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Were you sobbing at release of the second game because of how utterly irredeemably SHIT it was compared to the first game?
If not everything after was directly your fault.
Waaah my cinematic movie game series is dead
there is still hope
haha just kidding, this shits never coming out
good riddance to bad rubbish
2 was better than 1
2 has actual characters instead of whatever Ashley and Kaiden are supposed to be. Becoming a spectre is pretty cool though.
>garbage stereotypes
>actual characters
I rest my case.
Ashley and Kaiden had the most character of the ME cast. Their "problem" was that they were human.
Tali was a talking codex entry and had 0 character. Liar could be summed up as a young scientist. Wrex was also a walking codex entry but at least you saw hints of a character with his resentment to Krogans and unwillingness to take money.
Garrus was the closest to having character even if he was basically a cop who hates red-tape. But he never felt like a walking codex. If you actually talk to Kaiden and Ashley you will see they are pretty developed.
It's nice that you think that, but if you were here on release, you'd know you're in the wrong. Any problem you have with ME2 is either
>EA exec meddling
>ME1 introduced it
>if you were here on release
I was, the threads were waifu circlejerk centrals, nothing more.
Wrong.
2 > 3 > Andromeda > literal shit > 1
Only autistic redditors like Mass Effect 1
>mfw there will never EVER be another mass effect
Anither contrarian pretending 1 isnt garbage compared to 2 and 3
Sad
>normalfag calling others reddit
>Ashley and Kaiden had the most character of the ME cast.
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!
>He enjoys Dragon Age
I've been thinking of getting into the series but i don't know what console to play it on
You are the contrarian for thinging a literal filler episode with worse combat/RPG mechanics, world building, and level/hub design is somehow worse than the first game.
ME is shit. Just don't bother.
There is literally nothing wrong with liking Origins
1. It's not dead
2. It's not as cinematic as you might think, actually do research before talking about a subject you know nothing about
3. No need to be a dick about it
Yes !
Are there really options besides 360 or PC? PS3 and WiiU never got the entire trilogy
2 is significantly better than 1. Cope harder.
>all this cope
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I unironically enjoyed 2 the most. 1 had great concepts but also great flaws: exploration was 90% finding nothing 10% finding the same prefab shelters but with occasionally different furniture and enemies. It also had a horrid inventory management.
2 had tuned down exploration, but when you found a planet with an actual side quest, it was actually interesting. Planet scanning only got bad if you were autistic and scoured a planet to every last drop of its resources. A shame that weapon upgrades were not done like in ME1 or ME3. ME2 had hands down the best dialogues, and renegade interrupts were fucking awesome. Missions were unique and all great in their own way, people might complain that the entire game consists of solving your party's personal issues, but hat doesn't make the missions themselves any less enjoyable.
What is it, user?
You can play all three OT games on the PS3.
Andromeda has funnish gameplay but bugs kill that game even to this day. Also boring story
What the fuck do you sped zoomers see in this shit series? It's barely even an rpg, the "science" is fucking boring, artstyle is trash, music is not memorable, aliens all look the same. Get over yourselves already, worse than smashfags and general nintendo autists.
This series had four games and only one was innovative. ME1 was the prototypical action-RPG of its generation, ME2 and ME3 sacrificed a lot of what made the first game compelling in the pursuit of polish and turn-of-the-decade casualization; while they were better shooters they were worse RPGs and far, far worse stories. By the time Andromeda rolled around there was nothing new about it and they still couldn't execute properly. Then they went on to make many of the exact same mistakes in Anthem.
>Can't refute my points so he just replies with shitty memes
Thanks for proving right bro
>worse than smashfags and general nintendo autists.
>ME gets two or three threads a month
>Smash gets several threads a day
ME2 was a downgrade at every level.
>streamlined gameplay
>streamlined powers
>streamlined missions
>lack of customization
>no exploration
>no inventory
>no weapon mods
>thermal clips
Also killing the main character in the prologue was a really dumb idea.
I like it more than the snoozefest ME1
So far ever since I returned to this hellhole I always see these cringe Mass Effect frogposting threads. This series is fucking abysmal and I don't know why zoomers are nostalgiafagging over it, I can certainly say it's waifufag shit for sure because LOL FLOATY SEX SCENE THAT FADES IN AND OUT MAKE PEE PEE HARD.
