Why do people pick Sith over Jedi?

either way, they're those kinds of people who try to train themselves in no-touch kung fu like this guy lol
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Sith are unironically pretty fucking interesting, they have a pretty big history and I really like the rule of two and dynamic between master and apprentice.

Why would you pick Jedi over Sith anytime? If you are a Sith then you get to enjoy the good things in life. The only thing you have is no fun light side faggots fucking with you.

>Light Side Jedi:Generic do gooder
>Dark Side Jedi:Edgelord
>Dark Side Sith: Edgelord
>Light Side Sith: Interesting and pragmatic

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I just want to play as an edgelord.

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test

peak sith aesthetics

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Sith look cooler.
Also LS Sith is the best way to play

Pretty much.

Novelty.

Also being a light side sith is pretty based.
Everyone hates you for being a filthy do-gooder but can't do anything about it because you're still powerful, and that's what counts.

Conversely, being a dark side jedi isn't nearly as cool.

DS Jedi is the fucking worst.

Light Side Sith just sounds like chaotic good.

MURDER AND MAYHEM AWAIT

Seems like he hasn't quite gotten down the trick of sticking himself back together like Darth Sion.

Why exactly would you pick Jedi? They are more restrictive Paladins. You can't love, have strong emotions or actually have fun. You are more boring than fucking Monks and can't enjoy anything.

Strictly speaking not being a Jedi doesn't make you a Sith. Its just a weird religious issue as you would think most people would be neither Jedi or Sith and just be regular people and neither really good or really evil and just use their powers for extremely mundane things.

hold the fuck up, light side sith? what?

They are cooler yeah

Why do people care about Star wars?

>No star wars 1313
>no updated version of starwars movie battles 2
>no good star wars games under EA
why even live
Lucas was handing out the star wars licences for vidya left and right and now its locked to one of the worst companys out there

Someone chaotic good would never side with the empire for any reason

I found it more like someone who just chose the wrong side. Hell lightside sith imperial agent can literally be a double agent for the republic.

>They are more restrictive Paladins. You can't love, have strong emotions or actually have fun.

you can, you're just not supposed to. a jedi character is still human and there's interesting conflict in a person striving for unattainable ideals

Why is the star wars eu so cool? Why can't we get a new big star wars game? Do I really have to play kotor or tor? I haven't played any of them

What does KOTOR have to do with Star Wars?

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You can make good or evil choices regardless of which side you pick. Some people use that to play characters with alignments that run contrary to their faction.

Light Side Sith Warrior was kino.

Jedi absorb lightning. And oh yeah CHEAT DEATH.

In-game it was more like that
>DS Sith wants power for himself
>LS Sith wants power for the Empire

It's actually quite the opposite in Lawful Neutral
The Light Side Sith doesn't shy away from violence and conquest when needed but doesn't revel in it, always opting for a more a more viable option. Underlings aren't killed on the spot for 1 failure (which is one kill for the enemy) but are sacrificial lambs for a potential victory. Promises and deals are made but actually kept, rather than baseless and self destructive treachery. Most importantly, they believe status should be derived from actual skill and advocates for soldiers of alien races with high potential to be promoted over spoiled blue-blood nobles who cheat the system to achieve higher positions than they deserve

Rent free

Also your crippling weakness. Only pathetic losers fall.

I always play LS, but my main is Sith Inquisitor. I thinks he’s a much more interesting character than a LS jedi

Basically It's siths loyal to the Empire but not wanting to be edgelords for no reason, working to change it from the inside.

Literally with light side sith it was basically realizing why imperials were losing so bad. "Hey maybe we should let other races join us and stop doing this stupid backstabbing shit to one another."

Light side Sith Warrior is unironically a far better story than any Jedi character.

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>cooler
Sith are the Emos of the galaxy. So no.

For me it's because the inquisitor is such a charming jackass

Running around in black armored robes with a red double blade is much cooler than running around in burlap like faggot

GIVE ME BACK MY MONSTER

It's not about anything unattainable. Justice is first in a Jedi's mind and that motivates serious action but a Jedi is free to be as joyful as he wants.

Force Lightning is busted and doesn't really have a light side analogue

Like Jedi have """healing""" and defensive redirection and shit but lightning just straight up has no counter beyond 'be a master jedi i dunno lul', it's too fucking good as a power

Yaaaawwwwn.

Yeah, to weak edgy tards. Dressing to intimidate and doing so in such a safe manner is cowardly and top cringe.

They are pointless ideals though. The only reason Jedi exist is because they are ambitious and striving for more power without relying on their emotions to do so. However without this desire and ambition there is no lure of the Dark Side for quick power. A plumber who just uses his powers to unclog shitters isn't going to fall to the Dark Side because he isn't striving for more power so he can emotionlessly kill more people in combat.

Jedi only exist because they want to because they don't want to rely on emotions for power but still want more of it.

The Sith aren't "edgelords" for no reason. The Sith are not mindless butchers, they just believe in capturing the power of the force and using it to their will instead of living in harmony with it and trying to keep some kind of faggy """""balance""""". Imagine being a light sided cuck.

>You can't love, have strong emotions or actually have fun.

So like everyone on Yea Forums?

Siths who put the interest of the Empire before theirs.

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Damn, this thread made me miss my Inquisitor. She was my alt but I kinda fell in love with her... Now I'm reinstalling the game.

All Siths do that. The difference is they don't use the dark side of the force, they use the light. Basically you're making a distinction between Sith and dark side.

>You can't love
Men cant really feel love, atleast not in any real sense anyways, so they might as well be jedi. Men are really good at pretending to feel love, emulating it almost perfectly, like an autist mimicking social que's. But the love a man feels will forever be stunted by their deadened emotions and high libido

They're totally edgelords for no reason. They throw a hissy fit and get superpowers from a living font of insanity, and think that's what strength amounts to.

Whatever bro. You sound like a 40 year tabletop faggot who cant get over WEG

Sith are Edgelords and Jedi are pointlessly pious. One of the few EU things I liked was the Fel Empire which had a "Jedi" Emperor but was neither a Jedi or a Sith. Both sides are pointlessly dogmatic as their are situations where both of their ideals are useful and appropriate. Murdering everyone isn't always the best solution and neither is thinking about it and meditating because if you were to act it would be out of anger so you are not allowed to.

Daily reminder
>the Separatists were in the right
>Count Dooku, General Grievous, Cad Bane, Jango Fett were all cool motherfuckers
>the Trade Federation was morally justified in blockading Naboo

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>act like an edgy war machine
>actually a softie with his tiny twi'lek wife and cute earnest apprentice
>not a retarded murder hobbo but also not a retarded no fun allowed jedi
Kino

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Men are far more capable of abstract emotion than women. Women can't comprehend honor and dedication so they incapable of the level of love a man can have.

So am I your bro or a faggot, kid? You have some stuff to figure out.

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The Empire in TOR is a super interesting faction, with layers upon layers.

Outwardly, it's a totalitarian militaristic country.
The military is everywhere, and there is a strict hierarchy. There are powerful families, where bloodline is valued since it's related to being strong in the force, and inferior aliens are usually enslaved.
But then, at the core of this empire you have the Sith, and Sith doctrine is anathema to hierarchy, because to them, there is no hierarchy but power. Your bloodline is worthless if you personally are not strong, and even an alien slave can rise to become a powerful Sith lord. At the same time, the Sith Emperor, who could turn this thing into something orderly by virtue of being too powerful to challenge, is absent, leaving the Dark Council to scheme endlessly against each other.

And then you have Imperial Intelligence, who's the secret police in charge of making this mess continue to look as cohesive as it seems at a first glance.

So yeah, Empire is actually the more interesting faction.

>All Siths do that
No they really don't
Every Sith who's not LS is only thinking about how the Empire can benefit them, from eliminating powerful allies to reduce compitition, to discriminating against aliens to inflate the importance of their bloodline, the current Sith system is a failing one, which is why they can't defeat the Jedi despite all their restrictions

>So men are willing to die for the women they love but its fake because there is a jaded roastie that can't handle that there are women more attractive than she is
>Women are unwilling to die for the men they love and will instantly hide behind them when danger arises
This is why you are alone.

Kreia was right. It's sickening that the fate of a person is designated by this conscious entity that can decided a persons fate. The Force should have been destroyed. To align oneself with such ambiguous terms of 'light' and 'dark', 'good' and 'evil' is a slight on one's being. A person is much more than their observed actions, and they are definitely beyond good and evil. People hold onto the force because they know no better.

Jedi are pretty restricting, can't show affection/emotions. Plus LS Sith is really fun and interesting

Agreed. Also Imperial Agent is a fun ride.

It's less about villainy and more about how both of those factions are simply more interesting than their counterparts.

>Gee Billy, why does you mom let you wear TWO nintendo power gloves!?!

>Men are far more capable of abstract emotion than women
objectively false. Estrogen quite literally heightens all of your emotions, its why women are so fucking emotional all the time, they literally feel emotions at a level you never will.
>This is why you are alone.
Oh no, honey, sweetie, i havent been without sex or love since i was 18. go project somewhere else

Was it ever even confirmed which "side" is stronger. Or does it vary on the individual's talent and willpower? Sometimes it felt like Sith overpowered Jedi Masters more than the Jedi overpowered the Sith, so sometimes I was lead to believe Sith were actually better fighters and stronger overall.

Grievous did nothing wrong. Fuck the jedi, Kaalesh blood is on their hands.

Jedi have more plot armor, so the comparison is worthless.

>All Siths do that
No, otherwise the empire wouldn't be riddled with intestinal wars/conflict, plus the code sith itself is about gaining strength for yourself and only yourself.

You're ignoring the abstraction angle.

>implying whores can't be alone

The two sith classes have different stories, and the light side for either feels quite different.

The sith warrior is someone who comes from a bloodline that generated many sith strong in the force. He is basically a noble. And the light side sith warrior is a noble who cares about the well-being of his subjects.

The sith inquisitor on the other hand is a slave who becomes a sith because he's strong in the force. When you play light side as a sith inquisitor it's probably more like what you're imagining.

