illidan and gave alliance Helves. Or none of that. I recall reading some lore that the belves dont really wanna be horde but they feel forced and shit. Along with jainia chimping out or some shit. The thing that bugs me far and away the most with the horde and everything unrelated wise is just the forsaken. They act like freed undead but every single interaction in lore ive ever seen has them being effectively sylvanis's slaves. I mean fuck any time a civie wants to move to alliance lands to like live with thier living family the alliance seems alright with it but sylvanis acts like a bitch and has them killed. Like thats such a petty and dickish move.

I've never heard of Elves having super strength. The only race I read having weird strength is Goblins, one of the books mentions that Goblins are basically stronger than humans

I think it was the Day of the Dragon book where they rescue Alexstrasza from her endless rape. One of the Windrunner sisters casually picks up a boulder and tosses it into the sky and the humans are all like "wow...how what..."

Orcs are the strongest, Blood Elves are the most dexterous.
And not Elves are the same. Night Elves are, on average, goddamn 2.08 meters tall. They are easily the strongest of the Elves.

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>tribal band of primitive savage races
>now have 10k old sophisticated elder race join them ON EQUAL terms, no internal conflict whatosever
pick 1. Belfs could work in horde if they were written differently as disgusting degenerates willing to do anything to survive, but instead they are just usual good willed high elfs which for some reason decide to fight in orc ranks for absolutely no reason.

but in all other respects they're just faggy tree lovning regular elves and not at all like Drow.

WOW kind of "subverts" some expectations with classic fantasy races. Like humans are supposedly the best mages in lore.

UUUUUUUUUUUUGHHH
PLEASE STOPPPP I'M GONNA COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM

That's the same book where they mention that Goblins are also super strong, if I remember correctly.

Elves should be their own faction.

That way, both Horde and Alliance can gang up on the retards with impunity when the elves outnumber them 2:1.

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cause horde fags are childish niggers who are insecure about their own masculinity
I admit that their lore in wow sucks ass tho
that shit doesn't make any fucking sense

yeah but a lot of the faggocity of regular elves comes from them being really hot, feminine looking regular humans with knife ears, so just giving them a darker pigmentation to make them look less like a self-insert race helps

The truth user is that the Forsaken and the Horde under Sylvanas have became Scourge 2.0.
I mean....PLAGUES? Are you fucking kidding me? Are these the "underdog", "grey" race that they describe them to be?

It was fine before they completely sanitized them after TBC. When Blood Elves were intended to be pretty on the outside but twisted and rotten within they worked fine on the Horde as allies of convenience. When Silvermoon was a creepy police state with patrolling robots, slave labor and magisters that brainwashed dissidents in the streets. Now they're literally just High Elves with green/gold eyes and it makes no sense.

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>make waifu humans
>post actual pic that emphasis this
>"why do people hate it?"
peak zoomer brain

UHHHH *FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP* AHHHH I'M GONNA COOOOM

AHHHHHHHHHHHH I AM COOM-ING
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>tfw read lore that apparently the average blood elf female is physically stronger than a warcraft human male
>a fucking warcraft human male, the race that look like herculean gods

god damn I hate elves and their mary sue traits

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Why is vempire so fucking perfect, bros?

Its just sad what happened to the night elves, the bastion of the civilization and now act like dogs and ruled by a human king, the nigger race of azeroth. Thanks Blizzard

Dont forget the bloodelf/nightelf npcs in horde/alliance armor ..wtf

because you're a semenskull coombrain who can't see that all his faces are the fucking same and he's a shit-tier artist

Every retard undead and every retard alliance who thinks they are too good for the alliance went blood elf.

Go orc or go home faggots.

I'd imagine it's because they're on magic crack and supposedly have low numbers.

its less about the race and more about the people who play them

Goblins are basically like chimpanzees. They aren't that big but they'll rip your dick and your wallet off for no reason.

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They are magical creatures.

And try several times stronger too. Pretty sure if they fight there's really nothing the humans can do, if we treat the Warcraft movie as canon like they want it to be then the only reason humans win against Orcs is that they can be more maneuverable than them. But with the elves they have humans beat on quite literally every level, they just can't win at all. Humans would have to swarm them with numbers and if Vereesa's super strength is any indication she could literally kill several with one swing so...fuck.

I used to love them back in WC3.
but WoW pretty much ruined them and turned them into a "oh im so prettty look at me" running joke, whilst the females became literal sluts judging from their voicelines.
They also look nothing like they did in WC3. they made them too pretty.

Blood elf make no sense lorewise it also make no sense that arthas did not murder every single blood elf in their main city when you actually did that in the WC3 TFT campaign. The only Blood elf that should be alive are those in Outland.

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HATE ELVES

This was ours user. Never forget.
Blame that whore Azshara for forming pacts with demons and Old Gods.

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I mean ya WoW made the elves sound like total sluts unlike in WC3...
youtube.com/watch?v=B8NOJa2DwIs

Theres plenty outside Silvermoon though, even after the undead campaign the humans still field priests and sorceress'. Arthas decimated the capital is all.

>they made them too pretty.
this is a trend with all elves. They're supposed to be evolved from nocturnal predators, they could stand to look a little more animalistic.

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the fuck are you about
blood elves are still pretty fucking evil lorewise

Let’s see we have Alliance that have:
Human
>Normal (Stormwind)
>Worgen
>Kul Tiran
Dwarves
>Normal (Bronzebeards)
>Darkiron
Elves
>Night Elves
>Void Elves
Draenei
>Normal (Darnassus)
>Lightforged
Gnomes
Pandarens

For the Horde we have:
Orcs
>Greenskins
>Mag’har
Trolls
>Darkspear
>Zandalari
Elves
>Blood Elves
>Nightborne
Tauren
>Normal
>Highmountain
Forsaken (Human)
Goblins
Pandaren

Human faction count: 4
Elven count: 4
Dwarven count : 2
Orcish count: 2
Trollish count: 2
Draenei count: 2
Tauren: 2

What I like to know is why do elves get so much flack when another elven race is added when we have just as much humans?

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nigger there's a trailer of a human going toe to toe with a massive orc in the MoP trailer

fuck elves, fuck your magic, fuck your age, and fuck your mary sue traits, your race is shit and I'm glad you're constantly slaughtered

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I don't mind Blood Elves being pretty, thats their whole gimmick. Nice to look at, but they'll shank their grandma for a hit of mana. The problem is WoW steadily scrubbed out what made them interesting once the sunwell got fixed. What should have been WoWs Dark Eldar had all their drama solved in a patch.

Warcraft Elves are 7 feet tall and juiced on arcane and fel magic, Illidan was fucking shredded and while Kael always wore robes his shoulders are gigantic

Warcraft elves are not tolkien fairy waifs, they're closer to real life humans than the degenerated children of autistic robots cursed with flesh """humans"""" are.


They're pretty typical for Samwise's desiichoices: the dudes are all giga chads whether they wear a pimp robe or plate armor and the women are all enormous babes

This is the 2005 concept art of the race and what was used to advertise them on the expansion site and old race page

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GOD THEIR RACIALS WERE COMPLETE SHIT

>They're supposed to be evolved from nocturnal predators
They're evolved from Trolls with magic

Why do people think blood elves should be alliance when Jaina exterminating them would never make that happen?

At least Humans can do Arcane magic without fear of magical addiction thanks to their Titan heritage I guess.

2006 based Wei Wang art that convinced half the horde population to roll a blood elf paladin, although unfortunately there's no zettai ryouki Judgement skirt option in-game

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relax autismo

>Warcraft Elves are 7 feet tall and juiced on arcane and fel magic
Belves are smaller than humans, dude.

their males have the best voice acting

>Literally Chad and Stacy: The Race.

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>are like 60% of the horde
blame arcane torrent, not the playerbase
>b-but muh pretty race
no
META race

that doesn't disprove that statement

So what's the down side?

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>silence
>shit
Are you retarded?

Trolls aren't specifically nocturnal though. In fact not at all.

are you dumb? Mana Tap and Arcane Torrent are totally fine and the latter would go on to be the single best horde racial ever in both pve and pvp once blizz started pruning everyone's class CC.

At one point blood elf death knights could shit down a caster's neck with two death grip interrupts, arcane torrent, mind freeze, strangulate/asphyxiate and a ghoul stun while necrotic striking them the whole while

lo and behold
the ignorant zoomer
look at him, look at him and laugh

I thought that it was one of the most powerful racials in the game when it was introduced?

Because the orc was already hurt and tired.

You can see in the movie that orcs are basically hulk compared to humans.

