Based

>d-don't wait to buy the 3950X! don't!!! fucking stop!!!!!!!!

arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/09/weakness-in-intel-chips-lets-researchers-steal-encrypted-ssh-keystrokes/?comments=1

:(

t. chinks

It gets like 3 fps more than an i5 9600k at 1440p. lol

A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON

I love how all their performance tricks are ridiculous security vulnerabilities.

There isn't even a car or food analogy for this level of stupidity. It is uniquely Intel.

3700x owner here,
I concede that the 9700k and 9900k are superior for gaming, but it feels good being able to productivity at the speed of light.

>People should also be aware that disabling DDIO comes at a significant performance cost. So far as the researchers know, chips from AMD and other manufacturers aren't vulnerable because they don't store networking data on shared CPU caches.
>store networking data on shared CPU caches
OH NO NO NO NO
AHAHAHAHAHA

I'm going to wait to upgrade next year when the new console generation starts and devs start using more

They thought they were more clever then anyone else. But in reality they were more retarded then anyone else.

Has anyone calculated total performance cost by all these security holes?

INTEL
30 VUNLERABILITIES
arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/09/weakness-in-intel-chips-lets-researchers-steal-encrypted-ssh-keystrokes/

What the fuck is this meme, i9 lol, i5 2500k is still enough for gaming

this, if the PS5 is as powerful as speculated then maybe devs might adopt 120fps as standard, imagine what games on PC will be capable of know that it's gaining popularity again.

Retard. Maybe for low settings/sub-1080p.

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>i5
>ever

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Intel is sweating becouse they are loosing market share and now try to force their exspencive cpus to stupids zoomers.

cringe

>ps5 trying to implement ray tracing, 4k muh graphics
Consoles will still be ass sub 60fps movies and devs will still be lazy at optimization.

>Buying Intel in 2019
lol

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>10% better performance at best
>Double the price
Yeah okay

brainlet here
what noticeable differences would you see in upgrading a cpu?

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No fucking way, devs will push toward true 4k before 120fps.

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They've lost the server market and are losing ground in workstations / pro segments.
All that's left is prosumers and gaymers. Gotta hawk those server chips to someone who probably won't care about the security holes.

Depend what you are doing whit PC and if your CPU is bottleneck or not in your pc. At least it should make everything smoother, if its botlenecking GPU then difference could be huge.

9900k is the same price as 3900x.

im sssssssorry

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helo,

u wuold see improvemnt of frames

ok

Built my comp in 2015, got an i7 32gigs of ddr4 ram 980ti graphics card running windows 8.1. Is it time to upgrade?

lol

if your current cpu is fairly recent (like 1 or 2 generations) then you probably won't see that much of a performance increase. The gpu is usually the bigger priority when it comes to bottlenecks.

>tfw using fx8350
just as outdated as the day I bought it

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Pretty sure he's referring to the 3600

They deserve to lose server market, how many milions they have cost last two years to servers? Every security hole has hit hardest server side. wasnt there someone claiming they lost something like 30% of computing power of their servers?

Same this workstations, Ryzen 2xxx and 3xxxx are just way too cheap for turn down. Intel has done this to themself.

nice snake poster

I'm fine with my i5 9400f desu

>running windows 8.1
Lol retard that's Windows 10 with worse support

raytracing cores will take care of that
plus 90% of normies have no ability to even realise the signal processing their TVs do so even 60fps is mostly a pointless goal

extra cores means computer can do stuff at once
extra threads means processor power is used efficently (you don't always want this but it's always nice to have that option)
I don't need to explain what more mhz means

if your CPU has less than 4 cores and less than 3 ghz your processor is not optimal for modern gaems

Fuck off back to plebbit.

Still got mine, heard Zen 3 will have 4 threads per core, that'll be cool if it happens.

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My 7600k still runs everything I want, my last cpu was the q6600 it was a wonderful cpu

dumb cat poster

What's wrong with The i5?
Asking for a friend.

>Asking for a friend
are you, really?

>Q6600
>baseclock at 2.4Ghz
>overclocks nearly 1Ghz to 3.2 stable on air
What an absolute specimen of a processor.

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>7/7/19
kek, Intcel is getting desperate.

it's still the best to this day, and it's getting stronger
anandtech.com/show/14837/intel-core-i99900ks-5-ghz-on-all-cores-launches-next-month

This will never happen.
Western shitter devs are subhuman GRAFIXXX whores who will push for silky smooth 24fps 4k cinematic walking simulators you can watch on youtube.

hahaha, no.
gpus are the single most limiting factor when it comes to games today.
you don't need $800 Intcel shit to run your vidya at 144fps anymore.

>paying for a housfire
exactly what gaymers deserv

What do you use your PC for?

>dont want to buy AMD because shit performance
>dont want to buy intel because security leaks and house fires

why isnt there a third company to buy products from?

>p-p-p-please ignore AMD having the better CPUs for atleast two years while we try to shit out our 10nm
Fucking desperate, and I have a Intel CPU.

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>>dont want to buy AMD because shit performance
You mean max 3-5% less performance in games, expected to lessen as more games take more use of multiple cores and threads while 15-20% more performance in non-gaming tasks?

Intel isn't unique in this regard.

They are only different in that they admit to the security vulnerabilities and provide instructions to remove them, which AMD, Apple, etc. don't.

got any examples of that?

Third parties find those security vulnerabilities, not Intel. Intel has to admit to them because they have no other choice. Quit shilling.

