Underrail

Are SMGs good for a tincan?

For AR? Concentrated fire

I'm doing the mission where you have to raid the warehouse for shields. If I go the kill everyone route, does that make the protectorate hostile to me throughout the entire rest of the game?

Yup

Got stuck on my first playthrough about 20 minutes in, had 6hp and dogs randomly spawned next to the vault

Rerolled and dropped everything for strength and agility. Now breezing through the missions with an excess amount of guns and like 10 knives. Thankfully I didnt water down the game by looking up guides and item locations or whatever.

Few questions before I start. What can I expect out of mind control Psi? Is it just another bargain tool or can I actually make enemies walk into burning buildings? If so, Is a stealth mindcontroller viable + all the hacking, pickpocketing and utility stuff. Are throwingknives viable or a dead-end? Not grenades, knives, I want to be silent and just loot my way trough caves and pockets and only kill if i must. And how big of an exp difference is there if I pick oddity, sounds like ok for semi pacifist play-style?

Only pick Sharpshooter if you're using Sniper rifles or Energy guns.

>no respec mod
game would benefit from that

Its good for crossbows too

Right, I forgot about that.

The Tommy Gun with explosive ammo is

Nope.

No

What build is going to make the most use of Biology/Chemistry? Chem Pistol?

How many points should I invest into chem and bio? I'm already spread thin with hacking, lock picking, mechanics, electronics and tailoring.

You don't actually mind control people.
Throwing knives are trash.
Classic sucks all the fun out of the game, you'll be overleveled.
Forget everything about going "pacifist"

>>old jonas asks me to get his watch back
>>i risk my life to those rathounds and find his watch INSIDE one
>>i come back and he says he wants to trade, a gun, or some hypos, or psi
>>i want all of it
>>he gets mad, never talks to me again

>>come back later and try to kill him for loot since hes a useless npc now
>>kill him quietly with a sledgehammer, lol
>>now everyone is hostile even tho no one saw me kill him

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Dumb caveman trying to jew old men without any mercantile skill for a fucking watch.

What’s the best build for Vile Weapons? Knife or Sword?

noife

Then what does mindcontrol do? What about stealth+traps and then one of the other two psi-majors for whatever I can do with those. Any fireballs or wizardry in general or is it just psi-shields. Entertained the ide of taking the tacticool feat that makes flashgrenades better for when I'm detected to fuck of.

>Killing old jonas
Wtf is wrong with you
He sells cheap batteries ya dingus

>killing one of the key members of your home station
Holy shit what a retard lol

Cant imagine a game where you wouldn't want 69 chem
High level bio shit is really good too but id wait till youve got the points to spare (when you stop pumping lock/hack)

>hack
Found the oddityfag

ive been using pretty much this build for my first playthrough as shotgun wiz just with a couple stats switched but I want to know other anons opinion. some user in a thread made it for me

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Anyone who has throwing as secondary weapon skill and wants to use nades which should be literally everyone unless you have psi to cover AoE and crowd control has Chemistry. 69 is enough to unlock all Chemistry related nades apart from the very highest tier of hand nades.

Aside from poisons that you can add to caltrops, traps or throwing knives, most builds benefit from Biology for extra free adrenaline shots and other various buffs that you can't get anywhere else, for example crit builds get Focus Stim that increases crit chance by 15% for 10 turns, unlocked at 50. At 70 you get Hypercerebrix that increases INT by 2 for a while, useful for crafting high quality gear while skimping out on a handful of points in other crafting skills or passing few INT dialogue checks in the expansion.

Knives 99% of the time. None of the swords can cause bleeding wounds aside from pic related, but in that case you want to create your entire build around it. Don't forget Taste for Blood feat.

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Well, boys? Have you been filtered yet?

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Because it got an expansion dipshit.

>biology
crossbows
>chemistry
chem pistols

Conveniently enough you can use versatility and deadly snares to make a build that combines both.

>pic related
That’s from the expansion, right? How quickly can I get it?

Very, there's a lone skaerder in a cave northwest that is very easy to kill.

its a mix of crowd control and anti-psi. you cant use it for jedi mind tricks in dialogue but you can fry people's brains and make them have mental breakdowns in combat. just read the psi pages on the wiki.

I haven’t touched the expansion yet, I’ll see if I can find it

wut
Crossbows can just stealthily shoot everyone, they don't need drugs
For biology it's gotta be tank character, probably melee that will make the most of it

It stopped being a problem once I got some incendiaries, learned how to camp doors and of course - got some ARs.

its not great but it looks fine for normal.

Play as a hammer wizard

I'm pretty sure that user meant poisons

poison bolts. its hard to justify taking it above 70 or 80 otherwise.

Biology is for drugs and poisonous utilities, and those are traps, throwing knives and crossbow bolts. I'm combining crossbow and chem pistol with versatility, and build is okay.

If I stealthed through it, does it count?

is this game hard?

Fist.

hahaha fuck that , its not the watch its the act of what it takes to get it

i dont read guides so im going on instinct

at that point he was a useless npc, doesnt say anything. dropped a sweet crossbow
why are u dodging around the mechanic that the everyone turns hostile even if they dont see u kill him

some youtuber just make a video about it
so they are shilling it

Unarmed or with a spiky glove?

ghostnigger leave

wahhhhhh i could kill npcs without reprecussion all day in skyrim waaaaaa hold me todd-senpai waaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

On dominating, yes

I've only played through Fallout and Fallout 2 once each - will I get through this ok on an easier difficulty?

You might survive normal difficulty if you're smart gamer in general.

You're the only one they sent down there and Jonas is dead in a room rathounds can't get into. Who else could have done it?

whats ur argument

he just says he wont talk to me, so i had the autonomy to kill him except the game, like usual soft locks you which shows its indie colors

im already way past that point in the game anyhow

hes fucked

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>at that point he was a useless npc
>Jonas
>Useless
LMFAO at this caveman

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This game is a lot harder than classic fallout

this is true , but they spawn dogs when i sent newman back to town so why didnt newman get mauled -_-

but i hear you lol

>losing out on all the good shit in SGS

Why would you kill him just because he doesn't have anything else to say to you?

