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what in the shit is that stock?

how does the trigger work
answer me todd

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Learn how to blankpost

the models were built around Todd

Correct.

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>.32 calibre
>6 damage
>hunting rifle also uses .32
>31 damage

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bigger gun = more damage

I love how New Vegas is super /k/-tier while 3 and 4 are made by art majors who have never touched a gun.

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bang the nail into your kneecap

longer barrel = higher velocity = more damage

.32 caliber doesn't exist. Do you mean .38? I just checked the wiki and you're wrong, the .38 reciever mod on the hunting rifle does 21 damage. A snub nose pistol is going to have a lot less velocity than a long barrel rifle.

I'm not sure what Bethesda has against using real guns when the first 2 had them.

>detachable carry handle

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Probably licensing costs.

>.38 reciever mod
Oh user...

The pistol and rifle in game is .32

Because the guns are customizable but usually the first variants of the gun you get are the shortened version.
My gripe is they picked such a retarded place to saw off the stock instead of making a proper sawed off grip.

I think that's funny considering the first games used real world companies a ton even for fictional weapons, like having glock make the plasma pistol and colt the 10mm.

>No fixed carry handle
Yikes

I hate that the difference between a rifle and pistol with energy weapons is a stock.

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That can't be the case if the much lower budgeted New Vegas could do it.

I don't think they once stopped to think how the junk guns will work, just slapped some shit together and said
>bang comes out here
>pull hook to make bang goes here
>we make good gun

>What is acceleration

Hey, Louie! You ever seen what one of these babies does to soft tissue? Watch!

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What trigger?

>Dreamed about this 2 days ago
>P90 style magazine with the injection forwards
>Crickets

Fallout 3 weapons were expertly designed and iconic. Adamn Adamowicz was a legend.

>being able to shoot further with a flatter trajectory despite the cartridge holding the same amount of powder means it will do 6x the damage

>this kills /k/

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sounds right considering the atf is just about that retarded

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Fixed carry handles are fucking disgusting. What if you want to mount some actual optics? Oh darn, you can't, because it's an integrated piece of metal.

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It's not a NCR rifle without a fixed carry handle

It's a aesthetic vs functionality issue. His energy weapons a especially great because no gun autism involved.

Different times. You have legal departments vetting shit now and they tend to be very conservative. Especially with the big companies. Contrary to popular belief, you don't have to pay licensing fees to have real world guns, cars, etc., in your game but you are opening yourself up to possible legal action relating to things like defamation or false endorsement. It probably wouldn't go anywhere but nobody likes their time and money wasted by frivolous legal action.

Rip to him

Trash

>when your obrez isn't obrez enough

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2012*

But it wouldn't be a magnitude of 5 times the damage, it would be 1/3 more at most

what bugs me the most is that they could have made it work if they made it belt fed instead of that pussy magazine and called it what they where going for: a small arms rifle for power armor users, just calling it a machine gun instead and adding in an actual assault rifle like the ak or hell even bringing back the R91.

got instructional jpegs for these kinds of things but big brother might get me

Based

Then its not a service rifle. You need a fixed carry handle and, for some fucking reason, a charge handle on the bolt.

why the fuck is there absolutely no mods to make pipe guns actually look well designed rather than just replacing them with other guns outright?
i don't hate the idea of junk weapons its just their execution was so terrible its baffling

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>hell even bringing back the R91
This goes into a larger issue of Bethesda having to change the art style with each game, elder scrolls does this too.

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>Rust
Based

I know, I was kidding.

Would've been cool if they added a backpack with it to facilitate the water-cooling. Bethesda had a weird aversion to applying extra gear to the character (no motorcycle gas-tank for shiskebab, no ammunition backpacks for minigun/gatling laser).

>dumb operator nigger can't into iron sights
Cope

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In Elder Scrolls it makes more sense because each game is set somewhere different but in Fallout it's unexcusable

Why would you mount an optic on whats obviously an for the aesthetic rifle? If you're going to spend money on getting wood furnishings for an AR then you probably already own a seperate wannabe spec ops boogaloo rifle. People that feel compelled to pop a red dot, laser, or scope on everything are always terrible shots who can't hit a thing with their ironsights so they always need that crutch.

I liked the way they did energy weapons in NV. They all share the same family of ammo types(EC, MFC, ECP) with pistols, rifles, and heavy taking the respective ammo type. 4 fucked it all up by making ammo for energy the same as bullets and having no difference between rifles and pistols.

That's only a larger issue if you're an autist. Bethesda has said they deliberately don't shackled themselves with the past and they're right to do that.

>45 lbs brick

The fallout games are set in different time periods as well as locations. Some variation is okay but atleast they could take the time to make them look good.