>You mean max 3-5% less performance in games
>buy new product, get less performance

yeah, that sounds fucking great. doesnt matter if its a small percentage. i should be getting more performance, not less.

You have less performance when you directly compare Ryzen to 9000k intel, but when you also compare prices, you definitely see that Ryzen gives you more value while paying way less.

>doesnt matter if its a small percentage. i should be getting more performance, not less.
Compared to Intel's processors of the same pricepoint. Zen 2 has a 15-20% increase in gaming performance compared to Zen 1+.

>I have an 8700k, friend has Ryzen 2000smth
>we compare some benchmarks
>Gears 5 benchmark shows he has a fuckton of microstutter caused by the CPU

AMD will forever be trash for poorfags

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>3-5% less performance in games
Try 17%

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>PC Gamer

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Did they fix their shitty thermal paste?

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This is something GayMads will never mention. The fucking stutter.

Fix their thermal paste? WTF are you talking about? There isn't any thermal paste on a CPU when you buy it. You apply it after you install it, consolepleb.

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Gears 5 runs as smooth as butter on my 3900X :)

>we're the best. we do that thing you like best. buy our product

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>be a good goy and get your Intel

nice fake news

How new are you? Intel has been using thermal paste instead of solder for the heatspreader since Ivy Bridge, which has only recently become a real problem because the processors are as hot as the sun.
Overclockable K-models have soldered heatspreader on 9th gen, others still have that shitty thermal paste.

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just keep your mouth next time you think you know more than someone else

>I-i-it's fake
By the way, they used a stock cooler for the 3900X and a AIO liquid cooler for the i9.
techspot.com/review/1877-core-i9-9900k-vs-ryzen-9-3900x/

Oh you dumb faggots are talking about the TIM. Die in a house fire.
They are soldered now.

Nobody cares about those "under scientific conditions" shit, this is Yea Forums

>3950x launching soon
>Intel suddenly starts an ad blitz about having 5% better gaming performance in their i9 9900k than the 3900x (Not mentioning motherboard prices, ofc) and has to drop all prices across the board, suddenly offers F series without integrated GPU's

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The absolute biggest cope on the planet.

Go look up more research on this. Maybe you already made your bad decision and want to justify it. The 9700/9900 are 14-17% ahead still as an average. This is more to do with games being tested consistently on Intel while AMD rarely gets that benefit.

Games going forward won't magically start using more cores anytime soon. When the curve of more users is above quad core we might see it, currently a huge amount of pc gamers have quad core, 8gb of ram, and 1080p or lower.

so for those guys who are determined to still get Intel and don't want Amd for whatever reason, are you getting 9th gen or waiting for Comet Lake 10th gen in Q1 2020?

Intel and Nvidia are Jewish as fuck but their components are priced better, function better, run at lower temps and rarely, if ever, have compliance issues with other hardware or software. I love amd and what they do, truly, but they are simply inferior in product design, for gaming at least.

Only the K-models are soldered you dumb fuck

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Maybe he uses his PC for something more than playing vidya?

>Die in a house fire
After you :)

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isnt comet lake just for laptops and mobile shit anyway picking up a 9700k and not upgrading for like + years shit today STILL doesnt use more than 1-2 processors

Nothing. In most cases, it's your go-to line if you want to build your machine around Intel.

>expensive consumerist crap that provides no significant value
>buy it you shmucks
Intel is the Apple of CPU manufacturers. There can be no significant increase in computing power until devs actually start optimizing for these CPUs.
Meanwhile, devs optimize for consoles and do "passable" optimization for PCs.

It's only 5% ahead on average.

I haven't had to upgrade for years since I did a rebuild. Last thing I changed out was a 980ti that rattled with a 1070ti super clocked. I'm overclocking a i5 6500 to 4ghz thanks to hacked bios. I only play classic wow right now, so what I'm currently looking for is a nice 32inch 4k monitor with an IPS panel that doesn't cost $900.
I've looked at amds new board/cpus, and unless I'm mistaken you're going to pay $800 to switch to an am4 socket VS. Upgrading to like an 8600k that will run on 1155 for like $300. I might have gotten some shit wrong its been a while since I did any research.

Well nothing official has been announced about desktop comet lake 10th gen chips, just "leaked" slides saying a Q1 2020 release and potentially the i9 having 10-cores. Probably fake, who knows. The whole subject about laptop chips (comet lake & ice lake) is a different matter I'm not interested in.

We're talking about a 9900k, mouth-breather.

>intel laughing in better cpu

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i9 is a fucking waste, no game is going to use all those cores.

get an i5/i7

>le consumerist crap
I think by that you mean AMD. Intel is much more than just a company, it's a family. People who have Intel for years will be proud to tell you.

You aren't wrong. Games already look way better on a ps4 pro with a nice ass 4k HDR TV than a pc with maxed out graphics imo, all becusse of fucking optimization. And the fact that TV manufacturers have way more money to make nice tv displays than someone like Asus or BenQ. I'm pretty sure that's why there aren't any reasonably priced 4k monitors. I paid $700 for a 65inch TV that has like 500 local dimming zones. It's insane how nice of a TV you can get for cheap now, when 10 years ago the same TV would have cost $10,000

I just upgraded from an 8350 to a 3700x. Well worth it. You're kind of fooled into thinking a 5 year old chip that's supposedly 8 cores can keep up but once I upgraded I noticed that my gpu was being gimped hard by my old CPU and I only had a shitty 1060 3gb. Overall a more stable performance too so it's worth it in every regard if you can afford it.

