Loot boxes should not be sold to children and should instead be earned as rewards for game-play, the MPs said

Megapixels should not get a say in political matters

Inb4 liberTARDians come in bitching like little yappy dogs again

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>kids should be allowed to take hormones and cut off their dicks
>but loot boxes are too much, children shouldnt be allowed to do that

>oh daddy government please step on me yes yes oh my god yes it's for the childrenn mmmMMM!!! YES PLEASE TAKE AWAY ALL MY RIGHTS DADDY

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>lolbertarians

Ban children from games period.
22 or older.

Just make videogames illegal for anyone under the age of 18.

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>HEY ABOUT THAT I LIVE IN SOME PROVINCE OR WHATEVER THAT ACTUALLY CARES ABOUT THE PRECINCT THAT DOES THAT

right

Ban lootboxes/gatcha shit in general. Fuck off with your gambling addiction.

Which of your rights would be violated by banning lootboxes exactly?

How dare you use my wife to shitpost

It actually fluences right up an arab's ass so no.

>Steven universe fag is retarded
Like fucking clockwork, I miss when ponyfags were the biggest cancer we had to deal with.

>hurr durr gobernment plz help

Commies will ruin vidya with this shit

It wasn't commies that got us into microtransaction lootbox games-as-a-service hell.

how are you angry at the government suggesting you should get lootboxes for free

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What the fuck is the steven universe? Do they think they earn everything there by baking a cake?

>oh god they do

If lootboxes are earned as rewards instead, and cannot be bought with real world money, then I don't see that happening.

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if that's my only obstacle then I am pirating literally everything.
The fuck are you going to do? God I love shopping mall media. "this is a blank screen dude super serious"

>Poker
>gambling
Poker is a legit game, if you lose big at it it's only because you don't know how to play it

the right to throw away all of my money on videogames if i want.

If you pirate your games there's no lootbox gambling possible, ergo it does have a point.
However since you're against it that means you must be underage and don't belong on here.

Remember how fun it was when we were kids?
Games are still fun, but not even as close as to when we were kids. Why deprive them of those memories? Yes they're annoying, yes they're voices are shrill. But in the long run even getting griefed if enjoyable.
It's all about the memories
Wc3 FT custom game battle.net

the right to sell lootboxes if i ever create a video game.

>NOOOO STOP MAKING ME PLAY VIDEO GAMES
>I JUST WANT TO USE 300 DOLLARS ON LOOTBOXES AND THEN PLAY 1 MATCH TO SHOW OFF MY SHINY NEW HATS

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It's a wagering-based game. Whether it's skill-based or not, it's gambling regardless of how you look on it.

I've always hated the argument about parents' credit cards, as if the parents don't look at their charges to see if anything odd was snuck in, or that parents have no way of stopping their kids from getting their credit card #.

I think this is a great idea. Players under 18 are given time rewarded boxes and players over 18 can buy them. The law should probably include something so they don't just make the kids grind for 500 hours for a box but instead like, if a loot box for adults costs 10 dollars then it takes 5 hours of grind to unlock it for for underageds.

Ban children from playing online games.

They're not wrong and any loot box regulations that come from this shit is fully the responsibility of the likes of EA and Activision etc.

So fuck them no sympathy given

Wen need to ban children from gaming so they will stop supporting cancerous monetization practices.

Kids don't get to play for 5 hours a lot of the time now, but everybody would just make an "underage account" so they didn't have to pay.

Of course the number could be adjusted. I just gamed a shit ton as a kid since I had all the time in the world.
People posing as kids would be an unfortunate side effect but it's one I'm willing to live with.

>The video games industry has always, and will continue to, put the welfare of players at the heart of what we do.
lol

>The MPs also called for both social media platforms and game-makers to establish effective age-verification tools.
>Currently both rely on a honesty system and, as a result, there are large numbers of under-age users on social media and playing games.
Sounds like they're going to want to collect more personal information so you can play games. Don't really think that's a good idea. Just stop fucking playing games that have lootboxes in them.

You think the solution to stop kids lying about their age to play games with lootboxes is for yourself to stop playing games with lootboxes?

reminder that the justice system isn’t about who is right but who has the most money

I'm not really focused on the aspect of kids opening them being the problem, they're just inherently a problem. Would rather see more people popularize games without them than to have the government collect more information.

You think the government doesn't already know what fucking age your kid is?

No, retard, but you're still giving them power for more data collection and control by allowing this.

Can someone explain how these children are able to buy lootboxes? How do you sell to people who don't have any fucking money? If the parents are buying the fucking loot boxes, then they are the problem.

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then you're retarded and have too much time and money on your hands. Go do something with yourself.

>mom can I borrow your card to buy this lootbox, its only $5!
>the console saves card details
>kids being kids spend all of the money

It's not the government that's going to collect the information (that they already have). It's going to be some sort of age verification tool, probably like the porn stuff in britain where you have to go to a store and buy a age verification card and they check your age at the counter then off you go to get your porn/lootboxes.

Kids get money for their birthdays or other holidays. And if they're asking their parents, they're probably just saying they want the money for "a video game" rather than "a lootbox".

so is chess, but it doesn't ask me to play for money most of the times.

>Giving your child access to your fucking credit card

Do they also let them juggle chainsaws and loaded guns? Hell, a loaded gun would probably be safer.

