Where did Fate go wrong?

the start

Fate was always shit

wrong

Came here to post this.

Fate should've ended with Ataraxia

>cunny
You know she's older than Shirou and every girl you can actually fuck, right?

>porn """game""" where king arthur is a little girl who sucks your cock for contrived reasons
How anyone can take this shit franchise seriously is beyond me

At F/SN when best girl lost against a fucking worm

At its inception

something something Mantis-X

>literally this
"Hey, we get to use every historical figure ever in a free-for-all!"
Cool!
"Also a bunch of them are little girls you HAVE to fuck to give them energy."
Oh, right, Japan made this.

kill yourself faggot

Have sex, incel.
And unlike the games you play, try not to fuck children.

Fate/Grand Order

Mantis-x is overrated same-face same-animation garbage.

whatever, you virgin

fgo

Moving away from the hetare artstyle.

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Isn't jack the ripper just a little girl in a bikini?

It's naive to assume the current Fatefag is anything but a secondary or god forbid a tertiary.
I hate it too user

Extra, and it peaked with Hollow Ataraxia

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"I swear she's legal, officer"
Kys pedo.

So the message here is don't play the sequel?

the message here is play the sequell(Hollow Ataraxia) and drop it there

Even a lot of those who aren't little girls have completely retarded, nonsensical designs
Gilgamesh is a bishonen white while Alexander is gruff, buff and brown, like they literally swapped their designs
Why is Caesar some ridiculous fat bastard?
Why is Edison a fucking furry?
Why is a knight of Charlemagne a tranny?
It's like these Jap faggots intentionally go out of their way to desecrate these figures as much as possible

pleb filtered by the barely canon h-scenes nobody gives a fuck about lmao

When they added Shitstolfo.

Not to mention most of the servants who are supposed to be based off dudes are genderbent for no fucking reason. Just because the original seiba did it doesn't mean you should do it to the others. I mean, I know they're trying to balance out the genders, but there's a lot of historical women out there. Surely they could've based some of the peeps off them instead.

Seething

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>Nero
>Trending

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Why do people play these games when there's actual porn on the internet?
Like, I get it, you're lonely, but you can see actual women naked instead of a censored CG set.
Shit, with the money some people spend on gatcha shit you can just get a hooker and have actual sex.

The sex scene in the abandoned home before the berserker fight was unironically good aside from characters being ooc. shirou's autism and the tension was great

youtu.be/BjlNjiftFPo

>Like, I get it,
why do you write like a faggot?

You tell me.

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By not giving Ilya a route.
Also selling out for literal billions did nothing good for the franchise.

You sound like you enjoy cocks in your ass.

No Illya route.

>Plays games with traps

Ok Japan whatever you say

Because they want to feel like someone loves them so they project onto pngs of anime girls they gambled for with real money.

You mean no Caster route.

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How does that pertain to Illya being a loli?

Zero is the most decent thing they have, and it's still pretentious and mediocre. Why do you like this garbage?
Infodumping, edge, bad action and exposition, bland characters, plot armor, etc. I hate to see money wasted on this shit.

No kotomine route.

>You should have sex
>SHUT UP FAGGOT
incel detected

>Where did Fate go wrong?

pic related

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Yes, which makes it even better

Don't you have a novel to translate?

Anything that is not directly related to F/SN is shit.

No Illya route.

They make good blowjob animations but everything else about them is terrible.

Do you really have a defenseless anus?

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Fate S/N VN, with all its shortcomings, is fresher and overal better than any secondary media intended to milk the success of the original.

This

But for real, everything after hollow ataraxia shouldn't exist.

people who prefer Zero haven't played the VN.

>Gilgamesh is a bishonen white while Alexander is gruff, buff and brown, like they literally swapped their designs
Alexander also has a younger form.
>Why is Caesar some ridiculous fat bastard?
Because early FGO was a shitshow with no oversight from Nasu.
>Why is Edison a fucking furry?
Because early FGO was a shitshow with no oversight from Nasu.
>Why is a knight of Charlemagne a tranny?
Astolfo is not a tranny, kill yourself.

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FGO, obviously. Anyone who answers otherwise is either a gacha-addicted retard or never liked the series in the first place

I see you are a man of culture as well

Or a tertiary who doesn't know that the series actually went to shit with Extra.

No. Stop that.

Can't wait for the F/SN remake with an Illya route after they release the Tsukihime remake.

Stay/Night is great. Zero is amazing.

Everything else is irredeemable trash, but admittedly it's in tiers. Extra Last Encore is really the pit of the series.some of the spinoff games are fun tho, like the musou clones

lol

>Astolfo is not a tranny, kill yourself.
Okay, he's a crossdressing faggot twink. Better?

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How did Extra ruin the series in any way? Please do tell. It's a fucking noncanon spin-off, contrary to FGO which is trash, purely commercially driven, canon and currently inescapable part of the series since every Fate discussion anywhere turns to FGO sooner or later. FGO IS Fate nowdays. You might not like Extra, but it's simply innofensive at worst.

Yeah.
;_;

yes

PEDO

>Astolfo is not a tranny
Still the worst character in the franchise by far.

>d-do I fit in yet, fellow redditors? xDD

Neither of those is ever happening.

Why post a self portrait? Also here's a crossdressing faggot WOMANIZING twink, who is also what said.

>How did Extra ruin the series in any way?
Nero looks exactly like Artoria for no reason except she has green eyes and this kickstarted the trend of making a billion Saber clones for no reason.
>It's a fucking noncanon spin-off
So is FGO, retard.

Obviously yes.

thanks for the compliment

I don't know if I remember this right, but it's funny to think that the author of Apocrypha literally forgot Astolfo's gender.