Based off of the ppsh41 stock which has a fire selector switch in front of the trigger

only 2 added the retarded real world guns
it was a mistake

It's fine to make new stuff but needlessly redesigning stuff is how you get this abomination. Doesn't help most of 4s designs were a downgrade from 3s and losing their artist 100% had to do with that.

the trigger guard is so big because the guns need to work with power armor too

>IRON SIGHTS GOOD
>MODERN OPTICS BAD
I hate boomers so fucking much

Fallout 1 has desert eagles and a mauser.

get good faggot

What's the rear, locked back bolt for?
Why is the trigger so far behind the action?
how does the magazine feed from that low? why is the magazine that low and horizontal when a vertical one would make much more sense?
What's the piece of metal on the front of the wood block for?

>it was a mistake
Adding the G11 is never a mistake.

Get with the times, gramps

>he can't hit shit without his $1000 chinkshit optics
Rifle is fine

If you can't land tight groups with iron sights beyond 600 yards then we can't be in the same room together

Isn't this just saying you're gimping yourself to impress anons?

I get gud to impress myself. Don't need no fancy EOTech or someshit.

Energy > guns

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>Why don't you stick to black powder muskets if you're going to pointlessly hold onto older methods made obsolete for the sake of NEW BAD OLD GOOD

Yeah sure I like ironsights myself
Just seems weird to brag about because it's like taking your sights off entirely and being all "can't shoot like this then git gud :)"

>Why don't you stick to black powder muskets
Why not indeed. Like to see anti-gun fags say anything then.

I like the idea though. Water cooled machine gun is pretty cool

>anti-materiel sniper rifle
>30 round magazine
>fires in 15 round bursts
>later retconned into a pseudo light machine gun
>but still looks like an anti tank rifle
>and still 30 round mag
why

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Shhhhhh...do you hear that? Its the sound of a gearqueer unable to get good.

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Energy weapons are for faggots that can't handle a bit of recoil.

F4's obsession with crafting and weapon/armor moddability was a fucking mistake

If you can't shoot 3 smooth shots a minute on a moving ship by the captain's order then just get out of this thread fucking tacticool kid

You dropped your antique cannon, pops! Wow, I'm surprised this primitive thing fires at all! Belongs in a museum to be honest. Glad we've advanced since this old thing

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All I hear is the sound of farting old men grumbling about you can't use dem black rifles for huntin

It was intended as an anti matetial rifle but they accidently gave it only burst fire, they made it a lmg because fans enjoyed it.

Of course
>melts the skin off your arms

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>he doesn't like the ping machine
I bet it'd bruise your shoulder too you pathetic faggot. Go back weekendgunnit. Maybe they'll think you're cool with your riced out AR.

The energy weapons have recoil animations though.

My favourite gun in NV

the designers were so caught up in whether or not they could...

V G T G

G

S

SOUL.

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wouldnt being in contact with the barrel for longer mean the longer barrel = more friction/less acceleration

Soulless...

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What was the actual use for this thing pre-war?

Punching things
Hard

Imagine being so anal devastated over a video game that you make the same thread multiple times per week.

Modern barrels are designed to spin the bullet as it passes through it, increasing the velocity.

nah like gasses from the explosion and shieet speed it up

>OLD IS GOOD
>*wood stock rots*
>*chambered in a stupidly and unnecessarily overpowered cartridge that compromises capacity despite designed for a war where the vast majority of the OpFor aren't wearing any kind of body armor*
WOW why aren't we using this old shit today? Clearly it's still superior. better go dust off the ol' 1911

We can go further.

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As long as the gunpowder's expansion is faster than the bullet's velocity it will accelerate the bullet

>cant be used on power armor
i really fucking hate some parts of fallout 4

Punching chinks
Hard

I like to assume it was used for breaching doors without having to carry around a battering ram while doubling as a close-quarters weapon. Canonically it was used for .

>reddit spacing
sandraker detected

This is a fun design, it's just ridiculous that they made it the "assault rifle."

It's plainly the LMG that they eventually just decided to call the AR when for whatever reason, they didn't want to complete the actual assault rifle, an AK derivative they later put in nuka world.

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im pro gun but this thing looks dangerous to the user

>Only 4 unarmed weapons in the base game

Bethesda really hate unarmed builds for some reason.

Hang on, I thought single line vertical spacing was filtered.
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It's only fair that both parties get harmed, therefore ensuring that the weapon is never used except in a life or death situation

Fuck off fixed carry handle is aesthetic and easy to use

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my guess is that they thought they could skimp out on the weapons since you could mod them
i really miss unique looking weapons
new vegas did the weapons best

well I'll be damned

FO3 also has only four if you don't count uniques.

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You want to talk harmful to the user.

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SOUL.