I ditched my 3570K because the piece of shit's TIM wore out and kept overheating. Got a Ryzen and never looked back.

I have an i7 2600 from 2012 and still run every game at 60fps.

>Motehrboad + CPU = 650$ +++
based

>run at lower temps
LMAO

back to Yea Forums phoneposter

>bruh just disable spectre and meltdown protection
>bruh your games will run fine TRUST me
i fucking hate my cpu so much i wish i had a ryzen so bad fuck i hate this fuck fuck

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>IMO
Which means jack shit and your opinion is objectively wrong. Why are consoleplebs so fucking retarded?

If you want the best, pay for the best, simple.

Tell me when devs start using more then 4 cores.

What do I replace my 3770k with for 1440p gaming?

Monster Hunter World can utilize 16-cores.

The PS5 will at best match a $1000 PC from this year after obsessive console optimization that only first party devs do.

You cannot name one non-indie game that doesn't.

I have an i5-9600K, would I gain any substantial power if I upgrade to an i9-9900K?
And if not, can I at least overclock the i5 a little with a 120mm AIO?

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Buy a ryzen instead and use the money you saved on a better GPU

spend $80 on a noctua dh-15 and OC it to 5ghz

TV-producers have royaly destroyed any credibility for consumers when it comes to panel refresh rates past 60. They have sold their interpolation cancer or their light flickering rates as that for two decades.

>Buy a ryzen instead and-
No, and that has nothing to do with what I asked. Stop shilling your shit, I already have an AMD GPU.

>dude just get shit colored fans xdxd
But WHY, let's say I even want to go from liquid to air cooling, WHY does it have to be that color? HOW do they keep selling that ugly shit? They do understand most people have cases with crystal panels on the side, right?

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>money you saved
>have to buy processor and motherboard
Dumb.

Not really. You gain a bit but it's not really worth it. I also have a 9600k and it's overclocked to 4.8 on a H115i Pro. Always super low temps so I would imagine you can just enable MCE and let it go to 4.6 all day.

Black Rock Pro 4 looks better and is the same price.

>Has anyone calculated total performance cost by all these security holes?

I wonder too

I went from a 4670k to a 3700x and the difference is night and day. Everything is much smoother.

>>dude just get shit colored fans xdxd
If that's the first thing that comes into your head when comparing cooling solutions you're not even worth the (You) and should instead just kill yourself.

Its just that AMD usually has more cores. Intel has less cores. If you play a lot less cores will be better. Especially if you play older titles. Only some of the major releases will benefit from multiple cores. Nothing to do with any of your brand loyalty shit. Thats just how works.

Then why go intcel at all?

>giving a fuck about color

noctuas are regarded as the best air coolers

There are better coolers/on par for comparable prices that don't have diarhea colored fans. Why would you get something shitty looking when there are alternatives?

The D15 is the best aircooler on the market, sounds like you're going to have to cope on this one.

Thats not true.
If looking pure at gaming, intel is 10% fast for 20% more money (if you get the 9700k). Sure sometimes amd is a bit faster, but when intel is faster its by a pretty big amount.
Also, amd is not cheap anymore, a 3700x will send you back 250 whilst a 9700k will cost ya around 290.
Got a 4790k, and its still able do push my 2080ti to 100% gpu usage in almost all games.
That extra 15% performance in the 1% of all games isnt worth the cost of new ram and a mobo tbqh

>There are better coolers
Nope
>Why would you get something shitty looking
Because only girls cares about how something looks

>intel
>talking ANYTHING about microstutters

It's not 2014 anymore, gramps. Dark Rock pro looks immensely better, same price and performs the same.

>I was only pretending

Buying a high end cpu is a good strategy though.
He can upgrade at least 3 gens of gpu's before needing to build a new pc.
My 4790k went from a r9290 to a 1080 to a 2080ti. If I had to buy a new cpu everytime it would have hurt a lot

>I also have a 9600k and it's overclocked to 4.8 on a H115i Pro
>Always super low temps
That's a 240mm though, do you think having half that radiator would impact temperatures too heavily? It's my first PC so I don't wanna fuck it up.

Niggas I ain't putting that shit in my computer. I would if I had a sleeper or something like that because you can't see shit, but my case is all transparent, fuck that.

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>all these retards stuck in 2014 with their diarrhea cooler.
There are like 10 coolers on the market that are comparable with the DH-15 and don't have shit-brown fans.

>would if I had a sleeper or something like that because you can't see shit, but my case is all transparent, fuck that.
Why do you care what you setup looks like more than actual performance? You literally have a female brain.

as far as gaming is concerned, i'm sure nobody here needs more than a ryzen5 2600

Lack of education.
Most consoleplebs are niggers, McJobbers, and Gen X/Boomers who are technologically retarded for the most part.

Should I get a 2600 or 3600 for 1080p/60 frames? I want to emulate too.

>still coping because he bought diarrhea cooler

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>anandtech
wasnt this amd shill

>calling the T.I.M under the IHS "thermal paste"
I see you aren't even pretending.

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>Why do you care what you setup looks like more than actual performance?
There's gotta be a balance to everything.
And I don't "value visuals over performance", because it's already performing as expected in the first place, without looking absolutely hideous. If my CPU was overheating and getting a shit colored cooler was the only solution, then yes, I would get one, but that's not the case at this moment in time.