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Extra started the waifubait selfinsert dicksucking with all servnats falling in love with (You), which is what eventually dumbed down the series for mass appeal

FGO is canon you god damn moron, much as i fucking hate it. According to Type/Moon, only FSN and FGO are canon. And this is why Extra is fine, it's a fucking spin-off you can ignore completely if you don't like it. Your logic of "Nero is the first saberclone" is stupid anyway since it's not something inherently wrong with Extra itself, but with Takeuchi. If Extra didn't exist he would have made Saberclones anyway. Compare this with FGO's fuckery that makes a mockery of the nasuverse, since we now have furries, 900 genderbent servants that don't even attempt to have a decent excuse for being genderbent, boring as shit, cookie cutter noble phantasms since everything has to fit into the mobile game mold, the grail canonically summoning saber with a squirt gun as an Archer and a plethora of retardced shit like that. FGO is just the series completly giving up on being anything other than a venue to sell hentai artists designs to porn addicted otakus

>FGO is canon

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can't be worse than n*ro

Wow it's almost like the whole "it's a porn game" thing is a dumb meme and people actually read it for the characters and the story

Yeah i'm sure that covering your years and screaming loudly not to hear the truth makes living a lot more convenient

>characters and the story
So the underage girls in lingerie and the story that says you gotta stick your dick in them. Got it.

Companion chatbots are going to be huge if they get out of the therapy ghetto.

>the story literally gives you a reason why you gotta fuck them
Say what you will, but they know their demographic.

Anything you say is retarded because you obviously can't even comprehend that FGO has nothing to do with stay night, Zero, and hollow ataraxia, and is therefore unrelated to the original work and is not canon to it.

Yeah, i hate FGO too buddy. Tell that to TypeMoon who considers it canon, not me. I wish it wasn't, but i don't go around trying to deny reality.

When it was made. Eternal reminder for all you Fatefags:
youtube.com/watch?v=zldORaRtdMw
Pay close attention to the CGs.

>According to Type/Moon, only FSN and FGO are canon
Yeah Imma need to see a source on that one, pal.
I understand that FSN is canon to FGO, but FGO is not canon to FSN. Basically nothing is actually canon to FSN besides FSN.

You seem really upset over this

What?
Fate noob here, have only watched PRisma Illya and Zero
Illya doesn't have a route in the original VN?
Fucking dropped.

>I understand that FSN is canon to FGO
It actually isn't.

Obviously FGO takes place in a different "timeline" than FSN but they consider FGO to be the continuation of the main series.

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*Iskandar
Alexander is a shota twink

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>Unironically saying "I play it for the story!"

Remember when this used to be "I read it for the articles"?

>This
The first waifu app to incorporate that is gonna take off among incels.

Why are we getting so many people that seem unironically mad at anime sexualizing minors lately? Are we just filled with normalfags now? Yeah i want to stick my throbbing adult cock into illya's underdeveloped childish pussy nigga and if you don't what are you even doing on Yea Forums

Combination of gamergate and 2016 election brought a lot of unwanted trash to the site that never really left.

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today i will remind them

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>SOULLESS
huh? wat u mean?
The only good thing to come out of Extra that actually felt like Type Moon was Kiara. The moon cell as a concept is fucking garbage, and the sakurafaces are fucking garbage.

FGO being a shitty gacha mobage doesn't change that the lore is the best shit Nasu has written since hollow ataraxia, and he's reintroducing a lot of concepts that haven't been touched in a long time. Plus the general concept of rayshifting so we actually get to go and explore the world rather than being a Japanese high school student who gets caught up in the paranormal and has to balance school life with wacky magical adventures is a breath of fresh air.
>Beasts
>Grand Servants
>Lostbelts
All very cool new concepts.
>Primate Murder
>Dead Apostles
>Atlas
All great returning concepts that haven't been touched in ages.

Did people actually find the lore for this good? It was always one of those gatcha games rampant with oversexualization to actually sell. It's literally the worse type of game thats just packed with incelbait junk.

this is retarded, gg neckbeards are literally the ones crying about pedo pandering being censored 24/7

Jesus Christ my dude, this is an embarrassing post.

Heavens feel route was enjoyable to me. Didn’t really care for the rest.

Based and cunnypilled

Truth stings? I actually put time into FGO, I know it well enough. Noone talks about anything besides posting nsfw garbage all the time, it's literally one of those games like senran that makes sales of fanservice filth.

>Yea Forums
this is 4channel, this place is flooded with normalfags and nsfw loli is actively banned across most boards

fuck off sjw

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You don't even know what gacha is. You can't even spell it.
>FGO
Digging the hole deeper. I'll give you a hint. OP's image isn't from FGO, mouthbreather.

Astolfo is worse because he attracts trapfags and they're pure cancer.

>implying

yeah but nero attracts nerofags

It's literally apart of the fate series, fate stay night. Sorry retard, fate series has literally degraded into actual garbage with gatcha that relies entirely of poorly written characters now days.

Trying to remember but did Shirou kill Ilya in the hero ending? Is there someplace where it's depicted, manga/anime?

fate itself was already type moon going wrong from tsukihime/KNK. it's ironic fate fans complain about secondaries and dumbing down for a mass audience when fate itself was already that for type moon

with that said as soon as they stopped doing stuff directly based on the original characters and instead started the endless trend of "it's like this character but slightly different" saberface bullshit. so extra was when fate and type moon was 100% damaged goods and officially sold out

OG Shirou and Seibah were female and male respectively. Takeuchi, the shit artist, convinced Nasu that it would sell better if it were a porn game with a male lead instead.
Nasu proceeded to make it revolve around this change.

Everything wrong with Fate today stems from this one fact.

shirou being a woman and saber a male would've been fucking shit

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extra is fucking bullshit. trying to say takeuchi wold eventually saberface anyway is retarded given that the entire point of extra is that it has sabers design but its not saber, archers design but its not archer, shinji and sakuras designs but its not them, ect ect

its just fucking lazy. fate has the same problem as star wars where things that worked in one story have for some reason become "this is how it has to be for any story we make in this setting"

theres 1 sex scene per roughly 30 hours of reading, nobody is playing this game to jerk off any more than people watch conan for the brief time arnold is fucking a woman

Damn 2016 brought more pedos here?

