Sakurai doubles down and confirms that non-vidya characters can't get into smash

Gold has been in more games than Rob the plastic piece of shit toy.

Fuck off stupid secondary

retard

poor sakurai, he's had to say this like 5 times already.

This also deconfirms Sora since his entire franchise is completely dependent on Disney characters and IP, and since Disney isn't vidya then you can't represent Kingdom Hearts as a franchise.

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Uhm virtual pets are video games

Next smash will be anime crossover version, as another regular smash would be unable to top Ultimate.

did pokemon games come before the animes?

Sora himself is a video game character so I don't think that deconfirms him.

What does is how incredibly stingy Disney is with licensing anything which I doubt Nintendo will play ball with them.

Pokemon is vidya

Yes

Based. The only reason Goku was originally brought up was to make fun of rosterfags putting shit like Naruto on their imaginary rosters and wishlists. Then retards started unironically latching onto him as if he actually had a chance. I can only imagine the bullshit we'd have to put up with if the non-vidya floodgates were opened.

good. i don't want digimon to be affiliated with smash fags

>Sora himself is a video game character
Yes but DLC comes with more than just a character, right? How can you represent Kingdom Hearts as a franchise without Disney? It literally kills the entire point of the games.

She's in

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I'll still pray for Luffy when nobody's watching

RIP Jibanyan. Why did Yokai Watch have to start as a manga.

I don't think they're gonna add a literal porn character to Smash anytime soon.

I knew not to expect The Batman but I always secretly hoped for it.

Music from just the KH games (all two songs) and using only KH characters as spirits.

Where does Geralt fit in this

The books were absolutely dwarfed by the games and the game interpretation of that universe is so divorced from said books

DQ Hero is the closest you'll get to Goku.

Yokai Watch's bigger issue is the Pokemon Company would probably throw a stink about one of their competitors being in Smash.

Do japs consider VNs videogames? And FSN is pretty far into the territory of "95% reading with minimal choices".
That and the fact that she's a hentai character.

It didn't. YW started as a video game. Why don't you people ever look shit up?

It started as a manga in 2012 in the CoroCoro Comics, then the game released in 2013.

Good. We have so many shit threads about who will join or who wont, its at least good to know that no matter what non-vidyagame character fags say, their characters will not be getting into Smash. One less coal in the fire.

>first manga series started in 2012
>first game was released in 2013
so which one is real and fake

except Lucario which appeared first in Anime

Why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food?

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yes, famicom detective club is a VN and sakurai considered adding the main character in melee era

:)

they call it oven because you "shoven" it in

Dlc characters unfortunantly get very few spirits
You wouldn't need to delve into disney shit

He's low key telling people that Donald and Goofy will not be spirits.

Yeah but the manga was made to promote the game
If lucario can get in so can jibanyan

Disney owns Sora, not Square Enix.

jokes on you digimon anime was made to sell the video game

I'm pretty sure they don't care.

lucario is from pokemon, pokemon started as vidya

jibanyan is from yokai watch, yokai watch started as a manga

This, Disney owns all KH OC with the understanding that creative stuff goes through Nomura.

If that's the case, how come Homestuck got in?

If supplemental material came out first but was always intended as videogame promotion it still counts as vidya for smash, lucario proves this

Megalovania was from an Earthbound hack originally so it's still technically video games.

>actually believing masahiro"brawl will be the last game you guys!" sakurai
>actually believing masahiro"smash 4 will be the last this time I swaer!" sakurai
>actually believing masahiro"there won't be DLC" sakurai

this basically just confirmed him

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characters who originated in a video game dummie

Mametchi has more claim than Agumon.

Gokufags just can't stop losing.

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Lucario was in PMD first if you guys are so anal.

He says that but I could see him putting in micky mouse

They can't do this Homer Simpson-Bros.

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Yeah, plus lucario didn't actually debut in the anime movie iirc, it debuted in Mystery Dungeon.

>Ironman
Who on earth requested him?!

*blocks your path*

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Non-Disney Kingdom Hearts music.
Twilight Town/Castle Oblivion/World That Never Was stage.
Nomura has enough donut steels to round out the spirits.

Shrekbros...

Americans same people requesting cartoon characters like Goku or Spongebob

based stroke poster

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Actually Goku can not happen currently.
It's very unlikely he'll be one of the next few DLC but more likely to be a later DLC due to the current Funimation debacle that's got Toei's attention due to how widespread it got.
You'll have to wait for Goku once Toei can calm the shitstorm caused by Funi and it's employees.

>pushdustin

Really retards, you're believing this guy now when he was just btfo about what Sakurai said recently?

it really is ogre now, aye?

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>Goku
>not Vidya
>when he is one of the character with the most games out there
Anyway, we got Fantasy Goku with Hero, so we won.

What happened?

Don't worry fellow Homo, Sakurai has flipped flopped before. It's only a matter of time.

Destiny Island?
Kairi and Riku?
Twilight Town?
The games have already put way more emphasis on it's own original characters and settings than anything Disney or final fantasy related. The Disney worlds are just set dressing at this point, rather than an integral part of the story.
The only thing that would feel missing from Sora is Donald and Goofy.

goku is vidya gaems he's in

JIBANYAN BTFO

psgbros...