Libertarian here, Liberty is for Adults.

>Why do the military police have any say in our videogames?
If the industry can't sort their shit out, other outside foces will.
Lootboxes doesn't belong in any videogame that isn't free to play. Even in F2P games it's a trash mechanic that shouldn't be there.

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>porn stuff in britain
The deadline for that to come into effect has come and gone 4 times now.
Going into a store and confirming you're old enough to play a game with loot boxes is a massive false equivalent.

>lootbox enabler
No one cares about you opinion. Go suck Bobby Kotick & Co tiny peckers and see how much they care about you.

No it isn't. It's a perfectly viable way of confirming someone's age in a safe and anonymous way without having your data collected by big biz/gov.

user.
You cant expect parents to watch their kids when they do anything
You cant expect parents who are busy with shit to learn the dangers of every little thing.
Put yourself in the mind of someone older. "If I give my kid my card to make a one time purchase, why would I be worried that they could bankrupt me, after all its a one time purchase."
We here who are versed in technology can easily call it out as dumb, but most people dont read shit, they dont dig deep into anything.

kill the poor
kill the rich
kill the kids
kill the seniors

Nothing it's just retards conflating Rated E to mean exclusively for children. What happened to accountability especially for the parents? It's so easy to point the finger than to admit you're a terrible fucking parent. I suppose a prompt to set up parental controls when the game boots up could be good as well as more warnings to let parents know that games contain highly addictive predatory loot boxes aimed exclusively at 3 year olds as people like to say many of these games are for. Sports games have online modes which do not contain microtransactions, not to mention offline modes, these games get rated E because the base game is suitable for Everyone and you have to go out of your way to play the one mode where you can spend money. ESRB and most rating boards do not rate online interactions which nost of these lootboxes are a part of.

I see people bring up le Pokemon got rated 12 or T for it's casinos but the difference there is that it wasn't sequestered into an optional game mode, while the game corners were optional thet were a mandatory part of the plot as that's where the Rocket hideout was so the kids playing the game did have to essentially step in a virtual casino plus there's the whole animal on animal cartoon violence for money. I don't agree with this because I grew up playing Pokemon and I turned out fine but you can see the difference If you aren't a brainlet yet idiorts who watched yong or angry joe spout the same shit.

The ESRB/PEGI whatever else should be pressured into rating online interactions but realistically can they when said interactions are different for everyone?

>Give money to child as a gift
>Complain about what they spend it on

Why allow them to make their own purchase if you don't want to respect their freedom to choose? I don't get it.

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Microtransactions in general is stealing/false advertising as you're never getting what you paid for unless you grind several hours a day. They should be illegal. Then there's the gambling problem.

Because people, especially children, can be easily tricked.

Probably because they assume the shit they shouldn't be allowed to purchase will be denied.

No - but it's a bit more complicated than that-

No one is using in your face advertisements to promote juggling chainsaws and loaded guns, on the other hand the lootboxes are.
This is still on the parents for being pissweak - but most of the time little jimmy won't just ask for the lootbox but will also have a meltdown temper tantrum until mum caves if she says no.

1. Parents need to stop being pissweak and hit their kids again
2. Vidya game companies shouldn't be exploiting kids

>it's a let's shelter the kids episode starring all of the libtard Yea Forums trannies
Oh please

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It's not anonymous though.

Children need to be tricked in a harmless environment so that they can learn to not be so fucking gullible. It is a lesson that must be learned.

Yeah these people are pretty stupid. We should bring back child labour and also send them to war since it's easier to learn when you're younger, stop sheltering kids.

i don't really use the "think of the children" argument to talk about how shitty lootboxes are, but not allowing kids to gamble isn't really sheltering them and it's already in place for other forms of gambling.

Based UK killing FIFA

Yeah! Let's expose children to gambling addiction at an early age so they can grow up as not soi as possible.
They should be gambling, smoking, and drinking at 10 just like you did so they turn into alphas that know how bad they are early on after experiencing it all firsthand.
That way they can be awake at 4am with no job making fun of those cucks with beards and glasses

nice twitter tier deflection, ask me how I know you're a transtrender

I didn't say we should allow them to gamble, most incidents of kids spending mums money on shit online has been few and far between. Yes it's shit, yes I hate lootbox mechanics but you niggers are overblowing it I know most of you are referring to sports games but come on, children are too busy playing GTA 5 online, you know the game with an actual casino

But that already happens. Fuck that, just get rid of them. They may not be gambling, but they are shit.

Because people are too stupid to do what's good for them, they need someone better than them to guide them

yeah, it's sad that one of the most popular mainstream games is doing the worst with it. i'd just rather see it treated like gambling if they're going to try and force this shitty garbage into games anyway. not just to protect kids but to give the companies a nice backhand for being awful.

Yet you don't see most ecelebs making an outrage when Rockstar does it, REALLY makes you think init

Why are you all angry about lootboxes and the monetization of games? Games are not art and never will be, they are simply trashy entertainment for horny teenage boys that rake in money. This was their naturally progression, and you are all manchildren trying to hold on to your childhood because you don't want to stop playing with your toys and grow up. Get laid and let zoomers enjoy games like you enjoyed your pokemon and GTA smut when you were young.

>it's not art so gambling is ok
lol retard

Gambling is okay.