We fixed the Sunwell in a joint alliance-horde effort. They literally owe their fealty to the human kingdoms. The whole fucking game is a farce to justify orc filth keeping their brute force hegemony in kalimdor

because they don't visually match the other horde races and only faggots play them

You literally play the last remaining blood elves in the Kael'thas campaign. Arthas slaughtered all the other high elves and some joined Garithos but they get slaughtered or turned in by Sylvanas. Honestly it makes no sense in classic that there are high elves in easter plague lands because they all got killed thats literally the point of Kael'thas campaign.

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Don't expect something logical from Blizzard with the story, they either don't care or dumb

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>You literally play the last remaining blood elves in the Kael'thas campaign.
No, you don't. Nobody ever says that. You're just playing as the Elves who fled with Kael'Thas.

Well I agree they were good I still stick with old will of the forsaken for being most OP. Beta will made them IMMUNE to like half the CC in the game. Even in release its lasted like 20 seconds when used. Insane.

What the Dreadlords did in The Frozen Throne to manipulate Sylvanas into position and bully the Blood Elves out of the Alliance is still the greatest act of evil perpetrated on Azeroth. The Horde serves Dreadlord interests and always has.

No they aren't, blood elves are 6'3 while humans are 6'1, and night elves are fucking 7'3

Even the hornet waisted belf females are actually taller than human females if you just compare models and not posture

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Wait... are you saying that Burning Crusade is part of Classic now? When did this happen?

>tolkien fairy waifs,
My nigger Fingolfin literally fought an evil god for days and he didn't need any demon roids for that. He'd easily make any Warcraft elf his buttslave

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I used to love Blood elves and have all of my characters as them.
But then they released the Nightborne.
And everything changed.
Suramar stands proud and free.

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Alliance vs Horde is a shitty fucking gimmick that's fundamentally flawed. It doesn't make sense. WoW is a joke.

Warcraft 4 when?

They don't need to drain the naaru anymore, they don't drain creatures for mana, they aren't openly drawing from fel and I very much doubt Silvermoon has public drug dens and sweat shops if it were ever updated past 2007. The worst a Blood Elf will do now is act pompous. They exist in the horde for 3 roles
>Bland mages
>Devout Paladins
>lol pop culture gag xD
They stopped being decadent, power mad creeps around cata.

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>You're just playing as the Elves who fled with Kael'Thas.

Yes those were the last alive I mean I think WC3 made it pretty clear that the scourge kills everything.

Nightborne are pretty dull too. Should have kept their mana addiction so they'd at least have some internal drama going on. Or given us Nightfallen. All they are now are purple blood elves post TBC.

>Alliance
Humans
Dwarves (except Dark Iron)
Gnomes
Draenei
Worgen
Pandaren

>Horde
Orcs
Forsaken
Trolls
Tauren
Goblins
Dark Iron Dwarves

>Elven Confederation
Night Elves
Nightborne Elves
Blood Elves
Void Elves

Tell me this wouldn't have been as kino as possible atm and much more fitting.

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Models in Blizz games mean nothing. Everything is scaled to shit and back.

Sylvanas was the ranger general of silvermoon and garithos and dalaran tried to exterminate them.

Even ignoring Garithos' actions after the war, during it the blood elves were refused all alliance reinforcements AND punished for using fish pussy help when they actually survived their suicide mission.

Night Elves should have been their own faction like they were in WC3, going from their own faction of equal power and standing to the scourge and horde and alliance to being diurnal human stooges is embarrassing and they've been basically neutered compared to original lore

I'd have just kept the Blood Elves in space as part of Illidans crew of Naga and Draenei (real Draenei not those Eredar retcons)

Nah, remember that was when there was peace between humans and elves. At any given point in time there were Elves traveling to and living in human lands. You literally saw some still living and walking around in early WoW days in human towns.

>Yes those were the last alive
No, they made it clear that some High Elves fled in other directions. Some went south towards Stormwind/Ironforge. Don't pretend your headcanon is canon, user.

>implying implications
the light sunwell was not accepted by everyone
plenty of blood elves are still hooked on fel magic
those that aren't have yellow eyes
>muh cata
they made and shipped manabombs illegally through a neutral city to raze an alliance settlement
they stole and repurposed old mogu technology (anima and blood golems) for themselves even when asked not to by the retarded pandas and jaina retardmoore
plenty of them still served garrosh during the rebellion
and many of them blindly follow sylvanas, often as purposely dying and getting resurrected as dark rangers
blood elves are evil, user
they dont give a fuck about anything but quelthalas
im fairly sure blood elves and nightborne dont even like each other, and the alliance was sprout out of courtesy between the hot lesbian sex liadrin and thalyssra had in the nighthold

In wouldn’t mind at all. That I can agree with you, however the Elven Confederation would have the largest player base followed by Alliance, then the Horde being super tiny.

Oh yeah and the Alliance has them as units too in War3.

can't glorify drug abuse, user.

>No, they made it clear that some High Elves fled in other directions.
Ok that can happen. It does not make any sense that the entire city is intact in BC though.

It's 2019 and I'm still pissed that there's no playable Naga. Demon Hunters get them as allies but come on it's not the same at all

I mean, they probably rebuilt it. And a large chunk of the city is still fucked

people like this being attracted to the horde is why people hate belves

It's not. They went straight through it to the well, destroying what was in their way. Everything in the path was destroyed, everything on the sides ignored like the mindless zombies the army was.

90% of the playerbase would be elves
9% would be humans in the alliance
1% would play horde

Nice try with the revisionism but the ones that bitch the most are hordeniggers.

The city isn't intact in BC though. Half of old Silvermoon is completely trashed and infested with undead and wretched, then the Scar still remains despite arthas' forces being long gone, the section they restored is a fraction of the former territory.

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>plenty of blood elves are still hooked on fel magic
>those that aren't have yellow eyes
youtube.com/watch?v=732xizkqfZk&t=645
Its basically meant to be the new normal. The rest of that hardly makes them evil on the same level as they used to be. Especially since Lor'themar is actively rallying them to fight against Sylvanas just as he did with Garrosh. The worst they did was the manaboms and divine bell, but even that was the act of a few Sunreavers acting on Garroshs orders and not something that really reflects on the race as a whole.

I’m more focused on the fact that if they made the Undead less ghastly like literally something akin to plastic surgery at a better degree, they could have been “pretty enough” to not need Blood Elves from ever being added.

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> Arthas slaughtered all the other high elves
No he didn't. He even gives a big speech to the survivors at the end of the mission.

>Alliance
Humans
Gnomes
Dwarves

>Horde
Orcs
Tauren
Trolls

>Their own faction
Night elves

Forsaken

Blood elves

Goblins

Why? I don't think that the lack of Elves would affect much those looking for pretty races and "research" material aside from gameplay....

Female Forsaken, Orcs and Goblins have a very strong lewd fanbase.

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god that shit map is such a lore rape fucking bc is shit

why can't they look like this in game
the new models are shit

History says otherwise. Prior to burning crusade most servers were 60% or more Alliance with many close to 70, with the overwhelming majority of the alliance being made up of Humans and Night Elves.

Reminder that there are around 1400 pandas alive today

i dont care what the nublizz writers think of the game
not canon
also
>tradechat
off yourself

All the maps are a lorerape from W3 which in turn took a big shit on the W2 maps.

they're too lazy to fuck and eat a food they aren't built to digest.
They deserve extinction.

its mainly the players that represent that race that are the cancer much like most modern forsaken players aswell their both slutvanas boot lickers

Sorry hun, i want to be pretty but also be edgy and in the evil faction.
Deal with it, faggot.

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Mmm, Blood Elves

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>tolkien fairy waifs
Have you ever read LotR you, absolute fucking fag?

literally put in the game by chink players complaining about the ugleh horde races

he clearly knows tolkien from the jackson movies
jackson elves are pure fucking cancer

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people still parrot this as of 2019 with no evidence or source ever given
Yea Forums is a magical place

Um, why? The elves in the Jackson movies fight a lot as well

we wuz mana addicts and shiet

obsessed retard

Take the WC3pill

>Alliance
Humans
Dwarves
Gnomes
High Elves

>Horde
Orcs
Trolls
Tauren
Ogres

>Neutral factions
Pandaren
Goblins
Night Elves
Forsaken

>Retcon out of existence
Draenei
Nightborne
Blood Elves
Void Elves

Too breedable.

High elves belong in the Alliance.

This.
Lor'themar fighting with Jaina to get out of Naz'jatar is one thing, him going full rebel after both the blood elf intro quests and the purge of Dalaran is fucking retarded.
Blood Elves whole theme was that of being power hungry and having a desperate lust for vengeance.
He should consider every breath she takes as an insult to his race.
As of now he's just a pretty tauren.

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Their legendary deeds and feats of heroism don't change what they fucking ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE you inbred silmarillion smoking tosser.

