So is this game shit or not?

So is this game shit or not?

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There’s no polite way of saying it. Greedfall is kind of fucked up. Wrapping yourself in the pageantry of the 18th century means recreating the iconography of colonial expansion and native slaughter. It means emulating a time when supposedly great men failed to do what was morally right, opting instead to do what was politically expedient. To merely call this a tension of Greedfall does it a disservice. It’s not just a momentary tension. It’s the entire game.

The visual language at play in this game harkens back to some vile shit.

ok but is it fun

So it's kino

I'm enjoying it. It's not special in literally any way but I didn't expect it to be. It's just a very serviceable rpg with a mildly intriguing story, cool sights and a mediocre combat system.

I very much recommend

I bought it cuz kotaku hates it. Don’t really ever plan on installing it.

Give ME Aphra wife!

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Great RPG, feels really nice.

Hi Kotaku kotaku.com/greedfalls-detailed-role-playing-cant-make-up-for-its-u-1837994750

Sold

Is there anybody easier to manipulate than incels?

A literal tranny wrote this

Mostly just the jankiness kinda started to wear down on me after ten hours. I kinda had flashbacks to the technomancer where the first act is the strongest and the rest just kinda falls short.

Joke's on you, when I said sold, I meant pirated :^)

>Deved by Spiders
Is this gonna be another eurojank game
They did do Mars: War Logs and Technomancer

Great, I'll take one copy please

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of course its another eurojank game.
its literally from a eurojank developer.

with that said, this is probably one of their best.

huh

Jank as fuck but not bad so far. But there is something about the way it plays that just feels slightly off, its very stiff

>says this as trannies are buying the last entry on a dead franchise just for the faggot flags

So is more of an RPG or an action game ? The trailers make it seem like there's a lot of fighting. Is there dialog skill checks and stuff like that ?

What's her personality and can you romance her ? Asking for a friend.

i actually like eurojank, it's a special kind of charming

So its manageable Eurojank, I mainly want to know if the story is gonna make me cringe or not

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To me it looks like a clear case of buy it when it's on sale. I can't justify buying it at launch when I have so many games I want to finish right now, and a lot of upcoming stuff I'm interested in. I've seen enough footage, and watched the Skill Up video on it, to hold off on playing it later on and much cheaper.

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It is literally better than all of biowares recent games in spite of its low budget. It's full of SOUL.

What I saw of the gameplay in the pre-release footage didn't look anything special. Everything looks clunky, particularly combat.

that is not much of an accomplishment.

so? its a video game.

WW2 killed 50 million people and its a pretty lively genre.

Thank YOU user! You ARE a GOOD user! I do NOT know user I did NOT find Aphra wife YET user BECAUSE I DID restart user BECAUSE Normal IS boring user AND you SHOULD play ON Extreme user! (You should! You should!)

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Seemed boring to me. Low budget openworld is rarely interesting or new.

>playing on extreme
Did you get past Sycamore on the other game you're playing?

All the good stuff happened before america even existed, now you american trannies are ruining it all

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its spiderjank. its at best going to be an average game that's pretty fun with plenty of soul but leaves you wanting more because you can see the potential in it despite the jank. only recommended if you like flawed gems.

this
Fuck marxist jew-loving mutts.

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>These brief moments feel trite, as if Greedfall is uncomfortable with itself. Can I do anything about these injustices? Can I tear down the system that perpetuates them? For the moment, the answer seems to be no. I would love to be proven wrong.

>I ask: what is Greedfall saying? What messages does it want to communicate to me?
>What themes are on display? I have no answers to these questions and if Greedfall does, it’s not been kind enough to reveal them yet.

>“It was never going to do that anyway,” my cynical brain says. But if part of my job is call on games to do better, then I also need to open myself up to the possibility that even fraught games may have the potential to achieve clarity.

wow.

>americans

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Any big spells that make you feel like a god, or is all you get throughout the game shit like "flames on your swords" , "small lightning shocks", etc...

i bounced off the jank combat tutorial and its fucktarded control scheme?
is the game worth actually figuring out how to play or will I just be wasting my time?

>they made 3 jank turds

why would anyone think that this game would somehow be good?

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Almost exactly what you'd read from some movie review.
>slow-burn
>thought provoking
>unpretentious
>kafkaesque
>orwellian
>tolkienesque
>lynchian
>self aware
>powerhouse
>glib facsimile
>uncompromising
>love-letter
>esque
>unapologetic
>oozing
>lovecraftian

Can't you tell it from the trailer?
Le ebil hwite manpigs colonising poor irish-negros en shiet. ZEY TUK OR OILEND! OOGA BOOGA!

Sounds like Kino, thank you user

>So is this game shit or not?
it's basically Dragon Age: Inquisition with a layer of eurojank on it. Depending on your tolerance for that sort of Action RPG with a focus on talkies, there's your answer.

Also your NPC companions are braindead turds and repeat the same barks over and over and over again

People get better.

I'll give it a pirate. If it's fun, I'll buy. I don't mind supporting underdogs.

From what I can tell it handles thing in a fairly evenhanded manner. The natives are dindu's, but they have their fair share of assholes and savages among them.

The hilarious part of course is that the natives are all white gaelics

The point of the game is that you can choose your own path.

Basically, you can become the GOD of the OOGA BOOGA (with an actual white wife) or you can choose to colonize all the island and be the new Hernan Cortes (with a black wife tho)

wait, black wife is conquistador? I thought she'd be more neutral considering she's a naturalist.

>Can I tear down the system that perpetuates them?
I bet that would turn out well considering your the noble of a small country, struck by a plague with every other country in the vicinity at war. Let's just piss off the two most powerful factions, it will be fine.
Imagine if people like this actually had to run a country.

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the games shit just like the previous games from this dev but people will buy it because some fag unwittingly market the game to /pol/tards with his whiney white guilt diatribe. Now people are going to pretend this game is good just to "own the libs". Its Kingdom Come Deliverance all over again.

Please tell me I can play the conquistador, and can be "the bad guy" in this game.

>implying Yuros give a shit about your toddler-tier politics

I'd pick it up if it wasn't 60 fucking dollars, fuck that shit.
>dude just pirate
too much effort

the funny thing, if you read the article - which I don't recommend because it's aweful - the reason heshe is so booty blasted is they realize that being woke would be a very bad idea for their character, and that it's much easier and often more logical to not make too many waves - especially given your role in the game. This is causing dissonance with their indoctrination, which is that anyone who doesn't gel with their beliefs HAS to be a monster undeserving of sympathy.

They're deeply uncomfortable because it's undermining the narrative they've created for themselves

>Its Kingdom Come Deliverance all over again.
It was actually good.
No amount of "owning the libs" can save this trash

>Its Kingdom Come Deliverance all over again.
wow that game fucking stunk, one of the only things I've ever refunded. /pol/ really bamboozled me on that one.

your politics are just our politics but on a smaller scale lol. you have the same exact arguments about immigration and fags

They didn't get better at all watch a gameplay.

>your politics are just our politics but on a smaller scale lol.
Euro's are not nearly as assblasted about colonialism as Americans, which is hilarious because Euro's are the ones who did all of it

Why would you want to fuck a nigger over the native chick?

the game looks like and plays like shit, go back to /pol/ you fucking retard tranny.

Does greedfall have sjw bullshit in it?

I don't mind sjw games existing but I don't want to buy them.

Be careful my hillary leftist lover friend. Your "this game is racist and /pol/" didnt work last time and kingdom come sold more than it should have

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About as much of a rpg as Bitcher 3. Next game is going to be a AA trannypunk tier shit it seems.