>>at that point
after you pick that option he wont speak

read

Are there a lot of oddities stuck behind things you have to hack and unlock?

because i had the option to, my character is a sledgewielding maniac that kills without remorse

even though when he died everything went hostile so i had to reload the game and leave him right where he is doing and saying nothing currently

>He doesn't "say anything" NOW so he's useless for the rest of the game and I should kill him for no good reason
What kind od ADHD riddled retard must you be?
Is this your first RPG ever?

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If you're going to play like a retard on purpose you shouldn't act like a victim when the game punishes you for it.

Unarmed. You can do about the same damage gloves can in the late-game at a lesser AP cost.

>kills without remorse
>can't accept the consequence so reloads
you can't even RP a character right, dumb zoomerzoner

>my character is a sledgewielding maniac that kills without remorse
This is your brain on ‘roleplay’

Well, just started and went into the caves past Old Jonas. Was immediately eaten by rats after missing multiple times on a 95% shot chance. Was I supposed to buy armor before I left the city?

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>he doesn't know

But then how am I going to trigger bleed?

Buy armor? You start with armor.
And unless you're on hard /dominating with 3 con, you won't be immediately eaten by rats after missing a few shots.

Fallout is the opposite of hard.

i dont know, i didnt read any guides for this "rpg"

its required in case any newbies dont know yet

Health hypos, flares, chokepoints, grenades, bear traps or caltrops.

yes but the amount of oddities in the game exceeds the maximum you can level up from
hey i have adhd and i let him have his watch for free
no you just got welcomed to the game. put on your big boy thinking hat and try again.

Boots, muh man. Glue some sharp metal onto them.

But seriously, you're a dumb fag and should off yourself asap.

Do acid bolts increase damage with stats? 10~25 feels like a huge waste

Nimble or Tin Can?

at least you're serious about something for once in your lifetime

Nimble IS both for rogues with 0-15% armor and tincans. You can spec into it later.

He is right though, he isn't even in a controlled area and somehow trigger aggro with every faction, it is bad game design and laziness because styg want to have more repercussion even if it don't make sense

its free damage that bypasses mechanical resistance

That "joke" supports my assumption that you're a low IQ child. Come back in 10 years.

Just found I got this in steam probably from a sale. Only thing I know is that it's sort like the classic fallout games, correct?
Anything else you guys can tell me about it? Is it worth playing it without the expansion these days?

>>supports my assumption

ooooh. ok

It's a key character that later goes back to the station. Fuck off to Skyrim if you want characters that can't be killed.

I don't think constantly reloading and spamming molotovs counts as "making it" but whatever

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>key character

Lol, maybe if was tanner or Ezra

Ill have you know i fine tuned that build after over 700 hours of DOMINATING ironman gameplay

>>he didnt read the guides or watch streamers for what works first

pff

Literally becomes better with Expedition. It's called expansion for a reason. If you want to cheap out, go ahead and rob yourself of 100 extra hours of gameplay.

since when did evasion even work on dominating?

Bitch, progress, then talk. You pose like you're some kinda dominating badass where you only completed 0.5%.

I didn't say i got far
I've tweaked my skill matrix and im pretty sure this is the run i get jonas watch back tho

It's okay for nades since they apply multiple instances of damage. And it mitigates some of the problems created by SMGs and assault rifles.

Jesus fuck breezing through absolutely everything with the second character. Knowing just a few handy tricks makes the early game an absolute joy.

how many hours do you guys have in this? is it highly replayable?
I'm kind of curious

No

thanks again user u and another user ive been building off of, im at the last part of deport a and its a pain

wtf do you need nimble for as a tin can?

200+
>is it highly replayable?
Yeah, it has good replay value.

It's replay town. Character builder wasn't created for no reason.

I have never gotten past Core City and I have over 500 hours. Rerolling is a blight

>reduces armor penalty by 15%
>stacks with armor sloping for 50% reduction
Learn to read.

is this a game where I'm just going to find myself save scumming?

Then deal with it.

>go to buy the game
>it's already in my steam account
well shit, guess I'll just get expedition then

if you have to ask - yes

Was going for a basic punisher like build, did I fuck up much?
In junkyard atm

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Depends entirely on you. Are you the kind of retard who dumps con and thinks initiative is something to be savescummed?

What the fuck do you care about armor penalty for?

No worries mate
Did ya bring molotovs and caltrops? It's the easy way. If your still strugglnig craft up some acid resitance gear from those dead dogs.
Have fun lad, games about to open up.

Not him, but nimble cans exists, they use super steel

I ran out and am too stubborn to run back, I gotta couple nades left, im just trying to kill 5 people in a super crit burst fire again

>will 4
>int 4
>guns 40
>melee 4
You're gonna have a bad time

Underrail or Atom?

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is it viable to go pure wizard from the start or do i still need a gun or something for a while?

>Stealing shield emitters, going for the disguise route because nostealth
>As soon as I enter the warehouse with the emitters the entire place shoots my ass
>Manage to sneak in once when everyone had their collective backs turned
>A guy walks past anyway and guns my dumb ass down

Fucking hell, am I missing something here? There's no way that this stupid thing wouldn't have a zero stealth option.

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I didn't particularly like what I played of Atom

I like to lead them to fences and close the door so they can't get in then shoot them through the fence

Quite the opposite, you get some stupid good skills early game. There's a reason people hate psi, success breeds jealousy.

underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Telekinetic_Punch
underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Cryokinesis

AHHHHHH I CAN'T DECIDE ON WHAT BUILD TO USE, SHOULD I GO PSI OR GUNS WITH STEALTH AND TRAPS?!?

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Did you equip your ID and armor?
Do not get too close to people or they will recognize you're not Bob.

>moneygrubbing ass decided to spill the details of the embassy to abram despite not wanting to hurt the US
God damn it, I can guess what I just did but damn man I wanted money that I didnt really need

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Yes, and yes.
The problem is, even with the ID and gear, as soon as I step in the actual room with the emitter, I get impromptu full body piercings from everyone in the room

>US
>Good

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W-why would maxing the weapon types I'll be using be a bad idea
I also just wanna negotiate with my weapons, so I doubt I'll regret the lower int and will unless this was a joke about all those 4's

>funneling rathounds into 1 tile corridors
>abusing mp to force melee characters to use ap to reach you
>corner peaking in combat mode
>NOT PICKING SNOOPING

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Oh man
What the fuck I'm reading

Being a jack of all trades will get you killed

How do i infiltrate the tchortists?