I just wanted to know if I could overclock on a 120mm AIO, goddammit.

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>start reading up reviews and comparisons
>it's just a worse cooler
>b-b-b-b-but MY CPU COOLER IS A COOLER COLOR
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AAAAAAAAH GET A LOAD OF THIS GUY

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This
>He didn't get the BBC (Big Black Cooler)

may as well go all out and get a 3600 if you aren't frugal.

The real losers are the i7 owners.

obligatory

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While we're on the subject, when do the lga 1200 chipsets and the 10th gen intel chips release? I wanna upgrade from a 4690k.

Q1 2020

Is it still impossible to find a 3900x? I would've had one of those if they weren't sold out for ages here. Ended up settling for a 9900k.

Your first and last mistake was going full autismo about what color your CPU cooler is. You never go full autismo.

Its not Intel its Incel you fucking bigot

>within margin in all but fortnite
Jesus, could you find a more retarded faggot benchmark that doesn't prove anything? lol

What does based mean anymore?

you gonna have to look deeper.

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I was expecting some thing concrete back, but it seems all you found were "D15 has a cooling edge and better mountings than the bequiet", right?. Don't worry, install some more calming LEDs in your case so you can cope better.

Here is another non shit looking cooler with comparable performance.

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>have shit looking cooler because you like shit looking things
>shill endlessly
>there are comparable coolers for the same price that don't make the eyes bleed
>"better call him out for having L.E.Ds hehe"

You're retarded. Non of those coolers even have fucking leds on them. When Noctua stops being utter faggots and quits with the brown "muh brand recognition" bullshit they won't be a joke to me.

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Why even go with Intel at that point? AMD has beaten them in workstation performance ever since Ryzen was first introduced, and with the 3000 series, the only thing Intel can claim that they're better at gaming because of the 2fps the 9900k has over the 3950X.

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I hope I don't have to upgrade for cyberpunk. On a 6700k now.

>When Noctua stops being utter faggots and quits with the brown "muh brand recognition" bullshit they won't be a joke to me.
Noctua has had black variants of their fans for quite some time now. Considering their coolers are still the best products on the market there's literally no excuse except being contrarian, which frankly wouldn't be too out of character for Yea Forums.

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What CPU will this decade be remembered for, and why is it the 2500K?

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Is 3600 too much for 1440p or safe enough to last me years?

>buy 2 more $25 dollar fans so you don't have to look at our retarded brown ones
No thanks. I'll buy one of the multiple alternatives that are equal in performance and don't try get more money out of me by only offering ass colored fans with their coolers out of the box.

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>multiple alternatives that are equal in performance
You mean you will buy the worse performing fans because you don't like the color scheme. I frankly cannot emulate your state of mind, I'll just put it under the "things I do not understand about women".

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>What CPU will this decade be remembered for
ryzen.

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Impossible, Ryzen didn't become relevant until last years, people still have issues, serious issues finding reasons to upgrade from 2600k and 3770k.

You can buy greyscale Noctua Redux fans that actually cost LESS and perform nearly the same as the brown ones.

Also only butt-breathing zoomer RGB retards complain about the Noctua colors.

last year*

i have a noctua and no glass window. Doubt i would mind it much even if Ihad one clear panel case. Anyway, when we're margin of error perf deviation, going for w/e you deem looks better is a perfectly valid reason. Also being that anal with other people subjective choices is kinda in bad taste.

>for you
it also won't ever be relevant for you because you're a butthurt fanboy who will always refuse reason.

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You sound like the kind of NEET that doesn't bathe or get their haircut because "who cares".
Autistic, I assume.

in terms of gaming, CPU helps with how many active things can be on screen before slowing down, GPU determines how pretty they can look before slowing down

>buying intel
ryzen is a better deal in literally every metric and doesn't have a new security flaw every month

Why buy something that you don't like the look of over something you do that also performs the same? Noctua isn't the king it was anymore. 2014 was 5 years ago.

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only in server cpus

i9 is not neccesary

just get an i5/i7 and a decent GPU

>Q2'14
In Q2 of 2014 AMD didn't even know what a core was.

Every day as I have a well paid job and once a month.
I have a mandatory full check-up every two years, mental and physical and have come clean of everything. Nice try though.

you don't seem to understand why user reacted to the i9/2070 combo

>last checked in with PC parts in like 2015
>Nvidia cards are in the 2000s now

>Don't have to look
What kind of autistic faggot fuck stares at their computer while using it? If it's on the same desk your monitor is, you're officially a faggot who doesn't actually play games.

ahem, with what I said in mind, noctua still is the king though. for those splitting hairs, it's the no brainer choice, especially because the thermalright macho are hard as fuck to find available anywhere (I tried), and probably the best competition.

Is compucleaner a meme?
>use the cans
The one time I tried it fried my motherboard 4 years ago

I simply won't buy Noctua because of their autism with the brown fans. Offer a different color that doesn't cost more and we have a deal.
I like things to be neat and clean no matter if i'm looking at it or not. Thats why I clean under my fucking oven, fridge, couches and bed. I don't look at it, ever, but that shit better be nice and fucking clean.

>The one time I tried it fried my motherboard 4 years ago
bullshit

did you read ?

You're right, I forgot. It was actually the cpu that got fucked, it stopped reading all pci-e devices.

so which CPU brand is the least cucked these days

my 8 year old rig is all but falling apart aside from the GTX1070 i bought 2 years ago and i'm probably going to have to make a new build soon

You have to buy the fans separately which is like an extra $50.

