Kirby Thread

I gave $8 to Microtransagolor. After seeing how even that is only getting me to around rank 10 dx gear, I'm starting to regret doing it in the first place...

I've spent $3.50 and thats all im gonna invest. I figured the game has been entertaining enough so I want to give a little. now its not as grindy anymore too.

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borb

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I'm assuming this is really old, so that's why Nuclear, Baton, Psychic, and Wood overlap with existing abilities, but otherwise they're all really solid from a design standpoint

beating the game without paying a cent

some people are just not patient lol

Considering that would take upwards of 3 years with TKCD, I think it's reasonable that no one would want to try it for SKC.

no, gorb

Is that for all achievements? I'd consider the game done once you have all platinum ranks. Too many of those achievements are literally just "buy shit out of the shop" to be worth going for.

Mace, Gravity, and Sand sound cool. We already sort of have Nuclear (Poison), Psychic (ESP), Wood is probably similar to Leaf, and Baton technically appeared in the anime.

That's for 100%, yeah. It'd probably be several months just to beat the final boss. Playing online does help, though. You can easily level up just by tagging along on higher leveled bosses. Kracko is an especially easy target with Beam Mage because of the charge bonus if the enemy is in the air and Kracko's simple attack patterns.

I dropped $2 and was able to beat the main story up to D-Mind. I had to grind in party quest a bit, but it was a good way to level up quick and work on getting platinum ranks.

any passwords other than the kirby clash thing?

Reminder that you can get 5-10 gem apples from star chests with the codex maxed out

The wiki has a few others.

I did too and I was gonna cave in but I've made it through the story quests as F2P just fine, time will tell if I'll get through the Super Quests but beamchads have made it easy, specially since Lapis DX and SDX were so cheap.

Was expecting to struggle more but at least it was fun managing my resources as supposed to cleaning house in a day

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What's the difference between Super and Deluxe? Is it worth grinding if I did most of the cheavos in 3DS? (besides by this specific gear)

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>Clear within 50 seconds

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Online play and a lot more quests, different story and structure but most of it derived from the original (they manage to shove in Taranza and King D-mind battles despite Parallel Nightmare being the big bad). Variants on the minibosses like Floaty (water Frosty), Electric Dragon, Spark Bonkers, Venom Kracko, etc.

good lord it takes me 13 eons to input the japanese passwords, and I keep getting them wrong.

should I spend apples on every piece of gear as soon as they're available if im not gonna buy into Magalor's merchant trickery? im always stingy when spending these type of currendies

nightmare is so cool bros
i hope hes in the next kirby

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Only buy for one class and only upgrade when you feel like the bosses are getting too hard to beat.

>Playing hammer DPS with Three Mages chain stopping time.

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Did they fix broken ass Mages? I recall it was the best classes and you bought like 2 weapons and could solo the game for free.

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Nope. Still broken.

I didn't expect return to the 3ds hub, is very empty though.

You can do that with any class.

Party quests populate it a bit

I've never been more tempted by a free to play game. $40 is the price of a normal game, and it's all the gem apples you'd need forever. I'm resisting so far, but I'm level 50 and on the verge of cracking.

That's basically the point, hell on the 3DS they capped your purchases after 40$/max tree, not sure if they still do here but there's no reason to pay more after that

Still its a pretty basic game for that price, could get a full Kirby game for that

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It was 1 weapon and 1 armor for the set bonus, the Drawcia paintbrush and hat.
And no the mages are still broken as shit and mandatory for most things, they just had a moderate damage nerf to try and force you to bring at least one non-mage unit. You can still manage with 4 mages in most cases though, only in the super late stage challenge goals will you need to deviate from them

I'll never get tired of this joke but I worry he'll never get a proper role in a main game's story due to over-saturation at this rate, someone summon him outside of dubious canon Or start showing some of the other heroes

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I only played this game in docked but does it run weird for anyone else? Feels like 20fps in the boss battles

welcome to the star allies engine

There's also a fuckton of boss rushes in the endgame, which is a problem for mages since the resistance to time stopping carries over between each boss.

does the quest difficulty matter with what you get out of star chests?

Spoiler for postgame EX final boss of Super Clash Weren't these important to Star Allies plot?

