Tell me again why he isn't in at this point
>Long history with Nintendo
>Much needed FPS representation
>Free advertising
>Ports of Doom 1, 2, 3 came very recently
>64 and Eternal coming soon
>Only system to have every mainline Doom game
>Nintendo allegedly talked to Bethesda about Smash
>Bethesda has been loving Doom this year
>Doom twitter account has gone completely silent about Smash
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Before anyone claims Cero Z, remember that not all doom games fall under that rating
Get a goddamn separate smash forum of your own already you troglodytes.
Nah
>T.T why do people discuss vidya on the vidya board
sorry your lazy bait thread died user
Fighter pass character #5 hopefully
because the default model will be Doomslayer aka the full armored faggot rather than the original Doomguy.
Level those expectations. I want him too but all we can really do is argue on behalf of him being a good inclusion. No amount of "He's in!" will actually make him in.
No
Fuck you
reminder that otis is literally a tranny
>Joker’s background: red
>Hero’s background: purple
>Banjo’s background: yellow
>Terry’s background: blue
>all colors related to the characters in some way
>last fighter is likely to be green or orange
You say this but do you really think they're going to limit their character choice by the fucking background colors they give them?
Before some retard brings up Cero-Z let me post this
They obviously picked the characters BEFORE the colors you fucking retard.
you forget japan's terminal case of shit taste, i don't think they know or care about nearly any FPS
>Doom twitter account has gone completely silent about Smash
Literally what does this have to do with anything.
Then why would we be able to discern ANYTHING from the colors?
pattern fagging is always gay but doom would be completely justified with a orange background
TGS advertising the game has nothing to do with Nintendo.
You'd be surprised man. It's up to Sakurai and he praises Doom as the forefather of fps games.
fuck you retard
No, he praised Carmack as the father of FPS. He never mentioned Doom and Wolfenstein came first anyway.
>Much needed fps representation
There's no shmup yet those have been around for much longer. Also
>Metroid Prime
I mean, Pitfall came first, but Mario popularized platformers. Wolfenstein wouldn't really have a chance here.
>>long history with Nintendo
What a fucking retarded fucking smashfag
But Star Fox is there? Also most shmup mascots are aircrafts, which goes horribly with Smash gameplay.
Considering the alts for Joker and Hero (and probably either the jacket or SNK Heroines as an alt for Terry), I'd be surprised if Doomguy wasn't an alt for Slayer.
Also Doomguy isn't just fps representation, he's the icon of PC gaming, in a game that now has Terry, Joker and frickin Sans he would fit perfectly.
>Doom twitter account has gone completely silent about Smash
the dude running the twitter account is privy to jack shit
>pc gaming icon of the 90s
>has had more main entries than doom, clearly more popular
>actually has a personality unlike angry space man
>huge moveset potential
>child friendly
>would be the first point and click rep, a genre much more respectable and thought-provoking than the first person shooter genre
face it doomfags, he's in
Now I actually want to see them try a shmup character.
If you're afraid of them always being in the air, just use Opa-Opa and just make it use it's legs.
He isn't in because, apparently, he did not appear in the list made by nintendo and later given to Sakurai.
You got a source for that or are you just gonna talk out of your ass
I mean, Sakurai chose the original Pac-Man instead of the ghostly adventures version. And he chose the classic Simon Belmont instead of the red haired version. I'd doubt he'd go along with using the 2016 version of doomguy. even if they did, he'd be an alternate costume (like the school version of Joker)
too good for smash
illiterate, uneducated smash fans will complain if he isn't entirely based on 2016
imagine not playing the fps equivalent of fucking tetris
source: dude trust me
Nintendo also owns Mario.
Based
Post what you'd want from a Doomguy fighter pass.
>alts for Doom Slayer / Doom Guy
>icon during fights is interactive, Doomguy's face is bruised and hurt as the fight goes on, Slayers' gets redder and cracked
>Doomguy has grunts, screams, and yells, Slayer does not
>stage is Kadingir Sanctum if nuDoom music plays, or Inferno if Classic music plays. Inferno is retro and looks exactly like Classic Doom
It worked for Ridley and K.Rool.
HE’S NEXT but Doomguy is the first character in the second set of dlc
I seem to recall Ridley getting btfo hard twice. Pretending that he was in did not magically make him appear in Ultimate. Consistent support and solid arguments for inclusion got him in Ultimate. That's all you need to do, you don't need to look for reasons as to why your character is already in or why the game would be worse should he not make it in.
BASED
but user Slayer has grunts now
He's been on Nintendo consoles since the SNES days, the fuck are you talking about?
Also stuck with Sonic from Brawl, and didn't do Boom. He always goes for the classics. That's why Doomguy will have his classic armor, and Ryu Hayabusa will have his purple garb
Jacket won't work because of the lack of cap, and heroines's proportions are way off to fit on smash terry without deforming horribly
He's getting 8 standard alts like banjo and waifufags are gonna bitch about it
dragging their feet
wanting to get the ones that Japan (and Sakurai) like more in before him
despite what dumb asses say, DQ and KoF are decently known in the states
Doom is probably closer to a literally who in Japan
What IS the problem people have with trans people here? It's not like I'm a big supporter of them, and I can understand that transsexuals have probably pestered more than a few people on this site, but hey, it's kind of silly to wage a verbal 10th crusade against them.
Honestly that just gives Sakurai a reason to give japs a history lesson on the series.
Though Doom isn't that popular in Japan, I'm sure they're aware of its existence and its contribution to the history of gaming.
I think they've been slowly trying
>all the Dooms are on Switch!
>and now here's Mr. idsoftman to tell you how cool and important Doom 64 was!