At least Anthem has fun gameplay. You can't say that about shite effect.
What's that?
>LOL FLOATY SEX SCENE THAT FADES IN AND OUT MAKE PEE PEE HARD
this is the only reason anyone gives a fuck about it
sad, really
Shoah Citizen
Drwgon Age is a walking corpse. I'd rather be dead than a zombie.
Both 2 and 1 are equally fun in their own right
But let us not speak about 3.
>he claims while posting Witcher 3
>reaction image
Fucking retard.
Yeah the nerve of some people posting images on an image board!
3 would have been an abortion but the kick to the dick that was ME2's introduction made the absolute cunt punt of ME3's introduction bearable
>using reaction images from media he hasn't personally experienced
That still doesn't explain how it's worse than Smash threads
>"God... Feel like years since I just... sat down..."
Drack is a better companion than Wrex. Vetra is also good. Too bad most of Andromeda sucks
Maybe I was being a bit hyperbolic because the smashfag and Monster Hunter autism is almost unbeatable, still obnoxious as fuck because aside the porn theres nothing even remotely rememberable from this shit series.
>Oh no i dont have shity invenotry full of usless upgrades
>Oh k ow i dont have copy pasted barren worlds to traverse in the shitty mako
Your the reason open world and crafting shit is runing every fucking game
Do Mass Effect fags really think these look good?
God damn your right, i only wanna play the game just to make my FemShep a lesbian
and you're the reason why we got ME2 and ME3.
Good enough
looks cool to me
This is fucking Halo magnum levels of bad, and that was the only repulsive gun in the series.
Wrex is an optional character that has one dimension. He likes killing things. Grunt is a better character and you actually help him become a real Krogan.
What was Ashley's character? I played all 3 games extensively and I couldn't tell you one single fact about her.
>ME2
>Didn't have a spec ops scientist that culled the krogans
>didn't have a friendly geth
You're right, punching someone in the citadel is much more impactful. 1 was a good game but 2 was just better where it mattered. Gameplay and lore. At the end of the day nobody cared bout having a gun you can hold m1 on and never have to worry about heat. That's all the customization in ME1 offered.
I respectfully disagree with some, but not all of those points.
>streamlined gameplay
>streamlined powers
Reducing the RPG element this way was a mistake.
>streamlined missions
If by that you mean that they were shorter, yes. There were also much more of them, they were short but not too short, unique and exciting.
>lack of customization
Agreed, but let's not forget that ME1's "customization" was a fuckton of different, shitty looking skins put on like, a total of like 6 armor models, armors for party counted. ME2 had suberb armor models and skins.
>no exploration
Side quests that you could find via scanning were superior to ME1, which, as I said consisted mostly of driving around empty planets until finding a prefab shelter.
>no inventory
Yes. ME1's inventory was something only a logistics officer could love, but ME2 overkilled its simplification.
>no weapon mods
Yes, that was too bad.
>thermal clips
Not a bad thing, though the lore behind them was very weak.
ME1 was very open, but exploration was repetitive and got boring real fast for me. I wish there was SOME of it in ME2, but its absence is by far outweighted for me by its positive aspects.
The puzzles are tiresome and irritating and the navpoints fight with you rather than help you out in almost every mission. Combat feels more like a nerf gun fight than an actual firefight. Also those faces will never not be jarringly weird like they were pasted on.
You guys have some really low standards.
>Wrex is an optional character that has one dimension. He likes killing things.
Bulllllshit
Wrex is a broken man who knows his people are fucking doomed but are to stupid to see it so hes given up, hes bitter but insightfull, any one who says he just like killing hasnt played the fucking game
The Avenger design is iconic.
BTW can we just all agree how the traits of different species were watered down through the series? ME1 established that the different species had some very unique behaviour patterns and provided ample proof with its characters. By ME3 everyone were just reskinned humans.
That's a good thing
It's sad that while Andromeda is by far the worst ME game it has by far the best gameplay/combat
>no fem turian romance in a good game
Dose it?