Don't be fooled by Abram's looks, he's actually not THAT bad.

There is no difference beteen 4 and 3.
If you're gonna be dumb, be mega dumb.

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Get their dildo back from the Lunatics

Pester a dude until he gives you a suicide quest to retrieve a tiny statue. Come back and rub it in his face.

You unironically did the right thing
Keep colaborating with him, you will gain a nice coin AND unlock more quests and lore

also do I need more than 5 str for shotguns? I feel like u would need some more muscle to use one but ive gotten lucky so far

Can someone give me a hand with this? All google told me is nah yeah it's fucked, good luck.

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this is the one im playing on dominating. it can can craft almost everything and pass every skill check in the game so there's that.

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Seems like it, did you bribe the official to let you enter the warehouse too?

Pure psi for your first time, hybrid either third or second, and melee second or third.

Inside the warehouses is forbiden zones.
Doors and places usually marked in red are forbiden, if you interact with them, or if somebody find you inside that area, hostilities will ensue
You need to click check the shelves, find the box with the emitters and get out of there in a matter of second. Also nobody has to see you enter, there is a small moment in which everyone will be distracted, you will have 5 seconds tops to do the stealing.
Reduce game speed to 1 recommended

How much weapons did they add in the expansion?

The issue is you have to be incredibly quick. Open the gate when no-one can see it, and wait for patrols to be out of range before you dive in, steal the package, and get out of the room before anyone sees you.
It's possible with zero stealth, but go too close to anyone or be in a spot other than the main room(s) and everyone is hostile. Required a couple dozen F9s to get it all down.

Become a hammer wizard

Ah, normal.

...I kind of missed this actually.

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>stacks with armor sloping for 50% reduction
are you retarded? it's multiplicative, not additive

I'm making a grenadier type character, i heard some user say you shouldn't level throwing above 50 for the accuracy, is this true for a grenade build as well?

>Not Strelok

Thanks lads.

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Artyom actually got laid that one time.

>still no energy edge emitters anywhere in underrail
>everyone on Yea Forums still thinks I'm retarded or something

Go to the black sea and fuck up some hottie metal shawties

Nope, 3 pointer scales of throwing

Strelok got the wish granter
Oh wait

I did. none of them dropped any

Sorry dude but this is all wrong

It's the desire sensor user, it's got it's grips on you.
I'm so sorry.

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1/2
alright, this may be kind of long but
1. You're not particularly tanky from either CON (only 6) or AGI (dodge/eva both 0) despite wanting to do some melee
2. Point 1 may not be a problem because you're putting points in stealth. However, with a strength score of 7, you're 1 point off using metal armor, which happens to be shit in stealth.
3. You've picked up Full-Auto, which lends itself to burst weapons while also having Aimed Shot, which lends itself primarily to specialized single-shot weapons (energy/chemical pistols or sniper rifles)
4. Combining stealth and aimed shot is great. Props for that. Snipe (another feat) scales off your effective stealth score. You can see how a sniper build comes into play with those two feats.
5. Your melee is likely completely wasted, but there is salvation with the Dirty Kick feat. Look into that, but I'd stop pumping melee.
6. You've got neither of the following: chemistry to make high powered grenades, throwing to use store-bought grenades, psi, electronics, or tailoring. You're going to want tailoring to make stealthy stealth gear, electronics to make nice goggles to boost your damage from Aimed Shot, and you've got mechanics covered already for guns. You need to be either extremely, extremely smart and patient with traps or get grenades because you need AoE of some kind. Expect to be outnumbered constantly and you need a way to level the field.
7. 4 in Will was a waste. Get 3.
8. 4 in INT is a mistake, take the point from Will and slap it there.

underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Throwing
underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Grenadier
underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Three-Pointer
If you gonna commit for throwing, do it hard, get it to 100 or more if you want
People dont really commit to throwing because almost all the times throwing is just an utility, not a main method of dealing damage

Nope, go full psi and you'll never need to touch a weapon other than the jacknife

Go to the LemCo Warehouse and creep into the spider gate thing. There's two high quality ones in the boxes.

why does this game take 30 seconds to launch for me? is this normal?

What's a good secondary for snipers? I was thinking about shotguns

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What if I want to roleplay a dickass zoner? Can I actually make decent money off of pickpocket and shivving people in alleys?

Shotties, .44s, and SMGs. Really, snipers are a useful side-weapon.

Shotties or ARs

Pickpocket isn't as useless in other games, but why steal when you can kill

4/10 build
Grenadier is cheating
Would not get jonas' watch back with

Shotguns take a lot of feats and even then they're not super good.
Also aimed shot doesn't work with them which sucks.

That said, i have played a build like that on dominating, it's viable, but assault rifles are probably better.

In my last playthrough I only ran across 2. Good luck.

2/2

When I see your build, I see good ideas. I see someone concentrating on burst-fire from guns and taking the feats necessary to make that work. Optimizing a bit is going to double down on your burst and high Dex and reassigning some of your skills. 8 Str gets you access to strong defensive metal armor and isn't far away from your current strength thanks to Full Auto. 7 Dex gives you access to 2 extremely strong throwing feats: Grenadier and Three-Pointer. These are lifesaving and game-altering feats. Higher INT will help your crafting. Dropping Melee to Dirty Kick range will free up some points. I appreciate a person who goes all in on talking feats, but a low Will build just can't pull them all off. Drop Persuasion and Intimidate and pump Mercantile and look into the crafting skills.

You've got the right idea for feats.

You could, pickpocketing is really useful to get you free money, some oddities and some supplies in the early game
After that it's 'meh'. Still, for roleplaying purpouses, it's okay, go for it.

Just try to dont shiv people in bases, you will aggro everybody.

Typo, isn't as useless as it is in other games.

I went melee and am somewhat regretting it now, I feel like this will get boring compared to my previous game. Is this true melee bros?

Why put your life in danger and kill when you can just steal?