>Estrogen heightens emotions
Yes and it does nothing to change the fact that women feel a smaller range of them because of how their brain functions. Women are quite literally incapable of understanding honor or self sacrifice for anything that isn't their child and even then its questionable.

>the best race literally got bred out of existence by humans

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You are acting like they were arguing honestly in the first place. Its either a False flagging Alt-Righter, A tranny or some angry feminist and there is no honestly in how they argue. Its purely to make people angry.

Because post prequel canon jedi are fucking robots. I'd rather be an edgelord than some soulless monk.

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For me, it's the red lightsaber

>horde
>evil

Neither side is stronger, it's all in willpower and practice with the Force. Sith tended to have greater willpower, but Jedi were more 'in tune' with the Force.
The problem is that Sith tended to be borderline insane killing machines who poured all of their time into combat, while Jedi were scholars and healers just as much they were fighters, so when it came to the actual fighting, Sith were usually the winners.

Sith are in the right

Men do have an easier time loving abstract things.

That's not necessarily a good thing.

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I think I'm a shit person so I tend to play villains just in case they get fucked in the end.

>Estrogen quite literally heightens all of your emotions, its why women are so fucking emotional all the time, they literally feel emotions at a level you never will.

This only applies to Anger and Sadness. A woman only truly loves a man with money

>Blue:Normie
>Purple:Mary Sue
>Red:Edgelord
>Gray:Subhuman "I'M NOOTRAL"
>Non-Canon Colors:Snowflake
>Green:Well adjusted and wise adults

>Just an attempt to shame someone so that they stop disagreeing with you
Why are women so predictable?

Regardless of what you personally think, Blizzard thinks Horde are the evil faction, they always did.
>that quest in WotLK where the Horde attacks Alliance in fucking Icecrown for no fucking reason

Sith should be individually stronger but Jedi have to be collectively stronger, if only because they aren't constantly punching down padawans, murdering rivals, and plotting against their masters.

Qui-Gon ain't no robot.

High class cultured opinions, sir.

i'm not a women and i'm not trying to shame you, you flaming homosexual. That doesn't work on anonymous imageboards.

I do like the silver lightsabers as well. It's just that red is my favorite color

>feel a smaller range of them because of how their brain functions
false
>Women are quite literally incapable of understanding honor or self sacrifice f
>has to start talking about different emotions because he knows men cant compete when it comes to love

Oh no... sweetie.. really... moving goalposts is just sad. We are talking about love, not honor. Honor is what men delude themselves into feeling so that they dont have to accept the fact they were tricked into dying for rich people.

>A woman only truly loves a man with money
>t. ugly

And every single piece of EU media, including the movie itself, goes out of it's way to say he's the exception.

BH had the best companions

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Will you faggots stop arguing about women's emotions and just post hot Sith women already? Holy shit

Watch Clone Wars and you'll see he's clearly not.

I like the black cloaks, bonus points if they have hoods.

Women can't compete when it comes to love you shitposting retard. They are incapable of the actual depth of love that extends beyond the raw feeling of "I LOVE YOU SO SO MUCH" which can go away in two seconds. Love involves more than just the simple feeling and a relationship requires more than that to exist. Women will never be able to understand the way a man love them because they are literally not capable of it.

But keep sweetie posting as you keep taking cock and blaming men for not being capable of love when the case is that nobody would ever love you.

That "plot armor" is clearly just the force.

Shit black robes is what I meant, not cloaks.

People like to shit on Skadge but I personally find his tsundere personality really endearing

Light and Dark are very obviously shown to be Strength and Fear. The Sith crave power because they're weak and the Jedi seek Justice because they are strong. There's nothing autistic about Jedi. Watch Obi in Ep. 3.

>Women can't compete when it comes to love you shitposting retard

I've been in relationships with both men and women, many times with each. Being in a relationship with a man feels like having a best friend who you sleep with. Sure there are feelings but ultimately its pretty shallow.

The love that comes from a woman is so much more intense, passionate, soft, tender. If you don't believe me you are more than welcome to try dating a man. You won't of course, because you know that being with women is objectively a better relationship.

There is a reason why gay men just want to fuck all day. There is no love, its just lust. Lust is the primary motivating force for all of men.

That wasn't the horde, that was a small sect of forsaken.

Stop talking you fags, nobody cares about you being pissy at each other.

Women are people, Kiddo. Just stop. Your beliefs are bad and you should feel bad.

Not him but, what you call "depth of love" isn't really love of a person, but love of an idealized form, the very idea of a loved one. Which is what men usually do when they love someone.

I think men love ideas more easily than people, which is why they do this.

Conversely, women love people more easily than ideas, which is why their love of an idea usually involves loving a person who is involved in it.

Look at this prime example of a pathetic Sith. Look at his spazzy anger.

NOPE i'm not talking about that cinematic, i'm talking about a quest in Icecrown.

>the forever alone beta jedi lashes out in anger and jealousy as he realizes all of his emotions are dulled

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Lmao cope jedi fag. The Sith draw on negative energy and use that to control the force, they aren't weak. They're much more powerful than the Jedi. The Sith crave power and dominance to eventually instill order and rule.

Jedis are evil
>kidnap children at young age and indoctrinate them to have them do work for them
>can't fug

>Yellow: Temple Neet

Alright Brehs gonna start TORtanic
just some questions

>What is the best non Jedi Story?Heard imperial agent is kino but what else?
>this whole series of storilines with that bearded jedi and his sons then the edgelord daughter are separated of the normal storylines?

Jedi:
> Seperate force-sensitive children from their parents, so they can indoctrinate them not to love anyone. If the kids are old enough to have bonded with their parents, they are too old
>Believe they are the balance the Force needs, attempting to kill any Sith possible, even when the Jedi outnumber the sith by massive margins. The true balance of the force is to have Dark side and Light.

Sith
>"Through passion I gain strength. Through strength I gain power. Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. In other words, they value power so much because it allows them to have the most freedom, not necessarily because they wish to use it to subdue innocents.
>Get hunted down by massive amounts of Jedi for simply valuing their emotions and not joining their religion

The factions were at war by that point.

never being able to have sex is retarded.

>he chose a pure lightside sith warrior

probably the most chad move beside vanguard trooper

God tier
Imperial agent
Great tier
Sith warrior
Good tier
Bounty hunter
Smuggler
Jedi knight

On paper they were right, but their actions and being controlled from the shadows by the sith made them immediately wrong

>>What is the best non Jedi Story?Heard imperial agent is kino but what else?
Agent and Sith Warrior are the two best ones, with Inquisitor being a close third.
Trooper is generic but not awful, has some high points.
BH and Smuggler can be hit or miss, I hear they both really drop off in later stages but early on are good.
Consular is boring as shit.

nu-Horde are more good guys than the Alliance though

Thanks

lightning is chad, as usual

One side offers vanilla shit like pushing/pulling while the other becomes fucking Thor and drops force nukes on people. They just have the cooler powers.

is it possible to be a well adjusted person and use the dark side of the force or will it always just turn someone into a power hungry psychopath

Because the Jedi are a bunch of fucking assholes, that's why.
They knowingly serve, without question, a corrupt Government while claiming they "serve the Force".
They rip children from their parents, often against the wishes of the parents.
Oh, and then there's the literal brainwashing to get their way.
They """claim to seek peaceful resolutions""" but they are the first to light-up their lightsabres during difficult situations.
Hell, if the Books are suddenly canon again, then they commit genocide before their enemies even get together to do anything "bad" - see the Mandalorians.
Their Dogma will eat your Karma after carving it with their lightsabres.
They believe that all species have the same mentality in how they approach interpersonal relationships (which is VERY anti-alien), forcing more Jedi to turn Chaotic Evil than a thousand years worth of shadow Sith.
More proof that they hate aliens? They straight-up refer to Jar Jar as "yet another pathetic life form". Sure, he is, but "yet another"? Racist much.
They all fellate the idea of a not-Jesus-Christ """Chosen One""" so hard that they cause the person they think IS the chosen one to turn baby killer.
But they also refuse to fucking trust their own foot soldiers.
The "Jedi Council" is lead by 2 literal 800-year-old "forever emperor zealots" who can never get elected off and can only step down, which won't happen because they "love democracy"... what?!
They lie to each other all time time while firmly believing that they know absolutely best as being a Jedi makes them infallible.
Rule of law only applies when it suits them, otherwise assassinations, murder, and maiming are totally cool and the best way to go about spreading the way of the Jedi.
And why did they never question where the fuck that totally convenient clone army came from... are they all stupid or something?
That war with the Sith thousands of years ago that caused the movies to happen? Jedi started it. Genocide. They're fond of that.

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It ain't really that they're more evil(which they are), it's because it's more interesting. Rebels and Alliance both feel like you're just player fantasy EU, which is just plain boring.

Yes. The Force is just a tool, how you use it doesn't matter. The problem is that Dark-Side aligned powers tend to drive people towards being power hungry psychopaths, since when you can shoot lightning from your fingertips and crush people's throats with your mind then why should you play by the rules?

>muh rich people

Sith don't use the force, the force uses them

The blockade was 100% a farce, though.

Fuck you, yellow is where it's at.

is TOR pre darth bane?

#owned

Yes

Yes. Notice that there are more than two (2) sith in the game.

Yes, he comes later and establishes the Rule of Two because all the Sith kept backstabbing each other to near extinction.
He also was a big guy, being 2 meters tall.

the problem is that the Force pulls you in one of either directions depending on your choices. you cannot be an agnostic Force user. you eventually have to choose because the Force will force you to.

>Lust is the driving force for men
>But women are pure creatures who love purely
>And not because of status, wealth or security
Get a load of this faggot. What you are doing is called idealizing women. Its stupid and you are objectively incorrect and not only that you are casting all men as being purely lust driven bro's who can't be soft, tender or passionate and basically calling all gay men lust driven idiots who are inferior to lesbians.

My gut reaction was that you were just some guy who put pussy on too much of a pedestal. After reading this I'm more convinced you are one of the lesbians that the entire fucking LGBT community hates because they are misandrists that nobody fucking likes. Which makes sense.