The enemies are bullet sounges with braindead ai, you cant coordinate your allies, the cooldowns are insane and letting you use any power you want cuts downn on replay. There are some neat ideas in there but the flaws hold it back
like every single alien species in any media ever
i have yet to see a story with an alien race that isn't completely mono-cultural
It's so not iconic I can't tell what the fuck any of them are. Is the Avenger suppose to be that ugly ass sniper rifle? Or that gross round rifle?
>The enemies are bullet sponges with braindead ai
Welcome to Mass Effect
Yes there are cultural attitudes
But no species has every ine the same
>no class system
>can't change the loadout of your squadmates
>"best gameplay/combat"
Really?
They were never that bad and always had plenty of variety to keep it intresting.
Andromeda has the same 3 enemies re skinned and substitutes good ai for jist throwing lots of them at yiu
Based basketball simulator image. Your opinion is obviously superiour
It's in a better place now.
Away from the ever-changing writing staff.
Idk why you people think andromeda's the worst game, it's better than 3 in every conceivable way
No the writing in 3 is so much stronger, muktlayer is more reward and shepard isnt a fucking mcu quipster
Tell me which ways it's better.
1 was more fun for me, but 2 was a lot more polished so it really wasnt that much worse
The only thing Andromeda does better than previous ME games is combat and exploration.
In regards to everything else it's worse.
People didn't point this out since few finished it, but there's literally only one ending.
The choices you make literally don't matter, there's not even a "choose one of the three endings" like in ME3.
How the fuck is 3s write stronger, it trivialized every conflict in the trilogy into its most dumbed down form.
The genophage goes becomes about how the krogan are victims, the qaurains/geth becomes pseudo philosophical the geth have souls and are victims, Cerberus goes full cartoon villainous. Everything about 3 shits on everything before it.
Gameplay, graphics, squad mates, and storytelling are all better than 3
I only played it for the gay. And it wasn’t worth it
Rest of the game sucks. Fuck you, BioWare. You deserve to go under for the flop that was Anthem. Hope it was worth it
Because Andromeda doesn't stay faithful even to it's premise.
The game was sold as an adventure where you go to a brand new galaxy full of unknown shit and colonize remote planets.
But the whole thing about colonizing and being a pathfinder only lasts for the first act of the game until you find the Archon.
In that moment the game becomes about helping the Angara and fighting the Kett.
Plus, the whole deal of colonizing is weak as hell to begin with because all the planets except Eos are already settled to some extent.
This comes from the problem that there's only three new species and two of them just shoot you on sight, so they had to just fill the galaxy with species that already existed so that it wouldn't be entirely empty.
The game starts with a weak premise and then it just turns into chasing a saturday morning cartoon version of the Reapers.
Not a single choice in the game not mattering at all doesn't help.
You raise some fair points, but I'm not arguing that ME:A is a good game.
I'm saying its a better game than the unfettered dumpster fire that is Mass Effect 3
And one ending were my choices didn't matter is less insulting than the same ending 3 times pretending that they did.
It's not because you take a ton of choices throughout the game.
Even if its recolors, choices matter to some extent in ME3, since they can mean life and death for some characters, plus choices directly affect the war assets which, in turn, affects the level of negative side effects using the Crucible will have.
Andromeda has a ton of choices, some of which make it seem like they are pivotal, like choosing whether the settlements should be focused on military or scientific duties, or between saving a Pathfinder or Drax's soldiers, but none of them matter at all, nothing happens afterwards. The most you get is a line of dialogue, if it gets any attention.
Also, it's worth pointing out the retardation of
>Oh, the Krogan are just getting over the genophage naturally, so it's fine.
which is pointless because they say that it only increases fertility in less than 1%.
It's an asspull to cover something extremely important in Mass Effect and doesn't even get rid of the problem.
Even in the milky way they were killing each other over fertile females.
Who the hell even uses the default weapons?
360. PC version has various problems
I've never ran into anything gamebreaking in the first one on PC. I fell through the floor and eventually the universe apparently in 2 a couple times but that was it. I'd recommend playing the trilogy on PC since it generally looks significantly better on high settings and you have the benefit of modding which I would not recommend going without in 3.