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japan replaced bows with matchlocks because it required no skill
wooden stocks were replaced with polymer because it was cheaper, lighter and a lot easier to replace, but less environmentally friendly and durable
they turned long lasting hard wearing guns that are still perfectly functional today despite minimal maintenance into shitty lowest bidder mall ninja shit that would be lucky if it was still serviceable after 10 years of regular use and heavy maintenance
but the future is the best! planned obsolescence benefits us all! advancement!

Soulless...

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Because if it's a matter of life or death and the enemy is far out, they'll respect that you really tried your best to hit them long distance since you were unable to mount a scope. When it comes down to it, actual utility doesn't matter, it's all about the bragging rights of willingly gimping yourself.

Jesus that one hurts.

The Bozar is basically an M27 IAR, aka an assault rifle adapted for mid range automatic fire, to replace machine guns which are heavy as fuck

>heavy-ass gas tank loaded in the part of the weapon it'd most weigh down and get the hottest
Who fucking designed this thing?

That's not the point you fucking retard. It's about creating a cool retro aesthetic. Modern detachable carry handles and optics ruin that aesthetic. Also, everyone should know how to shoot well with iron sights, it's a basic pillar of marksmanship and being a fag who has to rely on a red dot no matter what is simply embarrassing.

Me? Heh... Never cared for guns...

I prefer the blade.

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You know what an AR has in common with Bob Marley?
Both are always jammin'

hmm obviously a ghetto industrial tool design but it seems too much like a flamethrower if they're going to go for that

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I prefer to punch you in the face.

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Yeah, old technology is best! Fuck efficiency! Gimme awful ergonomics, overpowered cartridges to hinder the ability to make quick, accurate follow-up shots, and and a decreased capacity altogether! Life is a contest, and when it's your life on the line, advantages are for wimps!

For me, it's the Splattercannon!

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Metro did the "scrap gun" aesthetic a billion times better.

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>fingerless gloves
You're not any better.

Ingredients:
1 AK
1 Shovel

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>Yeah! Iron sights are for BOOMERS, am I right fellow oper9ers? Surely /k/ will accept me now that I own a sweet PSA AR with a sick scope I bought on Wish

wow look at how special it isnt
legendary weapons were a mistake
im beginning to think fallout 4 was rushed

.32 ACP is a thing, it's used by various pocket pistols and Skorpion machine pistols.

Either way Bethesda is retarded. I can only imagine this being Obsidian's first and foremost thought when changing it to a proper .308 rifle cartridge.

The railgun is my favorite
>shoots ball bearings through railway beams energized by a car battery
Beyond based

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Two seconds lads I just need to POOMP

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wood gives me wood

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>I willingly choose the old, most inefficient way of doing something to fit in with the older crowd because I drank their "advancement is bad" koolaid
Woodfags can literally burn in hell

Wood is aesthetic. Take your chinkshit polymer stocks back to china where they belong.

From what I heard, FO4 was worked on by multiple teams that weren't very coordinated, whereas Far Harbor was made solely by Todd's team. No idea how true any of that is though.

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>this guy probably likes quadrails

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Fuck aesthetics, they offer no tactical advantage whatsoever

>have to go into a dark area with your rifle
Now, would you rather mount the flashlight on handguard of the rifle, or would you rather try to hold the fucking rifle and flashlight at the same time?

Covering your rifle in rails doesn't make it more tactical you mallninja.

Iron sights aren't inefficient in the slightest and if you need a scope you might as well just carry something that is a higher caliber than 5.56

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Except it literally does, because that's where the tactical shit GOES when you're looking for a place to mount it

*melts your skin off*
Nothin personnel.

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>selector and charging handle on the wrong side
what's with them making every gun mirrored

>When experiencing a malfunction with the service rifle (or any other weapons which share its reload animation) the Courier will use proper procedure and utilize the forward assist to fully seat the bolt carrier group.
How can Bethesda even compete?

Wasn't this literally designed and manufactured by Glock

its a shame you can first get this when its obsolete

tacticool user is kind of based ngl

Glock 86

so this....is how it ends

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Nice try faggot. Only faggots and retards like tacticool shit. Real men appreciate aesthetics.

And what fucking "tactical" situation are you going to be using your tricked out AR for? Sorry buddy, but SHTF is never going to happen. Using anything more than a shotgun for home defense is overkill and your stupid apocalypse scenario that your autistic mind keeps fantasizing about is never coming. Having an AR is simply a toy for fun on the range, that's literally it.

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What I hated the most was the retarded pistol animation

>477514271
t. samefag

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Sharing is caring.

>shotgun for home defense meme
I too enjoy permanent hearing damage

Not every gun needs to be a tacticool operater gun. Does a 10/22 need an adjustable stock and an EOtech? No its a plinking/varmint killing rifle but some people still get their jollies from that king of shit the same as people who put wood on an AR15 because it looks cool and they played New Vegas.
If you can't find utility in a weapon being fun to have and shoot then you are beyond help.