Tolkien elves are a few steps below fucking divinity and literally higher existences than humans, that's not the case in Warcrat where they're magically roided chads

Lorelet, Warcraft humans are the supermagic race. Of course they'd pale in comparison to elves in physical strength

>Take the WC3pill
>Retcon out of existence
>Draenei
>Blood Elves
That doesn't make any fucking sense

because they're a giant lore clusterfuck that should never have happened
also trannies

>Alliance
Humans
Dwarves
Gnomes
Draenei
Pandaren
Worgen

>Horde
Orcs
Tauren
Trolls
Darkiron
Forsaken
Goblins

Dump Elves as a race all together and put them in the background like High Elves as an NPC only race.

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>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY TRANNY RACE DID NOT GET SLAUGTHERED REEEEE THEY WERE ALIVE AND ARE ALIVE RIGHT NOW

I killed every single elf in my TFT campaign you fucking faggot trannies.

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Best do my part to help with the repopulation

And you are straight up retarded for not looking into it yourself wanting to be spoonfed like a fucking infant

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>him going full rebel after both the blood elf intro quests and the purge of Dalaran is fucking retarded.
Um, why? Jaina openly knew what she was doing during the Dalaran purge, and I don't see why he'd just shrug that whole incident off

Lor'Themar is agaisnt Sylvanas in BfA and in 8.2 he is starting to lead the resistance against her, and is trying to rally the Belves.

Draenei were completely degraded beasts, and. Blood Elves were essentially just a sub-faction of High Elves.
The ayylmao paladin shamans that for some reason got thrown into the alliance in TBC weren't the same as the Draenei in WC3 at all you dumbfuck.

based

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You fucking nigger they were called Blood Elves STARTING IN WARCRAFT THREE.
The High Elves were overwhelmingly killed by Arthas, their survivors hounded by garithos and aided by the Naga. The leader of the Forsaken is the former RANGER GENERAL OF SILVERMOON.

Forsaken and Blood Elves being their own third faction alongside the Naga and some OC shit would be preferable to the shit we ended up getting

pretty sure he means the retail WoW versions of those races, which are vastly different from their WC3 counterparts.

I am okay with this.

literally who

I wish Blood Elves and Draenei were in Classic.

pls tell me there is a pair of balls under there

You realise that there were high elf factions alive and well in vanilla, right basedposter?

>including Night Elves
Night Elves have despised/been disgusted by Blood Elves since vanilla.
I know because I just did a quest yesterday about Night Elves admonishing Blood Elves reckless use of magic.

then you should mention it you inbred nigger

>Forsaken and Blood Elves
Not this guy, but do you realize how idiotic it would be for former High Elves to cooperate with the kind of beings that nearly ended their ancient civilization?

except belfs arent edgy or evil

How much have High Elves and Blood Elves changed now? I don’t think they are racially distinct are they? I assume that most High elves are allowed to make pilgrimages to the purified Sunwell right?

You fucking retard, as a whole race they weren't blood elves until TBC. It was just an angsty bunch of them that splintered off into a subfaction that called themselves Blood elves in TFT. They were still High elves. It wasn't until TBC that they became their own distinct race because ???????? what the fuck is a consistency amirite

>game designers are literally who in regards to game design topics
idiot.

The Forsaken are not the Scourge and are even led by a High Elf.

youtube.com/watch?v=7CEOaQcR4Os
Relevant video.

>Hun
Kill yourself.

>I mean fuck any time a civie wants to move to alliance lands to like live with thier living family the alliance seems alright with it but sylvanis acts like a bitch and has them killed.
She's in the Horde, why wouldn't she kill someone in the alliance?
You're free to join ISIS, but don't be surprised when a US drone kills you.

>that voice
He never had a sex life to ruin.

who is that guy that commissions art of his blood elf? the elf has light eyes, some kind of mask over her mouth. also how does alori afford to commission so much art?

This looks so fucking retarded

I would have rather had forest trolls

Watch the entire thing.

Nothing makes Yea Forums and wowbabbies seethe like blood elves.
It's glorious.

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Yes yes, and orcs are noble savages and the forsaken are just misunderstood.
Whatever makes you sleep, sweetie.
What's wrong, champ?
Triggered by some lovely words?

>She's in the Horde, why wouldn't she kill someone in the alliance?
Except when this happened the Alliance and Horde were under an official ceasefire.

High elves overcame their magic addiction through self discipline and focusing on nature while blood elves just chugged down on fel cum. Fel usually corrupts and changes the subject but on them it did little more than just tint their eyes. Now that the Sunwell has been purified it is as you say, there's no difference between them but social and political.

OP is talking about why Classic players hate them though, and that's by and large because they were put in the wrong faction from the beginning.

That's what I said.
Him rebelling against the Horde is retarded because of the Purge.
He shouldn't shrug it off because Sylvanas is cruel, if anything he should be mad that she hasn't pointed that cruelty at humans/Jaina.

I liked to roleplay as "normal dude" in freaklands as BE. All the dead people, cows , ungaboongas and there is me, a normal dude.

>Still can’t play as original humans.

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>The Forsaken are not the Scourge
He says while they actively Blight every form of life, including their own troops, have 3rd Reich-like laboratories EXACTLY like the Scourge and they are all Undead brought to life as a mockery of it.

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It's just incredibly gay.

But Blood Elves aren’t even in Classic. What is the problem?

Still not the Scourge
>believing in "war crimes"
lmao

They're a "race" for gameplay reasons. They're still the subfaction, only they have control because most of them are in silvermoon while the Alliance loyalists were in outposts around the Eastern Kingdoms.

I want to fuck Lorthemar

This discussion no longer concerns solely Classic if you haven't realized it.

>High elves overcame their magic addiction through self discipline and focusing on nature
that literally never happened
high elves used to mana tap mana wyrms like everyone else
it wasn't until rommath taught everyone about imprisoning demons and sucking their fel energy that they fucked off to the alliance
now that apparently the sunwell is just infinite in every dimension, high elves don't manatap anymore and their eyes will turn golden as well
blame blizz for it, not me
>muh honorabru disciprined high elves pls blizz giv no void elves pls
fucking delusional mongrel lmaooooo

they kinda are, you see high elves here and there in classic
they are neutral yet though

And?
Scared of some bussy?

Because chad Horde players don't want twink faggots playing their elf waifus on our side, we are the pussy destroying savages with a primitive aesthetic. Elves are trash.

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>because they were put in the wrong faction from the beginning
oh yeah lets put them in the faction that wanted them genocided OMEGALUL

My issues isn't Blood Elves, I actually think they are pretty cool with an interesting back story and race development.
My issue is that so many people fucking play them because they're the "pretty race" of the Horde. Even worse is how many are dudes playing females. The fact so many people struggle to see the appeal of playing any other Horde race is disappointing.

>literally not the Scourge
>splinter group, ie not the Forsaken
>those events happened well after BEs joining

I really liked them in TBC. They got super boring after that. They really should've pushed the angle of them feeling betrayed by the Alliance

how does that work with elven DKs and DH? directly tapping from necro and fel energy?

What are you talking about?
If you're talking about the Gathering, that wasn't an official ceasefire. Anduin specifically said in his letter that it wasn't a plea for peace.
Also there was the whole attempted coup.
Otherwise, what are you talking about?

>High Elves get slaughtered by Arthas
>10 percent survived
>Out of that 10 percent, only 10 percent stayed loyal to the Alliance.
When you have 90% of the survivors be “Blood Elves” they are less of a sub faction and more of the main faction.

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>My issue is that so many people fucking play them because they're the "pretty race" of the Horde. Even worse is how many are dudes playing females.
autism

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They're dead, they never needed to tap.
Specifically the lore reason in Sunwell, and the spell itself was removed in LK

>the faction that wanted them genocided
I don't know about whatever retcons they've come up with lately but at least in WC3 that's not what happened. Garithos was a warlord trying to conquer the land of a destroyed kingdom, not a representative of the Alliance. And we never saw what the trial at Dalaran would have spelled for Kael, which would have probably been very favorable given Dalaran was a city founded by the humans and elves living together.

Was this all changed with the Chronicles bullshit books or something?

>My issue is that so many people fucking play them because they're the "pretty race" of the Horde.
that's not the case tho
people played belves because they were the meta in pve and pvp for at least 4 expansions out of 7
not because they were pretty
you dumb fucking retard
DKs are addicted to violence and blood, not magic
DHs sucked illidan's fel cum

and then an even smaller % of that 10% became playable as Void Elves

gj Blizzard

Garithos did nothing wrong!

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I think it goes into how nigh elves got all buthurt in BE starting zone. Tirande got all hissy about it, just like with nightborn.

