Name one thing that would make TF2 better

Name one thing that would make TF2 better

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gay sex with hats on

Remove autobalance

remove random crits

The choice is yours, Yea Forums.

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Green

Waifus

Time limits on payload race and ctf

Green

Red is easily dealt with by a server admin/settings

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fpbp

Moving the focus of class balance to focus on pubs/casual instead of catering to the vocal (extreme) minority of competitive.

Roll back to the manconnomy update and delete it. Make hats continue to drop but never add in a store, also require every update adding cosmetics to add at least 3 weapons to it. Finally remove weapons skins and stat track shit.

Playing TF2 Classic instead

red is for oldfags that actually played tf2 before they ruined it
green is for competetive niggers that want to ruin it even further

uninstalling

Red

>the majority of Yea Forums are sniper mains

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Nothing, I just queueing in casual for an hour or two with my morning coffee before work. It's peak comfy and gets my mind prepped for the day ahead.

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Easy

Build a time machine and go back to 2008-2010

>Upward is top
>Turbine not in top 10
Zoom zoom zoom

Actual developers

TF3

stopwatch for AD/PL and bo5 for the rest. I don't understand how they fucked up matchmaking that badly

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Wanna know how I know you're not an oldfag?

Free batlle passes that do not expire.

Finishing the comic.

Autobalance is positive though
And even more with the garbage matchmaking we have currently
This is an obvious green push.

This menu background

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>tfw Pipeline is basically dead and no server runs it
I miss my favorite map.

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They already tried that when matchmaking came out and it was an absolute shitshow

RED and it's not even close. Fuck autobalance, and give me back my Ambassador

>process 7th in the CP list
>not even in the top 20
What a garbage taste.

UPDATES
FUCKING
MORE UPDATES
MORE WEAPONS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

New fucking weapons and less fucking hats, and I don't mean gay ass reskins, I mean completely new weapons with new stats and new looks

because you're butthurt that im right?

IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR

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>Remove cosmetics
>Remove crates and the Mannconomy
>Remove F2P scum, make the game cost money again
>Remove random crits
There, I just fixed TF2.

overwatchbros.... how could they do this to us........

should have never been in the game

Fuck off. No autobalance means even harder steamrolls.

worth using simply for the taunt kill

racial slurs

Red just for the weapon changes

Casuals games are already steamrolls thanks to horrible Glicko algorithm

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Remove medic
Remove engineer
Remove gunboats
Add more health packs to the maps

Because oldfags would love to see matchmaking and hats gone, you idiot. Only someone who joined within the last year could fail as badly at LARPing as you do.

no bro us oldfags have always loved random crits and if you disagree I'm calling you an ecelebfag

>remove engineer
lmao scout stomps every game.

yeah thats kinda the whole point of the image that there is no only good one
however the red one has a bigger impact on the game

Remove the sniper rifle

REDREDREDREDREDRED

Good
Every game should be decided by soldier and scout chads duking it out

a sniper call voice command
a sorry voice command
team scramble for every new round on casual

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Yea Forums will defend this.

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Remove hats
Remove random crits/spread
Remove matchmaking
Ban F2P shitters and everyone on Yea Forums

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Every bat you use has the same killtaunt retard.

Green but keep random crits

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LARPing implies it's live action role play, what he said wasn't live action but probably was roleplay

>stun doesn't last for long
>good for escaping and hit-and run tactics
>good strategic advantage for 1v1s
>gets rebalanced
>literally less than worthless
I think the sandman's big downfall is that it didn't really have any exact playstyle in mind and that it was too good in 1v1 scenarios, but completely removing the one thing that was most iconic about the weapon and the most fun to use? That wasn't the fucking way to go about changing it.
reminder that despite the Sandman getting nerfed into the ground, the Third Degree is still the only weapon in the game that is a completely straight upgrade

Dang, forgot about that
Remove scout double jump

>i want tf2 to be overwatch
pretty cringe senpai desu

NEVER EVER SCOUTKEKS

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>kill the game entirely
How about no. Instead, why not include an in game tutorial that covers every important detail in TF2, and then balance all unlocks to not be crutches

>buhh remove random crits
You guys realize that that would kill the game right?
Only thing they should do is that they should make them actually random

>no hats
>no matchmaking
>overwatch

green
FUCK matchmaking
FUCK hats
I'll probably miss crits though

bring sprays back
Also the last comic

Why would that kill the game.

>he's too new to remember team scrambles
Check out the enclosed Global Rules!

>You guys realize that that would kill the game right?
Redditors and Yea Forums would whine about it for a month and then you'd all move on.

>tfw no more titan slayer combo
>will never annihalte a heavy medic combo in 4 seconds with a well placed ball knife shortstop shot
>will never tag soldiers from the sky then knife them for instant death
FUCK
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Autobalance puts teammates that contribute the most to their team on the enemy team. It punishes teamwork in a game with "team" in the name.

I started playing in 2015 and I honestly don't know how to join servers. I've only used quickplay/ casual

The one thing that would make TF2 better would be the 10th class that counters Soldier.

Because I like them and if you dislike them ur a retard

anything that counters soldier would counter everything in the game unless it had a rocket repelling force field or something

>new players get their shit stomped in every scenario possible, non stop
>they quit the game after playing for 3 hours
>no fresh meat
>game
Also many stories to tell, etc.

>sandman
>ambassador
>THE CABER THE CABER
>booties
>claydhemwhateverthefuck
easy RED push.

just change the name then

There's so many small things that could help but one thing would make it so much better. Remove matchmaking. Sure servers like skial are still up and running, but it was those small pop up communities that made the game the most worth it regardless of the current balance of the game.

Reverting the competitive matchmaking update.

>new players get their shit stomped in every scenario possible, non stop
Random crits heavily favor better players. Soldier, demo, and scout benefit the most from random crits while sniper and spy get almost nothing from them and you get more crits the more damage you do.

>trimp with caber into enemy team and take out everything including yourself
It was beautiful ;_;

pic not related, btw

Cum taunt for sniper where he shoots a really long range cum shot

>oldfags
oh, you mean random retard e-celebs with a shit opinion on everything, as opposed to actual oldfags on Yea Forums?