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A lot of pokemon appear first in the anime

The manga was made to promote the upcoming game, strictly speaking he can't get in but they could probably bend the rules a little

Put them in the next king of fighters instead
The question is would their third team member be garterbelt or brief

...

>from abroad
he must see westerners are megaretards lol

good

>non 0 gets on Yea Forums
retard

captainkirkbros...is this really the end?

sneed

SORA BTFO

Destiny Islands (Palm tree island)
Twilight Town (Clock tower)
Dive to the Heart (Where you fight the Darkside in KH1)
Any music from a KH-original world.
Riku, Kairi, Shadow, "Organization XIII" spirits.

This.

And now people are unironically asking for Doomslayer. It's retarded.

I never got goku requesters like do you also want dora the explorer in? lmao get taste buddy

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Doomguy would be a great pick though.

but doomguy came from a video game tho

>where is my beloved Goku?
Literally me

Doomguy is one of the faces of FPS's though.

I think its because Endgame

Doom is big in Japan!

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It's sad that he has to remind people of this fact. Smashtards are so damn stupid.

Its a devoted cult following at best
Its like saying Neptune is big in the West

My point was he was put on joke/troll lists, and now retards are saying it seriously. You'd have been laughed out of the discussion just a few years back.

Doomslayer would fit in something like Sony's soulless "shove anything in!" fighter, he would look ridiculous in Smash.

>You'd have been laughed out of the discussion just a few years back.
So would people asking for Terry Bogard, Bayonetta, Cloud and a Persona character.

Goku gone
Digimon gone
Luffy Gone
Touhou gone
Spongebob gone

>You'd have been laughed out of the discussion just a few years back.
so where the people who asked for Ridley

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Does she have any chance bros?

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no
Also a regular Tamagotchi would be chosen first if that were the case

It absolutely isn't
They didn't even show Doom64 in the Japanese direct

Do you really want to give Gokufags any kind of ammo?

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now that banjo and k.rool are in, I don't even care anymore. the game doesn't need any more characters. the ones I wanted are in, and they're awesome. everything else is just extra. I don't want anyone else.

The only real loss is james bond

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OH NO NO NO NO

Digimon would be a weird case. It'd just entirely depend if we can categorize virtual pets as video games.

>You'd have been laughed out of the discussion just a few years back.
That's true but ever since 4 and Ultimate doubled down on 3rd party characters he wouldn't seem that out of place any more.

Professional retard at work. Doomguy/Doom Slayer has always been from a videogame.
Where the fuck you got he wasn't?

>How can you represent Kingdom Hearts as a franchise without Disney?

>Sora's moves take from the games, combo and magic-based
>Stage is Twilight Town, Destiny Islands, Traverse Town or Hollow Bastion
>Stickers are all Heartless, Org XIII (which could be the entire set if they wanted to) and Kingdom Hearts versions of the FF characters
>Given how stingy Square are with music anyway, Sora's music could just be a more upbeat remix of Traverse Town, youtube.com/watch?v=_57A5l5RkFQ, youtube.com/watch?v=nXSJLEIfkJc and other original battle themes
>Final Smash is either locking the door or final form and he just pulls a Sonic and spazzes around the stage for a few minutes

so is miku dead?

Miku never had a chance even if this rule didn't exist

Censored game. Doom Eternal is still being shown and released for Japan.

I'm pretty sure Banjo had games in the West that the East never got.

>Where does Geralt fit in this
Not happening. Regardless of how different The Witcher game is from the books he started out as a book character - as did every wanted Shonen character.

Even spongebob...

>Doomslayer would fit in something like Sony's soulless "shove anything in!" fighter
Is that not literally what Smash is now?

She's in youtube.com/watch?v=SO0xo8Go824

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I watched a lot of nip reactions to the direct where they showed eternal and none of them had heard of the series before. There was a lot of "eh? dom? dommu?"

Smash being only for video game characters has something Sakurai has said over and over, this is like the fifth time, don't be dense.

>"Stop trying to predict Sakurai, Nintendo are kings of left field!!"
>Literally every character originated in a video game and appeared on a Nintendo console

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Doomguy is more of an icon than half of the fucking third party characters in Smash. Literally the most famous and influential PC game of all time.

Fuck off with these technicalities, if a character's very first appearance was in something like a promotional manga, anime or commercial for the games then they're still video games.

How is Touhou or, to a lesser extent, Digimon gone?

Source, please.

Don't just come up with "Dude, trust me" shit.

>Touhou gone
ZUN's first works for the series was a game.

low tier only if you suck fat cocks

Go home secondary, you're drunk.

Eh, final smash should be the unlocking keyhole from the end of about every world.

There's never actually been an official anime either.

Literally everything Disney that is in Kingdom Hearts happens also in a video game. All the characters for the most part are alternate universe videogame versions of themselves from other material. You're being pedantic

TOUHOU GONE!

WANT ANOTHER PIMPSLAP, HOE?