>Garithos was a warlord trying to conquer the land of a destroyed kingdom, not a representative of the Alliance.
nice no true scotman, faggot
nah, alliance fags are fags
blood elves belong either in the horde or by themselves
deal with it, faggot

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Bloody Elves...and their booties

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What do you mean by that?

>either in the horde or by themselves
gave me an idea, what would've been cool is full on nation on nation pvp war. horde/alliance questing stay the same, but dwarves can kill humans, and elves can kill orcs
that would be cool, even if broken

humans and elves were never on good terms
they tolerated each other and were occasional allies, but they distrusted each other on multiple occasions

>The Horde exists BECAUSE of the Alliance!
I thought it was because some demons manipulated a giant Orc army to invade Azeroth

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>High Elves literally out populate void elves in lore
>Void Elves are playable but not High Elves
Despite that the reason High Elves were never added because there are not enough of them to be playable. What is Blizzard’s excuse now again?

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BElfs were fine, even as horde. They just weren't handled properly. Like 90% of the shit in WoW.

they all are the same race though.

You damn right

pretty sure they will cave in and give void elves players a questline to turn their skin back to normal
like how warlocks got green fire spells

quite literally fanfic tier writing

Red Juice Elves

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I just want a night elf bf

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Absolutely. But that was not the case in Dalaran, it was populated and ruled by both races.

>saying it's because "muh meta" when Trolls and Goblins have had just as good if not better racials for ages.
>asshurt faggots trying to justify why they're playing females elves.

Should they now call themselves Sun Elves at this point?

No way,
fag.

>tfw now sabercat pet

the horde isnt the horde. I know it's dumb, but blizz used the exact same name for two different groups. You would think they'd have changed the name in universe.

GUYS
HELP
IM ABOUT TO
ABOUT
A-A-A-ABOUT TO

user are you forgetting the fact that dalaran was completely razed to the ground and utterly annihilated in wc3, only to come back fully retconnected first in wow and then in wotlk?

>night elf questing treats them as demons and/or abominations and has you collect brains of naga and satyr to study in hopes of keeping them from going further
>blood elf questing shows alliance spies and infiltrators tampering with their defenses
>last interaction before that was having their entire military forces locked up in Dalaran for execution for the crime of having an ugly ally
They don't have friends on the Alliance unless they're literal cocksocks like Alleria and Vareesa.

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>WOW RACE PRETTY IT NO BELONG WITH UGLY PEOPLE!!!
stop projecting your real life ugly into the game. orc women are pretty too btw.

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Trash race, like the rest of WoW story.
The only reason they were put in Horde is because the Asian didn't want to play Horde unless there was a pretty race.

no user, arcane torrent was the best racial for both pve and pvp for centuries
>hurr durr u play blood elf
i dont even play horde, you fucking noshoes hordenigger
but that is a fact
keep seething all you want, belves ruled the game because of their stupid racials alone

>humans and elves were never on good terms
Um... what? Humans and Elves have been cool with each others for generations in Warcraft lore. Ever since the battles with trolls hundreds of years ago. The Elves taught humans how to cast magic and they came to assist the humans during WC2. Like, I don't even see how this is something you thought was true.

I'm surprised we haven't gotten a War of the ancients timetravel expansion yet.

Well, he's right that the horde exists because of the alliance.
It's because the alliance allowed them to exist after their constant chimpouts by putting them to work in camps instead of genociding them like they deserved.

what's wrong with her back, the poor girl

Keep it coming bro. You're doing a sacred job.

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There would be no darkspear, tauren, forsaken, blood elves, goblins, or nightborne in the Horde if it wasn't for the Alliance though

I'M GONNA C-

That's because the writer wanted an excuse to push Belves into Horde.
It doesn't change that this race into Horde makes 0 sense.

Solar Sky Ball Elves

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I'd fucking wreck a Troll woman

You proved his point, they helped each other out in a couple wars but that was it.
Dalaran was the only place where elves and humans intermingled.

Are you retarded? It literally says
>in WC3

You will never be a true member of the horde or a woman, tranny

remainder that pandas have no redeeming features other than being "cute" and their natural enviroment wouldnt change at all if the went extinct
on the other hand there are dozens of endangered species that are crucial for their enviroments, that noone cares about because they dont look cute or prety
fuck pandas, and fuck anyone that gives a fuck about pandas

Based. Pandaren girls have the best asses in WoW, shame about them not having gigantic tits too/

>My eyes shot to her face but then naturally drifted left to the recruitment poster rather than her legs.
Am I so desensitized that I don’t care about my lust now?

>her

The reason was and has always been as simple as the two factions not getting the same race, they tried it with pandas and it was a colossal failure. You were never going to get blue eyed blood elves, blue skinned ones were a consolation prize.

They're-For-Gripping Elves

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Nigger the Taurens were part of the Horde before the Alliance even existed.

What? Its been 12 years since they came out. All the people who are blood elves now have always been horde trannies.

no?
user the elves asked the humans for help against the trolls and in return they taught those apes how to cast a fireball
then they refused any further help and distances themselves from humans in the 2nd war, seeing humans as primitive and useless
and guess what happened, stormwind got razed to the ground by the orcs and humans fled to the north
the same elves ignored the lordaeron pleas for help with orcs and the plague
how fitting that it was a human prince to glass their fucking faggot elven neighborhood
human and elves never liked each other that much, their relations were purely formal

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Nah, probably poor and thought you saw gold.

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Anons the question remains, if Blizzard allowed a scourge faction and Arthas called you to serve him and cull all the brown diversity of each faction would you? Would you serve Arthas and destroy the Chicago/Detroit faction: Horde. And then purge the degenerate tranny loving EU LGBT faction Alliance?

Exactly. Therefore it makes even less sense to have Blood Elves in Horde.

The night elf quests regarding them was in vanilla. Garithos was being a cock in WC3.
>he doesn't represent the whole Alliance
Weird how he got an Alliance state made up of both elves and humans to lock up all the elves to be executed though.

HUMANS!?

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artist?

id kill anybody as long as me and the futas/furry females were spared

>should we join the faction that actively wanted us exterminated after a HUMAN prince razed our kingdom to the ground?
>btw the same faction has our long lost cousins that hate us with all their guts
>or should we join the based qt banshee queen that btw as our RANGER GENERAL that slipped and powerslided to appear cool into arthas' blade?
>they are undead, but like good undead totally cool they will help us
>oh btw they are with orcs now
>ykw sure lets go for sylvannis, rememba the sunpit n shieeet

it would be THE POPULAR faction, I can't play that.

>I require semen for my spells. You'll do.

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Both faction in WoW are garbage with the most insufferable characters, so yes, ofc.
I don't remember a night elf quest in vanilla about fucking up with the belves.
And yea, Garithos has nothing to do with the alliance which was destroyed at that time.

>hate most eves
>don’t even like nelfs that much
>still roll a Nelf hunter just like the good old days

Anything else feels wrong

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They joined in wc3

The story has progressed since then, but still applies.
If Garithos had no power or authority behind him, how did he make the single greatest representitive of human/elf unity arrest all of their elves including their king at his mere behest?

We need Dark Ranger class for Horde, and some kind of Lightforged undead class for Alliance

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>sunpit
Fuck you for making me laugh.

>le Human prace
Lmao, is it reddit? What the fuck does Arthas action have to do with this? Btw he was mind controlled by an Orc, so even with your own fucked up logic you lose.
>btw the same faction has our long lost cousins that hate us with all their guts
Another WoW retcon. Night Elves have good relations with the belves in Wc3. Now that they suck human cock and that the human accepted them, it's another proof that this conflict is forced.
>or should we join the based qt banshee queen
Ok, stopped reading here, another Sylvanas waifufag.

>You proved his point, they helped each other out in a couple wars
How does this prove they're not on good terms? You can't just say they are and offer no supporting evidence.
>Dalaran was the only place where elves and humans intermingled.
Except for the elves we see living in human lands?
>user the elves asked the humans for help against the trolls and in return they taught those apes how to cast a fireball
Yes that was how the two races became friendly with one another.
>then they refused any further help and distances themselves from humans in the 2nd war
Uh they helped in WC2 though? In WC3 they holed up against the undead because Lorderon had just fallen unexpectedly
>the same elves ignored the lordaeron pleas for help with orcs and the plague
Lorderon fell super quickly, remember the scene where Arthas kills his dad?

I just feel like lying about this stuff isn't helping anyone

>I joined the Alliance solely to train young boys like yourself. Today you'll be learning how to wrestle...get on the bed.

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Elves are not sluts, this isn't SFM. Stop trying to present them as such.
If you're looking for sluts, refer to the Succubi of the Burning Legion.
Or Jaina.

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He allied with Sylvanas, attempted to talk shit while surrounded by her forces, and ended up as ghoul turds.
Don't know how Garithosposters keep forgetting this.