An at would allow me to kill more faggots like you than a shotgun would

Was just looking at his art. RIP.
Btw he was the only concept artist that worked on Fallout 3.

flickr.com/photos/47857688@N08/albums/72157629320774861/page1

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Sorry, not interested in discussing realism in a game with mutants and zombies.

Alright, I'm not tacticalfag but only a fudd says you only need a shotgun for home defense. Plenty of reasons to have an AR for home defense. And if you live in a rural area you can use it to kill feral hogs and pests.

poor widdle ears

AR-10

I do appreciate aesthetics I just like his point about it gimping

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And braindead fucking boomers value aesthetics over actual proven efficiency and sense. Your stupid cannon is overpowered as fuck and is as heavy and unwieldy as a slab of concrete. Results matter, not impressions on others.

youtube.com/watch?v=NspPu01hKWs

>waaaahh its too heavy and its got too much recoil

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Why does Bethesda hate energy and unarmed?

AR10 charging handle is not like the service rifle's in the slightest

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me strong alpha man me proud to not hear ug loud good and strong like zug

>Here's a problem
>What tool can I use to go about solving this problem in the most inefficient way possible?

what's the purpose of 2 burrels shooting left right left right?

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me pussy

Higher rate of fire? Honestly don't know what they were thinking for this one.

you shoot straight at them and no matter which way they dodge to they get hit

dey told me hearing protection is for pussy. me man. me stupid and also deaf now

You can shoot two people standing next to each other without having to move the gun.

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what?

>Plenty of reasons to have an AR for home defense
Oh yeah I loooove accidentally killing my neighbors due to overpenetration.

lol just wear earplugs

And what problems are you facing on a daily basis where the weight of your rifle and the size of the round matter?
Oh wait. You're not.

It's more frustrating when you look at 76 and see how much they expanded heavy weapons to better match the function and aesthetic of the PA. We should have gotten the .50 cal and the LMG from 76 in 4.

>ywn live in a timeline where the ar10 was adopted instead of the m14

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Overpenetration is a meme.

So god forbid you find yourself in that hypothetical solution and it's your life on the line, you don't care if your weapon of choice leaves you at a disadvantage compared to other choices?
>check out that rifle on that dead body!
>coooool!

Given routine training and range time with my given weapon any disadvantage would be negligible in any reasonable situation.
SHTF is not a reasonable situation and its not happening.

>Game has Israeli firearms.

0_0 yikes

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>SHTF is not a reasonable situation and its not happening.
Never even said SHTF, it can be any damn situation in which it's you vs. another guy with a gun. Armed home invasions are a thing.

that part in fallout 2 where the jewish stereotype tries use real cash to get a meal then reminds the vendor of the holocaust

Just throw a knife at him.

An apocalypse is no reason to forget the 6 million

Yeah and the urban youths responsible for the vast majority of armed home invasions aren't expecting any kind of resistance.

touche

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the tales of the acid rollercoasters still make me cry to this day

>weapons made by whites are superior
wtf?!

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We need to ban this game.

>higher velocity = more damage

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It doesn't shoot both burrels at the same time

I know. They're staggered. Which is why I said high rof.

>lower velocity = as much damage as higher velocity

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>I like both

but for real i just think they wanted something that wasnt a regular gun

Any gun can damage your ears, though.

Why does Bethesda insist on this awful aesthetic for guns when the series has had much better designs before? Even some of Bethesdas work before 4 was so much better than this shit, like in

they make fixed carry handle mounting brackets for optics tough guy

the old designer died of cancer

Da uzi 9mm

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are you going to put your ear pro on when you hear a window break at 3am?

This is some ork shit

.22 won't

I always wear ear plugs when I go to bed.

>he doesn't sleep with earpro on

Yup, same reason the armor all looks like shit now.

from what i can tell he designed the entirety of fallout 3 practically single handedly, pretty crazy

there are lot's of Israeli firearms desu
no escape for you

Thats not true. I got tinnitus when I shot my friends dads .22 revolver without any earpro. Now I hear a constant EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

excuse me I don't understand how guns work and all of that but there are other smg's in the game with faster fire rate and just one barrel

Inject a stimpak into your head.

I think your ears are just faulty, you should get a refund for them

god damn i need to get a cz

you were just haunted by a ghost ever since
they've been laughing at you behind your mortal back

fallout 3 was comfy

I miss my guns. Stupid fucking landlord.