Plus it's not exactly banned there. It's just that that Doom is to them what Dragon Quest is to us. An alien franchise that never took off.
I actually follow a few Japanese Doom fans on twitter and there's enough of a community over there that they put together a (rather awesome) community megawad. A series being relatively unknown in a region of the world gives a company like Bethesda all the more reason to get the protagonist from that franchise into Smash. With how much porting they're doing on the Switch you can practically see the deal they made behind closed doors.
>I'm sure they're aware of its existence
doomwiki.org
Obviously it's not huge in Nipland, but a lot of them were released there. The original is on the Saturn and 32X. They have the Switch versions.
>youtube.com
Gotta love Duumu Rokujuyon
Ha. Ya think in Japan they call Doomguy "Akuma Slayer"?
They call him "Big Johnny"
Japanese Doom community produces cute and wholesome art.
Isn't Goblin Slayer mostly inspired by Doom as well? And that's a pretty popular series.
No shit?
Dragon Quest Hero and Doomguy in the same fighter pass would be extremely fitting because they were both the number one cause of decreased work productivity in their respective parts of the world.
>Goblin Slayer mostly inspired by Doom as well?
It is. Hell in one of the panels the phrase "rip and tear" is used. And Goblin Slayer's english VA is the man who did the mocap for Doom Slayer himself. Brad Hawkins.
Doom 64 wasn’t even shown off in the Japan Direct
Is that your only excuse as to why he won't get in?
Sakurai perfers to work with japan companies
No doom is incredibly obscure in Japan and nobody gave a fuck about his inclusion until the bullshit leak that contained Steve and Hayabusa. Nobody talked about him during the ballot
You forget how many zoomers post here
So if he gets in sakurai can give nips a history lesson on the series. Ok.
Nah, I remember when Doom 2016 was first announced on switch people started making a bunch of memes and talking about how he should be in. The fact fake leakers put him in their bullshit to make their "leaks" seem more realistic should tell you how likely his chances are.
>Sakurai perfers to work with japan companies
what is banjo
>No doom is incredibly obscure in Japan
nigga didn't read the thread
lmao
That’s not gonna happen, Sakurai never panders to the west unless they have huge fan demand which Doomguy doesn’t have, he was bored as fuck showing off banjo
Steve was in every single bullshit leak, fake leaks anyone can make doesn’t make a character more likely
doombros....we got too cocky....
>Wolfenstein came first anyway
Wolfenstein wasn't even id's first fps. Additionally, Wolf 3D didn't popularize the fps genre like Doom did. Calling Doom the "father" of fps is fair since it's the game almost everyone started copying or used as a base anyway.
LOL Doomguy is a literal zoomer meme akin to Steve. No one fucking knows who the fuck this guy is besides the people that frequent the internet and social medias. Want the same character but more recognizable? Master Chief is your answer.
DOOM is Rayman levels of popularity in Japan which is none at all
>He always goes for the classics.
Your example of Sonic literally goes against that.
>nobody gave a fuck about his inclusion until the bullshit leak that contained Steve and Hayabusa
People already were talking about his possible inclusion once Doom 2016 received a Switch port, hence why he was included in that leak.
>Long history with Nintendo
Wrong.
I saw zero Doomguy support until that leak, prove me otherwise
OMG BASED BASED I THINK HE'S IN!!!!!
>I saw zero Doomguy support until that leak
Not my problem.
>can’t find me substantial Doomguy support
Check the archives dumbo.
Then you better get looking, Mr. Krabs.
I believe he will be in the second pass.
After ridley, Krool and banjo. I believe the last one will be geno. The last super popular character.
Doom on SNES
Doom 1-2 on GBA
Doom 64
Doom 2016
Doom Eternal
Doom 1, 2, 3, and 64 on Switch.
Implying he isn't gonna give us history lessons on shit like puyo first
>Doomguy smash bros
>365 results
Fucking lol
>Doom 1 on SNES
>1 and 2 on GBA
>Doom 64, a Nintendo exclusive
>Doom 2016
>Doom Eternal
>Switch is the only system to have every mainline Doom game
>what is banjo
A single western character in a pass with 4 japanese characters
This is adorable, please post more.
sure user
plenty of doomfags predating 5ch's leak (dec 2019) you silly, check the archives
>game releases on popular Nintendo hardware so that means it has deep history with Nintendo
I personally am getting sick of Doomguy threads for smash, mainly because autistic rosterfags are retroactively calling Doom "not relevant" because he isn't what they want in the game.
Fuck it, what wads are you faggots playing at the moment? Any that you are making?
It’s what Sakurai said because there’s no language barrier
I'm new to the series so I'm playing through Doom 2 for the first time. The new enemies are great and early stages are fun but the city levels were a slog. I'm down to Hell now. Looking forward to 64 next.
Because DLC takes a long time to develop.
As said about orange, but also doom guy always wears green powerarmor.
traps are gay lmao
I wish people would just come out and say they don't want him in the game like they actually want to instead of trying to present these stupid fucking arguments of "why he can't be in." Rosterfaggotry is hideous.
Doom was the biggest PC game of the 90's, and is easily one of the most historic franchises right up there with mario, zelda, GTA.
Try to push through the city maps because it gets a lot better. Downtown is a fucking abomination of a level. I kinda like Industrial Zone though since I thought the big lava fracture in the ground in the middle of the map was cool as a kid.
Once you are done with 64, do Plutonia and become a man.
I still think Doomguy and Crash are safe and highly likely western picks I can see getting in at some point
Why are you projecting onto Sakurai?
Steve
Didn't TNT come first? I was going to play that before Plutonia.
Watch the banjo showcase video it was clear that he didn’t give a fuck
They came out at the same time. TNT is just boring compared to most other classic doom games.