>your politics are just our politics but on a smaller scale lol

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fag youre countries are letting in unchecked billions of migrants over wars WE cause because you're so guilty about colonialism. fuck off. you're in the same boat as us. the greatest trick eurocucks ever played on the world was making people think they're somehow more sophisticated or intelligent than anyone else. I've been to your countries, its just as fat, just as stupid and just as cucked.

How about I play it myself and judge it then?

Its decent but its held back by its budget

Does it ever try to push a colonists bad, natives good agenda or is it like a obshitian game where everyone is a cunt in some way or another?

They actually both niggers

Just immigration, because we're actually being affected by it on a large scale. When it comes to women's rights, gay rights etc. the US still seems to be at about the same point we were back in the early 90's.

And Americans complaining about immigration is laughable. For one, you're all immigrants with less than 300 years of history, and there's no way Mexicans are as bad as what we're dealing with.

kek

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>Does greedfall have sjw bullshit in it?
CANT. YOU. FUCKING. FIGURE IT OUT BY THE TRAILER?

I'm not even European and your assmad is amazing, i'm in fucking South Carolina man

Pretty sure you can side with the colonists if you wish. No idea about if the colonists are portrayed as ebil and the natives dindus or if both factions have good or bad to them.

>there's no way Mexicans are as bad as what we're dealing with
Mexicans are a convenient scapegoat, American politicians have been claiming the country is at a crisis point for literally a fucking century. One of the reasons we illegalized Marijuana was to have an excuse to arrest and deport mexicans for christ sake.

Ones white, ones not and has dark skin.

they seem to actually be going for the "they're bad, but we're just as bad"

in fact kotaku seems to fucking hate it, so it must be based.

slavery was common practice throughout the world for most of humanity's history.

>And Americans complaining about immigration is laughable. For one, you're all immigrants with less than 300 years of history

are you unironically pulling the "immigrant" shit when the clear problem is the illegal nature?

based or not it plays like shit in every aspect
Even now.

Just let people enjoy their game, why act like such a moaning little bitch because of it? No one is telling you not to buy life is strange neither because it's politics fit your trannybrain better neither.

>everyone worried about SJW shit and "colonists bad!"
Isn't the MC the son of a noble whose family, himself and his country are being ravaged by a plague, with a potential cure being on the island? Surely that's enough justification for you to work with the colonists. Plus your a diplomat iirc, properly some ending where you can get the two to chill the fuck out and cooperate.

>it plays like shit in every aspect

what the fuck even is it?

It still is.
Slavery and human trafficking has never thrived as well as it does today in fact.

pirate it and find out yourself

where can I buy a cute sex slave?

Based Valerie-user.

downloading the free edition
i expect an extremely buggy mess on the technical side
and some woke shit on the designs side

Lol I bought it and gifted my little brother a copy too. I doubt either of us will ever play it, but I have to support their politics.

>how is the combat
>can I be a gun only fag gunning down everything
>How is the writing/companions

You can choose to do some pretty fucked up shit but the setting doesn't really treat you like it. For instance you can fuck over the natives brutally and the game won't give you a 40 minute lecture about why that was evil. Sure, the natives will hate you but you'll have factions who will treat you like what you did was good.

Basically trannies are upset that the game doesn't treat you like a righteous holy liberator for standing up to racists or like an evil monster for working with them.

imagine looking like this, picking two random female first names (Heather Alexandra) and making your twitter handle "transgamerthink"
How, and I'm being serious here, how fucking embarrassing must that be?

why are you so butthurt someone has an opinion?

Yeah it's pretty shit

>I have to support their politics.
What politics? COLONIZATION BAD?
>buying shit SJW games to annoy the right
Fucking tard.

>How, and I'm being serious here, how fucking embarrassing must that be?

lack of self awareness tends to do that.

forgot pic LOL

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I think its the other way around desu.

>Basically trannies are upset that the game doesn't treat you like a righteous holy liberator for standing up to racists or like an evil monster for working with them.
Aren't you suppose to be a diplomat? Surely that would mean you'd have to do a balancing act of keeping both sides happy, not going all in on one.

Based as fuck. I'll buy it as long as it makes trannies butthurt. Fuck leftist game journalist snowflakes.

Why are you false-flagging? Everyone knows by now that the game takes a very neutral stance to the moral issue of colonization and just lets you decide for yourself what you want to do.

>Do you want to play as a bleeding heart liberator?
You can, but you'll piss off powerful people and will make the game harder on yourself.
>Do you want to play as a opressive colonist?
You can, but you'll piss off certain groups and make the game harder on yourself.
>Do you want to play as an appeaser to all factions?
You can, it's the most rewarding but you're essentially trying to not rock the boat with anyone too much.

That kotaku cunt was basically upset that you couldn't play the bleeding heart liberator without negative consequences.

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>Aren't you suppose to be a diplomat? Surely that would mean you'd have to do a balancing act of keeping both sides happy, not going all in on one.
Yeah, that's why keeping all sides happy nets you the best rewards and results. You can side with specific factions over others if you want, but there will be negative consequences for that but might be more fun/satisfying.

>>Do you want to play as a opressive colonist?
>You can, but you'll piss off certain groups and make the game harder on yourself.

Ah shame I was going to roleplay one.

Then do so? If factions like you they'll give you items and shit but if you're dicking them over you're still getting treasure when you kill them and dick them over generally.

doesn't fighting off seething liberators make the roleplay more fun?

I would never take a thing this person says seriously. This is the modern day clown.

why do they look so much like Roy Batty

Sure thing shill.

Can I fugg brown natives in this game

is there somewhere i can see a complete list of romance options

>false-flagging
See
Fuck off retard.

Is it fun after 10 hours? Can it keep up with risen 3 in terms of Jungle exploration?

So in other words it's another far cry 5, journos thought it would be white man bad and it wasn't.

Thats pretty much every spiders game, bound by flames was the same

Just watch the review or something.
youtu.be/UfsZPkaVtYc

It's a really tryhard game. Like it's trying really hard to be this big, expansive RPG but they just didn't have the manpower/budget/skill to make it so. And as such, there's this really artificial feeling throughout the game. Like you're just playing one big theater act, it's pretending to be something it's not. It's a feeling you can't really shake off either.

Just like other games they made

I understand the technical flaws such as stiff overall animations and rather easy combat, but I don't get this entire argument of Kotaku.

It's a land, struck by plague in colonial era - the entire premise is way different than a game where the focus is a hero delivering 8bit street justice. Desperate times, desperate measures. It's not injustice.

I really do not understand the picture Kotaku is trying to portray with this line of argument regarding messages, themes, morality checks..

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I like it as long as it's paced well.

The only reason it's really jank is because they keep overreaching ambition-wise and don't spend enough time just working on the core animations, SFX, mechanical timing etc that you spend 90% of the game looking at.

You can fuck ONE native but she really isn't brown.

I might be getting old and jaded but for kotaku article about a game this one does decent job describing what kind of game you are getting yourself into and main concepts and mechanics.Also the reviewer is clear that the things and their thoughts 'bout colonialism and themes etc. are opinions.

I don't get why anyone should hate or ridicule this particual review comparing to schlock kotaku has put out.

>comparing
Nobody is comparing. It's a sloppy article.
That the rest of Kotaku is so much infinitely fucking worse isn't being factored into the discussion.

Can I change difficulty midgame? I hear the hardest difficulty is the way to go, but I'm afraid I may be too bad for that

>how is the combat
Less shit than previous Spiders games. Still not good.
>can I be a gun only fag gunning down everything
If you stock pile on ammo and don't mind doing less dmg than melee or magic.
>How is the writing/companions
Main story is interesting enough to keep you going. Companions are rubbish though (12 hours in at least). They have 1 dialogue option and the "loyalty" quests are crap

ACG liked it
youtube.com/watch?v=uPGaSAkmY6o
and yes you can change the difficulty mid game

How good are the waifus in the game though?