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I miss the old Shortstop every day

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>as opposed to actual oldfags on Yea Forums?
They don't play the game anymore.
>inb4 angry partyvan shitters who have never heard of teek or fighting amphibians

one of few people on this thread with good thinking

>and then balance all unlocks to not be crutches
And then you get this

lol retard

I immediately discard the opinion of anyone who uses the word "crutch".

red, matchmaking may be cancer but at least if you have fun weapons you can dick around on other servers

Any faggot that picks red probably didn't start playing until at least 2012.

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Crits dont favour better players because they are going to win the encounter 100% of the time against 0-100 hour players anyways. It definitely benefits newbies more

Hey user, I found a picture of you on the internet!

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They should have never added new weapons in. It completely changes certain classes and the flow of the game is fucked hard into a messy fucking mess.
It should have been a note right at the front page of their design document: no matter what, do not change or add weapons.

RED

>pick up game for the first time in almost half a decade
>look at the economy

So what caused refined metal to become so worthless? There doesn't seem to be any really viable way to get stranges anymore.

Killing off TF2 as it is now is the best possible thing that could happen to the game. Hats, the Mannconomy, and F2P all ruined the game and need to be purged.

>lost all my items a while ago and stopped playing because of it
>they still haven't updated the game in that time

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KEY DUPE GLITCH WHEN?

This, don't tell me TF2 wouldn't be more fun with a few thousand veterans keeping it alive.

Refined = infinite resource with no sink
Keys = "finite" resource with a sink

Your average black box conch, sticky spam, crit flare, natasha, skullcutter user

That sounds fucking boring. I like finding oblivious F2Ps trying to learn as much as I enjoy finding a challenge, it makes the game feel alive and like it's not just a big old people home.

it's literally worthless. Just thinking about it logically it never really made sense for keys to be so cheap since they're the things that make the economy go

How about we all go work for Valve, then work on the TF2 team, add new weapons, balance them before adding them in to begin with, balance the old ones so they are enjoyable to use and not unenjoyable to fight against, optimize the game as much as possible and add option to disable cosmetics, possibly add a new class

>community handling the game
no fucking thanks

Make pyro a woman and you have a deal

>we
Seeing the kinds of posts I see here I'd rather have the current dev team

Red
Gimme my tomislav spinup time back
And my sandman too.

You're probably thinking about end of the line and invasion, Valve fucked those up by their sheer laziness. There were supposed to be new weapons and less cosmetics, but Valve being Valve decided on cosmetics and shitty maps. Honestly the community actually knows what the players want, Valve just doesn't feel like doing the work and giving it to them

>he unironically misses scrambling every match and before tbe match can even end and then restarting the match

Fuck scramble

What and no

Easily red. Give me my saharan spy set and dead ringer back

Red. Hats arent the problem unusuals are.

test

Based.

>dead ringer
fuck you

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Red.

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upvoted redditbro

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FUCKING OPTIMIZATION UPDATES TO THE INGAME CONFIGURATIONS
THE DEFAULTS ARE STILL SO SHIT, THE FOV IS SHIT, THE TUTORIALS ARE SHIT

Also- a program that removes/blocks certain cosmetic models, so you can have your own stylized TF2 experience with only the hats you deem fitting showing up in the game/it saves memory and whathaveyou

Was even more trolly with the saharan spy set
>no dead ringer decloak sound
>your eternal reward gives silent kills
>your eternal reward gives instant disguises upon kill
I’ll admit old DR was a str8 upgrade to IW as was saharan spy set, but its still nothing OP compared to demo/soldier/scout.
Even with that set and old DR spy was still the worst class in game or 2nd worst.
Now DR is complete trash as is YER. It added a different playstyle but now its gone. Should’ve just removed YER and DR instead of gutting them.

Literally all of those can be fixed in 2 minutes with a quick search and a couple lines into the console

Literally just revert to before MyM, we had quickplay instead of shitty casual and community servers hadn't been killed yet.

How would you fix deadringer to make it viable but not annoying?

If disguised as an ally
>90% damage reduction to first hit
>no speed boost
>10 second cloak time
>30% damage reduction to all subsequent hits
>IW decloak sound effect
>no cooldown on deadringer, can use ammo to refill like normal

If disguised as an enemy or undisguised
>90% damage reduction for first hit and all subsequent hit
>speed boost
>5 second cloak time (cannot decloak until times up)
>no cooldown on deadringer, but can no longer backstab for 10 seconds (can use knife but no backstabs)

Just
>90% damage reduction for all first hits
>speed
>90% damage reduction for bullets while still cloaked
>no damage reduction for explosives (rockets, nades, stickies)
Fixes spy, only ones crying about DR were soldiers and demos anyways

>Honestly the community actually knows what the players want

The dumb fucking argument on random crits and listening to people like Soundsmith proves this laughably incorrect.

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>7 months ago
I saw that pic at least a year ago

R E E D

but you're wrong you double retard

I don't follow TF2 in any real way anymore, what has Soundsmith done?

Eh seems pretty nasty then, even if youre convincing random splash will hit you and nearly guarantee kill you.

Honestly DR only bothered me as engy because they would just non stop come back, and even if you lock them in a corner or something they could pick up ammo and restart again.

I think the biggest problem is that you never feel like you disable the spy. Somehow i get that feeling with the cooldown, or maybe spies no longer use DR.

Imagine someone who mains Soldier, acknowledges how powerful Soldier is and still begs for Soldier buffs while insisting Heavy, Engineer, Sniper and Pyro get nerfed

He's a vapid dicksucker who puts out soulless content yet still somehow got popular.

Holy fuck this.
NEVER listen to your community without a grain of salt. If they're complaining 9 times out 10 theyre just whining.
You can use that as a metric to see how unfun something is, but nothing else.

Sniper needs a nerf to be fair.
I cant stand autistically good snipers.

Who's a TF2 e-celeb that everyone agrees is good?

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turn the really shitty weapons into something less shitty

e-celebs are inherently the very definition of cancer and you are a nigger for eating up their shit and advertising them for free

i still play it once a blue moon, if only to see how shit it became and:
>eceleb niggers

Not really e-celeb but that's exactly why he is /ourguy/

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Rewrite its stats.

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>Jerma and Ster
Don't remind me.

The only good one on that whole image is Jerma

Remove the shield from wrangler, dont bother splitting it. The shield is so fucking broken, that any nerf for the shield will just make the wrangler less fun to use.