Did you forget the point you were originally trying to make?
Banjo is a boring character that only appeals to a small western fanbase who happens to also belong to the smash/nintendo fanbase.
Doom on the otherhand is extremely mainstream amongst western gamers, and is the most pirated game of all time.
TNT's maps are pretty boring but the music is GREAT.
>Two sides of the same coin
>Both started on PC
>Represents the West and the East
>Both have huge legacy and influence in their respective regions
>One is a literal who in the East, the other a literal who in the West
>One represents grimdark violence and aggression, the other represents elegance and beauty
>One is known for ultra violence, the other for lewds
>Both are known genocidal maniacs
>Both make Hell their bitch
They are still possible
Being in a bullshit leak doesn’t booster a characters chances
Sneed
>discuss vidya
[insert character]fag shitposting isn't vidya discussion
>doom 64
>mainline
Reimufags ruined doombros, fuck off
Yet banjo had miles more fan demand then doom
Hugo is the definitive Doom 64 fanboy. Last year's Quakecon had the Doom 64 zombiemen as the reference for the concept art for god sakes. He will make it a main line title via Eternal.
>he cares about the contrived reputation of fanbases on a romanian underwater knitting forum
>he doesn’t just post about the characters he wants
Your loss I guess
Steve will probably be a mii outfit at best
This. Roster threads were always shit, but at least you could say "hey it would be cool if..." without people jumping down your throat about it.
Same with Doomguy
based
*Master Chief
This, fuck off touhouniggers
If any id character is getting mii'd it's Commander Keen.
Again same fanbase as smash, therefore more vocal. Doom fans while a lot larger than banjo, generally aren't playing or paying attention to E rated nintendo games. Same with Persona, no one thought joker would make it especially since the fanbase is a different fanbase than smash, granted persona fanbase is probably smaller than banjo.
It pretty much went from unofficial Doom 3 to the official Doom 3 while "Doom 3" is the weird spin-off game. Lead director Hugo Martin is also a huge Doom 64 fan, which is how he first got into Doom. Doom 2016 obviously takes place after the ending of 64, despite what zoomer secondaries think.
>shit taste
user, Classic DOOM is a cult there along with Mechwarrior 3 and ORIGIN Systems games, we got Final Fantasy THANKS to Ultima IV.
DWANGO was Hit in Japan thanks to DOOM and other stuff since it enabled a better way of playing Multiplayer games there over the internet, SEGA tried it earlier with the Mega Drive Online stuff, but Dwango for PC was the landmark.
Shitting on people for wanting a certain character is something I really don't get. It's like people take personal offense for daring to want a character you don't want. It's really fucking childish.
...unless you want fucking Waluigi. Then you kind of deserve to get shit on.
Ryu Hayabusa is fifth
Yeah, the part where he did the "guh-huh" sound really shows he didn't give a fuck about the character.
I wanna say "Too violent" but clearly we're past the threshold where that sorta thing is irrelevant so instead I'll say maybe he is in and they're waiting for a moment to says so like Joker in TGS.
He always looks like that. Dude always looks tired from overworking.
I can feel it in my bones anons, thanks to fan demand Doomguy likely got a passing mention in one meeting of suits when discussing potential collaborations for Smash Bros. DLC!
Let Doomguy kill Ridley.
If any bethesda character is getting mii'd it's Skyrimguy
In fighter pass two
>Patternfags are actually this intelligent
Based. Each DLC reveal has been better than the last so I'd believe it at this point.
>color theory was actually real and plant took green, leaving only orange
Who knew?
There are 2 realistic scenarios.
Ryu Hayabusa being announced at the Game Awards, and THEN Doom Slayer to kick off the second one. Or Doom Slayer alone gets announced, and then Ryu to kick off the second one.
I do not honest to god see anyone aside from those 2 getting announced.
Why Ryu Hayabusa
Ryu and Doomguy were my top ballot picks
Transfolk are where the worse vidya opinions are coming from nowadays and people want you to them seriously solely because they’re trans... plus they’re insanely easy to troll
Because he’s cool as fuck
Yup, it's him
He's been Speculated about, a lot. Ninja Gaiden is the only series that had quite a legacy and is known for being one of the biggest and hardest NES games ever. Plus Tecmo has some involvement with the development of Smash Ultimate.
>Doomguy or Crash
Considering Crash has been blowing thru these shitty patterns and has more neutral region popularity, I wouldn't be surprised if hes last. another one is
>3 humanoids
Joker, Hero, Terry
>3 non humans
Plant, Banjo, Crash
But why of all characters does he strike you as definitely one of the next 2 fighters? To me it looks like it could be fucking anybody regardless of people talking up Ninja Gaiden lately.
The smash roster is pretty good as it is, but I'm holding on getting a Switch and Smash until all the DLC comes out.
Doomguy being in would immediately make me buy both in a heartbeat, because how the fuck are you allowing such a violent character in? How do you justify a silent protagonist that is a non-character?
The guy has been dismembering former humans with chainsaws and high-caliber weapons since forever. Columbine has a history with Doom. Doom 4 cranks up the gratuitous violence to 11, now basically being Mortal Kombat - the FPS.
No other character in Smash has the violent background Doom has.
Honestly after seeing Terry and Hero, I have a feeling most of the DLC picks will be based on Iconic franchises. So yeah. Doomguy, Ryu Hayabusa, Crash, and Leon are definite possibilities.
too violent
Sakurai uses something he calls "imagination" to make characters realizable fighters.
>Long history with Nintendo
On par with everyone else AND has bigger gaps than any other console manufacturer (and bigger than ur mum vagine).