It's good.

>fantasy setting based on 18th century
Fuark, why didn't I hear about this game before?

I don't get it, everything I've heard about this game indicates it takes a pretty strong "colonialism BAD" stance and siding with hippie elves is the good end. What's the problem exactly?

Basically, that user got it: The game realistically portrays difficult times, and what good natured men are forced to do to survive. This clashes with their deep rooted belief that their morality is absolute, only racists can be racists, and people from the past were all evil and racist.

The root of that article is that the game made them deeply uncomfortable, in a way that scarred them. That's why the article is so bizarrely written. They can't explain well why they disliked it, but they disliked it, it chaffed against their programming.

Cognitive dissonance is the term, I couldn't remember it earlier. And it's a hell of a drug

>In the field of psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort (psychological stress) experienced by a person who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values. This discomfort is triggered by a situation in which a person's belief clashes with new evidence perceived by the person. When confronted with facts that contradict beliefs, ideals, and values, people will try to find a way to resolve the contradiction to reduce their discomfort.[1][2]

>In A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance (1957), Leon Festinger proposed that human beings strive for internal psychological consistency to function mentally in the real world. A person who experiences internal inconsistency tends to become psychologically uncomfortable and is motivated to reduce the cognitive dissonance, by making changes to justify the stressful behavior, either by adding new parts to the cognition causing the psychological dissonance or by avoiding circumstances and contradictory information likely to increase the magnitude of the cognitive dissonance.

>The contradiction of a belief, ideal, or system of values causes cognitive dissonance that can be resolved by changing the challenged belief yet, instead of effecting change, the resultant mental stress restores psychological consonance to the person by misperception, rejection, or refutation of the contradiction, seeking moral support from people who share the contradicted beliefs or acting to persuade other people that the contradiction is unreal.

Because it's pure eurojank. Spiders to their credit though seem to have improved with each game they make.

>The early hypothesis of belief contradiction presented in When Prophecy Fails (1956) reported that faith deepened among the members of an apocalyptic religious cult, despite the failed prophecy of an alien spacecraft soon to land on Earth to rescue them from earthly corruption. At the determined place and time, the cult assembled; they believed that only they would survive planetary destruction; yet the spaceship did not arrive to Earth. The confounded prophecy caused them acute cognitive-dissonance: Had they been victims of a hoax? Had they vainly donated away their material possessions? To resolve the dissonance between apocalyptic, end-of-the-world religious beliefs and earthly, material reality, most of the cult restored their psychological consonance by choosing to believe a less mentally-stressful idea to explain the missed landing: that the aliens had given planet Earth a second chance at existence, which, in turn, empowered them to re-direct their religious cult to environmentalism and social advocacy to end human damage to planet Earth. On overcoming the confounded belief by changing to global environmentalism, the cult increased in numbers by proselytism.[7]

>The study of The Rebbe, the Messiah, and the Scandal of Orthodox Indifference (2008) reported the belief contradiction occurred to the Chabad Orthodox Jewish congregation who believed that their Rebbe (Menachem Mendel Schneerson) was the Messiah. When he died of a stroke in 1994, instead of accepting that their Rebbe was not the Messiah, some of the congregation proved indifferent to that contradictory fact and continued claiming that Schneerson was the Messiah and that he would soon return from the dead.[8]

Because it's not woke enough for online journo's

For a game setting that seem SJW.
It actually portray the conflicts quite grey.
Huh didn't expected that, no wonder Kotaku hate it lmao

>It means emulating a time when supposedly great men failed to do what was morally right, opting instead to do what was politically expedient.
Isn't this all of human history with an exception or two every century?

>They can't explain well why they disliked it, but they disliked it, it chaffed against their programming.
Did we read the same thing because to me it was clear that the dislike and frustration from the author felt came from the themes being something they wanted to interact more according to their own moral point of view but the game was not built in a way that allowed them to do that so the author feeling frustrated is quite understandable because I can safely say that most of us who have played enought games have faced frustrating moment when the game design does not let you do/resolve a things/situatio the way you wanted.

For even more defence of the writer their third to last paragrahp of the review reads:

"Some players may not be bothered by all this. For those players, what will matter is whether the combat is decent. It mostly is. What may also matter is whether the role-play offers options for solving quests. It does, although you can probably just get by with high charisma. That Greedfall is a decent RPG will be enough, for some. For me, it isn’t. Not right now."

Unless one is completely retarded or I am going mentally insane this seems to to prove my point about author saying the game is decent but they are not satisfied with how the devs make players deal with the themes of the game.

I approve Kotaku bashing and join with vigor when they/writer deserves it but this text is by itself is not that bad unless you think author being clearly leftist makes it deserving but then we are losing the point of the text and moving to adhominem territory.

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The dude obviously feels like a girl, I say whatever brah, doesn't really effect me

Sold

>It was actually good.
Lolno it wasn't.
Name 1 (one) gameplay element that was enjoyable in that game.

i fucking hate the combat, dropped

In Saudia Arabia.

I un-ironically enjoyed the combat.
Bonking fags on the head with a mace and watching them drop was amusing. An another note the game was just pretty comfy, especially when you could roam around with your dog

>but the game was not built in a way that allowed them to do that

But the game did allow them to interact according to their moral point of vieuw. It was just not always the most efficient option available.

She's a science maniac, not really a colonizator. Petrus is the colonizator.

Gonna play this when i get home.
How's magic in this? Is it effective? Or should i go melee or maybe guns?

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Combat was pretty fun despite you going from weak pleb to combat demon pretty abrubtly. The quests were generally quite interesting. Character progression was quite nice. the larp as well.

>I ask: what is Greedfall saying? What messages does it want to communicate to me?
>EVERYTHING IS POLITICAL, EVERYTHING IS A MESSAGE

>So is this game shit or not?

The good:
>RPG systems are great
>setting is good
>voice acting and video presentation are solid, especially lighting

The bad:
>repetitive levels (worse than Dragon Age 2)
>imbalanced combat that you have so many ways to cheese, its a challenge not to
>bad PC port, obviously a console first game

Conclusion: Its not The Witcher, its not Mass Effect, etc. Its barely on par, if you don't have anything to play, pick it up. Else wait for heavy discounts and heavy patching.

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It's great, and it's just fueling sjw rage

Magic is fine but your early spells are a little lackluster.

If you thought ELEX or Risen 3 are good games that you played through more than once, you'll love this.

This one is stretched a bit thin, its really a 15 hour game that asks you for 40 hours.

>haha, I didn't buy your propaganda, I pirated it
you still consumed it, you brainless faggot

My taste must be incredibly shit because everyone is shitting on the combat but I think it's quite fun. Better than most action rpg's.

>>It was actually good.
>Lolno it wasn't.
>Name 1 (one) gameplay element that was enjoyable in that game.

Combat
Storyline
Quests
Immersion

Pretty much 90% that makes for a good rpg

The combat was horrendous though. A triumph of MUH REALISM fags over the notion of fun gameplay. It kept me from enjoying the game, even though everything else in it was made for me.

>Greedfall
oh shit, is this the actual name of a game? I thought it's some meme about some game with some-fall name.

They would complain about witcher the same way if it was set in more realistic setting just because they can't live out their unrealistic savior fantasy.
Author has a political agenda. Renaissance period wasn't worse than any other.
Also from what I can see so far they made "middle easterners" secular unlike the "catholics". That should score some good jurno points.