Maybe buff the shooting or something so that its easier to use. Maybe remove the giant laser so engineers arent so obvious when using it.

Just remove the shield. You should not have to deal 1000 damage to a sentry because an engy pressed 2 and 3.

Fuck if they need to split it, have it deal LESS damage when shielded.

Many of these people don't even make TF2 vidya and/or are/have become the definition of cancer though.

This guy is the only good one.

no, this is wrong so wrong
after breakfast>purple> everyone else>power vacuum>>>>>>>>>more power vacuum>>>>>>>>b4nny

Heavy in smash

88 damage base. Rights have extended range, lefts do minicrits.

>this is wrong, so wrong*
i forgot the comma after wrong

>haha epic meme niggers in top tier
>cancer in great tier
>good tier filled with literal scrubs
>watchable being just cancer except that german dude but he still sucks at game
whoever made this can go overdose by injecting liquid shit into his veins

Funny enough they actually already have those, it's just non-valve servers turn it off

There was an old youtuber that would main demoknight back when the controller glitch existed. They had a dark stalkers pic.

Id pick them just because their style was cool as fuck, and was really fun to play against and as.
Shame valve never normalised it outside the tide turner.

Red because the game would instantly die without hats. I don't care for hats myself, but I know a majority froth at the mouth over them.

Soundsmith may be the single most passive-aggressive thing ever spawned on this planet. every single word that comes out of his nasally fucking mouth is laden with a drawn-out syllable, inquisitive intonation, intentional stutter, or an "uh..." or "ehhh..." Good fucking LORD I hate every ounce of ATP that fuels his cells and every last molecule of CO2 that passes through his stupid fucking windpipe.

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bring back sudden death, or make it a rare event.

>Mannhattan at 1 and Decoy last
The fuck guys

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Official cosmetics for sentry guns and dispensers

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>sprays on buildings
>smut on the dispenser screen.

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I'm glad someone else notices that smug, overly calculated manner of speaking he has in every video. Perfectly said.

why do I have to pick
give me pre manconnomy tf2 and I will be happy forever

Better idea:
You suck a penis.

Just update the game. I'm not gonna say some biased shit. Attention is all it needs.
If we're talking about TF2 youtubers, I wish more people would be aware of Whomobile. His Weird Maps series is a thorough investigation into many old TF2 maps that is very comfy to watch. Recently he has the Item Origins series which is actually well researched. He's also a mapper so he actually knows his shit about the game.
Look, he even covered harbl_hotel:
youtube.com/watch?v=lD8g8ThfsXo

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>DO I FIT IN YET

Funny enough there was Stopwatch during the early days of MyM.

>no arena

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Fucking hell, glad someone sees it like it is. I mean, it's not like his points are especially bad, but holy fucking shit he could agree with me on literally anything, from the game, to politics to dinner recipes and I wouldn't be able to stand him talking for an attosecond. He could display the best plays in casual and comp; he could save my life on multiple occasions and keep in contact with me; he could be the single most compatible being with me in the world, but holy shit, if I had to hear his stupid fucking voice through any of it, my Floridian ass would feed him to the fucking gators.

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>he never experienced pre-2011 TF2
I'm sorry for you, guy.

Remove friendly fire on melee attacks. That right there is literally the worst shit in the game.

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No

user...that's not a thing at all

Explain.

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Add a dedicated fart button

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There is no friendly fire on melee attacks.

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>the noisemaker slot hasnt had anything made for it in 8 years

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You're delusional if you don't think that autobalance and hackers are the real threat.

Nerf Spy and Heavy

You fucking mongos. If you try to melee an enemy while you stand in a friendly's hitbox you will hit the friendly instead.

Those do suck, but I miss the SOUL of community servers more than I hate autobalance.

Hoooooooooly shit
Im not sure if you worded it wrong, but hitting your allies instead of the enemy is the absolute most infuriating shit in the game.

Ive seen groups of people gang up on a guy in melee and die because of this stupid bullshit.

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Removing matchmaking would solve both of those problems.

Remove autobalance. For people playing with friends.

Make 3 characters canonically gay and a fourth one into a transman

You really explained it poorly then. "Friendly fire" isn't the phrase I would've used to describe that phenomenon then, that's often attached with actually damaging your teammates. Just say you don't want your teammates' hitboxes to take priority when trying to hit an enemy with a melee attack.

Daily reminder, valve killed community servers because they dared threaten their cosmetic cash cow with server plugins.

The matchmaking is shitshow

Turbine is shit

Game is already dead.
People just idle in trade servers nowadays

Switch Release.

No, seriously. What the hell valve? Nintendo and valve would be serious ownage.

You can't describe it in a concise way that lets you say "remove thing" besides friendly fire. You hit the friendly, that counts as friendly fire to me.

no furries

>RED
Oh loch n load how I missed ya

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Uh no?

FUCK SV_PURE AND FUCK WEAPON SKINS

I like this guy, very wholesome.

>green instead of a blue button

auto vac ban anyone whining about random crits

Ironically you used to be able to team swap back before autobalance was removed.

I honestly have no clue why valve never brought that back.

Did they actually try to balance matchmaking, and assumed choosing teams would fuck with the preordained teams chosen for the player?

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>Sprays are still disabled on valve servers
FUCK YOU VALVE I WANT TO POST MY BIG ANIME TITTIES WHY THE FUCK DO YOU STOP ME?!

This wouldnt be an issue if we didnt all play on valve servers.

A tenth class.

and anyone who uses a lenny bind

>tfw something fucking weird happend just half an hour ago and i could spray shit and people could see it

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Allegedly hidden files and child porn.
And because valve servers are unmoderated, theres no way to stop it.

Which is kind of gay, they want to run servers of their own, shunt off community servers, and not put in the effort to moderate them.

Anyone else miss Parkour Fortress? It's gone...

If they already saw that spray on a non-valve server they'll be able to see it on valve servers until they delete the file from their own computer.

I want team scramble after each round back, less of a bitch unlike autobalance

That just means they saw your spray on a different server. You CAN spray on valve servers, they just wont download it on the valve server.

>A sorry voice command
Would be a good idea honestly. Always feel bad about kill steals.

Game already team scrambles every other match you nonce. If you did every match your likely to never play the opposite team.