Check logical increments. /g/ approved the new AMD parts at high tiers.

i'm genuinely intrigued as to how you managed to destroy your computer with compressed air

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Intel has slightly better single core performance which gives them a tiny edge in games. As in, single digit FPS gains. Ryzen completely blows Intel out of the water in everything else.

If you want the absolute best PC for gaming, then Intel is the best. But if you're going to use it for games + literally anything else, then Ryzen is the way to go.

Personally I do like the look. And they're still edging out other coolers and fans.

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Intel has a marginal gaming edge which can disappear during the next security flaw reveal.

If you don't hold them upright they spray out liquid.

The sales page says different. The fan and fittings come in one package. if you want to customize it more, you can buy the extras separately.
noctua.at/en/products/product-lines/line-chromax/nf-a15-hs-pwm-chromax-black-swap

If the can is not perfectly vertical it can piss liquid gas on the system. Liquid = short. CPU and power supply got damaged. Rest surprisingly survived, even though back then I thought the motherboard was damaged too so I sold it for scraps and got a new one.

>Intel has slightly better single core performance which gives them a tiny edge in games
it's worth mentioning that this only applies in older/poorly programmed games that don't utilize all cores

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ultimate cope. 6 cores is the standard for future games now. 4 is the new 2 core.

Which is most of them.

Let's cut the crap and get to the point: the only reason to upgrade is to play the next Zelda and Xenoblade remake, and maybe RE3make, so what the hell is the best cpu for the job? I know for a fact a lot of people here bought the 2500k for dolphin and pcsx2, so can amd do the same now?

They're speed security holes, they make the CPU run faster

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>6
>standard
Both consoles are scheduled to release with 12c24t.

not familiar with the brand name, but if it is compressed air, thes ort you can get for cheap in every electronics store, outside of using it in a running computer, I don't see how anyone could manage to fry anything with it.
it is specifically for pcb cleaning, and even more fool proof than isopropyl.

Who the fuck does that anyway? Ryzen 3000 doesn't need overclocking. Only Incel needs overclocking

At our company they calculated that mitigations caused about 20% performance drop.

So they're off

what is this image supposed to prove
also
>that taskbar

>what is this image supposed to prove
That Intel chips are hitting clocks 1ghz above advertised stock while running undervolted, while ryzen chips are hitting clocks 200mhz below advertised stock while overvolted to silicon-destroying levels

you really should unplug the freaking computer before doing something like that, also press the power on button to discharge the caps. ffs

Compucleaner is this
youtube.com/watch?v=hKxz8kwZjak

sure kid.
as advertised.

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yes, and yes

i have this thing amazon.com/gp/product/B01BI4UQK0

it is the same duster with a stronger motor and a plastic housing

has worked excellently in cleaning heatsinks etc. for me. but the most significant dust-cleaning tool i bought was a set of filters for my case from demciflex. those fuckers catch absolutely everything. make sure to buy from their site instead of a reseller, for whatever reason their shit is 10x as expensive on amazon or etc.

hes also comparing intel cpu voltage to what the amd vrm feeds
hes underage, theres a reason hes using some meme test instead of prime95 and taking "feedback" from redditcord

tee-hee

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They are not ugly, It's a very nice and calming color scheme. They are also the best air coolers and fans on the market.
>muh shit
maybe don't think about shit so much you freak

Dilate?

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Trivia: led fans are inherently superior to normal ones because you don't have to tell the fan is dying by listening or rebooting and get the fan error, you can just learn it from the led shitting itself little by little.

>Intel and Nvidia are Jewish as fuck but their components are priced better
Stopped reading

>t. doesn't understand that architectures have differences
zen 3 has more IPC but runs at a higher voltage & doesn't overclock as well
coffee lake has fewer IPC but can be overclocked & undervolted easier

>overvolted to silicon-destroying levels
lol

AMD shills absolutely seething.
Team blue and green all the way.

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Then get one?

Here is what you actually want to know.

For video games, the 9700K is the premiere CPU today. Both in terms of absolute performance, and performance-per-dollar.

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you're simply wrong. that's all.
and your meme is bad.

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>but their components are priced better
Are you serious? Nvidia especially is completely taking advantage of its high-end monopoly with inflated prices.

But with Ryzen you can open 12 tabs in Chrome and not lose any FPS while gaming...

Yeah, the very famous games: HUB, Techpower and Tom's hardware

ryzen 3700x beats it in both price and performance

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Yeah, the very famous game: Cinebench R15

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>avx on
now if only AMD could do AVX correctly the test would mean anything

cinebench is one of the industry standard tools for benchmarking CPU rendering

Who made this CPU processor?

Cirno?

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To be fair, I remember when mongs used to shill bulldozer with cinebench.

you think you know what you're talking about but you don't. Cope moar. and keep coping.

What matters is gaming dude, stop crying. The 9900k outframes any Ryzen any day of the week, period.

sounds like you're the one coping tranny

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intel always had a lead in cinebench and they loved it. Same as with all sorts of prime number calculators. Ever wondered why we don't even see them anymore featured in most reviews apart from oldfag sites? I doubt you do, so i'll just say explicitly: it's shekels.