How would you like to see him fight? Here's a moveset I came up with a while ago that I think would be really cool. I can imagine an ammo system for him, like he has 20 shotgun shells, 5 rockets, 100 chaingun bullets, and 200 plasma cells.
>Down B-Weapon Wheel
can switch between Shotgun, Super Shotgun, Chaingun, Rocket Launcher, and Plasma gun. shotgun does decent damage anywhere on the map within a straight line of sight from Domguy, super shotgun does a shit ton if damage and knockback up close but shit damage from far away, chaingun burns through ammo really fast but the chip damage is great, the plasma gun could function like Fox's blaster, and the rocket launcher hits with all the damage and knockback of a bob-omb.
>B-Shoot gun
he shoots the gun you choose with down b
>Side B-Glory Kill
basically C. Falcon's side b, but you tilt up, down, forward, or backward to do a kick/punch combo in that direction.
>Up B-Meat Hook
You do up b ot get it out, and you can tilt the stick to aim it anywhere. It should take a bit to get to the other guy, but it locks him where he is and pulls Doomguy towards him, and you can follow that up with any attack.
Final Snash-BFG
he teleports to where the camera is, and sees the stage from there. They could out up the old 1993 HUD for this, and he aims a shot from the BFG like bowser's punch. Ill do a part 2 in a bit
ok part 2
You could hold down the A button to constantly rev the chainsaw. It should also be his forward tilt and his dash attack, but they don't stop his movement. He's the only character who's dash attack wouldn't stop his movement.
All directional smashes are chainsaw swipes.
I don't know about the ariels
The victory screen could be the old doom screenwipe to the victory screen with Intermission from Doom 2 playing.
Oh, Doomguy has the moveset alright. You can do anything with the character, gameplay wise.
I guess the description for the character can be "He's a cool soldier that defends the earth from demons. Has a pet rabbit, Daisy, to keep him company in times of turmoil. Eh kills deamnos and doesnt afraid of anything."
Joker? Mischievous thief. Snake? Professional killer with a moral compass, tries stealth instead of murder. Bayonetta? The more questionable of all, but her sin is nudity and sex, not reveling in blood.
Doomguy? He protects the earth. How? He eviscerates his enemies with violent abandon. He is rage incarnate... and why?
They fucked with Daisy.
Doriyah
I think it would make more sense to have side b be the meat hook and instead have up b be a rocket jump.
And I think it would be cool to have him use his firearms in his normals (and being affected by the weapon wheel) and have some normals be inspred by glory kill animations. Also an ammo system cause why not.
>They fucked with Daisy.
Canonically he doesn't know this until he's been through literal Hell at least once and then gets sent to Earth for being a nuisance.
The man just hates demons.
You forgot
>Goes to hell and stays there to give demons shit for eternity
oh shit my dude ok, that's a good idea
All of the third parties have classic designs as default besides Hero
DOOM twitter account is really active and responding to people
>rosterfags in charge of seeing the future
It's not gonna be either of those two, just like how every fighter before btfo'd your delusions
OH, yeah, that's after Episode 3. Then you have Episode 4, Doom 2, and arguably TNT and Plutonia. So basically, the entire classic series.
Or they could go with Doom 4's Doomslayer, which is even worse.
Doom 3's Doomguy has a face, and is different in both, so the more level-headed Doomguy doesn't cut it as representative.
My dick hurts.
Okay then tell us smart guy. Who do you think is next?
then what’s up with all mainline doom games getting ports?
This it’s annoying and u retards just talk about the same few ones over and over to
YES. literally the best franchise ever
That's later user
>green or orange
>green
It's fucking Chris Redfield.
That means literally nothin u sperg
And it's canon too.
>he chose the path of perpetual torment. In his ravenous hatred he found no peace; and with boiling blood he scoured the Umbral Plains seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him
They fucked with his dimension, he'll fuck with theirs.
>Earthworm Jim
Why don't you use that $20.01 to buy some good games
i had nostalgia for 3d, so i got the bundle, sue me.
One of the things with Doom is that, no matter which device you have, someone will either port or do an approximation of Doom in it. Doom 4 is just ZeniMax putting their game in platforms to maximize profit instead of legitimately continuing the id Tech philosophy. Nothing actually related with popularity, or at least not like before.
On another note, we're never getting id Tech 5 and 6 open sourced, are we?
Banjoke was through Nintendo of America
U retard
Cope doomfag
He might be revealed at The Game Awards to close Doom's 25th anniversary since the stream is on the 12th and Doom 1993 came out on December 10th
LITERALLY the same (doom)guy
>There are 5-10+ more slots left
>All of them are 3rd party and not yet unrepresented
>Yea Forums honestly thinks Doom won't be in any of them and instead we're getting shit like Geno.
If they add him, his stage would be Hell, and I really doubt Nintendo would like to add a stage with that name in Smash
Tell me again why he isn't in at this point
>Long history with Nintendo
>Much needs VN representation
>Free advertising for future titles
>Port of Ace Attorney Trilogy very recently
>New game and second trilogy rerelease coming soon hopefully
>You can play every mainline Ace Attorney game on 3DS
>Nintendo has talked to Capcom about Smash
>Sakurai is friends with Takumi and has spoken about Ace Attorney in a column
>Ace Attorney Twitter account has gone completely silent about Smash
If Doom Eternal ended up winning GOTY and also Doomguy was revealed for SMASH that would be one of the biggest days in Doom's history.
You do know "Mars" or "UAC" is an option. Right? Also "Hell in a Shell" and Captain Falcon's jacket. And Rodin.
doom guy purely because ive lost control of my life and want more doomkeen shota smutt
Stage could be E1M1, or on Mars, or a UAC base.