I dislike the article because the author is effectively putting the cart ahead of the horse. Anyone whose ever played an RPG of this sort could tell you just from the trailers that siding with the natives against the colonists would be an option (and, indeed, it is) but the author who wrote this review before the story was even concluded is acting as if the game is some sort of tacit approval of colonialism because it did not immediately open with the ability to shit on the concept. At least, not enough to their liking. They're unwilling to actually interact with the narrative because they are more interested in the conclusion. It would be like saying "I only read or watch stories that have happy endings", or in this particular case being negative on something like Inglorious Bastards because you spend a number of scenes with Nazi characters not immediately being killed or ridiculed (despite that being the ultimate goal of the film).

>Doesn't enjoy parrying every blow into decapitating counter-attacks leaving camps full of dismembered bandit corpses

Absolutely low test mate, next you're going to tell me you don't like big asses on girls.

Okay, but for serious:

Can I actually have the option of going full 18th century colonist and choose to irreversibly screw over the natives?

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>he doesn't agree with me
You must be short, gay, and like taking it up the ass.
This is (You). Stop making abhorrent posts.

Pretty much this. It wanted the game to ridicule and completely dismember the idea of colonization as if it's impossible to produce anything good. But instead the game provides a practical vieuw of colonization, show the good and the bad.

It's especially funny because the author admits that siding with the natives completely is an option, but he was too much of a spineless fag to do it, and ended up just trying to appease all sides.

You post was literally just disagreeing with someone elses opinion as well. I was just fluffing my post up to have a bit of fun with you, sorry, I thought this was Yea Forums and a little bit of playful ribbing wasn't too much to handle.

>i was only pretending to be retarded
You are a living meme, my fine dude. And the combat system is shit.

How did colonialism "screw over" natives?

It is on the good side of "okay." Combat is fun enough, the story is nice, and the world building is excellent. There are a bunch of little things that are annoying but dont really detract from the game.

>Lots of ways to solve puzzles
This means there are literally 3 "doors" such as a locked door, a wall you can blow up, or a guard you can charisma check literally all right next to each other.

>Crafting is locked behind skill points
It is also mandatory for some basic quests that you can get as soon as 3 hours into the game. If you want to craft ammo for a gun build you need 2 skill points and you only get them every 4 or 5 levels. This stops you from getting things like lockpicking or charisma.

>Ammo is hard as fuck to obtain
You can also blow it all in one fight in literately seconds. Guns are powerful but merchants only have around 5 ammo to sell at any given time meaning you can go hours unable to use your gun just because you cant find ammo.

>Very little conversation branches or story control
Most people will only talk about 1 thing and whatever quest related reason you need to talk to them for. You also cant control most quests and the few you can give you two options. Brown nose the faction or piss them off and do the "right" thing. Doing the "right" thing has no different rewards and leads nowhere from what I can see while also pissing off factions which DO go places. Hell the factions start rewarding you basically as soon as you do what they want you to do.

Its a solid 7.5/10. Its fun to play but its very much a one play through only kind of deal. Explore the world which is actually really nicely crafted but that's it.

fuck off retard cunt your comment is the equivalent to a CGI trailer that shows no gameplay

kill yourself

Africa is a prime example
Lump a bunch of tribes within boundaries created by europeans and you have social instability forever

Ain't trying to get into a history/ethics debate user, I'm just asking a question.

shitty game riding off of controversy
hard pass

>game comes out and has a mostly negative rating
>kotaku article goes up shitting on the game
>rating skyrockets to very positive
huh, i wonder why that is

Jokes on you. I never launch games I pirate.

>controversy
wat

More like 16th centuary

Its going more of the meritocracy angle and EVERY faction is fucked up. The only faction that so far has not shown blatant "WE ARE EVIL" flags is the merchant nation you are representing but I think that is only because I haven't gotten far in the story. Even the Muslims are fucking evil as shit. Literally kidnapping people and forcing them through horrible experiments in the name of science. They also treat diplomacy as "If it works out great! But if it doesn't we have all your ambassadors as hostages now and we will totally murder them in front of you just to spite you for wasting our time!" I was really pleasantly surprised since I thought the game was going to suck their dick.

Shut your mouth north-american ideologue filth.

To think, they could have had Wakanda by now.

>muh intelligent niggers

its shit

Why the fuck do American leftists hate both American history (and I mean pre US history, like colonists and Columbus and stuff) AND modern America so much? if they hate it so much why don't they go somewhere else?

Felt like nu-Bioware to me so I refunded it and bought Pathfinder instead.

Give me two copies please.

OK, you win this one.

Reread the article again.

The writer admits they could have sided with the natives, but it was difficult, and they didn't have the moral fortitude for it. Siding with the native should have been easy in an ideal world. It wasn't. It was a real ordeal. And he was too cowardly for this ordeal, and he felt wrong, and that's the game's fault, because a good game should make heroism easy. He felt like a racist because that was the easiest solution he chose, and it completely destroyed the poor man.

This isn't a rational article. This is a deeply bizarre article written by someone who had something completely explode their previous worldview, and hate it.

Yes. You can go full "steal their women and take their land." Its actually kind of funny watching your native party member's reactions.

Well the religious faction really dont do a good job selling their fish either
The only faction I want to help is mine own, and that is because it has motives I can at least relate to

I found two bugs already. This one won't let me finish the quest. I'm telling the guy everything is ready but the quest won't complete.

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Sounds like shit.

If you told me years ago that reading Yea Forums would end up feeling like I’m reading discussion on some fucking boomer political Facebook page I would’ve laughed but here we are

Sound kino as fuck

Have you left for the island yet?

Unless the spiders blow their money into something unrelated, their next game should finally have some polish
This seems to have been the one to sell the most , probably the review embargo helped

no

The quest continues on.

Fuck you faggots.
I'm Native and I'm sick or white people saying what I'm supposed to be offended by.
Seriously, worry about your own problems.
I like Native representation in games and I'm one of the minority who like Assassin's Creed 3 because you play as a Native American during the 18th century.
Stop trying to silence us.

didnt your weekly grape juice delivery arrive or something

The game isnt about you lad
Its about Celts
And the criticism was towards colonialism, not north american native population culling

The article literally points out native slaughter.
Fuck them and fuck you.

>describes the game well with concepts and mechanics etc.
Doesn't seem so to me

N

>Hey hey people

Based

The amount of colonial memes he could get out of this game could be pretty good

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you animals shouldn't be "represented" in media you don't produce. The same reason the USA doesn't belong to you firewater swilling fucktards, you didn't create it.

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Kingdom Come was unironically good.

Only game in the last 3-4 years that I 100% it.

so, i have a question. The endgame of a mtf trans person is to become a passable woman, right? Then why do they have to point out they're trans at every pportunity?

How the fuck it is possible to have the journalism sector swarmed by people. Like this? How and when that happened?

Seriously, I need answers. Who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to make this people write an article? God, only his page description made me cringe

>write a impressions article saying that you like a game but you don’t think it makes use of its setting well
>autists don’t actually read it and have no reading comprehension so they buy it to epically own you
Good job Yea Forums

Its because they literally don't know how to do anything useful. They got shit degrees and only know how to throw opinions around so they all piled onto the few job sectors where they can make money doing that.

Fuck off with your fucking politics. It's a good game but a little bit janky.

Because they need validation and special points.

You fags keep calling her "they" is fucking infuriating.

Social "Science"/journalism majors get their opinion mill degrees and then have to get a job, what could be easier than applying low level pomo philosophy to gaming/movies? That's why they are so numerous.

Best starting class?

Give ME Technical wife!

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Plot twist it turns out you are of shit skin native descent yourself in the game and can become their god

yes pls

I can’t wait until people start sperging out about this in these threads

For people on the fence to buy or pirate :

The worldbuilding is kino
The quests are kino
The graphics are sometimes excellent but animations are a little bit janky.
Combat is stiff and jank but quite fun if you can get past it.
Voice acting is excellent, dialogue options are limited but the good story carries it.
The rpg elements are quite good for an action rpg, though too much is locked behind skills in my opinion.