BUT here's the thing i was playing with a friend (you know tf2 night time) and didn't download shit 'cause he doesn't play on comunnity servers.

But sniper and spy are the classes that are best done with experienced players. Soldier is stupid simple to get an understanding of.

Sapped enemy sentries are visible through walls.
I actually see this when teleporting in, and its absurdly powerful.

Also spies dont show up through walls/wall sight goes away after using a tele. If youre spy checking and see someone that wasnt there before, you already could tell he was a spy. Being able to watch their movements, decloak, obviously camp is way more powerful.

I said round, and I know you get team scramble after the whole match but there is no point; nobody stays
>If you did every match your likely to never play the opposite team.
Custom servers had pluggings to mostly mix stacks and let you play two or three matches in different teams, it wasnt such a big fuzz.

Could have downloaded way before hand.
Unless its a new spray or you NEVER played community servers.

It could also be an old file that other people use. Ive seen some meme sprays like the fading sniper.

Its also possible they just download shit to friends in groups.

Round is what i meant to say. They scramble every other round.

Dont reload the map if everyone votes the same map. Remove the pregame find time when same maps are picked.

Im really annoyed theres so much downtime between matches.

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There is no current dev team, cause there will be no devlopement.

Mmm i don't know he says he doesn't have any spray other that a 'Municipal waste' one. Maybe is the TF2 coordinator that went down a few minutes ago.

You found the funny good job

Remove sniper, make pyro more like lightning gun, make airblast only push back ubered targets. Remove medic speed match on patient.

Have him check the file full of downloaded sprays.

Think its like io or maybe ui or something, look it up.

People on your Friends list can see your sprays, regardless of being on official servers or not.

>Remove medic speed match on patient.
Seriously why is this a thing outside quickfix.

Does anyone else ever get a bug where a sapper literally won't come off of their sentry?

Yeah that's my issue with heavy. They just kept popping up. They'd come in I'd "kill" them then they'd run away and pop back up. I had the same spy "die" 3 times before I actually killed him once as heavy. It was fucking stupid.

>green
>removing matchmaking destroys the point of removing random crits
>literally too stupid to install a simple mod

>red
>getting rid of autobalance is objectively a bad thing and anyone who disagrees never played when it was disabled
>getting rid of hackers and shit nerfs are the only good things here
holy shit make a better one next time retard

man I miss when lazypurple was good. He's been shit since he came back

>tfw been playing this game since 2008 and I have never watched a single TF2 youtuber

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>friends have been able to see my porn sprays

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To keep up with Scout. They could just make Medic AS fast as the Scout by default.

Why? There's maybe one good sniper in a sea of shitters so I'm fine with them.

>make the best class even better
stop

heh

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>have brother on friend's list
>spray is fetish porn

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Fix melee hitboxes would work too.

>competitive niggers wanting to remove matchmaking

remove random spread on shotgun its already a secondary that requires skill to deal more than single digit damage
scattergun keeps spread though
random crits is fine

I'm only laughing to cover up the tears .y friend.

-Bring back love and war sticky bomb nerf
-Reduce sniper headshots to 50dmg with 150dmg max charge

They do actually.

How to fix baby face blaster

>raise damage threshold to 100 for boost lost
>once 25% or more boost is lost, the scout cannot lose boost again for 2 seconds
>eg: a scout loses 65 health to a melee swing, he loses 65% boost, but cannot lose boost again for 2 seconds
And
>eg: a pyro hits him, due to the pyros damage calculation, he can only drop the scout by 30% (if he managed to get 24 damage and then the next particle did 6)

So if you nick the scout he'll run close to normal speed and you can have an easier time with a direct follow up shot.

But scouts wont be crawling every time they get nicked.

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>Just make the class with health Regen and one of the best melee outside demo and spy even faster
What a horrific idea. I think it'd be chaotically stupid and fun if only for a bit though.

Last night every match i joined was full of highlander snipers. It gets old.

>\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf\materials\temp
EVERYTHING IS FURRY SHIT AND HAT KID SPRAYS

>No airblasting projectiles
>No sniper
>Remove medic speed boost
You're a soldier main aren't you Squidward?

Without a healing patient, quick fix should allow medic to run at scout speed.

This stacks with overdose

Nice

Buff the sentry by giving it double its health. Make it so sappers only require one hit to remove. Have wrenches heal twice as fast. Make it so snipers and scouts do 90% less damage to them.

NO, I'M NOT AN ENGI MAIN. WHY DO YOU ASK?

The only real fix is fixing the hitboxes. It would be the only way to make the BFB and the DFury good again without the broken part

It's funny how obvious some of the recs are, aren't they?

Im fine with this if home wrecker is removed or reworked.

Like christ could you imagine if sandviches revived medics after they die, with their entire uber charge?

I don't mind as much, but that seems to be cause I get the opposite team.

buff all weapons, except pyro ones

True for dfury, but what does the hitbox even apply too, snipers headshotting them?

It might sound retarded, but I think thats fine. Snipers shouldnt headshot sanic scouts. High skill snipers are like the card sharks of tf2.

Powerjack is the true Pyro upgrade. It doesn't even mark you for death or decrease your health like the nu-GRU

>no tagg
>star_ not on the same level with jermbo
shit chart get fucking b&

Honestly all pyro melees should focus on utility like powerjack, backscratcher, and conscious objector.

Objector is just stock though

tagg is a retarded nigger faggot, literally
star is mediocre without jerma and hes hated tf2 for the past 5 years

It doesn't mark you for death, but it does increase the damage you take while it's active.

Which there's already a hundred things that do that. Short Circuit energy ball, airblast, vaccinator shield, wrangler, demo's shields

Green has downsides.
>lose my dressup game
Reliable Demolition and Excavation doesn't.
>get caber and old Heavy, GRU and FoS back

How is this even a choice, user?

How is this even a choice?

every good melee in the game is already strictly used for its utility except demoknight

>rde
wait fuck

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If you like fun you would pick RED
Only retarded Blizzard brains would go for green

Most classes can do well with using their melee weapon as an actual melee weapon, it's really only Soldier, Heavy, and Pyro that have no reason to ever use theirs and just go for utility.