>Takeuchi, the shit artist, convinced Nasu that it would sell better if it were a porn game with a male lead instead.
which is why tsukihime and KNK also had erotic content? KNK was a novel so you can't even argue that there was some unspoken rule that VN's at the time had to have sexy content to sell (not actually true by the way, given that tokimeki memorial is both the most sanitized VN style game and the most successful in japan, among countless other games from that time or earlier)

calling takeuchi "the shit artist" is a pretty good meme given that him funding nasu to be a neet so he can write out his autistic chunni fantasy shit while they worked on tsukihime is the only reason fate even existed in the first place

Fate/stay night has one of the highest word counts of any work of fiction, I'm pretty sure. The amount of smut in that is pretty negligible.

where is a wrong question
the right question is when
and the answer is somewhere around 2010-2011
after that everything went downhill and degraded into a complete and utter trash
good thing I realized it early enough and give myself enough time to alienate from everything related to TM
nasu is an old hack and i don't really blame him for selling off fate, but seeing that he's also sold knk and tsukihime to gachaniggers triggers me greatly
what a way to retire - burn every bridge and sell your children into slavery

at least DDD and notes are still unspoiled with shit like anime adaptations and whatnot, right?

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oh

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this

you also call every movie with erotic scenes a porn film?
fucking retarded gorilla nigger

I really wish we could know how every famous person feels to be waifu fapbait.

it never went right, it's been perpetually fucking retarded.

yeah
in modern day and age if you're famous on the internet even for one goddamn day there's gonna be a ton of porn
i mean just look at some of the shadman submissions

Season 2

>doesn't change that the lore is the best shit Nasu has written since hollow ataraxia
except that nasu isnt writing shit for quite some time now

I never got the point of having saber faces. Like I'm just cool with Jeanne out of all of them

When it stopped being eroge.

...

this, biggest missed opportunity in vidya history

Who's this "Nero" everyone is talking about? This is the only Nero I know.

t. dropped fateshit ages ago

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Gaming has gone to complete shit in recent years. Why feel surprised that the audience is composed of moronic normalfags now?

Except he's still in charge of the scenario dipshit, so all the lore and world building comes from him. Whether he's the one writing the prose and individual stories of events/singularities/lostbelts is fucking irrelevant.

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>This is the only Nero I know
A blank image?

the fate reddit is full of niggers asking to censor lolishit and the localization devs actually respond and make vague comments about actually following through with it. What do you think?

>Whether he's the one writing the prose and individual stories of events/singularities/lostbelts is fucking irrelevant.
Wrong.
Also, Nasu being in charge is literally fucking irrelevant.
In one of his interviews ages ago he said that he's old, want to retire and would not write shit for fate anymore though might write some unrelated prose here and there (which was proven false with time). Now all he does is counting shekels and either waves hand dismissively at whatever the fuck happens or at best actively encourages shit that will give him more money through viral bullshit gachanigs eat up so eagerly. If you had even a minuscule of a brain you would notice how fast typemoon did a 180 and switched from being a decent franchise with dignity to a pile of horse shit with fanservice such as lolis and traps to appeal to masses and sell better.

This. We live in the worst timeline where Fate hit it off instead of the other Type Moon franchises.

>it's like this character but slightly different
you mean like tsukihime did with it's entire cast being remixes of KnK characters?

yes, same as KNK is a reskinned DDD

True.

>there's a timeline where Mahoyo actually sold well enough to have TypeMoon consider making more VN's.

>Nearly 2 decades doing illustrations.
>Still can't draw for shit.

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I think he's just gotten really lazy. He probably doesn't even like FGO

QUICK
POST BEST ENDING

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I hope you realize the election pattern is going to repeat every 4 years till the site shuts down. Its only going to get worse from here

Except that Takeuchi is the CEO and Art director for franchise.

If anything, he have more power than Nasu while allowing shit like this pass.

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>All very cool new concepts.
All of these sound absolutely retarded user.

He's arguably gotten worse at it since all he can do is literally Saberface and slightly masculine Saberface for men.
Also the weird gruff chiseled face he uses for shit like Agravain, Kuzuki and to lesser extent Kotomine.

Fuck off tertiary scum.

Tsukihime anime EXISTS!

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>Okay, he's a crossdressing faggot twink. Better?
Congratulations, now your description is accurate to his legend.

What a shit post.

I fucking love Illya. Both of them, they are distinctly different characters but both are good in their own way.
I'm still holding out for that F/SN remake with an added Illya route like they're doing for Sacchin in Tsukihime before Nasu dies. Problem is the Tsukihime remake is taking 10 fucking years.

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Nice fake screenshot

More than the remake.

swords

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I actually enjoyed it

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wait a second this is a trap isn't it?
that saber clone was from a magazine or something before fgo ever existed right?

This. It was honestly one of the most disappointing moments in any VN. All that build up for nothing.

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it's a woman

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My dick is swords.

>I'm still holding out for that F/SN remake with an added Illya route like they're doing for Sacchin in Tsukihime
Sacchin's route was basically already written, just cut. Illya's route was merged into HF.

I mean the image is bait

oh, no idea

The images you get on google are screwed by your browser history, so yeah the image is bait

You're not really wrong, but consider female Shirou.
>Fantastic housewife
>Cooks like a pro
>Loves swords
>Will always save you
>Is a superhero
Absolute best girl.

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God I love swords.

>ohnonono people want to use language properly? there's no way, it must be an agenda...

She will be STUBBORN like a tree.

From the beginning. It's a porn game that takes itself too seriously.

Lo and behold, Takeushit was right

best girl

>take away the only thing people play the shitty game for
So make it even worse?

Wonder how Shirou's autism would look if he was a girl

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Are you talking about the original FSN? That shit's like maybe 30 minutes total of voiceless porn, each of the 3 routes is as long as the full Lord of the Rings

Astolfo is the very definition of a trap. He doesn't see himself as a woman and is technically straight, even being a womanizer. He's the same as his legend, except in his summoning he became even more androgynous so he started dressing like a girl for fun and because he likes cute things.

Overrated? Sure. But for a coomer like me that has 189 Gb of SFM animations, good enough for me.

/thread

She would never abandon you and try to protect you instead of you going out to fight.

Indeed.

It would be adorable.

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nigger

Hollow/Ataraxia

she's not even human

>Okay, he's a crossdressing faggot twink. Better?
Yes that's better. Trap would suffice as well.

sure my man, let me hook you up

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c000mebrain

Secondaries are like, the worst seriously.

>straight male gets a magic female/trap body
>embraces it while still mentally being a straight male
Japan does this a lot for some reason.

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would have preferred this with male saber t.bh
prototype is shit don't even mention it

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Because it's hot unlike mutilated, attention whore freaks.