The second one had absolutely fucked sensitivity settings for me. There were some other problems I can't really remember, but I just think it was easier on 360
Doubt it or you would have seen all the Stormwaltz stuff
Could have been a perfect trilogy and then we got the last 10 minutes of 3
>best gameplay/combat
Mass Effect 3 has the best combat. Jetpacks are a novelty, and it's the only thing MEA has over 3 in the combat department
WE SYNTHETIC BEINGS HAVE TO KILL THE ORGANICS BEFORE THEY CREATED SYNTHETIC BEINGS THAT KILL THE ORGANICS
AND WE TAKE SOME OF THEM AND TURN THEM INTO A GENETIC GOOP TO PUT IN A FLYING GRAVEYARD GUNSHIP TO KEEP DOING THIS FOREVER
WE HAVE DONE THIS FOR COUNTLESS EONS BECAUSE THIS IS FINE AND MAKES PERFECT SENSE
Are you a downie?
PC because it is better in every aspect than c*nsoles
>Could have been a perfect trilogy and then we got the last 10 minutes of 3
>he actually likes Pinocchio
>he actually likes kai leng
>he actually likes auto dialogue
>What was Ashley's character? I played all 3 games extensively and I couldn't tell you one single fact about her.
She's religious
She's distrustful of aliens but not quite xenophobic
She's the granddaughter of the general who surrendered during the First Contact War, making it hard for her to advance in her career
This
everything was downhill after 1
>dies offscreen and gets replaced by a butterface celebrity cameo
Like this guy said
To go with the last one, she suffers from serious guilt over her grandfather that caused her to feel like a failure.
She feels a particular love for her father. Falling in love with things he loved, which is why she enjoys poetry so much.
Seeing her father salute her was one of her fondest memories of him because it helped make her feel like she is slowly redeeming her grandfather's failure.
>Bioware is a feminist company
>that also callously disposes of female side characters to replace them with a fuckable avatar of a model who professionally reads a prompter for IGN
At least Chobot was slightly better at VA than Deana Troy and Trinity.
Chobot was far worse than Benezia or Aria
>retarded melodramatic bird poetry on her death bed
>flat line reads of the most generic tough girl "badass" character ever
>basically just playing herself and talking the same way she talks in real life
They're all shit, but Benezia makes me laugh and Aria makes me cringe through gritted teeth. Allers is just there.
>dies offscreen
Not entirely, she posted on her twitter before going asian driver on a reaper
All the weapons look like that, hideous and not looking like an actual gun like pic related.
Based
>Were you sobbing at release of the second game because of how utterly irredeemably SHIT it was compared to the first game?
Are you fucking serious with this reply right now or is this pasta?
Why though? I would have actually like Wong embedded on my ship.
Hell I'd have taken kalisah bint al-jilani over Cobot
You their guns work nothing like ours right?
2 is and will always be my favorite
Get fucked.
>he likes gears of war
Man too bad shes so fucking annoying in 2 and 3 that I kill her every time
>he likes objectively worse gameplay
Keep piling it on, retard, nobody here is impressed at your neckbeard hipster preference for the first game.
I loved her in the first game, and I hate how they ruined her in the later games. Especially 3
>he likes 1's dogshit gameplay
I played the games in reverse order so I went in with the mental image of her from 3, so I never really bothered to get to know her. I'll admit tho, this thread made me baka ar bioware cuz it sounds like they threw away an actually decent character.
Yes yes I know lore autism, Star Wars and Warhammer 40k has that too and their guns aren't repulsive toys.
>combat = gameplay
I know Cod is your favourite franchise but there's more to gameplay than shooting people.
Also the combat is better in 1, as it isn't a static corridor shooter.
As I said, the human characters had the most character in the first game. This issue is that they are human, nothing special, everyone wanted to take the weird aliens out because that was something different. So the later games built up those alien companions making them more enjoyable while completely dropping the humans.
End result, by the end of the series, the other companions got built up into well rounded characters, while the ME1 characters never evolved pass their ME versions
Makes sense and also is very sad
It's because here character writer got removed from the project during 2's development. It's the same writer as who wrote the codex, Noveria and planet descriptions in 1.
He, Karpyshan and Hudson developed the universe.
I always forget the greatest troglodytes of all are found in two places, the CSGO community and Yea Forums
>troglodytes
says the guy who thinks ME2 is better than 1
Why can't video game companies keep staff on a project ever
Says the guy who doesn't understand gameplay and story are in a delicate balance and while 1's story is the best and 3's gameplay is the best 2's story and gameplay are both pretty good ergo making it my personal favorite.