Cope doomniggers

Its sad we will never get to see Sam & Max in smash

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So how is Doomguy not a video game character? What has he appeared in before DOOM was a thing?

Soooo... Cope from what?
A new already debunked rule?
You anti-Doomfags are pathetic finding every single retarded rule to slow down the inevitable, lmao.

Nip reactions to Banjo were the best
twitter.com/6129Bakainu/status/1138505071698878465

has anyone ever been as

Probably will mention this comic.

>Doom 1 Release Date: 1993
>Doom 2 Release Date: 1994
>Comic Release Date: 1996

You lose again, Anti-Doomfags. You make our inclusion stronger ;)

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the fuck is with doomguy, did he become a cyborg?

Manga characters are not video games, get over it.

Why did that put a tear in my eye

I just want Prince+Katamari

>ywn watch nintendo direct with your friends in vr
Why live

She's gonna be in eventually

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>basically
sakurai's already giving himself an out to put goku in. sorry rosterfags, your autistic fan rules will continue to mean nothing.

>now

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Fuck off secondary.

Imagine the smell

now you are just delusional

Comics have a tendency to not closely follow the source or make their own universe.

Sakurai literally says this EVERY time he makes another Smash game. I don't get why retards keep showing up every time going "Goku is totally possible guys!" or "After Cloud, anything can happen!"

They keep falling back on the "Sakurai is a master ruseman" thing.

>sakurai's already giving himself an out to put goku in
I love how you people take anything to twist back into whatever you want it to mean so you can keep screeching that your manga and Hollywood character demands will somehow get into Smash.

>implying that is not the exact truth with modern west

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How the fuck can I remove PKMN Trainer and Inkling from history?

Based. The moment you let someone like Mickey Mouse in the series no longer has any focus whatsoever.

Didn't Megaten start as a literal novel?

He literally just said no anime characters though

Didn't Square Enix have a hard time just trying to get Sora in world of Final Fantasy?

OH NONONONO
PARTY ROCKERS IN THE SMASH TONIIIIIIGHT!

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>No Halo
>No Overwatch
>No TF2
>No CS and CS:GO
>No Half Life
>No Call of Duty
>No Battlefield.

Without Wolfenstein/Doom/Quake, your game wouldn't have existed. Fact.

Not him but that's actually true. Grunty's Revenge and Banjo Pilot didn't come to Japan or so I think.

Yes and they were also only able to get him into Record Keeper as a timed event that you can't even buy from the shop like you can for most characters and he's plastered with copyright Disney all over the place.

But my main in Smash isn't a vidya character he is ROB the console.

>King Jinjo
Is that what they call the Jinjonator in Japan?

Honestly if fucking Undertale can get represented in Smash, Doom can as well. Japan can take having some American representation in Smash.

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Don't know, but he might have been confusing him with Jingaling.

Probably just confused it with King Jingaling

Hard to do that since one's a bird and the other is a puzzle piece

>Pacman, Megaman, Simon, Sonic, Final fantasy, Street fighter wouldn't exist without Doom
you are delusional thinking Doom is even comparable to these franchises.
Don't get me wrong, Doom is iconic by its own but nowhere near as the others.

Dracula and Alucard are not video game characters, but they are referenced in Smash.
They can just do the same, but with the Kingdom Hearts version of Disney characters.

If that’s how they call the jinjonator, how do they call king jingaling?

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rulefags btfo
Goku confirmed

You're thinking of Master Jiggywiggy

See Jiggywiggy is the puzzle piece.

Of course

It pisses me off when Disney is really stingy about stuff like this when they do next to nothing with the actual character. It's like how Square Enix is real stingy with Geno but they don't do shit with him either.

>Sakurai literally saying "NOT VIDYA"

Absolutely fucking fantastic.

What happened?

so you're saying agumon still has a chance

Some audio of the voice actors acting very not professionally was leaked and tl;dr Funimation is in super hot water with Toei.

You are comparing apples with oranges...

I clearly gave you a comparison of FPS that wouldn't have existed without Doom.

Yet you come here and give me platformers, RPG's and fighting games as inspiration for Doom?...

Pretty sure Doom drew inspiration from Wolfenstein, sub-inspirations being Hovertank 3D and Catacomb 3D

MONOKUMA CONFIRMED MONOKUMA CONFIRMED MONOKUMA CONFIRMED MONOKUMA CONFIRMED MONOKUMA CONFIRMED MONOKUMA CONFIRMED MONOKUMA CONFIRMED

I still want James Bond in Smash

>do you also want dora the explorer in
Yes

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Yes, because you said Doom was more iconic than half of the third party character which is not even remotely true.

Dovahkiin is in.

Alarmingly possible.

I look like Iron Man and a lot of twinks want a sugar daddy. Same goes for older guys lusting after Tom Holland twinks.

Damn...I guess R.O.B is never getting in.

The dream is dead, bros..

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How can we stop Todd and the Dovahkiin menace?

Shit, now I'm the confused one

>Sakurai at Game Awards: I'm sorry for bringing up this personal story at a time like this...but making Smash Bros on the Switch was the last mission the late Satoru Iwata gave to me....I've put my all into the game, and with more DLC I will continue to work hard.