You know that's stealing, right? Any decent parent would beat the shit out of their child if they tried that.

You're not a gamer. You're a corporate shill. The fact that you're defending monetization makes me sick. If I had political power I'd dump you all in a landfill.

it is, but not when loopholes are being exploited so it's not considered gambling

If I gave my kid money I wouldn't want him running off to the casino and saying "put it all on red".

>you're not a gamer
And thank fucking god for that. Now stop being butthurt games are changing, there's no profit in outdated business models like "campaign" or "dlc". That shit is old and boring and not profitable.

So is this happening or not and when

Fifa deserves to die

>gambling irl
regulated
>gambling online
regulated
>gambling in video game
not regulated, because reasons

>not regulated, because reasons
well you see it's technically not gambling because you can't win real money and blah blah blah

Children don't have any rights.

You give away money hoping that RNG will give you virtual goods that you want. It's one person lottery, only difference is that there are consolation prizes.

Literal shill. Screencapped

Kek well enjoy killing the game industry. It's always boomers and government that ruins everything good.

It's literally corporate snakes like you that are killing it. You're a bitch, a punk. You're not even a man. EA is losing. So is Ubisoft. It was inevitable, punk. Accept it.

dilate

you get something back everytime you roll so it's not really gambling.

>you guys are virgins for playing games
>also this is for kids
>so lets be as aggressively profit seeking as possible!

You are human refuse.

Pay with cash. The clerk isn't going to write down your info any more than he does when you buy alcohol. Type in random code and play game.

Here's a fun thing that could happen.

Lootboxes are not banned, but kept as rewards from gameplay.
Devs makes gameplay only to funnel the need of lootboxes.
People get use to the mechanic of grinding the same thing over and over for random rewards.
It's so printed in their brain it's how they see the world (just like zoomer see the world when they're born with an iPhone in their hand).
Works become more and more like lootboxes where you're not working for a set amount of money, but random amounts and you're encouraged to grind more to increase your chance of winning.

People end up gambling as their profession, continuating the vicious circle of addiction via food, medication, hobbies (vidyas are still there), and now work.

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Skinner box games are very different fundamentally because there's a direct connect between time invested and items obtained, unless you have a large excess of in-game currency.

All you've done is invented the MMO.

I'm just applying it to society, not trying to invent shit.

I don't see how consolation prizes makes it not-gambling. Even lotteries have them, for people that guess only some numbers. They could easily just add some shitty rewards for all participants (like a sticker or something) and according to you definition it wouldn't be gambling anymore.

>I don't see how consolation prizes makes it not-gambling.
It's just how it's spelled out in the gambling laws but that just means the laws need updating to counter online gambling in video games, not that the game companies can include all the gambling they want.

Why don't you raise your kids better?

poker has a lot of luck involved, skill is important but will only get you so far. even if you're the best player in the world you can lose thousands and millions over a couple of years and it would just be variance.

The way the games are setup, kids are maxing out the credit cards in an afternoon. It also wasn't reasonable to expect parents to know that when they pick up some rated E sports game like FIFA that it includes a slot machine that takes real money. Of course, now they do and I'd expect to see parents self-regulating, so we'll see how many sites pop up that track which games have lootboxes for parents to avoid them.

>yes please government fuck me harder

enjoy the taste of boot do you?

That seems more like a parental thing.

the right to choose for myself if I freely enter a transaction

except this isn't a harmless environment but literally grooming entire generations.

You have no such right.

Sic semper tyrannis

Ban children from games.

>it's britbongs

fucking lmao they've gone into government shutdown at the moment literally nothing will happen

>government shutdown
Is living in perpetual ignorance a good feeling?

Finally. Using my parent's credit card for anything was unfathomable to me, but I just assumed I had oddly good parents.

"MP" Stands for "Minister of Parliament" you fucking hamburger

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>BAN CHILDREN

BASED

Lol these fuckers dont even know what Lootboxes are, any law they pass will be halfassed garbage with a million loopholes

It really isn't. True maturity is progressing past libertarianism and realizing that it simply isn't feasible.

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People need to shut the fuck up and let me scam kids, I fucking sell fifa coins and need that good shit to keep going. FUCK OFF KIDS DESERVED TO BE SCAMMED NIGGERS

>the government understands enough about vidya to even give a shit about this
What a weird timeline. I could understand if they just wanted to tax the shit out of it without realizing why its an issue, but them actually explaining it in a proper way is weird.

It's member.

Ah yes Reginald i posted my feel good words now it's time to take zero action to make things happen, oh look it's time for tea and watch my Twitter followers rise after my feel good words

Oh look, children are online!

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Much better.

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>gamers suddenly love government overreach for the sake of protecting muh children
When did we become literal soccer moms?

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That's the best part. It's technically not gambling because it has all the manipulation with none of the potential payout.

Oh no, poor daddy Kotick will only be able to afford four new islands this year if you don't pay the lootbox tithes. Someone please think of the billionaires!

We need to get these fucking low effort crates out of video games so these corporations start focusing more on content rather then just cashing in on retards who pay for skins or gacha

A broken clock is right twice a day user .it happens every few decades with the government tho

Normally I would agree that the government should mind it's own business, but fuck EA and fuck lootboxes.

When game companies proved completely unable to control themselves when when it comes to gambling mechanics. The entire point of that age rating system was to prevent government involvement and prove that the industry could govern themselves but when it comes to cold hard cash they couldn't do anything similar.