I've heard a bunch of people parrot that the game is spread too thin, i'm not sure what they're talking about to be honest. The game basically doesn't have any filler quest and the exploration is optional and quite fun if you get into it. The most obvious downsides are the slightly janky combat (which I think is still quite fun) and lack of polish.

I've never been a fan of the 1700s aesthetic + fantasy desu.

Combat is fun as long as you dont rush plates and best weapons like a tard. My gambeson only + fearnot run was fucking neat.
But i wont lie, beign a fucking juggernaut in full plate, smashing skulls with maces was also nice.

>tfw you read above your writing level

>but the author who wrote this review before the story was even concluded is acting as if the game is some sort of tacit approval of colonialism because it did not immediately open with the ability to shit on the concept. At least, not enough to their liking.

The author did not write a review of the whole game. They wrote first impressions of the game after 10 hours of gameplay so they do not imply conclusion but their frustration how they percieve game to deal with themes making some pessimistic remarks how they have no faith in story to deliver anti-colonialism message they seek.

>They're unwilling to actually interact with the narrative because they are more interested in the conclusion.

"but in my first 10 hours of playing, I’ve yet to see these moments of awareness coalesce into anything actionable. (I could butt heads with said racist church official and state my disbelief in his god, but I couldn’t intercede as he choked a “sinner” to death.) There’s been very little opportunities to push back. You might prevent a tragedy here or there, but so long as the game pushes the player acquiesce to formality and political decency, there’s no room for any transformative action. I’m hoping this changes in the later segments of the game."

This piece of a paragraph seems to directly opposed with the implication that the author was unwilling to interact with the narrative and even makes a point that the author hopes a chance for "transformative action" in future.

I am incapable to take a stance on validity of authors "unwillingess" since I have not played and have little intrest to play the game (eurojank rpgs are not my thing) so I would appriciate if you or somebody could bring up actual example from the game showing that you could make a work withing the games narrative the way author hopes in first 10 hours of the game.

I assure you I use they to ignore sex of the writer as a formality.

>kino
never listen to anyone using this word, ironically or not. You just showing your bad taste and retardness, retarded retard.

I can get it for 36 euros/less than 40 USD, should I get it?

Minus Blasphemous I can't think of a single other game to play.

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BASED DILATED TRANNY

Better buy Rance in a couple of days when it's coming out.

Rhyme more for me senpai

It takes more from Renaissance though. Why people keep saying it's 18th century?

Gets them job security and protected victim class status here in clown world.

> god tier graphics
> bloodborne gameplay
> pirates
I’m insta bought it after seeing Dan playing it yesterday

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Because they see one tricorne hat and think its the Regency period while in reality the game is based on 17th century, going by style of other clothing and overall feel of the world.

I have reread the article about 10 times now and have it open as I write and I am still unable to find see from the article where you pull most of these claims that author lacks moral fortitude and is cowardly in this ordeal of a videogame.

At this point I ask you to quote the text where you find this context because in my quite neutral position It seems you are pulling things from your arse or magic up implications about the writers person as adhominem attacks because Kotaku, sjw or some other pointless and irrelevant shit in the context of honest critique of a text.

And because I care about you I made a pastebin from the article so you do not have to give clicks to kotaku.
pastebin.com/F37E8V0A

Why do YOU talk like THIS? (Why? Why? Why?)

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>Americans are immigrants
Actually, if you want to be retarded, we were britbongs when that happened. Americans conquered both America and britain. We're conquerors, not immigrants.

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Which Rance is coming out?

What! You SHOULD play Pathfinder Kingmaker user AND ask mommy Jamandi questions IN introduction user BECAUSE she WILL say now if I could PLEASE ANSWER the question AND she DOES say even those who JUST GOT LUCKY and she DOES have CUTE mommy voice user AND she DOES give me GREAT soreness user! (She does! She does!)

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>now if I could PLEASE ANSWER the question
You know, I always did find that delivery a little odd. It's burned into my memory now.

Thank YOU user! You ARE a GOOD user!

>I have not played and have little intrest to play the game
Based

Not really, more like immigrants.
Unlike South America, natives were spread too thin and had a low population so they were hardly an obstacle for pilgrim
s compared to the literal empires in the south.
Spaniards can say that, not you.

I love you

basado y rojopastillado

Started as a mage on the highest difficulty and i can't even beat my first encounter in the city.
WELL SHIT.

Learn to parry and take your time

Literally just spam magic missile and stasis the guy with a gun lol

It's fucking comfy is what it is

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Why not just play some 9/10 ubisoft AC title?

Do you guys play on a pad or on a keyboard?

because the combat in this game is fun and I like the story

>any AC
>9/10

Yup the gunner was the problem with his one shot kill. Focused on him and the rest was easy.

ARE

YOUR

BOOTS

WORN

THROUGH

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Downloading the pirate right now. How's the optimization?

Great, really. The game looks good. The lighting is a bit weird, I think? You either love it or hate it, but it does make everything very atmospheric.
The literal only time I dropped in frames was when I have a shit-tonne of enemies on screen in a busy scene. Cities and shit run smoothly.
Turn off Vsync

Kek. All sorts of reviews too, not just movies.

Still in the prologue area and already a quest is bugged. Good job Spider.

>ye olden time setting
>sepia color grading

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Not the user you were talking to but I just wanna say I love the way you type

It looks fun, thats all what I care about.

So, its historically accurate for the era the setting takes place in?

Pirate.

Well, BF could be close, if you cut AC elements from it.

>kingdom come
>good combat
It's solved by just spamming the basic attack. The AI can't cope with it.

Can I change my hair/beard post-creation? I want a different moustache.
It's very fun. Combat reminds be of Bloodborne of all things

I can get it for £33, is it worth it for that price or is that still too much?

I'd wait until its on sale, which it likely is to be once the release hype dies down.

even 1 muslim is 1 too many

That's a whole lot of shit you just said and not a single part of it had to do with gameplay. Please stop making posts like this for future reference thanks.

Can I store my items somewhere?

>Looking at history with a modern lense

Le sigh. Colonialism and realpolitik was considered morally right at the time. It was considered morally right to destroy godless heathens and to exercise, and I quote: "Our god-given right and Manifest Destiny to overspread ourselves and democracy to all the lands on God's green earth".

I'm not saying its right by the standards of today, and that's why we've rightfully done away with colonialism and such, but when you look at history you really should learn to look at things from the perspectives of the people who lived there at the time. Nobody woke up every day in the middle of colonial Spain and thought to themselves "You know, I really am a Monster for helping my people to prosper and spreading the influence of (Spain/England/France/Belgium/USA/Insert Country You Hate Here) so that my family and neighbors can have long and prosperous lives."

It was a dog eat dog world, and people fucking ate. Also you're kind of a moron. You seem to be under the impression that your personal morals are set in stone and that nobody would ever disagree that an entire century of vital human history was anything but bad. That's wrong and you should feel wrong.

He's quoting a review you dummy. You just wasted 5 minutes of your life typing all this up.

People keep talking about how this game doesn't take a side and it's muh epic centrism about colonialism but it's a game about colonialism literally called greedfall
I mean I might change my opinion when I get to actually play it but it's looking like you're not meant to think the colonialism is a good thing just that you CAN do it.

So he should copy and paste that to whoever wrote that dumbass review.