What an awful fucking job he's doing then

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When it's one of the fathers of the FPS genre, it is. Being old doesn't mean it's unimportant.

Your origin still has to be connected to video games in some way. Question is if characters like Captain N or Nester could get in. Technically not video game characters, but they're related to video games like ROB was.

How old are you?

Dora the Explorer is basically a fake videogame anyway

how many times has this quote been posted here? it's obsolete. Goku is in

>hurr durr look guys we're so fucking stupid!
ROB is a video game accessory and a huge part of video game history, if it wasn't for that piece of shit we wouldn't have video games today, at least not as they are. Stop trying to argue that Darth Vader, Shrek, Goku, and the cast of My Little Pony are exactly the same as ROB.

>Sakurai himself says it
>Yea Forumsirgins still beg and plead for their precious Shrek and Krillin

Not once since the Switch port of Doom 4’s announcement has someone thought of the character as a joke you retarded underage b&

>Fighter: Sora (just Sora, no Donald, no Goofy, no Mickey Mouse keychain)
>Spirits: Riku, Kairi, Ventus, Roxas, Aqua, Terra, Xehanort, Naminé, Axel, Xion
>Stage: Twilight Town
>Music: literally any song not from a Disney level
I have never once played a single KH game but even I could do this shit

Professional leakerman here, next character is Elton John.
Billy Joel as his echo fighter.

Shrek originated in a videogame

Kill yourself, you obsessed cunt.

Which one?

Shrek 2 for the PS2

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You ok?

all the franchises i said on my post are older than Doom and they also are more iconic.
Doom still famous as one of the fathers of the FPS genre, i'll give you that, but doom is only more iconic than Joker or bayonetta.

Pretty sure those franchises never caused the one reason of bad productivity in the 90's.

Also, they are iconic on their own right. Maybe they are the same genre, but they add a twist to it that their predecessor/successor didn't.

Doom is iconic on his own right as well and the guy is right in that Doomguy is more iconic than half of the roster.

Compare them and see for yourself.

>I-I never played KH guys!
>now let me just list all of these autistic KH characters
jej

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Doom is iconic as it popularized the FPS genre, but the protagonist isn't.

It was created for the game. If you're going to use this argument you can disqualify a lot of characters because they appeared in a trailer before the release of the game.

It's good to hear this from him again since everyone thinks the rules reset after every announcement

You can say the same thing about the Dragon Quest Hero.

His voice is a lot deeper than I thought it would be

Which is why they included 4 different Heroes. FPS are also not as popular in Japan as JRPGs and fighting games

Undertale rep amounts to a skin of a pre existing fighter. You're basically limiting Doom representation to a mii gunner costume.

>hurr the franchise may be iconic but I declare nobody knows about the guy you play as in all the games because you ruined my other claims!

That was my very first post ITT. Take your meds you sped.

Undertale has nobody and nothing that can me turned into a fully-fledged fighter. Doom has an arsenal of weapons and physical atacks that would work fine.

Sans could very well be a fully fledged fighter with his own abilities if they actually wanted to develop him. The fact that Undertale is your go to example for why Doom should get a rep just means its gonna be a mii gunner costume.

Issue is, Sans canonically would die in one hit, so probably Toby Fox knew all along.

If you want Undertale Rep, go for the beefier characters.

I can imagine it now
>"Doom Slayer" is in
>everyone just calls him doomguy anyway
>is a max cancer zoner powercreep character that surpasses snake in his ability to shut down brainlet rushdown playstyles
>MVD and Salem pick him up and become the top players
>Ally rises from the grave and rapes riddles twink asshole
Should be fun.

Sans is lazy and dies in one hit, and how would you make the non-Gaster things he does into a moveset?

Guess that means Kratos, Joel, and Drake are out. Sorry Sony ponies, you’ll always have PlayStation all stars.

STFU BITCH

STFU ASSHOLE digimon will get in smash HOES MAD HOES MAD

NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

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I wish I could slap people who say shit like this
What about olimar? Shouldn't mario canonically die after 2 hits while he's big? Shouldn't sonic explode into rings? Why can Ness and Lucas use those PSI spells? etc

why do you people say a character that looks like anime is a porn character can yall stfu and stop being horny on main for god fucking sakes that does not make any fucking sense STFU

>No Ninamori

Guess Mii it is then, fuck you Sakurai.

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we shall see user MVAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

STFU goku is inevitable

doomguy is inevitable cope asshole

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

NEVER MVAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

says who?

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Look, don't tell me. It was either Toby's decision or Sakurai's...

Either Toby wanted a better character to be represented for Undertale or Sakurai said absolutely not to an indie game entering into the main leagues.

Pick your poison. I'm not one to say your character has no chance, but even the damn Undertale developer was confirmed to play at Sakurai's house and it only got a Mii Costume in...

geno and sora will get in smash

There are more video games where you play through DBZ than there are episodes in the anime. I'd say Goku counts as a video game character.