This. When parents rightly got upset that their children could legally buy games depicting anything from robbery to murder, the industry, rather than face government intervention created the ESRB to rate games accordingly and everyone was happy.
The same is happening now. People don't like that children are potentially being conditioned to gambling. Rather than the industry say "yeah you're right, we should put a lid on it", they've doubled-down on it to continue reaping the benefits.
I'm all for self-regulation, but they're taking the piss. At least we may see lootboxes in fewer games.

Just don't buy sports games, EA games or ActiBlizz games. There, that's 90% of all loot boxes eliminated.

end your life collectivist

>The entire point of that age rating system was to ... prove that the industry could govern themselves
>I'm all for self-regulation
Who the hell actually thinks like this? It's consumers that keep industries in check. Though I guess they can't be trusted to spend their money correctly so the government needs to prevent them from buying things. Imagine having so little hope in people that it's either corporations that control you or the government that controls you.

>hope in people will get a family the ten thousand dollars back that their children spent on loot boxes
Thank you, opinion discarded.

>All these butthurt statist replies

Ban gambling from games, people with brains say

A lot of things have to go wrong if your children are willing to take your credit card and spend thousands of dollars with it.

People who let their kids use their credit cards at all deserved to be culled from the gene pool.
Also, do you think any online shopping should be banned because children can spend thousands on dumb shit?

Underrated

We don't give a fuck about muh children, its just a tool to push kikeboxes out of vidya.

A lot of things like the microtransactions being designed from the ground up to be addictive?

All these morons accepting lootboxes is a great example of how dumb humanity as a whole is.

>Also, do you think any online shopping should be banned because children can spend thousands on dumb shit?
No, but I do think that children should not be allowed to do any sort of online money transfer themselves. They can either ask their parents to but them the thing or go to a store. Just seeing how much money you're handing over for something makes a huge difference.

kids should be banned from all games, if you're under 18 you don't get to play fun videogames

Casual christian gamers started playing.
In a non-clown world, seeing children spend a fortune on dumb shit would be approved of since it means that family is now fucked and they don’t breed again.

But because Jesus freaks started getting into Iphone games, and spent a fortune on lootboxes by themselves, they have to blame children to deal with how salty they are, instead of accepting they are retards that actually spent money on bytes and remove themselves from society (preferably suicide since then they will realize God doesn’t exist).

Actually based, if you disagree you are corporate bootlicker and dick sucker

Spending your parents money should be a decision you fear and put extra thought into. Being able to put down another $20 into in-game currency without even thinking to ask your parents first is completely insane to me.

sounds like valve games

People don't do that and they shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.

>so little hope in people
Oh fuck off. You post here so you should know better. I've spoken with people who's job in public health is to address gambling issues and had no idea that shit like it exists in games like Fifa - and its their job.

>ban online shopping
This is what we call a "false equivalent". Since:
1. Online shopping isn't the same as a lootbox whether you consider the latter gambling or not
2. Most people know nothing about technology and will easily leave their card details linked to an account because they don't know any better
3. Amazon and other online retailers will refund almost anything for any reason whatsoever
Publishers are aware of the above and will happily exploit it. How many people would go through the trouble of getting their money back if its only $20?

This really. Hard to get people onside regarding banning lootboxes when the argument is "middle-aged man bought $5000 worth of character skins".

>minister
Ministers sit on the front benchand form the cabinet, the rest are MPs user, good grief.

Mucho Basado

Gambling addiction is a lie.

Agreed. That shows that either this shit is absurdly manipulative or that kids these days don't respect their parents at all.

The one family with young kids I know where the oldest son does play Fortnite and FIFA it's definitely the second. Seeing his mom parade new boyfriends around to piss off his dad probably destroys any respect a kid could possibly have for his parents.

Go away libertarian

The age of lootboxes are over in the EU and America Light. What are they going to do next?

They've already started with the Battle Passes and shit. Have you SEEN what Apex Legends did? Pay 170 bucks to be allowed to spend 35 on something else!

>Any decent parent would beat the shit out of their child
The problem is white people dont hit their kids. My best friends mom let that crazy fucker do what he wanted and now hes a half shaved head sjw cuck.

My parents are hispanic. When one of us did something bad all 6 of us got whipped lol

>white people lmao
Post hand with timestamp.

Im white and my Dad hit me all of the time. Fucker used to throw his work boots at me cause he was too lazy to get up.

>user YA FUCKINGSHIT

nice bait

Im not white you numbnutz read my post im a spic.

Based Dad

>N-NO IF CORPORATIONS CAN'T FUCK ME OVER FOR THIS ONE THING THAT MEANS THE GOVERNMENT IS FUCKING ME INSTEAD
>I WAS DEFINITELY GONNA BENEFIT FROM THE EXISTENCE OF LOOTBOXES UNTIL THE GOVERNMENT STEPPED IN
>IT'S NOT BOOTLICKING IF YOU DO IT FOR A DIFFERENT SET OF KIKES
Simply eric

Yea Forums is always contrarian. I honestly wish Redditors and Tumblr would encourage breathing so all the retarded faggots here could suffocate themselves

Gambling ????? with games
What does that say it looks like a captcha
1tastL

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Loot boxes are based because they dab on shitty parents and weed out /weak mind/ niggas who lack responsibility and blame everyone else for their myriad of problems. BASED. Imagine actually spending money on this completely optional shit. Imagine giving your kid your card to make online purchases. NOOOOO THINK OF THE CHILDREN yeah think of the children you'll never have because you're all such a betas, oh wait by children are you all referring to manchildren such as yourselves?