I want his stage to be the Tower of Babel. You ride a big platform to the top where the Cyberdemon is waiting.
Make a stage based off 1993 assets with exploding barrels, nukage, secret doors and teleporters. The setting being the Phobos base from Knee Deep in the Dead. Call it smash.wad
I love the character but I just don't give a shit about him in fighting games. It's like reading Sherlock Holmes for the fighting scenes, oh wait, they made movies like that for contemporary audiences.
Well, there's Norfair that looks a bit hellish, and Dracula's Castle.
They could take some architecture guidelines from Episode 4 or Doom 2, without the wailing souls. I don't think Hell from Doom 3 or 4 looks iconic; more like generic. Taking the classic approach can make it look like some eerie castle.
>How do you justify a silent protagonist that is a non-character?
Well that's pretty easy given that Smash has a few silent protagonists already. Doomguy has a decent amount of character even if it's just "I'm fucking pissed and like killing demons"
I don't know. What i do know however is that the chances of another western fighter being small as fuck
The silent part isn't the issue. If the character is silent, then you need to go off the story or properties of the character to drive him or his interactions.
Now describe Doomguy or Doomslayer. See if he fits with anyone in the roster.
Well guess what? Almost every important Japanese character that's part of memorable IPs is on there. Sakurai has to go for Western picks otherwise we'll end up with shit like Reimu and Saber. Do you want that?
What, you mean like taunts, idle animations, and victory poses? Because there's no character interaction in Smash Bros. It's not hard to get an ultra machismo power fantasy character to act that way without the blood and gore. You can even have some of his goofy animations like the face in the HUD or his fist bump with the action figures he finds.
Imagine Doomguy and then a Diablo reveal
While I have nothing against Pheonixchads, my VN lawcourt vote goes to Makoto Naegi/Hajime/Hinata/Nagito Komaeda. It's a more out-there pick, in the vein of Joker and Terry, and Sakurai is apparently a fan. Not to mention the music is banging.
*ahem*
>implying the point of rosterfag threads isn't flame wars
Based.
Frankly Reimu isn't that bad. I'd prefer Quote as the indie rep but I understand Touhou's pretty big. Among the important missing Japanese IPs we have Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden, Resident Evil, (sort of) Monster Hunter, Soul Calibur, Tekken, and Dark Souls. So it's not like we don't have a lot of well deserved competition.
>WHY CANT I BUY THIS DLC FOR A SHIT GAME THAT HASNT BEEN GOOD SINCE SSBM??
why do nintendies care about characters from games they dont play?
This
>Monster Hunter
>Tekken
Already represented. Boss and Mii fighter plus a Pac-Man taunt
Look, I'll be frank with you. I want Doomguy in, I know he has a myriad of options to make him a character fit for Smash in any regard. All this shit I'm saying? That's the shit the ESRB and CERO will ask. That's what Marketing will ask.
What happens when anyone in there gets really angry? A rain of bullets (reflected in game like just that, lines going through), some pew pew plasma, a serious Shotokan Karate beatdown, eating the enemy whole, or explosions.
Doomguy goes overboard every time, except in Doom 3, where he goes about like that only with Berserk on.
If they keep the lore to a minimum, it could work. Smash Ultimate likes to enrich every side of a character, so that might not fly with some people in the higher-ups. Almost everything is M in Doom.
Actually they took out the Mii fighter stuff due to back alley jewishness.
doesn't that also apply to Bayonetta?
A majority of Doomguy's guns are based on Bio Weapons. Plus it's not like his guns can't work similar to Joker's.
I NEED SOME DOOM MUSIC! ANYONE GOT ANY LINKS TO A GOOD SAMPLING OR REMIX ALBUM? A COUNTRY SONG ABOUT LOVING MY TRUCK, LOVING MY GUN, LOVING MY RABBIT, AND LOVING DOOM IS ALSO ACCEPTABLE.
Well Bayonetta puts people in sexual torture devices and has them explode into blood and guts. His most realistic weapon that kind of has to be there is at least one form of the shotgun, which would probably be the standard scifi variant rather than the super shotgun. That doesn't need to have lines going through Mario's head with a crumple animation induced. The others can be either explosive or plasma based.
They could just use a modified quake champions model of the ss. It looks sci-fi enough already
>Bio Weapons
Only three are pew pew laser weapons. The majority of his guns are realistic ammunition.
Which was a surprise in 4. She was able to be diluted in many ways, starting by not showing her nudity when summoning Avavago and skipping the details.
This works for Doomguy if you scrape the last 80% of Doom anything. There rest isn't just minor details like "he once gutted a demon".
>"He would go on to be the only survivor after battling on Phobos, Deimos and through Hell, ultimately teleporting to Earth where he discovers that Earth has been invaded by demons. "
Past that, there's nothing to it but revenge and bloody murder. Which helps him in a way: if there's nothing else to say about him or the story, you can expand the lore with trivia. Practically the only way to get people to look away from the outright satanic and murderous themes and imagery they will most definitely won't mention.
Face it retards, it's Chris Redfield
>the literal face of Resident Evil
>constantly appears in crossover material
>was a focal point of the story in 2 despite not even appearing in it until a rerelease
>closely tied to Albert Wesker, the most famous villain in the series
>infinite moveset potential, has been in multiple fighting games, card games and flowed into different gameplay styles with no issue
>instantly recognizable
>most aesthetic design out of the original 4 MCs in their first appearances
>Jill has been shafted since Revelations (2012)
>outside of REmake 2 (which HAD to have him), Leon's last appearance was in RE6 (2012)
>Claire last appeared in REv2 (ignoring REmake 2 again), which was in 2015
>Chris also has the most appearances on Nintendo, with 11 (ELEVEN) in game appearances, whereas
>Leon only has 6 (SIX)
>Jill only has 8 (EIGHT)
>Claire has only 4 (FOUR)
This also flies with colour theory fags, as Chris' colour is Green.