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jobborb will get his chance someday if they ever decide to officially canonize him outside of the knowledge that the Arenas post Superstar may or may not be canon
What would even do though? I can't imagine he'd be very helpful unless they expand upon his personality, it may just end up being the same situation where he gets summoned by the big bad, just during the main story now

You'd think it would, but I haven't noticed that being the case. Level 1 Hornhead seems to give me as much as level 70 Parallel Nightmare.

This game was a huge turd, its basically everything wrong with nukirby all in one package
The series needs to evolve BIG time
It hasn't really changed much at all since Return to Dreamland. Maybe they should try 3d and/or a slightly different artstyle like odyssey did

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Yes basically confirms that GK is one of the 4 heroes who sealed Void

him being refered to aeon hero sure is interesting
>that one mission that requires you to beat him with morpho gear
Hal sure loves their memes.

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so when will i get to spend my mynintendo coins on this game

there have been rumors lately that Hal are doing something new, they have even been hiring people as of late.
that was kinda obvious honestly, guess that makes morpho one of the other heroes that sealed void termina away, that means there's two more ancient heroes we don't know about.

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you can do it now if you want, when buying gem apples in the e-shop the option comes up.

what if and bare with me on this:
>clash quest deluxe had king d-mind as the final
>star allies had void termina as the final
>both are related in lore
>next game gives lore about nightmare by having a being simular to him while being different/more of a terrifying eldrich horror

yes or no?

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I don't think you should hold a F2P title in line with the design philosophies of the mainline games.
Its pretty fine for what it is, and multiplayer elevates it big time in my eyes, but its still a pretty bland package I agree
Also, don't forget that pretty much every era has had a period of stagnation. The Shimumoura games bar 64 all played pretty much the same, as did the GBA-DS era.

I feel like it was already pretty heavily implied that Gorb and Morb were two of the four though

not him but cool, good to know
>use 6 dollar discount with points
>growing the tree changes the music
is there a way to get the original music back or nah, i prefer the base level music

Well we add more onto it, a designation as the Aeon Hero, the ability to harness Light/Dark to power up, the spears just being something these heroes can just summon a ton of (Hyness summons some pins that look close, i wonder if its semi related to them), but just the general world building of him having clout as an ancient hero that was forgotten by the present.

Also I'm still not certain Morpho is one because I'm still unclear on what the deal is, isn't it essentially just a reaper butterfly from hell taking over GK? in which case they can't have both been heroes together, the gear doesn't call him a hero and ties him to paradise and GK kicking the can
>Defensive gear inspired by "the knight of doom." This helmet appeared in response to the screams of the most powerful warrior in the galaxy
>A sword that resembles a butterfly of paradise. Legend says it strikes in a bright flash.

I can buy borb being one of them though, still leaves 2, or 1 if morpho really counts

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How do I prevent low level players from joining quests way higher than their level?
How do I exit a lobby of said players?

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you can't, if they have it unlocked they can join
at best you can just rehost or join other players

you git gud

t. platinum'd and got the speedrun HM on the true final boss with a team that was 30-40 levels lower the quest

here's all we know about the ancients and such
>galatica one of the four heros to seal void termina
>is called aeon hero during that time
>was sealed away by the ancients for being too powerful
>the seal was an extra dimensional road, inside another dimension
>caused some time fuckery by doing this
>despite being destroyed, he can be summoned over and over by ancient tech
>magolor's ship, the lor starcutter is such an object much like nova and star dream and is partially sentient
>landia was guarding the master crown, which void termina has links to
>hyness was banished from ancients and stricken from the records and the illusive book of legend
>morpho knight was somehow sealed into the form of a butterfly which seemly follows Kirby around, capable of using galatica knight as a host of power
>ancient tech is extremely volatile and dangerous, capable of bending time and space and tearing holes in the fabric of reality and ripping souls out of the body (as seen in robobot, rtdl and KSSU)
>sphere doomers seem to consume cosmic gears which are ancient tech
>void is reborn in multiple worlds, parts of void can splinter off itself and become their own entity's (gooey and darkmatter)
>astral birth is the true void, when void is defeated with positive energy it will be reincarnated as "a friend"

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Mace, Axe, Sand

I mean on top of the remake already giving you way more apples, I've been managing my gem spending so I havent even felt the need for more apples. I've spent enough time on this game that I wouldn't mind buying the apples if it gets to that though. I'm pretty far into the game though so I think I can manage

>when you finally sdx upgrade

Holy shit all this power. I will use it fro the good of the people in low level quests.