Just remove that fucking awful briefcase quest system. At least give me a way to disable it. TF2 never needed dailies.

its not dailies though?

minicrits are far worse than even an equal amount of damage boost. Ignoring falloff is powerful as fuck

True, but pyro actually has no use for melee all together. his entire kit is focussed around melee, and if hes not instantly killing something in close range, hes fucked. Pulling out your melee weapon better mean it does 200 some damage instantly, or its worthless compared to flamethrower.

remove 98% of all community items
remove all community maps
remove all valve maps but hightower

>scout hitbox is at least 5-10 meters behind the model of the scout
>not broken
It was so damn unplayable

Which doesn't matter because why the fuck would you use it for anything but to go fast

I'd argue without shotgun, heavies melee comes into play occassionally.

Rarely though due to his abysmal speed.
Which seems to never be considered when valve rebalances melees. Katana sucks shit for soldier because he can't catch up to anything.
Demo swords in general also suck, and were balanced by their long range due to his shit movement speed.
No random crits and loss of health was a pretty hefty downside. Longer range did nothing to alleviate it, only to balance his movement.

A steering wheel that doesnt fly off when you're driving

I know marked for death is worse, I was just saying you do still get a damage vulnerability.

You can still take hits while going fast. Also danger shield snipers.

Objector is the most powerful melee weapon and the hardest for shitters to counter due to its mind game system.

if used properly it can shut down an entire team by forcing them to quit the match

Saying sorry would be out of character for over half the cast

I'll go RED
Gimme old Caber, Atomizer, Pretty Boy's pocket pistol, Your Eternal Reward, Dead Ringer, Claidheamh Mòr, Sandman, Panic Attack, Reserve Shooter, Resque Ranger, Soda Popper, Baby Face's Blaster and B.A.S.E Jumper

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zenomite is pure crap. he thinks hes some ironic comedy king but just comes across as a bully victim in school to me

Revert all rescue ranger nerfs.
split the rescue ranger between ranged healing, and picking up your sentry from afar.

The pickup version requires you to hit your sentry to pick it up, but costs 0 metal
Picking up your sentry in anyway instantly heals it.
You can also pick up any ammo boxes you hit with the pickup ranger, automatically giving you the metal.

The healing version is simply the prenerf version, you can no longer place it in obnoxious locations and heal it (without a tele). Additionally you can no longer pick up the wrangled sentry you healed from afar.

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THIS

Add a black woman character

this, the whole draw of the tf2 cast is that they're all fucking insane megalomaniacs

I'm pretty sure it's always better to rev up your minigun unless maybe you're using the brass beast due to a combination of being the slowest class and minigun being the deadliest close range primary.

This but latina reskin of the spy.
She can jump on people and insta kill them by suffocating them with her thighs.

Fund it valve.

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out in the open it is, but if you're in some hallway or area that you can be flanked, heavy will get butt fucked by peaking.

reverting back before the meet your match update

>Random crits and matchmaking on the same button
Dane you fucking idiot, knock it off with your Zionist tier bullshit

But what if 2 engineers team up togheter

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Compfags want to remove matchmaking now because literally the entire custom server community hates them now.

would it be any different if two engineers teamed up now?

The primary issue is that rescue ranger sucks on blue or offense, and used to be godly for quick low lvl sentry nests.

I'd rather move engineer away from tanking with the thing, and focus on repositioning. The heal version can remain because getting close to heal your sentry honestly sucks.

Heavy is going to get buttfucked just as bad if he tries to pull out his fists and waddle up to someone who moves twice as fast backwards as he does forwards, i.e. any of the other eight classes.

Remove all the new weapons and stuff. Just go back to base loadouts. No cosmetics either. Remove matchmaking.

Not even evildaedelus?

>join tf2 match
>play as red soldier
>fucking entire blu team is just 12 scouts
>lose every round because they camp intel
you cant just remove a class lmao

RED SO I CAN REVERT THE SYDNEY SLEEPER BACK TO HOW IT WAS

ALSO TO REVERT SANDMAN AND GUILLOTINE BACK TO THEIR FORMER GLORY

Yeah I know thats why I think the fists suck because of that. but in enclosed spaces you have a marginable chance to whack them once they get stuck in a corner. Its also decent when you're fighting a non-power class in a corridor. if you rev up they typically just turn around and escape.

>removes matchamking
GREENGREENGREENGREENGREENGREEN

post em boys

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Dude that's like trying to say that the buffalo GRU combo isn't fixed because you can still do it with a concherer/Disciplinary action soldier

>RED SO I CAN REVERT THE SYDNEY SLEEPER BACK TO HOW IT WAS

God the exploding sleeper was so FUCKING fun.

>hurr we'll let you recharge jarate on headshots instead
>the short ranged projectile when you're sniping from afar
>oh and we're nerfing jarate time to 5 seconds
>yes this applies to those that aren't using the sleeper, get fucked lmao

I really don't follow at all.
and if two engineers are working together perfectly, their combined effort (on only one sentry), should increase as well.

The issue was though (if you could call it an issue) was that the rescue ranger had all those boons, and I think bypassed the repair debuff on the wrangler

>and I think bypassed the repair debuff on the wrangler

I think it still does, and in general I think the wrangler shield should be changed to always block healing, even when the engineer swaps from wrangler.

The main issue is that its kind of shit if you don't have a sentry up, the shotgun is a huge portion of your defense as an engineer. Once a sapper knocks your sentry out your kind of boned.

I think the only change I would make post split, was to really push this negative. Like engineer loses health once his sentry goes down, or the rescue ranger deals half damage. or the rescue ranger deals less damage the higher the sentry level is. or the engineer's health goes down the higher lvl the sentry becomes.

>I think it still does
it doesnt

Honestly I don't get why the wrangler shield even blocks damage, you basically have a soldier and a heavy at the same time with 216 hp

I did that on purpose to make it tougher choice. You have to weigh what's more important to you.

>you basically have a soldier and a heavy at the same time with 216 hp

to be fair it ignores falloff applied to it, but yeah the wrangler gives it 720 hp. Heal it up fully while tanking damage, and thats nearly 1400 hp.

then that must be wrench only. because once the engineer switches off wrangler and the shields stay up, i'm fairly certain you can heal at normal rate.

when was the last time you played bro?

yesterday. I haven't tested it recently.

it hasnt worked like that for years, man.
t.engiefag

huh... could have sworn there was like a bug or something that you could still do that. I remember even hearing Uncle Dane bitch about it. but it must have been something else.