In addition, here's a list of all the games I'm talking about in regards to my appearances list
>Resident Evil (2002)
Chris, Jill
>Resident Evil 2
Leon, Claire, Chris (2)
>Resident Evil 3
Jill (2)
>Resident Evil 4
Leon (2)
>Resident Evil 5
Chris (3), Jill (3)
>Resident Evil 6
Chris (4), Leon (3)
>Resident Evil CODE:Veronica X
Chris (5), Claire (2)
>Resident Evil Gaiden
Leon (4)
>Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles
Chris (6), Jill (4)
>Resident Evil Darkside Chronicles
Chris (7), Claire (3), Leon (5)
>Resident Evil Revelations
Chris (8), Jill (5)
>Resident Evil Revelations 2
Claire (4)
>Resident Evil The Mercenaries 3D
Chris (9), Jill (6)
>Resident Evil Deadly Silence
Chris (10), Jill (7)
>Project X-Zone
Chris (11), Jill (8), Leon (6)
And? His Super Shotgun is less realistic looking than Joker's and the fucking thing doubles as grappling hook. Why is this an issue.
>Pistol
>Plasma rifle along with its alt fire capabilities
>Shotgun has both an energy blast and an explosive
>Assault Rifle has micro missile
>Rocket Launcher
>Gauss Cannon
>BFG
We've got stuff to work with here.
>the literal face of Resident Evil
LOL
That's Jill or Leon
boring moveset
I haven't played the new game so I have no idea what you two are on about.
This thing in the newest game.
doomwiki.org
>doomwiki.org
Neat, I don't like the pointy thing underneath but whatever. I'm going to play through the new one after I finish Doom 2, and then Doom 64. Might play some Plutonia in between for some variety.
youtube.com
Here's a video showing all the weapons from 4. He switches the alt fire options around 2:45.
He is.
>Was used as a major part of the plot in RE2
>kept mysterious in RE3
>his return is given the most manly track in all of CV, and his entrance to the game is him scaling a mountain to go save his sister, and he shows no fear when he loses his bag of weapons
>his route in original RE1 is canonical to CV, as him making fun of Wesker is Wesker's entire motivation for hating him
>ALL the RE5 promo material focused on him, including a bunch of live action trailers
>was the first MC to appear in three mainline games in a row (5-6-7)
>first MC to get their own spin-off manga, and appeared in the spin-off twoshot
>all the important events in the series end up leading back to him
>in a rerelease of RE2, he was added in with a completely unique character model with all new animations and completely different way of carrying himself compared to Leon (such as no recoil from using the shotgun)
>the original script for Revelations once again had him be at the center of a mystery because he's the character people actually care about
>only human character kept around for MvCI
>took over Claire's second game
>killed the final boss of the franchise
You're delusional.
>weapon focused, probably will have a weapon switching and limited ammo mechanic
>weapons would probably be handgun, shotgun, magnum and flamethrower
>has daggers/combat knives, 3 different kinds of grenades, tasers, F.Aid Spray, boulder punching
>Final Smash is the Rocket Launcher with 4 rounds
I hope Doomo, Geno, and Crash get in Smash
Only cool with this if it's 5 Chris.
Ever play MvC3? Chris is fun as fuck in that game. Him & Nemesis shit on Jill (both her Marvel 2 & Marvel 3 versions) in terms of having cool and interesting movesets.
>bara Chris
Pleeeeeease
Knowing Sakurai though, it'll probably be his original RE1 design with a few quirks. I'd love huge ass Chris running around in Smash throwing out 30% punches
Sorry, but this moveset isn't so different from Snake's. It would need more creativity. PXZ tried to do some nice stuff with him and Jill, but he's humanly crazy, not outright CUHRAZEE. That's why Snake's there.
Crash would be unique, Ryu would be a legit ninja and not the Greninja bull, Doomguy does what Chris does better, and then some more crazy.
>this moveset isn't so different from Snake's
Snake has no guns, let alone 4+
Snake doesn't have melee weapons. Chris has daggers, a combat knife and taser.
Snake's hand to hand combat is CQC. Chris just fucking haymakers everything.
Chris would be an opportunity to use a limited ammo mechanic and implement survival horror thinking and strategy into a fighting game.
Or they copy his MvC3 moveset, which is still fun.
youtube.com
If the choice is between something as uninspired as Crash, and retrodden ground like Chris, I'll still have to lean on Chris. Resi is certainly more unique, and more relevant to nintendo.
Piranha Plant is green
>Chris would be an opportunity to use a limited ammo mechanic and implement survival horror thinking and strategy into a fighting game.
This and balancing a mainly ranged combatant would be good ideas. Your MvC3 example is good for traditional fighting games, though, and translates poorly, or otherwise looks uninspired in Smash.
what if Rabbids got in smash instead of rayman
What if this dude got in over either of them?
>nintendo direct
>seemingly ends and the screen fades to black
>then pic related fades in
>text then types out "Chris Redfield..."
>Chris is scaling the side of Rockfort Island
>youtube.com
>suddenly, something falls out of his backpocket
>letting one arm go he leans back and grips onto a letter with the Smash Bros logo on it
>close up on his face as he smirks
CHRIS REDFIELD
Enters The World of Smash Ultimate
>scene cuts to Chris' gameplay, but he begins to get outnumbered
>pulls out his radio and says "I NEED BACKUP"
>a grappling hook is heard
>joining him is Leon, Barry and RE1 Wesker
>Wesker says "Sorry, I'm not used to escorting men."