Says history. Doom is not only the father of FPS, but the son of the grandfather of FPS, which is Wolfenstein.

Other iterations of the genre has appeared with their own quirks, but it is the same formula that Doom helped popularize.

monokuma will never get in smash

X DOUBT

Or maybe just Undertale isn't in this time you retard?
I dont even care. Just stop acting like Toby is this wise ascended being who negotiates with Sakurai at his leisure because Sans has 1hp and ''''isn't a fighter'''''.
Toby will take what he can fucking get.

This.

in the words of etika: YALL WANT SHREK!!!!!!

and Pokemon games take 2-3 years development time or more.

So Togepi, Snubbull, Marill, and Donphan are anime characters, too?

Wikipedia bitch

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Pt 1 Naruto wen?

I always wondered the same.

WHO THE HELL WANTS SHREK ALSO FUCK RULEJERKS

says who op

Then why so many FE characters? Why Lucina, which is one of top rule34 searches?

I can't tell if you're baiting or legitimately retarded

how do newfags still fall for this

>Sakurai doesn't want Link to fight against the guy that inspired his very design

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There's people on 2ch that despise Saber getting in, so they definitely know that she's bullshit

That's exactly what happens when you go back on your word, which he has done several times.

>Ridley is too big, he can't be made into a fighter
>Villager can't fight
>This is the last Smash I'll be working on

I think that from all the "rules" he is broken, this is the most important one. If he ever breaks it then there will be no end to idiotic requests like Shrek or Hugh Neutron.

That version of Dracula specifically IS from a video game and it's probably copyrighted though.

He was only ever good in Brawl because he could chain grab half the roster.

That's odd that he would say it like that.

- Lucario is an anime character first who was later put in games, just like Goku. debuted in pic related
- Roy was not a video game character before he was added to Smash

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>I get all these kinds of requests from abroad like, "Where is my believed Iron Man?" or "where is my beloved Goku? " However, basically (Smash) will only have content from video games in it.
Who the hell do you think you are? Who the hell do you think you are? You any kind of developer? Anybody know who you are?! Maybe everyone else wants to enjoy Goku and Iron Man. This is one of the most important games in all of North America, who are you? WHO ARE YOU?! You miserable, presumptuous NO TALENT. You're no developer. An developer respects the desires of the audience that serves the foundation of creativity. You OBVIOUSLY don't have the talent, You don't have enough respect for yourself or other people OR what it is to express yourself; In video games or ANY other form of creativity.

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>Roy was not a video game character before he was added to Smash
Roy was always a video game character, Smash was his first appearance, so he was always a game character.

>Lucario is an anime character first
How long are you fucking idiots going to keep parroting this nonsense?

Low tier doesn't exist, you just have to believe in your main and get good. Zaki got 33rd at Evo with DDD.

youtube.com/watch?v=0TIiDrBFTNg

It literally is a porn character, retard. You can have sexual intercourse in her game.

He's much better suited for Soul Calibur anyway.

reading comprehension
>>before he was added to Smash
i suppose you could choose to call Roy a game character before Smash despite him making no appearances in games before Smash

show proof then user

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>game character made for a game debuts in a game

why thank you this ammo will fit well in my collection of proving goku getting in smash

>people who unironically don't even know that fate started as an eroge series are able to post on the 4chins now
Feels bad

Bad for the children, so no.

Goku will never ever be in Smash unless all other forms of Dragonball media cease to be made, two decades pass, and culturally he is only seen as a video game character. That is to say, never.

All the DBZ video games are created to supplement the anime/manga. Unlike Pokémon, where the property is first and foremost a video game, with the anime/manga being an extension of that.

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they should put Paulie in smash

>patternfagging

Geralt fits better in SC. For smash, I don’t think he’s necessarily 100% off the table but it doesn’t matter because he’d almost never get picked anyway. The Geralt of the games really into its own, and similar to this () isn’t culturally associated with the literature

>Megami Tensei book -> Megami Tensei game adaptation -> Shin Megami Tensei -> SMT if... -> Megami Iburonku Persona -> Persona 5

Bros... I think Goku is fucking in.

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Sigh...
Here goes my honest pick Madoka from Madoka Magica.
This game lacks archery fighters.

Next you'll pretend that Lucario didn't originate in an anime?

Don’t get autistic. Lucario was created for the games, and the anime is tertiary material. It doesn’t matter that the anime came out first

>Roy is a smash character

>he appeared in an anime first so he's anime
>just ignore the fact the anime is based of the games and the movie's are basically glorified commercials

>also ignore the fact that by this logic Togepi, Donphan, Snubbull, and Marill are also anime characters

Wrong. Take your pills.

A movie from the Pokemon anime, based of the games.
You might as well count Pikachu's very first appearance in an ad for Pokemon and say he's not a video game character.

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I was going to make a togepi joke earlier but decided not to.

>still no waluigi

don't lose hope

Maybe if they release an smash poker all stars game.

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Oh no TF2 Heavy can’t get in because his first appearance was in a web short!