To put it succintly, this game doesn't really do anything new. The only thing that actually stood out to me about this game is the variation in the "morality" of each faction's characters, and the setting. Which, even then they didn't have the balls to go all out on. It feels like a timid skin-color-swapped take on the subject which I couldn't give less of a shit about because of the boring sidequests and the animations taking me right out of any immersion or interest in character development.

Getting rather sick of these RPGs with shitty combat.

that's what I figured just looking at it, I'll get it at 50% or something

Nobody is saying killing people is good but other games do it and there's no problem unless it's something related to American history.

pirate it and find out
fun is subjective

I'm really digging it. Guess you really should try it out yourself before listening to all the negativity here.

S-soreness???

>shitty combat
I like it

He's quoting a copypasta you dummy. You just wasted 10 seconds of your life typing all this up.

Should I get this or Blasphemous?

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dilate your infected hole-wound faggot

What's it more like? Gothic, Elder Scrolls, or Dragon Age?

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Play Daggerfall Unity and don't spend a dime.

Honestly it's like a bad mix of Dragon Age 2 and Assassin's Creed.

>mediocre Spider RPG gets constant threads and seems to sell pretty good
>two of the best cRPGs in 15 years are basically unknown outside of maybe RPG Codex
For a board dedicated to video games it always baffles me how many people here don't really give a shit about their own hobby.

>You can also blow it all in one fight in literately seconds.

Fuck. I wanted to play a CHA+INT(uition) diplomat with Guns and some Magic. If I have to take 2 Science too I will quickly run out of (otherwise precious) Talent points.

Only Vigor can be safely neglected, even if there's content locked behind it. Lockpicking would be super-useful for early game. Crafting too, but I guess you can pass on that.

Do romance options exist? Just curious.

This board has nostalgia for Borderlands and Halo my dude, the average age is somewhere around 15.

cRPGs are a lot more niche

>>two of the best cRPGs in 15 years are basically unknown outside of maybe RPG Codex

I'll bite, which ones you talking about?

Underrail and Pathfinder Kingmaker.

SJWs are getting mad at it so obviously the whole EUROPEANS BAD must not have actually been the message of the game which I expected immediately from the cinematic trailer, that you would fight the colonials with the aid of some mexican blood gods or somehting.

there you go

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I hope someone answers because this is important to me as well

Indieshit and RNG the game?

Also why are you comparing a game like Greedfall to isometric perspective games? They're basically different genres.

˙No hablo illegal.

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I don’t think many of those people actually played the game more than a couple hours in at best.

Everyone talks about them, hardly unknown at all

oh its you

It's right here
>In the time I’ve played Greedfall, it’s clear that while I can alienate factions (sometimes gaining favor with my companions for doings so) there’s a great deal of advantage to placating all parties and maintaining the status quo on Teer Fradee. Don’t rock the boat. Make sure to bow before the racist cardinal even if you want to stab them in the neck. Dedicate yourself to a milquetoast middle path that keeps a peace but transforms nothing
>You might prevent a tragedy here or there, but so long as the game pushes the player acquiesce to formality and political decency, there’s no room for any transformative action.

The amount of anti-shilling for a AA eurojank game is absurd. Stop trying to turn everything into the blunder of the decade, goddamn.

Does bad mix of bad games make a good game or a bad game?

>Europe was so shitty a bunch of idiots left and once free of eurocentrism founded the greatest longest lasting empire in human history
No need to thank us for all the inventions we made that you use to shitpost about us btw.

Yea Forums got their tortanic once and they haven't let it go since

The AI will block all of your attacks if you spam basics slash in KCD unless you're fighting a trash bandit.

What's weird is that this seems like the kind of game that should be well below Yea Forums shitposting radar, especially with several Switch games coming out this month.

We have daily threads for both of those.

He will, but then he runs out of stamina and dies.

The same person that wrote this said that video game characters are actually "actors" and should be treated lile actual people, and that the video game character "might not want" to do what the player wants him to do

They didn't have borders back then and an insane population count. Plus, the americas were never a nation before the brits came over and conquered it. Technically not immigrants.

I'm going to assume what's going on here is that you're retarded and don't know what actor means in the context of what they said

>takes reviews from gamestarved pc trannies serious

Africa would have went down the same path regardless.

Go ahead and enlighten me then, O great dilator

Doubt it
It would not be the bastion or civilization or real life wakanda, but it would not be a complete shithole either

More like southeast asia
At any rate even if it escaped colonialism , it would not have escaped neo-colonialism

And that's a good thing

Link what you're talking about so we can see it. I want to laugh at you having a kindergarten reading level.

What this user forgets to mention, is that the natives are white celtic-cultured people rather than the usual darker cultures.
But i guess Yea Forums now hates getting a free victim card talking about the oppression of white people.

youtu.be/o6dGnTt_czc

That's a really long winded way to say people dont view themselves as evil. And no shit.

Dragon Age 1

fucking retard

Looks like a decent 7/10 game to me lads, shame it's too pricey to get an impulse buy out of me

Wtf I love Spiders even more now

Less so for pathfinder since the content is still pretty bare.

>the 18th century
Ignoring this awful pasta for a moment, but I thought it was a fantasy game?

>Greedfall
I thought it was Creedfall, what the fuck.

>not archiving it
Hi, Kotaku.

>Buying european
fucking kek, only Japan and America knows how to make good games.

>seething

It is, the tranny who wrote this is both a)stupid enough to think that because it looks similar to the 18th century that it has to deconstruct 18th century morals or be ostracised, and b) a tranny

I was told that Spiders is the kind of dev who improves after each release, and The Technomancer was a step up compared to Mars: War Logs. So the question is: is it less janky compared to their previous release, or did they just reskin Technomancer and shit?

That's the most generic video game description ever.

Le include le me in le screenleshot le faggots.

Ah.
Gross.

She's talking about actors as in actors in an event not as in literal actors playing a part. Her talk is about treating your characters as if they're controllable entities and how the player often goes against how the character would behave. It's essentially just a long winded way of saying that idle animations can be important to give your character personality that the player otherwise wouldn't see because of the nature of video games.
So like I said this is you not understanding how words work and not watching beyond like the first couple seconds where she explains this.

Well fuck, just answered my own question. Youtube makes it looks like a souped up version of Bound By Flame. Like some sort of cross between Bound By Flame and Asscreed 3

>she
Nigga get the fuck outta here

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I know I said you're at a kindergarten reading level but I expected you to be able to read beyond the first word, user.

Based.

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Not him and my point still stands. That's not a "she", it never was. I don't know what the hell to call it, but "she" isn't it

Normal people usually get mad when they look for a vagina and find a fat cock waiting for them.

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Why don't you address the point instead of virtue signaling your /pol/ autism

Can you exploit the natives? And by exploit, I mean rape.

Some sites are rating it 9 while others 7. I'll wait till you autists finish it for your take.

I've played about half an hour and it's started off really well, feels like the first time i've played a decent new RPG in years.

Though I wish I knew how the fuck to walk, your character is always jogging really quickly.

>video games must not have any sort of narrative conflict that reflects realism

no anyway as racist i must say i suprisingly like the natives did not meet single black one yet

>the virgin journalist vs the chad customer

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Seems like a pretty shitty colonization simulator in that case.

What's with all this colonizer stuff? I thought this was just trying to copy Warhammer Fantasy's Empire

Hmmm... reached lv5 and reached to New Serene.

What would be better? Craft could do me wonders because I only use traps as damage dealing supported by firearms.

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I don't give a shit about the politics.
Is the gameplay fun and engaging?
Do you have to craft or but every trap you use and every shot of ammo?
Are the builds interesting?

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>Longest lasting
Still Rome.

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I really like Bound By Flame, will I enjoy this?

the jump in quality from technomancer to this is pretty big

its good shit

>I only use traps as damage dealing supported by firearms.