Available February 2020
Why would Bethesda put him in instead of Dovakhin?
A) Doom Eternal is Zenimax's flagship title for the holiday season this year.
B) Bethesda is working on Elder Scrolls 6, they don't give a shit about Skyrim anymore beyond quick ports for extra cash.
Post music tracks you want.
E1M1: youtu.be
Suspense: youtu.be
Kitchen Ace (and Taking Names): youtu.be
Sign of Evil: youtu.be
Rip and Tear: youtu.be
Mastermind: youtu.be
At Doom's Gate 2016: youtu.be
>The trailer is a continuation of the Riddley Tralier
>We see Samus in the Ground
>Suddenly everyone see the visor of the helmed
>they all think is Doomguy
>the Finish the Figth Theme from Halo 3 plays
> is MC
You fucking wish.
every Doom game was just ported to Switch
Doom is getting a new game that will be on Switch around the time the last character will be revealed
Dovahkiin is a fully customizable character and only a fraction of players used the default Nord with swords so it's difficult to design a character with that in mind
and Dovahkiin only reps one game in an entire series of fully customizable protagonists with varying personalities and abilities
He also used Bayonetta's design from her second game as her default and the Dragon Quest 11 protagonist as the default for Hero. While Sakurai certainly likes using classic designs it isn't a guaranteed choice.
yeah "I WISH"
Doom Eternal design as default, and Doom 1 doomguy as an alt.
it's going to be monokuma
but i'd be so fucking hyped hajime
fucking kill yourselves nintendo söy faggots, why the fuck you keep jerkin over "who gets in" for the hundreth of time? is mash the only fucking game you idiots play? jesus christ the underage faggotry is strong with you guys.
Then do a hero situation
pc has them all too.
>b-but 64
works for me ;^)
This is what I expect. Especially if he's the last character in the Fighters Pass as he would be revealed just in time to promote Doom Eternal.
Stop saying we need _____ representation. Nobody cares about that, especially not Sakurai. You representation fags have never won anything ever.
You cried for more spear representation, and got anime swordsmen.
You cried for more retro representation, and got Joker.
You can't win, and you never win.
Its fine that you want Doomguy, but I can think of someone far more iconic then him that Bethesda has, and while Joker represents all of Persona, he will represent all of a long running franchise as well. Its also been confirmed in the recent interview that Sakurai is given a list straight from Nintendo, and Sakurai has to choose characters from that list. How well does Nintendo of Japan know and recognize Doomguy?
I still don't think Doomguy is the last character in the Fighters Pass. I think he's got a chance to appear afterwards, but not before.
>dee is a literal bird
god tier meme
>Tell me again why he isn't in at this point
It's simple
He's not Japan popular
Fucking this. Not only was he bored, he talked like he had never fucking played the series at all.
>Grunty
>INSTANTLY SPOIL THE GAME ENDING WHAT THE FUCK
>Mumbo Jumbo
>"I DUNNO HE LOST HIS TOKENS LUL"
>Bottles
>Is the teacher of moves throughout Banjo Kazooie
>Huge part of the game
>"LOL HE DIES AT THE START OF THREEIE FUCK SPOILERS LUL"
>Tootie
>The entire fucking plot of the first game is about trying to save her
>Could have stated anything about this
>"GUYS SHE IS IN THE GAME OVER SCREEN HAHA"
>Random fucking dragonfly enemies from the first game
>Nearly completely irrelevant in the first game
>"GUYS I PUT THESE IN FROM THE FIRST GAME THEY UH......D-DRAGONFLIES RIGHT?"
How can anyone think I could be projecting here? Did they not watch the same video? Sakurai literally just spoils a bunch of shit, then calls everyone a poor soul and doesn't say shit about who they are.
it's the most relevant vidya tho
Is goblin Slayer good?
Doom is more iconic then Skyrim.
Doomguy represents the Doom series.
Dovahkin is more iconic then Doomguy.
Dovahkin would represent all of Elder Scrolls series like how Joker represented all of Persona.
The Elder Scrolls are more iconic then the Doom series.
So either way, Dovahkin would be chosen instead.
>Dovahkin is more iconic then Doomguy.
shit b8
>Implying we are getting anything other than anime trash as DLC, with the occasional platformer mascot thrown in to placate people tired of generic 'spiky hair sword guy, probably has a down b counter'.
This whole fighter pass and not a single ranged specialist.
Could be UAC facility, BFG Chamber, Grave of Titans, Icon (just leave out sin), E1M1 etc
Neither was Ridley or Dark Samus.
He is
Oh and before you say "Nintendo IP". Literally fucking WHY would Sakurai give Metroid more love if Japan fucking hates the series? No one in Japan asked for Dark Samus.
Because it's Nintendo IP and costs them $0 whilst also not having to worry about marketing, so they can take more risks?
Also keep in mind that Nintendo did not choose the base roster, they chose the DLC.
Smash always had spoilers d00d
I agree Doom has more history.
Steve covers the "popular gen z western character" much better than Dovahkin. Also doubles as an indie rep
But what happened to Japan first? There was hardly any demand for Ridley there and just about none at all for Dark Samus. If Nintendo focuses primarily on what the Japanese want, why bother with a series that they hate?
I would say no, but as a part of my childhood, I'm down for this.
>green or orange
he's fucking in
Except Sakurai clearly didn't understand what each character's purpose in the original game was. Mumbo's transformations? No. Bottle's lessons? No. Tooty's kidnapping? No. Grunty's plot to become pretty? No.
>Generic monster slayer marine
>Dragon slaying barbarian most known for FUS ROH DAH
No shit Dovahkin is more iconic are you kidding me?