Karpyshan and l'Etoile weren't playing ball with the EA execs over changes they wanted to the story Hudson was the only one of the "visionaries" who was willing to work with the arbitrary nonsense EA wanted.
Says the guy who doesn't understand that gameplay and combat are not synonymous. The Mako and exploration was a bit Janky in ME 1 how does bioware fix it? it just removes it entirely. The inventory system in ME 1 isn't great what does ME 2 do? removes it entirely. Mass Effect 1 is a far better RPG than Mass Effect 2, but Mass Effect 2 is a better action game.
360 has aged appallingly. You'd be stupid to play it on anything but PC in 2019
>finally get to playing ME1 after Yea Forums tells me it's way better than 2
>it's almost mechanically identical to 2
is there something I'm missing or is it just the contrarian opinion to prefer 1 over 2?
Sir maybe you should have worn some body armor.
>play as a woman
>Anderson doesn't say "you good son"
Why does Yea Forums play as a woman?
oh shut the fuck up your retard.
finish Mass Effect 1 then report back.
People aren't saying it's better due to the combat mechanics it's everything else.
>you will never be 18 again and bring your xbox to your girlfriend's place because her parents were away for the weekend and spend the whole weekend having sex, walking the dog with her in the woods and playing mass effect after she falls asleep midway during one of the two movies you rented
>People aren't saying it's better due to the combat mechanics
you mean other than how me2 gutted all the skill trees and gear customization
pic related, it's you
Yes and how it removed exploration, decent story telling and the ability to follow multiple paths to the same goal.
>special forces decks her in the face
>doesn't pass out
>still is able to call the SF a son of a bitch
>then get back up
They should have just thrown her at the reapers, by comparison, Sheppard comes across an unsuccessful pussy by the end of ME3.
Star Wars is just a bunch of random kit fuckery on WW2 guns and they shoot who the fuck knows what. Fuck Star Wars.
Just because ME2's combat isnt good doesnt mean ME1's is good
She’s in the second one for like 20 seconds dude the fuck.
what the fuck is that thing supposed to even fold out and do? And is the front sight made of fucking cable?
No fuck off.
Everyone who disagrees with this is wrong, and its quite simple to prove. What was fixed in 2? Nothing tangible.
Nothing introduced in 1 was expanded on. Nothing flawed in 1 was fixed, just ignored or removed.
The third game was set for failure because the second one put it there. How would you have completed the trilogy, springboarding off of the back of 2? Remember that every crew member is forced to be optional. In retrospect, EDI was downright graceful as a method of pushing the plot along.
2 was percieved as less flawed by simpletons, because there was simply less. Less story to have plot holes in. Less mechanics to break. Less characterization to find wrong. Less gametime to be bored of. Less game.
I didn't miss the mako and inventory so idk, but I agree 100% me2 is more action than rpg
i think 1 felt closer to Kotor which great but 2 did some things better like combat and general flow.
They might as well have just said “lol fuck the first game” instead of that text intro before they blow your ass out into space like flushing a stellar toilet in 2. I was mad before any of you.
It's interesting you say that, cuz for someone who played 2 before one, I thought that was a cool intro
Another thing-
Sheperd's true first failure EVER if you play paragon and have everyone survive? It's to KAI FUCKING LENG ON FUCKING THESSIA. I hate that character so, goddamn much. He is potential the worst character in modern gaming. Good god he is awful.
Fuck you bioware.
It was symbolically abandoning what they had done in the first game. Turns out, they did it in reality too.
And that makes perfect sense, I just never thought about it that way before.
game 1: mediocre rpg
game 2: mediocre gears clone
game 3 and beyond: irredeemable garbage
not sure why anybody would lament this series
Dunno if people will still get butthurt about 5 year old spoilers but I'll do it anyway just to be safe. I personally hated how Good. You opened this message. This isn't actually asari military command. They're busy tending to what's left of their planet.
So you survived our fight on Thessia. You're not as weak as I thought. But never forget that your best wasn't good enough to stop me. Now an entire planet is dying because you lacked the strength to win. The legend of Shepard needs to be re-written. I hope I'm there for the last chapter. It ends with your death.