>which is why tsukihime and KNK also had erotic content?
Possibly. I have not read far enough into KnK to know if there is anything else/more sexually explicit than the rape of that girl who twisted people, but it would not shock me if Tsukihime's sex scenes were just for sales.
>KNK was a novel so you can't even argue that there was some unspoken rule that VN's at the time had to have sexy content to sell
I honestly have no idea what point you are trying to communicate here. I agree, KnK's format has nothing to do with Fate's format. And?
>tokimeki memorial
Irrelevant. Tokimeki was released in '94 and FSN in '04. Markets and audiences change over the course of a decade, especially when they had already shown they as a company could sell eroge like Tsukihime.

Fate had been written by Nasu as a novel while he was still in high school, well before Type-Moon had been established to publish KnK and later Tsukihime. Perhaps the success of those two was part of the basis of why they decided that Fate needed sex scenes? Regardless, they made the decision to fundamentally change existing work for the sake of sales.

But prototype is untranslated as I know

Thanks Takeuchi you faggot.

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I wish they’d start writing more HGWs again, with different Servants. Someone like Nightingale would be interesting to have; they’re in a battle royale, and her NP is all about forcing people to STOP fighting. Add to that her Berserker madness making her prioritize helping people over killing them, and I wanna see what happens when she interacts with her Master, whoever she is.

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Kinda wish someone attempted to rewrite the VN and cut out all the fluff. I'd probably give it a reread.

Itt. I don't think anyone here has actually played Extra.

>muh traps
It's up there with apache helicopter jokes, it's such a dumb and overused term now and generally spouted by closet gays that hate trans ppl

You're both right.

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Whichever unlocks Taiga and Ilya in an onsen because it means you finally fully finished the fucking game.

>15 years later and he's still pumping out clones

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EOP, don't tell me you didn't read Notes and Prototype...

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The original protag wasn't female Shirou though

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shut the fuck up

Notes is translated for decades.
Same for DDD

>muh plot
If you read a hentai game for anything other than jacking off you're doing it wrong faggot.

Nobody reads all 50+ hours for the fucking porn of all things. Not only does it not look particularly good, it's not even voiced

Those returning concepts were better before being mixed in with the retarded lore of GO.

fujo trash

How would an Illya route actually play out? She's dead in 365 days after the HGW ends, no matter what. Her romance with Shirou would be doomed from the start.

Unironically and objectively: With Umuwank.

Do you remember at the beginning when she actually expressed some remorse for having lived her life as an evil shitbag? BECAUSE TYPEMOON SURE AS HELL DOESN'T.

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EASY bait

how do you post empty pictures and empty posts?

>there's a timeline where shirou is the most popular girl and has a dozen clones and spinoffs

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>Nobody reads all 50+ hours for the fucking porn of all things
All the incels in this thread sure do

Jesus christ neck yourself. Holy Grail Wars is literally all they fucking do. I'm so fucking tired of the same fucking contrived plot around the HGW, it needs to fucking stop. Fucking hold Nasu at gunpoint and make him write anything else that isn't more waifu servants pandering.

I can't see Illya route happening. HF finish all themes of FSN. Butchering HF route?

そうですね

that's easy

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Nero is everything wrong with current TM.
What an atrociously bad character.

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Seething

I wouldn't mind seeing Bedivere in a HGW, the dude's earned some recognition.

I've beaten it twice, Saber on Rani Route and Caster on Rin Route. But I haven't actually said anything about it in this thread so far. Gameplay's kinda meh and gimmicky but the ideas of gathering information about your opponent's servant in a 1v1 format AND your Servant being someone ashamed by their True Name and hiding it from you at first was pretty sick. Very satisfying to finally unlock their Noble Phantasm and watch them go nuts.

Honestly I think Extra is the Fate Work that has come the closest to the feeling I crave of having a Servant companion through a series of battles in a HGW and developing a bond through that HGW. I hope one day a Fate work is released that captures this feeling.

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...

>Fucking hold Nasu at gunpoint and make him write anything else that isn't more waifu servants pandering.
No thanks. Forcing author to write something he doesn't want is same way how corporations milking their AA/AAA games. The work will be hot garbage

That's the problem with Prototype, girl ain't Shirou enough. Hell, I'm more interested in the version of her from Strange Fake.

It would be fantastic and we'll never see it.

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only edgy kids still use it in 2019, you rarely see it outside of chan culture.

I'm so confused why people say it's the worst thing in fate. Honestly Fate/Extella was the beginning to the end.

That's literally what FGO is.

Fate was a mistake

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No it doesn't? Where's your evidence?

She wasn't even bad in Extra itself, she became a parody of herself in all future works.

When it became an Eroge instead of an Otome.

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I wish there was more Angra and Bazett art so I could stop being disappointed when all the pics people post are pics that I already saved
It's not fair, why aren't they both the most popualr characters in the series
Why does nobody remember them when talking about the best main characters in all VNs

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Ayaka a shit

Maybe Hollow Ataraxia will get animated someday

Not necessarily an ending but I feel like this entire sequence was the apex of the VN, I don't think anything Type Moon did or still does will ever top this moment since they're too far into garbage OCs to ever make something this original and fresh again.

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It hurts to know we'll never, ever get to see more from the best girl in the nasuverse.

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It continued after FHA and pussied out of choosing a canon route which should have been Fate

Nah FGO is okay. Entertaining epic fantasy. FGO lore/story/cosmology discussions are fun. Would work better as some kind of story heavy MMO. Like XIV or TORtanic

fate series has gotten away from me. last games were gacha shit and dynasty warriors which I don't play. give me another crappy rpg or fighting game, I actually play those

that's what happens when you get killed offscreen in the vn.

Many options on how to handle that.
>1. Her short lifespan is acknowledged early and one of the plot points of the route is finding her a new/stable body.
>2. She sacrifices herself like in HF.
>3. Not addressed much, it's just implied that Illya wants to spend her remaining lifespan with the person she loves as both a brother and a man.
Or some combination of those in different endings, like the good ending is where Illya gets a new body but the true ending is where she sacrifices herself to protect Shriou and end the HGW forever.

no wahmen allowed

Because most people are filthy secondaries who don't even know F/HA, AKA the best Fate work, exists.