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of course the intelfag brings up trannies, it's his specialty

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intel had good cpus and now they don't, who gives a shit fuck off back to /g/ you apes

>Bought CPU/MOBO/RAM bundle for $500 last year
>CPU was a 8600k
>Nobody ever talks about it in these threads, only the 8700k
Did I fuck up? This was like a month before the 9 series rumors started up and I was too lazy to sell it to upgrade.

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I was laughing because I was agreeing with you. Artificial benchmarks are stupid.

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buying intel smack in the middle of the spectre/meltdown debacle.
>did I fuck up?
do you really need to ask?

For gaming it's literally the same shit.

weak bait
amd's AVX-256 implementation is all fucked up
they don't have dedicated AVX-256 units, only four AVX-128 units. however, they can merge into two AVX-256 units without penalty.
the problem is that amd uses a split design, so two units can only multiply and the other two can only add. so that means when the four units combine into two AVX-256 units, only one unit can multiply and only one can add, effectively resulting in halved speed compared to intel's solution.

they are now.
also try this oh sorry, you can't.

Oh yeah, it's so hard to close firefox, wow.

Not so fast
youtu.be/2Ky4RGBb5sc?t=74

Does anyone know what 41% of 1.6% is? Because it sounds like too small a group to be this obsessed with.

CPUs are not important for video games unless you're trying to play older games at an extremely high framerate or games at a low resolution. Most games will be bottlenecked by your gpu, so all you really need is a cpu that doesn't bottleneck your gpu. A 9900k is not going to be any better than a 3700x at playing modern games at 1440p high settings.

>testing the effective performance of a CPU is stupid

>...when talking about game performance
Only game benchmarks matter. Move on.

Good point to take from the graph is that intel is hanging from developer support alone and the Ryzen line has overtook Intel's current product line and not by a slim margin.

having to close your browser every time you want to play videogames is an unfortunate reality for intel users

who the fuck cares about winrar benchmarks

game benchmarks have too many variables to be worth considering

Have anotha one
youtube.com/watch?v=qyD_Q8RZh_M

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Seething

I do.

I don't know anything about computer specs so here are mine

ProcessorIntel(R) Core(TM) i5-2540M CPU @ 2.60GHz

Video CardIntel(R) HD Graphics 3000

RAM4.0 GB

Operating SystemMicrosoft Windows 7 Professional Edition Service Pack 1 (build 7601), 64-bit

What games can I play and what games can I not play?

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Eh I bought a Ryzen. Intel is just going to change the socket on me anyway

Nothing except Corruption of Champions II

>What games can I play
League of legends and such
>what games can I not play
Everything else

Those are tech outlets that benchmarked the CPUs in various games.

what about deus ex and other 6th generation games?

lol, you wish.

I can run deus ex fine.

>II
objectively inferior to the first one

This is a laptop right? Should still be able to play older titles in 30-60fps 720p. Like I do not know much about laptop specs but I've got one without dedicated graphic card too and I can play lots of older titles in acceptable frames with fps configs and emulating ps1 games works flawlessly.

>i5-2500K
>8GB RAM which Firefox loved to swallow whole
>GTX 560Ti

>tfw I finally upgraded to a R5 3600, RX 5700XT, 16GB ram and also an Optix mag24cq

AoE2, HoMM3 and other good stuff

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>ps 720p. Li
cool thanks, out of the games I've played that have worked.

DOOM, DUKE, DEUS EX, OCTODAD, one finger death punch, guilty gear, super meat boy, broken sword.

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>you can only buy cpus from either jews or chinks
why

why would you buy an i7 or more for gaming that's just retarded

whats the best emulator for ps1?

>intel start soldering their dies
>the CPU will still burn your house down

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>3.6ghz
This isn't real... right?

>i5
pc master race is a joke.

he probably realized the housefire "memes" werent memes and doesnt want to burn his house down

wasnt this when the 9900k's pretty much ignored TDP or something and overdrew power?

>liquid cooler getting same temp as air cooler

somethings fuckey

>muh niggahertz
either way, not him but speccy can't read a fuckton of things correctly. It also adds 60c to Ryzen temps or outright can't read them at all, same with a lot of xeons.

>>liquid cooler getting same temp as air cooler
because it's throttling itself

what people tell me it is definitely not epsxe but I still use that because I dont care as long as it works.

That's just the display case for packaging.

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>>liquid cooler getting same temp as air cooler
AIOs only "benefit" is the thermal mass, under longer load periods they don't bring much benefit. Custom watercoolers on the other hand are the only viable option when water is concerned.

>wasnt this when the 9900k's pretty much ignored TDP or something and overdrew power?
Plot twist, they've been doing that since skylake. The majority of the time they blast straight past the TDP once they try to boost themselves.

mednafen
using the mednafen core on retroarch is also good

he loves israel.

dude
dodecahedron
lmao

tesselation lmao

>Buy K-series unlocked CPU
>Intel tells you to stop overclocking
>Bios patch gets released that allows non K CPUs to overlock
>"oy vey can't have that"
>intel shuts it down

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ok, what one is the easiest ps1 emulator to set up and run?

retroarch
>enter app
>download mednafen beetle core for ps1 and select it
>set up path for games folder (optional)
>play

epsxe
>enter app
>set up controls (i think they aren't pre-configured but could be wrong)
>set up path for games folder
>play

you don't need to have a software engineering degree to use them, i'd say retroarch is better since you can get cores for other consoles in it as well, and epsxe is generally regarded as shitty

and what about the roms or isos or whatever they're called, I tried doing this 10 years ago but I couldn't get it to work, how different is it to emulating, cartridge based games like snes, n64?