What melee?
t. Hammerer

spear

Does this have 21:9 support?
No bully my meme resolution pls

>why steal when you can kill
Because I don't want to antagonize the entire Core City/Foundry/Faceless/Aegis etc. and because it makes a lot of quests easier and faster.

First run as a heavy armor / assault rifle build. When do I get either of those things / when should I start looking for them?

you can make metal armour in junkyard

>do the dude quest as soon as you can
Based troll getting newbies trapped in grey army base

Has the best utility and is the second-most feat reliant melee playstyle behind unarmed.

What's the issue?

Who has the recipe?

Metal armour
>Sold by Len, expensive
>You can craft it, Metal armour blueprint also sold by Len
>Very probable loot drop from Junkyard's quest 'Gang showdown'

Spears are quite good
What's the issue my dear spearman?

cant figure out how to fit 7 will in. str/dex/agi required investment is too high without dumpign int

I was concerned that the actual playstyle will get stale quickly. Last playthrough used chem and energy pistols + grenades. I am entering Junkyard now and was just wonderijg if as the game goes on will it get stale. I don't want to get to core city and get fed up and reroll.

...Why are you putting points into fucking will?

trash my build all you want but leave my feat waifu alone

If you're not using Psi or intimidtion, tank Will to 3

That sounds like your own personal commitment issues

Are there ways to increase base stats aside from leveling up once in a while? Fallouts had mods you could do, for example.

t. need one more STR to wield a 9mm AR that will shred everything to fucking pieces

no, start over

eat a steak

Also, do you recommend taking a shield as well.

I know user, I have issues committing to a playstyle. Every rpg I play I make it an hour in and reroll. Class based games are even worse.

>Also, do you recommend taking a shield as well.
Yes, but you will need 11 Strenght for Iron Grip feat, which will let you use single hand spear with shields.
Become a hoplite.

All right, I'll wait until a level up then. Also, whenever I try to cheese shit by going out of an area during combat and go back, I get a -1000 penality on re-entering and usually get fucked because some cunt has Cryo-shit or whatever.

Any way to mitigate this?

psychokinesis for my shield+spear

Oh damn, I don't have that yet. I'll have to wander around to grab oddities and level up then.

I cleaned the place out with an assault rifle, does that count?
it got hairy though, acidic fuckers running right up to me, I blew through a lot of ammo bursting guys and tossed the odd frag, died twice to mutants and once to a frag mine accident.

absolutely based. thanks m8. now to get raped senseless by a naga protector

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>Classic sucks all the fun out of the game, you'll be overleveled.
Shitty meme.

When do you think were gonna get kicked off to /vg/?

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no that mechanic is there to stop you from cheesing like that

>infrequent but not rare underrail threads before Sseth
>Sseth makes video
>FUCKING SHILLCELEBFUCKS you only like games because someone told you to!

For as long we keep it down just 1 thread, we should be fine.
Prior to the review there were continious underrail threads everyday, and the janny didnt nuked them

What? It is forbidden to talk about videogames?
Sorry I didn't get the memo

First play through which xp thing should I pick

This, every other day there has been an underrail thread that got a decent number of replies for the past few weeks or even months. Not much has changed other then more new people in the threads.

Oddity

depends on what you want to do, however whatever it is you need to fully commit.

Sorry to add to the sea of questions, but havd any of you found a reliable place to get a shotgun belt? ive never even seen one

It's mostly trader RNG
You're on your own buddy

Why does it feel like the game is forcing me into a stealth build? The reinforced metal armor I made seems useless since now every enemy sprays AP ammo and psi/energy weapons and every screen seems to exponentially raise the enemy's evasion making my chance to hit sub 50%

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You already solved this but there's a zero invested stats in stealth option if you got crafting
I'm an AR tin can and I managed to stealth it only with points coming from gear

>classic
eww

Also, you're not really supposed to fight the faceless. It's better to just persuade that electric shop guy to make an EMP transmitter.

can you still drop your shit on the ground in front of vendors and not have it disappear? or did they change that?

Were you just fighting Faceless and plasma sentries? Because if so, both of those are difficult enemies early on and can be skipped.

make some night vision goggles for dark areas

I am, I assumed the mechanic guy would just give me a handful of emp grenades and not something like an emp transmitter.
What does it do?

>do the last dude quest

hahaha holy shit based. getting zoners savefiles softlocked on GA base

underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Precision

I did it early and I finished it without either persuasion, combat or 110 lockpick

How can you get soft locked at the grey armor base? The game makes an make a save for you before it.

I dont remember it doing that, does it make saves like arena does? Also id imagine newbs missing that save and if you re a brainlet/play as a woman grey army base is a savewipe if you dont have a save beforehand

>does it make saves like arena does?
Yes, it makes one right before you're allowed to step through the rift.

Also learn to take cover and corner peeking

So i'm trying to do the ICPD quest for Coretech, the locator led me here. All the doors are locked and the bandits didn't give me anything. Will i be unable to complete this quest if i have 0 lockpicking?

Or have i missed something obvious?

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Can I play this game on a piece of shit Intel HD Graphics 520-equipped laptop?

You should be able to hit 10 lockpicking easily just by using a mk2 or mk3 lockpick.

How the fuck do I do the Eals quest on Shadow Isles, the beatles and dogs are fine but the fucking doppleganger just slows me down and wastes half my medicine?

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Fine, you convinced me with all your shilling threads op, gonna torrent this garbage game.

Use flares, stay in the light.

Can I make some fun meme build in this game, like dumb jinxed brawler with 10 luck in Fallout 2?

>0 lockpicking
Why would you do that?
Dumb zoner
Get yourself a mk3 lockpick

Put it on a vola and share with the thread, user.

>he isn't even in a controlled area
Really? Could be to allow player to freely use traps etc.
Reprecussions make sense because vacation residence of a SGS council member would have security systems installed, also Ezra probably knows everything about every human anywhere near SGS.

Play as a spear wizard.

> savefiles softlocked
Do you only ever use quicksave?

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Electric boosted spear throw and impale with psychokinesis
Telekinetic grab back Spear

Sell me on this game guys

is it like deus ex on crack?