Red easily. Random Crits are great and uncle dangus can suck my wangus

i fucking wish healing ignored the shield, pulling sigafoo save shit out of ass used to be so fun when it worked. you might have just seen an old video of his.

I hack and I say red.

To make up for the fact that you can't heal the sentry while you're wrangling.
216 hp on something that can't move away from danger, pick up health packs, or benefit from falloff is nothing. Sentries rely entirely on their engineer constantly repairing them to have any kind of durability. A sentry that isn't being repaired is basically a free kill, even scouts can pick off unattended sentries super quick with their pistol.
If there were no shield, the wrangler would be totally useless.

>I hack

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>add a "join in-progress" toggle so I don't come in seconds before a team wins
>add the option to split party members into different teams, as was promised in Jungle Inferno
>if the end-of-match voting system picks the map you just played on, start a new round instead of resetting the server
>add arena to the lineup of modes
>allow halloween maps during full moons
I will continue to bitch about these until at least one gets added

uninstalling it it

This.

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Remember to kick all good snipers for hacking.
if they're not hacking they're annoying.

A port on the Nintendo switch at 60fps with gyro aiming available, playing tf2 again with a fresh userbase would be fucking dope.
And I have +3000 hours on steam and around 200 on ps3.

Green, I would even press it if it was just for removing the matchmaking. This cancer is killing every multiplayer games and the community.

Bring back non-matchmaking Valve servers.
That's literally it. I would be playing it RIGHT NOW if they did that.

Add 16v16

I don't go full spinbot sniper team with pocket meds and bind spam cuz even I find that shit cancer. I'm just that demoman with suspiciously well timed sticky dets.

ah nevermind, he simply says the heal rate penalty is a non issue because it can't even be killed by a DH soldier.

but to be fair he 100% ignores the fact that the DH soldier isn't shooting him. And the fact the engineer needed to build the sentry in the first place.

If you don't hack with joke weapons you're cancer.

32slots servers are gone? It's not a bad thing anyway I, it was spamland.

try playing dustbowl as a spy/scout on a 32 slot I dare you

What's the point of ruining the game for you and everyone? I legitimately don't understand what's happening in the brain of a hacker. I hope you're getting free bitcoins miner with your hack.

7/10 times it's people that got shit on by pub players and downloaded hacks
2/10 is "Professional Players" that got shit on in a pub without a medic GF

Someone post that image of the guy that had a literal thousands of dollars account and said he got banned on purpose, always makes me laugh.

>2/10 is "Professional Players" that got shit on in a pub without a medic GF
>that one "professional" player with australians and unusuals
>sudden absurdly fishy headshot (flying down above a door frame and getting headshot the momenty you appear)

its funny how often this happens, why do so many full backpack tards hack.

just close your eyes nigga, and pick random

16v16 made me more alert as a player in 12v12. If anything we should go full retard 24v24 or 32v32

I'm a bog standard player who can kinda do everything without hacks. I don't always hack but If I have a few shit games I'll switch to my alt.

I use the classic on sniper.

>32v32 dustbowl
I doubt anyone would be able to even go out of spawn.

>why do so many full backpack tards hack.
Usually because the mystique of being obscenely good at the game helps keep their channels from dying.
Why do you think b4nny leaves tf2 on overnight to bloat his play time but still can't play pubs without a FULL PARTY OF SIX

And then end up in
>24/7 minecraft trade server
>furry land
>24/7 2Fort no captures
>if you kill the discord girl i like, you get permabanned
No thanks.

Isn't time for a next installment?

>Why do you think b4nny leaves tf2 on overnight to bloat his play time but still can't play pubs without a FULL PARTY OF SIX

I've played solo que with him all the time.
Fag needs to stop playing soldier though.

Why not 128 players with fullcrit and no reload while you're at it?

>furry land
say what you will, but their servers top tier.

>K:D is very high
>still lose because i have a bunch of pablos that get stuck on every door
i wish my favourite server wasn't only populated during the weekend

That's why I watch heavyisgps. He's not that insanely good, but he simply genuinely play the game without any montage or gay ass cam/donations/other gay shit from modern streaming.

youtu.be/WTUNKB_dLNo

I wish he had more viewers, it's comfy and that guy upload regularly, he's really doing it out of passion.

>>K:D is very high
>>still lose
get on the point, retard

i was though

Spy could be fun

have you considered pic related

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Make the Equalizer one weapon again. I'm still mad they did that bullshit. Also, make the Sandman stun again.

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i was doing the objective.
does everybody miss the part of my post where i state that i'm matched with fucking neanderthals that don't know how to operate a fucking keyboard?
it's impossible to carry a bunch of brainless cunts if the enemy team has people that actually know how to play.

>playing spy in a corridor with projectiles flying everywhere

It could be fun with the old dead ringer but now you're just asking for a free buttfuck

This is true but you also see these same players saying "wtf remove randomcrits, I only ever die to randomcrits"
No one really minds getting killed by melee crits or shotgun crits, just change how splash can crit and its solved.

>24v24
Even that would make the game unplayable.

>Harvest 3
>Borneo fucking 19
>Sawmill

12vs12 is already too fucking much anyway. 8vs8 should be the maximum.

There's a plugin that replaces the sandman stun attribute with the ghost one, you can't full stun but it still makes the weapon have somewhat of a point.

>8v8
>can't even have all roles filled
m8

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He's a little on the boring side, but genuine enough that I keep coming back to watch him. He's a good dude.

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v8
>>can't even have all roles filled

Yeah, I should play on a 32 slot server with 6 sniper in both team instead, you're right.

>favorite weapon got nerfed
>admit it needed a nerf
>but know it needs to be buffed because its garbage

What would rework to buff THAT weapon, without reverting the nerf?

Sandman
>temporary disarm, but you don't go third person
>player hit by sandman equips the sandman until disarm wears off
>can hit the sandman back at anyone, with a bigger hit box

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Going third person is actually beneficial to the stunned player, you have better visibility of your surroundings.

I would agree, but everyone I met bitches about it because they can't line up their next shot once the stun ends.