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Did he design weapons for any other games?

whack smack chopping that cum

shotgun rain

I know that too. Its a fictional gun in a video game. There's also a belt fed LMG that shoots micro missiles and a plasma LMG. We're just going by rule of cool here.

he worked on fallout 3 and a bit on 4
thats all for fallout as far as wiki says

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Oh hey! YOU. SUCK.

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Super mutants may be brutal but not as brutal as the masturbation machines

>retarded attachments for pistols
>why are regulations not designed around retarded weapons
The only argument here is that the NRA is antagonistic to the ATF.
They could pass standardization regulations for specific types of guns to make it easier to regulate but common sense regulations would be too easy.
Don't know what an assault rifle means?
Define it.
Define what a pistol is.
Define what a shotgun is.
Define what a rifle is.
Wow so hard to make common sense regulations.

It's da oozie nein milly-meater you uncultured swine.

>definitions so arbitrary that adding a stick to the front end of a pistol to hold onto makes it no longer a pistol
Yeah, okay, infallible.

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>muh irons

go be inefficient somewhere else fag

that's your fault entirely.

i swear the pipe guns all fucking suck

Uuum, can you spell "BASED"?

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But the uzi was made by jews....

stop being american for just five seconds and build a house out of brick instead of gypsum
you fuckers have cheap AC and 40% more disposable income on average compared to the rest of the first world so what's the problem

They spend it all on McDonalds and videogames.

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Yeah, I kinda had that unfortunate decision of "live somewhere" or "keep my guns"

the deagle was invented by the non jewish american company Mganum Research and most deagle available to US citizen are made by magnum research

fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Gaston_Glock
>Gaston Glock was an Austrian engineer, and founder of the pre-War firearms company Glock.
>In the 21st century, his consciousness was somehow transferred into an advanced Artificial Intelligence. In this new form, Glock continued to design weapons, including the Glock 86 Defender model plasma pistol.
huh

o-oy vey, do you WANT to kill my lumber industry?

G11 itself is a mistake

massuh i promise i be panneling that shit with wood outside and in

uh, based

You know thats illegal right? Your landlord legally cannot tell you to not have guns and anything in your contract that says you can't is illegal.

Exactly the fault of the NRA.
A pistol should be defined to not have these attachments.
They are retarded and only serve the purpose of obfuscating the existing regulations.
You would be retarded to use these attachments as serious components for a fucking handgun.
Handguns don't need foregrips and braces.

He had pictures of me sucking his cock either I sold the guns or he post the images on facebook.

Thats blackmail and even more illegal.

It's not an apartment complex, it's the downstairs suite of his house. There's no contract because I pay cash every month so I get a good deal and he doesn't get gouged by taxes for collecting rent. On top of all that, it's Leafland, so yeah, at the end of it all it really is my fault. Not all of us here were lucky enough to be born in your section of the world, and they don't hand out citizenships to people like me.

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HEY

...

>it's Leafland
Border hop and apply for welfare. Its what the beans do.

>Not sawing a poverty AR barrel to 15.9 inches, installing a lightning link, planting it in his house, then tipping the ATF off that he has an illegal full auto SBR
Never gonna make it

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why did the cia niggers have to take him so soon

it's just not fair

I want to believe.
Actually that would explain everything.

but I actually want to have the career I've been working towards these past few years and I'd be made instantly when it came time for the mandatory background check

The art book says they didn't want to have backpacks anymore cause it limited their clothing options.

That wasn't an issue in 3 or NV, not sure why 4 is be different. The power armor, I guess.

Some outfits have their own backpacks so that was probably why.

>mean while actual 1950s experimental AR designs

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>ywn own an AR-10

You can own a brn10a which is actually pretty swell to shoot tbqhwy

This is pretty nice

>NRA
you mean the NFA which was written with stupid clauses about short barrel rifles because they wanted to ban handguns but had to remove that provision because even 1930s ultra fudds wouldn't pass it.

No I mean the NRA who pushed a bunch of stupid attachments after the regulations went up.
After they participated in writing these regulations.
You would be retarded to think a group as powerful as the NRA had no input into gun regulations.

where the fuck does the spent casing eject from

look up .32H&R magnum

.327 magnum is still made today for a few firearms, its essentially a more powerful .32 magnum.

yes retard, more velocity = more energy

Still makes me mad. Just compare it to the laser rcw from NV both are new additions to the lore but you can clearly see the difference in design philosophies and why one works and the other doesn't.
Also you just know if Bethesda had created the rcw for 4 it would have flashing lights and be a laser pistol taped to a stock.

>when you live in a city that exported bricks so half the area houses made before 00' are brick
Feels good, shasme about the crime though.

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the nra didn't invent pistol braces you mong

>nra didn't have a hand in what the group they represent did
>literally made up of the owners of gun manufacturing companies

>gun is so ugly that people don't even realize how overpowered it is

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The left side for cool factor.