>lightside sith
how the fuck does this work? i've never played this game

>how you use it doesn't matter
Pretty sure that's wrong and actually using dark side powers will fuck you up mentally

How grindy is it? Like could I complete the whole mainstory without having to collect 50 space bear asses ever? I keep hearing some of the stories are good to great but I don't want to have to do gay ass collect 50 nutsack quests just to level up to be able to finish it. Also, average amount of hours to complete one class main story?

Jedi are the ones who serve the force.
They say so themselves.

The game has choices that are classified as LS or DS. Lightside choices on a Sith tend to be more rational and merciful choices, and this is treated in game as something crazy to see a Sith choose, like you literally baffle a jedi with you being a decent person.

>be light side sith warrior
>find noble who tried to have you killed
>not personal it was just their plan to move upwards in society
>"Im not going to kill you, but you are going to serve me in life, or I'll send your children to war and who knows if they'll come back from that"

>dark side sith
>noble tries to kill you to move up
>YOUR FAMILY IS FORFEIT, NOW GIVE ME ALL YOUR MONEY, AND NOW YOUR SON HAD HIS NECK SNAPPED, AND NOW YOUR HOME BURNS TO THE GROUND

Force doesn't pull shit. Its just the natural effect that having power like that and finding the most effective ways to use it. Sith exist because using their emotions is an easy way to get strong. Jedi exist because they want to get strong but don't want to be a slave to their emotions and instead become slaves to their fears.

>no star wars game where you just play a space cowboy Han solo type, and don't give a shit about all the jedi and sith and muh good resistance vs evil empire gay bullshit
I hate the star wars mythos so much, but love the aesthetics of tatooine cantinas and low tech contraband spaceships etc

I haven't played it in some time, but last time I checked most of those shitty sidequests are completely skippable with you able to level by just doing your class questline and the planetary questline.

I think a while ago they increased leveling speed a lot.
So you won't need to do many quests besides the class quests.

That said, the game is now ((free to play)) so a lot of "totally optional" things like RUNNING require you to pay.

Its kind of incorrect to call it Light Side when its more "Smart Evil" than the Chaotic Evil of true Dark Side.

An empire ran by "Light Side" Sith would be basically unstoppable as they come off as the most reasonable people in the setting.

>Tfw when everyone picks either the virgin Sith or Jedi but nobody picks the Chad redpilled no longer canon Grey Jedi?

Jedi is usually unbelievably poorly implemented in these games

just look at KotOR 1
>run around doing annoying fetch quest with backtracking
>ends with you giving the questgiver money
>all you get is usually some useless item and the ability to buff yourself 3 rounds of combat mildly affecting dicerolls
meanwhile on the darkside
>meet questgiver
>immediately kill questgiver for their money
>get their money and overpowered ability to nuke entire room with lightning usually instakilling enemies

It's also just less fun. Like 100% of the fun in KotOR1 is based on being a mustache twirling villain who's needlessly evil to a comical extent. Bland helpful nice guy is awful.

Kyle Katarn was an absolute chad.

>dgelord
most of the time

Cool. While on the same topic, how much of the main quests are collect 50 bear asses? Like if you would compare it to a classic bioware RPG like KOTOR or DA:O how grindy is it? I really don't give a fuck about the MMO aspect and just want another KOTOR even if it's inferior to the past ones.

I don't really mind paying a sub for a month or 2 of play if I can do all the class stories in that amount of time without pointless grind.

>single
pleb
>dual
edgelord
>staff
mary sue
>pike
enlightened
>reverse grip
full retard
>any combination of the above
subhuman
>anything not listed like light whips and lightsaber armor
out the airlock you go

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The Empire are the good guys.

>An empire ran by "Light Side" Sith
Would be neither "Sith" nor "Empire"

>Grey Faggots
>Chad

Yea Kotor has the reverse problem from most RPGs. Most RPGs have the "Be a good guy and do cool quests or be literal Satan and punch babies and miss out on half of the content".

and don't you ever forget it

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I hope the next Star Wars trilogy focuses on the sith doing cool fun shit

grey jedi seem like holier than thou fags just like centrists in real life

>"grey jedi"
This term irks me immensely for some reason. Like I get what they are going for, a Force user who is more neutral aligned and uses DS powers occasionally, but calling it a Grey Jedi feels like a incredible misnomer.
Jedi as a rule are a Light side aligned religion, so by claiming you are one but you break some of their most important tenets, but its totally cool bro I'm still cool and good is fucking wrong. Its like saying I'm a Grey Catholic because I believe, but don't go to church at all and break the commandments daily.

The personal term I came up for them was Grey Sovereigns.

in real life im a "grey satanist"

>but don't go to church at all and break the commandments daily.
So you're a Protestant then

>Sith Code's wording has wiggle room to be non-evil, just passionate
>Jedi Code only allows for unemotional robots

It's easier to see yourself in it

There is even the term "Dark Jedi" referring to the pre-sith dark side guys.

That is probably the funniest reply I have read in the past month.

they mention dark jedi in "starwars gangster rap" as well. deepest lore.

And by serving the Force they have more freedom than the Sith ever do, who become chained and enslaved by their passions until they're tools of the Dark Side to spread misery.

>Jedi spend all their time turning Padawans into robots
>They finally get a taste of freedom and go full Sith because of years of repression and not being able to do things every human does
Really the biggest flaw is that they try to stamp out emotion rather than just teaching them not to rely on it for the sake of the power. You would have far fewer Sith if Jedi could go fuck, have families and have fun whenever they wanted to without having to deal with the Jedi Inquisition for having their dick sucked and liking it.

You’re pure soi

Cause originally there was no "light side" and the Jedi were all about balance.

No they get sterm twi'lek masters instead

Sounds like a sith trick

this OP embodies everything I hate about this board? What the fuck are you even talking about you retard? I mean, if it's an RPG or any type of game with multiple "paths", then playing the "bad" route offers a new experience. Are you asking why people ever choose the "bad" route in games in general? It's because often it increases replayabiity. Oh wait, your thread was just a meaningless shitpost thread, and I'm the sucker for overthinking it. Fuck you faggot. Yes I'm mad.

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I'd rather be a slave to myself than a slave to some thoughtless entity.

jedi are fucking pussy retards. The jedi that followed revan and malak into the mandalorian wars were completely right while the council debated about nothing and let millions more die. Jedis inaction is just as wrong as sith action

while i agree that OP is a fag, the thread is pretty insightful if you read it.

I want to be a jedi but I also want to wear a black cloak and use a red lightsaber. Am I falling to the dark side?

Nah you're fine.
Better stay away from younglings just to be sure though.

So you agree that both religions are not for you

That isn't true at all. Blizzard consistently goes out of their way to not only make the horde look like good guys and the alliance look like bad guys. As far back as Warcraft 2.

Depends on the person desu, but the Empire has superior planet questlines and superior dialog. I haven't finished the Jedi Knight, Trooper or Smuggler storylines, but Empire has the better class stories (except for BH, BH sucks after CH 1.)

Personally (and I haven't finished Jedi Knight, Trooper or Smuggler yet), Imperial Agent is the best class story. Inquisitor is my number two and the most funny story of them all. Sith Warrior is a constant power trip and very enjoyable. Bounty Hunter sucks after Ch.1 and is the worst. Jedi Consular was fun, and your generic Star Wars LS Jedi story, where you basically play as Luke/Obi-Wan. Jedi Knight is ok, you play as an Anakin kind of Jedi, and the entire premise behind the second chapter is retarded. No comment on Trooper or Smuggler yet.

trooper and smuggler are dull. darkside trooper is kinda funny because of how many warcrimes you can commit.

The Jedi stifle your abilities and emotions so that you can't fully realize your power and live like a fucking human being too. This is one of the reasons why Anakin's destiny was to destroy the old Jedi Order (yes the younglings too, the Jedi Order already corrupted them) along with the old Sith Lords in order to bring balance to the force so that Luke Skywalker could reconstruct the usage and knowledge of it.

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umm sweaty luke didnt make anything as per the movies

Because peace is a lie.

>following nu-canon
lol

Sith warrior is my favorite, maybe because I didn't play agent until after people talked it up a lot and I was a little disappointed - still the second best class story.

The rest are mediocre to poor, including jedi knight. Consular is the only story that is actively bad.

Lightning is pretty easy to counter, either block it with a lightsaber or use tutaminis. Either way unless it’s coming from a top tier Sith it’s not a problem.

>Consular is the only story that is actively bad.

trooper is pretty bad after chapter 1

Kinda hard to top hunting down your former squad in a quest for justice/vengance. Chapter 2 is just a setup for chapter 3 and by then Rakton is easily overshadowed by all the other antagonists.

they have to undo the jedi order in the numovies because they're hack writers who can't come up with an original plot
Movies like Rogue one are fine

The Jedi are full of shit

>remember having emotions is bad
>so is love
>don't go having sex either
>the dark side is wea-

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>force supernova
this DBZ shit is just as bad

Size matters not faggot, literally force 101.

Yeah, getting sent off on random errands by General Grandma when you're the head of an elite special forces squad is pretty dumb. But at least the initial hook was good. And good waifu content.

The only star wars I ever picked jedi over sith was jedi knight 2 because of force heal and force protection.

Was he a Sith? Or just a misguided Jedi?

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it sure does matter since this is a feat that can't be accomplished everyday and is a significant event, are there any other parts in the EU at least where more of this happens?

Many times, yes. By the end Luke was making Force black holes on the regular.

Jedi philosophy is cartoonishly bad and even though Sith are generally portrayed as stupid cartoon villains, the actual belief structure is way more reasonable.

The whole "bring balance to the Force" thing comes with the implicit suggestion that the Jedi aren't right.

The Jedi suck. The rebels suck. Under the Empire everyone prospers. If the Skywalkers control their galaxy then your way of life is fuckes because the other alien species will just invade and conquer not just humanity, but all races. Without the empire the je- the merchants will just enslave everyone.

this

>Bring balance to the force means Jedi aren't right
Its not that I'm disagreeing with the statement that they aren't its just that in their minds balance means zero Sith.