Yes, and that had jackshit to do with the Alliance stupid retard. It was because Thrall helped them against the centaur.
Why do you pretend that you played wc3?

>keep seething
You're projecting super hard. I suggest you turn off your computer and try focusing on a task that doesn't easily offend you.

Putress did nothing wrong

But ma’am, shouldn’t we be at the training ground for that then?

>Weird how he got an Alliance state made up of both elves and humans to lock up all the elves to be executed though.
>how did he make the single greatest representitive of human/elf unity arrest all of their elves including their king at his mere behest?
He got them locked up awaiting trial because he had claims of "treason" since Kael was seen with the naga. The trial never happened and there was never a sentence of execution, just one of Garithos' men taunting Kael in prison.

It's a real stretch to think that Dalaran would sentence the prince of Quel'thalas to death after listening to the whole story and seeing the evidence. It's more likely they would have turned on Garithos after learning what he did basically amounted to trying to get allies of the Alliance killed by the Scourge.

Red Wine Elves

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>Btw he was mind controlled by an Orc, so even with your own fucked up logic you lose.
He was mindcontrolled by an Orc warlock that became what she became thanks to the Burning Legion.
Thrall's orc are actively hostile towards demons.
>Another WoW retcon. Night Elves have good relations with the belves in Wc3.
Are you retarded? Nelves have NO relation whatsoever with the belves in Wc3. Tyrande simply meets them by chance.

Night elf society is very hostile towards magic and this was well established in WC3. And the high elf / night elf split with the Azshara and War of Eternity lore clearly was already thought out during W3.

Fuck this thread man im just gonan fucking nut over bloodelves sluts RN.

Kys shotafag

>then they refused any further help and distances themselves from humans in the 2nd war
Elves were units in WC2 for the Humans

We got a few dungeons in cata and I think thats the best you'll get

>NOOO HE WAS MINDCONTROLLED BY AN ORC THAT DOESNT COUNT REEEEEEEE
>implying the elves were aware of that
>night elves had good relations with the belves
because of what, 3 missions that saw tyrande and kaelthas flirting with each other?
all of that because they were chasing illidan and the belves agreed to tell 'em directions in change for a fucking escort mission?
>triggered about sylvanas
ah i see.
endless butthurt from a not-my-warchief faggot.
seethe and cope harder, bitch nigger.

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So do I understand class raiding tiers correctly?

Tank: Best is Warrior, Druid is alright, pally is subpar
DPS: Best is rogue/mage/warlock. Hunter/druid/warrior/pally is alright to subpar
Healing: Priest/Pally is best. Druid/Shaman is alright/situational

Thrall wouldn't be there to help him if it wasn't for the Alliance. Same with the trolls, actually.
Wasn't saying that the Alliance attacked them or anything, just that they're in the Horde because of the Alliance.

>moving the goalpost.
Then what was the point of your HUMAN argument waifufag?
>Tyrande simply meets them by chance.
Tyrande helped them because she wanted to stupid fuck. Did you even play the mission? Because of that, she almost died and Maiev had to lie to stop Illidan.
Go fap on Sylvanas already and stop talking.

>Night elf society is very hostile towards magic and this was well established in WC3
Well not anymore obviously since they suck the cock of humans in WoW. They are just purple High Elves.

>See, no need to be afraid of me, child. Be a good lad and help me out of my armor

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wc2 is not canon, user
sorry :^)
>Lorderon had just fallen unexpectedly
that's just your headcanon, further fueled by the cutscene and timeskip after the human campaign in wc3
>Lorderon fell super quickly, remember the scene where Arthas kills his dad?
exactly, cringy headcanon
>I just feel like lying about this stuff isn't helping anyone
then how about you stop?
fucking hell even in that abortion of a movie you have high elves snobbing the fucking humans and refusing to help

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Tyrande helped them because they could help her find Illidan you fucking imbecile.

Replay the campaign again. Not to mention that Tyrande the purple slut that cannot stop slurping demon corrupted cock is a terrible representative of night elf society.

Why do you move the goalpost again?
They are in horde because Thrall helped them. Period.

>How does this prove they're not on good terms?
Because in the years between those wars the elves lived in near isolation.
>Except for the elves we see living in human lands?
You mean in the farstrider outposts?
The military outposts? Not like there's high elf civilians living with humans.

Because nobody hates Humans. Humans are so good with diplomacy that meta wise even the players can’t hate them.

Have you heard of the High Elves?

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Kys shotafag

>wc2 is not canon, user
Oh so you don't know about this, ok. Why are you pretending like you know anything?
>that's just your headcanon, further fueled by the cutscene and timeskip after the human campaign in wc3
It's precisely what happened, the narrator even says so
>exactly, cringy headcanon
Ok so you're just pretending to be retarded now I assume.
>then how about you stop?
Stop pointing out how wrong you are? Nah.

If you were looking for the reason why nobody likes elves, you found it

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No, that's a lie. Maiev saids that they are wasting their time and Tyrande finally admits that she was doing this just to help them.
Anyway they have perfectly fine relations.
Go fap on Sylvanas already.

I just hate elves. Fuck elves. I'm so sick of them.

Because they are semen demons?

Disgusting male human tranny faces with ears stapled on

Threadly reminder that BE female are firm and perky B cup and below ONLY. Titfetishists gtfo

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>Because in the years between those wars the elves lived in near isolation.
They still helped during the wars, user. And nothing indicates they felt that way.
>You mean in the farstrider outposts?
Those yes, but there's high elves in Ratchet and Stormwind as well, at least.
>The military outposts? Not like there's high elf civilians living with humans.
Yes there is, and the ones at the farstrider outposts also live with humans there.

Dilate

This picture is torturing to me. It's torturing because I will never have a Blood Elf wife....
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>larps as an elf bimbo on the internet
>calls someone else a tranny

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user, he's clearly full on delusional thinking we are the same person
just ignore him, he's seething and judging by his posts he's one of those faggots that wanted the high elves in the alliance, but got canned by blizzard and got the fucking blueberries
leave him be, his salt will fuel the blood elves' claim to the horde even further
wc2 got retconnected out of existence with the latest chronicles books, user
a bunch of units in a game for the sake of gameplay is not hardwritten lore
or are you telling me that panda guy in the orc bonus campaign wa-
oh right.
>it's precisely what happened
it took weeks for the scourge to reap lordaeron
and it wasn't even "lordaeron" itself, human forces were everywhere
remember garithos?
did he just spawn out of fucking nothing?
the elves saw a human prince with a bunch of corpses destroying their kingdom
then saw another human capture and almost execute the royal prince and heir of quelthalas and a bunch of other nobodies
QUICK, LETS JOIN THE ALLIANCE!!
you fucking faggot lmao

>We have too many elves!
>There are literally equal number of playable Human races as playable Elves.
What did the playerbase mean by this?

>All these elf posters.
I never wanted to be in a scourge faction so badly.

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Rose Elves

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Ofc they were aware of that you dipshit since they know about the difference between Horde and Scourge.
>because of what, 3 missions that saw tyrande and kaelthas flirting with each other?
Yes, that's enough. If they hated each other like you said, they would have mind their own biz.
>endless butthurt from a not-my-warchief faggot.
YAAAAS QUEEN

>It's a real stretch to think that Dalaran would sentence the prince of Quel'thalas to death after listening to the whole story and seeing the evidence. It's more likely they would have turned on Garithos after learning what he did basically amounted to trying to get allies of the Alliance killed by the Scourge.
And yet they were all locked up in the dungeons, while a simple interrogation would be enough to dispel Garithos' notions of treason. Shit even a question of 'what did they do?'.
And this whole trial thing is headcanon anyway. Based on the info presented in game they were getting the axe.

Humans
Fat humans
Undead humans
Short humans
Shorter humans

The Blood Elves should have been Alliance. Why the fuck do they even trust the Forsaken when the undead and the plague destroyed them? They were literally allied to humanity for years and years.

>not being hyped to play as the scourge plaguing the land and conquering the living in the name of the Lich King from the second a Warcraft MMO was revealed

COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>At appears you'll be studying under me, boy. Studying under me...a lot.