I was raised by a single parent and hsve more discipline than half the shitlings running around.

You can still do that provided you are over 18.

The issue is that while parents thibk that they're only using the card to buy PS+ or Xbox Live, the details are saved and then used to buy the lootboxes. The cards get maxed out in an afternoon, so there's no time to check.

That's still on the parents for being retarded

What's that yellow piece of metal on the muzzle for?

don't worry, there are a lot of anonymous rehab groups.

It's assuming that by setting up regular payments for X you do not allow an infinite amount to be spent for Y. I can see it being a very easy mistake for someone unfamiliar with the console.

>what do you MEAN yugioh cards are the same thing THEY AREN'T THE SAME THING MUH LOOTBOXES

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I didn't know lootboxes gave you a tangible item that can be purchased on its own.

Again, on the parents.

They just plop their kid down and let the console babysit theit kids, literally be more involved and limit their play time. Go to the park, read with them, play with toys and engage with them. It's very easy to out the blame on others but most parents nowadays are fucking terrible. I'm not saying be strict, I'm saying be involved and know what your kids are fucking doing and do more with them than just lol here's a game gonna go post on facebook/twitter and complain about games.

>It's very easy to out the blame on others
he says while putting all of the blame on others from an outside perspective

Not an argument try again

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>outside perspective
No I have experience dealing with shitty parent and no I only put the blame on said shitty parents. You'd ve surprised how disconnected most parents are from their kids.

You fucking cucks ruining gaming, you will hang from the tallest tree in due time.

that's literally an outside perspective, user. and your examples are fucking terrible because you assume that the kids are at the very most 10 years old. honestly sounds more like you're talking about pre-schoolers.

That's exactly the argument most people are making, is that it's literal grade schoolers being targeted.

>Woah teenagers are children when it comes to videogames but NOOOO I'M NOT A PEDO SHE'S 14 IT'S HEMOPHILIA I'M NOT A PEDO MUH LAWS OF CONSENT
The absolute hypocrisy of Yea Forums.

Dumb people give birth to dumb kids I guess, based loot boxes are a form of eugenics.

i have no idea what kind of strawman that shitpile of a greentext is supposed to be.
i have never seen anyone mention grade schoolers specifically so i don't know what the fuck you are trying to say here with that post. it just doesn't make sense from any kind of viewpoint.

Years of scare culture have made it inappropriate for children to play outside without supervision, and children dp not perform well while being constantly watched.
Consoles and social media have replaced gaming as the premier form of communication between peers outside of school. If you think parents should nog allow children to play with friends without constant supervision I fear for what kind of creature you end up raising.

>removing slot machines in video games is ruining them
You are the cuck here who needs a rope

Gambling with in-game currency is fine; it's when actual money is involved that things get hazy.

This is quality bait. Bravo.

Perhaps you should go to a casino instead. At the very least you'll get free drinks and time at the buffet.

>government overreach
Oh fuck right off. What's with this retarded Libertardian idea that the government has never involved itself with regulating an industry until the past 20 years? Fuck, the comicbook industry almost got regulated in the early 1950's due to morality reasons thus had to come up with a comic authority association to provide proof that it was staying up to moral code.
Don't act like you're one of us just because you're using a weeb reactionary image you Valve/EA/Activision/Ubisoft shill.

This board is only for those age 18 and over
children can't look after themselves

>roll for some painkillers cause of the headache i've got
>get some oxycodone
fucking NICE

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I never said that retard, I said parents should be more involved but not that they should monitor their kids 24/7.

>woah pedos will kidnap my kids
Not if yoy go to the park with them and play with them, parents need to be involved and play qnd give their kids attention. I agree a healthy mix of both giving them space and doing things with them is best. What I'm arguing is that I'VE SEEN first hand parents completely just neglect their kids you dumbass not that you should breath down their neck like a police state.

Woah think of all the 3 year olds playing the game with lootboxes nooooo

YouTube is full of these comments amd videos

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Just put an age restriction on gambling
Fucking non-issue

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>I agree a healthy mix of both giving them space and doing things with them is best.
so all in all you're just giving some advice that is technically right but practically useless because it's vague and meaningless while referring to some anecdotal evidence about extreme cases. all the while completely ignoring all the children above the age of 10. why don't you just stop posting?

>lmao why do you care about governments taking measures against excessive corporate greed in the video game industry
I don't know, could it be because one of the biggest reasons why games have grown so shit over the years is because they're designed to be half-finished DLC fests that slowly wring money out of you instead of a complete 60$ experience with no strings attached?

The further we move away from practices that EA and the like employs the better

>Yea Forums thread discussing lootboxes instead of jumping onto bongs, politics and the BBC
Very impressive honestly. Well done user.

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It's a BFA (Blank Firing Adapter). It's so the rifle will work while firing blanks during training

yeah wtf, why do governments deny our childrens' right to gamble in real life casinos?