The Sith code is good on paper but in practice just leads to endless backstabbing and total anarchy. You can't have a sustainable society when everyone is constantly fucking killing each other.
The sad truth is the Sith and Jedi both fucking suck, just for different reasons.

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Sith code says nothing about endless backstabbing and total anarchy. Its just that in order for it to be villainous it has to be taken to the logical conclusion even though no reasonable person would actually act that way and no society could have been built in the first place upon that premise.

Embracing the dark side of the force leads to it. It doesn't matter how good your code or intentions are.

The jedi don't become milquetoast windbags for no reason

>Sith are generally portrayed as stupid cartoon villains, the actual belief structure is way more reasonable.
>The Sith
>Reasonable

The Sith are Autocrats that rule with a code/philosophy that embraces a simplified form of Social Darwinism that eventually leads towards self-destruction through Civil War (which destroys the Infrastructure of the Imperial System they continually try build and impose on the Galaxy). They're not reasonable by definition.

You'd have to be insane to think that.

Jedi story was boring and you already knew what would happen, imperial agent had the best story, even if it wasn't perfect.

>rule of two
That comes later after the Sith and Jedi beat the shit out of each other at Ruusan. Darth Bane blames the failure of the Sith on backstabbing and infighting, so he limited the number of sith from a whole lot to 2, a mastermind and a hand.

>>Light Side Sith: Interesting and pragmatic
Absolutely agreed, one of my favorite voices too
youtu.be/Sc9Om7Rd77U

Light Side Sith Warrior > Dark Side Sith Warrior

shut the fuck up """female""" and talk to a man without viewing him as an unfeeling slab of meat with a dick. then you'll find quite quickly that he's probably just as human as you, if not moreso.

this

please

better voice actors

for you

That would be really sick honestly, the Millennium Falcon is peak comfy

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>pure lightside
Nah, there are times where the Dark choice is objectively the correct answer, like choking Quinn the fuck out or refusing to back down from that duel with the Jedi while the cave is crumbling down around you. A Light Sith Warrior that's aggro as fuck but channels it into being the most morally upright Sith. You also have to be a Juggernaut with Type 3 Body.

Is Fireden broken or something? How come I can't use it to look at an archived version of the deleted post?

>don't go having sex either
this is false, jedi were allowed to have sex, but only as one night stands unless it was a special case like ki adi mundi

>picking jedi or shit lmao
>not picking Agent or Bounty hunter and becoming a based fucking boogieman to force cuck
ishygddt
youtube.com/watch?v=CI4Eg4dBPU8

Its usually White People who pick the evil side.

Art imitates life afterall

aaaaaaaa what's a game that isn't kotor or tor but lets me be a custom super dope sith? i wanna hear the lightsaber hum again aaaaaaaa

Ironic considering the white crime rates compared to niggers are leagues different.

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Luke perfects it with the New Jedi Order but in the Old Republic era they get way too stiff and you see the chronic issues crop up every few generations.

>government vote a tax
>WE'LL BLOCKADE THIS REGION UNTIL THE TAX IS REMOVED, FUCK YOU GOVERNMENT
They weren't morally justified at all, it was a move justified only by greed. It's not like the trade federation was ever shown to have their livelihood threatened by the taxation, they only followed a shadowy figure orders who promised them that they'll get more money.

They dont need the high ground

I'd rather be a grey jedi but nu-wars will never allow it

>t. Ugly

No im empirically pretty good looking but if an ugly man had enough wealth he could cuck the fuck out of me even if i was brad pitt. Cope

That's funny I dont remember niggers dropping nukes and fire bombs on civilians

What were the separatists fighting for again? Fuck off prequel babby.

Finances and because Sidious told them to.

Sith end up being far more powerful than Jedi as the dark side is essentially a path to "easy" power.
Darth Vader alone can hunt down multiple surviving Jedi, and Darth Bane's lightning was powerful enough to almost melt his own body into flesh and and was so bright that even sci fi space magic bullshitters had to close their eyes, not to mention that he was capable of fighting multiple incredibly skilled Jedi at once.

Yeah, he is.

It's more like someone who fluctuates between Chaotic Neutral and Lawful Neutral, and generally are the most sane man in the universe.

>Sith have cooler powers
>Jedi act like total virgin ayy lmao robots rather than wise monks that tap into an esoteric power
>Sith have vastly more interesting characters, dynamics and plotlines
>Red and Purple are objectively superior to Blue and Green
>Sith have a vastly better sense of fashion
>Sith are literally more iconic than ANY Jedi (Palpatine and Vader are prevalent in the OT whereas Obi-Wan got fucked, Yoda is a midget toad that died from old age and Luke is a backwards farm boy that got a smidge angry with his green lightsaber that one time)
>Literally, the Jedi Order represent everything shitty about the Star Wars franchise. The only decent Jedi are 'rogue' Jedi or contradict the order's teachings
>Gamers are power-hungry, impotent, virgin nerds that get high off their power fantasies as galactic warlords that conquer the universe and wield godlike powers at their own leisure. Being confined to a gay order of monks that follow retarded limitations and exist to stop people from having fun with their literal god-given powers just destroys the fantasy of having the power in the first place
I could keep going.

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You can tell that the writers cared far more about the empire than the republic.

Nah. I liked Gault, Blizz, and even Mako to a degree, but Torian is a fucking drag.

Because good is dumb

Sith's toys are generally a lot more impressive or iconic looking.

Nothing demonstrates this better than the old republic MMO, where sith cast lightning while jedi throws literally some pebbles.

See threads like this are why I never deleted TOR off my hard drive. Just because every once in a while I get a need to go back to it. Plus that expansion is coming for the first time in what, 4 years? 5 maybe?

TOR sucks

Is the F2P model still restrictive as fuck? Cause not even an expansion would bring me back under that draconian bullshit.

Light side sith warrior with (little evil) is the best character ever designed in star wars... Period

Go full evil on alderaan. Fuck that planet, fuck those evil. The empire did a favor blowing up that shit hole.

To this day I don't understand WHY they were blockading Naboo.

Way more fun to be evil than good in games. If you're good you never get any rewards because you reject everything. If you're evil you get way better rewards

I know they were wriitng in it just as a wink wink nudge nudge, but I cracked a big smile when that nobleman said "I'd rather Alderaan be reduced to space dust than it fall into the hands of the Empire!"

Cause the Jedi way seems way more evil then the Sith !

Way back in the day someone compiled a list on just how retarded, self-contradicting, and keeps retconning itself the Inquisitor storyline is, but that was back in like 2015 and for the life of me I can't find it. But i never noticed that shit before then.

my God I loved that. The galaxy deserves that planet blown up. Pity it took thousands of more years.

2700 years to be exact, and wasn't a moment too soon

Did you mean "gay satanist?"

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Jedi are hypocritical assholes on a power drive. The sith are not hypocritical and are honest as fuck.

I always played that way too.
>female sith inquisitior
>light side
>goes full sith on assholes
I think it helped that the Sith had better voice actors.

This, holy fuck everyone on that planet was such an insufferable stuck-up prick. And you can tell they tried to base House Organna on the Atreides and House Thul on the Harkonnen, and boy did they fuck that up.

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Yea Forums: "ackchyually if you think about it the jedi are way more evil than the sith"
the sith: *tortures and kills people for fun*
*strangles (to death) own minions for delivering unfavorable report*
*constantly commits mass slavery and genocide*

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Bounty Hunter was the most fun. Best quests, best choices, fun to play in pvp as well

Surprisingly, these are all accurate to how their stories play out. Usually there's an exaggeration but they're all on the money here.

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this is why we need a new star wars mmo done right, of course I'll be a Sith just using plebs like you or killing you.

Men are attracted to form. Women are attracted to function. Men love women for who they are, women love men for what they do.

The nature in the way men love has no inherent motivation to lie or manipulate because women don't do anything to earn it.

A woman however, has EVERY reason to lie about her affection, because she is incapable of loving a man for who he is, but rather dependent on him for what he does, and will immediately revoke affection the moment he stops performing for her.

something something nanking and unit 731

Not our fauld niggers are incompetent at warfare

that's funny because we're talking about crime rates not war. Dont be such a nigger

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That isn't entirely true. Its unfair to say women only love men for what they do. However it is the primary motivation for their love in the fist place and failing that will more than likely lead to the relationship ending.

Its an interesting dynamic when it comes to other people and cheating. The biggest difference between how love works becomes obvious. Women cheat but hide it because the person they are with provides for them and they rely on that along with the social stigma and don't want to be blamed or looked at poorly. Men cheat and hide it because they actually care about or love their partner but they wanted to fuck some thot and don't want to hurt their loved ones feelings or if married that and half of their shit.

Cheating on your partner is a horrible thing to do but the motives for women hiding it are a lot more sinister than the motives men have for it.

>that's funny because we're talking about crime rates
other user moved goal posts and was speaking in general. If you're comparing crimes against humanity whites beat everyone. how many times has europe massacred itself and its neighbors? not even china has that kind of kill count

In Knights of the Old Republic the Sith can actually be seen as the good guys.
Firstly, you're lied to about your identity by the Jedi.
Secondly, the Sith/the disobedient Jedi were the ones who intervened against the Mandalorians that would've fucked up the galaxy.
Thirdly, the Sith are capable of mercy in the KOTOR universe.

Your new identity as Revan don't have to be about power if you're Sith. Maybe you want to rule the galaxy to keep the peace better than any Jedi could. These types of morals can be applied freely to Revan, making him a "neutral good" Sith ruler.

>Whites beat everyone
Now you are just being totally retarded. China has a much higher fucking kill count.

I'm not really white so it doesn't matter but the only upside to whites going away is that white liberals like you go away with them. God you are such a fucking waste of air.

Being a Jedi is like being a Sith but with restrictions like if you were a fucking nun

Dark Side Jedi is objectively based. Being an asshole for no absolutely no reason is pretty funny.

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"Evil" options are always more popular because it allows us to live out the little voice in our heads that ask "what if." What if I just punched that crying baby that's been ruining my dinner. What if I just pushed this fag off the cliff right now. What if I just stabbed the other person in the kitchen right now with this knife. We all know we're not allowed to do those things just like you're not allowed to open the car door when you're on the freeway or jump out an open window. But in vidya you can.