Yeah he's uploading tf2 non-stop since 2011 without jumping much on other bandwagon, that's commitment

not wrong

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>its another tf2 is dead episode
let dispensers overheal

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TF2 isn't dead but it's in an objectively shit position right now.

The sad thing is that even nu-tf2 manages to kick the ass of every other multiplayer based games. The industry is utterly fucked, other than Splatoon there's simply 0 titles I'm excited for, and it's a tps on console with p2p "servers" and the worst tickrate in the world.

you aren't actually supposed to play all classes full time, which is why shit like highlander sucks

>let dispensers overheal

No, but it should heal at a 25% percentage rate or the normal heal rate, depending on what is higher.

I wish Wolfenstein would get back into the objective-based multiplayer FPS market.

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Female characters

He said make it better, not ruin it

kill trading, kill trannies, kill furries, add a team fortress 2 classic version of the game with only dedicated servers and old visuals with no cosmetics

No more sniper.

>the zoomer

Overwatch is more popular because it's actually diverse and inclusive. Enjoy your backwards dying game, right wing retard

Add a "2007" or "nostaliga" mode that is equivalent to the xbox 360 version. All stock, no hats, 5 maps, and engie cant move buildings

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@477516918

woow, a exciting and finely crafted bait, whoa, cool

ironically the game is only alive cause of the fapbait girls that have people coming back for skins every 6 months

It's not even really alive, they pad the shit out of games with dead battle.net account bots since they have a billion of the fuckers from WoW, they just shit out some new loot boxes, cash in from whales (and ster_) and then blizzard goes back to doing literally nothing.

>Overwatch is more popular
>diverse and inclusive
>even tho they exaggerate this part
What a BAIT

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>the greentextoomer

incel dilate, cringe.

ster has a few hundred viewers on twitch I doubt he is bringing in many players when he's shit talking the game 90% of the time

Don't be too mean to him, he still has whiplash when he went ALL IN on the blizzard contract to play overwatch and dumped his entire channel for it, despite only blaming tf2 for it.

playable female characters would ruin the sense of male camaraderie in TF2. Admin's voice and the comic characters are enough representation. The males are already diverse as it is.

>The males are already diverse as it is.
they're all able-bodied and all but one are white, where the fuck is the diversity? Is anyone of them even LGBT?

It wouldn't improve TF2.

But for TF3, Demo should just go back to being explosions focused, and a new Melee class should be created instead.

Spy's French so that automatically makes him a flaming homosexual.

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>A german man, a russian man, a texan man, a man from boston, an austrailian(retcon:Kiwi), a Faguette, a mentally unstable pyromaniac of indeterminable origin, and a Washington man are literally the same thing

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Remove forced diversity (nigger demoman)

Yes they are all white, and the Demoman is Scottish to boot. Absolute cero representation of non-European cultures

Remove pyro and sniper

I get we're supposed to pretend the european nations aren't obscenely different to the point they all have different languages these days, but fuck that's a nuclear stupid tier take.

I'm French and I'm not gay at all.

I'm bisexual tho.

Half Gay: Full Gay Consequences

Europe has no real culture anyway, it was all taken (hint: stolen!) from the Middle East, Africa and the (precolumbine) Americas

You know even giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're just shitposting I know people that unironically think that retarded tripe.

And it's always the ameriburger, what is the us government putting in the water?

...And they'd be correct

Buddy if you think it's only America, and even beyond that you're probably only thinking californians, I got bad news for you.

>wanna play more classes apart from pyro and engie
>am fucking terrible at aiming
Should I just end it now, lads?

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You won't get better unless you play dude, giving up now is the only pointless thing you can do.

RED.
I'll do anything to get her back...

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One thing that might help is focus on movement and position rather than flicking around your mouse. I found scout much easier to play when I focused on WASD + Space movement around an enemy to dodge and get in close, rather than focus mainly on my mouse movement. Does that make sense?

This. I miss the old days or rocketing across 2fort to fuck up some snipers.

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they'll never let you do that (+)(+)(+)Mun Dee (+)(+)(+) and the (+)(+)(+)sniper mains(+)(+)(+) pretty much run valve at this point. they'll never let you come near another sniper on 2fort ever again.

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Servers with only stock loadouts. None of these weapon unlocks, no hats or cosmetics. Just pick a class and play.

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This, tf2 is a movement based fps and you should be always moving or strafing all time everytime 24/7.

An update

Red, easy

put it on a new engine, option to disable hats or at least unusual effects, gas anyone with a furry avatar

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So much this

people who complain about cosmetics are just jealous

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In most cases, you're right.

based
pipeline was a fucking kino map, shame it got overshadowed by hightower and forgotten

>ankle dan above array

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>make a map
>the first 2 stages are literally pointless

whoever made pipeline and that other map should be shot

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why is scout a nigger in this

Stop fucking playing as Pyro. Playing as him for too long makes you even worse even if it gives you easy satisfaction

Use flares and learn to aim my man.

If you pull out GRU and start hitting somebody you can probably get a cheeky kill, since you'll still have 275 HP and higher movement speed. There's no damage downside anymore for some reason.

>mfw 689 days since Jungle Inferno

youtube.com/watch?v=oR_cD-8tmiA

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I like Aar (not in the picture), even if he sounds like he wants to end himself every time

Use your shotgun more as pyro.

what if instead of random crits, they made them random mini-crits?

This guy gets it

honestly it's good to just believe the game updates are over. the comic artist even admitted they're not working on the final episode anymore

NO I NEED TO BE ABLE TO STAND STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OPEN WITH NO REPERCUSSIONS

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>You keep on turning pages for people who don't care

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If Valve were to make a TF3 for some reason, how would you want them to go about it? Same characters? All new characters? Same plus new ones?

I can't imagine a character being added that wouldn't completely fuck with the atmosphere of the game.

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Same characters, just older. Different setting and story.

I think it'd be wrong to not make a new set of characters, as difficult as that might be

>playing in a pub
>we're losing
>go heavy
>11 people die and we cap the point

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Scout is the new Spy.

left for sure
it'll rebuild the meta because everyone will play under those settings by default

>valve
>3
It would be a prequel

I see what you're saying, but I don't think I could let go of these guys. They're too goddamn perfect.

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Ironically, Portal got a prequel and Half life is also getting a prequel

>join game
>pick class
>"our last control point is being captured!"
>"you failed!"