I fucking would but doing it as a hoplite seems impossible. 11Str/6Dex/6Agi/7Con minimum is a hefty stat investment without going 7 in will and being an Int-let

It's not really anything like Deus Ex at all.

>Sell me on this game
Why you dont make your own bloody research?

i wonder what people are looking for when they post this.

It's actually really similar to original Deus Ex (on mushroom brew and barrel soup) if Deus Ex was 2d and had free travel

or no muti options in a situation?
i don't wanna run a gun everything in every playthrough
no

>is it like deus ex on crack?
No, that's EYE

This is Fallout 2 on MDVP.

Be more specific about running and gunning. Are you talking about your options in overcoming combat situations?

I havent left starting area yet but it feels like oldshool crpg x original deus ex

>lots of combat/sneaking but no companions, few encounters can be solved diplomatically
>ventilation duct labyrinths everywhere
The only similarity to Fallout 2 is turn based combat.

So, Fallout 2 on bath salts.

Well it's the sequel to 'Undertale' if that tells you anything

I dont remenber shooting Sans with my AR
Man I must be getting old

Hmmmmmmm....

i do remember going on a genocide

I just got done cleaning out that Burrower hole (the one that you find a keycard to open and close as part of the main quest) and honestly I expected a bit more than just a dead dude with a shitty 7.62 pistol. I had to cleanse these motherfuckers with molotovs in order to stand a chance.

lol, should've waited until after camp hathor.

You were not supposed to go there
It's just a burrower hive

Ammo belt or shell belt for a SMG/Shottie/Sniper hybrid?

Did you not pay attention to Gorsky?

>not using chem pistol
Explain yourselves

Haven't gotten them yet on my psientist playthrough and I'm debating whether to be Plasma XXXCritmaster or Laser commando hybrid.

Is time manipulation good or is it just a way to give ethan all of my ssg credits?

Should I bother with persuasion or intimidation if I dumped will?

Takes too long to go "online."

I leveled electronics

can't you use both since their requirements overlap a lot

You still get 60 Persuation in order to save Buzzer

Why use tools when you can crush people with your mind?
I'll do it next run I swear, please don't make fun of me

do you just use acid

>wasting 60 points to save a mediocre electronics vendor
eh.

it's a utility discipline, so expect useful but not very impressive brain magic

Is mad chemist good or nah?

You don't need persuasion to save Buzzer.
Just solve the foundry questline peacefully, don't kill any of the faceless in Rail Crossing and you'll get an option for the mindreader to not kill Buzzer.
Not like it matters much really.

For a chempistol build?
It's an absolute staple.

>or no muti options in a situation?
The majority of quests have many possible solutions. Even more if you are thinking in Deus Ex style fight, non-lethal. or sneak past options, that's virtually always there.

pair that with another weapon

no cryo or incendiary though?

Have any of you gotten to the part of the DLC where you are supposed to get an arm with a chip? I have gone through the entire mutie base and the surrounding areas and cant find it.

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>I have gone through the entire mutie base
no you havent

my chem pistol/time wizard build has come together beautifully and i am tickled fuckin' pink
didn't even know about advanced catalyzing belt so now i'm popping off 4-5 shots a turn, everything is piles of goo or chunks of ice.

incendiary is kinda underwhelming desu fampai, cryo is perfect for single target lockdown and acid is great crowd control or for anything with damage resists but incendiary is just single target fear. high burn damage but I'd rather just kill'em outright.

plus rp'ing as a mad scientist is perfect for this game. thanks to user from like a week ago for the tips.

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looks like your in quite the HOLE user. We would need a CRANE to get you out

oh, yeah. Most peoole seem to say you should take both incindiary and cryo and use either one based on the situation.

>restart cuz character kinda sucked
>have a set build in mind this time
>buy a really good vest early on
>basically like 30 DR to bullets
>get to GMS depot
>don't want to waste ammo on the stupid sentry bots that can't even damage me
>know there's some AP rounds and EMP nades in here somewhere
>just run around looking for them while getting tickled with bullets
>find a secret passage
>all the fucking bots stacked up outside the door
>can't move
>can't die
>can't kill
>trapped in bot purgatory forever

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punch those shitters to death

When you are down in the facility, you need to get past the crabs and either fix a pump, or find another to drain the lower level. Then you either jump or use a ladder.

There you open every every gate until you find a hole that leads to a cave. Find the exit, and there's a room with generators and a dead dude. The arm is on the dead dude.

Lol

I am a 10 INT Plasma wizard.

Reload, stop dancing in front of security cameras, DO NOT break the cameras, and take the bots on 1 by 1.
Take depot A slow, there's a reason it's a shitter filter, use your brain.

>try to deal with muties peacefully
>fuck it i'm not just handing out my shit
>sneak in to find the chip
>sneak out
>now they're hostile on sight
HOW DO THEY KNOW

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Looks like Ass Killer got his ass killed.

they only know if you turn on the power
assuming you weren't ever seen

use all three. acid for melee enemies or shit like burrowers that have tons of small fast enemies, they'll kill themselves on your acid pools. cryo for single big bad bois, the freeze and move point kill is aces at keeping things away. fire for whatever else doesn't have fire resist.

don't forget to take sure step, you are going to be knee deep in acid pools at all times.

>ancient facility without power suddenly gets power
>dude that wanted down there suddenly shows back up and plans on leaving
really makes you think. Don't turn the power on dumbo, it's not even like it's necessary

What Shotgun Shells should I be buying early game?

Thanks, I found the hole but didn´t know what the fuck to do with it at first. My stupid ass tried ed putting a fishing rod at it.

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What are the minimum persuasion and intimidate scores to pass every speech check in the game?
And also can you do it without maxing will?

reminder that ssethbabbies are illiterate and can't form any opinions on their own

I have 3 int moments irl too, user

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they should be fucking grateful
fuck

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Any good cheats for this?
Game is too boring to play through anymore and cheat engine doesn't seem to detect current health values in normal searches

cool steam cloud support you got there

Is kneecap worth it now or still shit?

It's alright, user. I've done worse.

What are the minimum requirements to pass every persuasion and intimidate checks in the game and can it be done without maxing will?