Exactly what I'm planning to do, except to dip my toe in Magic too. From what I see the game definitely supports (expects?) two things: picking a minor Class, and focusing on 2 or 3 Talents.

So I ditched Crafting (right after Vigor), b/c as impressive it seems there's no enough points for it. Same goes for Intuition (hopefully, Cha will be "enough") and I'll only spend my first point on Lockpicking.

Science would not only allow to craft ammo for guns, but other (alchemical) potions too. Which will synergise well with Accuracy (needed for Guns) and needed anyway to increase my survivability anyway.

So if I were you I'd take your Attributes and Skills into account too. For reference, the game recommends Accuracy & Agility / Science & Lockpicking for Technicians (while Craftsmanship for Warriors.)

I think it's pretty incremental. Same basic flaws - janky combat, weird animations, script reads like it was written in non-English and then translated - but not as bad. Standard OK eurojank.

I was thinking about Craft because the recycle perk you get at lv2 and with the other perk you get in the line of traps (get ingredients using traps or throw potions) to get a healthy supply in traps.

Good to know Science can craft thing that can use and Lockpick for what I saw is a must.

>SJWs are getting mad
The game is pozzed as hell - brown people in positions of authority in early modern not-Europe, more women warriors than men, not-Arabs are the peace and science faction, Western religion bad - but apparently that's not enough.

Reminds me of Vampyr with its ahistorical PC blandness.

In that case, Crafting might be better if you indeed like Traps that much. For me, they're only complementary options after Firearms - hence why I prioritise Science (aside from survivability, as I literally didn't take anything that offers protection / HP).

Keep in mind that equipment can provide you +1 in certain Talents. This is why the 1 point investment in Lockpicking (that can be boosted at least to 2 w/ gear) is reasonable. The fact there's so much synergy going on is a sign of a well-thought system.

Is it good? I'm not expecting great

yes

For the moment yes, but need to know how much ingredients need the traps. They are too much powerful and I fear the costs of making them gonna be huge.

I was watching a reviewer playing it, and it looks serviceable, good but not great, kind of low-budget. Not warranted the praise, but not terrible like say, ME Andromeda.

I'm not sure if it's good yet, but i can tell you it's not shit.

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I wonder what kind of path does a person take to end up with this kind of schism from reality.

>not-Arabs are the peace and science faction
Golden age of Islam, that's history.

I heard positive things about Bound by Flame, is it good? I almost picked it up the other day.

I'm hearing good things about Blasphemous, so probably that in the virtue that it cost less.

lmao

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Its a total fucking myth is what it is.
When they say "advanced mathematics and medicine" what they mean is "hey we figured out what Pythagoras was talking about and realized that bleeding people with leeches is bullshit".
Additionally during that time the caliphates were raping enslaving and raiding every single other nation, particularly the European ones. The Crusades were a response to over 600 fucking years of constant invasions by the ragheads.

No such thing, actually. Just because it was slightly less repressive than today and stole Persian and Roman knowledge does not mean it had a golden age.

cringe

you might like Prey (2006)
has a native american protag.

Ah yes but in WW2 games you're shooting white people so that makes it okay (accord to the media and trannies)

In WW2 games you're shooting nazis
That's what makes it okay

It's a fantasy game; seethe dilate cope etc.

These days, nazi and white people are practically synonymous to the left.

Get off Yea Forums grandpa

Where did this game even come from heard nothing about it till it released luckily I love eurojank

Middle east was in between civilizations. All the trade flow through lands controlled by Islamic empires. That also means knowledge. Many of famous Islamic scholars spoke Greek not because those empires were secular and open to science but because the centers of ancient civilizations they encompassed.
Also game is meant to be set somewhere around 16 century. Europe and more specifically some Italian states were already more advanced technologically than ottoman empire in late 15th century.

The only difference between then and now is we gave them the tech to project power a little bit further. No longer are the tribes raping and pillaging people a couple miles over, but roughly a nation-sized area.

The 'golden age' lasted for a very brief time and consisted mainly of philosophers wanking the Greeks and Romans, copying medicine from the Persians and Indians, and before they could really take any of this shit and do ANYTHING with it, the secular and religious powers-that-be slapped them down and made philosophy and science illegal and killed any free-thinkers they could find. It amounted to fucking nothing intellectually, and the rest of that period was "We have all this gold from conquering, let's spend it on building mosques!" which requires zero intellectual rigor whatsoever.

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B-but! ISLAM

it came from France? I think Spiders are frenchjank

Do the idorts among you prefer kb/mouse or pad?

Islam was the enemy of its people, intellectually. Its tenets are hostile to intellectualism, and their rulers used it as a bludgeon to destroy free-thinkers (which rulers saw a a threat to their open rape-and-pillage party.) This is in direct contrast to the religions that came before it in the religion, which were either generic pagan religions that didn't care, Christianity, or ones like Zoroastrianism which praised intellectual pursuits. There is a heavy divide between Islam and other Abramic religions, where Islam considers trying to understand or explain god's creation to be blasphemy, whereas the other two (in most sects) treat it as a duty, sometimes even a sacred one. We can criticize Medieval Bestiaries all we like, but the intellectual roots that lead to them eventually lead to real science, because the idea was that God put lessons into nature and it was man's duty to research nature and discover it, or else that he made all nature to benefit man and it required research to discover said benefit.

I want to live in the alternate dimension where Yea Forums never became stormfront lite

>literally copy&pasted this from a SJW article
>dullards still fell for you
Well played, user

If you want to live in the universe without politics then you'll find things to be more radically different than you suppose.

No I want to live in the one where you idiots didn't let this place become a boomer propaganda up

shut up tranny

user, if you want the site where everyone you consider a 'boomer' (Which seems to be more 'politics I don't agree with) doesn't post, then you should try ResetEra. You don't need a new universe to go to another website.

Yea Forums has always been counter culture. if you mainstream retards didnt literally worship mutilation and gay babies Yea Forums wouldnt need to be so far right,

>pirating a game
>"effort"

You might be clinically retarded if you think pirating a game takes anything resembling effort.

The most counter culture thing in the world is being a bunch of bland conservative puritans ranting about the blacks makin all the drugs and listenin to the rap musics and all them kids with their colourd hairs and the homosexuas

Why did he lazily photoshop his face?

It's okay. I'm not loving it but I'm gonna finish it and not regret the time spent. I kinda feel like my expectations were raised a bit from underrail so it's probably a bit better in reality than what I feel it is.

>a Spiders game
>with a "Very Positive" score
they finally did it

what game does it feel closest to?

what are the dungeons like?

also are the quests interesting or are they mostly go over there and kill 5 wild animal enemies to retrieve my amulet from one of their stomachs, here's some loot for your troubles

Ignorance of your opponent's arguments worsens your own position. Especially in your insistence that it's the 'kids' doing that and not the 20 and now even 30 year olds.

Prologue and first town so far has been pretty interesting it’s anything but ‘go kill random shit’ so far most quests involve actual quests and fighting is in fact discouraged in most of them as you get negative reputation with some factions.
It’s mostly intrigue and investigating shit

Oh christ oh no oh god the 30 year olds have the colored hair now to oh shit fuck oh god

If only it was just colored hair, my ignorant friend.

>Needed a second empire to survive
Ah yes, the republic lived for... 100 years? Then each dynasty which had their own ruleship and government changed like every 10-50 years.
Meanwhile USA is still stable and strong.

>stable

Yes, unlike your petty kingdoms and wannabe nations, in America the people have a right to protest, even over dumb stuff like black lives matter, or freedom walk.
While in your serfdoms you'd get jailed for life for insulting your nepostic kings and """"elected""" prime ministers from the same family.