Why does it need that bit on the bottom if it's got a p90 style mag?

>ejection port literally above the grip
>Rear sight literally 2 cm away from the front sight

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Aesthetic

inertia block that travels downwards to reduce recoil

Obscure fallout lore is fun as hell.

>SHTF is not a reasonable situation and its not happening.

Except when it happened it Bosnia 92-95. I hope it happens here, it would be much more exciting

That’s just the gun from Hard Boiled.

yeah, that also means that the bullets gonna pass right through you. why do you think we use 5.56? shit bounces around inside you; fucks up your guts

It's so they can eject cases across the player's field of vision, a relatively common design trick to make shooting more exciting and visually interesting. Also neatly avoids the issue of animating hands to operate the controls of a weapon.

You're a fucking idiot.

It helps that there was a real market of Thompson-style guns for decades, cloning the basic layout with a bunch of different internals and cartridges. So it's totally reasonable that some idiot would decide to make a laser version once that became the hot new thing in small arms.

If it did happen it wouldn't be exciting. You'd be having the worst day of your life everyday until it ended. And you'd likely wind up dead.

fallout lore is supposed to be pretty clunky chunky old and inefficient anyway
i'm surprised we didn't see a BAR or a BREN show up as some kind of energy heavy machinegun that bridges the gap between minigun and smg type

>ywn have a laser BAR or plasma BREN

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at least we got shotgun lasermuskets in 4
i can't remember if we got laser flintlock pistols though

it's actually because they're lazy fucks and they don't want complex animations where the left hand has to reach over / under the gun to get to the charging handle on the right side of the receiver.

This is the gayest looking gun I’ve ever seen. The alphabet people should just use this as their logo and everyone would instantly know they’re hedonistic degenerates.

>High velocity bullets pass right through you
>Also the high velocity 5.56 does the exact opposite and bounces around

Dog-gun.

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Referring to yourself doesn't make it true dipshit.

What a good boy.

>Apply directly to target and pull trigger.

ITT Yea Forums tries and fails to talk about terminal ballistics

I didn't play or enjoy 4 much. Don't remember liking the weapon designs very much.

>.32 caliber doesn't exist.

How about .32 S&W Long? Fucking retard.

5.56 tumbles on impact creating a larger wound channel. If the bullet didn't tumble, it would go straight through dealing the same damage as any other round that passes through. You want tumbling on impact or the bullet to remain inside or to fragment to deal more damage.

NOOOOOOO I CANT SEE THE BAG GUYS. MY BIG LEGO GUN IS BLOKCING MY VIEW

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i don't remember anything about it and i spent like 300 hours on it
i didn't even bother with mods
vaguely remember using a double shot gauss rifle and walking through the entire game though

fallout 3 my zoomer friend, not fallout 4

It's pretty much worthless. If there's no barrel then the propellant in the shell won't accelerate the pellets properly. You'd probably get better performance out of an old flintlock blunderbuss full of black powder and shot.

Yikes! There sure are alotta Incels in this thread.

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The only weapon I liked was the lasermusket, everything else sucked shit.

you'd need so much "trigger" discipline to use that fucking thing
>fist bump friend
>kill them
>clench fist in anger
>blow leg off
>try and grab or pick up item
>blow it to smithereens
>put hands together to look tough
>blow arm off
>rub back of head to scratch itch
>no one finds your head
wasn't there one that injected mini grenades into the object punched too

The weapon is fired upon hitting something with the pressure plate on the fist, not by the action of clenching one's fist.

I never suggested it didn't tumble, I just thought that user was contradicting himself. The tumbling is a normal thing that bullets do. No clue if other rounds fragment the same at close range like 5.56, not considering hollowpoints or civilian rounds

If it's inefficient for you then maybe you should not be able to own a firearm since your vision is shit

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yeah i guess that makes sense actually
shit

>that face
Not in a million years

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This gun is so ugly I never use it. Especially when scope+stock takes up half the screen

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Why would I fuck stacy when I can fuck my guns?

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For the love of all that is good and holy, please don’t put your dick in the barrel.

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I always see people complain about the machine guns, but can we talk about how bad the automatic laser is? I love the Bethesda laser rifle because it looks like a solid state rifle. Just a casted unibody with some electronics inside. The automatic version just shits on this with needless mechanical parts. It should be solid state!

The f4 gatling laser gets a pass tho because it is built by the BoS, and while they should be smart enough to wire a solid-state fire control and just cluster the barrels together, I can buy that the barrels must be space apart for passive cooling and the rotation is just to keep a constant firing position for aiming the weapon.

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kek your retarded ass is going to imply that all optics are magnified? Just stop while you're ahead.

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Really ugly ENB.

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Can you describe what you'd imagine an ideal automatic laser rifle would look like.