I'm not ignoring shit, it's not the toddlers it's the kids 10+ what do you mean parents should just not allow them to buy dlc Nooooooo

Jesus I hope you don't have a daughter she'll probably end up getting knocked up by age 14

keep the european cuckerment out of my video games

Yet again it's very obvious v doesn't play videogames

>it's not the toddlers it's the kids 10+ what do you mean parents should just not allow them to buy dlc Nooooooo
i don't even know what to say. this reads like your brain is having a meltdown and you try to hide it with some nonsensical attempt at sarcasm.

It does, but the government is roughly 25 years behind dutiful regulation of the video game industry and haven't caught up on all the evil shit they to to strain out as much cash as possible

No I just had to poop

What regulations are you even talking about? Just slap an 18 on anything that involves gambling
DO you want Emily Thornberry as the fucking Minister for Electronic Entertainment Regulations? Are you fucking dumbbb

>should instead be earned as rewards for game-play
No fuck you, fuck these RNG """""rewards""""", paying for slot machines with my time is worse than literal gambling.
I'd rather have entirely pay2gamble2win games than shitty cosmetic lootboxes for leveling up, battle pass grinding or whatever because I'd be able to spot the bullshit immediately. I don't give a fuck about gambling kids, I don't give a fuck about gambling addicts, it's their fucking choice to waste their money. Stop bitching about corporations and demanding regulation. Vote with your wallet, nigger. Uninstall Origin and Battle.net if you want to protect yourself from falling for same scam over and over again you fucking cuck.

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Honestly, I just wanna see EA's profits take a massive nosedive as soon as they're unable to sell their gambling to retarded kids with no concept of money. It's such a crutch for the whole company that If they lost their most important demographic it could cripple them. I don't care about the people who work there, they know what they were doing when they applied, and that's why I sincerely hope EA goes out of business.

MP's say a lot of shit, one MP said we should put GPS tracking chips in all knives!
like where do you even begin with people that technologically inept.

>A healthy mix
WHY THE FUCK SAY THAT IT IS THE PARENT'S FAULT FOR NOT SUPERVISING THE CHILDREN 24/7 THEN

The vast majority of consumers don't buy lootboxes. 10% of people are responsible for 90% of profits. The industry won't contain itself and consumers have no power, the only way to fight this is government regulation.

>1% of all revenue on a game for every patch
>fined 10% of all revenue on a game if you don't patch a bug within a reasonable timeframe
>fined 1% of all revenue for any DLC that cannot accurately be described as an "expansion"
>both numbers triple on games that make more than $5M
Incentivises publishers to actually finish their games before launch, and to only make good DLC. Needs some work obviously, but it might actually work.

What a shitty fucking strawman. You have to go through a multitude of steps to even be able to buy lootboxes in a lot of these games. I hope you never become a parent since you'll just expect companies to watch your kids for you.

For one, don't let your kids play on a console with payment details saved onto it. They can't "gamble" if you're not retarded enough to practically give them your credit card. Yes, lootboxes are a shit mechanic but this opinion that they'll turn your kid into a gambling addict is as accurate as the soccer moms screaming about games like DOOM turning kids into murderers.

>Trusting millenial/boomer parents to do a good job
user this isn't about what should happen its what has to happen because the people are fucked in so many small ways and theres no fixing them

I like how EA is blamed for the lootbox kikery fiasco yet Valve goes scot-free despite being the sole contributor for mainstreaming it in the West.

I don't care about children, lootboxes are bad because they encourage companies to put this anti-consumer shit in instead of making a game.

>>Trusting millenial/boomer parents to do a good job

Yes, they are adults. If they don't do a good job, that's on them and it's their fault. It isn't our concern and it shouldn't be the government's when it comes to entertainment.

In an age of convenience like this, we should be instilling values of cognizance and self-control instead of automation, that's something to get up in arms about.

Good luck with that

>better let EA continue making shit games ruined by lootboxes to own big government
Yikes. Downvoted.

You don't even play them, what concern is it of yours?

>You don't even play them
Where did you learn the power of telepathy user?
>what concern is it of yours
Its my concern since I can't play a shit game like Battlefield without getting lootboxes shoved down my fucking throat.
Your mistake is thinking I care about the kids.

I don't like lootboxes either and rarely play games that have them or an equivalent mechanic. But why is it of importance to you if you just admitted shit like Battlefield is a shit game? Why would you play it then?

And apparently, Battlefield V doesn't even have lootboxes due to feedback, not that I played it since I don't like FPS games. But EA bad, never listens to feedback, right guys?

Based, lootboxes are literal cancer and no game has ever been improved with them in any way that couldn't have been served better by doing a system that caps at game price plus $25 for literally everything forever.
Enough people would have gone thats fine that they would have made what can only be described as similar amounts of raw fucking bank and the games would have been either the same or slightly better without the need to "nudge" the players near it.

>earn lootboxes as rewards
If they can't charge you for buying the lootboxes, they'll include some shit that can be charged for to make it easier to get the lootbox rewards.

>is a shit game
Didn't know that until I played it champ did I?
>Battlefield V doesn't have them
More than one Battlefield game in existence.
>EA bad, doesn't listen to feedback
Yet they're still in every sports game they make. How could this happen?!? They listen to us gamers right?!?
>why do you care
Because now they find their way into single-player games. Playing the last Shadow of Mordor was fun on release.
>but my corporate masters took them out!
Months after release when the money dried up. Fact is, they're in more and more games now, which makes avoiding them harder.