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can we stop nitpicking shallow writing? writer didn't think any of that, he didn't care.

they weren't, you nigger
you can't possibly predict some ultra-dimensional bullshit
it was never implied
the lich king didn't even have a body or a form in wc3, it was some sort of fucking background lore like the legion and other assorted shit
even kiljaeden in tft was an asspull for many
>literally reskinned archimonde
yikes
>they hated each other
i never said those two hated each other, i said the night elves and high elves hated each other
given how blood elves are basically high elves with a different tint, the hate still remains
don't mix the arguments, you little faggot
>YAAAAS QUEEN
NOOOOOT
MYYYYYYY
WARCHIEEEEEF
BAAAAAAAAAA
WAAAAAA
MY POOR NIGHT ELVES ;_________;
NUUUUUUUUU
BABBEEEEH TYRANDAAAAAAAA
fucking kill yourself elf apologist

>a bunch of units in a game for the sake of gameplay is not hardwritten lore
WC2 goes into the fact that the Elves agree to assist the humans.
>it took weeks for the scourge to reap lordaeron
According to what?
>the elves saw a human prince with a bunch of corpses destroying their kingdom
>then saw another human capture and almost execute the royal prince and heir of quelthalas and a bunch of other nobodies
>QUICK, LETS JOIN THE ALLIANCE!!
Uh, what? This isn't even remotely what we were talking about. We were discussing if humans and Elves were cool with each other before WC3.

I meant to say I never wanted to be in scourge so badly in my life until seeing these elves.

Yes they were you fucktard since they ally with the Forsaken. According to your 1 IQ logic, they would never side with Sylvanas since she killed them as well when she was scourge.

Not to mention that Humans live in a universe of huge brutish monsters and magical creatures and they're somehow still kicking and are...."exceptional in magic by Nature" somehow? Even topping Elves at that?

Fuck off.
Humans are the biggest Mary Sues in the WoWverse.

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Blood Magic Elves

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All of this is made clear by the Dreadlords' involvement. In WoW, the conspiracy is real. It is all because of Dreadlords.

>thinks I larp as the bimbo

Nice projection. Now hurry up before your wound heals.

You know what the Blood Elves saw? Endless Horde yelling "LOKTAR" who raped and tried to genocide them, and showed 0 remorse.
Nope in fact they named their city ORGRIMMAR.
So you gonna tell me that the Blood Elves hate the humans because of two dudes, but will embrace the barbaric culture at the opposite spectrum of their civilization where every one of the Orc tried to kill them with 100% freewill?

Kys

More like
>Humans
>Furry Humans
>Fat Pirate Humans
>Undead rock and roll Humans

>We were discussing if humans and Elves were cool with each other before WC3.
they weren't
they were uneasy allies
anasterian stopped caring about the humans when the trolls got their shit kicked in
the end
you may not like it, but this is the lore
read it on the wiki, it's written clearly there for everyone to see
and yet they sided with sylvanas in tbc
she is the sole reason belves are in the horde
are you headcanoning a retcon of tbc's own lore lmao?

Incase
Give it a month of looking through his art and you'll be able to tell when pictures are his based on the nose alone

Because the Ranger General of Silvermoon leads the forsaken and they didn't choose to be undead. Their shared hatred of Arthas and desire for revenge brought them together, the blood elves are a magocracy and freely allowed warlocks to practice their magic and even drank demon juice at Illidan's behest. The fact they're undead doesn't inherently bother them

>And this whole trial thing is headcanon anyway. Based on the info presented in game they were getting the axe.
You are right. I was so sure I remembered them taking them away to wait for trial but in the cutscenes the guards just say Garithos can't wait to execute them. Sorry user I remembered that part very wrong.

>Fingolfin
What a guy. Stood up against Melkor Himself and fuck up his leg.
Tolkien elves are cool.

>Humans are devolved form of the creations of the Titans
>Surprised that they are natural with Arcane (literally Titan magic).
t. Jealous Elf

>they weren't
They were, and I just proved they were
>they were uneasy allies
In your opinion, perhaps.
>you may not like it, but this is the lore
It's your own headcanon, user.
>read it on the wiki, it's written clearly
Then link those quotes that totally prove your point and aren't made up

Oh shit I actually forgot about worgen, who are literally humans using the same human model as non-worgen outside of combat

>and yet they sided with sylvanas in tbc
Nope waifufag. You have too much cum in your brain. You say that Belves would never join alliance because of one undead human, yet they join the Forsaken, undeads with 99% human.
The sole reason belves are in horde is because incels like yourselves didn't want to play Horde because they were too ugly.

>Human
Boring fuckface, decrepit boomer who's been playing one for 12 years, or virtual skinhead acting out his ethnic purge fantasy
>Kultiran
Fat women lefty stereotypes, hard gays, or that one guy who wants to roleplay a pirate
>Worgen
Obvious furries and 11 year olds who picked the most vicious-looking thing on the 'good guys'
>Dwarves
Hipsters, /tg/ losers (who ironically don't know the game lore), or people who shamelessly fetishize homely women
>Gnomes
Creeps who want to roleplay as a baby, creeps who want to fuck a midget, or that guy who realizes how ridiculous getting killed by one looks
>Draenei
Goldshire addicts, or women who picked blue blood elves (a dying breed now that there are literal blue blood elves)
>Night elves
Wanted to play a druid but didn't want to be fat, or a geriatric who's been playing the same hunter for over a decade

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Something something something sylvanas. Never made sense to me they'd join up with fucking undead who love to blight everything when the entire first 2 zones are you looking at how bad the undead raped their once beautiful lands but it's cool we'll join up with the new didn du nuffin undead

Seriously Forsaken is the "didn du nuffin we wuz bout to get that degree" faction right up there with orcs even after the wrath gate and them currently blighting the fuck out of dark shore right now if you play BfA. You can call it """"rebel forsaken"""" all you want but some fringe undead nigger literally blights entire towns every expansion. Undead should have been purged long ago, Alliance is the only proper faction to join

It should though and the blood elves should have the same opinion about the forsaken as the humans. You have to be an idiot to not realize Windrunner has ulterior motives and the Forsaken seem to be bent on world domination. It's the same goals as the undead and the lich king but with a different story.

Were allied races a mistake? How did blizzard think doing a repgrind to get a new race, advertised as a core feature of the expansion, was a good idea?

I just said I wasn't even arguing this point, what are you doing

Brb rolling belf pally

Thoughts on Alliance High Elves for Classic+?

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>Why do you move the goalpost again?
Do you know what that phrase means?
>There would be no darkspear, tauren, forsaken, blood elves, goblins, or nightborne in the Horde if it wasn't for the Alliance though
That's the goalpost. Those races are in the Horde because of the Alliance. Nothing about attacking insulting or direct contact. Just that the Alliance is why those races joined the orcs.
That's why I omitted panderan, high mountain, and mag'har. Because despite having contact with the Alliance they didn't join due to any action of a member/s of the Alliance in any way.

That's also why they killed Kael btw.
Kael wanted to genocide the Orcs, and would never bow to the people who tried to genocide his race.

Blizzard is unintelligent but not moreso than their customers

Can't repeat it enough. There should be more factions than Horde and Alliance and Forsaken should have been one of them. I literally don't see how in WoW the Forsaken won't eventually own the whole of Azeroth

They should have been there on release instead of gnomes or nelves.

Stop using later expansion lore to explain why they shouldn't have joined in fucking burning crusade, the current shadowlands bullshit with Sylvanas and the endless evil horde warchief bullshit hadn't happened yet.

They joined Thrall's Horde at the negotiation of Sylvanas. I agree that if it wasn't for game mechanics they should have left the horde long ago, probably right after WOTLK when their shared interests officially ended with the death of arthas.

However in an MMO once you're in a faction it's ride or die for eternity regardless of lore

Playable naga
Playable ogres
Playable Murlocs
Playable non-furfag worgen
Playable dragonkin

Based as fuck. Then Naga or Gnolls or Goblins for the horde

>It'll work! They'll be so happy to put lotion on us due to their rampant human desires!
>The book says courting humans is to be taken seriously so as not to break their fragile hearts.
>I don't see why we don't just kidnap them like in the olden days.
>We've entered formal relations with their government. Their King says they have the right decline...unless they get one of pregnant.
>And young boys are easily seduced! Loop hole!

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>racials complete shit
>both were pretty good in pve and pvp

Imagine the rape

If WoW would follow wc3, Night Elves would have helped the Belves against the Scourge instead of helping the Human Kingdom they knew nothing about.

It should always have been four factions. Nelves don't belong in the Alliance nor do undead in the Horde.

Fair enough.

>Pretty good in PvP
Blood Elf Rogue was one of the strongest PvP classes in TBC because of that ranged silence

If we aren't following WoW lore then it hardly even makes sense anyways. The Forsaken should have been complete outcasts anyways. Such a stupid fucking faction to have even if they have a cool aesthetic

If you followed WC3 Night Elves would have been hostile to everyone.

>Sorry. I don’t like little boys. Come back in about 20 years when you’ve grown some muscles.
>And a bigger cock.

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>the horde exists BECAUSE of the alliance!
This is fucking retarded, the Alliance was literally formed in response to the first Horde invasion.