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So this is even more P2W? I'll pass

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>sdx upgrade
what does this mean?

Spending that little is a bad idea. They clearly want you to spend the $40 if removing the grind is your goal. It's all or nothing. The game isn't worth it in my opinion if you don't actually grind for the gear. Thats like paying for equipment in monster Hunter instead of working for it. What the hell is the point?

I assume it stands for super DX. It's another upgrade after DX.

Who calculated that? I seriously doubt that. I've been burning through missions even without spending a cent

Is the 3ds one also had all the micro transactions, fuck this, it belongs on a phone.
Yeah, i've played star allies demo, is it really 20 fps? Looks nice but plays like shit. And i'm a kirby fan and not only haven't played the wii u canvas one and star allies.

is the DPS higher if you spam the beam whip or max charged time beam?

Not really when mages are still broken everywhere else and you can get by with the free apples, more quests and missions means a fuckton of freebies

I'm level 18 and so far it's been easy not to spend any real money, but i'm starting to worry about how much equipment is going to cost later on

I dunno, metaknight doesn't seem nearly as powerful as those two are, sure he's strong but he isn't capable of planetary destruction or tearing rips though the fabric of time and space with his sword.

he does have some connection to the heroes for sure though

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You mean a random number between 5 and 10? What's the point in upgrading then if you get basically the same thing with one upgrade and it's RNG?

It means mages are balanced. Just choose your favorite class without worrying about apples. The only real wall I've noticed is Hammer vs Aeon Hero, but I don't main Hammer so I don't know if there's something I'm missing there.

Honestly I didn't see him coming. It was a nice surprise since his "battle" in all stars got denied. I was expecting his light form to be crazier though like powered up king d mind but oh well It was still a good challenge.

timestop is slower but it stops the clock while jump dash attack beam deals more dps overall.

Midair dash attacks are highest dps. Though if I remember right from the 3DS version, level 2 charge shots eventually overtake dash attacks once your charge speed is maxed.

you can actually max your tree on the bargains too if you want. if theyre like the 3ds one they only last for the first couple of months game comes out.

SA is 30 fps but dips on some of the more clusterfucky bosses with all characters (obvious one being three mage sisters), but its perfectly playable
Its a real shame they ditched 60 for the sake of graphics, when its probably the best iteration of of the modern gameplay due to the sheer variety of abilities/dream friends and play-ability with the new knockback
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>Sword Dash Attack has extensive I-Frames and can propel you over half the screen
>Doctor's potions have extremely long I-Frames that last nearly the entire animation
>Hammer's dash Attacks is similar to Sword's but the length is much smaller
Does Mage have any I-Frames?

Galacta Knight is Summoned and as usual attacks the big bad, but this time the big bad knows of this tactic in advance due to all the past times galactas done it to others (dont ask how the bad person of game would know hed do this when all those instances are "Fan Considered Canon, Dev Considered Non Canon" gray area shit to most people), If theyre a dark matter entity or powerful mage they force their control over galacta, if not they probably restrain him somehow to siphon power from him and part of the boss fight has you break him free so he can retaliate for it, still fights you after or later due to their uncontrollable power stuff or something though.

Is Doctor Healmore the best DPS? The i-frames and damage from your science kit is crazy, I've been using the role to farm the rare crystal rewards for beating certain bosses under 50 or so seconds.

>ancient hero fanboy pretending to be a knight
>borb was just don quixote all along

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It's just very weird to play a paltformer especially a kirby one with 30 fps with drops, considering how good it looks too. I've been hearing complaints about game beeing boring and uninspired, which i kinda agree with cause the gimmick/concept isn't new. if i liked triple deluxe and squeak squad, will i like this as well, you think?