>My loyalty to the Empire is unquestionable. My duty is to serve.
One of the best lines in SI storyline.

>want to try tortanic
>remember they implemented romances
>all m/m romances are dogshit garbage
>best gear locked out for subscribers
Well fuck you too for reminding me of this.

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I am installing swtor for the first time because of you fucks. I haven't even seen a star wars movie since 3 came out. I cut it completely out of my life despite kotor being my favorite game growing up. Shill me star wars the old republic and anything else like the movies after 3.

>It used to be that the more human blood one has, the more respected they are.
>It later changed so it's the more Sith blood you have the morr respected you are.
Really makes you think.

>I dont remember niggers dropping nukes
Niggers wouldn't be able to understand the strategy of scaring your opponent so hard that you prevent countless losses on both sides.

>KOTOR
Fun roleplaying experience that actually challenges your morals.
>KOTOR 2
Fun roleplaying experience that changes your morals and leaves you pondering about right and wrong. Also improved engine and refined combat. Excellent characters throughout the entire game.

>When you can tell the gay shit is written by a woman that has never seen or spoken to a man
Every time

I'm married now... But my sister did something so heartless to one of her boyfriends. He was a great guy, an artist, not the best on looks and a but chubby. He shared all of her interest.

One day she just decided. "I want a more secure future" he is an artist and gets payed here and there. She just flat out broke his heart simply because he wasn't more secure and didn't make good money. I still view my sister extremely negatively after this. She's been struggling alone for years trying to find a "richer man". Only to find scumbags and losers barely making more money. It angers me so much. I would never care that my wife will not make any money.

>If you're comparing crimes against humanity whites beat everyone
No you fucking mongrel, the Chinese do. One guy alone does.

Both in the Old Republic Era and the OT Era the most powerful Force ability was a Force Storm. As far as I know, only Darth Nihlus and Darth Sidious could perform them, but they were able to wipe out entire fleets/planets.

They don't have the brain power to make nukes. That's why they're still killing each other with spears in Africa.

>cute male companions everywhere
>can't, date, them.

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>Honor is what men delude themselves into feeling so that they dont have to accept the fact they were tricked into dying for rich people.
Ultimate cuck. People like you should be killed on sight since you'd 100% collaborate with enemies if they invaded your country. Literally a walking threat.

But Sith ARE the good guys

>The only gay romance is with characters that you absolutely hate
I just mod in the regular straight romance like my character was a woman when possible

DOES VETTE EVER COME BACK TO SITH WARRIOR HUSBAND???

>Be really good to vette and make her my wife
>tell her to murder the Hutt as it will benefit everyone that he is dead
>get loving wife with PTSD
BEST OUTCOME

Well with how we are obsessed with sex and everything, can you blame them?

You can mod an mmo?

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not even china has that kind of kill count
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Also,you still comparing crimes to waging wars. You have to be retarded to think africa wouldnt be nuclear wastelands in like a week if nignogs got their hands on nukes. They killing each other constantly, only on relatively small scale because said incompetence.

The empire was always the good guys, even in the first 3 movies. They legit did bring order and peace.

The ONE thing TOR's story really damaged the time period was how they treated Revan/The Exile (friendly reminder: in ALL promotional art/posters the Exile was male). They should've just copied KOTOR II in this regard:
> early in the game you get dialogues where you basically state who Revan/The Exile were, their gender, and whether they chose the Light/Dark Side + maybe some later dialogues covering companions,
>game changes the look/story of those two characters accordingly

Simple, easy, and elegant. But no, Drew was salty about KOTOR II and had to write his stupid novel (which is one of the few EU novels I ignore and treat as non-canon).

Agree on the Sith but there's no reason why it couldn't still be an Empire.

Oh right we're talking about ToR aren't we, the shepard pic threw me off. Yeah fuck the gay ToR romances

Ironically, this is something some of the EU writers caught on, and even started portraying the Emperor as "evil bastard, but actually believed in the good of the Empire".

Oh, you meant Garrus, I still have to play a modded ME2 run to get him. Did the old TOR rpgs had romances?

And then Disney came up with their own retarded canon and turned him into literal Hitler (if I can't rule the Empire, it must be destroyed).

>be the Trade Federation
>end up not only being one of the huge trade guilds, but do a lot of work in securing hyperspace lanes from pirates and the like with your military units
>Republic decides to tax the shit out of certain routes, effectively only taxing you, when you're doing their job for them
>benefactor in the Republic senate suggests you can get what you want (not to get taxed out the ass) by blockading a planet with no standing military
>their lack of imports will show just how important you are to the galaxy and the taxation will stop

Because the Republic completely failed to stop any of the above from happening. Imagine if Disney took over Florida with its own private military and started putting people in camps, and the US government said "we should send a committee to verify if this is actually happening".

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I just liked the option to force lightning people.

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As you grow older the more you see the empire is the good guys and the revels are truly evil as hell.

Literally everything about the empire is for peace. The damn stormtroopers wearing white at all times. How the tie fighters were not designed to kill but only for short range control and enforcement.
How AT AT was only designed to inspire fear not even having ballistic missiles or any weapons designed to wipe out a base of operations.

>first use of death star was on a religious zealot outpost with minimal people
>alderaan blown because it had the least amount of civilians

All of the empires tools was for control. The rebels legit only made weapons.

Imagine unironically saying the Sith are good, when IRL you'd probably call your government tyrannical if they did as little as banning vape juice.

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The retarded expansions are a let down in that regard
Somehow I felt more respected/feared on Tatooine/Alderaan compared to the end game where you can become "Emperor"

>nuke enemy
>war is over and leading to an total elimination.
WHITES AM I RIGHT

Jedi are the tyrannical government that takes children away and brainwashes them into a religious cult that runs the senate behind the scenes.

>Horde
>evil
this is what Allianceboys believe

Ony the Empire was extremely lenient when it came to how people lived their everyday lives:
>no State religion,
>very hands-off approach to governing,
>military governors replacing Senators just because a shitload of said Senators were supporting the Rebellion,
>slavery is banned,
>no all-powerful corporation with FUCKING PRIVATE ARMIES (Trade Federation et. al),

>I would never care that my wife will not make any money.
We, the sexes, do have a tendency to project onto one another and assume that the other side values what we value. It's why a lot of career women think earning money will make more attractive to men and why "nice guys" think that being nurturing and understanding alone will get them girlfriends. Men don't really care about a woman's career and while women may value a kindly man, it takes a backseat to financial success and general competence.

>tie fighter
>hug bulky solar panels
>basic non threatening lazers designed to stun
>no hyperdrive
>locked in a small radius and can't chase targets down
>no ejection as it w a s not designed foe war

Tie fighter...
>missiles
>hyperdrive
>shields
>4 ARMOR DESTROYING LAZERS
>driven by a robot to kill to kill the most people possible

and we are supposed to root for the rebels?

Oh, and one more thing:
>A MERITOCRACY. Even the Emperor had Hands (special agents) who utilised the Light Side, seeing as it is also useful.

The sith believe the force is too much and creates a disturbance. Instead of having a sith army they decided only 2 sith and no jedi is fair. Meanwhile the jedi enforce their thinking to the people and brainwash children.

>jedi
>You're chosen from birth to an academy, go to places as your test, prove yourself. Oh look you did it, great job, you're moving up, oh wow you're practically the chosen one keep going woweee

Meanwhile in the sith story
>You're a fucking slave who was lucky enough to get noticed for force sensitivity
>Get sent to a brutal military academy where sith heirs to galactic kingdoms are competing with you, your teachers remind you that you are still just a slave and will amount to nothing, you only survive by being the baddest mother fucker alive and thinking one step ahead of everyone. Get recognized by a hot milf who treats you like a useful toy for her own reputation. You're basically an imperial dog on a leash.

Sorry I want an actual compelling story in a story driven game.

One side allows you to get as much strange as you want and actively encourages passionate loving and strong emotional ties, the other is literally no fun allowed, state-mandated-wizardhood.

the sith don't seem so bad when the alternative is the government regulating your fucking love life, fuck off I'll do as much space drugs and twilek concubines as I want

On a related note: what TOR class stories are comparable quality to Light Side Sith Warrior? I think maybe I spoiled myself since I can't see any of them being better especially when it's the route where you get to fuck totally-not-Mission

Because they are based and redsabered

The Sith Warrior story has you as essentially nobility being groomed as the apprentice to a dickass high ranking Sith, but Sith being Sith bloodline alone means shit and you constantly need to fight off vultures aiming for your position as well as deal with your master that while supportive is also wary of you growing more powerful than him.

Choosing every single sarcastic insult and outright joke at the expense of Darth Baras is by far the best way to play Warrior

the sith code has always rang true to me. the jedi code is literal hippy-dippy rainbow colored kid shit.

The sith code is just the law of the jungle, despite being an oppressive totalitarian empire on paper they're still ultimately a meritocracy. Those who are strong, smart, cunning or vicious enough to rise beyond their "intended" social position are applauded for doing so, just as those born to power and privilege but who are ultimately incompetent are ruthlessly disposed of.

the empire's biggest problem is that to a lot of its inhabitants all the backstabbing and power games take a higher priority than actually dealing with the republic and other outside threats.

Because Republic Senate was lead and cared only about the core worlds and pretty much left out the planets on the outer rim

Jedi are pedos

superior aesthetics

>take a higher priority than actually dealing with the republic
Wait, so building a meritocratic society with tiers has resulted in people desiring to increase their own tier over protecting the Empire? Who would've thunk it!

I couldn't stand sith warrior no offence, sith ambassador was 10x more kino. The warrior was essentially an entitled prince where every dialogue option was a different version of . The companion you get was UNFATHOMABLY annoying and clashed with everything this character stood for. Darth baras was a fatass that I couldn't respect and so I just could get into it.

The ambassador was way more compelling because your choices for dialogue actually sounded like coherent responses that sounded like the character was listening while the warrior was just practicing different villainous speeches and quips.

People will say agent is better. But it's not. It's just a huge twist. Light side sith warrior with a dash of evil is the best star wars character ever created. I'm serious.