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you are just making the goku fans more powerful goku is inevitable

Hardly. Logic trumps emotion

ok then thank you for being a nice person hope you have a great day

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ok that looks like filler

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No, it's serious business in the plot.

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we shall see user MVAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Get fucked mikufags

Dem numbers!

...

Check'd

>Togepi, Donphan, Snubbull, and Marill are also anime characters
Correct, yes. At some point people thought Blaziken would be a good addition to Smash, and nobody batted an eye at Blaziken being an anime character first

Pokemon aren't anime characters first. They're designed by GameFreak for the games and sometimes the anime shows them off early as advertising.
It's like claiming Roy is a Smash Bros character instead of a Fire Emblem character

alright, good to know.
Like, after going back on his word with Ridley ya never know with this guy

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it'll be a pattern when my dick goes in and out of your mum

>It's like claiming Roy is a Smash Bros character instead of a Fire Emblem character
Roy has been a Smash Bros character for 4 more months than he's ever been a Fire Emblem character

Roy was a Fire Emblem character from the moment he was conceived by the Fire Emblem developers for the Fire Emblem game he starred in.

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FE6-7 remake when?

calling it now. final dlc is goku as smash kojima’s farewell gift to fans

if agumon isn’t vidya neither is G&W

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honestly, i don’t think it will be for years or while sakurai is at the helm. but eventually we will see non vidya. i would hope it would be reserved for franchises nintendo is invested in. there isn’t really any i can think of except for marvel ultimate alliance but that is only one game under nintendo’s publishing so far

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he could still work without the disney stuff. there is enough OC shit. it wouldn’t happen though because just imagine nintendo having to deal with disney

calling it now. it isn't

>That's exactly what happens when you go back on your word, which he has done several times.
>Ridley is too big, he can't be made into a fighter
He never said that
>Villager can't fight
Never said that either
>This is the last Smash I'll be working on
Correct

>originated from vidya
He's in

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dracula and alucard are castlevania’s interpriation of public domain characters. that’s like saying that kratos isn’t a video game character

he is a licensed book character

Alucard is an original character

Mario is based off a real person so he shouldn't be in smash either

that is the only flaw with the current dlc packs. there should be at least twice the amount of spirits than we get

No he's not.
He's just named after one

>basically
This better be a quirk in the translation.

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What about Yugimonz?

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The flipside is that they're all automatically obtained. Also some are actually more than usual, like Hero has 4 fighter spirits and 2 evolving ones.

>not D'oh!

holy shit he cracked the code
>goku isn’t in but the video game version of him is

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calling it now you are gay lol

all this talk of technicalities got me wondering. has there ever been a movie based upon a video game adaptation of another media. example being attack on arkham which was a direct to dvd movie set in the batman arkham asylum universe

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>Yep, he's in

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nintendo gave sakurai a list of potential dlc characters. maybe undertale wasn't on it. you are acting like sakurai and toby fox were negotiating dlc characters

1. he was in pokemon mystery dungeon before that movie
2. that is a movie based on a video game. lucario didn't come from nowhere and isn't the star of it's own franchise

Solid Snake would fit in something like Sony's soulless "shove anything in!" fighter, he would look ridiculous in Smash.

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this book fucking sucks

>Doom is iconic as it popularized the FPS genre, but the protagonist isn't.
Do you say this inane bullshit because it's first person?
You can see his face on the hud at all times. The animated portrait is iconic, along with the box art depicting him fighting waves of demons.

TPC sends concept art of the new Pokemon to Sakurai long before the games are even released. He's said this before.

>going back on his word with Ridley
>"I think that would probably be impossible. [laughs] If we had put our best efforts into it, we may have been able to do it. But he might have been a little slow. Would that have been all right? [laughs]."
What part of "we could do it if we put our best efforts into it" is going back on his word?

>literal hundreds, almost a thousand, of the exact same sentence as replies
like these fucking mouth breathers are in such a hurry to sound smart that they don't consider they might be the dumbest one in the chain, only coming above the next retard to say the same thing

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>”Smash will only have content from videogames in it. That means no Goku.”
>”So what you’re saying is Goku is a shoe-in?!”
Everytime

Goku may be out but Android 21 is still a possibility since she's originally a videogame character

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FIRE BLASTER!

Good thing that fag isn't in charge of picking characters, Nintendo is.

Tamogucci aka digimon isnt coming to smash
Based Sakurai deconfirming toys

I thought the game awards happens in December

and Disney said they need Nomura's permission for anything
guess who's gonna say yes for Smash again?

No they didn't you fag.

Why are you retards illiterate? Like you intentionally leave out the rest of his statements to fit your viewpoint.

here you go

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telling lies on the internet?
Justin Scarpone isn't someone who'd lie either

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It's a bit like how Smash used to only have content from Nintendo in it

Goku is not getting in, you deaf piece of shit.
Face it! It's done. Pack your shit and jump ship to better candidates.
Over! Finito! Kaput!
Esto es el fin, pendejo.

>what is game&watch

>Um,

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I WANT MY MAHVEL

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>wanting goku in smash
>calling others autistic

Doomguy is pretty much confirmed.
Why wouldn't FPS have a rep?