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I think it's funny that gnomes were nearly retconned out of the Warcraft universe. In WC3 they don't mention them at all, and in the pen and paper RPG books they released after WC3 but before WoW they say that Gnomes are a "mythical species" and that people who claim to have seen one are insane

A mistake? We may hate it, but it’s pointless padding so that (You) will keep that subscription of yours active.

Exactly. So either you don't make them a playable race, either you made them help their cousins againt the scourge immedialty, like Tyrande did during TFT.

I give it a 7/10.
Tsundere Elves are the best in regards to forming relationships with Humans due to their innate arrogance.

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The alliance existed before Warcraft 3 you brain dead mongoloid

But... I’m 45

Completely forgot this, what a fucking joke. Gnomer would have been an even better dungeon if this was true for WoW. Imagine exploring the weird remnants of the gnome civilization

Why do guys like elf women so damn much, they're literally just white/asian girls with long ears like an animal. The fuck is wrong with you? Also how come no Black women elves?

They refused Sylvanas' offer time and time again, and only joined the Horde after they found out the Alliance was actively disrupting their defenses.
The Forsaken and Horde were only even considered because the Forsaken helped take back tranquilin and the Alliance was fucking with their only means of keeping Eversong from becoming the Ghostlands.

Because they deviated the horde from being tough angry bestial races into some kind of cultured high-art shit

OH LORD IM GUNNA COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH COOOOM COOOOOM COOOOOM!!!

>Posting a lower res image of something already in the thread
I'll take the /ss/ fans over your stupid ass any day.

>exotic looking but still kind of normal
>immortal so you know they have some secrets that are gonna be hot as fuck
>insanely intelligent so you know they can do some cool shit in bed
>tall and slender and beautiful bodies
>perfect skin

more whites and asians doing this shit means more people who like asians and whites, white are basically the go to best looking women for white people while the darker skined guys can have all the blacks and more dark skin (who arent asian) for all i care

>they're literally just white/asian girls with long ears like an animal.

You answered your own question

Reminder
>sanlayn vampires join the Horde
>Horde dont even see them
>they only exist to die to the Alliance

Only talking about the retard argument that the Belves would hate humans because of "muh Arthas"
I know the official reason why they joined Horde in TBC, and this doesn't change that this is garbage. The story of TBC is one of the worst.

>Uh oh. The little boy is angry at me. Poor thing. No I won’t give you a pity handjob dear. I don’t think my fingers can fit that small thing.

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>Also how come no Black women elves?
What lore reason would Elves have for black skin variations? Elves don’t follow the same biology as humans. Furthermore even from a meta standpoint from IRL folklore Elves are uniquely a European mythological creature.

Reminds me of the "purge squads" killing defenseless refugees

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Black women look more exotic than white and asian women with pointed ears slapped on.

Disgusting is not exotic.

Because they were literally added to be the horde "pretty" race because of complaining chinks.
And it worked, by the end of wrath over half of all horde characters were tranny elves.

Why can't elves have black facial features and hair?

>Just kidding, I love how your smaller body molds to mine just perfectly...the feeling of my breasts enveloping your face is divine.

Neverwinter Nights put me off female elves forever. The amount of obnoxious lesbian elves played by fat dudes marrying each other and acting """girly""" was completely fucking unbearable.

t.orc chad

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>They were, and I just proved they were
nope, and you didn't
>in your opinion
>The high elves were, at best, reluctant members of the original human-centric Alliance of Lordaeron,[7] and their partnership was a cold and distant one. The high elven king and council were particularly unenthusiastic allies, caring little for the world outside Quel'Thalas and only agreeing to join the Alliance because of a pact made long ago to the line of King Thoradin; and even so, the high elves seceded soon after that pact was fulfilled. After officially departing from the Alliance, the high elves shut themselves off in their enchanted kingdom, and the few who remained with the Alliance did so against the orders of their reclusive masters in Silvermoon.[57]
>your own headcanon
see above, shitstain
>then link those quotes
wow.gamepedia.com/High_elf#Other_races
4th paragraph
now that you have been utterly btfo in every possible manner, leave this thread and never return
you had plenty of space to save your face, but you fucked it up
begone, nigger
i dont play horde and i dont play belf
you're just seething over a fictional character
>undead human and undead elf are the same thing!1!!
is your iq double digits or what
they aren't even remotely comparable
>hurr durr ur an incel
not an argument, seething cuck

You need Trolls to live next to the Negro Well for a few centuries to produce Elves with such features.

White and asian women don't even look that good compared to black and latinas

>The amount of obnoxious lesbian elves played by fat dudes marrying each other and acting """girly""" was completely fucking unbearable
Dont visit Goldshire

In BFA the alliance flat out genocide people. I have not encountered any genocide quest for the horde. Worst one is killing hundreds of goblins.

No he's saying the wow classic fanbase hates blood elves as a playable race. It doesn't require blood elves to be a playable race for this group of people to hate the idea of it (because yes blood elves are in Vanilla both as NPC's and as lore, just not playable ones). How retarded are you?

You're just lying now.

When Night Elves were put into the Alliance, the chances of Blood Elves joining dropped to nil. They are the epitome of everything Night Elves hated about the Highborne.
And even if classic+ happens, those chances stay nil because Blood Elves are both in WC3 and vanilla along with the reasons they aren't in the Alliance.

Horde are retarded in general. Not bad guys isnt interesting.

Yes, under scourge control, undead human or undead elf is the exact same shit.

>You're just lying now.


Explain Meghan Markle. Her features would be perfect for an elf woman.

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>nope, and you didn't
Yes, I did though
>Now that you've been...
Woah, hold on a second there fuckboi
>Of the human kingdoms, the high elves have the closest relationship with the magocrats of the Kirin Tor, as elves have been allies and productive members of the Kirin Tor for over 2,000 years.[56] The high elf prince Kael'thas Sunstrider even served on its ruling council, and it was not uncommon for high elf mages to study, serve, and even live in Dalaran in addition to Quel'Thalas. Grand Magister Rommath spent much of his life in Dalaran as a high elf, and Vereesa Windrunner was married to its leader. The Kirin Tor have even granted the high elves a safe haven in Dalaran after their exile from Quel'Thalas,[citation needed] and Dalaran serves as a home for the Silver Covenant, the most prominent group of modern high elves.
Oh wow look at this, quotes that prove you were being a cherrypicking faggot about this info.

For me it’s a nice human girl who worships the Holy Light.

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>Still sleepy? Come cuddle with me, sweetie.

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Except this hate was gone in Wc3. And this wasn't even hate that much. It was more a matter of "we can't live together because our way of life is different, byebye".
And the worst part is that in WoW, they side with HUMANS, which means that their hate of magic is gone as well.

How many kilometers of draenei futacock did you suck today, human boy?

>For me it’s a nice human girl who worships the Holy Light.


enjoy only having missionary sex through a hole in a sheet lol

>Oh my he’s spying on us again darling.
>Is he...pleasuring himself?
>I wouldn’t call it that with that kind of tiny thing.
>We should stop.
>Nonsense. Let him watch. Maybe he can see the difference between your massive cock and his tiny little prick.

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Neither makes sense at all. Horde with belfs and alliance with nelfs. They should be their own separate thing.

youtube.com/watch?v=Cd64UTMXsy8

nigga trolls get killed by sunlight

No the worst part is that in Cataclysm they welcome the surviving Highborn back into their ranks so there can be night elf mages.

She's mixed, idiot.

>Humans are the Jews
>Not the literal (((Goblins)))

Ever heard of the one drop rule? According to white people, she's fully BLACK.

you are nitpicking to a single point lost in a timeskip between arthas rezzing kelthuzad and illidan slamming his giant demon cock against the frozen thone causing scourge members around the planet to regain consciousness
nobody knows what sylvanas did during that timeframe
it's just retarded, sylvanas saw her ancient people and the belves sad their old general
the end
stop re-imagining15 years old lore with the notions of today
and dalaran got destroyed in the third war
and it still doesnt disprove my argument of how elves never really cared about the humans
but the kirin tor and dalaran aren't the whole elven kingdom, are they now?
so what's is it?
elves caring about humans or the kirin tor caring about humans?
make up your mind, instead of moving the goalposts
you giant fucking nigger
>cherrypicking faggot
i could say the same about you
you have been utterly defeated now, time to scurry back to your furry infested alliance

No, that part makes sense after Wc3, and especially after that they became purple high elves in WoW.
It's still funny how they switch Tyrande according to what the plot demands :
>we need nelf mage, let's make Tyrande nice to highbornes
>we need another elf race in Horde, let's make Tyrande a bitch.

I thought Goblins were italians from New Joizy?

Sylvanas was under scourge during a long time. She killed the humans refugees with Arthas for exemple. They all know she was raised during the Scourge and all know the fucking story of the Forsaken since they fucking alled with them.