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Why is everything pink and orange.

oh shit

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Are you telling me that the adrenaline pumping action that would occur as modern logistics and infrastructure fail and the resulting collective apeshit moment by the lower rungs of society during the wilding would NOT be exciting? I'd be having great times and if I happened to die? It couldn't be any worse than watching the shitshow that is the west right now.

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You claim you'd have a great time, while I'm sure most of your expertise regarding "SHTF" scenarios revolves around videogames and films. When people are shooting at you, "exciting" probably won't be the word you use to describe it anymore.

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Probably latest Farcry inspired

ITT we pretend "exciting" has an implicit positive connotation

is the only implying the positive connotation.

>i can't aim properly and need a tacticool red dot to help me because my eyes are shit!
I sleep...

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where does the ammo come from?

To be fair, ironsights are usually shit in games because devs can't decide where your should align the ironsight. For some guns the bullet always land at the bottom of the irons, sometimes it's slightly above, and always for whatever reason, slapping a tacticool sight on will improve accuracy.
Retarded Yea Forumsirgins think their vidya experience translates to real life

They originally planned for it to use shotgun shells like in Fallout Tactics but the engine wouldn't allow it.

i guess the intention is to wear it with power armour and assume your arm is like some massive drum of shells or something

oh it was in Tactics too?
i need to play it

Ideally it should just look like the normal laser rifle. Maybe the emitter is built with heavier materials to cope with heat. And if the design needs multiple emitters, do it like the previous gatling laser where the emitters are fixed. Just for flair, I would make the automatic laser rifle be like a double barrel (over-under) version of the normal laser rifle, with fire alternating from each barrel.

Yeah Tactics had a shit ton of weapons. It's focused more on being a tactical RTS rather than a "Fallout" game. Primary focus on combat, considering the only interaction with NPCs is trading equipment and gambling. No dialogue.

pic is old gatling laser

laser weapons should have no moving parts

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i think i'm too much of a brainlet for squad based tactical real time combat

*eyes bug out of head*
hubba hubbba
awwoooo
*whistles*
*tongue hangs out*
*stamps foot*
*slaps knee*

If you can play Fallout 1 and 2, Tactics shouldn't be much different. Might be a bit more boring if you like Fallout for the roleplaying.

I’ve found them to be too good in games. For example, they usually use fake or night time rear apertures, which are way larger than real life or day time apertures. In reality, this would give you a huge margin of error, making it difficult to aim properly, but video games automatically perfectly line your sights up for you, which prevents a large rear aperture from being a detriment. Which it would be, hence why you’re not supposed to use a night aperture during the day.

>Projection
>It won't be "exciting" when bad thing happens to you!
I like it when bad things happen, some of the happiest moments in my life have been walking away from car crashes. It also tends to bring people together in a way that monotony does not. Would I shit and piss and cum my pants if I was being shot at? Probably. Maybe I should assemble a system of tacti-tubes that funnel it all out the bottom of my pants

Oh I see you're just being edgy.

i think the change from turn based to real time is a big thing, i dunno

>using an enb
cancer

>weapon is called an smg
>doesn't benefit from any smg/pistol perks
fuck this gun

Your favorite gun is a piece of shit.

Still mad the R91 wasn't in the game.

nice flaming cheetos

respectable

Grenade Machine Gun

Grenade Machine Gun

>still no gun named 'Sticks and Stones' that shoots words which break the enemy's bones

Pew Pew. The true treasure of the Mojave.

>im pro gun
>but
>BUT
fuck your own face

Now post the endgame models with the upgrades

based

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I jut realized there is a shocking lack of pump action in Fallout

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this post destroyed me thank you

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There is no pump-action, period. Too complex for Bethesda animators. I believe the lever-action rifle reload glitch in Fallout 4 remains unpatched to this day.

you can get a pump action 12ga in NV
And a pump action 40mm grenade launcher
But yeah its not bethesda so...

Yeah I was specifically talking about 4.

Yuck

>why the fuck is there absolutely no mods to make pipe guns actually look well designed rather than just replacing them with other guns outright?
Because replacing them with other guns outright is far better solution. To have a gorillion properly designed firearms still widely available (sometimes still manufactured) around the post post apocalyptic US after 200 years is to draw upon the stereotype that Americans are a bunch of crazy gun nuts who can bare any fucking arms we want up to tactical nukes. There shouldn't be any good reason why it's impossible to find a motherfucking revolver in the land that created and worshipped it and instead having to make your own in a cave with of a box of scraps, and you can't even do that in Fallout 4 which pretty much defeats the whole idea of having a line of weapons fashioned out of salvaged waterworks in the game in the first place.

cringe

Fucking moron.

Why is there circuitry built into a 10mm SMG.