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neck yourself fag

It's better this way, do you really want to see Nasu butcher her?

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Jesus, gachafags are delusional.

I want her back.

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>FGO is okay
HA!

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the entire point of the original F/SN was that the HGW is retarded and a scam and the 5th in particular reads like a huge deconstruction of something like fate zero despite being the one that came out first because nobody is actually following any of the rules and instead of this dumb chunni anime fight the story is actually about the feelings and decisions of a handful of mentally ill people contrasting over the superman fighting stuff

Purest cinnamon roll, too good for this world.

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Isn't she in FGO already? Same with KNK cast.

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Go back to your discord. Traps are a completely different concept and no one will ever want to touch your mutilated axe wound. Traps also pass as girls without much effort by their very definition while you mental cases need to shame people into using your pronouns because you're still a man under the clown mask.

please look forward to the Fate Battle Royal video game where 100 servants fight for the holy grail

Sorry I don't play gacha. But don't waste time. Discussion with user who hates FGO is daunting slog. I had it thousand times. Nothing interesting.

>I wanna fuck a dude in the pussy
>NO TRANNIES REEEEEEEE

Fate/Extra?

>that pic
Probably not. Jesus. Even after all these years, I still remember how I felt at that moment in the game. In any case, they kind of butchered her already with the redesign for the remake. Not that it'll ever come out.

Ayaka is the only true Fate protagonist.
Shirou a shit!

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This is great idea. Especially with good balanced deep combat.

>we will never see the timeline where we got Girl's Work
>we will never see the timeline where we got Apocrypha rather than GO
>we will never see the timeline where tangentially TM anime like Canaan and Zvezda got S2s
>we will never get more DDD
>Satsujinki VN never
>Imoutohime never
>Remake never

i don't get how people like it, i've done the first 4-5 singularities and it's just boring. FS/N had me completely hooked in the first few lines of shirou's introduction

Explain Fate Apocrypha, then. The Grail there seems to work exactly as intended

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>Isn't she in FGO already?
No?

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That was actually 128 so it could halve evenly over the weeks. This 100 would have to be

>Talking shit about Shirou "Mind of Steel" Emiya
Begone.

>Satsujinki VN never
Do you really want Satsujinki VN? Shiki's story is over. Shiki's ability is not fun for fights. And he should be powered up.

That grail wasn't tainted by an angry manjew which is why it worked

The difference is that Cagliostro is actually female and has functional biology. Trannies wouldn't be hated if they actually looked and functioned like girls. The contrast between the overwhelming cuteness and the haughty old man persona is what makes Cag interesting.

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>Girl's Work
Damn, I had completely forgotten about that.

Screenshotted for every time some dipshit says loli isn't pedophilia

>He doesn't even know lore as basic as that
Apocrypha takes place in an alternate timeline where the Einzberns summoned Ruler instead of Avenger and a dude straight up stole the grail with the help of Nazis. Since Avenger wasn't summoned it didn't corrupt the grail and turn the HGW into the scam it became.

Hell, do you actually know what the Holy Grail and the Holy Grail War were created for?

>talking about a 2D character
>literally lines on paper
>REEE YOU'RE A PEDO
every time, go the fuck back to where you came from

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I'm not playing it so I have no way of knowing.

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Fuck off, Nasu.

Shirou is a boring protagonist and is carried solely by plot armor in every route aside from maybe HF

>FGO is okay
Spoken like a true tertiary.

>discord everywhere
>Resetara everywhere
>reddit use Yea Forums as toilet
>mods are fired
>other mods are insane and killing the boards

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20 bucks says he doesn't actually know about the root, user.

>I want to put my penis in this underage characters vagina
>I-i-its just a drawing officer
>I'm not a pedophile I swear I just like masturbating to drawings of children officer

dumb fat fujo poster

Probably doesn't even know what Heavens Feel even is

>explain this spinoff bullshit that came out after that ignores all the actual themes of f/sn for WOW COOL ANIME BATTLES

thank you for proving my point wholesale

> Traps are a completely different concept
but they arent though, trap/tran used to be synonyms with one another on Yea Forums for AGES. See baily jay and guess what, all these old school ''traps'' now rabidly hate the term for good reason.

I'm not playing it either. No way I'm ever supporting that garbage. I only fap to the doujins if something nice comes out.

I'm not. Why do you think someone who likes FGO is always tertiary?

>angry manjew
im laughing for real right now

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actually, if you have searched pics or info about the fate character it affects your browser history, same whit nero and other historical figures, try searching on a brand new pc or one where you are completely sure they have never searched something related to fate.

Please, keep supporting FGO so that I never have to work another day in my life. Thank you.

When FGO is dying, hopefully soon, Nasu will make the Tsukihime Remake that has story changes in addition to everyone now being a Saberface. The story changes will make it so that it is in some way related to FGO. Once this is done they'll offshore all the Tsukihime characters into FGO as a desperate bid to stay relevant.

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is this your first fate thread?
he has been called that for ages

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>look at all this bullshit I just made up
your discord, go back to it

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Nobody who seriously likes FGO really likes Fate as a franchise. They just want Servantwank. And I don't mind Servantwank, but that's not solely why people got into Fate initially

No.

That's been his fan name since Yea Forums existed

Does masturbating to a drawing of two dudes going to town on eachother make you gay?

you're obviously a newfag then, bailey jay is literally the original ''trap'' and was constantly referred to as one even though she was trans. Why so disingenuous?

>Nasu will make the Tsukihime Remake
fuck that he should make a new original story within the universe
FUCKSHITHIME

>trap/tran used to be synonyms with one another on Yea Forums for AGES
factually wrong, nigga

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WHERE YOU GET THA INFO FROM?

oh, :))

>Having the audacity to lie on the internet
How could you do such a thing?

I bet he's barely even heard of the term Third Magic.

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Lolis are nothing like 3D children, welcome to the entire concept of fiction and the endless possibility of human imagination. I really do hope you never play any violent video games, your grip on reality is so fragile I'm afraid you'll go on a mass shooting spree.

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there's really no point in arguing this
the revision already went through; there's no convincing them that trap just means "dude that looks like girl well enough to convince you"

I never really browse fate threads because they're a fucking cesspool of degenerates

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thanks doc

>seriously arguing with those retards
Don't waste your time.

feels bad,

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You can just use the more appropriate terms like ''otokonoko'' if you need some unique term to use. It's not like ''crossdresser'' exists or something.