Star wars was originally meant to be about warring kingdoms and numerous serfdoms where the Jedi knights were actual knights that wore armour and fought for glory and selfish gains. That's what makes the empire so interesting is because it feels like a functioning society of corrupt autocratic trillionaires with their own planetary conquests fighting each other while abusing this esoteric magic.

Basically we all want star wars to become a European space opera where space knights duel each other and single families own entire planets and each force capable Knight is unique and not a slave to a 2 party philosophy system

WTF dude? If vette is annoying you shock her to submission. I never sucked up to BARASS. I insulted him every fucking chance I got and informed him I thought he was a piece of shit. What the fuck are you doing??? This game gives you so much control.

I tried shockibg her but she never flinched, she just kept quipping at me like she was in a marvel movie. Also it was creepy for me because I don't like choosing to torture in any context. Basically I just wanted her to fuck off entirely and never look at her again but you never got that option even though she wasn't needed at all

It was so close to being perfect and they had to add her and ruin everything.

>pick Empire
>play as neutral sith warrior

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The Empire is the good guys, the Sith are a bunch of evil magicians.

>>not wanting to be a dickass wizard with absolutely no accountability
come on man

How can a single image be so right

Often better written. In fact Anakin Skywalker is literally the chosen one, Star Wars is 100% entirely about him from Lucas' original premise and from his own words until Disney bought it and he's the most popular jedi of all time and the best written simply because he goes sith.

Because they have best and sexiest grill.
This alone is enough.

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Don't mind me just posting best companion. Also TCW show redeemed the prequels.

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Because black people are fucking stupid. They are literally warring in Africa right now, kidnapping and raping children while fighting with literal sticks sometimes. They are so fucking stupid they do not even make their own weapons. They have to buy weapons from Whites and Arabs just so they can kill each other.
>hurr wasps who attack literally every creature with their pathetic stingers are more peaceful than whales because a whale's tail whack is more lethal

I've played both Sith forces users,Agent and Trooper. Am I missing out on not playing the rest?

Heard that the rest of The Republic classes are just a slog with Jedi Knight being okay if you want generic hero story

Bounty Hunter and Imperial Agent are the best choices/story. The rest were pretty lackluster and expected.

I do play them.
>hurr durr you can't be evil

I have a friend that lives in Zambia. He owns a large farm in Africa. The people in Africa are literally pants on head retarded. Going to explain one scenario...

Imagine you hired a dude to paint a building or wall. A person needs to go in a ladder and reach high places. He hired this black dude to paint a wall and he left the paint can on the floor tipped the brush and walked back up the ladder with paint dripping as he went up.

He watched him go up and down the ladder hundreds of times doing this. He just watched in awe at the level of stupidity. I have another great story of hiring 3 black guys to build a simple shed. But let's just say it takes more than 5 black guys to build a shed...

i want to breed with lana

The Sith aren't necessarily evil. They embrace their emotions and passions, acting in the own self interest, but that does not preclude them from acting justly or being kind. A Sith can, if they master their emotions, become a force of good. The issue is that the path of the Dark Side often corrupts those who are weak and drives them to lust for power.

All it takes is a look at the ancient Sith Lords to find examples of Sith who were not pure evil. They built empires and enthralled the masses, creating better worlds for trillions. They may have done terrible things, but it is the end goal that matters.

Inherently, within the universe, the Sith are a greater force of change while the Jedi are reactionary. The latter are willing to stagnate and watch the universe burn, unwilling to act until it is too late. Many Jedi throughout the fictional history of the galaxy would spend their entire lives affecting little to no change. They existed, but did no great good. Every Sith is compelled to act. No Sith comes to power without action - good or bad.

So the question becomes whether or not inaction is a valid response to injustice. The Sith reject such a notion, but those who do good in the pursuit of justice are often forgotten or have their legacies corrupted. The Jedi accept it, and become evil in the eyes of those suffering.

is swtor worth downloading for the pvp

Ah, love SWTOR. Why aren't you guys playing the best SW game since KotOR2 and getting ready for next months' expansion?

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I actually love arenas but its full of win traders. Barely anyone does it - people just come and go for class stories and some pve raids casually.

PvP died years ago.

>fully 258 geared
>done timed run of nim gods
>just short of 1billion credits
i'm ready. looking forward to having a reason to play again.

I haven't played since KOTFE, I know Theron ended up being a spy and also that Malgus came back, what will the new expansion be about?

empire vs republic blowing eachother to shit over onderon and corelia.

NO
SHOES

the horde are, and have always been, objectively, the evil/bad faction.

So what the fuck do Jedi actually do? What are their responsibilities? Are they space detectives? Do they just go around doing whatever?

>play Light side Sith
>pragmatic and forward-thinking, makes edgy Sith seethe
>play Dark side Jedi
>edgy asshole who gets touted as a hero no matter what

They're keepers of the peace, not soldiers.

But at what point do the lines between peacekeeper and soldier get blurred for them? They didn't interfere during the Mandalorian Wars but were more than happy to jump to the front lines in the Clone Wars

the jedi's role in the republic has always been a little weird.

Neutral/light Agent was my favourite. Believing in the Empire, but seeing siths as a biggest threat to it. Basically cool and professional to mundos, dick to space wizards.

I liked IA but I really just wanted to be an Imperial Officer. Not some James Bond nonsense.

In terms of star wars explicitly, the sith and the empire have significantly more work put into their backstory, their reasonings, and their existence in general.

In most vidya it's pretty similar. But it's because you have to understand the bad guys, and why they're bad, in the light of the story, to want to dismantle them. When you fail to show off the bad guys being absolute assholes, as in, say, killzone, you end up with people going "man the helghast seem pretty cool" then when the ISA fucking genocides the entire helghan race, it just makes most people go "okay so the helghast were a military dictatorship. So why are we killing all these innocent people and destroying an entire planet?"

You have to realize that the evil people generally get more screentime, and have more exposition behind motives and ideologies, including making them seem human and not entirely dick ass bastards, which leads people to be swayed to their side.

But back to star wars explicitly, the empire is just generally more fleshed out, and the dark side has a lot more cool powers.

The good guys are up their own ass and their rigid sense of morality stops them from ever having any fun.
you want to have fun don't you?

Then be gay and do drugs. Join the sith and squash the rebel scum.

the aesthetics on this game are so bad, the game should have been set around the same time as kotor1 and 2 not 300 years later

>we cold war
>now we war
>wait there's a third faction and the emperor is back
>jk we war again
wow

>being a proud cog in the machine
You should move to china, you will fit right in.

Yes!

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Star Cabal or whatever was dangerously close to jumping a shark, but i really liked how they portrayed Imperial intelligence as a very competent and professional, but beign held back by siths, having to work around them.

I want to marry and impregnate a Chiss. God I love blue women.

That's the whole point of empire storylines. Most of the siths are retarded powertripping babies.

I went Sith Warrior because I couldn't stand the incredibly boring voice and dialogue of the Jedi Knight.

Plus LS Sith is just way more interesting and has better companions.

honestly the sith code makes sense, but the people who practice it go full retard.

faggots go full edge, nothing wrong with being passionate about something you like and driving you to do greater. Truly the low IQ think there is anything deeper being offered by a bunch of milk toast hippies who all think smoking weed and sitting around all day makes them great. People dont get stronger by being a fucking pussy and doing nothing.

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Was there ever a big faction in star wars that went full blown “fuck the force”

The Jedi in TCW were shown to be incompetent. I mean they got completely played by a single Sith hiding in plain site and manipulating everyone. The Jedi Order during the Mandalorian Wars were right in wanting to stay out of it because nothing good comes from the Jedi getting involved in political disputes.

>roastie projection the post

This, mostly. It's a shallow flashy thing like the ability to shoot lightning which endears them.

Despite the fact Sith use a weak and incomplete form of the ability that pales compared to the Jedi version that is far, FAR more powerful and even cooler looking to boot.

The only thing the Sith having going for them is the selfish focus in their religion and worldview. Jedi went full retard with the selflessness, that's about the only good that will probably (not even a guarantee) at this point with the new movies. We'll get a new form of do-gooder Force user that answers to no authority and do whatever they like however they like and will just tell authority to stuff it up their ass. The morality of the Jedi without their stupid fluff that ended up killing them.

>let me raise my screaming volume to 11
>emotions equal intelligence

It's canon they have sex, Lucas said it on multiple occasions.

I wish I was still subbed.
I wish I had an actual PC so that I could play the new expansions without my laptop crashing
I wish I had an actual PC so that my game didn't drop to 15fps in PvP arenas
I miss my Jedi Sage
I miss my Sith Juggernaut
I miss my Sith Sorcerer
I miss my Operative
I miss my Gunslinger
And most of all, I miss my Jedi Guardian

One of these days my luck will change.

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ive been with both and understand what you are talking about. What you are appreciating is a woman being motherly, something they tend to naturally be good at. Men are just men, they can love but it cant ever be as tender as a woman. They are excellent friends for a reason while women are well what they are.

However that is like complaining that women have boobs and men dont. Women are fickle, a relationship to them can easily be abandoned and they can be just as tender to a new lover as the last which means its nothing special. To put pussy on a pedestal is pretty dumb.

Only because they keep killing themselves. China is and has been completely inbred and retarded beyond any hope of salvation for centuries now.

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Because they look cool

A woman’s love is an intense but fickle thing. They can tell you they love you and mean it from the bottom of their heart, but just as quickly forget about you the moment your existence is inconvinient

Being a Jedi is being a monk, so no fun and rewards.
The only good way to make it a little interesting is with good writing.
Basically, you want it to be fucking hard in term of frustrating choices to stay in the way of the Jedi (like being able to end the life of a fucking asshole), rewards can only be scenes of heroism, talking to heroes, discovering new things about the history of the Jedi Order, etc.

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Amber is the best, deal with it.

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The "it's fun to be the badguys" mentality, that is prevalent among zoomers.

He did nothing wrong

Because nothing beat a marauder warrior with the dot built, swtor had his shitty site but the class gameplay and character design was actually extremely fun and satisfies. Neutral Agent and Bounty Hunter was also fun with the story.