Pretty much. Morons like the bootlicker I've replied to above are the reason it's as bad as it is now.
>ooooh it doesn't affect me
>ahhh it's not too bad
>b-but daddy EA took them out! They're the good guys!
They've been allowed to push their luck and finally it's coming around.

>More than one Battlefield game in existence.
And they won't be in further Battlefield games by the looks of it. But yeah, it's not a waste of energy to get mad about things already addressed, you're right.
>Yet they're still in every sports game they make. How could this happen?!? They listen to us gamers right?!?
In a separate mode you realistically never have to touch. There's many, many other modes, including online modes, that don't deal with the Ultimate Team card packs and whatnot. But you don't play sports games so it's understandable you don't know what you're talking about.
>Fact is, they're in more and more games now, which makes avoiding them harder.
You just contradicted yourself. They're in more and more games but they're getting taken out? And like with Battlefield, not present at all? You just sound like a brainlet outrage culture NPC, you have no form of critical thought and barely any understanding of what you think you're mad at. You just want to react to something like the rest of the epic gamers on Yea Forums.

Look nigger I dont know about you but I'd rather not have an uncapped submarket in a product I paid for already, things like temptation exist and publishers do shitty things in their games trying it on which just makes me quit the game because its no longer worth playing.
If I don't want the dick the 1st time the next thousand request ain't gonna be any different and corporations cant do anything but ask nicely

Woah, let me unpack this.
>won't be in further Battlefield games
Again I have to ask, where did you get this power of telepathy? Or is this the power of foresight? Please let me know.
>separate mode you realistically never have to touch
But why would they choose to monetize, and continue to monetize, Ultimate Team if it was anything other than the most popular mode?
>But you don't play sports games
The power of telepathy once again. How you do it user, I just have to know.
>They're in more and more games but they're getting taken out?
Are you familiar with the saying, "it's all relative"? Just because some games have removed lootboxes, that does not mean that the overall number of games with them has gone down, since many games are adding them. See?
>brainlet outrage culture NPC
buzzword buzzword buzzword. Buzz buzz buzz.
>want to react
Thats right, because I don't like lootboxes at all. I don't care if its not bad like you say, because I don't like them and would rather them gone.
How much are you paid per post by the way? I could use some decent paid shilling work.

Okay you get battle passes instead
happy now?

>let me unpack this
buzzword buzzword
>Again I have to ask, where did you get this power of telepathy? Or is this the power of foresight? Please let me know.
Hence why I said "by the looks of it," I trust you can read. If they return, then I'm wrong.
>But why would they choose to monetize, and continue to monetize, Ultimate Team if it was anything other than the most popular mode?
Why would that matter? It's a mode you're not forced to spend money in, yes, lazy normoids try and buy their top tier Messis without playing the game and get wrecked against people who form their team without monetary assistance. My gf plays Ultimate Team, and hasn't spent a penny and has a very good team. Regardless, it's cordoned off to a mode people like me haven't even tried. I just like to do local matches.
>Are you familiar with the saying, "it's all relative"? Just because some games have removed lootboxes, that does not mean that the overall number of games with them has gone down, since many games are adding them. See?
Name some recent games, from EA or otherwise, that have pervasive lootbooxes that affect the majority of content. If you can, I'll join in being mad.
>Thats right, because I don't like lootboxes at all.
I don't like them either, and haven't played any modes centered around them. Luckily most games have plenty of other modes not centered around them.
>How much are you paid per post by the way? I could use some decent paid shilling work.
Roughly the level of wit from a YouTube comment. Yes, not getting mad at inconsequential things means I'm employed at EA, you figured it out.

>Anons GF plays UT
>user does not
>Using normoids in any context
What in the goddamn?

>buzzword buzzword
It's not, but I like the enthusiasm.
>"by the looks of it"
Amazing that a vauge prediction is your argument. By the looks of it, EA will put lootboxes in their next Battlefield. Its cool how I can do that too, isn't it?
>not forced to spend money
This so moronic I almost can't believe it. Since you aren't forced to spend money on anything that isn't a neccessity to live, you can use this to defend literally anything. Meal at a restraint bad? Stop complaining, you didn't have to eat out.
>hasn't spent a penny and has a very good team
Good for her. But shouldn't her being massively disadvantaged by "lazy normoids" (bzz) who have spent money and have Messi be cause for concern?
>Name some games that have pervasive lootboxes
giantbomb.com/loot-boxes/3015-9059/games/
Giant bomb kindly did that for me.
>that affect the majority of the content
Aw, and there's your get out clause. Because let me guess, by your standards, none of these are "pervasive" and "affect the majority of the content".
>I don't like lootboxes
Yet you're alright with them? Just because something bad only happens a little bit, why is that okay?
>wit from a YouTube
This is someone who used normoid in any context.