I don't mind, the thread is already full of these retards and I get to post cute fate lolis.

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Yaoi isn't anything like real life either but if you fap to two guys going at it it's still gay you retard

>dead, corrupted mommy
>abandoned by daddy
>family even misleads her into believing so
>dead corrupted mommy convinces her to seek revenge
>summons a Greek demigod to be her new daddy, the STRONGEST servant
>easily overwhelmed by some dickhead who is literally an anomaly, a completely bullshit fluke that nobody could have predicted
>dies like a bitch and has her beating heart ripped from her chest, to become a plot device
Illya had a hard life.

It shows.

This logic makes no sense. I read FSN long ago and not in honeymoon phase. You can enjoy things for different reasons. They should not be same. Even Tsuki and FSN are very different. I hated Extra on release but with time I become more open to changes. Hard to explain. There is urban mystery and more epic fantasy. I can like both. No mystery? Well whatever. Nasu burned out with Mahoyo/Remake. You can't force him to write, but you can clearly see why he likes FGO.

It is more specific.
Any guy with a beard can put on a dress and be called a crossdresser. Traps are about the cute body as well as the wearing of female clothes.

the thing is that trap has nothing to do with the person in question and everything to do with your perception of them
trannies can be traps
crossdressers can be traps
the point is that YOU don't know that it's actually a dude with a dick until you hit the big show and get poked in the eye
you fell into a trap

Carry on then.

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>Where did Fate go wrong?

Fate was garbage from the start. FGO monetized the only aspect of it that could appeal to everyone.

Story is garbage, but at least there's no middle school-tier writing about mystical cumswap magic with retard doodles on top.

Stop putting this embarrassment on a pedestal when even the creator knows he should distance himself from this trash

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We're talking about different concepts though. Liking lolis really just boils down to liking cute and feminine things. Liking traditional yaoi means you like masculine things or bishounen.
There are thousands of lolis out there with proportions, features and personalities that literally don't belong on human beings, never mind children.

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You know, user, with great tastes comes great responsibility. Hideaki Anno called it "The Waifufag's Burden." Myself, I just call it as I see it: the responsibility of the straight normal guy to discipline the degenerates.

*Looks directly at the camera.*

The lolicriminals, the yuribitches, the yaoilosers...It's our responsibility to civilize them. And if we can't? Then they shall dangle from the elm tree. The Day of the Rope is near, senpai. We'll have every pedo, faggot and dyke in this community dead or in chains in 10 years, and may God took away my Saber dakimakuras this very night if I'm wrong."

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>tfw ibaraki has barely any art

Spoken like a true retard

>mfw
Avenger didn't die for this.

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When they decided Taiga wouldn't get her own route.

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>dead corrupted mommy convinces her to seek revenge
secondarybro...

FSN would've been much better if the MC was a girl.

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She's getting more in the last few months, I think her summer version kicked off a second wave of interest. She's also softer and more approachable in this version so it's not just hardcore monster girl fags that are into her.

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Sure
Right
Tell that to this guy

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based VN coombrain

>Hard to explain.
Let me help you.
You're don't have shit taste, no.
You have no taste. Which is arguably even worse.
You're unable to see or just don't care how bad the thing is, you'll gobble it up anyway because it slightly caters the urban mystery clique you like and ask for refill right after.

How he would fare on a HGW?

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It never had a chance; anything after Tsukihime was destined to be considered garbage.

Because Bazett was spared from being in FGO while Angra is the rarest and weakest servant which added to the fact that he's neither strong nor a cute girl means nobody wants to make art of him.
Remember, most modern Fatefags are filthy secondaries and tertiaries who only know Hollow Ataraxia exists from the recent manga adaptation announcement

It exists

Prisma Illya, I can't even recommend Fate Zero know Prisma illya is it's direct sequel.

FLATTER THAN ILLYA

By not making Mordred and Kairi the main characters of Apocrypha.

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he's probably already in the root before the war starts

Just tie him to his seat.

and thats a good thing

Are you really sure about that?

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Spin-Off.
The main timeline has the Einzberns be so obsessed with winning they tried summoning Angra Mainyu as the ultimate evil, thinking he would be the most powerful servant. Then he came out weak as shit, died and ended up tainting the grail.
Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Zero are the result of one family being fucking idiots.

His SMTIV form? He's literally stronger than God, as in capital G, YHVH from Judeo-Christian mythology. Though the relationship between SMT's gods/demons and humans is complicated, in many ways humans created YHVH and not the other way around.
Anyways, he's on or above the level of a Type like Ort, servants would be no challenge to him. He could face tank Ea like it's a breeze.

>Liking traditional yaoi means you like masculine things or bishounen.
This is false.
Yaoi character are really feminine. Like REALLY feminine. There's a distinction made between Yaoi and Bara for a reason, user.

I dont mind sfw loli, but youre being dishonest. 2d loli still is depicting children and if you sexualise this you are somewhat pedoish. Im talking 2d depicting actual kids though, not petite women.

Sure, we're done as long as he doesn't stand up.

Shirou

I want Arcueid to keep the long-skirt.

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fine
I meant fine.

You'll take your short skirt saberface and like it you stupid whale.

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>You have no taste
Not possible. I hate Extella after all. You probably just overthink and trying to find reason why every TM fan should hate FGO. There is no such rule. While some people hate FGO other like it. And not only newfags. Old TM fans. Japanese one who bought first Tsuki release. And FGO is epic fantasy. There is no mystery like in DDD/KnK/Tsuki/FSN.

then they just say it's a 1000yo vampire girl

>whale
>paying for a vn

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>yfw you'll never get to marry Taiga, have enough kids to field a baseball team and grow old together, having enjoyed a long and fulfilling life filled with happiness

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>Gudao has not succeeded in turning one male servant gay except for Astolfo, who was a whore to begin with
>every female servant in the entire game, even those who've been married and had children, is dyking out on Gudako
How does she work?

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Considering that Alaya is constantly trying buttfuck mankind, and Mages are stupid as fuck and selfish.