>too brainlet to play the game
>too brainlet to use cheat engine
wow

Fuck off

20p is the shell you should be using whenever you can get away with it
When you can't because the enemy is armored, use 6p, but 20p is still gonna be your most used shell probably.

dilate more, its not even worth torrenting. Game is trash, gamedevs must be all sitting in their office circle jerking posting on Yea Forums trying to gain exposure, pathetic really.

>Enemy berzerker/knifefag
>Kneecap shot them
>Hammerfag/knifefag reduced to a crawl

Can't even fucking make a post without messing up

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I killed them eventually, I had a 7.62 pistol and spent 10 swapping it in and waiting for aimed shot to refresh.

I'm not in depot A, I'm in the GMS depot, the bots are 0 threat to me.

No one knows for sure, but around 130~ish should be comfortably enough for everything.

You're not trying to hide it anymore

115-140, and yeah.

The greatest Persuation check is 130 skill I believe, in DC
Get 130 persuation effective skill

here's your cheat engine:
>unzips dick
>difficulty: easy
>strength: 10
>constitution: 10
>agility: 8
max melee, dodge, evasion, grab a hammer. fool

They always travel in packs though.

Yes, but the catch is that with kneecap shot you wont get caught and get your head bashed in, or get gutted to death

their kind hates ice and fire both

How when all I've done is halted one enemy you have to get close to anyway thanks to kneecap shot's range?

>It's a Giant Weaver / Giant Creeper episode

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>Dealing with crawlers with 3 per and no motion-tracking goggles

why did I subject myself to this hell

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>kneecap shot's range
what
isn't it just your gun's range

what's a good level to be starting expedition? from what i've seen in these threads there's some real hardcore shit in there.

Flares, bre

even if you had high per and motion tracking goggles you wouldn't see them
learn to deal with it, fight an enemy you can't see

Tungsten tanks dont have these issues
Become a hammer wizard

15-16 for the bare minimum.

>get forcefield
>hover the spell area thing everywhere
>find the spot where you can walk but the spell won't cast
Done, molotov the niggers or walk into them to reveal and then kill them.

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Is a Crosbow poison trapper valid? I want to make a big game hunter and then craft shit from whatever I kill. + how much Psi do I need to invest to have any use of it?

don't do any psi, it's gay as shit

yes thats fine on normal
just remember you can't poison robots but you still have other tools to deal with that

noice, i'm going in a little over. sucks to leave my house behind and all those nice crafting benches though.

You can fast travel through rifts directly to your basement with Dude's juice.

you can go back any time

I made the mistake of going psi and now the game keeps softlocking. The engine itself thinks psi is gay as shit.

when does he give me the goddamn recipe? do I have to find a certain number of rifts?

>shooting some generic fuckface in the head point blank
>full auto burst
>get like 3 crits
>guy is suppressed, almost dead
>missed a single shot during the burst
>"Learn to aim..."

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You need to have high biology/persuasion iirc.
Doesn't really matter since you can also set up a channel between him and Quinton so Dude can sell you stocks of juice for barely any money.

Psst, hey, user
>Version 1.1.0.14
>Fixed the exploit that allows Forcefield and some other abilities to be used to determine if there are hidden NPCs on targeted tiles

Hey it pissed you off, so the taunt worked.

>The engine itself thinks psi is gay as shit.
>Psi
>Gay as shit when it's literally based and redpilled

How does this look for a sniper/smg character

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Where the fuck do I get semi-decent (pig) leather?

I'd drop 1 agi/dex and get 7 int for better crafting

Lots of pigs roaming around in the caves, there's also that one butcher in foundry who sells pig pelts I think.

If you just want utility from psi, you don't need any will, 3 is fine, get psychokinesis to 25 for forcefield and temporal manipulation to 55 for temporal contraction.

And don't listen to the no-fun-allowed people that tell you to avoid psi.

It's fine, though smg isn't the best weapon to combo with sniper rifle
since you're using 2 guns you'd also want 1 more int for gun nut.

Should I drop something from the other stats or lvl it up to 7 in game?
Also what weapon do you recommend then? I saw people on the game forums saying that rifles aren't worth if you have only 5 strength because full auto

Even in numbers, a weakling is a weakling still

how tactical are smgs

You could dump agi, take 7 int and 7 str for full auto, perhaps even go down to 9 perception if you want 8 str for heavy armor.

But what about stealth then?

UNGA ME BURST ALL TURN EVERYTHING DEAD

What's the best AR? I just got a 9mm one that absolutely shreds shit to pieces.

Don't take heavy armor then.
But even with low agi, you won't have any trouble sneaking around if you max stealth. It does lower the effectiveness of feats like snipe and ambush however.

is the DLC expansion thing integrated into the main game or is it a whole separate thing at the end?
basically can I play through underrail and if I like it buy the DLC afterwards or would my first playthrough be better with the DLC already?

You can go there from the main city.
You can start pretty much at any point in the game.

There are a few other minor expansion things though.

He would lose Snipe then, unless he gets it back at level 4.

I played for more than half of the game with Corsair and 7.62mm Jag/Steel Cat with 5 str. If you find a good AR early on, you can eat Rathound Barbeque.
Btw, what are you planning to do with Chemistry? AFAIK, crafted special bullets are good with SMG Burst. Also you must have Dodge + High shield or Evasion + Low shield to survive with 3 Con.

It's a midgame expansion, recommended level of entry is 15 for ranged build and 20 for melee build.

>is the DLC expansion thing integrated into the main game
Yes, it's an extra region of the map, it's better to start with the DLC since it adds more universal content like feats, levels and equipment.

the DLC is not just the expedition it also includes weapons that you wouldn't find without it and feats

Grenades and shit like that mostly

It's mid-game DLC drip fed from the start, and adds much, new weapons, psi, crafting things, and so on. Playing with it from the start is definitely better. That said, why not buy the game, pay for a few hours, and if you like what you see reroll with the DLC?

really solid, I always recommend picking your base stats off the feats you're looking for. I see other anons here suggesting lower dex/agi and higher int. I agree with higher int since you're going to want the crafting feats to make the best possible leather and fabric gear, but if you're looking for specific dex or agi feats, you can always shape your build a touch at level 4 and 8 and hit your benchmarks

>9mm assault rifle

huh

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Should I play Underrail or Pathfinder Kingmaker next.