Meanwhile WoW lose every expansion more buttons and rpg feature but sadly the new swtor expansion is also just shit

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Would it be possible to learn these skills?

There’s more freedom in role playing a bad guy. Sith don’t need to be wholly bad, but Jedi kinda need to be altruistic and good in nearly every circumstance. Constantly being good wears out the average person because we aren’t consistently good.

Peace is a lie, there is only passion
through passion, i gain strength
through strength, i gain power
through power, i gain victory
through victory, my chains are broken
the Force shall free me.

Sith can be;
>Warriors
>Scholars
>Historians
>Sorcerers
>Healers
>Philosophers
>Artists
>Architects
>Writers
>Anything they desire, really
Meanwhile, Jedi can only be
>Warriors
>Healers
>Historians
Going beyond that breaks the Code and is thus discouraged. The Jedi represent control, while the Sith quite literally represent freedom.

because of shitty romances

Sith Warrior is given a wish fulfilment virgin slave twilek girl who you get to marry and even fuck her sister too if you want to

actually vette's story is almost something out of a shoujo series, the spunky slavegirl falling in love with her stern but fair noble master and aiding him in his rise to power is fairly common, although if it was a shoujo story there'd be way more shock collar rape because hot damn is that a popular fantasy for women

Smuggler can be a tad dull but it's more of a campy adventure where you're this casanova smuggler and your companions are basically just jokes about the OT
It's pretty fun but different then the rest of the class stories since it's just silly

Nigga I KNOW heteros get good shit on the game. that's why I'm salty, if you're gonna give that many options at least throw the homo a fucking bone.

oh I have no idea what the gay shit is like, you'd think bioware being what they are there would be some okay ones. There's a new expansion next month which I can guarantee will have more homolust choices because that's what half the playerbase sticks with the game for

>Jedi indoctrination their knights from infancy
>Not allowed to love or have emotions

How are Jedi not evil

>you'd think bioware being what they are there would be some okay ones
The only good gay options bioware ever does is when it's a bi guy and it's mostly a hetero romance that the enabled the "male" option in coding.
>which I can guarantee will have more homolust choices
How DOES the companion system works? Can you literally take any companion you met before on any mission?

Agent companions were the best

Everyone knows how fucked up this is and the only way people can defend the prequels is by retroactively saying "ackshually it was about how the Jedi had lost their way!"

You can be an edgelord perfectly well as a Jedi too.

In fact, Dark Jedi Knight is a magnificent dick. The JK's voice acting is typically bland - except the Dark Side lines.

You're not really cartoonishly "evil" most of the time, but you're typically merciless towards enemies and traitors, condescending towards underlings and impatient with authority. You're a man of action, a great hero, and your character deserves respect and recognition. Humility is for losers.

You're above menial fetch quests too. Often when some NPC has something you're after, he'll ask you to do some boring task for him first. You can remind him that it's not smart to waste the time of someone with a light saber.

Dark Jedi knight is basically Gaston from Beauty and the Beast. Type 3 body is a requirement.

There's class specific companions and then ones obtained through side shit or expansions, once you unlock them you can use them for most shit although if there's a story reason some might be disallowed

Bioware got lazy and stopped making unique class story content after the game launched

How would it be an edgelord thing? They're the exact same as jedi, but get there through different teachings that are arguably less retarded in many cases. Jedi and sith are not all that different ultimately
And people tend to like force lightning

The OT seems to support this as Yoda doesn't give Luke the no emotions bullshit, he seems to have thought it over in 20 years.

I wouldn't blame it on lazyness, the team got much much smaller after the launch. Which is good, but also means cutting corners, which can in some ways be good as well. I think they should introduce a "companion network" where any companion you got in other characters would be usable with any other character, respecting factions of course.

Everything you just wrote the Sith can do; the Jedi are also. They're is no real difference between them apart from belief.

>Orange: Pretty chill guy all around

>Vette

Mission Vao 2.0.

I've always found the good guys in Star Wars to be gay as hell. I know the point is adventure and a group of rag tag people stopping an impossible enemy, but they're so fucking lame. All of the cool factions with the crazy war toys are evil. Look at these clowns, they look like a bunch of Vietnam LARPers that pulled their uniform from thrift stores and army surplus. Their best assets are the power of friendships, some nerd kid with force powers, and a bunch of midget koala bears.

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>Mission Vao (18+)

It’s because the vast interesting world Lucas created seems to only exist to tell the story of the jedi. Sith are overused too but not nearly as much as the Jedi. And don’t get me wrong, I understand and like that that struggle is the bread and butter of the franchise but there are other stories out there to tell. Its not even about being a contrarian. It’s about being interested in what else is in that universe.

Yoda didn't bring up the no emotions you have to be a kidnapped baby who remains a virgin for life because the prequels didn't exist and despite what George claimed the story was made up as he went

sith alchemy always interested me from the old eu. not a whole lot of stuff touched on that.

Not from a Jedi.

i've never liked the rebels because of that very reason since i was a kid.

The new republic was an absolute shitpile and needed the empire remnants to fix everything it did.

That's why 100 years later in the EU, there is no fucking republic. Just the Empire again. Cause it actually got shit done and took care of its citizens, unlike the republic which was the galaxies biggest dick stomping circlejerkfest.

It was admitted canonically in the EU that the average galactic resident had a better quality of life under the empire, especially within everything closer than the rim.

>2.0.
So upgraded/better? Thanks, I already knew it

Rule of Two.

I just wish more SW games had a grey Jedi option. The force itself doesn't care about either side so why the fuck not? If Bindo could do it, so can more Jedi/Sith.

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Reminder the Santa Claus looking rebel is canonically Rex

and I like General Hux because it exposes Empirefags as being the whiny little bitches you actually are irl

what are you on about. i just think stormtroopers and imperial war machines look cool.

>no State religion

But the Sith Teachings are a religion. The Empire exists to serve the Sith's interests.

>very hands-off approach to governing

Apart from the comical "we'll destroy you and world if you don't capitulate" tantrums.

>>slavery is banned

Living under Imperialism is slavery for everyone involved user. There's no freedom; only obedience. Remember the Death Star.

>no all-powerful corporation with FUCKING PRIVATE ARMIES (Trade Federation et. al),

Instead we have an all-powerful Militaristic/Autocratic System instead under ONE Sith Lord's control. You're not really making any legitimate arguments as to why the Empire is better than the Republic.

srry I had you confused with one of those autists who thinks Star Wars is a treatise about the necessity of Fascism and the destruction of Alderaan was not only justified by necessary

>Jedi are the tyrannical government that takes children away and brainwashes them into a religious cult that runs the senate behind the scenes.

Confirmed for not knowing anything. The Jedi don't run the government; they're are merely the Guardians of the Republic.

>So upgraded/better? Thanks, I already knew it

It's uninspired to write the same character again into a different period of time (i.e 300 Years Later). It's literary laziness and having the same voice actress makes it even more grating to try and view/distinguish "Vette" as a unique and distinct individual. You could take her personal plot-line and dialogue in SWTOR and mod it into KOTOR 1 and there would be no real difference.

>You could take her personal plot-line and dialogue in SWTOR and mod it into KOTOR 1 and there would be no real difference.
Except there would. Vao never met her parents. She wasn't a pirate. She wasn't grabbed by slavers and forced to work in mines. She wasn't caught by the Empire. They don't even have the same attributes: Vao is a slicer/hacker, Vette is a gunslinger. The only thing they have in common is their race and voice, and maaaaybe their overall attittude. Vette was definitely inspired by Vao existing first, but saying they're the same character is disingenuous af

Because the Jedi Order is inhuman.

Jedi Order is an attempt to mimic real world combat monks except completely misunderstanding what it means to overcome human flaws. Rather than learning to live along side them, the Jedi order demands simple ignorance of them. Even if you can't articulate why, instinct tells you this is just insane. It's the kind of order that would berate and dehumanize someone for daring to be sad their mother died. Jedi Masters are also most often portrayed as varying degrees of both blind and insane. Too disconnected from the society they claim to watch over to do anything but be destructive towards that society. Paradoxically telling you that fear is bad while preaching to be as afraid of common human emotion as humanly possible. Teaching you to be self destructive while pretending to be enlightened because ?????? feelings BAAAD.

Sith are evil but still.. understandable? That one must confront their emotions rather than live in fear of them is absolutely true. The sith being murderers doesn't really change that. Most people can't endure having their very souls suffocated. Small wonder why people prefer Sith.

This.

She's an adult, no wookie life party, a slave, and is able to be married and mating pressed. That's enough for most people

>Vao never met her parents

IIRC Vette never knew her parents either.

>She wasn't a pirate

Instead. She was part of a gang. Like Vette.

>They don't even have the same attributes
>Vao is a slicer/hacker, Vette is a gunslinger

Ignorance. Mission is a gunslinger. She has feats and abilities for ranged combat in KOTOR 1.

>She wasn't caught by the Empire

What is the Leviathan scene in KOTOR 1?

>The only thing they have in common is their race and voice, and maaaaybe their overall attittude.

One of "Vette's" near identical and personal story-lines is having the desire to know the well-being of her family. It's a near perfect copy of Mission's story for searching for Griff. It's only been padded and slightly changed for SWTOR (i.e it's not a brother she's looking for; but a sister).

>Ignorance. Mission is a gunslinger. She has feats and abilities for ranged combat in KOTOR 1.
she's a slicer first, her class is skillmonkey not shooter. Would you call T3 a "gunslinger" because he can equip guns?
And she only gets captured by the Levithan if you choose her for the breakout. Otherwise she just hides in the back with everyone else

They existed
They weren't good, especially in KOTOR 1 but they were there

>IIRC Vette never knew her parents either.
Wrong, she knew her mother.
>Instead. She was part of a gang. Like Vette.
Street gang ≠ space pirates. Like, at all
>Mission is a gunslinger. She has feats and abilities for ranged combat in KOTOR 1
What said
>What is the Leviathan scene in KOTOR 1?
Something that happens in game way after Vao has met Revan. You initially meet Vette in a cage in Korriban with a shock collar on, having been caught by the empire for stealing shit from ruins before the Sith Warrior enters the picture.
>It's only been padded and slightly changed for SWTOR
ie changed enough so they're not the exact same character as you claimed
>(i.e it's not a brother she's looking for; but a sister).
And there's also her friends and the whole deal with the Star of Kala'unn. And her mother.