>that chichi audio
Diamonds truly are the hardest metal

He mentioned Ironman before too when talking about non-vidya characters in smash, I guess it’s just a random example of a non-vidya character that popped into his head

That really doesn’t prove anything, pokemon was first an anime I think to promote the games. If it’s mainly a vidya character, they have a chance

Why is Persona in smash then?

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Well both Street Fighter and Fatal Fury are/will be represented in smash. Pokemon wouldn’t care too much since Yo-Kai Watch don’t bring out a game yearly

Actually, Pokemon Red/Green first released in 1996 in Japan, with the anime starting a year later in Japan on April 1, 1997

>yfw Reimu now OFFICIALLY has the best chance of any meme character because she's actually vidya

Can't tell if ironic or legit but damn is this funny.

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basically no

I'm happy that there are Japanese doom fans out there but i honestly don't care what the Japanese think of doom or if it's popular over there, why can't we in the west just get a character we enjoy without being tied to japan ?
>inb4 Japanese game by Japanese devs
This game isn't just some niche japan only game with a miniscule western fanbase, a lot of people all over the world play it and deserve to get characters they like.
>inb4 but banjo and terry
Both still came loaded with "BUT JAPANS LOVES THEM SO IT'S COOL THEY CAN BE IN SMASH"

Because he’s a video game character regardless of your autistic semantics

Because tasteless pieces of shit want their boring anime character in first.

underrated post

>>>>>>>>what you just said
Are you fucking retarded by any chance?

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>this many newfags

>All these legitimate autists (or Spergs as I like to call them) arguing semantics when any normal person knows exactly what he means
Exactly why the West gets the sideeye with their suggestions

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I love Neptune!

They already added Dracula as a boss so he's not off the table yet, right guys?

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AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH SORAFAGS WE GOT COCKY
THE GENOCHADS ARE LAUGHING AT US AGAIN

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Aw man I wanted to play as Lebron James

Well this explains a lot.

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>had a video game
>third movie had guys dressed as Pikachu and Charmander
HE'S FUCKING IN

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Square-Enix doesn't do anything with Mallow or Geno, because they believe they can hold out for money due to demand for them. Basically they want Nintendo to pay a higher price for them than Nintendo feels they should, or just flat out buy the entire rights to SMRPG from them for one big sum.

It's been going on for years. Square-Enix isn't stupid, they're being business savvy.

how is user this retarded....

According to dummies in this thread he’s fair game, but fuck that, we deserve the Harlem Globetrotters.

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Its a video game franchise.

They apparently did seeing as Geno and Mallow have jpegs in Ultimate.

This is the same case for basically all the disney characters and all the final fantasy characters in Kingdom Hearts. They are their own video game representations of themsleves

It's never gonna happen and remember I'll be laughing at you when wave 2 of DLC finishes and he still isn't in.

>Shantae and Geno got spirited
>Undertale already got a Sans Mii costume
>the Nicalis shitshow
>every single direct so far has improved her chances slightly by disproving retarded fan rules
>Toby Fox (read: lifelong 2hufag) meeting with Sakurai
>ZUN becoming more easy going with the IP
>an official game having a confirmed Switch port
>even after several months rosterfags STILL can't come up with a good argument against her being the indie pick
Is there even an indie left that could take the hypothetical slot? The only scenarios I can think about are Undertale double dipping and Quote still making it regardless of his company's slow death.

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>half of the posts quoted here obviously understand the joke
based newfag trying to seem oldfag

>Quote still making it regardless of his kidnapper's slow death.

Fixed.

Can you imagine just how shit this community would be if a non Vidya character got in
An already bad community got tremendously shittier as more 3rd worlders guest popped up and now the whole continent want their shit Vidya to get in. Can't imagine how much worse it'd get

A fourth party would genuinely kill roster discussion because at that point the scoop would be so big that speculation would be pointless. Be it manga, animation or real life people, there is just too many options to create a line.

Exactly,soulless franchises are NOT allowed.

arrest yourselves

>Touhou BTFO
Are you retarded or what?

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>licensed games

He's in

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>still falling for the cheapest bait ever
Like seriously, there is no cheaper bait than "touhou is anime!"

There's still a chance

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>and appeared on a Nintendo console
>Confirmed by Sakurai to not be a rule.
fuck off retard.

The appearing on a Nintendo console isn’t overt but I can see them only adding characters that have ties to Nintendo in some way. That said, it’s only video game characters, as reiterated by the man himself. You’d have to be underage or a massive sperg to want a non-vidya character in Smash anyway

Now THIS is based

Based. Fuck waifufags

Add the schedenfreude these people have for some of the picks within the Nintendo circle alone and you bet your ass there are idiots who'll push for a non-video game character as long as it pisses off someone.