Realistically most guns would be lost to 200 years of rusting. Things like the 1911 surviving because of mormons passing it down or the Gun Runners hoarding weapon old world weapon schematics is just the fucking greatest thing.

Pipe pistols being a pale imitation of a lost culture fits well.

>All of them are right hand punches only

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>You can only wear a single boxing glove.

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>unarmed weapons
>Having a weapon
>unarmed
They should just rename unarmed to PUNCH.

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>NRA existed before gun owners and manufacturers
Stop, just stop. Youre an ignorant moron.

Don't forget the pump action holorifle

Shotguns were so much fun in NV.
And Stay Back + Shotgun Surgeon + Hunting Shotgun means you can pretty much solo the Legendary Deathclaw and Cazadors head on without having to sneak.

They were lazy asses and cut down on the amount and complexity of animations. Meanwhile New Vegas has a shitload of different reload AND faulty weapon animations.
youtube.com/watch?v=pGYQfW4MrPA

Yet they still felt it necessary to move the hunting rifle bolt over to the left side.

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Stay Back + Riot Shotgun + Implant GRX so you can fucking air juggle ragdolling enemies with a shotgun like its Devil May Cry or something.

Implant GRX is game breaking. Once you get it you can win any encounter from then on with no issues. I tend to avoid it and just use turbo for that reason.

It's not a shotgun, ill just tape my flashlight to the barrel, thanks.

The army commissioned several weapons manufacturers. Glock and Winchester were asked to make Plasma weapons. A fictional company named Wattz made Laser weapons, as well as the small energy cells.
Regular, run of the mill rifles exist, and Todd and Friends suddenly pretending they dont in FO4 is insulting at best and aggravating at worst depending on your viewpoint.

So when given the choice between simply mounting it on a rail or retardedly taping it to your gun, you opt for the latter simply to spite the newer technique. Simply based.

I think SIG Sauer also made that 12.7mm pistol

>Wile E. Coyote finally gets sick of the Road Runner's shit

F
Goblin Commander was slick

the Alternator's damage is both the strongest out of the SMG class and it's recoil is purely horizontal. Coordinating it with your hardcore parkour is why its popular with grappling hook niggas because its damn punchy no matter the range.

Yes, because when you shoot a watermelon with a 50 bmg it just passes right through.

Hey guy, you can stop posting screenshots, youre NV looks like vomit. Sorry to break it to ya.

sight acquisition, stupid fat mallcop niggers

new vegas was made by a studio that actually gives a shit

Yeah, correct.
Colt made the 6520 10mm as well, and the N99 variant.
The 6520 was an autoloading revolver, and its simple design could be easily replicated. With how durable revolvers are in real life, it's not that far fetched that the 6520 would survive the desert like conditions.

The blockier N99 was introduced in 3 onward.
Really not fucking sure why they went with the design they did in 4. It looks really cumbersome.

fun little trivia: the 6520 was actually referenced wholesale from the main character's choice of firearm in the Hard Boiled comic books.

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>Fallout 4

>nobody has made a good mod of any of those for Fo4

It's Fallout 76 you bloody idiot

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the carry handle is an optics mount you fucking mongoloid

Real the filename you fucking twat.

The 10mm SMG, plasma defender, 12.7mm SMG, gatling laser and I think flamer all are available as mods in Fallout 4. Whether or not they're "good" is up to you.

just noticed the revolver cylinder despite being mag fed...

Far Cry 2 did this as well, but the in-universe explanation in that was all of the weapons you could get were mass-produced knockoffs that could be easily shipped, sold, and recollected.

FO4 has no fucking excuse.

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you could mount optics ontop of the carry handle, special forces in nam did. starlight scopes also had unique mounting brackets, etc etc.

I realized it after posting, my bad

Blame that one Service rifle mod that's top notch quality.

I miss far cry 2

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Always wanted to try multiplayer and do mortar fights on the boats. Big heavy sad sigh

I keep being blocked in one of the first missions of the game, some black guy in a bar gives me a quest, but when I come back he refuses to talk to me and calls me a "fascist" or some shit.

How do I fix this?

Is it an optional quests.

I'm pretty sure it's not
hasn't been on it in a while so I don't remember the exact details

The far cry 2 mercenary is even worse about gun safety than Artyom is

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Heres a tip with guns, never say something doesn't exist because it does

what is the point of this pistol in-game, you get the 10mm right off the bat and it's better in literally every regard, the .32 does damage only slightly better than the BB gun, nearly no value and just takes up inventory space

Just a weak weapon for low level raiders to use and for you to sell.

if the ammo was more plentiful it would be a decent alternative since shitty raiders wouldn't have 10mm but by the time you're finding it in reasonable amounts it's from super mutants with hunting rifles and then you just have the fucking hunting rifle