He probably would be looking to fuck over both because mankind would be better without their influnce.

Too bad, Fate writers are a bunch of hacks and can't do anything but run of mill magus petty fights.

based

If this is still about Illya, her body looks that way in Fate/Stay Night because she's artificial like Irisviel before her but she had less time to cook before they locked her away in a snow castle to prepare for the next HGW. It's awkward because Prisma Illya Illya ends up in way more sexualized situations but is the actual age she appears to be due to being the biological child of Irisviel and Kiritsugu. So you have two Illyas that look similar but one's childishness is in part a facade and a desperation to live a childhood she basically couldn't and the other is an actual child because in that timeline Kiritsugu never killed her and Irisviel.
So the pedophilia claims towards lolicon content do technically work in this context but at the same time if an Illya route did exist, she'd technically be the pedophile because Shirou's only 16.
Good thing they're color coded.

saber

Actually Stephen while he's sitting down is still as strong as every SMT protagonist put together and a literal godslayer with endgame demons. It's just that he can go even further beyond by standing up and showing off that he's not just a Stephen Hawking allegory anymore.
Motherfucker transcended his own humanity a long time ago but still has all the perks of being a SMT human.

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God exist in Nasuverse you know?

Reminder she's the daughter of a Yakuza boss, so you'd have to prove your worth to him to marry her.

According to Nasu, yeah record scratch do exist well as other gods.

Whatever if he is just world bitch or something nobody knows since he is a pussy to write about it.

Ahh, you're baiting, I see.
Very clever. Tricked me into a couple of replies.

Play Ataraxia
Play Tsukihime and Kagetsu Tohya
Watch/Read Kara No Kyoukai
Play Melty Blood
Watch Carnival Phantasm

And then drop Fate altogether because it downhills a double black diamond from there on.

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I still dread the day when Fate/hollow ataraxia gets an anime adaptation and all the secondaries flood on top of it..
I don't want those cancer cells sticking to the best Fate story and talking a bunch of shit they don't understand.

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>Reminder she's the daughter of a Yakuza boss
Wasn't her grandfather the boss? Anyways, I'd show him how much I love her even if it kills me.

Baiting? Where? Are you implying all odlfags hate FGO like some hivemind? This is nonsense. Or you don't believe me that I tmfag? Well I can answer your questions about DDD since no one even read DDD outside 3,5 anons.

Everything after CCC that's not an adaptation of material created before it like Prisma is trash, with Emiya-san Chi being the only exception.
FGO is good for the loli porn it generates and absolutely nothing else.

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astolfo is a shit tranny
your series is for pedos and trannies
congrats

>a lot of historical women
women do not do things that matter. marie curie was a lab assistant. you know who gave marie curie her doctorate? the guy that was nailing her.

I'm gonna watch Fate/Zero after all these years because the food anime was so good that made me again into Fate stuff after that awful Fate/stay night - Unlimited Blade Works 2010 movie. Wish me luck.

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Watch the UBW movies, then the Heaven's Feel movies first user. Zero spoils a lot of the best twists in HF since Urobuchi is a hack.

>loads of new Angra/Bazett art
sing me up, I don't care how shit the new fans or discussion are
The only part I will regret is no longer being able to instantly judge the taste of someone and primary/secondary status over if they like HA/Angra/Bazett
At least Taiga will remain the eternal good taste/primary test since she will never be popular

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Zero is pretty good. Watch ufotable's UBW and HF after you finish it.

user, underage girl is loli according to law.
95% of girls in japanese media are underage.
If you want to fuck picrelated you're pedo

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Hollow Ataraxia
The resf of the Fate/EU (extended universe) is so jarringly different from Stay/Night that I honestly don't know if I'm just misremembering it

Based Taneda of Truth.

Grand Mashu will always be right.

>that artstyle

it was unfappable then and its unfappable now

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Ok I should start searching for them then, thanks

onions mc

>implying

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how did the dog killer looked like?
side note: even if you answer this you're still a nigger for liking nu-tm

It still ticks me off how retards act like FSN was some kind of hardcore nukige on par with stuff like Taimanin or bible black.

based seigi no mikata

>Watch the UBW movies
He meant UBW TV series

Cause they haven't read it. At least they can be exposed as retards though

>Zero spoils a lot of the best twists in HF since Urobuchi is a hack.

Zero is a prequel, it's not spoiling anything, it was just made to be read after one finished the original VN.

>anons dreamed about F/Z anime adaptation, HF adaptation and proper UBW/Fate adaptations for years
>F/Z was announced
>it's popular
>Yea Forums shits on it
>same story with UBW and even HF
You're faggots. Answering secondaries questions is best time. You can show off knowledge. Do you even wakachan?

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You don't understand how to greentext.

Can Skip UBW TV remake and go for the Heavens Feel movies directly before Zero? Watching 25 episodes again of Stay is kinda pain in the ass...

the adaptation was good though, it's just that zero is a shit story because Urobuchi is a hack
Also the zero adaptation is to blame for the sad state of type moon, without it and UBW FGO would have died before it got out of hand

Literally who does that? I've never seen anyone who claimed something like that.

No. Watch the UBW series. It's good

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Ok... I ended with 50 episodes and 2 hours anime... dammit.
But everything must be done for pleasing one of my old favorite waifus, Taiga

The issue is that secondaries aren't asking questions, they're acting like they know everything they need.
The types of faggots that claim Shirou is a bad protagonist while praising Fate/Zero for being "Dark and Mature".
Also concerning your pic, Season 2 of One Punch Man was shit because it was given to a studio that simply wasn't putting in as well a work as Madhouse did while Mob Psycho was consistently good cause BONES put a lot of passion into both seasons.

Yea Forums shits on secondaries. The adaptation itself was probably the best people could hope for minus the CGI stuff, the problem was Zero brought in a lot of people who didn't know about FSN and were questioning everything that was expained in FSN, it's how the term secondaries got so popular in the first place.

UBW and HF have pacing and adaptation issues. It's still probably the best we were gonna get especially considering HF is movies

I definitely do not deny Yea Forums has a problem with once something gets adapted and gets popular, they need to shit on it. That's really terrible, but at least understand what people shit on

>Also concerning your pic, Season 2 of One Punch Man was shit
user, look at the year of that post.