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You will find that shit constantly and crafting them, imo, is not necessary. Especially if you're a hoarding bitch so early game economics will be a breeze for you.

That's what im going to do since I need the dex for grenadier

this seems like the smartest call - I already have the base game on steam somehow. Must have been a bundle or something - if it clicks I'll get the dlc.

Thanks other anons too

>so what does it mean for the future of Underrail?
>We continue as planned but with a lot more financial security.
Fuck yes.

I've enjoyed some modern pc rpgs like divinity, but never played fallout

is this game worth it for me, or is it made solely for fallout fans?

Kingmaker
It's the more fun game by far, only downside is that it's pretty buggy

That's the only Sormirbaren with sparing, my guy.

then you're good to go. get some fatass grenades and go to town.

There's a specific jew skill in Underrail, so if that's literally you it's right up your ally.

i don't think he's talking about yngwar
there is a lone dude out there that's not yngwar

This. They're both similar in once case - both of them are build creating simulators

What?

How do I do it, bre
How do I make it happen? Can I not have more than 10 as a starting ability score?

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Fallout never grabbed me, but Underrail is one of my favorite games of all time. So it's not strictly for FO fans.

I'm not talking about Yngwar, I'm talking about the Skaerder in the cave in the northwestern corner of the map.

You get a stat point to spend every 4 levels.

Someone asked Styg about this sales spike. He gave a slightly more detailed answer later.
>I don't reveal sales data. What I said about it being the biggest media coverage can be applied to being the biggest sales spike as well, exceeding that of the initial Steam release (those were big events back before the Steam floodgates opened).
>Nothing has changed in regards to our immediate or long term plans (which I will talk about in the next dev log), though if this results in long-term increase of regular sales (once the spike ends and the dust settles), it might allow us to increase our production capacities and make the stuff we plan to make even better.

based serbs. I hope they never stop. I want to be autistically playing Underrail 4 when I'm 70

yeah but it's looking like it'll take me until level 28 to use it and that's with constantly scarfing down rat skewers.

I want it.

24 is the last stat point you get but at 26 you can get 2 more from a veteran feat. doable with rat king armor and a skewer, but really probably not worth it

Balor's hammer's a meme, any crafted hammer is better than that, I'd reckon the Quaker hammer is also better than Balor's.

FUG
why put it in and make it so deliciously tempting if it's all but impossible to use? I mean just look at that damage.

Where did he post this?

rpgcodex

Balor is, to put it simply, a boss, if you will. You will never be as strong as this Titan of humanity

>You will never be as strong as this Titan of humanity
>Gets ingloriously executed with a plasma shot to the head in a dark alley by a 70 Stealthfag without even realizing what is going on
>Titan of humanity

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I still have no idea what to do in expedition. the professor says go to nexus of technology, which is apparently not accessible. am I being a shitter? this is where the game is telling me to go, and I cannot go there. I don't see how I'm being a shitter.

Shut up

>got frozen/acid globbed and stood there in a doorway making angry faces for 2 turns before dying like a bitch
maybe next time I'll fight him mano a mano

Get a 'handy' from a friend in the mutie refugee

How can you clear the rocks around the caves? They take 0 damage from everything including explosives.

You have to find another entrance.

TNT.
Or jackhammers.

psi, tnt, jackhammer

>psi
does this mean you can sequence break and leave before you beat depot A?

TNT or Jackhammer. You need to progress the main quest a bit before merchants start selling them though.

I got the thing implanted in my arm even though it never told me to go there or do that and I don't know what the point is. I guess I can look for another entrance to the nexus even though I already went around that area loads in all directions

Nah, you need two mentors you can't get before Depot A.

So you went to the Lemurian health center first?
You can open the door to the Nexus with phil's arm

What do the different types of Shotguns specialize in? The wiki hasn't updated them yet.

if it's the entrance that matches the coordinates then it won't open for me unless I'm being spectacularly retarded somehow

tyranny has more shells I believe

Shotguns have higher base damage all around.
Combat shotguns have lower base damage but can burst 3 shells or more per turn like AR/SMGs.

Prepare for a long and exhausting walk unless your Agi is good.

Oh
You need to take the side entrance
Hope you like Spiders

About to start expedition. Any tips? Anything I should bring lots of?

Psi is undoubtedly an exploit that will eventually be fixed.

>Any tips?
Don't die.
>Anything I should bring lots of?
Ass and bubblegum.

so east?

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>Anything I should bring lots of?
Grit

I'll leave my psi hypos at the door then.

Hope you got Sure step
Hope you got 25 trapping skills
Hope you're fairly well armoured, or spew a lot of bullets
Bring A LOT of incendiary grenades
Bring A LOT of gas grenades
Bring A LOT of caltrops, better if poisioned
Bring A LOT of bear traps, better if poisioned
Bring plenty of explosive traps

When you land on the island for the very first time, stop whatever you're getting told to do and head east
You will find bottom part of the island as a completely vacant and empty shores
Turn that coast into the fucking shores of D day, caltrops and traps everywhere
They will come soon
They are legion
They do not fear death
And the only thing they want is your head

Antidotes. Psi boosters if you need them, there is exactly one mindshroom in the entire Black Sea. CAU armor if you have it.

Northeast, yes
It will suck a lot, endure the trip, dont go if you're short on supplies
Go in with MINIMUM 30 incendiary grenades

So, how the fuck do you display coordinates?

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The phone thingy Aegis gives you
It says in the description

I don't do grenades really, but I'm way overlevelled and have killed loads of everything already. thanks lads

>gas grenades
holy fuck I'm retarded, I spent the last 50 hours wondering why I could never find a "filler mixture" so I could make these and just now looked at the wiki

real 3 int moments right here

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I was level 24 and I almost died going in there
I was a Tungsten tank

Pride will be your death

Ok, thanks.

>mfw I have 0 antidotes

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>gas grenades
Crutch for domination and some hard encounters if you're melee,
Don't use them. They're OP

Dont worry user, happened to us too. You're not the only 3 INT here.
Very important question: Did you completed 'Kill the Beast' quest already?

Hey hey people

Just craft so... oh wait.

why in the fuck doesnt gamespeed affect overencumbered walking?