>By the looks of it, EA will put lootboxes in their next Battlefield. Its cool how I can do that too, isn't it?
That's your prediction based on them removing lootboxes and making a big deal of it? Lol
>This so moronic I almost can't believe it. Since you aren't forced to spend money on anything that isn't a neccessity to live, you can use this to defend literally anything. Meal at a restraint bad? Stop complaining, you didn't have to eat out.
Horribly moronic comparison. If you didn't like a meal at a restaurant, the entire thing wasn't good. It would be more like if the restaurant gave you a side dish for free and you didn't like it, separate from the rest of the meal. And I don't even like that comparison. Food analogies are for actual brainlets.
>Good for her. But shouldn't her being massively disadvantaged by "lazy normoids" (bzz) who have spent money and have Messi be cause for concern?
No because they're almost all universally terrible at the game. If it were enough of a problem, she'd just play the other modes, like career mode, local matches, etc.
>Giant bomb kindly did that for me.
Of the games I know about that were recent releases, those lootboxes aren't pervasive and are relegated to separate, optional modes like FIFA 19, NBA 2K20.
>Aw, and there's your get out clause. Because let me guess, by your standards, none of these are "pervasive" and "affect the majority of the content".
Do you think you're making a decent argument telling me I shouldn't point out the other 95% of the game that doesn't have a hint of lootboxes?
>Yet you're alright with them? Just because something bad only happens a little bit, why is that okay?
When did I say I'm alright with them? You just quoted me as saying I don't like them. I don't think they're a good mechanic for progression. I'm responding to the sentiment they ruin entire games or even ruin them to a notable point, however, as I've shown is untrue. So quit moving the goalpost.

>EA removing them
But they have them in all their other games, so it's a valid prediction either way.
>moronic comparison
It's not, because if part of your meal is bad the rest is ruined. If you found a fly in your soup, you wouldn't say the entire thing was good.
>muh food analogies
Always the fallback when retards like yourself have nothing to say.
>if it were enough of a problem, she'd just play the other modes
Woah, avoiding part of a game because of lootboxes. Sounds like a problem to me. Your "gf" may be your entire frame of reference, but more people exist than her.
>giantbomb
And it even left our some of the bigger ones. Overwatch, Fortnite, CSGO of all things.
>95% of the game doesn't have lootboxes
I'd ask which orifice this was taken from, but we both know.
>games are ruined by lootboxes
>I've shown is untrue
But your opinion means nothing since here
you tell me you don't play games with lootboxes, so how can you argue games aren't ruined by lootboxes when you play them in the first place?

>It's not, because if part of your meal is bad the rest is ruined. If you found a fly in your soup, you wouldn't say the entire thing was good.
Soup is a homogenous meal whereas video games, especially sports games, aren't a homogenous product like, say, a typical single player game is.
>Always the fallback when retards like yourself have nothing to say.
Yes, because they're dumb as fuck and always will be. If you can actually argue your point, analogies shouldn't even be needed.
>Woah, avoiding part of a game because of lootboxes. Sounds like a problem to me. Your "gf" may be your entire frame of reference, but more people exist than her.
Yes, a consequently minor part of the game. Because there's a lot more to FIFA than UT, same with 2K20, PES, etc. The packs deserve scrutiny but it's blown out of proportion how ruinous they are by people who don't play them.
>I'd ask which orifice this was taken from, but we both know.
Do you mean your take? It's out of your ass because you haven't played the games I'm talking about.
>But your opinion means nothing since here
(You) you tell me you don't play games with lootboxes, so how can you argue games aren't ruined by lootboxes when you play them in the first place?
Let down your hateboner for a second there. I said I rarely play them, don't misquote me. And when I do play them, ie, the occasional sport game, they don't sully my experience. My opinion is valid since I do have experience, unlike you considering you actually think lootboxes affect a great majority of the content in sports games.

>minor part of the game
See what The Dude has to say about that.
>wahhh you haven't played the games
You keep saying this based on nothing.
>don't sully my experience
Good for you, they sully mine. Hence the complaint.
Suppose the final question now is why do you support companies further monentising products you've presumably paid for already? Especially since you argue that you should just avoid those aspects of the game, further reducing the amount of content you paid for?
Why do you defend such a dishonest practise simply because you avoid it?

>See what The Dude has to say about that.
?
>You keep saying this based on nothing.
Do you play a lot of sports games, user? Just be straight, have you played a lot of FIFA or NBA recently? Usually if someone has indeed played a game they will just say they did and offer a counterpoint based on their experience. I'm led to believe you haven't because you keep tiptoeing around this.
>Suppose the final question now is why do you support companies further monentising products you've presumably paid for already?
Kind of a loaded question when I feel the product is usually rife enough with features and content that the monetized aspect of it is hardly consequential. Lots of consumers are like me, in that they don't play every single mode a game offers. Like I played The Last of Us, didn't touch the multiplayer. Would say it was an overall good game despite what I missed out on. To answer you directly, I buy these games (usually on sale) because I enjoy the gameplay.
>Why do you defend such a dishonest practise simply because you avoid it?
If lootboxes are done away with entirely, and Ultimate Team was dismantled, it wouldn't affect me at all. I'm hardly the best defense for them, consequently. Again, I'm more arguing that the effect lootboxes have currently is overstated and misinformed.

>?
"Well that's just, your opinion man"
>FIFA or NBA
Play fifa fairly irregular. Point stands, Ultimate Team sucks thanks to it as people who have put money into packs generally have better teams. Thanks to better players having better stats, it gives them a definite edge.
>is overstated
This has been the main point of contention and we'll just have to agree to disagree here user.
It's late in my timezone so this will be my last point. It's genuinely been interesting user.