It's like an Xbox live message from a twelve year old.
Much like the mod for F:NV, new vegas bounties 3, I desperately wish there were dialogue choices to flex on the faggy foes that obsess over your legacy by telling then you don't care
I took the tone of the Citadel DLC more seriously than that stupid fucker and it's basically a spoof.
2 is garbage.
I get the impression that somebody high up in development on the third game was having some sort of weird parent-child drama or some shit. Between Kai Leng inexplicably being in the game and that stupid star child horse shit I find it hard to ignore the possibility.
Cringe.
I believe it. Kai lang was absolutly some kids OC
Just consider. There is more codex added before the end of me1, not including the entries already in the codex at the start of the game, than there are codex entries added in the entirety of 2 and 3.
it actually had a really entertaining multiplayer coops mode in 3 that i would have played for 500 hours aslong as the retard boomer management team put it on steam
>The non-hostile geth, Rachni, Vorcha, and Batarians will forever be bound to the realm of little to no relevance
And that's not even counting the Hanar, Drell, Volus, and Elkor.
Nope, gotta use that piece of shit Origin I reckon. Bioware should have tried to sell to Microsoft instead of EA.
pc has problems but you get texture mods and believe me, it'll look terrible if you don't have MEUITM
make sure you actually know something before commenting. thanks
>yeah, let's rip it all out and make a soulless game instead of improving what we started in ME1
fucking retard piece of shit mentality that destroyed the ME series
cringe
>Strap mg and fg 42
>Call it blaster
Bravo Lucas.
Newfag detected. Mass effect 2 is a good game and everyone here agreed when it came out
This is one of the worst replies I've ever seen on this board. holy shit you suck dude lmao
I'm replaying 2 now and the counter of game-breaking and literally campaign-ending glitches is already at 2 and I know there's still at least one coming. Kasumi's mission corrupts autosaves and crashes in the end. Liara's mission creates a proximity mine on Illium that crashes the game if you approach her office while your graphics setting are at max. And once you finish Liara's mission you can't leave her ship without crashing except that one time she can come with you.
Also everything that isn't the assault rifle or SMG runs out of AMMO instantly and by the time a gun finally gets to RELOAD it's been about ten times the amount of time it takes for that gun to cool down from total overheat in the previous game.
fans of the first game criticized it for being a dumbed down version of a game that was already sparse on rpg mechanics
the people that liked it didn't like mass effect, they liked halo
Only sonybros who were just happy to take a microsoft 'exclusive'
If ME3 was a good game this discussion wouldn't be happening. People turned on 2 because of 3, and that's not fair
I missed the initial hype and disappointment because I didn't get into the series until years later. My impression was that ME1 was a flawed game but ME2 fixed all of those bad features by throwing them all in the trash and replacing them with something completely different and often worse.
If the upgrade inventory is useless, you never even have to open it and look at it.
2 is fucking shit and I can't stand retards who defend it
>Severely dumbed down skills (way more dumbed down than Skyrim compared to Oblivion)
>Thermal clips and ammo is retarded
>Normandy gets rekt and Shep dies - and then he gets a new Normandy and comes back to life immediately (this is just fucking awful story telling and makes no sense)
>Shep has to side with Cerberus, the people who he has been fighting and killing for most of ME1
>Most levels are straight forward hallways rather than areas you explore
>The entire plotline of "THE REAPERS ARE COMING WE HAVE TO BAND TOGETHER TO SAVE THE UNIVERSE" gets dropped in favor of "hey some colonies are getting rekt by collectors and they are making a terminator lets go kill them"
The only good part of 2 is the number of squadmates and how fleshed out they are despite the large number of them
Everything else about 2 is a direct step down from 1
So what do you reckon the odds are for a remastered trilogy of sorts? I don't see it happening, but I'd be all over it.
Already happened. There was a ME collection that got released for PS3.
holy shit check out all the completely wrong opinions
Star Citizen. Also known here as Scam Citizen despite the fact that you can play it right now. However, I don't recommend buying into it until those faggots actually release it. They dont need any more money. The feature creep for that game is so overwhelming that it has delayed its release by half a decade. No joke.
That being said, I backed the game in 2014 and i am still waiting to get off this wild ride. Don't be like me.