>BOOOOOO

I would want TF3 to be set in the same universe in a post-Australium cyberpunk Australia. Same kinda humor, same kinda characters, just in a different setting. I'd want the cast to be entirely original, sans for Scout, who takes up Spy's role, following in his father's footsteps. There could be ONE female character, but she'd have to be unappealing. I support a granny Demowoman myself.

Nerf it back to how it was originally. No health drain and no speed boost bullshit.

>There could be ONE female character, but she'd have to be unappealing
Why?

>Join game
>Hear the dumbass esports door close
>have to pick team and class just to vote on a map
>MAP SELECTED: UPWARD
>I queued for 5gorge

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Waifushit ruins games and TF is the last franchise I'd want bogged down by it. The soul of TF2 comes from the banter of its beautifully written characters. If there's a woman she needs to blend with the brutish men in rather than relying on sex appeal.

You're all losers.
youtube.com/watch?v=zDH_AAw-3_A

Am I the only faggot who likes tc_hydro? I definitely want more Territorial Control maps?

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Hydro's art direction and general map layout are flawless.

Oh hell yeah man, Territory Control is badly underrated if it had a bit quicker of a transition, it'd be great.

People draw fagshit of tf2 characters all the time, I really don't see what the difference is.

>join CTF game
>one team is 2 caps in
>the losing team's briefcase is already taken and heading to the other base
please add MvM's join-in-progress toggle, damnit

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I would play an updated version.
it just needs to be tweaked. its a beautiful map.

Same characters for desert maps and different characters for maps of other themes

>always thought they were booing
>actually its a claxon

Its either Ponies, Memes, or Gay sex.
Sometimes all three.

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Right, so it's already here, why would having an attractive female character change anything?

>queue for particular map(s)
>match found
>it's not even the fucking map I selected

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I use the black box and conch for a bit more survivability i still make suicide plays and other shit but i only use that when i play roamer

>join casual match
>youtu.be/4pgs-caVT6Y starts playing in the distance

Green but only because removing cosmetics would make the game not run like shit

Cosmetics don't make the game run like shit user, it's just that Source 1 is ass and bottlenecks really fucking hard on the cpu

youtube.com/watch?v=b-qD30EOO-o
youtube.com/watch?v=QGIISxhYRYE
youtube.com/watch?v=jRSW0Y1SgoA

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I prefer pairing the Black Box with the shotgun, due to the more limited amount of loaded rockets.

Yeah that can be an issue sometimes but like i said with the extra survivability you can survive worse shit as long as you are not TOO risky

For me, it's the purple square.

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i stopped using community servers months ago, because they become infested with retarded management and forbid me from saying the nigger word. in light of this, green is not even a plausible option for me.

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Ouch, right in the feels

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Hi-gps is a faggot that used his influence over reddit to make valve nerf sniper purely because he was getting shit on in sniper duels, fuck him.

>used his influence over reddit to make valve nerf sniper
Sounds pretty based to me

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shut up nigger

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No

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Or just revert to the unique playstyle it originally had.

>fixing the hitboxes
You must be huffing paint if you seriously think the BFB disconnects the scout's player model from his hitbox, 520 hu/s isn't even as fast a charging demoman. If a soldier rocket jumps do you watch him with your mouth agape because you think he's unhittable?

is it really hard to play the game and not post nigger in the chat every two minutes?

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practice using your shotgun, it's a wily fucking beast that is incredibly powerful when you learn to use it it wouldn't be nearly as hard to master if they just removed random bullet spread

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If they had nerfed him in a good way, maybe. Instead they gave him a stun after taking a scoped shot that just punishes aggressive play and nothing else.

>it wouldn't be nearly as hard to master if they just removed random bullet spread
What makes you say this? Random spread is gaussian. If you look at the spread pattern, it always falls within the box of no-spread shots. You literally have pellets landing closer to the center of your crosshair with the gaussian spread than with the non-random spread, thereby making it easier to get higher damage shots even if it's theoretically less consistent. In the long run it is more likely for you to deal more damage with random spread.

>If they had nerfed him in a good way
Any sniper nerf is a good nerf

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Holy fuck I vaguely remember watching that spy vid way back when I first played TF2 on xbox 360

Fucking red. Easy.

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>Instead they gave him a stun after taking a scoped shot that just punishes aggressive play and nothing else.

I literally have never heard of this.

Sniper should have inverse damage falloff. Bad damage up close and good damage from afar.

This one's ironically not because it makes snipers rely on camping and charging shots more. It also made the sniper duel meta game more stagnant. Know what counters sniper? Sniper. Too bad trying to counter-snipe leaves you completely vulnerable now.

You used to be able to jump-cancel out of scope after taking a shot but in an undocumented patch they put in a stun that forces you to be unable to do anything but walk (or crouch) while still at scope speed for about half a second.

America and Australia aren't in Europe dumbass.

Remove the option to kick players
Remove random crits
Un nerf all weapons or make them worth using instead of only 1 weapon of each class useable.
Remove loot crate buying key garbage and put the hats in a steam website where i just buy the hats without all the random bullshit. (Fuck your secondary market on fucking pixel hats)
Make it faster to mute people.
I will repeat remove the option to kick players. I don't give a fuck how much you hate me good bad or otherwise you have no right to kick players for being a jew nigger spic faggot or because lulz. You can call me a nigger till the end of a match kicking players is for children autistic cunts. You people REALLY hate new players and that's fine i don't give a flying fuck.

>Remove the option to kick players
>Remove random crits
>Un nerf all weapons or make them worth using instead of only 1 weapon of each class useable.

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Play spy + etranger. Aim is unnecessary, but positioning+movement is key. Or do soldier, or hell demo and focus on knight or stickies.
Like the only classes that REQUIRES anything close to precision and aiming is scout sniper and maybe gunspy.

Maybe you should try being less of a faggot. Might get kicked less often.

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You proved my point by the way LOL

Fagshit can still be rough and brutish. A women can be rough and brutish. But add a pretty feminine women to a group of insane bloodthirsty mercs kills the mood a bit.

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A game

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>you have no right to kick players for being a jew nigger spic faggot or because lulz
Except we literally do have that right. Stay mad or find a game that has restrictions to keep babies like you happy.