Whats the best build if I just want to slap as many debuffs on my enemies as I can?

If you got rifts, go visit all medic traders, they got your back, buy all antidotes

Its not impossible to use. And thing is, you have to account two things in Balors hammer of Justice
>Damage increased by 10% for every point in strength above 8.
>Ignores mechanical damage threshold when attacking organic targets.
So, 20 strength is already 12*8%, meaning good old 96% extra damage on a 100-200 damage weapon. Its true stats are fucking 196-392, whilst bypassing any dr whatsoever, so most bio enemies only resist like 20% of it tops, unless tincans. Two sings normaly, but take a quick snort of coke and not only do you do an extra 16% damage, you can do a third strike with lifters belt.

Impossible to use? Fuck no, its possible. But its the ultimate smashy smashy weapon that you have to retard focus on.

Do actually use them in Expedition if you want your melee experience to be anything less than miserable.

>I'm way overlevelled and have killed loads of everything already
You haven't even began to fathom loads of everything

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it's ok I've got >200 stealth I can just-
>bumps into an invisible spider

I just did another full playthrough of this when Expedition came out, but now I kind of want to play through again just so I can make fun of all the Ssethshitters failing to get past Depot A

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No cheating you silly faggot. Just eat a rathound BBQ.

Also can you pipeworking scum playing the game because of le funny man video not crash the wiki thanks.

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What is this meme?
I started the game when expedition came out and Depot A wasn't even hard, in fact it was the most fun area until that point because it finally gave me a reason to go all out with resources instead of hoarding them all the time

You don't need the wiki, user. You need to recognize it's a harmful obsession. You are better without it.

I think for people getting into standup fights the acid damage wrecks their shit.

Dont say we didnt warn you.
Eat your pride and return to resupply.

Shouldn't you be locked in the sierra madre you half senile old bitch?

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I have over 300 hours in this game and did my first play through blind, which got me locked out of the oculus for good since I killed Everard like a fucking idiot. I just wanted to see what the name of the fish is that gives you plus 20 carry weight. I know its a penta something.

A lot of retards get filtered at Depot A. Games journos especially completely fail at Depot A then write an angry review

nah I slipped past most of them

Well that's no surprise
Given the talent of the average game journo I'm surprised they got past Retake the outposts

Pentapus.

yeah the bitch is dead, did I need the drops from bladelings or something? I have a fair amount saved up.

You understimate how bad people can be at videogames

Pentapus barbeque
Gives +25 kg carry weight for 20 minutes

MERCHANT RUNS

>not keeping a lifting belt in your inventory at all times
the fuck are you zoners doing, bre

What the fuck are you talking about? There's no emergent gameplay on this.

What emergent gameplay are you talking about?

Going ironman psi. Wish me luck boys

Difficulty?

easy

So I started a new character and on the path to the cave hoppers there's a group of 3 npcs that are way more powerful than I am. The wiki say this is a random encounter so am I just screwed? Is there an alternative path?

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Dominating of course

>Ironman
>Easy
Literally the absolute worst combo you could choose, you'll walk over everything then accidentally shoot an ally and be unable to reload when they all turn hostile.

You could pay Svana for a lift to Junkyard and go from that direction. Or you could go exploring in the caves south from SGS's train station while you wait for them to fuck off. Which random encounter by the way?

Well, good luck then. Let's see how far you make it. First time playing psi?

I tried exploring from the other entrance but it seemed to be mainly blocked by cave-ins. Didn't think about the harbor cause I thought that was DLC stuff so I'll try that. The random encounter is Stephen the Horrible, Hank and Will. I tried using a frag grenade but Stephen survives it and then guns me down. I'm only level 3 with nothing but a sledgehammer.

>Retake the outposts
Speaking of, is there a reward for reactivating all the outposts? I always do them all anyway but

Thanks user. I've played psi a few times before, in fact it's pretty much the only build I use.

yeah you get paid more for doing all of them.

How come every time I'm murdering Grover Abram comes by, opens the door, and then walks away?

>one of my niggas got the game
>just started it earlier
>not sure what to do or tell them but will let them do their own thing
I hope they enjoy it like I am

He is a very curious motherfucker who wants to know whats up user. Its his job.

>Murdering Grover
>Missing out on a free energy core.
Because he heard the noise and is coming to check like NPCs usually do.

Random encounters usually disappear after some time, like an hour or so, but I'm not seeing theirs on the wiki. Try that path anyway on the way back, they'll probably be gone.

>not just pickpocketing the energy core anyways

Spear/shield tank who can set himself on fire
y/n

Is it really worth the 7 dex to get spear throw?

Bre Tier:
>Black Eels

Pipeworker Tier:
>Scrappers

>pickpocket jackhammer off miner that's using the jackhammer
>he's still jackhammering
but then who was phone

i wanna buy this badly.
>don't know if i will like it but really wanna psi things up and love muti options

70 metathermics is a big skill investment, bre, as someone trying to cram it into a hammer build

>he doesn't carry a spare jackhammer in his backpocket just in case
pleb

>>pickpocket jackhammer off miner that's using the jackhammer
>pickpocket
>pick pocket
>pocket
he had a jackhammer outside his pocket and a jackhammer inside his pocket

Just torrent it then, you'll figure out pretty quick if you like it or not.

>He's worried about that and not how someone managed to fit a jackhammer in their pocket

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eh, I'll take the hit on lockpicking/hacking and get like 50 each or something.

is that a jackhammer in your pants or are you just happy to see me?

It's cheap now, and who knows how long this sale will last. If it's psi and multi options you want, you probably won't be disappointed.
But eh, pirate it first if you are so uncertain. Blast through the first few hours. The discount likely will still be there tomorrow.

>Pickpocket a jackhammer
I just imagined user carefully removing a huge, heavy jackhammer from a tiny pocket of a clueless miner, all cartoony style

Im dying
Send help

Say, how much did that raise his suspicion?

>convincing Grover to lure whatsherface to the alley
>kill her
>then kill Grover
>take Grover's head
>don't even take the energy core
>pay Silas 100 rail bux anyway

Who here /chaotic stupid/?

>Dealing with crawlers
Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Don't Bother Exploring This Area Haha

you