I think alot of my problems with the game in general is the artstyle has barely changed since Return to dreamland
Most kirby games before The mirror had their own distinct art style, but now it feels like the same game over and over (it felt like this with the gba and ds but RTDL amplified it) again with the same sub-par combat system
Im glad HAL has been saying the next mainline kirby game will be "a new era" so I hope they innovate the series and improve the gameplay.
I like this series and I don't want too see it fall or turn into NSMB

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Not any in particular Ive notices but I have also noticed if they fire a beam while enemy is attacking or touching them they dont tend to to respond to the damage till after the beams fired.
Maybe hes a descendant of their line in some way. Though he does have the ability to rip into something if Galaxia Darkness in Smash and Robobot are to go by.

Time Stop gives I-Frames to the entire party.
Otherwise no since it doesn't have the grab attack.

he also enjoys sweets like Kirby in secret, dudes a total fanboy.
that seems most likely, he is capable of destruction just not "rip the universe asunder" destruction, plus he seems decent with technology (even if the halberd blows up in every appearance it makes)

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Probably still enjoy it honestly, it was a mixed bag on release and there was a lot of hype and disappointment, expectations blown out of proportions and subsequently so were the shortcomings. Its was on par content wise to the 3DS games but with more clear patchwork and re-use, but with the free post-game DLC (short but legitimately some of the best and most challenging levels of the modern games) and a discount its worth it I'd say.

I mean, Squeak Squad and TD are considered somewhat bland in comparison to their contemporaries (Amazing Mirror and Planet Robobot) and I'd say SA is far more repayable, as there's nothing on the level of Hypernova and a metric ton of movesets to play around with, even if its just Ultimeate Choice and Guest Star over and over. The gimmick actually matters here as its always present in gameplay as supposed to shitty sections every other level, and adds to the fun of playing around with abilities. The levels don't stand out like Robobot's impeccable theming and blend together like churn out of a level editor, but they cut down on a lot of the fat that the 3DS games had with all the set pieces and plane switches in favor of just pure levels.

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He was pretty strong back in Super Star/Return to Dream Land, though. He reacts and reflects Magolor attacks in a cutscene. He's also unbeatable during the escaping sequence of Revenge of Meta Knight. Also, if cutscenes and Samurai Kirby are anything to go by, he's really fucking fast too, capable of crossing light years in seconds. Yeah, he might not be as strong as Galacta Knight, but he's a fucking beast too.

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I think everyone's underestimating him because we see him often, when both him and Kirby are a match to Galacta Knight, our player character is literally infinite power so the bar is pretty high and most borbs are on it.
If Aeon Dolt can get crystalled and dragged around spacetime against his will every other week we can forgive MK for getting possessed a couple of times.

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true, he is still a beast but he certainly doesn't hold a candle to them.

King dedede is also actually really fucking strong even without power ups, it's any wonder why people want to use him for his power, he's very corruptible due to his greed and ego.

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>3DS games
Can't be better than robobot, it's my favourite kirby game, along with nes one, superstar, kirby 64, kirby dreamland 3 (i like too much of those, lol, canvas curse, amazing mirror, epic yarn)

halberd only jobs because he regularly sics it on planet busters like kirby and star dream
even then it takes kirby a good amount of time to destroy it and it goes toe to toe with star dream for a long time, even if it's enhanced by the robobot armor

if you find a rare fragment do you keep it even if you lose? or do you have to win?

dedede generally gets mind controlled/possessed rather than corrupted, and when he does, it's usually not something that targets him exclusively

It's a nod to Super Star's jp name, Kirby Super Deluxe.
It's also why Triple Deluxe is called Triple Deluxe.

I was more referring to the amount of it content, not necessarily the quality of it. As an all around game Robobot is still one of my favorites and better than SA, and I'll still defend Triple Deluxe as its a lot closer to Robobot than its critics would like to admit.

SA is akin DMC4:SE for me, tons of mechanics, subpar levels. DMC3 is the ultimate package, but I wasted more hours on 4's Bloody Palace and boring hallways. I could go back to Robobot's true arena or levels I already know, but there's still half the roster of SA's dream friends for me to try Ultimate Choice and Guest Star with. From a speedrunning or messing around with abilities perspective there's just so much more. But that shit isn't ever going to be the end all, and I'd sooner a better overall game, any day.

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Beam dash attack is invincible but it keeps you in place.

I thought star dream was created by Haltmann. Also your post seems to imply that morpho took over galacta forcefully when from I could tell galacta willingly lent his power to morpho. It's even emphasized by the animation. Morpho has the same heart animation around him that star friends do when they want you to power their weapons up with an element.