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>literal who twitter
>"unofficial translator"

Iron man has 3 upcoming games actualy
Iron man vr
Ultimate alliance
Squenix avengers

if you're going to have a single non vidya character, spider-man

he'd fit in, if anyone

asagi is gonna be in then

>I love how you people take anything to twist back into whatever you want it to mean so you can keep screeching
I mean that's exactly what you're doing by extension. Sakurai does whatever the fuck he wants to do and nobody can predict his supposed patterns. How many times has he lied to us about character selections anyway.
see
>Ridley to Bigly

Oh, you're right. That totally justifies adding goofy and Donald as spirits

>this fucking FGO faggot doesn't know that fate started off as a fucking porn VN

jesus christ I know nothing about fate shit and even i know this
go die

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so what you're saying is...
HE'S IN

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Not entirely true, he also had a stupidly good RAR Bair and his Waddle Dee Toss let him actually play the distance game without risking his life like the Gordo Throw.

Imagine being one of the "people" that gives a shit.

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we got a real jam goin' down

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>An already bad community got tremendously shittier as more 3rd worlders guest popped up
Oh yeah, because Shantae, Geno and Banjo are B-BASED choices, thanks americans!!!

MER IL ET FOU

KH themselves managed to get rid of FF part of it almost entirely.
I see no issue of them getting rid of Disney part. Heck, you can get Nomura to design his own Disney OC and shove it in there.

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This is such a ridiculous argument, you’re basically saying that Shrek and Spongebob have valid chances because they can just use the specific versions of themselves from their games.

goku is in more games than most of the smash roster desu

bump

No

That doesn't take away the fact that he originated from a manga, so the rule still stands

Use better Chad

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Why does every development team have some jackass named Sakurai fucking everything up?

fire emblem genealogy of the holy war and thracia 776 need remakes first.

BASED

He never said he couldn't be made into a fighter, he said it would be difficult

they all originated from artwork

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Kid Goku would un-ironically fit in better than characters like Joker.

This, dear naive anons, is what we call "misdirection". It's similar to how they said shit like "I dunno, Banjo in Smash might be pretty difficult..." when they finalized the deal for him long before.

Just like Ridley being too big?

>I dunno, Banjo in Smash might be pretty difficult...
That's because it was when he said it back in 2003

I thought that one Xbox fucker went and said it as well, even right before the Banjo reveal

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based

Thank god Seiba hasn't appeared on any Nintendo system

nips like marvel and Iron man was poster boy for the past 10 years

who are you refering to?

I think it was Phil Spencer?

>another episode of "you don't know if user is playing retard for cheap laughs or is actually autistic"

Phil said multiple times he liked the idea of Banjo being in Smash

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>not playing pm and dismissing this casual trash
GET ON BOARD BRO

>

>the Nicalis shitshow
please someone explain, I'm curious

>Um
Confirmed weak bait.

I loved Cave Story but it's been a long time. Has someone made a moveset for Quote? I'm struggling to remember if he can do anything that isn't already covered by Mega Man.

Also, Sakurai loves shmups

Doom is too explicitly and unstylistically violent. That is why it's not getting representation on Smash, and thinking otherwise only proves you are incapable of coherent thought.

>"b-but Bayonetta/Snake/etc tho"
Just refrain from the retarded comparisons.

>the more hits he makes in a row his weapons level up, and vice versa
I want this

And now I noticed I replied to the wrong post. proving I'm incapable of corehent thought too.

Yesterday the head got caught making off color comments on the internet, which has now brought to light some of the other terrible stuff they've done to indie devs like how they sat on the console porting rights to a fighting game for years, almost did the same for La-Mulana's console port before the team took the rights back and gave them to someone else, and may have flat out jacked Cave Story from its original dev with an underhanded contract.

Holy shit, to think I ALMOST got to work with them. Thank you for the info.

What if Sakurai also wanted Toby's opinion on Reimu's depiction in the game?

That was him finally overcoming his autism somewhat.

What makes thr Cave Story bit especially bad is how Quote and Curly Brace became Nicalis' quasi mascots after getting the rights. Those two (or just Curly Brace) show up in practically every other game published under their name.

This is all so obvious and easy to understand, yet people here (and elsewhere) are screeching like idiots
>b-but m-muh!

I am sure Toby mentioned Touhou if Sakurai ever talked to him about his inspirations when making Undertale.

So wait, does Pixel see any money from Cave Story sales? He must

All I see is Sakurai's smoke and mirrors deflecting from my man's entrance into Smash

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I don't get it. The DQ heros basically filled the Dragon Ball autism niche. So why are those retarded inbreds still asking for it ?
It'd legitimately be the first time in Smash where two characters look the same. Not even the FE faggots can compete with Toriyama's sameface.
So like, fuck off.

Maybe just the original Wii/Dsi ports, but at this point Pixel does not see a cent.

Goku's already in the game.

>One said that Rodriguez would monitor employees’ Twitter accounts and tell them not to interact with certain people.
That explains a lot. I've also heard rumors that talents are ignored by Nicalis staff simply because Rodriguez ghosted them, despite Nicalis having interest in their work.

You have three Gokus and a Trunks already, play one of those

Add Tachibana Hibiki to smash you cowards

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>Sony character gets in before Crash
It's not fair bros.

If anything you should be arguing that Megami Tensei was based on a book

>So why are those retarded inbreds still asking for it ?
You already answered it