KYS FATENIGGERS FATE WAS NEVER GOOD
BACK TO YOUR GENERAL
SPECIALLY YOU GAS YOURSELF

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Ton of people assume that VN with h scene = nukige.

Which is even more stupid since Fate have been neutered since first adaptation and HA.

Like a /jp/ poster. He ate them actually as I remember. I thought you will ask something about based madman.

Yeah I saw, and that pic is right, but at the same time, a valid complaint now exists for OPM's anime beyond contrarionism.

Yeah, but the point is the post was predicting how Yea Forums would react to OPM S1 actually being a good adaptation and it was totally right.

I'd also like to note OPM S2 was way less popular than S1 so while it's fun to shit on it, it's like beating a dead horse over there

>Taiga
Very good taste.

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Still right. OPM S2 was AIDS

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>Literally who does that?
Are you reading this thread? It happens all the time in Fate/Type-Moon threads

>"neutered since first adaptation and HA"
Yeah I really felt the H-Scene where Angra rapes Caren despite her not wanting to accidentally impale him due her anti-demon pop-out knives was really neutered.
Besides, who fucking read Type-Moon for the awkwardly written H-Scenes?

>young Taiga

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never ever

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its harder to google

It was amazing watching Yea Forums turn on SAO. It went from basically the most recommended LN on Yea Forums to the biggest piece of shit anime and LN ever made

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Taiga is for pure.

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>2 years worth of semen....

Nah, Yea Forums never really liked SAO.

I AM THE BONE OF MY SWORD

That isn’t mind of steel

>tfw ilya is my ally no matter what

God what makes this pic so full of soul

>God what makes this pic so full of soul
The bittersweet memories.

Takeuchi CGs have a soul bonus if they feature a window or Akiha

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Formalhaunt chapter has jihad with kids. Doubt you can google this.
>still no DDD ova
Shinbo can handle Hands

no illya route

You serious nigger?

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SAO is clearly more loved right now. Story quality of last adaptation is much better objectively.

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>It went from basically the most recommended LN on Yea Forums
This 100% was never the case. The 2 years worth of semen thing was always following the series and it sounded like a bad ripoff of .hack.

What is the lore of this 2 years worth of semen thing?

docs.google.com/file/d/0BwyW7ZpWYsQBaThmR0Foa2ZfOG8/edit

>"I could feel my hot sperm gushing deep into Asuna as she trembled in yet another climax. Two years worth of semen made a glopping noise as it flowed endlessly into Asuna. Every time my penis twitched, fireworks would go off in my head."

Author wrote official fanfic.

>official
So this docs.google.com/file/d/0BwyW7ZpWYsQBaThmR0Foa2ZfOG8/edit is canon?

Chapter 17.5 I believe.

absolutely based and completely redpilled

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>hurr im da real fate fan fucking returds who dun get how deep and great muh porn game is
kys

What were the special circumstances?

You're proving my point here lad

FSN production ran too long and they ran out of time for the Illya route (and maybe Rider route, I think that was never confirmed) so it all got mixed into Heaven's Feel

I still love it.

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Thanks for the info

wait, I don't get it, you began with zero?

If so, it doesn't matter what you do because you already fucked up

They deserved better.

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Officially not. But it is really fanfic written by author. Someone believe LN was censored and sex happened behind the scenes.

bro you need like 35 episodes for a good hollow ataraxia adaptation

there's so much fun shit on it I just need it for my Fate life to be complete

>watching anime is pain in ass
What

This never happened with SAO, stop with the lies you fucking nigger.

I literally remember EVERY single LN thread wouldn't go without someone praising SAO and how you don't know shit about LNs until you read it.

is melty blood considered fate? if yes, then after that

Cunny

>Carnival Phantasm
How is this any different from shit like Fate GO?

The opening is bretty gud. Just watch that.

What's wrong with it? It's just fun comedy vignettes with Type-Moon characters.

not enough cute and funny characters

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It's the same kind of stuff people freak out at post-ha fate for

Same for Melty Blood, KT, HA. But old gud new bad.

Which is exactly what makes them hypocritical Nostalgiafags who refuse to acknowledge the nonsensical and silly side Type-Moon and Nasu has always loved doing

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Who doesn't acknowledge nonsensical and silly Type-Moon? There's a difference between something like Carnival Phantasm, Emiya-san chi and something like GO

Explain the similarities.

it was always shit and this mobile garbage iteration where nobody pretends otherwise might be the best because of the focus on fanart

When it got involved in lolicon too much and Grand Order. The main problem is that it prevents Tsukihime from getting a proper anime adaptation along with Melty Blood.

Same goes for future Tsukihime and Melty Blood games.

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>The main problem is that it prevents Tsukihime from getting a proper anime adaptation along with Melty Blood.
Can we be really sure it would have gotten one though even without GO?

Tsikihime will not have adaptation until remake release. It is full rewriting. At this point you better to learn japanese since no one will translate remake. This year is 20 years anniversary for Tsuki so yeah high hopes for news

Absolutely not. Look at Mahoyo.

>people talking about fate instead of pedobait posting
wow, thats a first

From the start. Shit art and shit writing that fills me with murderous intent.

People don't hate new stuff because its nonsensical and silly, they hate it because it's generic, relies too much on fan service, is a goddamned gacha, focuses too much on the Servants, and because it ignores everything that made the old stuff good.

Loli was big before Fate even existed you retard. In fact, Len has the best H-scenes Nasu ever wrote.

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Mahoyo has no problems in any way.

I still think it could have used voices.

I still think it is fine without.

you called?

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No problem? It's 10-14 hours long kinetic VN. First part of "trilogy" for full price. 4 years in development.

I didn't know Raimi was a fan of Nasu

Why is she so sad? Is it having to look at the state of Fate?

Full price is a mistake, and the development was very unfortunate.
Of course having the other works out would be nice, but the first part itself is fine.

IT'S LIKE ONE OF MY BRONZE AGE FAIRYTALES

>youtube faggots make 2 hour long essays on SAO and why they hate kirito even breathing for more than two seconds
>everyone joins the bandwagon

Everything is good until a faggot on YouTube makes a video "essay" on why it isn't. People are still parroting that DS2 video 5 years later.

Based Lenposter.