Too bad sales don't matter when it comes to Smash. I cannot believe we are still having this conversation, fucking TWO GAMES Banjo Kazooie is in for god's sake! Hell Joker is in, and he was only in one game, and it wasn't even on a Nintendo device, and he got in. Doesn't you understand anything? The days of Smash 4 style speculation is over. Its no longer about sales, shill picks, or first party characters. Its about the most iconic, long lasting, third party characters around, and in that order of importance.
Yeah probably not, Banjo's likely just a forgettable mascot platformer to him.
He’s next
Sorry but no
>Too bad sales don't matter when it comes to Smash
Lol so Wii Fit Trainer, Duck Hunt Duo, Mr Game and Watch etc got in because of their amazing moveset potential?
Hayabusa would be kino
>Its no longer about sales, shill picks, or first party characters.
It was never about sales, it was about popularity, which sales is a good indicator of. You know what else is a good indicator? The official poll, which Banjo Kazooie absolutely destroyed.
Don't get your hopes up user. Alot of things are lining up for him, but just be realistically optimistic
Why bother with Ice Climbers? Why bother with Pit? Because cult classic characters have value in a roster. Because it adds variety. Because it's an easy way to make certain hardcore groups in your fanbase happy.
>>"LOL HE DIES AT THE START OF THREEIE FUCK SPOILERS LUL"
Looks like you're the one who never played the game. For one, he's already dead before the game starts. Secondly, it's Tooie, there is no Threeie. Thirdly, most of your list is actually pretty accurate.
Why not? There are still plenty of unoccupied spots left.
If Doom Slayer doesn't get in in the end of Fighter Pass, then we'll try on Season 2, or even 3.
some retards thinks he'll be in none of them.
Let them, the world doesn't revolve around them and their "lock" characters.
For one, yep that's true, for two yeah sorry for the typo I fucked up, and for three, thank you, it just felt weird that he didn't really talk about the games at all. I can imagine him like this with the Mario series, and it just makes me laugh at people who would defend it:
>"This is the Mario stage"
>"That's Bowser in the background, he shows up in every castle in the first Mario game"
>Assistant: "Uh sir, that's a fake, you fight the real one at the last level"
>Sakurai: "Sorry, I mean to say, you fight Bowser at the end of the game for some reason, you fight some strange blue relative of his other times"
>"And this is Peach, dunno why she dresses this way, she must like pink a lot"
>"And this is Luigi, I think he is Mario's cousin?"
>"And this is Toad, I don't think he was in the first Mario game at all"
>"And this is Yoshi, you encounter him at the end of every castle, and he tells you that Toad is in a different castle"
>"Anyways that's the Mario stage, based on the franchise that I have definitely played, see ya"
>Fuck Kuntio-kunt
i want my boi ragna
Doomguy will never be in
Based
Just like Ridley, King K. Rool, Banjo Kazooie, and almost every other "never ever", right?
Shut the fuck up m8.
Because he isn't a lock either retards, people thought Spring Man and Rex were locks and looks where they are now.
FUCK YOU
what if he's only saying this to ensure that doomguy does get in
>HE'S NOT GONNA BE IN SMASH! HE ISN'T! HE ISN'T! ISN'T!
2 more fighters passes. 10 more slots. 10 more 3rd party reps. Cope and prepare for the inevitable.
But he's my most wanted
It has been decided.
>tell me why he isnt in
it'll be nice if he is but its not worth overhyping him, smash has banjo now so everyone else is icing on the cake.
What would be some Doom spirits battles?
>Warner Bros
>Dream Works
Let me guess
Popeye and Shrek
Scribblenauts and Shrek
Enemies from the games, either the sprites or the 2016 ones. At least the ones that doesn't look gory.
Yeah but what would the match ups? Like giant Bowser with a submarine gun for Cyberdemon or Wario as a pinky.
Plus the weapons in 2016 and Eternal look less realistic so he can use those to his advantage.
Yeah I think it's safe to say Doomguy is a realizable fighter.
>Black Mario, loves Neutral Special: Imp
>Pink Giant Metal Luigi, loves Neutral Special: Baron of Hell
>Red King K. Rool, with a Ray Gun: Mancubus
>Giant White Samus, with a Steel Diver: Revenant
>Giant Metal Snake, Stamina Battle, loves Side Special: Cyberdemon (alternatively, giant metal Ganondorf with Bob-Ombs spawning like hell)
>Giant Metal Ivysaur, with three smaller metal Ivysaurs, all equipped with Ray Guns: Spider Mastermind
I wamt Doomguy in, but you'd have to be exceptional to think Doom64 isn't being ported to other systems too
Quote would be cool but has anyone made a moveset that's more unique than just "jetpack Mega Man"?
Also racking my brain trying to think of what EA would have to offer
Fuck EA.
Ultima Avatar would be their most storied character.
Correct.
>Piranah Plant is already green
>Orange is left
>So that must mean...
yeah I'm thinking Crash is in.
Different skins can have different animations. Look at hoodie mac and regular little mac scene.
Next fighter's pass. This one's for Doom Slayer.
Not gonna happen faggots.
why?
it's a great concept but poorly executed IMO, the light novel and manga are good but the anime sucks ass
There aren't many IPs left to represent left dude. Doomguy one way or another is getting in.
People have been wanting Doomguy way longer and Doomguy is way more memorable
>doom eternal
>goty
i wish. probably some sony 3rd person walking cinematic will win. aka death stranding. (im still hype for it tho, based kojima)
>no bfg
its like you hate testosterone
If Doomguy gets in you can damn well expect BFG Division to get an orchestral remix.
What if you're jinxing it by acknowledging that?
Snoytendofags and smashfags only want to play as testosterone deficient (male) characters.