>start up the game
>alternate pressing the A and D keys to move left and right
>animation to begin moving takes an eternity
>animation to stop moving also takes an eternity
>character ends up moving forward or backward depending on the arbitrary direction they've chosen to orient while in the middle of the animation to move left or right

I don't understand why developers do this. Movement should be responsive. It's the bare minimum.

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>Native seller
>You only can help him
>You can't behead it or exile it from the city

Why?

Because the powers that be want him to sell his furs and other native goods in the city, since they make tons of money off of scamming him and reselling it to the home country. You can look at somewhere like the US, as hostile to the natives as they could be, just about everywhere was open to them coming into town to sell shit.

How does this roleplaying come into effect in terms of actual gameplay?
I do quests for my selection of factions as in New Vegas, or is it a "YOUR CHOICES MATTER I SWEAR" kind of game?

>Arena
>Bulls in the arena have auto-tracking and can pivot mid run like homing missiles

And here we have Spiders quality

New Serene, not old Serene..

So where the fuck do I find a Naut's outfit?

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just dodge them lmao

And what do you think I do? What part of pivot midrun you don't understand?

Also for who fight with traps, Science made the traps... Craft does nothing, only upgrade equipment (also so fucking good too)

Look for equipment with this icon

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>Developer: Spiders

Not falling for this shit you eight-legged freaks.

Ah, got that one. I was searching for something like that overcoat Vasco is wearing. Cheers.

>Bound by Flame developers
I'm going to say it's shit.

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Why this fucking game has been launched now?
Is good enough to keep me addicted and have comfy combat too, missions are like ME1 and DA:O so is a plus.

Not GOTY but is much better than Technomancer

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>hating on trannies in 2019

wtf is wrong with you people? let people have a choice. it doesnt affect you

And people who hate also have a choice that doesn't affect you. Why are you clamoring for them to change their thoughts and options and insisting a different group doesn't need to change their thoughts and opinions. You're a hypocrite.

If you want people to have freedom then everyone deserves the same freedom. If you want people to be silenced then everybody deserved to be silenced in the same way. No picking and choosing.

Hate speech =/ freedom. I doubt half the people on this board would even say this shit to their faces.

This is a fallacy. There are no different categories of speech for this context because what you can determine to be hate speech is subjective and therefore can be abused to silence people who do not deserve to be silenced. That's wrong. No possibility for this to happen should ever be permitted to exist because otherwise there is no true freedom. You don't understand the importance of the freedom which is why you're so keen on spitting on it. You've never been silenced before. You don't appreciate the freedom you have.

You’re asking for a real opinion from a board notorious for finding the most mundane reasons to hate things.

>fatty doesn't know it's possible to change directions while running
They are also pretty easy to dodge.

Yeah a Bull full ram speed can change directions so easy... of course.

bs

Explain why you think so.

how can you not hate them? every year they become more insane.

You ever been around cows or does all your knowledge come from games? I grew up on a dairy farm.

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One thing I like of the game is the upgrades... they are shown in the actual armors and weapons.

>fatty actually thinks an animal would run so fast it can't turn

How long is the prologue/tutorial? Is two hours enough to determine whether or not to refund?

the prologue is

Arabs are the science faction but they arent presented as the peace faction. Theyre currently at war with half the continent and are torturing POWs by subjecting them to weird experiments, and thats just in the prologue.

Neat. Happy to have a new RPG to play after burning out on Kingmaker.

clever marketing

guys GUYS

IS THE GAME GOOD OR NOT

kingmaker is the only rpg i've liked in the past few years and i think this is pretty good too, far fewer choices due to voiced MC but i think the setting and atmosphere are nice.

it is interesting that they are presented as Arabs rather than turks. In keeping with the theme they should be Ottoman shoe-ins but they are clearly modeled after the Abbasid Caliphate, which is pretty cool. I'm as le edgy right wing nazi as they come, but Islamic Golden Age aesthetics combined with Baroque europe is fucking kino.

hey man... if you wanna play, just do what your heart tells ya.... ;)

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Real talk: what exactly does

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It's Risen Age: Inquisition.

Kingmaker is easily one of my favorite games of the past few years. Reawakened my love of RPGs. Owlcat can't announce their next AP soon enough.

same, was really surprised at how fun it was, i'm hoping the new game by the age of decadence devs will come close

im pretty sure age of decadence was made by one guy

n****r

Aren't they working on Colony Ship for fall 2020?

wouldn't surprise me, it was really short and felt kind of empty but it gave you a lot of options of who to ally with and what to do, if the next game is more fleshed out I think it'll be great.

yeah

Finally, a chance to correct the mistake the soft white colonizers made and break the new world with an iron fist, preventing the downfall of society we have today by extermination of all troublesome elements back then. Buying my copy now

>troublesome element
oy vey!

Then why did it flop/get bad reviews?

I think it was really buggy and poorly optimized on release.

Why I'm alone in the maps while my team is jacking off in the entrance of the map without moving?

So this means can fuck Vasco?

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How much actual roleplaying and dynamic elements are there in the game's setting?
From the looks of it it could be shallow ubishit.

With magic and monsters

It was borderline unplayable on my machine when it launched. The Enhanced Edition release fixed just about everything that plagued me, though. The vast majority of the negative reviews on Steam stem from bugs and people who couldn't adapt to the Pathfinder ruleset.

Alot of running in circles, and more conversions than combat, and the combat is meh at best. Overall its worth playing. IF you plan to do everything, you wont get far fast.

What class are you enjoying, Yea Forums? I like the look of Technical, what with all the vial throwing and trap setting. I'd typically go magic, but shooting magic missile 24/7 doesn't look very fun.

Technical + magic is probably the coolest shit though.
Magical crowd control and gun/trap/poison damage, only use magic missile when you're out of bullets. Full mad scientist.

Bring religion to the savages or kill them all. Can't wait to play it.

Playing as Tech, cool as shit. With one good placed trap you can obliterate a group.
Only remember to get Science asap

magic and rapier, rapier has a really fun moveset

You gonna have a bad time then, the game is shallow in decisions and your "hero" try to be a shining armor character.

>Its another thread fucking derailed by politics
Why the fuck can't Yea Forums ever just fucking discuss a game?

Why can't you? Where's your game post?

so basically this retard wants to change the past but this is a fucking videogame so even if this tranny cant alter the past through gameplay they still need to put this in their "review" for virtue points

what a fucking joke

This game is embroiled in it. You should be expecting it.

they cant survive anywhere else. they need to be in the only country that will not only put up with their bullshit but also encourage it for some fucking reason

I looked at the skill tree and there's only like 8 spells.

I came into this thread to see what the general conscious of it was. The first reply I see is a fucking bait post with 40+ (you)s

Based

>Kingdom Come Deliverance all over again.
Wait so we've yet another RPG of the decade? Shit, each year 1ups the last

you should try gitting gud

Easily the best bait on Yea Forums right now, how the fuck are so many retards replying?

What are the guns in the game?
Rifles, pistols? Not got the game yet but would really like to be something of a Dick Turpin type.

Some people can't recognize when something is copy pasted from a clickbait review.

I'll buy it when it's on sale.

Can we have this thread again but without the first post because I'm actually interested in this game

The absolute most reddit post of 2019. I'm happy you got fired from Buzzfeed.

Even if they do recognise it, the urge to shitpost is too strong.

Lads, where the fuck do you replace the cogwheel with a new one in the Mine Village?

>magic doesn't synergise with melee well because lightning dodge is tied to divine ring
>but it synergises extremely well with guns and technical tree in its entirety since bombs and traps can deal magic damage too
It's like they knew people are going to roll with gun mages.

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Guns are gay, not using them ever.

NEW serene you fucking low IQ native

fuck off children