How the fuck is your CPU so cool?

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epsxe is shit
retro arch UI is shit
mednafen is the best

uhh its just file -> run iso -> select the iso file. But you will also need the ps1 bios file. They dont bundle that with the emulator because it is too illegal or something but you can find isos around just by googling still I hope.

>bloomfield
does that answer your question

vimms lair is the only place I know of to get roms/isos but it takes forfuckingever to download them. SHHHHH it's a secret.

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>45mm technology
oooof

what about emuparadise?

If you have an account I think they still work. I just use vimms though.

>case

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So it's about time I get a new CPU? Any recommendations that work with Windows 7?

i don't get why people dislike the ui, both the ps3 and switch uis are fine
well for ps1 games you'll need bin and cue files (1 cue file and some amount of bin files) and then run the cue file in the emulator. that's genrally how you can emulate ps1 games, don't know of any other way
like the other reply said you need the bios files too. you'll find both at the-eye.eu, go to the files tab and then rom/. you'll see the folders for bios and playstation there
for bios get scph5500 and scph5502, if you're using retroarch they go into the folder called "system"

cool, thanks, any info on sega CD and saturn emulation, im kind interested in those too.

(is vimms safe)

You should be more concerned that you have to buy a cpu, ram and mobo to upgrade from that ancient shit.

I've never had an issue with vimms. Every file was safe but your experience could always vary. Happy and safe downloading!
You can use fusion for Sega emulation but someone may have a better rec. I don't sperg about U.I this or that so I just go with the classics.

>"under scientific conditions"
maybe you mean specific conditions but that too is wrong. Intel is so infested, some of the patches have an affect in performance for everybody using those chips and they are finding more and more each day.

UI stands for user interface right?

Seems you've got me there, this thing I've had since 2010 and I've never really felt the need to upgrade because I don't play most newer games. The only thing somewhat recent is the graphics card had to replaced when the fan on it shat out a few years back. Hell, the only reason I'm asking now is because lately it's been having trouble starting up without freezing.

youtube.com/watch?v=M-2Scfj4FZk

is there even a build that requires an i9 to play a game at 144fps or some bullshit like that? the bottlenecks are always monitor or GPU, unless you are playing an RTS at 144fps with 8 AI and 700 units.

Im a little confused, any way to dumb that down?

Dude, you just have to start messing around with it then it will make sense. Those were pretty specific instructions.

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alright ok, 1 last question for an idiot like me?

epsxe, retru arch or mednafen?

I plan to upgrade next year from an i3 2120 gts 450, and i found an online store that lets me choose my parts. Should i go for a ryzen 5 2600 or an i5 9400, considering that i would use a gtx 1080 6 gb and both builds would cost about the same?

start with epsxe and move on from there. epsxe is shit but it's pretty easy to use and gets you used to messing with shit.

go to the-eye.eu, it's a site for archiving files
go to the files tab, and then to the folder called rom
in there you'll find a bunch of folders, the ones you need are bios and playstation
from bios, get the files scph5500 and scph5502
from playstation, find the game you want and download it, it will be a zip file with some files in it
make a folder for the game and put all the files from the zip into the folder
where you put the bios files depends on what emulator you're using

ok thanks, shit in what way, is the preformance bad?

ok, thank you for all that and sorry for my importance.

Performance sucks but there really isn't much of an option. Most games will work well enough thouggh. EPSXE is easy to set up too just use the wizard and watch some youtube vids.

only in server CPUs retards, did you not read the article?

Although it doesn't affect the average consumer. Do you know how big the server cpu market is? Do you have any idea how much losses this could cause Intel on the long run with people switching over to amd?

hah

I'll be getting a 9700k assuming the drop prices in November. 3570 has served me well, but my mobo is dying and it's time to upgrade

This guy gets it. I might never see the effects of these vulnerabilities, but your average server has TONS of information they can't afford to have leaked. And how many chips does your average server farm have? I'd wager hundreds, minimum. And each chip is losing about 50% performance from all of these vulnerabilities. That's like taking half the servers and throwing them into the dumpster.

>r*tard Yea Forumsermin don’t understand it only affects their xeon cpus like most of the security issues.
is this /g/?

how’s not hitting your advertised boost speeds?

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>sata ssds
How's 2014 treating you?

I upgraded to it from a 6100 last year, still on a 2012 mobo and not rebuilding until DDR5 unless they delay it again fucking shit.

I need to upgrade
best case, board and cpu? for gpu I'll probably get a gtx 1060

Is this Intel's version of coping with getting BTFO-ed after a decade of jacking off?

Emuparadise is better

>1060
480/580 is better but not the shit versions.

>480/580 is better
yeah right

youtube.com/watch?v=AK4mvfT7-5k

>december 2018
Here's a better video.
youtube.com/watch?v=BLdXfFsgvkE

So what model of laptop should I get if I want to make 3D rigs without it being Intel?
Windows 10 is already a fucking shitshow of an OS and AMD still hasn't released RayTracing laptops yet.

>t. get a desktop rig faggot

I'm in a college dorm and want to work on some shit while working on a puny desk. Catch me a break ffs

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same

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I have an older intel but it has higher GHz

I have a fucking old i7 4790 and the ONLY game that literally makes my CPU burns is Kenshi at max settings.
Not even Control or BFV with RT can do the same to my machine.