Trust me. If you are from Jersey or New York even if you are Catholic, you’re Jewish.

Childhood is rolling female blood elf to not be a goofy queer male
Adulthood is rolling male blood elf for the perfect casting animations and to be a chad

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>Yes, good job little one, you stabbed him right when he thought he could have his way with me. With him dead I'll have claim to all his territory. Now come young one, let me reward you with a superior hybrid heir...

she was a random generic banshee
she didn't regain possession of her own corpse way until she became aware of herself again and not a slave of the orc icicle
again, you are nitpicking
>NOO THEY KNEW IT WAS HER
they didnt
you're making headcanon with every single post
it's time to stop, user

real women play female tauren or male characters

Bueno

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>enjoy only having missionary sex through a hole in a sheet lol
Thanks!

No, never heard of that, you sound retarded.

>and dalaran got destroyed in the third war
It was still alive and kicking in WoW, user.
>and it still doesnt disprove my argument of how elves never really cared about the humans
It directly does, user. It even mentions in that quote how some elves married humans
>but the kirin tor and dalaran aren't the whole elven kingdom, are they now?
So? Lorderon and the Alliance in WC2 wasn't all the humans.
>elves caring about humans or the kirin tor caring about humans?
The Kirin Tor is primarily humans, user. It was near Lorderon, founded by humans.
>make up your mind, instead of moving the goalposts
It's hilarious you accuse others of moving goalposts, that's all you've been doing, lol

God I just want to have loving sex with a Lightforged Draenei for the purpose of procreation.

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This.

No she wasn't. She was a hero unit during wc3 tft.
Why do you pretend that you played Wc3 wowbab?

>I’m so glad you’re alright.
>It was nothing. The boy was weak and couldn’t pierce my armor. Fool.
>Haha. Well we have him tied up. Shall we make him watch?

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Will you hold hands too?

You must be European. In America, if you have even a fraction of Black blood, you are fully Black, period.

youtube.com/watch?v=BrbppVlPpG4

Of course, that makes the future soldier of the light we produce even stronger.
I think.

>I’m almost done with today’s shopping darling. Do you think I can use some of our savings to get a new hammer for our forge?

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Draenei women have horse dicks though, no thanks

>they're literally just white/asian girls
How the fuck are they Asian?

hey Jamie, bring up that video of that game whats it called, World of Warcraft classic? yeah that's crazy man, look at those que's

>Also how come no Black women elves?
That defeats the purpose.

Blood Elf women belong to Blood Elf men.
Period.

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Look thats only half of them. A 50/50 shot aint bad.

>It was still alive and kicking in WoW, user.
no it wasn't
it was a sloppy retcon they pulled first with wow with the stupid arcane bubble and then with wotlk
>It directly does, user. It even mentions in that quote how some elves married humans
some =\= the entire elven race
again, moving the goalposts
>So? Lorderon and the Alliance in WC2 wasn't all the humans.
so what? is this another retarded tangent of an hypothesis of yours?
>The Kirin Tor is primarily humans, user. It was near Lorderon, founded by humans.
oh so now it wasn't just elves, was it? :^)
>It's hilarious you accuse others of moving goalposts, that's all you've been doing, lol
i mean you've been proven wrong over and over again, and you're still posting trying to save your ass with pathetic mirror climbing, goalpost moving and other lowly tentatives to save your face
how about accepting defeat?
i know who you are.
i'd kick you off 100 more times if i could, furry degenerate.
now THAT'S a yikes from me
how do I know you've never played wc3?

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>blood elf """men"""
lmao you're killing me bro

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Yeah the human men have to save room for those goblin chicks

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They belong to Orc men.
>tfw the Orcs raped your kind so hard that they willingly join you faction after that

Objectively false.

You tell me

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Theres not enough spunk in the world to fill a goblin.

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Their eyes. Elves tend to have asian shaped eyes, also the cheekbones. Also some tend to have asian hairstyles, like those high ponytails.

Finally, we can get this fucking thread started.

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Anyone who says this is mentally ill

>no it wasn't
You admit in the next line that it is, don't be dumb
>some =\= the entire elven race
You were arguing that the entire Elven race hated humans, user
>again, moving the goalposts
lol
>so what? is this another retarded tangent of an hypothesis of yours?
It was refuting your point that Kirin Tor and Dalaran weren't all the Elves, can't you read?
>oh so now it wasn't just elves, was it? :^)
What wasn't just Elves? The Kirin Tor was always founded by humans.
>i mean you've been proven wrong over and over again
But you haven't proven me wrong at all, it's actually rather funny

For me, it's Draenei women

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>liking green skin

Yuck, the worst of any inhuman skintone. Even drow black is better than fucking green.

We need more gruff scarred elves.

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Fuck discussing Elves let's just post Goblins
Nah green is awesome

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do i have to post it again?
because i'll do so then
at this point it's clear i have won the argument and you are just trying to shitpost yourself up of the ditch you've dug for yourself
i love winning and being right.
god i love it so much.
how does it feel to be a loser, user?

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>You want to learn magic? Leave that kind of stuff for the Humans.

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Ay.
Also more chad Elves.

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Glad to see you're conceding the argument, user. That's very big of you.

God why cant human females be real

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goblin women features look too black for me

yep, you've given up with this last post.
at least you're fair sport and you know when to give up.
sure feels good to be right.

>I'm pretending to be retarded!
Oh, ok. You weren't being serious. That makes a lot more sense now.

peak latinas are hotter than peak white women, but white women look better in general

Chad elves are the gruff scarred elves.

Li Ming isn't fat, this artist sucks ass

I just posted Sylvanas as a Dark Ranger in Wc3. You can't even click on the pic?
You know that Dark Ranger was a hero unit in Wc3, right WoWbab?
You know that the undeads yell "MY LIFE FOR NER'ZHUL", right?
If your tranny race hates Arthas because of his race, therefore they must hate every Undead and never join them.

Night elves seem to be easilly forgotten.

You already conceded, user. Don't need to do it again, I got the point.

>chad
>literally licks the bolls of the Orc BVLLS while they breed their women.

wow.gamepedia.com/Sylvanas_Windrunner_(Warcraft_III)#Banshee
not an argument.
why are you still posting?
but most importantly, why are you still pretending to be two different posters?
samefagging wont bring you anywhere
god i haven't btfo someone like you in ages
fucking lmao dude

>ywn have a wholesome Dwarf gf who makes weapons and armor for you.
Life isn’t fair at all bros.

>More than one person calling you a moron
>Duuuuh must be samefag
No it's just very obvious you're dumb

>i-im not samefagging i s-swear
TOPKEK

>alliance welcomes death knights back with open arms
>scourged? Kill em all

>I-I'm not bothered by you calling me dumb
lol

>Human women
Yeah right. Now you're pushing it.
This thing is too unreal even for Fantasy.

You're all the bitches of a female corpse and do what she says. You're in no position to say things like these pussy.

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cope harder, samefag ;)

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She's a DARK RANGER in TFT WAIFUFAG

wtf kind of church lets women dress like that? you can see her damn thighs.

Keep pretending to be retarded, user. I'm sure multiple people will keep calling you dumb in the future too.

All the orc women are BOUNCING on BEC. Get fucked orc scum.

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Nope, Horde = Orcs. That's why Saurfang is getting rid of the ulgy corpse asap.

she was a BANSHEE UNIT BEFORE TFT YOU FAGGOT
you probably weren't even born back then and you played tft first, like the good faggot you are
faggot
s e e t h i n g

>s e e t h i n g
Anyone who says this is seething themselves

>no high/blood elf ethnostate server.
it's torture

t. seething

Finally you admit it. Thanks god.
I don't give a fuck that she was a banshee btw. Your argument is destroyed since she gained her body back during wc3.

Imagine being attracted to arcane addicted elf whores

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Proving my point

Dear god this thread.
Whats with all these faggots being allured to belfs or wannabe trannies playing female elves.

The only good female is undead with the option for a skeleton face and doing cool flips and attacking like a warcraft 3 ghoul with fist weapons.

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>her body back during wc3
nope, she did in tft
my argument still stand, you're still a seething faggot nigger
t. still seething

>ywn be forced to kneel infront of her as she chokes you with her massive thighs

Why are we here?

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Draenei girls are the toppest tier and I dislike how futafags picked them up.

Still proving my point

Nope, belf men don't get shit. They will just take care of our half orc babies while we fuck their wives.
Why do you think that the belf join the horde in the first place?
We pounded the pussied of their women so hard that they became addicted to it.
Only the windrunner still hate us because we couldn't get our hands on her, but it's going to change. Thrall's balls!

>The only good female is undead
You lost me