It even makes sense from a lore perspective seeing as morpho's description says he's essentially a grim reaper brought into existence by galacta. It's vague but after reading the English and Japanese descriptions, I assume this means morpho has never been able to take galactas soul to the afterlife because he's been constantly stuck between time for eons because of the ancients sealing him. So morpho finally decides to fuse with galacta to bring an end to the cycle of constantly being summoned and then resealed. I think that's also why there's so much emphasis on morpho's death animation because it's supposed to symbolize galacta finally being laid to rest with morpho's help. It's probably also why the devs are hard at work on the new big kirby game. This is theoretically the beginning of a post galacta universe. This last paragraph was just my thoughts but as for the fusion thing. I'm 100% sure galacta willingly gave up his power

Haltmann found and rebuilt Star Dream, he talks of reactivating it in the Soul OS description and Kumazaki says here he had at least had to find the bluepritns and technology. He might've only found the core but his story works on it being ancient technology he didn't quite understand, broken and full of errors

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Star dream was only fixed by Haltmann, he made the helmet to interface with a broken machine that he found (and the outer shell) that's why the security bots look like the ones from egg engines from rtdl because it was stored in star dream's memory bank from the ancients.

Likely also why he knew of Galacta Knight
>Let us bring back a legendary swordsman from a forgotten time

It's been forever since I played robobot. Must've forgotten that part. I gotta replay it

Do you have a higher quality version of this? I can't quite read it

Should be a good res but here
kirbydevpostarchive.tumblr.com/tagged/robobo-en/chrono
wiki didn't transcribe but has images
kirby.fandom.com/wiki/Kirby_Wiki:Miiverse_Archive

you being a phoneposter is showing

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>clear all the Super Quests avaiable
>Team Kaiju
>Team Elementrio
>Pyribbit EX
And here I thought I was getting the final gauntlet, god, they're really milking this

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You have a long way to go. Especially if you haven't been saving your apples.

I'm laying in bed. I don't wanna sit at my desktop when it's 2:30, user.

I'm doing fine for myself, I just didn't realize how many of these there would be considering the credits rolled, I knew we'd reprise Landia/Nightmare/Susie/Taranza before Aeon but I expected it sooner

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At this point, you could compile a book with all the kirby lore. Has anyone tried to? I'd buy the fuck out of an official lore book from HAL

Finally got Chuchu SDX whatever max. So do I really need to get the rarity 14 or 15 sdx stuff for the end game content? I just love that little blob hat and heart glasses.

No. SDX gear should be enough to beat the end game bosses.

Legend has it there's a master lore book somewhere at HAL, a worn out school notebook with the words "Shinya-kun's Kirby fanfics" on the cover, doodled all over with bleeding eyes and edgy borbs

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>boot game
>30 fps
excuse me but how the fuck? I’m not saying it’s a dealbreaker, but HOW THE FUCK?

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>Kirby version of the doom bible
Yes please

Hal was really obsessed with high quality lighting and shaders

Game was just ported over to the SA version of the engine and I guess they still didn't care to optimize it or remove the cap, it shouldn't be anywhere near demanding, I don't think its using all of SA's lighting and we are confined to single environments and 5 characters max including the enemy.
I really hope they do better next major game, Kirby has always been good about hitting 60fps and it'd be a shame to lose that to the jump to HD which is never a good excuse, maybe having a shitty spinoff run better than the main game was a bad look

Don't worry user. My aunt works at HAL. She confirmed the next kirby game is gonna run at 100 fps

Thank you kind stranger. I'm struggling for those platinum medals

Very briefly on the charge beam. It's enough to survive an enemy charging into the wall, assuming they're the kind that bounce off of it on contact.

Maybe they thought it'd be weird if Star Allies was 30 and Clash was 60.

All franchises have a universe bible so they can have an easier time remaining consistent and prevent inconsistencies with lore established earlier, but the public rarely ever gets to see these. Kirby bible would be amazing.

arise

As main stays of the series or for this game in particular?
My favorites are Robot, Psychic and Mace.

Mace Ax and cloud seem fun

pretty sure you have to win

what would parallel galacta knight be like?