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>radeon
no thanks I want games, not a barbecue

>mentioning clock speed

Automatically dropped.
Clock speeds dont matter unless you're comparing CPUs of the same architecture. Beyond that it is completely and utterly pointless to bring it up.

Feels great getting my full advertised SSD performance without security gimping. Also my 3900X hits 4.6 GHz too, within the TDP spec. ;)

I have an i5 6600k with a RTX 2080. Is this retarded?

What should I replace it with?

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a reasonable reply, have an upvote fellow redditor

Reminder that due to the power wall, there's no reason to upgrade your cpu if it came out in 2012 or later.

More cores

>fx9590
>that smell of hot air whenever I run anything

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time to upgrade

hey thats kinda like mine

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There isn't much of a difference since Sandy Bridge. There are still only a handful of games that do scale beyond four-threads and more modern chips do stretch out more. Interesting enough, Zen and Skylake-detrivates are trading blows in these games. If you are a streaming-fag though, the Zen shit do have a noticeable advantage in almost every-tier.

For all intends and purposes, the CPU hasn't matter much for gayming needs since Sandy Bridge. The GPU carries so much more weight for gayming shit.

I am thinking of upgrading soon. On top of gaming, I also use 3d software to simulate destruction, water and cloth physics. Which cpu should I consider buying? Along with the motherboard and ram that goes with it?
My GPU is 1060 gtx which I bought last year. And keep in mind that I am just Hobbyist. Thanks.

And nothing optimizing beyond 4 threads yet

I'm still rocking my Dual Core Pentium G3258

Zero regrets and still haven't found the need to upgrade.

AVX support is a good reason why.

Don't know what that is but I haven't found any compatiblity issues with my cpu so far.

People actually get the nvidia and rx 480's confused?

the 9900k is basically this gen's fx-9590, except good

Some games dislike not having AVX to the point it will run like shit, BF4 and early dolphin releases were known for running like shit in the G3258 for example and not because the lack of cores.

>i9 is a fucking waste, no game is going to use all those cores.
Old School RuneScape will

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Kaby Lake X

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just get a 3600 or 3700x and be done with it

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>doesn't mention which ryzen
For all we know it could be a 2200g
Or just plain shitposting, which is more likely

Don't forget to minus 30% after those security patches

Same here, honestly the only reason I feel tempted to switch it out is that I'm planning on upgrading everything in my PC including my motherboard and if I'm going to that extent I might as well buy a new processor on top of it.

If he uses it for anything other than gaymin he should have went with ayymd

>bait of this magnitude truly deserves a (You)

how does one show these specs? what do you have to install?

I'm running an I5-2400. Would a 3700x be a good upgrade CPU wise?

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>paying hundreds of dollars extra for 10 more frames
You guys are worse than audiophiles

>didn’t read my post
even after several windows and bios updates i lost at best 3 fps, nice try.

my 6700k can sit at 4.5ghz, can you even oc to 4.2?

>garbage ram
>intel ssd
ohnononono

That's also why I just get a generic black case when building a PC
I'll spend a lot more time looking at "qt anime girl wallpaper" than my PC case, or god forbid, my fucking PC fans

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The average Yea Forums retard

Anything is a upgrade from the 2400, it mostly matters which GPU you are using.

stfu faggot nigger i found it :)

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The 3600 is just rightbif your primary use is gaming, the 3700x might last longer tho

Hwinfo, Speccy, etc.

The 3600 gets close to the 9900k

>tfw 8600k
Least I got it cheap, but still kinda deeply regret not going Ryzen in the first place.

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>14nm

You literally do not need more then 4 cores/8 threads to play a video game. No games take advantage of more than 3 cores at most.

I wanna do 1080p gaming right now with a better option for 1440p in the future so I was looking at a 2060s or a 2070s

>Thinks SSD performance is related to game performance
You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you? Also even at 4.1 GHz I can still smash your shitlake i7 at 4.5 GHz in single core.

Dolphin a PCSX2 runs like a dream on my G3258 and will run anything short of a FPS game. I will give you games like BF4 running poorly but I couldn't care. Modern games are hot garbage and I have a ps4 for one of the few good ones anyways.

Imagine being such a goy that you upgrade your tech every single year

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He doesnt

Same for my 2700x

Intel releasing comet lake in 2020 kek just like they said years ago they would be releasing 10 nm

>friend has 2133 Mhz RAM

AMD GPU and a Intel CPU how retarded can you be

I'm a nig and I know that's some bullshit

And also deader.

BUY INTEL FOR THE LOVE OF SHEKELS
BUY INTEL GOYIM
BUY INTELLLLLLLL BUY IT BUY IT BUY IT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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then why does r/amd tell me im bogged down with security updates?

>he still thinks this effects everyday users
once again it affects Xeon processors incase you couldn’t read it before. go look at benchmarks before and after

Nhd15 performs close to aios

Well if thats the best jabs anyone can come up with im relieved.

It's not it should be around 30c but intel

No you didn't you looked at your replys and are using speccy enjoy your spyware

Since there is no /bst/ up right now, r8 muh battlestation. I just got done doing cable management and changing the fans on my machine.

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>Have 6600k
>Usually have tons of things open while I vidya
Is it worth getting a 3700x or should I keep waiting?

Carring about security on your gaming rig
Kek

Keep coping

If it's an I5 get rid of it, if it's an i7 you're good.

i bet youre just mad someone who didnt know what speccy was has a better pc than you

why? the 8600k is great.

Going to come so hard when I get a new build

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thing I like = based