>sith gameplay
>I can play good or bad and it's written by someone who actually knows what those things mean and that there is an in between
>jedi gameplay
>I can play goody-two-shoes omega faggot or no-reason douche
Every FUCKING time.

I'm sorry that you're too much of a cuck to enjoy the best story in SWTOR
It's and honest to god shame

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>Would you call T3 a "gunslinger" because he can equip guns?

Stop being dense. T3 is determined by the game mechanics of KOTOR 1 and 2 can't learn or master the Sniper Shot, Rapid Shot and Power Blast feats or learn to utilize the Ranged Weapon Focus, Proficiency and Specialization Feats. So Mission is and can be a skilled "gunslinger".

>Otherwise she just hides in the back with everyone else

Wrong. She and the rest of the party are put in the detention cells on the Leviathan if someone else is selected. The only one who isn't detained (by selection) is Juhani due to her natural stealth abilities.

itt: nothing but cloudheads

Jedi is one of the most poorly thought out and frustrating honor codes fucking ever, and extended star wars lore fucking sucks dick. playing a star wars games also just makes me want to be a bitchy power hungry Sith that kills everyone, so i don't have to put up with any of that Light side shite.

shooting lightning > being a cuck

Jedi are just a bunch of literal virgins with a "Justice" Boner. Sith are fucking chads with lighting and choking powers

>nothing autistic about Obi Wan
Only a Sith deals in absolutes! >:DDD

The expansions are all terrible.

Rise of the Hutt Cartel was good enough, but in retrospect it sucks because it sets up something that's dropped as soon as the next story content starts

Having to free Vette to progress her story at all, having her tell you that torture doesn't hurt her anymore, etc. was the only lame part of the SW story.That and Jaesa's bad VA.

Reminder they changed a bunch of stuff from the beta because people complained. You were originally able to mindbreak her to the point she stops functioning entirely, just like you were also able to kill Quinn for his betrayal.

I have a question
What's up with the whole celibacy and keep emotions down thing with Jedis

Force lightning and force choke, really.

Really makes you think.
Jedis are celibates, but not asexual. In other words, the Order is a polyamorous hellhole.
Yeah, Anakin did some good with 'em younglings.

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>celibacy
Jedi can fuck, they just can't care about the person they're fucking.

>tfw remember sitting around in the fleet and watching retardation unfold for hours

Fuck, I miss this. Even the Imp side is dead now.

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As Jedi see it, being emotional and having attachment to things will only lead to being hurt when the things you're attached to end, and that hurt will turn the untrained mind to the Dark Side either in rage or in sorrow.
For all the shit Prequel Anakin gets, he displays pretty perfectly why the Jedi did what they did. The mere thought of losing Padme drove him to Palpatine and the Dark Side in desperation, and when the time came for Anakin to choose between Padme or the Jedi, his emotions clouded his judgement and he chose Padme.

Virgin Jedi
>muh virtue
>muh no sex
>muh force religion
>muh passive faggotry
>has to bend peoples minds to make them cooperate
>lightsabers colors look like a gay rave
>can't realign or else you'll be considered a traitor and a literal satan

Chad Sith
>do what you want
>ambition is admired, like it should be
>trample alien niggers
>have sex
>unlimited power
>makes people cooperate through sheer charisma or violence
>motherfucking red lightsabers to strike fear to the force insensitive plebs
>can realign as you please, and will be celebrated for doing so

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I AM the senate

>BEST OUTCOME
Wrong
>DOES VETTE EVER COME BACK TO SITH WARRIOR HUSBAND???
She's one of the few to actually come back, and the only one besides Torian with a decent role.

>>muh no sex
>>trample alien niggers
But that's wrong, you poodoo.

>Street gang ≠ space pirates.
>Pirates can't be part of a gang or a wider criminal syndicate

It's implied in KOTOR 1 that the Hidden Beks had Intergalactic influence. If you remember that before Taris was destroyed they participated in the Galactic Swoop Circuit to recruit prospects. Which was why Gadon was pissed off that the Sith Fleet had quarantined the ENTIRE planet and asked Revan and Carth to get their Sith Uniforms to bypass the blockade.

>Something that happens in game way after Vao has met Revan.

It still counts in this context. The user here at was trying to deny that Mission was caught by the Sith Empire at all. I was proving him wrong with actual scenes in KOTOR 1.

>ie changed enough so they're not the exact same character as you claimed

Let me put it this way. The Imperial Agent is good example of a unique, well written character, due to the fact he or she is an individual with a incomparable personality and the story-line development throughout SWTOR can't be rehashed or reused for a past or future characters in the Star Wars Universe; HE OR SHE IS DISTINCT for that particular time period. This is a sign of good writing.

Vette doesn't have that luxury because she IS generic overall; Vette's dialogue and plot-line can easily be reused and transposed for Mission because of the similarities between their personalities, actions and demeanor. BioWare had the chance to create a unique female Twi'lek character and instead made her into Mission 2.0. That's the problem that I have. The ONLY distinctive thing people seem to ""care"" about Vette is that she's a slave that you fuck on your ship. That's it.

>Ywn be a Pureblood's lieutenant who she takes out all of her frustrations on through rough sex
I don't know what make me like them so much, they're mostly just humans with some extra features but it really does it for me.

It's their rich personality.

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Idiot. The Sith are the ultimate twats because they keep losing to the Jedi over and over again. Also, the Sith and their Code is a religion that advocates for the selfishness and betrayal of others, which is why they keep dismantling their Empire over petty in-fighting.

I've got it downloaded, I've just been putting it off. I don't have a sub anyway so I'm in no rush.

>Pirates can't be part of a gang or a wider criminal syndicate
They can, but Nok Drayen's pirates weren't.
>It still counts in this context.
It doesn't, because the user in that post is me and I mentioned the Empire bit after three other mentions regarding Vao and Vette's different pasts. That, coupled with the fact you meet Vette while imprisoned by the Siths, should've clued you in on the fact that I obviously meant before the games start, because holy shit is it clear.
>Let me put it this way.
There is no way. You claimed Vette and Vao were so similar you could literally interchange Vette's backstory, dialogue and personal side quest with Vao and nothing would change. And that's plain wrong. Whether Vette is distinct enough or not is irrelevant she's not. She's not a carbon copy, that was the point.

Sometimes it's fun to play as the bad guy.

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Alright fuckers I reinstalled and am about to make a character in anticipation of the new expansion.

Are any of the companions pure and cute like Vette or are they all used goods?

The Sith lost to the Jedi because after Marr's death they all became even bigger backstabbing power-hungry assholes than they were, leading to the ultimate collapse of the Empire and the rise of the doomed Brotherhood of Sith, which in turn fell and made way for the Rule of Two to be created, which ironically may have been one of the worst things to happen to the traditional idea of Sith.

Jedi Knight, Inquisitor, and Trooper all get top tier pure wives, not counting Light-Side Warrior.

elara was saving herself for marriage? I made a trooper way back when the game came out but abandoned it because Christ was the tank spec fucking unfun to play

Is there a single girl besides Kaliyo (and maybe Kira) who isn't pure?

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ahem

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>sith woman only respects power
Every woman does.

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Elara was essentially the closest an Imperial could get to royalty without being a Sith, from what I remember.

Red lightsaber cool

I have an attraction to those feelers the same way I do towards draenei tentacles, fuck are they prehensile?

JK and trooper have good waifu content. Smuggler's Tat story - where he has to choose (or not) between Jedi and Sith girls trying to kill one another - is good too.

Purest waifu is probably BH's Mako.

Nah

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>twink body
>LS inquisicuck
>anime hair
>shittiest waifu
how can one image be so horrible

Stay jelly

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>There is no way.
>Whether Vette is distinct enough or not is irrelevant
>She's not a carbon copy
>>Even though she's a blue Twi'lek
>>voiced by the same voice actress
>>that was part of a group that supported organized crime in the past (the only difference being scale)
>>that travels with a Sith Lord (remember that Revan was and is a Sith Lord) across the Galaxy
>>that helped this Sith Lord claim relics and artifacts on Korriban to gain prestige amongst the Sith Masters
>>who is also concerned with the well being of her family
>>>not a carbon copy of Mission Vao

Right.

No, I'm pretty sure they're bone-y ridges. The men get tentacle beards though I think.

>when you like the concept behind the Sith but almost every adaptation has them portrayed cartoonishly, with retarded backstbbers front and center
If they were all like that, there never would have been a Sith Empire, let alone would it become a credible threat.

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>If they were all like that, there never would have been a Sith Empire,
It's the reason the old Empire fell. The only Darth on the Council that had his head truly on straight was killed in the war against Valkorion, and after that it all came crumbling down.

Great opinion desu; Master/Slave Morality lens when looking at Star Wars is based. Sith are just power hungry retards who don't have any grand vision; Light Side Jedis are too passive to enforce their will on the galaxy for a better tomorrow. The best option would be the Grey Jedis.

Faaaaaaaag.

Explain to me why the Sith are bad without using things that you heard only from Jedi.

Without a sufficiently powerful hand to keep them in check, the Sith grow envious of one another and their infighting cripples the Empire.
These are effectively the words of one of the top Darths from the Old Republic era, and is echoed by another.

>this entire thread

Man star wars used to be so much fun even if people did fairly bitch about the prequels

I can still enjoy the old stuff but theres just no hope for the future

The Sith won.

The chosen one was turned. The Jedi were wiped out by a single individual from the inside-out.

Luke Skywalker abadoned the heritage that was passed onto him. He let the Resistence rise by doing fuckall on his hermit island.

And most of all, Luke's life accomplishment of turning his father again and defeating the Emperor and Anakin's sacrifice to save his son WAS ALL FLUSHED DOWN THE TOILET BECAUSE PALPATINE IS STILL ALIVE

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